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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's Friday.

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Speaker 2: Oh you Western New Yorkers who are buried under the snow.

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Speaker 2: We hope you are safe and sound where you sit

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Speaker 2: today roads are considerably better and hats off to the

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Speaker 2: road clearing crews do that work through all hours of

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Speaker 2: the night and the wee hours of the morning. Bravo

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Speaker 2: to you, because there was a lot of snow to

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Speaker 2: move down here in the southtowns. Some people were confused yesterday, Steve,

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Speaker 2: because once we were stuck at home, you and I

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Speaker 2: our show cannot air on MSG on television. We're strictly

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Speaker 2: reduced to radio only. And I saw a tweet yesterday

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Speaker 2: that was directed at us that said, and at the

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Speaker 2: radio studios, they're an Amherst, they're imy snow there, what's

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Speaker 2: your problem? We do our show from one Bill's Drive

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Speaker 2: in our own studio here. We don't go to Amherst

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Speaker 2: to do our show. So we did it from home.

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Speaker 2: Step in his humble abode at the Tasker compound, and

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Speaker 2: you know where he lives, and me in my location,

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Speaker 2: and you make it work.

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Speaker 1: And we did that yesterday. As you see, snow.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of it has to be cleared out

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Speaker 2: of the stadium. Good thing we don't have a home

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Speaker 2: game this week, huh. People will be working around the

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Speaker 2: clock around here. Andy Major and his crew instead. They've

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Speaker 2: got about ten days to take care of this right

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Speaker 2: before the Bills host the Patriots next week.

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Speaker 1: So that's the good news.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully everybody stayed safe out there and didn't do

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Speaker 2: anything silly because it's just flat out not worth it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: And also, and you're right, kudos to all the road

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Speaker 4: crews and the plow guys. And you know, it's most

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Speaker 4: people don't get who don't live here that it. You know,

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Speaker 4: the plow industry is like it's a cottage industry up here.

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Speaker 4: You've got private guys who go out and they you know,

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Speaker 4: they supplement their income by running running around and the

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Speaker 4: snow like this, well it sounds like it's a bonanza.

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Speaker 4: They can't keep up almost.

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Speaker 2: Right, because you can't let a pile too high, right,

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Speaker 2: and they can't on a pickup truck, ain't moving anything.

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Speaker 4: They get enough clients if they can, they get enough

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Speaker 4: clients so they can make a lap during a snowstorm. Well,

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Speaker 4: if it's one of these snowstorms, they don't have enough

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Speaker 4: time to get a full lap in before it's time

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Speaker 4: to go back and start again, so they can't make

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Speaker 4: it through.

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Speaker 1: Basically, fill up with gas, right, go do another run?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then forget about sleeping. So kudos to all that,

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Speaker 4: plus the state and local road crews who plow the

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Speaker 4: to like today, everybody's like, we're good now you forget

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Speaker 4: about the guys who are you know?

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Speaker 1: Now I got here at the stadium. It's just getting started.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and the guys at the stadium.

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Speaker 2: And we'll hear from coach McDermott in about ten to

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. As he just addressed the media, We're going

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Speaker 2: to rewrack that sound for you so you can understand

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Speaker 2: the breath of what he and his coaching staff were

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Speaker 2: dealing with, trying every which way but loose to get

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Speaker 2: a practice in yesterday that ultimately did not happen because

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Speaker 2: there was a driving band here in Orchard Park yesterday

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Speaker 2: and it was flat out just too dangerous to try

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Speaker 2: not the same deal, and they just deemed the risk.

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Speaker 1: Was too great.

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Speaker 2: But we'll we'll play coach mcdermot's comments as he pretty

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Speaker 2: extensively laid out all of the hoops they were trying

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Speaker 1: In the end they did. They're back in here today.

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Speaker 2: Their agenda is a little longer in an effort to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's the way it was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You It just camped out over here.

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Speaker 4: It just camped o out. So they it's you'll hear

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Speaker 4: So it's uh, you know, well, we all know you

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Speaker 4: gotta when when it looks like it's gonna happen, they

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Speaker 4: once it flipped like this, once.

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Speaker 2: It flips to a warning, Yeah it's coming, And that's

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Speaker 4: They don't know you for the advisory, which.

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Speaker 2: Means there's a possibility for this. Then you go to

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Speaker 4: Now here we are though, we made it in and

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Speaker 4: it's going to be more of a normal weekend now

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Speaker 4: But once, once people are in and out of their

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Speaker 4: and the driving bands will go away.

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Speaker 2: This week's game at the Lions, along with Bill's practice updates,

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Speaker 2: are presented by Leecom. You're a Lake Erie College of

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Speaker 2: Ostiapas medicine. And as we said, the Bills resume practice

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Speaker 2: this afternoon after meeting virtually on Thursday, and only one

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Speaker 2: player to this point has been ruled out for Sunday's game.

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Speaker 2: That is cornerback Rasull Douglas dealing with a knee injury.

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Speaker 2: So in all likelihood it will be either JaMarcus Ingram

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Speaker 2: or Kyrie Elam starting in his place in Buffalo's secondary

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Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Lions in Detroit. Good news is

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Speaker 2: Bill's wide receiver key On Coleman, is a full participant

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Speaker 2: this week. He will not have an injury designation on

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Speaker 2: today's injury report, according to coach McDermott, so he will

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Speaker 2: be back in the lineup after a four game absence

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Speaker 2: and that will be critical. And this is why I

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Speaker 2: think it is critical, Steve. This is a game against

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Speaker 2: the defense that plays more man coverage more of the

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Speaker 2: time than any other team in football. They play at

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Speaker 2: forty seven percent of the time. They dare you to throw.

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Speaker 1: And what is that I mean?

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna largely mean that it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: down to a one on one matchup type game. This

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Speaker 4: This guy Yeah, He and Marie Cooper being on the

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Speaker 4: the Bills. Khalil Shakiir is gonna mean good things for

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Speaker 4: the Bills. Plus the fact that you can always turn

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Speaker 4: the Bills offensive line is gonna be the absolute engine

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Speaker 4: enough to win a matchup if they go man, whoever

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Speaker 4: it when you talk when you go over and look

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Speaker 4: at all the teams that the Bills play, the Rams,

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Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions this week, the Dolphins. You can go

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Speaker 4: back in time, all these teams Seattle. Their first thing

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Speaker 4: is just like it always is, run and stop. You

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Speaker 4: kind of you know Josh Allen is gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: Just worry about him. If you could stop everybody else

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Speaker 4: got left. That's what they're thinking this week. The offensive line,

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Speaker 4: if they can move those guys out of there. They're

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Speaker 1: It's a hard way to win.

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Speaker 4: It's a hard way to win. Somebody, you can do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean you can do it. I mean they did

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Speaker 4: But that's where teams start. I think the Bills offensive

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Speaker 2: Safety is Tailor Rap and DeMar Hamlin, both on the

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Speaker 2: injury report now, Hamlin added on Thursday as a non

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Speaker 1: Dalton and Kaid also practicing today.

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Speaker 2: to be listed as questionable on Sunday. Casey two Hill,

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Speaker 2: Bills are concerned. We'll do a quick whip around the

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Speaker 2: NFL presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, before we pivot to coach McDermott's comments

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Speaker 2: from today. The Rams get four field goals on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Night Football, and it's enough to lift them to a

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Speaker 2: twelve to six win over the forty nine Ers. No

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Speaker 2: the Rams, who are now eight and six and in

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Speaker 2: so they still have a chance to win that division

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Speaker 2: But big win for them. San Francisco missing the playoffs

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Speaker 2: now it's kind of a foregone conclusion. They are now

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Speaker 4: As you tell me. Yeah, in erase that tight they are.

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Speaker 4: The Rams have the Cardinals and the Seahawks left on

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Speaker 4: for them, the Rams to hone up for the last

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Speaker 4: I told you the Rams are gonna win that division.

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Speaker 4: They really are. They are gonna win that division. They

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't even the biggest headline to come out

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Speaker 4: And guys just say, I can't do it anymore. I

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Speaker 4: And to have himself do it be benched on a

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Speaker 1: It's been like a four year starter for them prior

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Speaker 4: You got you gotta you gotta finish the game, bro,

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Speaker 2: Dolphins, in a mutual parting, have released wide receiver Odell

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Speaker 2: I saw some some internet trolls out there saying book it.

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Speaker 1: He's signing with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: So you know, everybody but he's piling on the Jets

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Speaker 1: I know, I am.

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Speaker 4: I hate those guys.

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Speaker 1: So that's around the NFL presented by Collida Health.

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Speaker 4: Did you read the article about the Lions fan who

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Speaker 1: I did not, he really do.

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Speaker 1: A little too late for that.

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Speaker 1: Just some decord.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, be loud, be proud, just don't be

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so this guy, so there'll be one less

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Speaker 1: Okay, see if a Bills fan can get that ticket.

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Speaker 2: So that's around the NFL presented by Collida Health, the

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. We pivot now

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Speaker 2: to head coach Sean McDermott, who addressed the media less

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Speaker 6: days in the past, so not all that different, but

436
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Speaker 6: the unique part not being able to practice. So we

437
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Speaker 6: went you know, I came in and you know, we

438
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Speaker 6: had a good plan the night before, just with the forecast. Hey,

439
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Speaker 6: let's make sure we have our quote unquote snow chain ready.

440
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Speaker 6: And we put that into action early yesterday morning. And

441
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Speaker 6: when we saw the conditions of the roads, some players,

442
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Speaker 6: some needing treatment or just wanted to come in on

443
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Speaker 6: their own, they came in. Most of them, I would

444
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Speaker 6: say ninety percent. Once we got the message out to them,

445
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Speaker 6: stayed where they were at home, so we were able

446
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Speaker 6: to meet look them in the eye over the over

447
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Speaker 6: zoom and just make sure that they were all good,

448
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Speaker 6: and you know, talked about, hey, make sure you have food,

449
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 6: to make sure you hydrate throughout the day as opposed

450
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Speaker 6: to just being sedentary and sitting sitting in their spot there,

451
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Speaker 6: So try and move around your house, trying and stretch

452
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Speaker 6: a little bit. We then went back to I think

453
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Speaker 6: we took about an hour, you know, kind of hate us.

454
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Speaker 6: And between that and the players had had had meetings

455
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Speaker 6: with their sides of the ball and and special teams.

456
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Speaker 6: Lasted a few hours and you know, honestly, we were

457
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Speaker 6: there was a kind of lessened a little bit the intensity,

458
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Speaker 6: so we thought maybe we'd get a chance to get

459
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Speaker 6: him in, and then just decided it just wasn't wasn't

460
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Speaker 6: safe enough to to try and get him in here.

461
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Speaker 6: So with all the workers out there trying to clear

462
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Speaker 6: the roads and do their jobs, felt like it was

463
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Speaker 6: best to keep them where they were at home. So

464
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Speaker 6: that's that's really the extent of our day. The staff

465
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Speaker 6: was here, the coaching staff and some of the other

466
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Speaker 6: staff as well, made it here and tried to do

467
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Speaker 6: as much planning and and film work as we could.

468
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Speaker 2: Try to start any earlier today with them in an

469
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Speaker 2: effort to make.

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Speaker 6: Up well, it's we thought about go back twenty four hours, Chris.

471
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Speaker 6: We thought about on this is Wednesday night, you know,

472
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Speaker 6: as we're trying to figure out what's the how intense

473
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Speaker 6: is it going to be when we wake up on

474
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Speaker 6: Thursday morning, we thought about trying to move up to

475
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Speaker 6: start time Thursday morning to get him in at least

476
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Speaker 6: get something in and figuring with the with the forecast

477
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Speaker 6: we would be have to get him out. And then

478
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Speaker 6: we just decided, hey, it's you know, we had already

479
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Speaker 6: come back off the West Coast trip where we could

480
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Speaker 6: only do a walk through on Wednesday because of trying

481
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Speaker 6: to get him back fresh and get him some rest.

482
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Speaker 6: And then just by the time we woke up Thursday morning,

483
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Speaker 6: it was it was as bad as it was. No, yeah,

484
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Speaker 6: so I'm getting there. So then so then yesterday we

485
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Speaker 6: talked about should we move it up today, and we

486
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Speaker 6: were we didn't know what we would wake up to

487
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Speaker 6: this morning. We had heard you know, I think the

488
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Speaker 6: storm was forecasted through one pm today or up to

489
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Speaker 6: one pm today, So didn't want to try. And you know,

490
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Speaker 6: you got to think first and foremost about everyone's safety,

491
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Speaker 6: players and other people. The more people we have on

492
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Speaker 6: the road, the more dangerous it gets, naturally, So we

493
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Speaker 6: didn't want players, many of whom haven't driven in the

494
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Speaker 6: snow much in their lives, getting on the road in

495
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Speaker 6: the dark, and then who knows what could happen. So

496
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Speaker 6: we just asked them. We sent them a message last

497
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Speaker 6: night just normal start time and just if you have

498
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Speaker 6: any questions, reach out to your position coach before you

499
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Speaker 6: leave your house. But we will get back to you

500
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Speaker 6: once we feel we have a good hamm on where

501
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Speaker 6: the roads are. So that's that's how the messaging went

502
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Speaker 6: last night. And then we woke up this morning and

503
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Speaker 6: what a phenomenal job the crews have done out there

504
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Speaker 6: to clear the roads and everything. So honestly the biggest

505
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Speaker 6: concern was getting people out of their driveways or out

506
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Speaker 6: of their complexes, developments and whatnot. So you know, that's

507
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Speaker 6: what we saw yesterday too, and we thought when it

508
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 6: kind of broke a little bit around noontime one o'clock,

509
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Speaker 6: thought maybe we could get them in, and we kind

510
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Speaker 6: of went out. We had we sent some scouts out

511
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Speaker 6: from here, not personnel scouts, but you know, maybe some

512
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Speaker 6: personal scouts too, and try to just see how in

513
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Speaker 6: the roads were.

514
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Speaker 4: At it.

515
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Speaker 6: You know, good for how bad it at snow to

516
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Speaker 6: that point, but again getting the guys out of their

517
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Speaker 6: developments or out of their their own driveways. So again

518
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Speaker 6: just felt like putting safety number one was was the

519
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 6: right idea. And then it end up picking back up again.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, like flip plopping days, because normally Friday is

521
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Speaker 4: a bit of a lighter practice, are you going to

522
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Speaker 4: go like a what a fully padded practice today?

523
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Speaker 6: Because no, as a coach, you'd love to write again,

524
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Speaker 6: just I can't do that the guys, I just you know,

525
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 6: it's Friday for them, and we are going to add

526
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 6: some reps and we've we added a walk through this morning,

527
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 6: so more of a Thursday style daily schedule, and then

528
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: the practice schedule will expand some of the reps a

529
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: little bit, just because this is really our first practice, uh,

530
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 6: the only practice real practice will have here.

531
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Speaker 7: So this week we're still sorting through who would start

532
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 7: for a school. But are you looking for one person

533
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 7: to take all of that or are you going to rotate,

534
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 7: which you guys don't know.

535
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think we'll rotate. I mean that's not

536
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 6: the initial plan. Ideal. Ideally will have have a good

537
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Speaker 6: good handle on it when we when we finish practice today.

538
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: So I know, losing a day of practice throughout the

539
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 6: week's not ideal. But a couple of your guys, a

540
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 6: bunch of your guys, we're here two years ago when

541
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 6: you had the snowstorms in November that kind of made

542
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 6: your schedule buried during that week. Does that familiarity with

543
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: a bunch of guys on this team maybe ease your

544
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: concern a little bit just about not having that practice?

545
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 6: Moving forward, getting ready for again a big up home

546
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: with Detroit. Yeah, no, I think all in No, you know,

547
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: we're we're trying to the fund. We find a way.

548
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Speaker 4: That's what we do.

549
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Speaker 6: Right, we did it then, that's our goal. Now, that's

550
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 6: the vision. That's what we talked about on the zoom yesterday.

551
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Speaker 6: We'll figure it out, We'll find a way, and we

552
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 6: go play our best and coach our best football. That's

553
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 6: that's that's what you do. So you try and be

554
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: solution oriented as you look at things. And yesterday and

555
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 6: I thought the players of staff were phenomenal and and

556
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Speaker 6: taking that type of approach, and no different this morning.

557
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 6: They've been great. So I think that's that's that's what

558
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 6: you do. That's what we did then, and that's what

559
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Speaker 6: we're planning on doing.

560
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: Now.

561
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Speaker 7: To the long list of questionable guys, did you see

562
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 7: Dalton Kincaid in there?

563
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 6: Uh, Dalton Kincaid is on there. Yes, questionable he is.

564
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: Yes, as Kim lewis meant to this team.

565
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 6: Position flexibility.

566
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

567
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 6: One two words, right, position and flexibility or one word

568
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 6: in football in the football world, position flexibility all one

569
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 6: word just incredibly valuable for us playing nickel, playing dime,

570
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: playing special teams, playing safety, he's just he's done a

571
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: phenomenal job and fun to watch him grow, right, a

572
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: local product out of U. B and and Detroit as well,

573
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 6: So be good for him to go home a little

574
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Speaker 6: bit here.

575
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 7: What you look at this Detroit offense and how they're built,

576
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 7: especially with those two running backs, the physicality their offensive line.

577
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 7: How much in a week like this where you maybe

578
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 7: didn't get to ramp it up physically, is that concerning

579
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Speaker 7: going into a matchup against a team like that?

580
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

581
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Speaker 6: No, I trust our guys, I really do. Did we

582
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 6: have plans to go in pads? What would have been Thursday?

583
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Speaker 4: Yes?

584
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Speaker 6: That said, you know, sometimes you can't do what you

585
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 6: really want to do, and and you and you do

586
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: your best and you make it work. And that's our guys.

587
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 6: Know what it's going to take miss a heck of

588
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 6: a football team. They're physical to your point, and uh,

589
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: extremely talented. So it's going to take a heck of

590
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 6: a heck of an effort as a collective team. And

591
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: that's where it's got to start, is the physicality and

592
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, so they know they know what's expected.

593
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Speaker 9: Dial and you qualify how much you lose by not

594
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Speaker 9: having a padded such a throughout.

595
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Speaker 7: The week.

596
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 6: Reps, you know, reps, feel technique fundamentals. I'd say, I

597
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 6: think it's just more kind of the boulders of of football.

598
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: You know that you have to continue to hone and

599
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 6: that's why you saved some padded practices for this time

600
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 6: of year. But listen, I couldn't get it in. It's

601
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: the way it goes. Nothing we can do about it.

602
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 7: So style, your style of defense, the scheme primarily played

603
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Speaker 7: out a nickel. How much in a game like this,

604
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Speaker 7: after maybe you didn't do the job you wanted against

605
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 7: the run last time out, do you look to tear

606
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Speaker 7: it and his veteran leadership, his ability to write and ship.

607
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, all the all the guys that have been here

608
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: and they and that have experienced how we play when

609
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 6: we're when we're at our best and what's expected. And

610
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 6: you know again that's they know, they know the vision

611
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: and we got to make sure that vision gets make

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 6: sure it gets communicated throughout everyone on the defense. And

613
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 6: so it's just it's all about building alignment.

614
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Speaker 10: Right.

615
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't get the results you're looking for and

616
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 6: you and you gotta, hey, let's let's make a correction.

617
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: Let's this is where it needs to be corrected, and

618
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: you correct it doesn't mean it's going to get done

619
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 6: all the way the way you want it to right away,

620
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 6: but you keep moving towards that goal and uh, and

621
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Speaker 6: you do that with truth, truthful communication.

622
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Speaker 4: So all right, all right.

623
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Speaker 2: That's Bill's head coach Jean McDermot addressing the media today,

624
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: giving you the four one one on how they navigated

625
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: no practice yesterday due to the weather and a driving

626
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: band preventing players from getting in, along with some of

627
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Speaker 2: the player designations that will pop up today on the

628
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Speaker 2: final edition of the injury Report, which we will pass

629
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Speaker 2: along to you officially when it is released. It is

630
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Speaker 2: an obl Friday fan mail bag. Any question you have

631
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: about the Bills or the league get large. You let

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Speaker 2: us know at eight h three oh five fifty one

633
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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. But we take

634
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Speaker 2: a break here and when we come back, we've got

635
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Speaker 2: collision Course for you. What is the matchup of the

636
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Speaker 2: week in this Bill's Lions game. We'll tell you next

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Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: repair center of the Buffalo Bills get back in the game,

641
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Speaker 2: and this week it's the matchup of the week, at

642
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Speaker 2: least as far as Bill's Lions are concerned. All Pro

643
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Speaker 2: Terren Johnson against all Pro Amana Saint Brown as.

644
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Speaker 1: This is a doozy of a matchup.

645
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Now, Look, the Bills play a good deal of zone defense,

646
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: so he'll be passing them off at times, but he'll

647
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: probably have some man calls in there through the course

648
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Speaker 2: of the game as well, and that's when these two

649
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: guys will be going ahead to it.

650
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at this game. It really looks like

651
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: this game is going to be a push. You know,

652
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Speaker 4: it's going to be that close. Both these offenses have

653
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Speaker 4: an extra gear. Their defenses are opportunistic playmaking. The Bills

654
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Speaker 4: are getting healthier offensively, the Lions are getting healthier defensively.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, The thing that teams want to do

656
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Speaker 4: a lot to the Bills is keep Josh off the field,

657
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Speaker 4: and Detroit thinks they can probably do that. Offensively, they're

658
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Speaker 4: really good on third down, their top five team third

659
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Speaker 4: down conversion. They've got some weapons on the outside, and

660
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Speaker 4: they've got that running back tandem that is really really good,

661
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Speaker 4: so they're going to want to do that. And Amanross

662
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Speaker 4: Saint Brown is an elite dude, so is tarn.

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Speaker 2: This is Taron got an awful lot of practice against

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Speaker 2: an elite receiver last week in Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a really really good game between two

666
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Speaker 4: really really good teams.

667
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Speaker 2: In case you didn't know, Amana Saint Brown second in

668
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Speaker 2: the league among receivers in receiving touchdowns with nine. The

669
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Speaker 2: only player at the receiver position who has more than

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Speaker 2: him Jamar Chase of the Bengals, who already has fifteen.

671
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Speaker 2: Chase has fifteen touchdowns. And that team isn't going to

672
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Speaker 2: get a sniff of the postseason because they.

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Speaker 1: Don't have a defense.

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Speaker 4: That's the way it goes, is the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

676
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Speaker 4: And Cincinnati has their scenarios out there, and I'm been

677
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Speaker 4: kind of check going out im in the break about

678
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Speaker 4: elimination and they usually don't put playoff elimination scenarios out,

679
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Speaker 4: but they have done it this year.

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Speaker 1: It's getting late early for the Cincinnati.

681
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Speaker 4: Six teams in the AFC that are out of the playoffs.

682
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Speaker 4: Brown's Jaguars, Jets, Patriots, Raiders, Titans, elimination scenarios Cincinnati. If

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Speaker 4: they lose and Denver wins, Cincinnati's out. If they and

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Speaker 4: in Denver, then.

685
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Speaker 1: Is playing the Colts?

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Speaker 3: Right.

687
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Speaker 4: If Cincinnati ties and Denver wins, or Baltimore wins or

688
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: ties and LA winsor ties, all of that stuff's in there,

689
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's out of the playoffs. Cincinnati's got a win to

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Speaker 4: stay in it. If they lose and the right team wins,

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Speaker 4: which is Denver, Cincinnati's done.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati goes Cyonarah.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones, as the OBL Friday fan

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Speaker 2: mail bag is open as that is Collision Course brought

695
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Speaker 2: to you by Gabe's Collision.

696
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Speaker 1: And see what's on your mind.

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Speaker 2: Any question about the bills, the league, the playoff scenarios,

698
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: the conference races, whatever's on your mind. You let us

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Speaker 2: know at eight h three zero five to fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five point fifty, and we

701
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Speaker 2: do have open lines for you. Ask us, we'll answer,

702
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Speaker 2: So to the phones we go and leading us off

703
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Speaker 2: today out on the left coast, Aaron in Oregon, what

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Speaker 2: do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Aaron?

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Speaker 11: Thank heys, thank you for speaking with me today, I

707
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Speaker 11: was thinking about the matchup this weekend, and it looks

708
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Speaker 11: like it's going to be a high scoring affair. Like

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Speaker 11: last week it was forty four to forty two. This week,

710
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Speaker 11: I think we might you know, exceed that, and I

711
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Speaker 11: wanted to see what you guys think and the matchup

712
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Speaker 11: I'm kind of most worried about is they're running backs,

713
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Speaker 11: you know, with with that's getting ran on so bad

714
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Speaker 11: last week, and they're two headed monster. I wondered if

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Speaker 11: you guys think maybe we should have Dorian Williams in

716
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Speaker 11: there a little bit more, or some three lanebacker sets,

717
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Speaker 11: and just wanted to pick your brain on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry.

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Speaker 11: I'll go ahead. I just I can hang up and

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Speaker 11: let you guys answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, Thanks Aaron for the call. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing with base defense and putting a third

723
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Speaker 2: linebacker on the field. The Lions passing game is too

724
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Speaker 2: good to comfortably put three linebackers on the field in

725
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Speaker 2: what appears to be an obvious rundown situation, whether it's

726
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Speaker 2: first and five, second and two, whatever it might be.

727
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Speaker 2: And this was the same problem they ran into last week. Sure,

728
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Speaker 2: you'd like to stop Kyrien Williams and play with three

729
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: linebackers on the field in a base set, but that's

730
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Speaker 2: when Matthew Stafford pulls it out and throws it or

731
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: goes play action, and now you've got three linebackers trying

732
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Speaker 2: to cover, and the elite talent of the opposing receiving

733
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: corps doesn't make it a fair fight. And that's one

734
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Speaker 2: of the major reasons why the Bills play nickel defense

735
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: because they got a damn good one in Taron Johnson

736
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Speaker 2: as a nickel corner, and it affords you more flexibility

737
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Speaker 2: based on what the opposing offensive play call is. And

738
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Speaker 2: I think with the talent that they put on the

739
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Speaker 2: field at receiver between Saint Brown, Jamison Williams, and even

740
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Speaker 2: the tight end Sam Laporta, you have got to play

741
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Speaker 2: nickel defense, even though in a perfect world you'd love

742
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Speaker 2: to have a stouter third linebacker on the field to

743
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Speaker 2: stop the run.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you saw it last week. The Rams run

746
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Speaker 4: one into the end zone and they've got a big

747
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: offensive lineman three hundred and twenty pounder out there, and

748
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: he pushes Terran right into the end zone. Arren's got shot,

749
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Speaker 4: but you got to rally to the ball and stop

750
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Speaker 4: the run.

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Speaker 1: And these guys will run right at them too with

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Speaker 1: a line.

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Speaker 4: And we always get this kind of question at this

754
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Speaker 4: point of the season or any point of the season

755
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Speaker 4: where the Bills have been run on, and you're coming

756
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Speaker 4: into a team like Detroit who's got a good run

757
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Speaker 4: game or a good offense in general, and it's just

758
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Speaker 4: it's never been enough in the Sean McDermot era to

759
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Speaker 4: push them out of that. They just don't do it.

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Speaker 4: They would rather have you run the ball and then

761
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Speaker 4: make a play defensively to get you off the field

762
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Speaker 4: than to take a chance on having a guy drop

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Speaker 4: back and getting over the top on you or hitting

764
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Speaker 4: give up a four yard run, Okay, a fourteen yard

765
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Speaker 4: pass not so good. That's kind of where they're at,

766
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Speaker 4: and it's the lesser of two evil. They forced teams

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Speaker 4: to go the long way. The problem is you get

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Speaker 4: into a game with Detroit. They can go the long way.

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Speaker 4: They don't care. In fact, they're really good at it.

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Speaker 2: Any defensive coordinator will tell you that over the course

771
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Speaker 2: of a sixty minute game, even on a good afternoon,

772
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Speaker 2: they might have four perfect play calls for what the

773
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Speaker 2: offense has dialed up. Everything else is a battle of

774
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Speaker 2: attrition and a battle of stalemates, because having the perfect

775
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Speaker 2: call when you don't know exactly what's coming is very difficult,

776
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: and sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't. And because

777
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Speaker 2: of that, a three linebacker based defense compared to a

778
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Speaker 2: nickel defense doesn't offer you the versatility.

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Speaker 1: That the nickel package does because of the coverage.

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Speaker 2: Ability and with a nickel corner the caliber of Taron Johnson,

781
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Speaker 2: who's a pretty darn good box run defender, that affords

782
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Speaker 2: you more versatility on what the offense can throw at

783
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Speaker 2: you than a regular base defense. And that's why nickel

784
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Speaker 2: defense has become the base defense in the league for

785
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Speaker 2: all intents and purposes. Let's go back to the phones

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Speaker 2: and we go to Tom on the West side.

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Speaker 12: What's up to, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Glad you were able

788
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Speaker 12: to get out of your driveways this morning. Hey, I

789
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 12: took a cab ride yesterday coming home from the doctor's office.

790
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Speaker 12: He had w R on, so we started talking football,

791
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Speaker 12: and he was bringing up the fact that they brought

792
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Speaker 12: Milano back and pulled Williams out even though Williams was

793
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Speaker 12: playing well. And now he's concerned about bringing back Coleman

794
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Speaker 12: and Kincaid, and I was trying to explain to him

795
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Speaker 12: that they got to get back in the game's feed.

796
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Speaker 12: They got to get because they've been out over a month,

797
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 12: you know. But the defense, I think this is really

798
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Speaker 12: going to come down to the defense, because you got

799
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Speaker 12: you got Saint Brown, you got Williams, and you got Laporter.

800
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Speaker 12: Don't forget the tight end, and then you got the

801
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Speaker 12: two headed monster in the backfield of give the Montgomery.

802
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Speaker 12: So this is gonna be a defensive battle for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with you. There are

804
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: some things that the Lions do very well. They're a

805
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: number one third down defense in football. Number one. They

806
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: get off the field on third down. They also take

807
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: the football away. Their two safeties have a combined to

808
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: eleven interceptions. Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch are ballhawks. They

809
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: also play a ton of man coverage most often in

810
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 2: the league at forty seven percent of their snaps. Got

811
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Speaker 2: to win matchups this week. If you want to beat

812
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Speaker 2: this Lion's defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's no doubt about it. I mean, you

814
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Speaker 4: can you can pontificate all you want about how this

815
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Speaker 4: game should go. That you're playing a really maybe one

816
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Speaker 4: of the best teams in the National Football League, the

817
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: one that looks the best anyway, you can make a

818
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Speaker 4: case for the Chiefs winning all their games. And this

819
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: team is now twelve and one two. I mean, they're

820
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: they're really good, and they do a lot of things

821
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Speaker 4: extremely well. You've got to make them. You've got to

822
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Speaker 4: take something they have been able to do to everybody

823
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Speaker 4: else away. You've got to convert on third down where

824
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: nobody else can convert on third down against these guys,

825
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: You've got to, you know, stay on the field and

826
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Speaker 4: win the time of possession so that their offense doesn't

827
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Speaker 4: get on the field. You've got to stop their running

828
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: game that nobody else has been able to really style me.

829
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Speaker 4: You've got to do something like that and make enough

830
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: plays defensively, and in a league where it's hard to

831
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Speaker 4: play defense, you've got to make some plays defensively that

832
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: gets them out of their game and puts them in

833
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: desperation mode. Well if are the Bills good enough to

834
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: do that? Yeah, but they got to show up and

835
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Speaker 4: do it. Because of late, particularly last weekend, they did

836
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Speaker 4: not look that way.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls

838
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Speaker 2: when we return. On an OBL Friday fan mailbag edition

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Speaker 2: of One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

840
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00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,319
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Speaker 2: out on fun giveaways and Tim Horton's wall supplies last

845
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Speaker 2: got to get back to the phones here On this

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan Mailbag edition of One Bill's Live, Chris

847
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Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you and leading us off in

848
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Speaker 2: this segment is Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Kevin?

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my car

852
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 13: because you guys are safe.

853
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're good.

854
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Speaker 13: You too good. I wonder I know a lot of

855
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 13: people are worried, you know, bringing up about you know,

856
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Speaker 13: missing the whole practice most a bit and all that,

857
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Speaker 13: but it kind of makes me a little bit similar,

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Speaker 13: not totally too. I remember two of you. I'll never

859
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 13: forget two years ago, get ready for the blizzard when

860
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 13: we had to cut practice totally short. That Thursday, I

861
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Speaker 13: watch the show to get ready to get the heck

862
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 13: year to go to Chicago or we were gone anywhere.

863
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Speaker 13: If you would have waited up Friday, and you say

864
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 13: McDermott had to cut practice hotly short, like by four

865
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Speaker 13: or five hours to get out of here by supper

866
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Speaker 13: time to Thingers were playing a better.

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Speaker 1: Team, much better.

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Speaker 13: So we were playing the stinky Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, much better team they're playing. And that's therein lies

870
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Speaker 2: the difference. Yeah, it's funny because I was thinking about

871
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: that too, because it seems like whenever the snow flies,

872
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: the Bills are going to Detroit for some reason, either

873
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: because they got a relocated game, or I mean two

874
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: years ago they go to Cleveland, or they go to

875
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: Detroit to play Cleveland because their home game got relocated there,

876
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: and then the next week they play at Detroit. Anyway,

877
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving ten years ago, when Moron was coaching the team,

878
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: they had Snowvember and they did not practice I think

879
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: until Friday afternoon in Detroit, and I was at that

880
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: practice and I remember Maron coming out after and going,

881
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what were like he was, his head

882
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: was still spinning and they just finished the first practice

883
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: of the week on Friday. The game got moved to Monday,

884
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: so they got a Saturday practice in and then Sunday

885
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: was like a Friday. They crushed the Jets thirty eight

886
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: to three, but again much lesser opponent and a neutral

887
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: site game.

888
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: For all intents and part.

889
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: That's that game with Moron going moving to Cleveland. I

890
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: was like the first time it ever happened.

891
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: The game got relocated to Detroit's.

892
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: First time that And and I'll say this, there's all

893
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: kinds of epic tales about that weekend around the league

894
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: where you know, where this team had to what they

895
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 4: had to do, what had to you know, and.

896
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Tickets were free. Yes, they were just hoping people would

897
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: show up and watch the thing.

898
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: It was wild.

899
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: Kudos to Scott Chandler in the end zone doing the

900
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: shovel snow shovel. Yeah down celebrations and you know it's

901
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: probably won't be the last time.

902
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: But this is this is a different animal. They're all different.

903
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: It's a home game for Detroit. They're tough at home.

904
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 4: They want the only loss of that they have came

905
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: at home. And Week two, I believe, Yeah, against Tampa Bay.

906
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: They're on an eleven game winning streak.

907
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 4: Right, They're on an eleven game winning streak, folks. This

908
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: team is for real. They are really really good and

909
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 4: they are playing like Grease Lightning. I mean they are.

910
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: They're winning a few by the skin of their teeth.

911
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: The last couple of times.

912
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 4: We'll see the three two three point games in a row.

913
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but nevertheless still winning.

914
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: They're winning.

915
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: To Mike and Amherst, next, what's up, Mike?

916
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, I've been meaning to call you up for

917
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 14: a while to run this scenario by you. Given last

918
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 14: week's kind of end the game situation kind of prompted

919
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 14: me to give you a call. So my friends and

920
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 14: I have been having this conversation for a while. Hopefully

921
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 14: it happens in the Super Bowl or AFC Championship game

922
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 14: or what have you. Maybe it'll happen this week against

923
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 14: the Lions. But our debate and we kind of animously agree.

924
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 14: If the Bills are down seven points, they drive down

925
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 14: the field score a touchdown. Let's say there's five, ten,

926
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 14: fifteen seconds left. We all feel put the ball in

927
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 14: Josh Allen's hand at the two yard line and go

928
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 14: for the win. Don't play for overtime. Put the ball

929
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 14: in your best player's hand. It was about five or

930
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 14: six weeks ago. There was a handful of teams in

931
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 14: that same exact scenario, more notably recently the Bucks on

932
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 14: the road and Arrowhead scoring at end of game, not

933
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 14: going for the win, playing for overtime, and then losing.

934
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 14: Given the Bills overtime history under McDermott, and what I

935
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 14: just laid out I wanted to know is a would

936
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 14: you guys go for the win? Be what player are

937
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 14: you calling? And see? Do you think Brady Allen and

938
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 14: McDermott have something drawn up ready for that scenario?

939
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

940
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean I would tend to think they would, knowing

941
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: how situationally aware that the team is just by virtue

942
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: of the way that they practice. I mean, every practice

943
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: begins with a different situational thing that comes up in

944
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: a football game, and they rep it for like three

945
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: plays every time practice starts. Once they jump into the

946
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: team thing, bang, here's the situation. Let's execute it both

947
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively. So I would anticipate they would have

948
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: something in mind, a menu of sorts for a play

949
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: like that. The old adage has always been if you're

950
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: in a tie game, late, you try to win it.

951
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 2: When you're on the road, you know, maybe you play

952
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: for overtime at home where you got the crowd behind

953
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: you and that kind of stuff. But I think every

954
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: game is a different animal, Steve, because of.

955
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: How the game is.

956
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: It's it's not as simple as just saying we don't

957
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: want to give the ball back to that Lion's offense.

958
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: What if the Bills defense is killing it and it's

959
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: a ten to ten game, you know what I mean,

960
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: and you're you're you've got a chance to either tie

961
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: it to ten or win it with a two point conversion,

962
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: and your defense has been playing lights out.

963
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah that like that game last night it's it's nine

964
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 4: to nine, yeah, you know, or nine to six.

965
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: So I think the circumstances of a game impact that decision.

966
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: It's not a unilateral decision.

967
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: It never is.

968
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: It never is because there's too many variables involved in

969
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: every single football.

970
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: It is an art form because you got to know

971
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: there is there is a point in which the situation

972
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: and the game that you're in supersedes analytics, snow games,

973
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: rain games and whatever. Games where you got a massive

974
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 4: injury to for instance, if you're in that scenario, and

975
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: I'll put it to you this way. You're in that

976
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: scenario where you tie it up with a touchdown and

977
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: you're on the road and you got a chance to

978
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 4: go for two to win it, or or a field

979
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 4: goal to tie it. What if their starting quarterback is out,

980
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: I'll take that team to overtime. You know, they lose

981
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: their starting quarterback midway through the fourth quarter, he ain't

982
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: coming back. I'll take that team to overtime. Let their

983
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: backup quarterback see if he can win. You know what

984
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: I mean? That kind of stuff and gets thrown out

985
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: in the analytics department, and.

986
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: The player you're gonna call is predicated on how that

987
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: opposing defense has been playing.

988
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 3: Right.

989
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: You may want to give it to Josh on a

990
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: sneak on a two point conversion, but what if they've

991
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: stoned you on every short yard each play the whole game,

992
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: You're probably not calling that man.

993
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: What if you spread them out?

994
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: What if you spread him out, put Josh in shotgun

995
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: and still put it in his hands and say, hey,

996
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: it's student body, right, let's go, and he takes it

997
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: in and he can either throw it or pass it,

998
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: and he can tuck it under his arm, dive in,

999
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 4: or I dump it. So yeah, they do have a menu.

1000
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: First of all, your question, do you go for the win?

1001
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: I think on the road. Yeah, I'm okay with that

1002
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: with Josh, Yeah sure, What play do you run? I

1003
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: like the not an RPO, but a run pass option

1004
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 4: where Josh can swing out, move him or out, put

1005
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: him on a bootlet, spread him out, spread him out.

1006
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: He can throw it, or he can dive in. Because

1007
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 4: he's two hundred fifty pounds. You get on the edge

1008
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: and somebody's trying to stop him. The guy might weigh

1009
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: two hundred pounds, he ain't gonna win. And do they

1010
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: have a play? Yes, they got like fifteen of those,

1011
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: all of them. They got a whole menu of red

1012
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: zone goal line plays that they can go to and

1013
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: they could take any one of them. So all of

1014
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 4: that stuff, there's your three questions. Do you go for

1015
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: the win?

1016
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1017
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: In certain situations, yeah, you do go for it. And

1018
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: if you're Dan Campbell, they're gonna go for it all

1019
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: the time. What play? And I told you you put

1020
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 4: it in Josh's hands, just like they did last week

1021
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: against the Rams. What gets caught up in it? Even

1022
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 4: if Josh gets in on the rams. You still ain't

1023
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: gonna win. You ain't gonna win that game. Three. Yes,

1024
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: they've got a whole menu of plays they can use

1025
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: for that.

1026
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Break time for us when we come back.

1027
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: Hour number two begins with our good friend Greg Cosel,

1028
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: senior producer from NFL Films. He joins us next to

1029
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: talk Bill's Lions here on One Bill's Live.

1030
00:51:42,440 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 8: Stay with us.

1031
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalia Health.

1032
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: All Right, here we are our number two, Chris Brown,

1033
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker here on an obl Friday fan mail bag,

1034
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: and please to welcome in now senior producer from NFL Films,

1035
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: Greg co cell Whi also as a co host of

1036
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: ESPN's NFL Matchup Show and Greg's weekly segment presented by

1037
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work partner of the

1038
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Well, another big one here for Buffalo playing

1039
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: the best team in the NFC, Greg, and the two

1040
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: highest scoring teams in the le First, I want to know, selfishly,

1041
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: are you hoping for a barn Burner high scoring game?

1042
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: Without question?

1043
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: Yes, I figured as much.

1044
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean last week's game was a

1045
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 15: lot of fun. I'm looking forward to another one. You

1046
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 15: know those those games are fun.

1047
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one and this one kind of lines up

1048
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: like that, right. I mean, although the Detroit Lions are

1049
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: getting healthier on the defensive side, the Bills are getting

1050
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: healthier on their offensive side. What do you see? How

1051
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: do you think these two teams are gonna mesh? I mean,

1052
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: it looks like it's gonna be, you know, another a

1053
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: three point game, a two point game. No matter whether

1054
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: it's forty four or forty two like last week, or

1055
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: thirty eight, thirty five, you name it. You still think

1056
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a high scoring affair. And these

1057
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 4: two teams mesh in a way that kind of leans

1058
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 4: toward that, don't you think?

1059
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, you gotta we could unpack a lot here,

1060
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 15: you know. Let's start on defense for the Bills. Obviously

1061
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 15: not a good performance last week. Normally, good teams don't

1062
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 15: play poorly on one side of the ball two weeks

1063
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 15: in a row. But they certainly have to clean some

1064
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 15: things up, particularly in their zone coverage concepts. You could

1065
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 15: make the argument that the Lions are even better than

1066
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 15: the Rams attacking zone coverage. Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator,

1067
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 15: may be as good as anyone in the league in

1068
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 15: terms of spacing of routes, route combinations, creating defined reads

1069
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 15: and throws for Jared Goff, who much like Stafford, plays

1070
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 15: under center, and the play action part of their past

1071
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 15: game is really a critical piece. So you know, that's

1072
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 15: something that they definitely have to get cleaned up coming

1073
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 15: off last week because the Lions are really really good

1074
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 15: at it.

1075
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: And then taking that a step further, you know, the

1076
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: bootleg pass game is something that is a part of

1077
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: the Lions offense, maybe not to the degree that it

1078
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: is with Stafford in LA, but the Bills had literally

1079
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: no answer for it. I don't know if there's a

1080
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: true solution to it. Reason being, you've got to you

1081
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: have to respect their run game, so to overplay the

1082
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: bootleg is near and possible, right.

1083
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 15: Well, you have to respect their run game in all facets.

1084
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 15: I mean, Gibbs is far more explosive obviously than Kyraen Williams,

1085
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 15: and David Montgomery is a very good back as well,

1086
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 15: and he's probably a little quicker than he's given credit for.

1087
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 15: So they've got the one two punch there, and then

1088
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 15: you have Gibbs in the past game, who's a much

1089
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 15: different player than anybody the Rams put out there in

1090
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 15: their past game from the backfield. So you know, there's

1091
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 15: more to the Lions offense quite frankly, than there is

1092
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 15: to the Rams offense. So they're going to have to

1093
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 15: It's a hard deal because you have to play with

1094
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 15: your eyes really really well. But it's hard. I mean,

1095
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 15: it's just human nature. You can go over this and

1096
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 15: go over this.

1097
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: But you know, when you.

1098
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 15: See the run element and you see God thunder center,

1099
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 15: no one Owen's thrown more passes, had more dropbacks from

1100
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 15: under center than Jared Goth. That's that's the foundation of

1101
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 15: what they do, and that really helps their run game

1102
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 15: as well. So it's this is a tough matchup. The

1103
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 15: key thing, I think number one, you have to you

1104
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 15: have to at least contain the run game.

1105
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: That's the critical piece.

1106
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 15: Then they have to get a better four man D

1107
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 15: line pass rush than they did a week ago. Last

1108
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 15: week it was relatively non existent. They're going to have

1109
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 15: to do better with their pass rush because Goth is

1110
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 15: not going anywhere, and if you can get bodies around him,

1111
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 15: obviously his efficiency drops. If he's comfortable in the pocket,

1112
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 15: boy does he look good throwing the football.

1113
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 4: Why are the Lions so good on third down?

1114
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1115
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 15: I think it's a combination of things. Number One, they

1116
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 15: protect exceptionally well. Their concepts create openings. They're good against

1117
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 15: man coverage as well because they have mon Ross Saint

1118
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 15: Brown who can win. They have Williams, who's you know,

1119
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 15: obviously very fast. Laportock can win against man coverage. So

1120
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 15: they can beat you any number of waste. They can

1121
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 15: beat you with their concepts depending on what the down

1122
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 15: and distance is. If they anticipate zone, they can beat

1123
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 15: you that way. And if they get man, they have

1124
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 15: the route to beat man because of the players that

1125
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 15: are involved. So and it all starts with protection, I

1126
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 15: think most would say. And it's fair that they have

1127
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 15: a top three, top four offensive line in the league.

1128
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's another one.

1129
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: And this might just be an anomaly, but according to

1130
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Next Gen Stats, all ten of Gof's interceptions have come

1131
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: against zone coverage.

1132
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I realize five of those came in one game against Houston. Yeah,

1133
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: but all of his interceptions against zone coverage. Just from

1134
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: all the snaps that you've.

1135
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: Watched of GoF this year, which is practically every one,

1136
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: I would think, is there anything?

1137
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: Is there anything to be made of that, or.

1138
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 15: I mean just a general statement, Brownie, I'd say he's

1139
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 15: a really good window thrower. And sometimes when you're a

1140
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 15: window thrower, you make a throw and you just might

1141
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 15: misread where a defender is and he steps in front

1142
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 15: and makes a pick. So yeah, I could that, I

1143
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 15: could understand, But yeah, I don't think there's enough to

1144
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 15: make make of that that you say, oh my god,

1145
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 15: this guy's a real problem.

1146
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: Now.

1147
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 15: GoF is a quarterback that when he does start to

1148
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 15: feel pressure, he will hurry himself. He will play a

1149
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 15: little fast, and he'll make them all advised throws. Now

1150
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 15: that doesn't happen a lot because their old line is

1151
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 15: really really good, but you have to be able to

1152
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 15: make him play faster. If you allow them to be

1153
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 15: proactive and everything they do, whether it's due to just

1154
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 15: them beating you physically or the down in distances such

1155
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 15: that the playbook is wide open, then it becomes tough.

1156
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 15: You have to put them in longer yarded situations and

1157
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 15: you have to make God feel uncomfortable in the pocket.

1158
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: And one of the things we've talked about at length

1159
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 4: o the course the last couple of years is how

1160
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: good Tarren Johnson has been at the nickel and we

1161
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: always take calls during the week of these games where

1162
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: it looks like the other team's gonna run the ball

1163
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 4: really well, and people say, well, what, you should put

1164
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: a bigger guy out there. Dorrian Williams should be back

1165
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: on the field with Milano, with Bernard, and the Bills

1166
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: have over the years been steadfastly committed to playing Taron Johnson.

1167
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: Now after a week like they had last week, that

1168
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: becomes harder to defend. But what is your thought about

1169
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 4: the Bills philosophy of many we'll give up the run

1170
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: game a little bit to make sure we can stay

1171
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: keep nickel on the field and make sure they can't

1172
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: beat us over the top.

1173
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 15: Well, that's a great question for this week, in particular

1174
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 15: because the Lions have the second highest percentage of twelve

1175
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 15: personnel snaps in the league. They're about thirty five percent

1176
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 15: of their offensive snaps come with two tight ends on

1177
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 15: the field, So that raises a really interesting question. And

1178
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 15: obviously we don't know that answer because John mcdermot's not

1179
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 15: going to make a public announcement, but it'll be interesting

1180
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 15: to see if they stay with that twelve with that

1181
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 15: nickel with Johnson, who's a very good player, probably a

1182
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 15: top three or four nickel in the league. But still

1183
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 15: you've got a run game now out of two tight

1184
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 15: end sets, You've got a physical back in Montgomery, and

1185
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 15: obviously you have the explosive back in Gibbs, who, by

1186
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 15: the way, is a little more physical than he's given

1187
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 15: credit for. So it'll be interesting to see, depending on

1188
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 15: down and distance, if indeed they put three linebackers on

1189
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 15: the field with Dorian Williams. That to me is one

1190
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 15: of the most intriguing matchup elements on that side of

1191
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 15: the ball in this game, because the Lions are so heavy,

1192
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 15: high percentage twelve personnel.

1193
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: Well and conversely to that, the Bills go extra offensive lineman.

1194
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, is that kind of what we're looking at?

1195
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: Two teams that kind of do it a different way.

1196
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: They go twelve personnel, Bills go extra offensive lineman. How

1197
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: does the extra offensive lineman for the Bills? You know,

1198
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: how does that? You think the Detroit Lions are going

1199
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: to treat that.

1200
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 15: They'll treat that by playing bass. But you know, you

1201
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 15: can go you can go with a sixth offensive lineman,

1202
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 15: essentially meaning you only have four eligible receivers, meaningful receivers

1203
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 15: that are eligible. You can do that when your quarterback

1204
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 15: is mobile, because let's say you choose to throw out

1205
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 15: of that and they do on occasion. Obviously they use

1206
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 15: it more in the run game, but they do. They

1207
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 15: will take some shot play attempts with it. You can

1208
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 15: do that if your quarterback is mobile because if for

1209
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 15: whatever reason what you call doesn't work or you get pressure,

1210
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 15: your quarterback can then compensate for that with his movement.

1211
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 15: It's hard to play with six offensive linemen with the

1212
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 15: consistency and volume that the Bills do if your quarterback

1213
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 15: is not mobile, because if it doesn't work, your quarterback

1214
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 15: has nothing to do. You know, he's gonna get sacked

1215
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 15: or he has to throw it away and the play's dead.

1216
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 15: You can do it with a mobile quarterback because Josh

1217
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 15: Allen makes something happen if the design of the play

1218
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 15: doesn't work.

1219
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: All right, So let's look at that Lion's defense.

1220
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: They play man coverage more than any other team in football,

1221
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: over forty.

1222
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 3: Seven perciles an awful lot too.

1223
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: Yes, all that being said, the Bills have guys that

1224
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: can win in man coverage. Amari Cooper, Kean Coleman is

1225
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: going to be back in the lineup and Khalil Shakir,

1226
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 2: so knowing that they have weapons across the front and

1227
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: knowing Josh can carve up man coverage. Do you think

1228
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: the Lions play as much man this week against this offense.

1229
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 15: I mean, I wish I had a crystal ball for that.

1230
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 15: But Aaron Glenn is an aggressive guy. If there's a change, Brownie,

1231
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 15: it would be slight. He's not all of a sudden

1232
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 15: going to a band in what he does because I

1233
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 15: think that's who they are. I'm sure that's how he coaches.

1234
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 15: You know, it goes back to the way he was

1235
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 15: a player. I mean, he's a toughness, competitive, feisty guy.

1236
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 15: He wants his defense to be that. And you could

1237
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 15: argue they have the best safety tandem in the league

1238
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 15: in Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph and Branch gives them

1239
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 15: a ton of flexibility because he has slot corner skills.

1240
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 15: So if they feel that there are certain situations in

1241
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 15: which he can line up against Shakira and play man,

1242
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 15: They're gonna feel comfortable with that. I'm not saying that

1243
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 15: they're gonna win the matchup every time because You guys

1244
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 15: know how I feel about Shakiir and I think he's

1245
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 15: a really, really good player. But they're gonna feel comfortable

1246
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 15: with that on their end, So I don't think they're

1247
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 15: going to back off playing man coverage, and I think

1248
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 15: they will pressure because as good as Josh is, you know,

1249
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 15: making off script plays and moving, I still think that

1250
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 15: teams feel that you want to speed up those guys

1251
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 15: and you want to pressure them.

1252
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: You don't want to let them sit there.

1253
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: Do you think the Bills offensive line can can hang

1254
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: in there with that pressure?

1255
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean they're missing players, so yes, I mean

1256
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 15: the Bills offensive line to me, has been really solid

1257
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 15: all year.

1258
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: I mean, don't you guys agree, I.

1259
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: Think give up the few sacks in the league.

1260
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, So, I mean I don't think that's a problem.

1261
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 15: I mean, obviously they made a trade for Zadarius Smith

1262
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 15: they want because Hutchinson's out. So you know, they've got

1263
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 15: a lot of try hard guys. They've gotten good play

1264
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 15: from guys that have had to play like Mohammed this

1265
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 15: Trevor Nuwaski has been a really intriguing player for the

1266
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 15: Lions who plays on the ball and off the ball,

1267
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 15: depending on what the personnel they put out there on

1268
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 15: the offensive personnel.

1269
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 3: Is, is DJ Reader back this week?

1270
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: He's He's probably gonna be questionable.

1271
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 15: He's trending, okay, because when Reader and McNeil play, I mean,

1272
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 15: it's funny. Obviously, Angeloni's out and Rodriguez is out, and

1273
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 15: so it's a mood point for this week. But when

1274
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 15: everybody's healthy, you could argue that down the middle, which

1275
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 15: not a lot of people talk about in today's NFL.

1276
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: They think corners and pass edge pass rushers.

1277
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 15: But you could argue down them middle of a defense

1278
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 15: that they've got the best in the league with Reader, McNeil, Campbell,

1279
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 15: Anzeloni and josephin Branch. Now, obviously for this week that's

1280
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 15: kind of a moot point, but their defenses is, you know,

1281
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 15: they've got some pretty good players who are not necessarily

1282
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 15: known players who are necessarily all pros.

1283
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: So what would you attribute the Lions defensive success on

1284
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: third down to be? Because they're number one in the

1285
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: league in getting off the field on third down? What

1286
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: do they do well on the money down or is

1287
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: it first and second down that's setting them up for

1288
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: success there?

1289
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 15: Well, Number one, they're very aggressive as you said, they

1290
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 15: blitz a lot, they stunt a lot. They make it

1291
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 15: difficult for offenses to handle what they do, and they

1292
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 15: they're very aggressive. They make you execute at a high

1293
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 15: level because they're going to play man, they're going to pressure,

1294
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 15: and they put a lot of pressure on an O line. Now,

1295
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 15: the Bills O lines very good, but still when you

1296
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 15: start getting into a lot of different stunt concepts, multiple

1297
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 15: stunt concepts, you know, that makes it a little more difficult.

1298
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 15: Now we know Josh Allen doesn't get sacked. You know,

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Speaker 15: a good part of that's on the old line, A

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Speaker 15: good part of that's on him. I think he's what

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Speaker 15: been sacked thirteen times all year and he was not

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Speaker 15: sacked last week, which was pretty remarkable given how much

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Speaker 15: you know they had to throw in the way the

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Speaker 15: game played out. But you know, this is a difficult

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Speaker 15: defense to play against because they're so they're so aggressive. Now,

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Speaker 15: that doesn't mean they can't be be Look, we saw

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Speaker 15: Josh make them throws last week versus man coverage that

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Speaker 15: were just ridiculous. I mean when he hit Cooper on

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Speaker 15: third down on the fade ball, when he hit Hollands

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Speaker 15: for the touchdown on the slot fade. I mean he

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Speaker 15: made some throws against Man that were ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and taking that a step further, the Bills will

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Speaker 2: probably want to re establish their run game, which was

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Speaker 2: sorely absent due in part to the fact that they

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Speaker 2: were down seventeen in the second half. But how do

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Speaker 2: you what is the general rule of thumb if you

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Speaker 2: want to run the ball outside, whether it's a wide

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Speaker 2: zone or something else, and you're playing a wide nine

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Speaker 2: defensive front like the Lions play, what is the general

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Speaker 2: approach to troubleshoot that?

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Speaker 15: Well, it's hard to get outside of that. It played

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Speaker 15: correctly by the defense, So now you have to work

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Speaker 15: inside and you know, in an ideal world to me,

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Speaker 15: you know, Aaron Cromer certainly knows a lot more than

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Speaker 15: I do. But I think with this particular group, as

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Speaker 15: good as the Bills O line is overall, I think

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Speaker 15: you have to try to create angle blocks, leverage blocks.

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Speaker 15: This is a tough group to go mono amano against.

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Speaker 15: You know, McNeil's a really good player. If Reader plays,

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Speaker 15: he's a really really good player, you know. And they've

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Speaker 15: gotten believe it or not, they've gotten terrific play from

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Speaker 15: Pat O'Connor, who's been around the league. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 15: even Broderick Martin has played well. I mean a lot

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Speaker 15: of guys who are unknown players to to you know,

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Speaker 15: the normal fan. They've gotten really quality played from these players.

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Speaker 15: And Jack Campbell is a football player and he's six five,

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Speaker 15: two hundred and fifty pounds, you know, so that's a

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Speaker 15: big deal. That's a trait for a stackbacker. There's not

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Speaker 15: a lot of stackbackers in the NFL at six five,

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Speaker 15: two fifty. Obviously you had one in Buffalo for a

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Speaker 15: number of years in Edmunds, But I mean there's not

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Speaker 15: many guys like that. So this is not an easy

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 15: defense to run against. But you're going to need ango blocks,

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Speaker 15: You're going to need leverage blocks, You're going to need

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Speaker 15: the kind of runs that present those kinds of blocks.

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Speaker 4: Usually when a when a defense is really aggressive, ultra aggressive,

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Speaker 4: like on third down, like you're talking about Aaron Glenny Rice, philosophically,

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Speaker 4: they'll the only way to get them from being like

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Speaker 4: that is to hurt them, make them for a big play.

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Speaker 4: If they're going to be aggressive, they're obviously vulnerable and

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Speaker 4: they got to hold up in the back end. Long enough.

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Speaker 4: Has any team been able to do that hurt them

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Speaker 4: when they get aggressive on third down, hit them for

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Speaker 4: the big play, because I mean they've.

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Speaker 15: Given up plays, you know, sure, you know, and I

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Speaker 15: can't think of right off hand of their whole season.

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Speaker 15: There's been a lot of games now, but I'm sure

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Speaker 15: they have when Look, when you're aggressive, you know, Steve,

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Speaker 15: you're gonna get beat here and there. That's not going

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Speaker 15: to stop Aaron Glenn from doing what he does, though.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, obviously, if the game is if

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Speaker 15: it's perfect for the Bills and all of a sudden

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Speaker 15: they're up twenty four to ten, maybe, but if it

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Speaker 15: seems to be a normal game, I don't think that

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Speaker 15: Aaron Glenn is going to back off, right, you know. So,

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Speaker 15: so we'll see how all that plays out, you know,

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Speaker 15: I'm really.

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Speaker 3: Interested to see.

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Speaker 15: Well, one thing I think is really important in this

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Speaker 15: game is is Joe Brady I think is critical in

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Speaker 15: this game with what he calls in certain situations as

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Speaker 15: far as man beater concepts. To me, you need to

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Speaker 15: call man beater concepts. You can't just line up and

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Speaker 15: say hey, let's let's win one all one. Now that's

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 15: going to happen in every game, as we know that,

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 15: sometimes you got to do that. We just talked about

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Speaker 15: two plays from last week that were just you know, hey,

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01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 15: they won one on one and Josh made ridiculously good throws.

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Speaker 15: But you've got to create stacks, rubs motions.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 15: Obviously, the defense calls them rubs, the offense calls them rubs,

1382
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 15: the defense calls them picks. But you got to do

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 15: all that stuff to beat man. You can't just line

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 15: up and say, hey, my guy's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: Greg, thanks as always for the time. We appreciate it.

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: Enjoy that one. It's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be flipping back and forth between that one

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh and Philly.

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Speaker 3: I know you, I know, and I wish they were

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Speaker 3: on at different times.

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: I know you too well. You're gonna be channel surfing.

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: And it's really gonna bother me too. I've already been

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Speaker 3: thinking about that.

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week, right, Thanks.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that senior producer Greg co Sel from NFL Films.

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Speaker 2: I didn't ask him Steve about special teams, because he

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Speaker 2: usually doesn't watch special teams.

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Speaker 1: Tape No offense.

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01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: Detroit is an elite special teams unit. I don't know

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: if you've looked at some of their performance rankings thus far,

1403
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: but here they are on the coverage side of things,

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: ninth in netpunt average against, and they are also third

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: in hunt coverage. Okay, it's the return elements of their

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01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: game that are dangerous, and they're kicking so tied for

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: first in the league and field goal percentage. First in

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01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: the league in net punting average, second in gross punting average,

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: second in kick return average, fourth in punt return average.

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Speaker 1: They are top five across the board.

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: And the Bills, as we know, their special teams has

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01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 2: had their share of struggles this season.

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 4: It has been a struggle at times for the Bills,

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 4: and whenever that happens, it usually snap, it usually turns

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 4: into a big play against you.

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: And that's as we saw last week.

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: You've got to have that, You've got to have it

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Speaker 4: buttoned up.

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01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: I mean, they are playing a top five special teams unit.

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Speaker 2: You really have to bring it this week and the

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Speaker 2: third I'll.

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Speaker 4: Say this too. Their coaching staff is talking just like

1423
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 4: you are, and they're putting the pressure on those guys,

1424
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 4: say hey, Listen, this is a game you can win

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 4: for us. They're great offensively, they're great defensively. We're going

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a dogfight. You guys are the difference.

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 4: You're you're better than they are, and they're they're gonna

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 4: pound that home. You can hear. You can just imagine

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01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell and what he has to say to the

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: special teams. Guys. Yep, this is a game that guys

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: like I used to be look forward to. You really do,

1432
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 4: and you feel like you got to. This is a

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 4: game where you've got to contribute.

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's it's an issue.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Tom in cheek to Waganax, what's up Tom?

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 5: Hey, Mary, Christmas to both of you guys as well. Okay,

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 5: no one seems to address the game last night. Just

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 5: explain to me how the Rams could only score twelve

1440
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 5: points against the forty nine ers. Their offense went to

1441
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 5: on vacation, but the defense played good. So if we

1442
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 5: play like we did last week the defense, I think

1443
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 5: Detroit's gonna score over fifty points. How the Rams forty

1444
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: nine ers hold the Rams to twelve points and we

1445
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 5: give them forty four.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's it's a week to week league,

1447
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 4: and as good as you play one week doesn't mean

1448
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 4: you're actually going to play that good the next week.

1449
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: And last night, the first half of that game was

1450
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 4: a mont was a rainstorm. They had trouble holding the ball.

1451
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too, Matt Stafford was fortunate because

1452
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: he threw a lot of balls into the arms of

1453
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: forty nine ers and they couldn't catch it. So as

1454
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: good as the Rams played against the Bills, they did

1455
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: not play that well offensively last night.

1456
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: And I'll submit one other thing. Those are two division opponents.

1457
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 2: They know each other intimately well. Oftentimes you will see

1458
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins offense run up the score on a

1459
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: team that doesn't see them very often. Against the Bills,

1460
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: they struggle why, because the Bills are accustomed to playing

1461
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: that offense twice a year, year over year. The familiarity

1462
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: for your players with an opponent undoubtedly helps. And the

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: Niners know the Rams. The Rams know the Niners. That's

1464
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: why division games, more often than not are tighter than

1465
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: people anticipate them to be. And I think that was

1466
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: a factor at work last night as well. Gotta take

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: a break here. We're up against the clock. But when

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Speaker 2: we come back, more of your phone calls. Here on

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Speaker 2: Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark is the official healthcare

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Speaker 2: plan of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: Because life.

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: Every week we ask you what you got cooking up

1475
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: for your tailgates, whether it's home or away.

1476
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: We know you people have things on your game day menu,

1477
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: So here we go.

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 4: We know you people do.

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: Brian says, We're going to our friend's house as per usual,

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: and buffalo chicken nachos with all the extras you could want.

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: I want to know what the extras are, Brian, Come on,

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: details matter here. I mean, Buffalo chicken nachos is a

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: great jumping off point, but what are the extras? Are

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01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: we talking jalapenos? Are we talking you know tomatoes, green chilis?

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 4: Aren't jalapenos part of the you know chicken nachos?

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assuming they are, but I don't have

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: the details.

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: I would just be guessing here, Steve.

1490
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: Brian's just Brian's just checking a box talking to us.

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need details the details are what matter here.

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean it could put you over the top, you know,

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: in terms of your game day menu. So I appreciate

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: the submission, Brian, but I need I need details. What

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: are the extras? I mean all that you could want?

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, do you have pickled onions? You know,

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01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: do you have pickled jlapenos or do you have fresh halopenos?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 1: What are we doing right? I need.

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Speaker 2: The beef, says if no hockey game, I will be

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01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: going to make some smoked Gouda bacon mac and cheese

1502
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: chicken wings.

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: See now these are the details.

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 2: I am talking about smoked Guda, bacon, mac and cheese.

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: Now I'm hungry. That's the difference, Brian. Let the beef

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: show you how it's done. Okay, fried and smoked with

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: a sharkboard. I don't even know what that is.

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01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: It's a kuci couci board. No, a charcucci board.

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: Charcoterie board, not too okay, watch your language over here,

1510
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: My goodness.

1511
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 4: I don't know what charcooterie board.

1512
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, platter of food that includes cured meats. I know

1513
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: what a charcooterie board is.

1514
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 4: Well, that's what a shark board is.

1515
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: Okay, so he said, I guess it's like a short.

1516
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: It's a nickname for it.

1517
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: I got it, followed with lots of beers. He's from

1518
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Florida with love ps. It's sixty five here. Oh beef,

1519
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: you were going so good and then you have to

1520
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: dump that on us. Not cool merit for that, But

1521
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm all up. I'm all about the smoke, Guda, bacon

1522
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: and cheese. Holy cow, that sounds good. Ryan says Pina

1523
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: Coladas by the pool in Saint Lucia on my honeymoon.

1524
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 4: Way to go.

1525
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 16: Congratulations, they've got a awesome I was in Saint Lucia

1526
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 16: probably about it getting five years ago now, and uh,

1527
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 16: they've got a local lagger beer there that's pretty good

1528
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 16: and I'm not going to remember it.

1529
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: It's not Red Stripe, which is from Jamaica. Is another

1530
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: one down there, and it's pretty good.

1531
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 3: Now.

1532
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: I can't remember it because.

1533
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: I wonder are they getting married like tomorrow.

1534
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: Well or on their honeymoon. He's already married.

1535
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: He's on his honeymoon. Yeah, so he's on his honeymoon right.

1536
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: Now in Saint Lucia.

1537
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't That doesn't make that clear. He said.

1538
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 4: He's this is like Sunday, not today.

1539
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think they're already on their honeymoon and

1540
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: they'll be down there for this.

1541
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 4: Congratulations Ryan and whoever your bride is.

1542
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: That's right, Jack says, planning on heading to a buddy's

1543
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: house for this one. So I don't have to create

1544
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: the spread, but as a dish to pass, making the

1545
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: buffalo mainstay chicken wing dip, my secret is adding a

1546
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: teaspoon of hot honey for extra zip and keep it

1547
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: in the crockpot to stay warm throughout.

1548
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: That's a veteran move there, crockpott. It keeps everything.

1549
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: Like if you've got to go to somebody's house with

1550
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: a dish to pass and you're you're worried about it

1551
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: staying warm, make it in the crockpot because it will

1552
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 2: stay warm. And then you can even bring your heater

1553
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: with you to plug it in and keep it warm

1554
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: at the destination. So especially chicken wing did which people

1555
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: are going to kind of pick that throughout.

1556
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 4: The crockpot in You don't have to bring a heater.

1557
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 4: What are you talking about bringing a heater?

1558
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 1: I know, but some people take.

1559
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: The pot out of the heater and just bring the

1560
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: pot with them, bring the heat and bring the whole thing.

1561
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: Bring it, Elizabeth says, Detroit style pizza and wings. So,

1562
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: going with the theme of the visiting city.

1563
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: What what is Detroit pizza? How does it differ?

1564
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: So it's rectangular in nature. Whole pie is actually a rectangle. No,

1565
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, but tomato sauce is the overriding

1566
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: ingredient to the point where a lot of people. Actually,

1567
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: I think I have this right, and people.

1568
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: Can correct me.

1569
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 4: It's a pan pizza. Somebody's saying, it's.

1570
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: Kind of like a pan pizza.

1571
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: Yes, but they put the cheese on the bottom and

1572
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: they layer sauce over.

1573
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 4: The cheese over the Oh, so it's reversed.

1574
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind it's like an upside down pizza. Sometimes not

1575
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: every Detroit pizza like that, but most of them are.

1576
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 4: I grew up in the out in the middle of

1577
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 4: the country in Kansas, and so the pizza out there

1578
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: was horrible. Well, no, it's hard to make a horrible pizza,

1579
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: but that's true. But you got New York style, Chicago style,

1580
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: Detroit style, you know, so we don't know these things now.

1581
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 4: New York pizza, I know, it's like the size of

1582
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: a wheel, and it's the huge slices and it's and

1583
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 4: it's also it's it's not crispy.

1584
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: It's crispy on the bottom if they're made it right.

1585
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: Well, does it stand up when you hold it? Hold it?

1586
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: That's why you hold it.

1587
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: But it doesn't though it does not. It's not crispy

1588
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 4: enough that they'll stand up by itself if you hold

1589
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: the end of it. That's correct, right, So that's New

1590
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 4: York style and whatever topping you put on it. Find

1591
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 4: there's also Boston style pin it's also very thin.

1592
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: Yes, there's also Boston style pizza, which is thinner than

1593
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: New York pizza. Okay, it's almost it's almost like pizza

1594
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: on maza. So if you're familiar with mazza bread, it's

1595
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: almost thin like that. And that is very crispy and

1596
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: will stand on it.

1597
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 4: So I went to Chicago. I went to Northwestern University

1598
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 4: in Chicago, so I know what Chicago style is. It's

1599
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 4: like it's like pizza lasagna.

1600
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: That's right, it's very like.

1601
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 4: It's huge. It's thick. It's like two inches two and

1602
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 4: a half inches thick.

1603
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: The dough has no hope of supporting anything.

1604
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 4: It's not Yeah, you don't eat it with your hands.

1605
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: That's they can't you don't eat support knife pizza. Yeah,

1606
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 4: and what's this and Detroit?

1607
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 10: Is this?

1608
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 4: It's just square?

1609
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a rectangical pan?

1610
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? What is that? Do we run the gamut here

1611
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 4: for the pizza?

1612
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna have wings to Elizabeth Is.

1613
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 4: So that's buffalo wings though, right.

1614
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: Well are there any other kind?

1615
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: That's right?

1616
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: So there we go.

1617
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 2: All right, So that's Tailgate Friday. Good job everybody, some

1618
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: excellent submissions. I'm really yeah that is That was a

1619
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: dynamite list this week for an away game.

1620
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: No less.

1621
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: Usually we get the better recipes for the home games,

1622
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, that was probably our best road game showing

1623
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: for Tailgate Friday.

1624
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so far got this family in Detroit, so it's

1625
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 4: gonna be a gathering over I'm not gonna go, but

1626
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 4: everybody's gathering over there this time across the lake. Be fun.

1627
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people making that drive cutting through

1628
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: southern Ontario because it's shorter to go there.

1629
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 4: This is this is a marquee game and the Bills

1630
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 4: have played in.

1631
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the weather or anything.

1632
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 4: Ford Field is a little nice if you want to

1633
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 4: this is it's interesting because but you know Detroit, Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago,

1634
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 4: Green Bay. You know it's the great lake cities. You

1635
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 4: get a feel for it, kind of feels familiar when

1636
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: you get there, right, and this will be an interesting

1637
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 4: indoor stadium. I don't know if anybody in Buffalo, if

1638
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: you have, you can say it because a lot of people

1639
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 4: do make the trip trip over when Buffalo has a

1640
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 4: relocated game in Detroit. Very different atmosphere here post I

1641
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 4: mean out tailgating it because it's a downtown indoor game and.

1642
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Have acres of parking lots around the station right in

1643
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: the city.

1644
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 4: There's none of the atmosphere outside the stadium, right, people

1645
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 4: park and go in.

1646
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: It's different.

1647
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

1648
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones though on this obl

1649
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag and get some questions answered.

1650
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Here we go to butcher on the east side.

1651
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: What he got for his butcher And please be brief

1652
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: because we've got people behind you here.

1653
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: I already know.

1654
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 10: Thanks so much. I love him asage you love w

1655
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 10: Jennis fans, I love you. Let me get right into it.

1656
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 10: First of all, this is a very crucial game. It's

1657
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 10: gonna be a different game. It's gonna be crucial. You

1658
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 10: just diet Us talk in the coatail and he really

1659
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 10: hit some points. Number one is offensively, we planned the

1660
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 10: teams that were playing. You've planned against a four down team.

1661
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 10: So I mean a while ago I told Steve and

1662
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 10: you guys about ten yards at a time. Ten yards

1663
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 10: just ten yards. It's different when you plan against the

1664
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 10: team it's a four down team for ten yard. Against

1665
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 10: the team that's a three down seat for ten yard.

1666
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 10: Their coach of goquot on fourth down. So the play calling,

1667
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 10: you might think it's third and eight and you might

1668
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 10: think you might drop back and path they might run

1669
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 10: the ball because they guaranteed to go for it on board.

1670
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 10: That's a difference. Secondly, it's about that twelve package. He

1671
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 10: was actually a cochel about when he said about they

1672
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 10: run the same thing, and.

1673
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 9: What's the difference.

1674
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 10: The difference is is that Detroit uses their backs in

1675
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 10: the twelve packages, like on screens and draws more than

1676
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 10: what we do. We do it for more, more for

1677
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 10: extra pass protection, and every now and then we are

1678
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 10: running the ball there. Thirdly is that you know defensively,

1679
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 10: you know we have to tighten up on that four

1680
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 10: four man front to push them out, push golf outside

1681
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 10: to Roussou, push them outside to Miller to make so

1682
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 10: they can make plays instead of lead gas where they

1683
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 10: can slice us in dices right up the middle. Now,

1684
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 10: last but not least, and I appreciate you taking my call,

1685
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 10: is that I believe Ingram is going to have an

1686
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 10: outstanding game. We went back to to talk about about

1687
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 10: the older players and the younger players getting opportunity to play.

1688
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 10: I think Ingram is gonna is going to show that,

1689
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 10: you know, if we move on for Russou, I mean,

1690
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 10: I mean Russell Douglas next year, that he could be

1691
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 10: one of the guys that they could talk about. And

1692
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 10: the last, but not least, is I gotta honor somebody

1693
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 10: who does the job that can go out on their

1694
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 10: own times. Bill Belichick to me is always respect him

1695
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 10: as a coach, but to be able to dictate at

1696
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 10: seventy two years old, you're following your father's footsteps. You

1697
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 10: got your son go following your footsteps. At the same time,

1698
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 10: you're gonna change college football to like you signed Lobardi

1699
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 10: as a general manager in a college level. The program

1700
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 10: is great and last week at least Brownie, you was

1701
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 10: speaking about Jamaican beer is either Dragon Stout or Royal

1702
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 10: Jamaica added to the retch, right, But I love each overy.

1703
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 10: When Happy Friday, Ronnie, dude, I'm gonna be listening to you,

1704
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 10: keep doing your thing like you do, bro, And I

1705
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 10: can't wait if you listen to you in the game.

1706
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 10: I love you, see and again I love the host staff.

1707
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks, BOYD. Appreciate that.

1708
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1709
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: Uh, they do things differently in Detroit. I mean they're

1710
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: not afraid to play the most physical brand of football.

1711
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams that might pause to play

1712
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: as physical as they do because that's tough to do

1713
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: for a seventeen game regular season and then a playoff

1714
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: run on top of it. It's a lot of wear

1715
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: and tear on the bodies. But clearly coach Campbell feels

1716
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: his roster is young enough, can recover enough, and can

1717
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: play the same way all the way throughout.

1718
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: We'll see and.

1719
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 4: That'll go forth. Go listen. There's nothing is as contagious

1720
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 4: as a go forward attitude on a football team, particularly

1721
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 4: coming from the head coach. Their players are on it,

1722
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 4: they're general managers on it, even their ownership. I mean

1723
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: their fans. Everybody says, yeah, we're the go for it team,

1724
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 4: and it's contagious. I get it. It's easy to get behind,

1725
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: and particularly now that they've kind of gotten over that,

1726
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, they lost an NFC championship game on a

1727
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: fourth down go for it. They're kind of over that.

1728
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 4: Now they're on it and they don't care. They know

1729
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 4: that they're not going to make all of them. And

1730
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 4: it's a tough thing to play against. That's a mentality

1731
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 4: that you have to contend with. And it does. Butcher's right.

1732
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 4: It does affect play calling, both offensively and defensively on

1733
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: your opponent and yours. The play selection on the run

1734
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 4: up to fourth down and no one on third and

1735
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 4: second and third down that, yeah, they may go, we

1736
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: may be up against four downs here. So it does

1737
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 4: change the dynamics and the mentality of the game, no

1738
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 4: question about it. And and you're right. We talked a

1739
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 4: little bit about Bill Belichick yesterday about him going to

1740
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 4: North Carolina to be their head coach and hiring Lombardi

1741
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 4: as as this gim as GM. I think it's one

1742
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 4: of the most interesting stories in football, uh and it

1743
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 4: will be this offseason. It's big and I'm.

1744
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Not sure he knows everything he's gotten himself into though maybe.

1745
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he's talked to Nick Saban, his

1746
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: good friend, sure, former colleague. Hey what am I getting

1747
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: myself into here? I mean Saban pulled the ripcord himself

1748
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 2: because he's like, I can't do this.

1749
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 4: Not the nil the nil stuff came in and Saban

1750
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 4: gave it a year or two and he's like, I'm

1751
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 4: in no way, and Belichick's jumping into it. I think

1752
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 4: it's really interesting. And it's like I said, You're coaching

1753
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 4: is a lifestyle, and Belichick won't give that lifestyle up.

1754
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here.

1755
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: We'll try to squeeze a phone call or too in

1756
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: when we come back here on one Bill's Live Stay

1757
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: with us to Victory, presented by a wall Eyecare, the

1758
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: official eye care provider of the Buffalo Bills.

1759
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I'll let Steve take a crack at this first. What

1760
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: do you think?

1761
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 4: Here's what the team that is gonna win this game

1762
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 4: is the one that's gonna control the time of possession

1763
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 4: better without making the mistakes like a turnover. Obviously, penalties

1764
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 4: and that kind of stuff are gonna be a factor.

1765
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 4: In this but it's gonna be which offense controls the football.

1766
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 4: The longest time of possession is gonna be huge in

1767
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 4: this game. The Detroit Lions are gonna want to keep

1768
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 4: Josh Allen in this offense off the field, and vice versa. Josh,

1769
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: he's gonna want to stay on the field as long

1770
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: as he can, and you gotta finish. That's going to

1771
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 4: be the key to this game for me. This is

1772
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: going to be a one point game. It's gonna be

1773
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 4: one of those unless something happens late.

1774
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's got to I was just gonna

1775
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: say it's probably similar in nature, but I was just

1776
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: going to say, be the better team on third down

1777
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. I know that team

1778
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: goes for it on fourth down, but usually it's got

1779
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: to be fourth and three or less for Campbell to

1780
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: go for it. Let's squeeze. In a phone call, we

1781
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: go to Mark in New Jersey. What's up Mark?

1782
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Mark?

1783
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 8: You there?

1784
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 9: Oh?

1785
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 12: Hello?

1786
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: Sorry?

1787
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 9: Thanks taking my call, guys. The defensive backfield for both

1788
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 9: teams I think is pretty paramount. I also wanted to

1789
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 9: get your guys take on who's gonna step in Elam

1790
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 9: or Ingram they draw a lot of penalties over there,

1791
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 9: and the refs that's the head ref for this game,

1792
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 9: throws a lot of them. I think their top three

1793
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 9: dbs to lead their team in penalties. I think twenty

1794
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 9: four accepted penalties for over three hundred yards. I think

1795
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 9: Terry On Arnold has the most defensive pass interferences in

1796
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 9: the league. So this this game, Yeah, this game is

1797
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 9: going to be wild in terms of it's probably gonna

1798
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 9: drive you crazy. Call on at CV, but it's going

1799
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 9: to be pretty crazy with that, and I think that's

1800
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 9: where the game is going to be won and lost

1801
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 9: both of them. I think the four down team thing

1802
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 9: works for both teams. I think Campbell is kind of

1803
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 9: a He's a hard charging guy. He knows one gear

1804
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 9: and he's just going to think about that game they

1805
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 9: played in twenty two where they lost on a late

1806
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 9: field goal, and he's going to remember that decision where

1807
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 9: he kicked the field goal. I think they were in

1808
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 9: fourth and short situation. Yeah, and they kicked the field

1809
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 9: goal and the Allen hits digs for that forty yarder

1810
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 9: and we know what happens. I think that's he's gonna

1811
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 9: remember that. I think that's going to play this decision making.

1812
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 9: That's how he goes.

1813
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, we got to Unfortunately we're out of time.

1814
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: I got to cut you loose. But thanks for the call. Yeah,

1815
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean good stuff. Steve said it's going to be

1816
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: a tight game. I tend to think he's right about that.

1817
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: And yes, Adrian Hill. The ref calls a lot of

1818
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: pass interference penalties, both defensive and offensive. Hopefully it doesn't

1819
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: mar the game. Enjoy the game we'll see on Monday

1820
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: at noon