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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz, coming to you here

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Speaker 1: from our studios at Lanmdbellfield. As training camp continues to

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Speaker 1: roll along, West and I have reached the point in

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Speaker 1: training camp where I do not know what day of

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Speaker 1: the week it is anymore.

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Speaker 2: I said to my buddy this morning, Happy Friday. I

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Speaker 2: was like, my buddy, Scott, it's his first week back

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Speaker 2: at the press. Because that I'm like, hey, you made

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Speaker 2: it through, man, Happy Friday's like it's Thursday. Like, oh crap,

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Speaker 2: yeah I know.

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Speaker 1: And I sit here and think, yeah, the Packers first

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Speaker 1: preseason game is Saturday, Well what day is that supposed

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Speaker 1: to be? Like, I can't, I can't figure it out anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I'm having a hard time actually keeping track of

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Speaker 1: which practices have now occurred since we recorded our last show.

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Speaker 1: But I'll do the best I can here. One thing

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Speaker 1: that I know did happen since our last show is

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Speaker 1: that we heard from wide receiver Christian Watson in the

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Speaker 1: locker room. Now we've seen Christian Watson out on the

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Speaker 1: practice field he's his portions of his rehab have been

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Speaker 1: somewhat public. I guess you might say he's been out

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Speaker 1: there in front of the fans, running sprints, doing some cuts,

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Speaker 1: doing the workout things that the athletic trainers are putting

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Speaker 1: him through in this rehab process from his ACL. But

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Speaker 1: he did speak with reporters. You were in the group

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Speaker 1: that talked with him after practice the other day. And

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Speaker 1: this is a young man. He's gone through it a

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Speaker 1: lot already with regard to injuries. This is another level

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Speaker 1: of an injury recovery. But everything that I gathered is

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Speaker 1: that his attitude is as positive and upbeat as one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been that way since day one. They

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Speaker 2: were talking. You know, even after the season he has

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Speaker 2: such a devastating injury where you trying to play in

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Speaker 2: make a run. Here people forget he was already dealing with.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was that injury to his left knee.

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Speaker 2: Then he goes out there and suffers the torn right ACL.

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Speaker 2: First time he's gone through this injury, and there could

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Speaker 2: have been a big woe is me mindset, especially entering

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Speaker 2: that contract season, a pivotal contract season for him, and

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Speaker 2: he didn't allow those thoughts to seep into his brain.

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Speaker 2: He continued to push forward and immediately worked with the

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Speaker 2: to go about the rehab. He actually connected with Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 2: he should be doing. He goes down to Florida and

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Speaker 2: Jaden Reid we're talking with him in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: He even mentioned too, he's like because of his training,

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Speaker 2: he ended up crossing pass with Christian pretty early on,

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Speaker 2: and just his enthusiasm and positive outlook on everything, not

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Speaker 2: person that we know Christian to be, but his ability

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Speaker 2: to kind of compartmentalize everything that happened in that Bears

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Speaker 2: in the story. I think that might be partially a

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Speaker 2: reason why he's in the position he's in right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's putting a timeline on it. He's still

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Speaker 2: on the pup list, still could be a candidate to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, sidelined for the first four games of the

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Speaker 2: that being said, I mean, Christian Watson looks terrific in

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Speaker 2: I've been more in trance just watching him go forty

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Speaker 1: And you do have a story up on packers dot

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Speaker 1: the details here. One thing he certainly wanted to make

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Speaker 1: because he still is claiming to be the fastest in

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Speaker 2: About probably any race, to be honest with you, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he averaged twenty yards of catch last season in an

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Speaker 2: you heard, you know, Matthew Golden talk about and some

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Speaker 2: I think when when the green clearance finally comes for him, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think a forty yard dash between Christian Watson and

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Speaker 1: Matthew Golden would be like must see television, right, Like

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Speaker 1: that would be that would really be something. Assuming that

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Speaker 1: does open up, in essence, an extra roster spot for

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Speaker 1: Watson does come back, it's going to be like this

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Speaker 1: trading deadline acquisition for the Packers that you know you're

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Speaker 1: everyone will be excited for that. Elsewhere on the injury front,

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Speaker 1: we have seen him slowly work his way back and

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Speaker 1: he is now in the defense in the eleven on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just this overall speed of it at that

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Speaker 2: And now this whole offseason surgery was an extension of

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Speaker 2: kind of like the Nate Hobbs thing, which I'm sure

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Speaker 2: no doubts whether or not he'll be available again. They've

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Speaker 2: we're seeing him probably fifty percent in the team periods.

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Speaker 2: Now you obviously finish the game situation stuff on Thursday

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Nate Hobbs. He's going to be out

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to have any doubts that he'll be

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Speaker 1: with Hobbs being out. But then other guys at cornerback

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Speaker 1: lo and behold a familiar faces back in Corey Ballantine.

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Speaker 1: Now we have to get into the whole Valentine Ballantine

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Speaker 1: I knew you would like that. But Corey Ballantine, tyme, yeah,

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Speaker 1: on the depth chart here in Green Bay, he is

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Speaker 1: A lot of talent, but a lot of unproven guys.

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Speaker 1: So when Corey Ballentine is out there and available, and

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Speaker 1: he knows the system and he's been here and he's

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Speaker 1: been a big part of special teams and everything in

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Speaker 1: the past, it just made all the sense in the

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Speaker 1: only that, he's very happy to be back and he's

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Speaker 1: excited to take another shot at making this roster.

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Speaker 2: And not enough kids talked about The Packers lost four

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Speaker 2: cornerbacks in free agency, well three, and then they cut

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Speaker 2: Gay Air right so they've had a pretty big shift

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Speaker 2: in the cornerback room here. The Balantine thing is just

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Speaker 2: funny to me, because it's almost kind of like the

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Speaker 2: Batman and Joker thing. They're just the Packers and Corey

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Speaker 2: are just destined for each other. All roads eventually lead

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Speaker 2: back to them being together. I don't know the situation

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Speaker 2: the last few days, though, from what I gathered from

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Speaker 2: the Beat reports down there, it sounded like it's just

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Speaker 1: Night at lambeau Field will be the pre he sees

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Speaker 1: eleven on eleven yet. So the fact that I mean, now,

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Speaker 1: there's still time before Saturday, but I don't know at

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Speaker 1: this point if they would put Rashid Walker into a

435
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Speaker 1: preseason game. So if Jordan Morgan is the starting left

436
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Speaker 1: tackle on Saturday night and gets his share of the

437
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Speaker 1: reps there, that will definitely be worth watching because you

438
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Speaker 1: have to remember, even though this guy was a full

439
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Speaker 1: time left tackle in college, multiple year starter and all

440
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Speaker 1: that at Arizona. He did not really play tackle as

441
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Speaker 1: a rookie when he came in last year. He was

442
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Speaker 1: put at right guard to compete with Sean Ryan, and

443
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: he was in a rotation with Ryan getting game action

444
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Speaker 1: at right guard until his shoulder injury caused enough trouble

445
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Speaker 1: that they decided, you know, needed an operation and then

446
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Speaker 1: and shut him down for his rookie year. So he

447
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Speaker 1: hasn't played left tackle. He hasn't played offensive tackle in

448
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Speaker 1: a game in the NFL yet since arriving as a

449
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Speaker 1: first strong pick. So those are the two I guess

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Speaker 1: I would say the two guys that I will be

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Speaker 1: having my eyes on more than any others.

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Speaker 2: Excellent choices, especially when you're looking at the twenty twenty

453
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Speaker 2: four draft class, because there's still so much we've yet

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Speaker 2: to learn about that group as a whole. I will

455
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Speaker 2: mention another name from it, though, that I'm excited to

456
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Speaker 2: watch is Tyron Hopper, because Hopper is a guy third

457
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Speaker 2: round pick last year. I've been a big fan of

458
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Speaker 2: him since the beginning. He's a tackling machine. If you've

459
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Speaker 2: been watching him in these practices, he's been kind of

460
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Speaker 2: that number two MIC linebacker throughout camp. I think he's

461
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Speaker 2: going to play a lot in these games. I would imagine,

462
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Speaker 2: you know, again, we'll see whether not Qua goes. I

463
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Speaker 2: would imagine then it's probably Isaiah McDuffie's gonna be wearing

464
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Speaker 2: the communication headset. But after that, I would imagine you're

465
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Speaker 2: going to see a lot of Hopper in these games.

466
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Speaker 2: And he's the type of dude. If you remember last

467
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Speaker 2: year in Denver, he basically didn't practice a whole lot.

468
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Speaker 2: He was kind of getting his feet underneath him, and

469
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Speaker 2: then he has eleven tackles. That was like the one

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Speaker 2: highlight of that game against the Broncos was just all

471
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Speaker 2: all over the place. He was Packers. I was talking

472
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Speaker 2: about all this depth they have inside linebacker encapsulates that

473
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Speaker 2: and and Hopper is a guy too that I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hopper is a great one to point out. We

476
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Speaker 1: saw him have a really, really good preseason game last

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Speaker 1: year as a rookie, and it's funny when I watch him,

478
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Speaker 1: my mind always goes back to what I like to say,

479
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Speaker 1: is an old friend of mine who used to work here,

480
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Speaker 1: which was before you arrived. And of course I'm talking

481
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Speaker 1: about Vic Ketchman. He always used to talk about linebackers

482
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Speaker 1: as one of two types. They're either chasers or their thumpers.

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Speaker 1: Tyron Hoppers a thumper.

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Speaker 2: Thumper.

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Speaker 1: He is a thumper and and that's that makes him

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Speaker 1: worth watching at any time he's on the pH Oh.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, when we did the live tackling drills, just

488
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Speaker 2: seeing him attack guys. Yeah, you know, I mean, this

489
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Speaker 2: is a guy that is when when that the red

490
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Speaker 2: is in his eyes when he sees the ballcarrier, for sure,

491
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Speaker 2: And yeah, he definitely sets a tone.

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Speaker 1: All right, One last thing, do you want to get

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Speaker 1: back into this whole Hall of Fames?

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Speaker 2: We can.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna lay it out here as quickly

496
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Speaker 1: as it can, please do so. Okay, you have two

497
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Speaker 1: different ways, essentially to get into the Hall of Fame.

498
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Speaker 1: There's the modern era voting process, which are the players

499
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Speaker 1: who have been retired for five years but retired for

500
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Speaker 1: less than twenty five years who there's an entire voting

501
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Speaker 1: process that it whittles down to finalists and then they

502
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Speaker 1: get and then the finalists get their cases presented, and

503
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Speaker 1: then everybody on the Hall of Fame Selection Committee gives

504
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Speaker 1: an up or down vote, and if they get eighty

505
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Speaker 1: percent of the vote, they get in. Other ways, there's

506
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Speaker 1: the Senior Committee, which is guys who have been retired

507
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Speaker 1: for longer than twenty five years whose cases are being revisited.

508
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Speaker 1: You also have a coach category and contributor category. Now

509
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Speaker 1: those have been combined in the past coach and contributor

510
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Speaker 1: that now they've become separate categories. But what used to

511
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Speaker 1: happen is the Senior Committee nominees, the coach nominees and

512
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Speaker 1: the contributor nominees who made it all the way to

513
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Speaker 1: the finalist stage, they would simply after they go through

514
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Speaker 1: this whole process and you get to the finalist stage,

515
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Speaker 1: they would then have their cases presented in front of

516
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Speaker 1: the committee for an upper down vote, and if they

517
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Speaker 1: got eighty percent, they got in. If they didn't, they didn't.

518
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Speaker 1: But most of the time, because the quality, I guess,

519
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: the selections are so narrow, it narrows down so quickly,

520
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Speaker 1: most of the time somebody who made it all the

521
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Speaker 1: way to the finalist stage as a coach, as a contributor,

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Speaker 1: or as a senior finalist would get in. What they

523
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Speaker 1: did this year is they put forward three senior finalists,

524
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Speaker 1: one coach, one contributor. The one coach was Mike Holmgren.

525
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Speaker 1: One of the three senior finalists was Sterling Sharp obviously,

526
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Speaker 1: but what they decided to do instead of having all

527
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Speaker 1: of their cases presented individually for an upper down vote

528
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Speaker 1: in front of the committee, is they said, Okay, here

529
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Speaker 1: are these five guys coach, contributor and senior finalists, and

530
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Speaker 1: the committee can only vote for three of the five,

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Speaker 1: and then, based on voting for three out of the five,

532
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Speaker 1: if any individual still had to get eighty beyond eighty

533
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Speaker 1: percent of the ballots in order to get in, extremely

534
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Speaker 1: difficult threshold, much much harder than it was in the

535
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Speaker 1: past for the folks in these categories. Sterling Sharp was

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Speaker 1: the only one of the survival of the five to

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Speaker 1: survive that voting stringency, I guess, I would say, And

538
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Speaker 1: so out of those five the coach, contributor and three

539
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Speaker 1: senior finals, Sterling Sharp was the only one to get

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Speaker 1: in this year because of the new voting process. Extremely

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Speaker 1: disappointing for Mike Holmgren. I think extremely unfair to those

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Speaker 1: who are now in those categories and now facing a

543
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Speaker 1: completely different voting process in terms of who gets in

544
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Speaker 1: it and who doesn't. But with that explanation as the

545
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Speaker 1: entire background, I'll hand it back off to you.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Ribbon Committee put forward their semi finals, their

547
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Speaker 2: nine semi finals for head coach, can you know candidate

548
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Speaker 2: for the Fame last October. We just did the actual enshrinement.

549
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: So it shows you how long this process goes to

550
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: select Mike Holmgrin for that to actually have all these

551
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Speaker 2: people push him forward for this honor. Again, just one,

552
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: not three, just one coach. I thought it was a

553
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Speaker 2: slap in the face of the Blue Ribbon Committee, to

554
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, I thought it was a slap

555
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: in the face to everybody who's had to watch the

556
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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame continue to, in a lack

557
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: of a better terms, Jerry mander, the way that they're

558
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Speaker 2: doing this voting.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good word too. Actually, the way this

560
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: is going now every.

561
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Speaker 2: Year it changes. And again I've raised this several times.

562
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Speaker 2: I have a huge problem with how they went about

563
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Speaker 2: the centennial slate. I felt like they use it as

564
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to shoehorn in a lot of people from

565
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Speaker 2: the more modern era, when the initial reason behind it

566
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Speaker 2: was the pre Hall of Fame era, right.

567
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Speaker 1: And I actually and I actually looked that up. There

568
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Speaker 1: were it was a group of ten senior inductees as

569
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Speaker 1: part of the Centennial class in twenty twenty, and out

570
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Speaker 1: of those ten, only four of them had completed their

571
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Speaker 1: careers in the pre Super Bowl era. That's not what

572
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Speaker 1: that was supposed to be about. And I mean, hats

573
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: off to Bobby Dylan, Green Bay Packer. He got it.

574
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Speaker 1: He got in that way, but he was one of

575
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Speaker 1: the only four. When the thought was that that centennial

576
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Speaker 1: class was supposed to really take a closer look at

577
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Speaker 1: the guys from you know, the first fifty years of

578
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Speaker 1: the NFL before you got into the Super Bowl era.

579
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Speaker 1: But that didn't happen. So you have the vern Llewellens

580
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: of the world and whatnot are still out there and

581
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Speaker 1: probably never going to get in.

582
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Speaker 2: Now here's the point I was going to make. It

583
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Speaker 2: was an up or down vote the twenty centennial class.

584
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Speaker 2: Either they all got in or nobody got in. We

585
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Speaker 2: did that for the centennial slate. Why aren't you doing

586
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Speaker 2: that for the contributed coach? Yeah, when we've already been

587
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: to this point already, what do the contributors and coaches

588
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: if they've gotten to this point. If if they've gone

589
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: through all these different hurdles and obstacles, what's the rationale

590
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: then for looping them in with the modern era? What's

591
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: the rationale for trying to hold them out when they've

592
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: already pushed through? And also keep in mind, it took

593
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: forever to have contributors coaches, they were Prior to that,

594
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: it was all one big pile. Yeah, so now if

595
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: we're trying to catch up, if we're trying to right

596
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: some wrongs here, why are we doing it like this?

597
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree, it is what it is, and I

598
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: think it's and what I think, And I laid this

599
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: out in a story that I posted earlier this week,

600
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: and looking at the Bears have thirty two Hall of Famers,

601
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: the Packers have twenty nine. The franchises with the two

602
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: most and you know, how are the Packers potentially going

603
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: to catch up at some point? I you know what's

604
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: really unfortunate for Mike Holmgren is that I don't think

605
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: his chances are very good of getting pushed forward again

606
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: to get another shot at this, because very soon Bill

607
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: Belichick is going to be in the mix for coach.

608
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Speaker 1: And of course if you're only going to put forward

609
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Speaker 1: one coach, and Bill Belichick is eligible, how can he

610
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: not be? The guys?

611
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Speaker 2: Can they change that role now too? So that's only

612
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: one year, Okay, it's not five years or four years anymore.

613
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Speaker 2: Whatever it is for coach, Bill Belichick can go in

614
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, I believe next year.

615
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Speaker 1: So he's so he's going to be He's going to

616
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Speaker 1: be in the mix very soon. And then you have

617
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Speaker 1: a couple of two time Super Bowl winning coaches. I

618
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Speaker 1: don't want to get into their you know, the their

619
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: candidacies at the moment, but just the fact that they're

620
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Speaker 1: a pair of two time Super Bowl winning coaches and

621
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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan and Tom Coughlin who are also waiting, and

622
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Speaker 1: Holmgren was put forward in front of them this year.

623
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Speaker 1: But with Holmgren not getting in, you can see that

624
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Speaker 1: committee is going to potentially go another direction and see

625
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: if they can get somebody else in. It's it's it's

626
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Speaker 1: extremely unfortunate for Holmgren. I think, I mean, I think

627
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Speaker 1: a guy who takes two different franchises to Super Bowls,

628
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Speaker 1: whether or not he wins those super Bowls. He did

629
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Speaker 1: win one, but and even as We've talked about Bill

630
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Cowers in the Hall of Fame as a coach. You

631
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: look at the credentials. If Bill Cowers in the Hall

632
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: of Fame, Mike Holmgren should be in the Hall of Fame.

633
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Speaker 1: And to Bill Cower's credit, he has gone on the

634
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: record saying, if I am in the Hall of Fame,

635
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren should be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

636
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: and I just I think it's extremely unfortunate. But I

637
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: know we're running out of time. We got a press

638
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: conference to get to.

639
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: I got to close on this. A lot of the

640
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: AP vote, a lot of the Hall of Fame voters also,

641
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: some of whom are involved at the AP process. Kevin

642
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Stefanski has been twice put forward as the NFL Coach

643
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: of the Year during his tenure because of the ineptitude,

644
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: for a lack of a better term, of the Browns

645
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: over the last you know, since they were brought back

646
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: in the league. The amount of disrespect that and this

647
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: this is my big issue with the Leroy Butler Canna

648
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: to see a number of years ago, the mount of

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Speaker 2: boggling because they were the Cleveland Browns at that time.

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Speaker 2: They'd gone twenty nine years between championships, however, many years

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Speaker 2: between true play off appearances. Mike Holmgren was the face

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Speaker 2: at the fact that it's been so hard to get

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Speaker 2: them in. There has just been If the Browns would

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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl this year, they might build as

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Speaker 2: a statue of Kevin Stefanski in these I mean, like

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Speaker 2: it just it's wild to me the way that this

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Speaker 2: what it is. I if I understand this right, team

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Speaker 2: media personnel now are eligible to be among the Hall

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Speaker 2: now down the road. Not that they'd have me, but

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Speaker 2: I'd gladly throw my hat into the ring.

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Speaker 1: I'll put in a good word for you.

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Speaker 2: With that.

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Speaker 1: We do have to call it a wrap on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow continue to

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