1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,319 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: app all over the world, twenty four hours a day 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app John Cobelt Show on demand. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: That's the podcast, same as the radio show. 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Today's show will be posted shortly after four o'clock. A 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, we talked about a murderer, and this 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: is particularly terrible. Herbert Brown's his name, Herbert David Brown, 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the third. You know, murderers always have their full name 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: publicized so you don't get confused with other Herbert Brown's. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: Well, he's serving a life sentence. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: He murdered his twenty two month old baby daughter, Lily Summer, 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: and somewhere along the way Herbert decided he was a 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: woman and wanted to be known as Ali Brown. And 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: the Parole Board has decided that a guy who kills 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: his baby daughter ought to get parole. And that's what 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: happened on April twenty second. That's what the Parole Board says. Now, 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: the governor has thirty days to reverse the decision, which 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: means if he's going to reverse it, it has to 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: happen by Thursday. Thursday, May twenty second, So he's got 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: two days left today and tomorrow to reverse the parole 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Newsom does. Let's talk with the District Attorney in San 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Louis Obispo County, Dan Dao, who told us about this 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: case a few weeks back. 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: Dan, welcome, How are you John? 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm well, but I'm I'm a little anxious because we 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: don't have much time left for the governor to act. 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: Do you how do I mean, how does this work? 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Do you get to make a presentation to the governor 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: to oppose him approving of the parole or do you 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: just sitting and waiting for thirty days? 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: Well, our proposal and presentation to him was a very 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: detailed letter. It was a five page letter plus a 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: lot of attachments that we could not release publicly, including 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: transcripts of the prole boards hearing statements from the inmate himself. 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: And we were able to show, I believe in our 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: letter to the governor that the parole board made their 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: decision without adequately fully looking at his history while he's 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: been in prison, without adequately considering the gravity of the 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: crime that he committed. And so the California Constitution gives 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: the governor thirty days after a granted parole has been given. 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: It's literally an Article five of the Constitution. If the 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: conviction and the sentence was for a murderer. There are 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: other processes for people that aren't in for murder, but 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: in every murder, once that decision has been made, the 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: governor can reverse it within thirty days, And so I 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: would tell you that procedurally. Right now, I'm a little 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: more skeptical than I was even at the beginning, but 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: I know there's still hope. A lot of people around 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: the state have reached out to him, and I'm hoping 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: that your listeners today will call the governor's office. And 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: we've got his phone number. We're willing to give it 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: out the governor's office. The capital is nine one six 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: four four five two eight four one. That's nine one 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: six four four five two eight four to one, and 57 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: we're just asking for justice for baby Lily. I can't 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: imagine that a baby murder is being granted early parole. Frankly, 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: he should never be released, but they're giving him more. 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: They're giving him three years off of his sentence that 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: he was sentenced to fifteen years to life. That means 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: he should have served every day of fifteen years before 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: even being considered not he should not be allowed. 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Dig murders his two year old daughter and to get 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: out in twelve years. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: And he cracked her skull. I mean, it's horrific. Let's 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: I hate to even talk about him. 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I know, but I think you have to because most 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: of the public still doesn't know what this case is about. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Why don't you give us a rundown of how he 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: killed her? 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: So Herbert David Brown the third lived in passer Robles 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: here in beautiful San Louis Bispo County, and he had 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: he was required to have visitation into the baby's mother 75 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: were not married at the time, they were not together, 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: but he was required to have some visitation as what 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: I'm remembering now from the mother dn summer. And he 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: was a drug addict. He was known to be a 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: meth user, and he, instead of taking care of his child, 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: put his own addiction ahead of the child. And while 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: he was into the influence, was very irritated by the 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: fact that this twenty two month old was sick, wasn't 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: eating well, and so rather than provide loving care, he 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: got angry and he inflicted abuse against her. Where we 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: don't have all the facts because we weren't there, but 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: we had to piece it together from what we did 87 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: learn and what we were able to discover in the investigation. 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: But the baby's skull was cracked. She had, you know, 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: symptoms prior to that that we later learned that she 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: had been sick and was not eating, and so Herbert 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: Brown didn't know how to deal with it. He inflicted 92 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: horrific injuries all over her body, including a cracked skull. 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: She died in the hospital just shortly after the emergency 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: personnel we're able to finally arrive at the scene of his. 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Home, and then Herbert Brown becomes Ali Brown becomes a woman. 96 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: That's right, and that all happened in prison, long after 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: he was convicted. Our office has never given any formal 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: notification of it, but all the paperwork that the Department 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: of Correction sends to us now on him refers to 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: the name Ali Brown. I've never seen anything with a 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: formal name change. And it's my understanding that in prison, 102 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 3: if an inmate declares that they are the other gender, 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: that it's a fairly simple process for them to get 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: affirmed and get support and get all of the medical 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: treatment necessary. In fact, since twenty seventeen in California, it's 106 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: basically been law and regulation that we will pay for 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: gender reassignment for prisoners in state prison. 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: Right, But we don't know if he went through all 109 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: the way with the. 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: We don't and I really have no information of that. 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: But the fact that the parole board is referring to 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: him as a her, and they're referring to him as 113 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, the baby as being his daughter or her daughter, 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: and that is a you know, a real I believe 115 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: it's an insult. My belief is that it's an insult 116 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: to the baby's true mother, Don Summer, who is absolutely 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: in agony over this. She's been in agony since the 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: crime happened, and she's appealing as well for justice for 119 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: baby Lily. And I'm hoping that people today will just 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: make the governor's phone ring off the hook. And what 121 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: people do when they call that numbers press one for 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: English and then press six to speak to a staff member. 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: What is the parole board's argument for letting him out 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: after twelve years? I mean this, I don't think I've 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: heard of a case like this where you kill your 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: own little daughter and you're out after twelve years. I mean, 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: this is really breaking new ground. Maybe this is going 128 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: on every day now. I just don't know about it. 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's going on a lot more than 130 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: what we would like to think. And Prop fifty seven 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: as actually what made it happen. It was supposed to 132 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: be only for non violent offenders getting early release, but Prop. 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: Fifty seven granted to the Department of Corrections the law 134 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: legal authority to write new regulations awarding early credits extra 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: service time credits to anyone, including those in for violent 136 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: offenses and murder. It actually conflicts with and there's a 137 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: lawsuit right now that the DA's Association has had on 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: file for several years. It's in the Sacramento Areas at 139 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: the Court of Appeal. We won in the trial court, 140 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: but the effect of that has been stayed until the 141 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: decision gets released by the Court of Appeal. We're hoping 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: that the Court of Appeal will say it was unconstitutional 143 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: to change the law this way and to allow credits 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: for people serving time for murder. But nonetheless, many people 145 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: are being released early because of this extra credit that 146 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: they're getting that the Department of Corrections can award to them, 147 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: and that's all. 148 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: They go by, just how the math works. 149 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: If you rack up enough of these fake credits, then okay, 150 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: we're letting you out. I mean, is there any look 151 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: into I mean, he's a psychopath, obviously, he's a violent psychopath. 152 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: And that doesn't get cured in prison. That never gets cured. 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: It's the same guy coming out that went in twelve 154 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: years ago. 155 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly our concern. And beyond that, you know, 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: I know from our review of the records that we 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: do not believe that he's been rehabilitated. We don't believe 158 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: that he's taken accountability for what he did, and we 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: don't believe he's addressed his addiction. And he doesn't have 160 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: a plan for when he gets out of prison and 161 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: what he's going to do. And first of all, you know, 162 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: of the one of the goals of our criminal and 163 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: victim justice system is accountability and punishment. And he hasn't 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: served enough of a punishment for the death of his 165 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: twenty two month innocent child. How old is See he 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: is early forties. 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Early forties. 168 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: He kills his daughter, and he's going to be out 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: in his early forties. 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: That's right. 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Does Newsom have to publicly decide one day or one 172 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: way or another. 173 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: Or can he just let it happen without putting his 174 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: name on it. 175 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: He does not have to do. If he does nothing, 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: then the Parole Board's order goes into effect, you know, 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: without any other without anything else happening, which is why 178 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: it's so important that he get the pressure. You know, 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: we had a receipt and acknowledgment receipt of our package 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: that we sent on on April twenty fifth to the 181 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: Governor's office. They acknowledge receipt. I have since inquired of 182 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: the governor's staff that works on these packets to ask 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: for an update. They have not replied, and I think 184 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: they're probably not allowed to reply. Once they receive something, 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: it's up to the governor and his staff to decide 186 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: what they're going to do. And I just confirmed you. 187 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: Herbert David Brown, who now goes by Ali Brown, was 188 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: born in July of nineteen eighty three, so he's not 189 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: even yet forty two years old and has not served 190 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: a full well, he's just served twelve years in state 191 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: prison for the murder of his child. 192 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 193 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom's number nine one six four four five two 194 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: eight four one that's nine one, six, four, four, five 195 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: two eight four to one. You press one for English 196 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: and then what's the next number? 197 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: You press six to speak to a staff member. Okay, 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: I should they should refer to him as Ali Hazel Brown. 199 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: That's the way the Governor's office is tracking the case. 200 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: And the inmate's serial number is a Y for Alpha 201 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: Yankee two two two seven, so they can refer to 202 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: inmate Ali Hazel Brown inmate number a Y two two 203 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: two seven. 204 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Well, I hope every single person listening will make the 205 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: phone call and support little baby Lily Summer twenty two 206 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: months old and killed brutally by her father known as 207 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Herbert Brown at the time. Now Allie Hazel Brown, and 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: Newsom has two days to reverse this decision. He could 209 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: do nothing and then Ali Brown gets free. Anyway, That's 210 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: just this is so overwhelmingly unbelievable. Well, Dan, I hope 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Newsom does the right thing. 212 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: I hope so as well. He has in a few 213 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: other cases where we've petitioned like this, I don't think 214 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: we've ever had it be on this close to the 215 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: end of the deadline. So it's our hope that he 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: that he does the right thing. And I appreciate you 217 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: getting the word out to your listeners. 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, we'll talk again soon. Thank you, thank you, 219 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: all right again. 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: The numbers nine one, six, four, four, five two eight 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: four to one, and you call Governor Newsom's office press 222 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: one for English and then press six to talk to 223 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: a staff member. And the inmate's name is Allie Hazel 224 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: Brown and busted the skull of his twenty two month 225 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: old baby dollar daughter, Lily Summer. And he would only 226 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: serve twelve years in prison because of the lunatic psychotics. 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: On the pearl Board war coming up. 228 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 229 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: six forty. 230 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: This story, I was really baffled by it. First, you 231 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: may have heard thirteen people have been arrested part of 232 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: an Armenian crime syndicate headquartered in the San Fernando Valley 233 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: in La County, and they were connected to the Russian mafia. 234 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: All right, so you have thirteen Armenians connected to the 235 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Russian mafia. The syndicate is known as a Tourra tect 236 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: that's Russian for authority, and they've been in a violent 237 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: feud to maintain control of the San Fernando Valley for 238 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: the last three years. This was a federal investigation. The 239 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: main feud was between a guy from Porta Ranch named 240 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: Arra Artuni and his rival, Robert Emerian from Hollywood. And 241 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: what jumped out at me though, is our Tunis organization 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: stole eighty three million dollars from Amazon, according to the Feds. 243 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: And when I heard about this, I thought, well, how the. 244 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: Hell do you steal eighty three million dollars worth of goods? Well, 245 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: what this crime syndicate did is they enrolled with Amazon 246 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: as uh carriers delivery guys. They got hired and they 247 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: contracted for trucking routes and their trucks would fill up 248 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: with the goods and then they would steal the goods. 249 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: They would just drive off and steal the shipment. I 250 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: guess they did this over and over again. Boy, Amazon's 251 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: investigative mechanism must be awfully slow, because they didn't catch 252 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: on until eighty three million dollars. Of how many drivers 253 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: you think they had on the take, I don't know. Well, 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: they only have thirteen who got arrested, but yeah, it 255 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: seems like should be a lot more than thirteen drivers. 256 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: And so they all got trucking round. I mean, Amazon 257 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: doesn't do much in the way of background checks, do 258 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: they no vetting? There? 259 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: I guess as long as you have a driver's license. 260 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: And all these trucks were driven off, and all this 261 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: stuff was never delivered, and it must all be in 262 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley. There must be thousands and thousands 263 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: of people who've been banging on Amazon saying where's my stuff? 264 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I never got it, which I assume is what led 265 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: the Feds to bust up this ring eighty three million dollars. 266 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: How does that go on for more than a few days, 267 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: when one truck worth of goods disappears, and then another 268 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: and another. Jee wouldn't somebody jeez Bezos is too busy 269 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: with Lauren Sanchez. You see, there's a photo of him 270 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: in one of the tablet spanking Laurn Sanchez. I saw that, yeah, yeah, 271 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: and so that's why the there a belt with a hand. 272 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: She was laid out, you know, half naked on a 273 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: on a beach chair, maybe on their on their So 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: he's busy and he's standing there smiling and smacking her. 275 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: But in meantime, these guys are running off with eighty 276 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: three million dollars of Amazon. 277 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: Good when you got billions. 278 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 5: I guess you can do that. 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you know, when you you have that midlife crisis. 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: H Corvette. 281 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty. 282 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: Moistlines eight seven seven Moist Dady six. 283 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: We have openings eight seven seven Moist eighty six. Come on. 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: You should be sober by now. 285 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Give it a call or use the talkback feature on 286 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. That's even easier than you have to. 287 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Don't have to go fumbling for the numbers. We'll do 288 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: two rounds of the Moistline on Friday. All right, There's 289 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: there's information coming out today about both major fires palisades 290 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: in Altadena, and there's actually a thread between the two 291 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: involving fire chiefs. And I'll get to Altadena in just 292 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: a minute. But they had a big story in the 293 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: Alley Times today how they still can't figure out why 294 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: evacuation warnings did not go out to people in West 295 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: Altadena and there were deaths in West Altadena because nobody 296 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: knew the fire was about to burn their homes and 297 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: burn them alive. And some people in West Altadena didn't 298 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: get any notification until five in the morning, which was 299 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: eleven hours after the fire started, and nobody wants to 300 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: take responsibility, and the Ally Times suggests it's human error. 301 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. The San Francisco 302 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Chronicle got video. You see, San Diego has wildlife cameras 303 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: up in the Anamonic Mountains all through the mountains, in 304 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: the in the in those well the areas where the 305 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: wildlife lives. That's primarily what they're used for. They're also 306 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: very helpful when fires break out. In fact, u see 307 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: San Diego camera captured video which was released a few 308 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: weeks ago showing that secondary fires blew up twelve hours 309 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: after the first fire because the idiots Genis Quinonez, she 310 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: didn't turn the electricity off to the power lines twelve 311 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: hours into the fire, so eventually power poles collapsed, wires 312 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: came down on vegetation which were bone dry, and here 313 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: we go, you got more waves of fire started engulfing 314 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: the palisades. So that that was captured by the cameras. 315 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: And you know, when they when they get to a 316 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: trial or they get to the settlement, that video is 317 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: going to be very powerful because just about everybody in 318 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the government was asleep and then and then you have 319 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: the fire chief at the time, Crowley, and this is unforgivable. 320 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: And I'll just give you a quick rundown, and then 321 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: we're going to play you this story from Channel seven. 322 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle got the videos from UC San Diego, 323 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: and it looks as if the fire, the big fire 324 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: on January seventh, started in the same place as in 325 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: New Year's Day morning fire. They have video of the 326 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: New Year's Morning fire. Supposedly young people started it with fireworks. 327 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: It was in almost exactly the same place. It looks 328 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: to a lot of fire investigators who stared at the 329 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: video that these were old embers from the January first 330 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: fire that rekindled on January seventh, Which makes you wonder 331 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: why the LA Fire Department didn't have a crew standing over. 332 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: That hot spot. 333 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: Because the fire was put out in the first the 334 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: warnings for extreme fire danger and high winds came out 335 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: the next day on the second, So why wasn't a 336 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: crew keeping that area watered down treated in some way. 337 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: Let's play this story from Channel SEVENKBC. 338 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 5: We're about to show you videos first obtained by the 339 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: San Francisco Chronicles. Some fire investigators believe it's clear video 340 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: evidence that a New Year's fire likely rekindled into the 341 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 5: most destructive fires in California history. 342 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: I think calling it a rekindle is a valid thing. 343 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 5: Retired fire investigator Terry Taylor has studied these two videos 344 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle side by side. This 345 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: nighttime video is from right around midnight New Year's Day. 346 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: You see a flash on the ground and that a 347 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: fire up's near the top of a hill. This small 348 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 5: brush fire, dubbed the Lockman fire, sparked after neighbors say 349 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: they heard fireworks. We were in the neighborhood in the 350 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 5: morning of New Year's and we heard some fireworks going 351 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: off around us. 352 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: And here's what that say. 353 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: You see San Diego camera captured around ten thirty am 354 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: on Tuesday, January seventh, These first flames exploded into the 355 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 5: Palisades fire. Let's show you them side by side again. 356 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: Some experts like Taylor, thing these videos support the theory 357 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: that the Palisades Fire started from a still smothering hot 358 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: pocket left behind from that New Year's Day fire. 359 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: It's certainly a good supposition. 360 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: The theory is nothing new. Just days after the La fires, 361 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 5: sitting on your Side. Investigates showed you these side by 362 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: side satellite images showing the burn scar from January first 363 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: and the beginning of what would be the behemoth Palisades 364 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 5: Fire six days later. Just listen to what this Palisades 365 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 5: homeowner told us. 366 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: It's there a connection. One percent. There's a connection. 367 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: Standing in the exact same X mark, looking in the 368 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: same direction, you'll see the same cloud of smoke in 369 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: the exact same spot. Both fires remain under investigation, so 370 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: the question of did L. E. 371 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: F D miss a hotspot remains. 372 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: Acting Fire Chief Rodney Villa Nueva told us today he 373 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 5: doesn't want a Monday morning quarterback because he wasn't chief 374 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 5: when either fire sparred. Hey, Chief, can we ask you 375 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: a few questions about this new reporting potentially linking the 376 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 5: lockman of Palisades fire. 377 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: Would you say I was? 378 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: I wasn't. And this afternoon I spoke to the acting 379 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 5: chief again over the phone. He says he has never 380 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: received a briefing that ever connects these two fires. Now, 381 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: the ATF is also investigating, and the agency told us 382 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: today no final conclusions have been made. 383 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Rodney Fielanueva has never gotten a brief in connecting the 384 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: two fires. That that that theory has been banned around 385 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: and is being investigated by a lot of different agencies 386 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: right now. He really doesn't know anything about it, and 387 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: only he's got to say that he wasn't he wasn't 388 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: the fire chief. Then, seriously, what the hell, where's Christian Crowley? 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Where's Karen Bass? If you have a major fire? Oh 390 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: my god, on my So there's a big fire on 391 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: the first that morning, on the second, National Weather Service 392 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: sends out the fire warnings and the high wind warnings, 393 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: and there should have been fire crew watching that location, 394 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: because over the next five days the warnings got more frightening, 395 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: more intense. Meantime, Karen Bass jumps on her plane to 396 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Africa in spite of the warnings, In spite of this, 397 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: this fire area obviously still hot and then maybe it 398 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: explodes into flame on the seventh. What there was nobody around? 399 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Everybody in the fire industry knows a hot spot could 400 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: flare up within a week. 401 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: This was six days. How could nobody be there? 402 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Why didn't Kristen Crowley assign a crew permanently to that 403 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: area and as soon as it would start to because 404 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: that would be the number one area most likely to 405 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: flare up. 406 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: And they knew. You've ever seen the. 407 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Weather maps on the news, they can tell you the 408 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: day before, two days before, three days before, where you're 409 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: going to get dangerous winds, almost exactly how strong the 410 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: winds are going to be, almost exactly what time the 411 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: winds are going to be. And you see those the 412 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: windflow right those lines with the arrows that are drawn 413 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: across the maps. And as it was coming into the Palisades, 414 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: they were telling everybody for days that, yeah, this is 415 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: going to be sixty miles an hour, eighty miles an hour, 416 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: it would be passing right over the fire. Does anybody 417 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: in the fire depart and watched, Oh, I don't know. 418 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: ABC seven by the way, that was Kevin Osbecker did 419 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: the report from Channel seven. And then and then this, uh, 420 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: this ridey Vianueva's I haven't heard anything about that. 421 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you haven't heard anything about it. 422 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: It hasn't come up. You've been the assistant fire chief 423 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: for months and it hasn't come up. They really think 424 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: this is going. 425 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: To go away. 426 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: How do you trust all these investigations now, which leads 427 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: me to Alta Dina and I'm going to get to 428 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: that next because you kind of have the same situation there. 429 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: These these evacuation warnings never went out, and nobody wants 430 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: to talk about it. 431 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: All these brave fire chiefs, like the. 432 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: County fire chief in La Anthony Moron, suddenly his his 433 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: tongue gets tied. He can't speak either. Well, these brave 434 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: guys can't just like stand up and tell the truth. 435 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: You know stuff, of course, you know stuff. You've been 436 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: doing this decades. You know what's going on. They don't 437 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: seem to know why evacuation orders didn't go out to 438 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: a neighborhood where people died. It's like five in the morning, 439 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: it's eleven hours into the fire. There's no evacuation warnings. 440 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: Like in the Palisades, twelve hours into the fire, Jenny's 441 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Canonias did not turn off the electricity and so that 442 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: started more fires. What's wrong with these people? Why are 443 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: they here? Why are they earning hundreds and thousands of 444 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: our dollars? Total failure protecting us, total failure, responding, total failure, 445 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: just doing the basics that an eight year old would 446 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: figure out. All right, we'll talk about the Altadena thing 447 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: when we come back. 448 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM. 449 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Six forty after four o'clock, we'll post our podcast that 450 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: we had a lot of good stuff today. We had 451 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Daniel gusson to talk about corruption at the La Zoo 452 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: of all places, and where those two poor elephants ended 453 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: up sentenced to go to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Carl Demio was 454 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: on to talk talk about how he got the Newsom 455 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: administration to admit that they're being investigated by the federal 456 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: government for maybe misappropriating federal tax money for illegal alien healthcare. 457 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: And we also had a district attorney from San Luis 458 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Obispo County, Daniel Dowon, pleading with all of you to 459 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: please contact Governor Newsom immediately because Newsom is about to 460 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: let out a prisoner who killed his two year old 461 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: daughter and he's only served twelve months. So it's all 462 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: on the podcast, All right on the iHeartRadio John Cobolt 463 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: Show on demand. 464 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: All right on the Altadena fire. So here's the thing. 465 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: The western Altadena there was no evacuation orders until three 466 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. The fire started about six at 467 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: night three point thirty a m. The next day, nine 468 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: hours several hours after smoking flames threatened West Altadena. Some 469 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: neighborhoods in Southwest Altadena weren't ordered to evacuate until Amost 470 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: six a m. Twelve hours later. People in East Altadna 471 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: got their evacuation alerts the night before at six forty pm. 472 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: So it's twelve hours and nobody can explain what went wrong. 473 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: For three hours from midnight to three am, as the 474 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Eton fire started to run west, no electronic evacuation alerts 475 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: went out. Nobody, according to the La Times, has explained 476 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: what went wrong. They believe it's human error. They asked 477 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the sheriff, Robert Luna, and he said the evacuation was 478 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: a collaborative effort, and he has said in the past that, well, 479 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: we're included in the decision making, but they're the lead. 480 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: It says it's the county firefighters. They're the ones supposed 481 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: to decide where the evacuation messages go, even though it's 482 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: a unified command. I depend on the experts. I depend 483 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: on the experts. Nobody should depend on experts. Haven't they 484 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: been completely discredited yet? Is there's still people prattling on 485 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: about experts. Really, there's an Office of Emergency Management that 486 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: was supposed to send out these alerts, and that team 487 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: says they sent an evacuation order to West out Diadena 488 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: soon after it was ordered to do so. So they're 489 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: blaming the county fire Department or the sheriff's officials, but 490 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: nobody wants to talk. The county fire chief said he 491 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know what went wrong. This is such a complex issue. 492 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: I think collectively, we all have to do better. Everybody 493 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: is saying that they don't remember a moment when they 494 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: realized they've made a mistake and messed up the evacuation 495 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: alerts for West Oultadena. 496 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: Oh well, just a bunch of people died. 497 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: There's nobody keeping track of evacuation alert I know it's 498 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: chaotic out there, and the winds are blowing eighty one 499 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, and the winds had switched direction, 500 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It seems like there should be 501 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: some master control where they're very meticulous about who's evacuated, 502 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: winds are blowing, who's in danger next? How do you 503 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: go twelve hours twelve and everybody knows it was a 504 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: screw up. Nobody is saying, oh, there's nothing we can't 505 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: know about. No, it's a massive screw up, but nobody 506 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: wants stick responsibility. They just go, I don't know. It's 507 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: like Rodney Vanueva, the La City interim fire chief. They're 508 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: asking him, Hey, how about these this this New Year's 509 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Day fire? Or is this connected to the big fire eye? 510 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't I wasn't here. Then nobody has 511 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: the decency to say. 512 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: My fault. 513 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: I screwed up, my department screwed up. Here are the 514 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: names of the people who work for me who screwed 515 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: up and why we screwed up, and we're sorry, and 516 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: we're all going to resign and get out before we 517 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: hurt anybody else. 518 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 2: All right, Conway's coming up next. 519 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Michael Krazier has the news live in the KFI twenty 520 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John 521 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Covelt Show podcast. 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