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Speaker 2: Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore science,

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm swack.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking highest level in forty years climbing.

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Speaker 1: TT What were some of your favorite moments from this season.

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Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite moments from the season,

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Speaker 1: Yes, why are you nervous?

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Speaker 1: We do this all the time. We do we get

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Speaker 1: I think we should all be uncomfortable together now. If

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Speaker 5: No, but I loved it. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: It was such a great opportunity to take Dope Labs

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, we've done a few virtual live shows

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Speaker 1: with one of our favorite partners. Yes, and that's the

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Speaker 2: Be there, yes, and make sure you're following us on

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Speaker 5: What's your favorite episode?

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite episodes TT was the Oyster episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh Yes, we've been supporting oysters for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Me and you oyster fans.

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Speaker 5: You know another episode that I liked it. I know

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Speaker 5: All of that.

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Speaker 1: Read every book that he's published. Yeah, and you can

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Speaker 1: It's more like a video podcast and he brings on

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Speaker 1: And ninth Wonder is doing a lot of kind of

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: When we first set out to make semester four and

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my gosh, this is a

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Speaker 1: they're really making sure that A we don't run over time,

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Speaker 1: And so we're so grateful to be working with them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Rob has been doing such an amazing job on

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Speaker 2: if it was possible with us, and Rob just said

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Speaker 2: So we're really grateful to Rob and we got to

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Speaker 2: think our og mixer, Hannes Brown, who has been with

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Speaker 1: You don't want to hear our voices unmixed. We're yell

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Speaker 2: Orlando and Griffin Jennings, and a big shout out to

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Speaker 2: a big shout out to Spotify for always being super

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Speaker 2: Our one thing for this lab our semester finale is

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Speaker 2: you everyone listening right now. We are so grateful that

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Speaker 5: It's been so special, such.

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Speaker 2: A wild ride that we have loved every step of

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Speaker 2: so thank you so much, and we'll see you next semester.

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Speaker 1: That's right. That's it for Lab eighty four.

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Speaker 5: You gonna miss us.

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Speaker 1: Even though this is the last lab of this semester,

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Speaker 1: it's never too early to start preparing for next year,

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Speaker 1: that's right. If you want to get ahead, you read

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Speaker 1: the syllabus.

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Speaker 5: Yep, you got them.

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Speaker 2: Get the book before the semester starts and read the

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Speaker 1: And so that's what we're trying to do. If you

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Speaker 1: a call. Two zero two five six seven seven zero

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