Speaker 1: With forty eight labs this semester. You know, we had
Speaker 1: to double back, all right, So this is part two
Speaker 1: of the Dope Labs Semester four finale.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore science,
Speaker 2: pop culture, and a healthy dolsa friendship. This is part
Speaker 2: two of our semester four finale, and in part one
Speaker 2: we heard from some of our past experts on what's
Speaker 2: happened in their fields since they last appeared on Dope Labs,
Speaker 2: So we're going to keep that party going. We're also
Speaker 2: going to be hearing from you. So many of you
Speaker 2: called in to tell us about your favorite lab from
Speaker 2: semester four and we can't thank you enough. We couldn't
Speaker 2: include all of your submissions.
Speaker 1: Here, but we did pick a few and we'll be
Speaker 1: doing a little update on each lab as we go,
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Our first update today is
Speaker 1: around reproductive healthcare. We had doctor Elizabeth Russeau join us
Speaker 1: to discuss the science of birth control in Lab forty one.
Speaker 3: Hey, t t Zakia and Dope Lab listeners. This is
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Russeau from Aiden. I had the pleasure of being
Speaker 3: on Dope Labs this season to discuss all things related
Speaker 3: to the science of birth control and how we created
Speaker 3: the first test designed to prevent birth control side effects.
Speaker 2: Yes, and birth control is just one part of reproductive
Speaker 2: health care. We also had labs on maternal healthcare with
Speaker 2: Simone Tate and doctor Sarah bennettar where we learned about
Speaker 2: some of the barriers facing birthing people. The US has
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do. Here's an update from Simone.
Speaker 4: Tate, Moundate, founder and CEO of Poppyseed Health and since
Speaker 4: recording our episode this season on black maternal healthcare, a
Speaker 4: really big thing happened.
Speaker 1: Roe v.
Speaker 5: Wade was overturned, which means.
Speaker 4: That our access to safe and legal abortions are no
Speaker 4: longer constitutionally protected. We are already seeing instances across the
Speaker 4: country of birthing people everywhere not being able to access
Speaker 4: the life saving healthcare that they need with getting safe
Speaker 4: and legal abortions.
Speaker 1: Since our initial episodes, the political climate around reproductive rights
Speaker 1: and specifically abortion, has become even more hostile in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 3: Reproductive rights in the US are under attack. With this
Speaker 3: landmark decision, the court held that the Constitution of the
Speaker 3: United States does not confer a right to abortion, thus
Speaker 3: overruling Roe v. Wade and giving individual states full power
Speaker 3: to regulate any aspect of abortion not preempted by federal law.
Speaker 3: Many states had so called trigger laws in place, which
Speaker 3: means that thirteen states already have a.
Speaker 2: Total abortion ban, and the bands in these thirteen states
Speaker 2: have serious consequences. In Arkansas, for example, performing or attempting
Speaker 2: to perform an abortion could lead to ten years in
Speaker 2: prison or a fine of up to one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: and in some states like Alabama and Louisiana, there are
Speaker 2: no exceptions made for people who become pregnant due to
Speaker 2: rape or incest either.
Speaker 1: With the overturning of Roe versus Weight, is not just
Speaker 1: abortion access that's under attack. Access to birth control is
Speaker 1: at risk.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 3: The critical thing here is the right to privacy, which
Speaker 3: is the foundation of many other freedoms, including the right
Speaker 3: to obtain and use birth control. Immediately after the Dobs ruling,
Speaker 3: Justice Clarence Thomas said that the court should quote reconsider
Speaker 3: past precedents that establish the right to contra as well
Speaker 3: as same sex marriage.
Speaker 1: This feels like a very slippery slope, and in addition
Speaker 1: to the trigger laws, there have been attempts to pass
Speaker 1: bills that target Plan B and even IUDs, which are
Speaker 1: another form of birth control, And just a reminder, birth
Speaker 1: control is not abortion, but it is part of reproductive
Speaker 1: health care.
Speaker 3: What this means is that birth control is more important
Speaker 3: than ever, especially in states where abortion is now or
Speaker 3: will soon become legal.
Speaker 1: There's so much happening, and it feels like what we're
Speaker 1: really talking about is having the agency to be a
Speaker 1: parent or not right and the.
Speaker 5: State of things.
Speaker 2: It's really scary because never in my wildest nightmares did
Speaker 2: I think that Roe v. Wade would be overturned, Like
Speaker 2: I just I didn't think it was even possible. In
Speaker 2: my mind, it was just never going to happen. So
Speaker 2: it makes me feel like, what's next? What else is
Speaker 2: going to happen that we aren't even thinking about right now?
Speaker 1: Yes, and combining that with the awful state of maternal
Speaker 1: health care and healthcare in general, it feels like that
Speaker 1: meme where the dog is sitting at the table and
Speaker 1: the fire the room's on fire around him and he's
Speaker 1: just fine.
Speaker 5: It's not right. It's not fine, Oh America, you and
Speaker 5: danger girl.
Speaker 4: My biggest update for everyone is that our midterm elections
Speaker 4: are coming up on November eighth. In some states, you're
Speaker 4: even able to vote early, but I encourage everyone to
Speaker 4: go to the polls and vote for your local and
Speaker 4: state level legislations in the way that protects your rights.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to doctor Russo and Simon Tape
Speaker 1: for providing us with this important update. To learn more
Speaker 1: about their work, check out Lab forty one and Lab
Speaker 1: sixty two, or visit Aiden dot com and Poppyseed Health
Speaker 1: dot com. Before we dive into our next expert update,
Speaker 1: let's find out what you our listeners had to say
Speaker 1: about this semester so far.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 7: My name is Jimmy, and I've been a loyal and
Speaker 7: dedicated listener of Dope Labs since the beginning, and I'm
Speaker 7: calling in just to give my input in my favorite.
Speaker 8: Episode from semester four, I think for me, it was
Speaker 8: the celebrating Juneteenth through Food episode with gus Nicole Taylor,
Speaker 8: and she's talking about recipes from her cookbook Watermelon and Redbird,
Speaker 8: as well as other Juneteenth food traditions.
Speaker 9: I loved that episode because of how delicious everything sounded.
Speaker 9: I remember I was listening to it when I was
Speaker 9: outside mowing the lawn and it made me so hungry
Speaker 9: listening to the.
Speaker 10: Episode that I had to stop part way through and
Speaker 10: come inside to the house to get a snack. So
Speaker 10: I love that one. Of course so many many others.
Speaker 10: But thank you to Zakia and t T and the
Speaker 10: rest of the Dope Lezartine for everything you do.
Speaker 8: Have loved all the episodes, and congratulations on finishing up
Speaker 8: the semester, and I'm looking forward to semester number five.
Speaker 1: I know Watermelon and Redbirds had quite a few of
Speaker 1: our listeners inspired. I remember somebody commenting and saying, but
Speaker 1: how do I keep the turkey burger from being dry?
Speaker 1: And I was like, girl, I don't have the answers.
Speaker 1: Do you have to talk to Nicole?
Speaker 2: Yes, And a lot of folks were purchasing Watermelon and
Speaker 2: Redbirds and making the food and posting pictures, and so
Speaker 2: we really enjoy seeing y'all get into the kitchen and
Speaker 2: experiment with some cuisine that maybe you have never had,
Speaker 2: or using Nicole Taylor's twists to enhance the food that
Speaker 2: you're making.
Speaker 5: Loved it now.
Speaker 1: Watermelon Redbirds was really focused on celebrating traditions and it's
Speaker 1: time for a long love tradition in my family and
Speaker 1: that is homecoming season.
Speaker 5: Oh kay mm hm m hm.
Speaker 2: And we have to shout out one of our favorite
Speaker 2: episodes from semester four as well as one of our
Speaker 2: favorite people, Xavier Journ Again also known as X, who
Speaker 2: came on the show to talk to us all about
Speaker 2: homecoming and the HBCU experience.
Speaker 6: What's up, Sequillah, what's up? TT? It's ex Exavier Journ Again.
Speaker 6: Proud HBCU Alum. HBCU, a pride Florida inn and University
Speaker 6: is in the.
Speaker 1: House now TT. You know this is a topic that's
Speaker 1: near and dear to my heart because I went to
Speaker 1: an HBCU Hampton University, And even though I went to
Speaker 1: a different school from X, I can relate to the
Speaker 1: level of pride he has when he's speaking about his
Speaker 1: alma mater. And I think it's something that most of
Speaker 1: us who attended an hbc you can relate to.
Speaker 5: Oh. I was in the airport recently.
Speaker 1: And I had on my Hampton sweatshirt, the same one
Speaker 1: that you have, and this man came up to me
Speaker 1: and he was like, I heard Howard was real?
Speaker 2: Hu.
Speaker 1: I said, you want to fight in the general facility
Speaker 1: and he was like, he was like, I even go
Speaker 1: to Howard or Hampton. He was like, I just went
Speaker 1: to another HBCU, So I like to keep the HBCU
Speaker 1: pride riled up, you know. I was like, Bro, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get me kicked out of this was in TSA.
Speaker 5: They're gonna put you on the no fly list, you know.
Speaker 2: Like I said in LAB fifty one, I feel like
Speaker 2: I would have loved going to an HBCU and I
Speaker 2: should have went to Hampton so I could be there
Speaker 2: with you, my friend, Like that.
Speaker 5: Would have been lick. Could you imagine us being together
Speaker 5: in undergrad we.
Speaker 2: Went have graduated, think we can still be there or
Speaker 2: kicked out?
Speaker 1: Now let's get to the juicy stuff. With homecoming season,
Speaker 1: there is always some t to b spilled, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to football. Earlier in the semester, in LAP
Speaker 1: fifty one, we talked about the rise of HBCU football teams,
Speaker 1: especially with the former NFL players going back to coach
Speaker 1: at those teams, and we saw this with Jackson State
Speaker 1: and mister Prime Time himself Deon Sanders.
Speaker 6: Yes, and I have to start with the fact that
Speaker 6: fam you, my beloved, all my Mary y'all know, I
Speaker 6: believe that Range and Green. We are the number one
Speaker 6: public HBCU for the fourth consecutive year. We're so proud
Speaker 6: of that. There was some drama between Alabama State and
Speaker 6: Jackson State during Alabama State's homecoming. Now, you know, it's
Speaker 6: disrespectful when you invite a good team to come and
Speaker 6: play you on your homecoming. And what Coach Prime said
Speaker 6: is that Alabama State was trying to sell out their
Speaker 6: stadium by inviting Jackson State.
Speaker 1: Listen, Coach Prime, Deon Sanders is gonna bring the crowd,
Speaker 1: and Jackson State has been winning, so people definitely want
Speaker 1: to come see them play.
Speaker 6: They took that as disrespect. They even caught it a
Speaker 6: money game, basically saying, y'all gonna get y'all money because
Speaker 6: y'all gona sell out y'all stadium because y'all invited Jackson
Speaker 6: State to come, so y'all you want your money. All
Speaker 6: money ain't good money. And they got beat. It was
Speaker 6: a closely contested game, but listen, it led to some
Speaker 6: acrimony and after the game, you know, the coaches go
Speaker 6: out on the field to shake hands at the end
Speaker 6: of the game. They shook hands, but coach Eddie Robinson
Speaker 6: junior of Alabama State refused to give him a bro hug.
Speaker 6: He put his hand out and put his hand on
Speaker 6: his chest, like, nah, get out of my face.
Speaker 2: And in the press conference after the game, they were
Speaker 2: still exchanging some words.
Speaker 5: I guess please, ain't up front.
Speaker 11: It's just like I thought. There was a lot of
Speaker 11: disrespect the whole week, and so you're not gonna be
Speaker 11: disrespectful the whole week in the media.
Speaker 5: We didn't talk.
Speaker 11: In the pre game. I was out there the whole time,
Speaker 11: Like the fifty yard line, he walked through our whole huddle.
Speaker 3: On our end zone.
Speaker 11: He came a long way around to get to hit
Speaker 11: side of the field in pre game. But that wasn't
Speaker 11: classic at all. And so in the postgame, I'm not
Speaker 11: about to give you to Obama brothers. Y know, I'm
Speaker 11: gonna shake your hand.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go on.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna always be respectful and respect the game. I'm
Speaker 11: living on the shows of the swag. He ain't swap.
Speaker 10: You know, I'm swack.
Speaker 3: He ain't swack.
Speaker 11: So he's in the conference doing a great job. Came
Speaker 11: not that, got a great team. Love all that, but
Speaker 11: you're not gonna come here in disrespect being my team
Speaker 11: and my school and didn't want to grow up, shake
Speaker 11: my hand and get the hell on.
Speaker 6: Period.
Speaker 5: You got the w great job. I hope he comes.
Speaker 6: Back next year.
Speaker 11: I pray he don't get a part five the job
Speaker 11: so we can play them next year in Jackson, and
Speaker 11: I prayed they put us for their damn on.
Speaker 2: So that's what Coach Robinson had to say, And let's
Speaker 2: listen to what Coach Prime or Deon Sanders had to
Speaker 2: say in response.
Speaker 12: I listened very carefully when people are upset, because usually
Speaker 12: what they say they mean it, but's whatever you meant
Speaker 12: that mess. And one of the comments that kind of
Speaker 12: disturbed me out of all the comments, and I'm not swack?
Speaker 5: Who is?
Speaker 12: I got time today? Who is swack? If ain't Swacke?
Speaker 12: Who is swaite? If ain't swack? Who is Swacke? If
Speaker 12: I ain't who is swat baby?
Speaker 5: Who is?
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite clips on the internet
Speaker 2: right now, and I've been saying if I'm not swack,
Speaker 2: who's swacked?
Speaker 5: All over my house since that interview dropped.
Speaker 2: But you know, all of this makes me think about
Speaker 2: our linguistics episode and how you know. Some of this
Speaker 2: might not make sense to some folks, but luckily for
Speaker 2: all of us, we've got a resident country grammar expert
Speaker 2: as one of the most of this podcast, a Kida
Speaker 2: break down. What coach Prime Dion Sanders what he's saying.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I think I have to back
Speaker 1: up and just say he's saying swack because somebody I
Speaker 1: know thought he was saying swipe and I was like, no, swack,
Speaker 1: swac And his football team is in the Southwestern Atlantic
Speaker 1: Conference and so the acronym for that is swack. And
Speaker 1: so he's saying, if I ain't swag, like, if I
Speaker 1: am not the embodiment of what it means to be
Speaker 1: a part of this conference, then you tell me who is?
Speaker 1: And so if you translate that to Shakespearean, now I'm
Speaker 1: just if not me, then who is what Deon Sanders
Speaker 1: is saying. And he's like, I am it? And the
Speaker 1: baby on there do you hear how he said?
Speaker 5: Who is swack? Baby? And the pauses?
Speaker 1: It's just it's a prime example of using space like
Speaker 1: I love it, and it is very confrontational.
Speaker 5: Here's a lot of bravado. Yes, these are fighting words.
Speaker 5: If you don't know.
Speaker 6: So it's a lot going on in the HBCU world,
Speaker 6: in the world of college football. And again shout out
Speaker 6: to fan you number one public HBCU or the fourth
Speaker 6: consecutive year in county. Love y'all tt love youse the
Speaker 6: key of my fellow HBCU Alum. I'm gonna talk to y'all, swet.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to come back on the show with
Speaker 6: the two dopest scientists around. I'm gonna holler at y'all,
Speaker 6: lady and all out peaks.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break, and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some of your favorite labs from
Speaker 1: the semester.
Speaker 13: Hey, my name is Destiny. I'm from Brooklyn, and my
Speaker 13: favorite episode this season was Lab seventy eight. What about
Speaker 13: your Friend's Part two on attachment styles? Because that is
Speaker 13: something I have been struggling with for so long, but
Speaker 13: it's great to know, like how to work past it
Speaker 13: or how to work with other people with different attachment styles.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Destiny.
Speaker 2: It was so great to hear from you, and it's
Speaker 2: nice to hear that our conversation with doctor Marissa Gifranco
Speaker 2: was useful. And now I'm curious. Did the episode help
Speaker 2: you identify your attachment style? Have you had any difficult
Speaker 2: but necessary conversations with your friends since you listen to
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: I don't know about destiny, but I know that I
Speaker 1: have definitely been more aware of my attachment style and
Speaker 1: try not to make assumptions that my friends have the
Speaker 1: same attachment style that I do, especially after you told
Speaker 1: me it was a rough ride.
Speaker 2: A no, but it's a ride you love to be on.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like a roller coaster. You screaming, but
Speaker 2: you're having a good time.
Speaker 1: For more, please check out our recent episode What About
Speaker 1: Your Friends Part Two and doctor Marissa G. Franco's book
Speaker 1: Platonic How the Science of Attachment can help you make
Speaker 1: and keep Friends.
Speaker 2: I really love doctor Franco's book. I have so many
Speaker 2: tabs in it and it really helped me personally because
Speaker 2: of the attachment style that I have, which is anxious,
Speaker 2: and so I tend to have more anxiety when it
Speaker 2: comes to making friends and keeping the friends that I have,
Speaker 2: and it helped me get out of my own head
Speaker 2: and give me the tool that I need to be
Speaker 2: able to be a better friend even though I am
Speaker 2: feeling these feelings. You know, I feel like, even regardless
Speaker 2: of your attachment style, we all have some baseline anxiety
Speaker 2: going on. Yes, And that makes me think back to
Speaker 2: LAP thirty eight with neuroscientist doctor Wendy Suzuki in her
Speaker 2: book Good Anxiety. You remember she was telling us how
Speaker 2: to harness anxiety for.
Speaker 1: Good and she's like, you should be a little bit concerned,
Speaker 1: you should be a little bit nervous. And I was like, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm past a little bit. I am paralyzed, okay, But
Speaker 1: you know, I remember being surprised to learn that anxiety
Speaker 1: was an emotion in the first place. Like, up until
Speaker 1: that point, I was like, oh, anxiety is a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anxiety actually helps you in certain situations. I
Speaker 2: love the analogy that she had where you know, like
Speaker 2: if a animals in the woods and they hear a
Speaker 2: stick break, their anxiety levels go up, but it helps
Speaker 2: them be on alert so that they can, you know,
Speaker 2: defend themselves if need be.
Speaker 1: And you know, she helped us understand how our modern
Speaker 1: lives are moving so much faster, with so much information
Speaker 1: and things always being on It's moving so much faster
Speaker 1: than our hardware. Our brains are still in the Woods,
Speaker 1: and we're living in Times Square with lights and bills
Speaker 1: and notifications, you know, And so we're on constant alert,
Speaker 1: right and we're seeing healthcare providers start taking note of this.
Speaker 1: So in September, an advisory group called the US Preventive
Speaker 1: Services Task Force recommended that doctors screened all adult patients
Speaker 1: under sixty five for anxiety. But just recently, now that's adults.
Speaker 1: They also recommended it for children over eight to be
Speaker 1: screened for anxiety too.
Speaker 2: Wow, honestly, it's not surprising that, you know, a majority
Speaker 2: of folks young and old are dealing with anxiety. We're
Speaker 2: coming off two plus years of a pandemic. Joe Biden says,
Speaker 2: the pandemic is over. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2: And we're dealing with inflation. I mean, even Cardi b
Speaker 2: has talked about it, and she's rich.
Speaker 1: And starting to think about inflation makes my head hurt. Okay,
Speaker 1: inflation potential recession. I was so glad we got to
Speaker 1: talk to doctor Vanessa Perry in Lab seventy nine where
Speaker 1: she really unpacked inflation recession interest rates. And even though
Speaker 1: it was published last month, it's still relevant. It's still
Speaker 1: important right now exactly.
Speaker 2: Just a couple of weeks ago, JP Morgan Chase CEO
Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond warned of quote very very serious changes in
Speaker 2: the economy that could pave the way for a recession
Speaker 2: in the next six to nine months.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, President Joe Biden is saying that he doubts there
Speaker 1: will be a recession, and if there is, that it
Speaker 1: will be very slight. Breah, I don't know what very
Speaker 1: slight means. Slight for who, Yeah, slight is very unclear.
Speaker 1: And while we can't know for sure what very slight means,
Speaker 1: we do know for sure that many Americans are continuing
Speaker 1: to struggle with rising prices.
Speaker 2: Just a few weeks ago, the Labor Department released new
Speaker 2: data showing that consumer prices have been rising more quickly
Speaker 2: than expected.
Speaker 1: And remember we talked about that in the lab. And
Speaker 1: there are also some really great graphs on our show
Speaker 1: notes just to show you how quickly it is.
Speaker 5: Climbing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking highest level in forty years climbing.
Speaker 1: M it's got on climbing gear and it needs to
Speaker 1: take it easy.
Speaker 2: Crampons everything. It's ready. It's not free solo climbing.
Speaker 1: TT What were some of your favorite moments from this season.
Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite moments from the season,
Speaker 2: which I was really glad that we were able to
Speaker 2: publish on the feed, was our live show at the
Speaker 2: Great Northern.
Speaker 5: That was our first in person live show. I was
Speaker 5: so nervous.
Speaker 2: You didn't look nervous, and you kept looking at me like,
Speaker 2: why are you so nervous?
Speaker 1: Yes, why are you nervous?
Speaker 11: Girl?
Speaker 1: We do this all the time. We do we get
Speaker 1: to have more friends laughing.
Speaker 2: With us, I know, but I was just like, man,
Speaker 2: I really hope that they are laughing.
Speaker 1: And if they don't laugh, I'm going to look at
Speaker 1: the audience and say, didn't you find that funny?
Speaker 5: My friends making people feel awkward?
Speaker 1: I think we should all be uncomfortable together now. If
Speaker 1: you're not laughing at I'm uncomfortable, now, it's your turn
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: No, but I loved it. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: It was such a great opportunity to take Dope Labs
Speaker 2: on the road, meet a lot of the people who
Speaker 2: have been longtime listeners, and you know, switch up the
Speaker 2: format a little bit from our normal Dope Labs episodes
Speaker 2: that we do in studio for a live audience. It
Speaker 2: was so much fun and I love being able to
Speaker 2: do that with you friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, we've done a few virtual live shows
Speaker 1: and we've done more live shows since now. I know
Speaker 1: this is early, but we do know in the spring
Speaker 1: we will be back for one of our favorite shows yep,
Speaker 1: with one of our favorite partners. Yes, and that's the
Speaker 1: Boston Museum of Science. So if you're in the Boston
Speaker 1: area the New England Corridor, look for us in spring
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Dope Labs will.
Speaker 2: Be there, yes, and make sure you're following us on
Speaker 2: social media so that you find out when the exact
Speaker 2: day is.
Speaker 5: What's your favorite episode?
Speaker 1: One of my favorite episodes TT was the Oyster episode.
Speaker 1: Oh Yes, we've been supporting oysters for a long time.
Speaker 5: Me and you oyster fans.
Speaker 1: Yes, together friend, keeping the Gulf Coast alive. Yes, but
Speaker 1: to hear from Bill Walton about all the amazing efforts
Speaker 1: that he's doing with Oyster South. They just had a
Speaker 1: big oyster festival here in Atlanta. I think maybe it
Speaker 1: was Indicator, Yes, and Bill's group was also there. It's
Speaker 1: called Landlocked, and so it's just bringing in all these
Speaker 1: different people in oyster aquaculture and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know what that means now because I listened to
Speaker 1: our lab and we got to talk to him and
Speaker 1: learn so many different things about all that goes into growing, maintaining,
Speaker 1: and harvesting oysters. So it was a lot of fun
Speaker 1: for me. I really liked that episode.
Speaker 5: You know another episode that I liked it. I know
Speaker 5: you liked what our.
Speaker 2: Episode for Black Music Month where we had on Doctor Mark,
Speaker 2: Anthony Neil, and Ninth Wonder. That episode was so impactful
Speaker 2: and we were able to add in so much amazing
Speaker 2: music to help tell the story. And Ninth Wonder and
Speaker 2: doctor Neil are just I mean, they are leaders when
Speaker 2: it comes to the music, and so we were really
Speaker 2: happy to have them on the show and we made
Speaker 2: this really beautiful episode. I really encourage everybody to go
Speaker 2: back and listen to that episode. It is so sonically
Speaker 2: just powerful.
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody was asking me recently, like, when they think
Speaker 1: about the music that's the soundscape to today's time, how
Speaker 1: can they find the music that was the soundscape to
Speaker 1: all these other eras? And I was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: you need to google doctor Mark Anthony Neil, and then
Speaker 1: you will have the answers to.
Speaker 5: All of that.
Speaker 1: Read every book that he's published. Yeah, and you can
Speaker 1: find doctor Mark Anthony Neil at Left of Black podcast.
Speaker 1: It's more like a video podcast and he brings on
Speaker 1: tons of guests and ask amazing questions. Definitely check him out.
Speaker 1: And ninth Wonder is doing a lot of kind of
Speaker 1: like live shows again. He's still teaching and he just
Speaker 1: released a shoot with KD.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I saw that. I was like, dang, he's doing.
Speaker 1: Everything's guests experts are doing it big.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: When we first set out to make semester four and
Speaker 1: go weekly, a lot of people doubt it that we
Speaker 1: could do it, that we could go weekly, that we
Speaker 1: could quadruple our episodes and do it in such a
Speaker 1: short time skill a lot of people didn't believe in us.
Speaker 1: I was people, but I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my gosh, this is a
Speaker 2: lot of episodes at such a rapid pace. I knew
Speaker 2: we could do it, and I knew we would get
Speaker 2: to this point, but I was a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1: But listen, the reason I knew we could do it
Speaker 1: this is because we have such an amazing team and
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it a lot, but I think
Speaker 1: it's really important to highlight the folks that keep this going.
Speaker 1: And it's not just me and TT y'all, they're actually
Speaker 1: the people that are training us. They're like, please shut up, stop,
Speaker 1: it's too much. And so that's the audio guru herself,
Speaker 1: doctor Jenny Ratlick Mass, doctor of Audio.
Speaker 2: And her right hand Lydia Smith, who is also a
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Speaker 1: Yes, wave Runner Studios is saving the day all the
Speaker 1: time and making sure that even when TT and I
Speaker 1: are like, what about this one last thing and can
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Speaker 1: they're really making sure that A we don't run over time,
Speaker 1: B we are factually accurate, and.
Speaker 5: That we are staying true to who we say we
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Speaker 1: And so we're so grateful to be working with them.
Speaker 1: And wave Runner brought us some more friends, Rob Smerciak.
Speaker 2: Yes, Rob has been doing such an amazing job on
Speaker 2: our sound design. He has really taking us up a
Speaker 2: notch this semester where we've been able to really do
Speaker 2: something that we thought was possible, but we didn't know
Speaker 2: if it was possible with us, and Rob just said
Speaker 2: yes you can and just made these really amazing episodes,
Speaker 2: So we're really grateful to Rob and we got to
Speaker 2: think our og mixer, Hannes Brown, who has been with
Speaker 2: us since semester one. He does an amazing job and
Speaker 2: we are just so grateful to be able to work
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Speaker 1: You don't want to hear our voices unmixed. We're yell
Speaker 1: right now they sound like this. And also throughout the
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Speaker 2: Our one thing for this lab our semester finale is
Speaker 2: you everyone listening right now. We are so grateful that
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Speaker 1: That's right. That's it for Lab eighty four.
Speaker 5: You gonna miss us.
Speaker 1: Even though this is the last lab of this semester,
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