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Speaker 4: We've got a lot of news to talk about today, y'all.
Speaker 4: We've got na Shawn Right will get to CD in
Speaker 4: our next segment, but nay Shaun Wright being traded to
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings for a second.
Speaker 5: Rounder in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.
Speaker 4: Andrew Booth, I'll start with Christy first, just kind of
Speaker 4: what was like the atmosphere a little bit and no
Speaker 4: one practice. There were kind of words about it, but
Speaker 4: the news just hadn't been broken yet. But what would
Speaker 4: you got to say the you know, atmosphere of practice
Speaker 4: was like after not seeing nay Shaw.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, well, it's like, hm, was there an injury
Speaker 8: that we didn't know about that happened in the joint
Speaker 8: practice with the Rams yesterday? And we'll detail some of
Speaker 8: the things we saw about the joint practice later. But
Speaker 8: it's not an usual for things to happen like this
Speaker 8: at this point of camp. In fact, I remember it
Speaker 8: would have been back in twenty eighteen. We had a
Speaker 8: preseason game mid August in Houston.
Speaker 9: We're at Energy Stadium and I'm standing on the sideline
Speaker 9: and I'm.
Speaker 8: In Charverius Ward, who's this rookie cornerback, and he's standing
Speaker 8: next to me instead of going through warmups.
Speaker 9: It's like what's going on?
Speaker 8: And then he walked off and I walk up to
Speaker 8: Will McLay and I said, what's up. Was Tarverius injured
Speaker 8: or what's going on? I said, no, we just traded
Speaker 8: him to the Kansas City Chiefs. So the guy shows
Speaker 8: up at the stadium thinking that he's going to play
Speaker 8: a game and he ends up being traded.
Speaker 9: So that's probably what happened with Wright.
Speaker 8: He probably found out this morning or midday, maybe even
Speaker 8: last night, but on his way to Minnesota. So I
Speaker 8: think for Andrew Booth, as Nicole mentioned as a player,
Speaker 8: a high draft pick by the Vikings out of Clemson,
Speaker 8: a highly recruited athlete, five star, top ten recruit in
Speaker 8: the nation going into Clemson, and I think for both
Speaker 8: of these players, it's the same position, different body type.
Speaker 8: We'll talk more about that as we go along, but
Speaker 8: it can be a fresh start for both of them
Speaker 8: because I think that both, you know, it became a
Speaker 8: parent that maybe they weren't able to, you know, like.
Speaker 5: Hit their threshold.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they hit their threshold in Nashwan. He did get
Speaker 8: those first team reps in place of Trayvon Diggs, and
Speaker 8: obviously through the first couple of weeks of camp that
Speaker 8: I guess the staff obviously didn't think that he was
Speaker 8: able to take full advantage of that. And so let's
Speaker 8: see if he can have success in Minnesota, and let's
Speaker 8: see a talented guide like Booth once he gets here,
Speaker 8: how he fits in with a Zimmer's system, and get
Speaker 8: Al Harris to get him coached up, and let's see what.
Speaker 5: He can do a asia.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So two things about this trade. Number one, I think
Speaker 7: this is a fresh start for both of these gentlemen
Speaker 7: to get into different schemes and see if they fit.
Speaker 6: But number two, this has a lot to do with what.
Speaker 7: The Cowboys have seen from Kayln Carson. He's done most
Speaker 7: of his work on the outside our hairs.
Speaker 6: So you got to Christy's.
Speaker 7: Point, has done a great job with this second, Deary,
Speaker 7: I mean to see Kaylen Carson coming and to man
Speaker 7: that outside spot in Trayvon Diggs's absence this camp, it's
Speaker 7: been impressive and we saw some good things from him
Speaker 7: on the in the scrimmage yesterday. This he and I
Speaker 7: just I think that Booth is just more of a
Speaker 7: scheme fit for some of the things that Zimmer likes
Speaker 7: to do currently.
Speaker 6: Right now, he wants to.
Speaker 7: He wants guys that are okay with pressing, he wants
Speaker 7: guys that are okay with being very physical with their
Speaker 7: hands tackling.
Speaker 6: And also to.
Speaker 7: Booth brings some special teams ability, which I think the
Speaker 7: little bit that we have seen ladies from preseason, there
Speaker 7: are gonna be opportunities there for special teams for some of.
Speaker 6: These guys to get a roster spot.
Speaker 7: So I think, well, yeah, because of the way that
Speaker 7: it's set up now, in the way that it's done,
Speaker 7: so I do think that the this gentleman being brought
Speaker 7: over Andrew Bruth has a lot to do with what
Speaker 7: Kayln Carson has been doing and how well he's looked
Speaker 7: at camp. But also too, because Kayln Carson has played
Speaker 7: outside so much, you still haven't really established another backup
Speaker 7: nickel besides Deron Bland, who we know is also doing
Speaker 7: outside stuff because your Lewis has come to play, So
Speaker 7: Andrew Booth possibly has some ability to do some nickel
Speaker 7: things as well. I think it's a good fit and
Speaker 7: his temperament fits the bill, so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 7: And good for these two gentlemen to have fresh starts
Speaker 7: and start over and figure things out.
Speaker 2: Well, I have to get it out of my system
Speaker 2: and say that's right one more time.
Speaker 6: She I was, I didn't know what was happening just then.
Speaker 2: I was so sad. You know, any pun, any pun
Speaker 2: like Navy, you don't have to take advantage of it,
Speaker 2: that's right. But you know what I was really noticing,
Speaker 2: and while you're on it about special teams that you
Speaker 2: should was watching the preseason game and kind of watching
Speaker 2: more of the scrimmage, uh, and kind of how these
Speaker 2: special teams rules are playing out, and kind of the
Speaker 2: body types that are needed for this. I'm just comparing
Speaker 2: the two Nayshon write about six four to two hundred
Speaker 2: pounds Andrew Booth about six feet and then one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety four pounds. So it's interesting to see like
Speaker 2: the size differentiation because I feel like you're gonna need
Speaker 2: a bigger body there. But special teams could be a
Speaker 2: make or break for a guy like this. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you're coming in fresh off of a trade, you're
Speaker 2: coming in to a new scheme, a new team. What
Speaker 2: you want to do, if you're Booth at this point
Speaker 2: is you need to make an early impression. And how
Speaker 2: do you do that while you go in there and
Speaker 2: you be a sponge, you be ready to learn. I
Speaker 2: feel like for a guy like this not going to
Speaker 2: be an issue. But if that means you learn on
Speaker 2: special teams and you make your standout moment be then
Speaker 2: then you do what you can do, because you're kind
Speaker 2: of at a slight disadvantage if you will, being where
Speaker 2: he is, coming in to a new scheme kind of
Speaker 2: learning as everybody learns, that could be an advantage and
Speaker 2: upper hand there, but overall, coming in a little bit
Speaker 2: later when everybody else, especially the newer guys, have had
Speaker 2: the last few weeks to acclimate at training camp. So
Speaker 2: for me, what I want to see is the big play,
Speaker 2: and I want to see that big play happening quickly
Speaker 2: for him, whether it be in preseason games or in
Speaker 2: training camp here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: Nicole really quickly.
Speaker 5: I wanted to say, go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I wanted to say that he has been at camp,
Speaker 7: so that transition him being in football shape shouldn't be
Speaker 7: a problem.
Speaker 6: Number one, and also.
Speaker 7: Too, when he played in Clemson, they run a lot
Speaker 7: of zone scheme and we're starting to see we got
Speaker 7: to see in that scrimmage we've been hearing about the
Speaker 7: hearing the offensive players talk about the disguises and some
Speaker 7: of the things that Zimmer likes to do. So when
Speaker 7: you talk about scheme, Jess, I do think that him
Speaker 7: being able to comprehend the scheme, he might be at
Speaker 7: a little bit of an advantage because he has playing
Speaker 7: in a heavily zoned scheme, but he also can do
Speaker 7: some things in man.
Speaker 4: How soon do you all kind of see Andrew Booth
Speaker 4: just maybe more obviously only be used more as a
Speaker 4: death piece, but how soon do you feel like you
Speaker 4: guys could see him potentially, you know, producing for this team,
Speaker 4: this defense.
Speaker 8: Do you mean as early as like the Sunday getting
Speaker 8: to or just in terms of stepping in steping in. Well,
Speaker 8: let's hope that we don't have to see a lot
Speaker 8: of them once we get to the regular season, because
Speaker 8: it means that something's happened that Trayvon isn't ready, you know, one,
Speaker 8: getting a full you know, all of his normal game
Speaker 8: reps that he would get as he's coming back from
Speaker 8: his knee injury.
Speaker 9: It's going to be.
Speaker 8: Interesting to see if Booth how many practice reps he'll
Speaker 8: get the remaining part of training camp and the preseason
Speaker 8: games if he does work inside, because I think I
Speaker 8: usually made a great point about at the nickel, because
Speaker 8: what we're going.
Speaker 9: To see a lot in the first couple of.
Speaker 8: Preseason games is a guy named Keimen Hall who's University
Speaker 8: of North Texas, so.
Speaker 9: Mean green, go mean green.
Speaker 8: But he's been working behind Jordan Lewis in the nickel mostly,
Speaker 8: and so Israel Mukuamu was doing a lot of that
Speaker 8: earlier in camp, but Israel's missed this week, been practiced
Speaker 8: because of a groin injury. So I think we're going
Speaker 8: to see a lot of number forty three Halls, so
Speaker 8: get ready for that.
Speaker 9: But if Booth were able to.
Speaker 8: Take some of those reps and work work in, that
Speaker 8: would be something. And in regards to I just want
Speaker 8: to follow up on something because Jess said about want
Speaker 8: to see him make plays. That's what Canlin Carson did
Speaker 8: yesterday with the interception that he made yesterday. I mean
Speaker 8: he cut, he made a break on that ball a
Speaker 8: la Duron Bland and tray Von Diggs, and so if
Speaker 8: he can take what he did in that joint practice
Speaker 8: going against the top guys for the Rams and do
Speaker 8: it against the second and third teamers in preseason, then
Speaker 8: his confidence it's just going to grow and and you know,
Speaker 8: reinforce what he's already been putting on the field here
Speaker 8: in the training camp practices.
Speaker 6: Asian, Uh yeah, I agree. I mean that's the thing
Speaker 6: for me is the fact that oh Tater tots.
Speaker 7: That's the thing for me is the fact is the
Speaker 7: fact that this this team and the way that they're
Speaker 7: using these guys. As far as like Doron Bland, it
Speaker 7: feels like he's going to be an outside corner. It's
Speaker 7: just that's what it feels like. But Jordan lewis having
Speaker 7: a camp that he has had. I think that nickel
Speaker 7: hit spot is his and he seems comfortable in this scheme.
Speaker 7: There needs to be a backup Nickel and so to me,
Speaker 7: I think you're lacking more and will you have more depth.
Speaker 6: On the outside. Hopefully maybe he can come in and
Speaker 6: do that.
Speaker 7: But again, as I mentioned, the special teams experience could
Speaker 7: be the way that he finds his way on the field.
Speaker 7: It could be the way that he figures things out
Speaker 7: during preseason and makes an impression on this team to
Speaker 7: maybe get on the field.
Speaker 6: A little bit more.
Speaker 2: Tis waiting for my cue.
Speaker 6: I'm trying.
Speaker 2: We're trying to work on our cues here a little
Speaker 2: bit together. We're all in this together. But I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, piggybacking off of you should his point about
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, what you're seeing is a healthy Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 2: who last year was rehabbing from a horrific foot injury,
Speaker 2: who barely you know, caught his Uh what, sorry, Jesse,
Speaker 2: he's talking my ear. I thought she was telling me something. Wow, Sorry,
Speaker 2: I lost my train of thought there. What you're saying
Speaker 2: is that Jordan Lewis, who finally caught caught up to
Speaker 2: where he had for himself in his expectations towards the
Speaker 2: tail end of last season, right before playoffs, and you
Speaker 2: started to see those pass breakups, very very full flashes
Speaker 2: of Jordan Lewis and what he's best at. And the
Speaker 2: thing about Jordan Lewis is he's very opening, candid about
Speaker 2: everything with anybody who wants to go have a conversation
Speaker 2: with him. He's very honest, and he was very honest
Speaker 2: through his recovery journey that it was very difficult to
Speaker 2: come back from. And you know, part of that journey
Speaker 2: to come back is a mental journey as well, and
Speaker 2: he said, you know, if it wasn't for the other
Speaker 2: guys he was rehabbing with during the year, like Terrence
Speaker 2: Still and Tony Pollard, he really would have struggled more.
Speaker 2: So what you're seeing now from Jordan Lewis is a
Speaker 2: full fledged Jordan Lewis who's healthy again and who got
Speaker 2: over that mental hurdle. So anytime you can see a
Speaker 2: player do that, especially coming back from the injury that
Speaker 2: he did, man, it's such a feel good moment for
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, and I know he's just excited about it
Speaker 2: and celebrating with all of those guys that overcame the injuries,
Speaker 2: especially you know, his injury buddy, Terrence Steele, who is
Speaker 2: also having a better kid because he's feeling better. Right,
Speaker 2: So seeing that it also energizes the guys around him.
Speaker 2: Energizes a Deron Bland, energizes a tray Von Diggs when
Speaker 2: all of your unit is healthy, ready to go. And
Speaker 2: so no doubt that, Kaylen Carson, Man Christy, you were
Speaker 2: mentioning him and I'm chomping at the bitch to talk
Speaker 2: about him. So I'll wait until we get into that conversation.
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is I don't want to be
Speaker 2: an opposing quarterback. I'm going to decide where I want
Speaker 2: to throw those DB's this season. No, thank you, y'all.
Speaker 4: Want to know something funny, So yesterday I actually asked
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott on the podium. I was like, hey, like,
Speaker 4: you know, what's your first impressions on Kayln Carson because
Speaker 4: he had a pick on Jimmy g And he was
Speaker 4: like who. And I'm like, I saw Kayln Carson and
Speaker 4: he was like who. And I'm like, dude, like, there's
Speaker 4: no way you can makee me like a little crazy
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: I was used.
Speaker 4: He goes, oh, wait, walk in seat belt. Yep, they
Speaker 4: only know him as seatbelt Carson.
Speaker 5: I said, that's insane.
Speaker 8: Like hmm okay, cool, got it for receive receiver, not
Speaker 8: going anywhere locked down like a seatbelt crazy.
Speaker 4: So he's already made a name for himself, especially with hey,
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott and what who better than them?
Speaker 5: Make your name with your your quarterback?
Speaker 8: Right It's like when Brandon Aubrey got the nickname Butter
Speaker 8: from Dak last year.
Speaker 9: That's like an honor when you've arrived, is.
Speaker 8: When is when you're getting the the you know, nicknames
Speaker 8: from the all pros on the on the team.
Speaker 5: You one last thing.
Speaker 8: Regarding Andrew Booth just to kind of follow up with
Speaker 8: the numbers on the special teams because you're riding he's
Speaker 8: going to be active on game day. Then this so
Speaker 8: last year over one hundred and twenty snaps on special teams.
Speaker 8: So obviously a core special teams player for Minnesota, even
Speaker 8: though he wasn't getting the def andive snaps in his
Speaker 8: second year, it's seventeen games just once start, only one
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty defensive snaps, but over one hundred and
Speaker 8: twenty special team snaps. So yes, bringing him here and
Speaker 8: hopes that he can be one of the core special teams.
Speaker 4: Guys, I've got to add something, Sorr. I'll ask you,
Speaker 4: guys something about Nayseean Wright. Do y'all feel like it
Speaker 4: was just his time to go and you know, maybe
Speaker 4: possibly flourish somewhere else, because I feel like that was
Speaker 4: kind of how this team felt a little bit.
Speaker 5: I U sh'all start with you this time.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's a mixture of a couple of things.
Speaker 6: I mean, new coaching.
Speaker 7: Staff, new scheme, draft period, get to draft your guys,
Speaker 7: get to draft the guys to think you know fit
Speaker 7: And like I said before, we can't talk about it anymore.
Speaker 7: Kayln Carson coming in here and showing what he could
Speaker 7: do really put that changed that conversation to me and
Speaker 7: what they're really looking for. I like I said before,
Speaker 7: I think it's just a good fresh start for him.
Speaker 7: It was just it just felt like every year he
Speaker 7: was always and waiting Keith special teamer.
Speaker 6: That's something to note.
Speaker 7: Of course, so but just it just never really connected
Speaker 7: for him. He never really got a shot just because
Speaker 7: of the other guys they had on this team, bron
Speaker 7: and Stefan Gilmour last year. You know, it's just every
Speaker 7: time he would get some momentum, something would happen or
Speaker 7: I just didn't think. I personally just feel like the
Speaker 7: scheme fit is the difference right now, and so hopefully
Speaker 7: he can go do some things there.
Speaker 2: Yeah and Minnchelta, Yeah, good for him. New Man on
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, as Lizzo once said, but.
Speaker 9: She needs to go to jail.
Speaker 2: I missed you guys, you're gonna say, but literally new
Speaker 2: Man on the Minnesota Vikings Honestly, here's the thing is,
Speaker 2: I think players like nay Sean who don't get the
Speaker 2: opportunity that other guys do or maybe you know, are
Speaker 2: always kind of overlooked. It's not a bad idea to
Speaker 2: go somewhere new, and when you come from the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: you're looked at differently instantly because you have that, You've
Speaker 2: warned the star, You understand and what it is to
Speaker 2: be a football player in this league, and one for
Speaker 2: a really hard team to play for, as far as
Speaker 2: the limelight, the media, you know, just the scheme, the
Speaker 2: everything that comes with the territory of being a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2: So you're looked at differently. When you go to other teams,
Speaker 2: you're respected, You're you know, you're kind of looked upon
Speaker 2: for advice, especially by younger players. And at least that's
Speaker 2: what I've gathered from, you know, players that have gone
Speaker 2: to other teams. But I think for nay Sean, a
Speaker 2: fresh start is not a bad thing. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think, uh, how do I say this. I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think with what he had, he was going
Speaker 2: to get any more opportunities this season because you have
Speaker 2: a walking seat belt coming in making a name for
Speaker 2: himself this early in camp. That's only going to get
Speaker 2: better with a little bit more polishing by Al Harris
Speaker 2: and the rest of the coaching staff on the.
Speaker 7: Defense, ladies, really quick, can I ask, with this going
Speaker 7: on and Nashan Wright being a gentleman that was a
Speaker 7: part of the other regime as well, how has Eric
Speaker 7: Scott to you ladies out there, Because you know, he's
Speaker 7: another guy that we don't talk about as much. He
Speaker 7: came in last year, was a late round pick. We
Speaker 7: didn't see him really at all last year, was inactive
Speaker 7: quite a few times.
Speaker 6: What do you ladies, What have you ladies seen from.
Speaker 7: Him that maybe kept him out of these even this
Speaker 7: type of conversation.
Speaker 4: I think he's competing. Al Harris was actually asked this
Speaker 4: a couple of days ago when the coordinators talked, and
Speaker 4: he's competing, well, I just don't think that he has
Speaker 4: that that ballhawk mentality just yet, like a Kaylon Carson,
Speaker 4: like Deron Bland, Trey Ron Diggs. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: that he's doing a very good job for right now.
Speaker 4: When you see guys like him going up against Jayalen Tolbert,
Speaker 4: he's not as fast right, and I think that that's
Speaker 4: something that he kind of lacks a little bit. I
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe if I'm not seeing the same thing, Christy,
Speaker 4: what are you thinking?
Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting because with Right, you know, actually Eric's
Speaker 8: wanted the bigger corners on your roster. Now it's six
Speaker 8: foot two because because Wright was one of at six
Speaker 8: foot four. You know, there was that thing where the
Speaker 8: the they were drafting guys, you know, the bigger body type.
Speaker 9: So it's what the coordinators.
Speaker 8: And what you know, with the with the coaches want
Speaker 8: the scouts work in conjunction with them, and so that's
Speaker 8: kind of the body type that they were going after.
Speaker 9: But in regards for Eric Scott, oh my.
Speaker 8: Gosh, this Sunday could be huge for him because he's
Speaker 8: moved up the depth chart de facto because Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 8: isn't going to play uh in the preseason games and
Speaker 8: uh with Wright out of here, and you know, you
Speaker 8: doubt that that that the that the new guy that
Speaker 8: Booth you know, may not play on Sunday since he
Speaker 8: will just be you know, finding his way.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 8: Still maybe he'll be fitted for his uniform by them.
Speaker 8: But you get my point, he'll be new. So this
Speaker 8: is a golden opportunity for Eric Scott. And right when
Speaker 8: you say didn't have the opportunities he did this year,
Speaker 8: he did in the can't get in first team reps
Speaker 8: and unfortunately he wasn't able to take advantage of it.
Speaker 8: So now it's Eric Scott's turn, at least for a
Speaker 8: couple days, maybe just this game where he gets more
Speaker 8: than he would so he better. You know, it's put
Speaker 8: up her, shut up times, you know, show what you
Speaker 8: can do. He has made some strides definitely in practice,
Speaker 8: but can he put that forward and will it manifest
Speaker 8: itself on game day?
Speaker 9: That's what he has to answer. That's the question he
Speaker 9: has to answer.
Speaker 5: I like that put up or shut up?
Speaker 6: Well, Hey, the NFL's.
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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones speaking to the media, and something that kind
Speaker 4: of made its way to social media was that he
Speaker 4: said that there was no sense of urgency when trying
Speaker 4: to get that contract done with cd Lamb.
Speaker 5: But Ceedee Lamb took the.
Speaker 4: Social media quote, tweeted the tweet Lol, A whole bunch
Speaker 4: of Shenanigan's going on. But Cowboys Executive vice president Stephen
Speaker 4: Jones mentioned on a podcast that, you know, there's zero
Speaker 4: thoughts about not having Ceedee Lamb on this team here
Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Christy, let's just start with you with the whole noise.
Speaker 4: How was kind of like the with that whole thing happening,
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts about Yeah, well.
Speaker 8: If you just hear the SoundBite or just read the quote,
Speaker 8: you know, not a sense of urgency. Please take it
Speaker 8: in context, because as part of this conversation coming off
Speaker 8: the practice field after the joint practice with the Rams
Speaker 8: Jerry's and it's not the first thing that was asked.
Speaker 9: He was talking about a lot of different.
Speaker 8: Things, but among them how Jalen Tolbert and players like
Speaker 8: that are able to take advantage of their opportunities and
Speaker 8: see these absence and get work with the ones.
Speaker 9: So in context the.
Speaker 8: Urgency, of course, he wants to get CD signed, but
Speaker 8: he was trying to allude to the fact that if
Speaker 8: there's a silver lining in this is that young guys
Speaker 8: are getting work that they would not get if CD
Speaker 8: were here.
Speaker 9: So that's the context. But how did it play?
Speaker 8: I think it played very poorly because fans are still
Speaker 8: mad about the perceived lack of urgency and free agency,
Speaker 8: and so I'm curious, Jess and Aisha, I shall start
Speaker 8: with you.
Speaker 9: We're out here and we're not hearing.
Speaker 8: The same amount of drum beat from the fans as
Speaker 8: you guys are there in North Texas and heart a
Speaker 8: Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 9: Did it play back home.
Speaker 2: Oh we played all right? Oh yeah, I mean it played.
Speaker 2: That's all I've heard about all day.
Speaker 7: Twitter has been in what we call the shambles.
Speaker 6: Shambles and I mean and and here's my sam and
Speaker 6: here's my thing.
Speaker 5: Christy.
Speaker 7: I so you're you're a lot more knowledgeable than most
Speaker 7: of us on the show in regard to contracts and
Speaker 7: how these things work, timelines, et cetera. But I do
Speaker 7: understand some of the fans frustration with the fact that
Speaker 7: this feels like things that they could have been proactive
Speaker 7: about sooner, and you know, waiting this long period of
Speaker 7: time to be able to do these things has put
Speaker 7: them in a position. And it's and again it's repetitive.
Speaker 7: It's not just a one time thing. We're experiencing this
Speaker 7: with almost every big player that is up has an
Speaker 7: upcoming contract, and it's it's it is, it's it's confounding.
Speaker 6: And I understand some of fans' frustration.
Speaker 7: Especially when we're not talking about no scrubs, were not
Speaker 7: talking about no and not to kind.
Speaker 6: Of by the scrub. I was listening to tlc.
Speaker 7: Earl Scrub, but like you know, we're not talking we're
Speaker 7: talking about guys that are in the top percentile of
Speaker 7: the sport, you know what I'm saying, And so some
Speaker 7: of this exactly some of this stuff would be a
Speaker 7: no brainer, you feel like, and that there would be
Speaker 7: some proactiveness about it.
Speaker 6: So I get some of the frustration, but.
Speaker 7: I also understand that there are other parts that we
Speaker 7: don't know about and other subsets that go on through
Speaker 7: these negotiations.
Speaker 6: So I just believe that fans are just you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's weird not seeing CD out there.
Speaker 7: And to your point, Christy and Jerry's point, I do
Speaker 7: think it's beautiful that we've been able to see Jayalen
Speaker 7: Tolbert really flourish this camp and really show what he
Speaker 7: can do, and then some of these other guys get
Speaker 7: opportunities with the ones. However, this offense, a lot of
Speaker 7: it runs through with cde Lamb.
Speaker 6: CD Lamb dictates how people play defense.
Speaker 7: And so him not being out there, it's it's not
Speaker 7: really giving a realistic view of how teams are really
Speaker 7: going to scheme against you, and also to what you're
Speaker 7: gonna be able to do offensively because of all of
Speaker 7: the because of all of the attention.
Speaker 6: That he draws. So I will say silver lining.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but there's a few there's a few little wrinkles
Speaker 7: in there that make me say we wish he was
Speaker 7: here because we would get a more realistic look even
Speaker 7: in like a ram scrimmage on like okay, how do
Speaker 7: people stop him? And now you might have a Jalen
Speaker 7: Tolbert coming in as a three receiver and being successful
Speaker 7: and also to a Brandon Cooks who looks fresh as well.
Speaker 2: Let him cook right real quick. I want to read
Speaker 2: the quote because Nick Harris went and tweeted what the
Speaker 2: whole context of the quote was. So Nick Harris tweeted
Speaker 2: Jarry Jones on Talks with cit quote, we're getting great
Speaker 2: work done and making milk progress. I don't think we're
Speaker 2: losing a step with where we are now. He also
Speaker 2: says there isn't a sense of urgency to get a
Speaker 2: deal done before the end of training camp. Okay, so
Speaker 2: with context, it sounds a little different than what was
Speaker 2: happening on social media, right. It was very much so
Speaker 2: without context, and I understand, Like to your point, Ayisha,
Speaker 2: I understand why people are upset. Like you said, this
Speaker 2: is a pattern, and it's a pattern that doesn't seem
Speaker 2: to break. It's a pattern that could have been avoided
Speaker 2: this time. It's something we've been talking about for a
Speaker 2: year now. It's not surprising when these things come up,
Speaker 2: And to be quite honest, it wasn't that surprising that
Speaker 2: kind of seasoned ced Lamb had from what he was
Speaker 2: projected to have in training camp last year. So here's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's really difficult because we live in a
Speaker 2: world with social media that amplifies things. So for me,
Speaker 2: I think the most frustrating part of this situation is
Speaker 2: if this whole thing stalls it out even longer, because
Speaker 2: now you have a player clearly upset on social media
Speaker 2: because of social media drama, right, And so to that point,
Speaker 2: I think that's why it frustrates me, because you're already
Speaker 2: in waiting your one receiver is not there. But I
Speaker 2: also don't want it to get twisted that he's not
Speaker 2: practicing while he's not there. It's not like Seedee Lamb
Speaker 2: sitting at home just hanging out like not doing anything.
Speaker 2: He understands what football shape is, he understands what his
Speaker 2: role is. So I don't want it to get twisted
Speaker 2: that even though he's not at camp, he's not getting
Speaker 2: work in and Furthermore, we've already said multiple times on
Speaker 2: the show he's gotten work in with the rest of
Speaker 2: the receivers and Dak Prescott, so that work is being done,
Speaker 2: and it was being done before training camp. It is
Speaker 2: just a frustrating situation as a whole, but at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like it's gonna happen. When it's
Speaker 2: gonna happen, you have to control what you can control.
Speaker 2: And as a fan, I understand where the frustration comes
Speaker 2: from from for you all, but also as a professional
Speaker 2: and understanding how these things work and how much money
Speaker 2: you have to really seed out because you waited so long.
Speaker 2: You can't just hand ceed whatever you want him to
Speaker 2: get a fair deal. So if that means it takes
Speaker 2: a little bit longer so he gets the money he deserves,
Speaker 2: we all have to wait it out. Sorry, I had
Speaker 2: a soapbox a little bit. I've been look at my
Speaker 2: other job all morning. That's all people wanted to talk
Speaker 2: to me about, and I just had to get it
Speaker 2: out because I was like, ahuh yeah, yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: really say much. So it's just been it's just been
Speaker 2: a little crazy. But Ayisha, it's just us. In the meantime, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Nicole and Christie back here in a
Speaker 2: little bit. But to kind of bounce off that. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing about Ceedee Lamb. What are you expecting from
Speaker 2: the rest of the wide receiver corps kind of going
Speaker 2: forward when he does come back, when he is integrated
Speaker 2: back into everything, who do you think is going to
Speaker 2: bounce off well with him? Given I'm talking more younger rookies,
Speaker 2: younger players, who do you see right now has the
Speaker 2: upperhand other than Jalen Tolbert.
Speaker 7: I think that a guy like a Jalen Marino Cropper
Speaker 7: is really going to take to He's really gonna take
Speaker 7: to a ced Lamb because they're both route runners.
Speaker 6: They're both guys that can do things in the slot.
Speaker 7: Obviously, I think ceed Lamb can do a little bit
Speaker 7: more at the X and the outside because Cropper just
Speaker 7: has a smaller frame. But the route running and the
Speaker 7: precision in the route running, and how care, how much
Speaker 7: care they put into being route runners, I think they're
Speaker 7: gonna see eye to eye and really agree with each other. Now,
Speaker 7: back to the point about the fact that other guys
Speaker 7: have been getting opportunity. I wonder if we see them
Speaker 7: slow pay slow play Cede Lamb and not to like,
Speaker 7: oh he's on a pitch count, but hey, preserve your man. Yeah,
Speaker 7: Like this offense is, you know, not in an install
Speaker 7: period anymore. So there's been wrinkles implemented into this offense.
Speaker 7: Down that might be different, that might look different. Furthermore,
Speaker 7: Dak is really connected with Jayleen Tobert. We see Dak
Speaker 7: go to Ceedee Lamb on fourth down, third downs, those
Speaker 7: clutch moments. Hey, him and Jayalen Tobert have really built
Speaker 7: a connect here.
Speaker 6: When you see a quarterback scrambling, look at who he's.
Speaker 7: Going to yep, and it'll it'll let you know a
Speaker 7: lot about who he trust.
Speaker 6: And Jalen Tolbert's been that guy. So it's it.
Speaker 7: Really also to it again, if Jalen Tolbert is going
Speaker 7: to be Jake Ferguson as well, Like I'm sure you're
Speaker 7: gonna talk about him, But if those guys are really
Speaker 7: gonna dictate coverage, it's gonna put a lot of off Uh,
Speaker 7: You're just gonna put a lot of defenses in a
Speaker 7: position to what they got to make business decisions. And
Speaker 7: so yeah, I mean I think this is gonna help
Speaker 7: the whole room the fact that you know he hasn't
Speaker 7: been around, even though I think he can come in
Speaker 7: and integrate really quickly.
Speaker 2: And you know you're talking about younger guys. But on
Speaker 2: the other side of the spectrum you have a Brandon
Speaker 2: Cooks who was absolutely cooking at that scrimmage. Somehow someway
Speaker 2: he looks even faster, like man travels at the speed
Speaker 2: of light, I swear, And it's almost crazy. Just he
Speaker 2: walked in here last year and you could see an
Speaker 2: automatic chemistry and connection with him and Dak. But with
Speaker 2: a year of that flourishing, you can really see it
Speaker 2: off the bat. So what I'm excited about going forward,
Speaker 2: obviously we won't see it preseason, is you know last
Speaker 2: year Seed he was getting all the attention rightfully, so
Speaker 2: wide receiver one. I want to see a little bit
Speaker 2: more of Brandon Cook's I want to see a little
Speaker 2: bit more you know, of letting him cook if you will,
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. You get that ball to that man,
Speaker 2: you're not going to see him until he's in the
Speaker 2: end zone. Like his speed, Aisha, how do you preserve
Speaker 2: that much as a player? Being where he is in
Speaker 2: his career, Brandon Cooks, how is he doing what he's
Speaker 2: doing going into what year? What year is he in now? Eight,
Speaker 2: maybe longer than that. How do you preserve that as
Speaker 2: a wide receiver? And what impact have you seen even
Speaker 2: that from the guys you've talked to in the locker
Speaker 2: room that he has made in the last year that
Speaker 2: he's been here.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean when you talk about how can he
Speaker 7: preserve that speed? I've touched base with Brandon Cook's. The
Speaker 7: wide receiver position is something that I'm still really trying
Speaker 7: to get as much information at and learning.
Speaker 6: So I like to go to the players and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: teach me, teach me.
Speaker 7: So I was asking him what thing I noticed about him?
Speaker 7: And Tyler Lockett wide receiver for the Seahawks.
Speaker 6: Have a very they have a habit.
Speaker 7: Listen that ball hits their hands if they're in the
Speaker 7: position to run with the ball and gets to run
Speaker 7: after catch, Sure you can do that. However, you see
Speaker 7: you'll see Brandon Cooks he shields his body when he
Speaker 7: takes contact, when he prepares for contact, and a lot
Speaker 7: of people don't like that. They'd be like, oh, why
Speaker 7: he doing that? He a football player?
Speaker 15: Whatever.
Speaker 7: That's another reason why he's preserved his body. I think
Speaker 7: Brandon will tell you the good Lord because he's very
Speaker 7: serious about his faith and also too, he just takes
Speaker 7: everything seriously. Remember they came in last year and guys
Speaker 7: were saying just how strict he was about his eating
Speaker 7: habits made them feel like they have to be better.
Speaker 6: But to your point, you know, back to.
Speaker 7: What can them connecting this year bring to this team, Yo, Huh.
Speaker 7: What it's gonna do is gonna make defenses have to
Speaker 7: make choices, like I said, because they didn't really connect
Speaker 7: on that deep ball quickly as much as we expected
Speaker 7: them to get.
Speaker 6: But once you.
Speaker 7: Start really throwing that rock and making people pay, I
Speaker 7: bet you they stopped coming so close to the line
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. I bet you they back up and they're
Speaker 7: back pedaling, and they're just a little bit more hesitant.
Speaker 7: It's gonna open up this offense even more to have
Speaker 7: that explosive threat consistently more consistently this year, and also too,
Speaker 7: it might actually help but open up some of the
Speaker 7: run game stuff because you can't just leave a robber
Speaker 7: down there, you can't just bring somebody, you can't walk
Speaker 7: a safety up to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6: He's gonna make you pay. He's gonna run by you.
Speaker 7: So I think schematically us seeing them connect specifically yesterday,
Speaker 7: deep crossers, things like that, causing conflict, rub routes, stuff
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 6: We're playing some football now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like they are some football.
Speaker 2: I also wanted to correct myself. Oh ladies, he is
Speaker 2: in year eleven, and you know what we are welcoming
Speaker 2: back our girls. They are We missed you that brief.
Speaker 2: We were talking about Brandon Cooks and you know how
Speaker 2: he pretty much travels with the speed of light and
Speaker 2: you can tell. But ladies, I want to get from
Speaker 2: your perspective in Oxnard, who from tight ends wide receivers,
Speaker 2: also stuck out to you during the scrimmage yesterday. On
Speaker 2: the offense, I know I'm putting you on the.
Speaker 8: John Stevens had a touchdown catch there down in red
Speaker 8: zone and that was very good.
Speaker 9: And I know that.
Speaker 8: The staff here is really excited to see what he
Speaker 8: can do in the game on Sunday against the rams See.
Speaker 9: And the other thing is with the game action.
Speaker 8: Even though it was a joint practice and there was
Speaker 8: contact and some a little bit tackling and stuff like that,
Speaker 8: it's going to be full, all out real football on Sunday.
Speaker 8: And so the thing about him, the question is, since
Speaker 8: he was a wide receiver in college and now tight end,
Speaker 8: can you put him at the end of the line
Speaker 8: and how is he going to do as a blocker.
Speaker 8: So we're finally going to get to see that on Sunday,
Speaker 8: and it's all about keeping Padlows low and you know,
Speaker 8: maintaining your leverage and the proper technique, and so they're
Speaker 8: really looking at him. Princeton fant do not sleep on
Speaker 8: this kid.
Speaker 9: Second year.
Speaker 8: He played quite a bit last year, mainly on special teams.
Speaker 8: We've been talking about on the show looking for him,
Speaker 8: and then nobody's talking about Alec Caller, the kid what
Speaker 8: Central Florida. He's shown some good things too when he'll
Speaker 8: get probably more opportunities in the second and third preseason games.
Speaker 8: But there's a lot of depth at the tight end position.
Speaker 8: We won't see Jake Ferguson. Also, Peyton Hendershot didn't take
Speaker 8: part in the practice yesterday because of the shoulder injury
Speaker 8: and didn't take part in practice this afternoon, So that
Speaker 8: leads to me to think that he probably won't play
Speaker 8: Sunday against the Rams.
Speaker 5: I was going to go real fast before we take
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Speaker 4: I was going to go cooks and I I feel
Speaker 4: like he's just so much lighter on his feet.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell he did this offseason.
Speaker 4: He looks like I think Jess was actually mentioning that
Speaker 4: he looks so much faster. He had a touchdown pass
Speaker 4: he caught him path from Dak Prescott in the back
Speaker 4: of the end zone, and he just looks so fast.
Speaker 4: They're lining them up everywhere, and I'm gonna say a
Speaker 4: little hot take here.
Speaker 5: I think he could have in a thousand yard receiving
Speaker 5: season this year. Boom yep.
Speaker 4: I'm taking it there because he said six in his career, so.
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Speaker 5: And before we wrap things.
Speaker 4: Up, we've got a preseason game I think in what
Speaker 4: for less than.
Speaker 5: Forty eight hours Todays on Sunday, kick off set three pm.
Speaker 4: I'll start with you, Christy, who are you looking for
Speaker 4: to have or really just stand out on Sunday?
Speaker 5: Who do you need something more from?
Speaker 9: I just want to see Trey Lance run the offense.
Speaker 8: And Mike McCarthy says you can't get him enough drop
Speaker 8: backs and passes from the pocket. So what I want
Speaker 8: to see is him run the offense and not what
Speaker 8: we saw the first week and.
Speaker 9: Half a week and a.
Speaker 8: Half of practice where a play would break down and
Speaker 8: the end where he's running right because the play breaks down.
Speaker 8: He'll be working with the twos. He got all the
Speaker 8: snaps today getting ready for Sunday. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 8: if if Trey Lance plays the vast, fast, fast majority,
Speaker 8: if not all, of the preseason snaps. And so I
Speaker 8: also want to see Tyler Guidon because he did go
Speaker 8: through the portion of practice yesterday, even though yesterday he
Speaker 8: didn't do any of the team work.
Speaker 9: He had missed a few days because of illness.
Speaker 8: But if he's able to ramp up from practice today
Speaker 8: take part tomorrow, can he you know, that's the big question,
Speaker 8: you know, is he going to be able to block
Speaker 8: Miles Garrett in Week one against the Browns?
Speaker 9: So, and then I don't know that we're going to
Speaker 9: see brock Hoffman.
Speaker 8: I think we're going to see a lot of Cooper
Speaker 8: Bebee and I wouldn't be shocked if Cooper even gets
Speaker 8: some work in the second half at guard after working
Speaker 8: at least the first half at center.
Speaker 9: And then they the Rams, even though.
Speaker 8: Tyler Higbee has is injured and he wouldn't play anyway
Speaker 8: because he's a starter. Uh, they have a really good
Speaker 8: tight end and named Kobe Parkinson who's having a really
Speaker 8: good camp. And so that's going to be a good
Speaker 8: test for our linebackers, some of these young linebackers and
Speaker 8: our safeties in terms of some of their coverage.
Speaker 9: So those are some of the things that I'm looking.
Speaker 4: At Christy kind of piggybacking off which you had mentioned
Speaker 4: Tyler Goiden. He didn't get any action against Jared Verse
Speaker 4: and the way that he plays, he is so freaking
Speaker 4: quick off the ball at end, and I want to
Speaker 4: see how he matches up against Tyler Guiden.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be a huge test for him.
Speaker 4: And a nice little preseason, you know, a little ramp
Speaker 4: up for him.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to see that matchup.
Speaker 4: But my other one is gonna be Mozzie Smith because
Speaker 4: in combo drills in joint practice yesterday, I think he
Speaker 4: did a really good job and I think this would
Speaker 4: be a good confidence booster for him. Right we've talked
Speaker 4: about it so much this off season and in training
Speaker 4: camp and how he faced so much criticism.
Speaker 5: I think that this would be a good start for
Speaker 5: him to just kind of silence the noise.
Speaker 4: So Mazzie Smith, Tyler Goiden versus Jared versu.
Speaker 5: Jared Verse versus.
Speaker 10: That's nice.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that those are my two, which you got Ayesha,
Speaker 5: My don't.
Speaker 7: I don't have a two hours. I have a unit
Speaker 7: and it's the tight ends. We just talked about them briefly,
Speaker 7: these young guys, Brevin s van Ford, Eric Hahller, John Stevens,
Speaker 7: Princeton fant those gentlemen. I wonder if school Maker play
Speaker 7: at all, would you think Christy.
Speaker 9: Actually he did get a little bit of work today,
Speaker 9: but of course he.
Speaker 8: Had had the injury he missed some time earlier this week.
Speaker 8: If he if he gets some work, it won't be much.
Speaker 6: Okay, but do you think we'll see him in preseason
Speaker 6: at all?
Speaker 8: You think that he Yeah, just because just because they
Speaker 8: still want to see it's still such a young guy relatively,
Speaker 8: and he missed time last year, you know with the
Speaker 8: plantar fascia. So yeah, he's one of these, even though
Speaker 8: he's the second year player, one of these young guys
Speaker 8: that they want to get him miss some snaps and work.
Speaker 2: It also depends on injuries too, Okay he is at
Speaker 2: that point.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I just wanted to know.
Speaker 7: But yeah, just the tight end room in general, I mean,
Speaker 7: we know we haven't Jake Ferguson seen some seen some
Speaker 7: decent things out of Schoolmaker of Peyton Henter shot dealing
Speaker 7: with injuries.
Speaker 6: John Stevens had he caught a touchdown from every quarterback yesterday.
Speaker 6: I thought that was important going forward for him. You
Speaker 6: mentioned Princeton, Christy's you know what's crazy about Prince Sometimes
Speaker 6: I look at him, I think he a fullback, but
Speaker 6: it's not my business.
Speaker 8: And they're they're using him as a fullback.
Speaker 9: In the twenty one package.
Speaker 8: So so when they line up in twenty one, if
Speaker 8: it's first team, uh, it's gonna be Hunter Lucky.
Speaker 6: And then Fant has been doing a second team and in.
Speaker 8: Fact he's actually gotten some work in twenty one with
Speaker 8: the first team too. But yeah, he's a versatile guy
Speaker 8: and he can block baby.
Speaker 7: I was guessing, but but thank you for that. And
Speaker 7: then obviously Berevan spam Ford, he's had a couple he's
Speaker 7: had a couple of receptions that practices caught a touchdown
Speaker 7: in the if I'm not mistaken in the joint practice
Speaker 7: or the prep for the joint practice. So just looking
Speaker 7: for these tight ends to kind of come in, solidify
Speaker 7: themselves a little bit more. And to your point, Christy,
Speaker 7: really see how they are in the blocking gang. I
Speaker 7: feel like we know a lot of these guys can
Speaker 7: be you know, they can can get receptions. You need
Speaker 7: help from your titans in the blocking game, so this
Speaker 7: run game can't improve. So that's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking for I'm trying to decide. First
Speaker 2: of all, I want to mention Cooper BB because Christy
Speaker 2: you mentioned him. But something I did notice is he's
Speaker 2: struggling a lot with his snap So I do want
Speaker 2: to see that polished up by you know, the end
Speaker 2: of preseason, because it is getting better, but I do
Speaker 2: want to see that progression continuing. It's only going to
Speaker 2: get better with reps, and in game reps the most valuable,
Speaker 2: so I want to see Cooper BB kind of improve
Speaker 2: that through his in game reps. I also want to see,
Speaker 2: because I did notice during the joint practice kind of
Speaker 2: that wide receiver room and not necessarily a wide receiver
Speaker 2: four five position, but overall, who could potentially be with
Speaker 2: Cavante Turpin if it's not Deuce vun for the returner position.
Speaker 2: So I want to keep an eye on kind of
Speaker 2: the special teams unit of what receiver they're putting there,
Speaker 2: whether it be a Jalen Brooks, a Jalen Cropper, David Dirtin.
Speaker 2: I saw getting some of those reps as well, so
Speaker 2: I want to see those receivers at work there, because
Speaker 2: that could also distinguish if they make their way onto
Speaker 2: the fifty three, is that extra wide receiver if they're
Speaker 2: needed in the special teams unit. So I feel like
Speaker 2: if they have good explosive plays they take one home,
Speaker 2: you're automatically giving yourself an upper hand there as well. Also,
Speaker 2: just seeing you this special teams unit with a new rule,
Speaker 2: I want to see how well they're they're working it
Speaker 2: into a real game scenario as well, even though it's
Speaker 2: not your starters. I want to see how they're doing
Speaker 2: it and how Bones Fossil is kind of controlling them
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned Jalen Cropper and
Speaker 8: David Durden because they have been getting work as a
Speaker 8: second and third team returners. The first team on kickoff
Speaker 8: return has been Cavante Turpin of course in Rico Dowdle,
Speaker 8: and then Cropper getting work a second team next to Durden.
Speaker 8: So two good names there and piggybacking. One last thing, Jess,
Speaker 8: you mentioned Cooper Bby. This is what one reason to
Speaker 8: love Cooper Beby. We're walking off the field today. He
Speaker 8: did talk to media, but I wanted to ask him
Speaker 8: something apart from the scrum where everybody's together. And I said, Cooper,
Speaker 8: you know in these preseason games, the fans and the media,
Speaker 8: you know, there's all these snap evaluations, right, But with
Speaker 8: the offensive line, how do you evaluate You know, we
Speaker 8: don't really get to watch in the trenches and other
Speaker 8: than points on the board and like rushing yards. You know,
Speaker 8: that's how the offensive linemen are judged. But how are
Speaker 8: you going.
Speaker 9: To judge yourself before you get in the film room?
Speaker 8: How will you judge whether or not or what makes
Speaker 8: you feel good about your performance?
Speaker 9: What do you want from yourself? And he says, we're
Speaker 9: five is one.
Speaker 8: I'll be judged and I'll judge myself how the unit does.
Speaker 8: So it's it's everything together, it's not me individually.
Speaker 9: So I just I love that attitude.
Speaker 8: I love that response, and it's one more reason for
Speaker 8: the fans to really really get behind this rookie. And
Speaker 8: like I say, I don't think brock Kaffman is going
Speaker 8: to play in this game. I think that they want
Speaker 8: to give more more work to the younger guys to
Speaker 8: even though Hoffman is a young guy relatively, I think
Speaker 8: I think, Babe, you'll get more work.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be b the centermore how to replace it?
Speaker 2: Whatever has been.
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