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Speaker 1: Old Lake, It's live, It's Sunday Night in November thirteen

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Speaker 1: year O for Lord twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Everybody can swim in the shallow end, but November, kids,

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Speaker 2: that's the deep end. And the sad fact is not

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Speaker 2: all of you are going to make out here in

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Speaker 2: the deep end.

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Speaker 1: We started to learn that in earnest.

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Speaker 2: Last night, we were jam packed Hyatape completely and utterly frozen

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Speaker 2: downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Full Week eleven recap. I got thoughts

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Speaker 2: all over the place. We've got a fair amount of

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Speaker 2: intel that's going to be woven through the fabric of

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Speaker 2: tonight's show. Got coaching search update, It's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about, very important show. Don't miss

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Speaker 2: this one. This is not one that you want to

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Speaker 2: flip through. You're just gonna want to listen to the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. Sorry, it has to be that way this

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Speaker 2: time of year. What is happening in Texas? Just put

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Speaker 2: a period there. You can go to College station, you

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Speaker 2: can go to Austin. We're not gonna go to Fort Worth.

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Speaker 2: We have answers there, but I got questions elsewhere. You

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Speaker 2: have zero shot, nor do I at predicting these conference races.

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Speaker 2: As it turns out, told you November was gonna be wild,

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Speaker 2: and it is and it's not done yet. The every

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Speaker 2: given Saturday tour. We have a big announcement coming up

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Speaker 2: about thirty five or forty minutes from now. I am

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Speaker 2: fresh out of New Orleans. Flew back this morning. Loved

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Speaker 2: our trip down there, will be back, will indeed be

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Speaker 2: back eight I don't know, like a metric ton of food.

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Speaker 2: So it was a good trip there. Paradise, Texas, tuned

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Speaker 2: in Dixon, North Dakota, tuned in McCarley, Mississippi, Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Speaker 2: They're watching us everywhere. I cease to be amazed when

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Speaker 2: we go through airports on the road at the compliments

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Speaker 2: We are close to one hundred and fifty k and direct.

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Speaker 2: Colin and I we were just in the control room

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Speaker 2: talking about when we were out at Elit eleven, remember

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Speaker 2: back in the summer, feels like yesterday, and we hit

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Speaker 1: I want us to forget about Thanksgiving. I want us

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Speaker 1: to forget about Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I want to get this done by this weekend, by

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Speaker 1: That's all. Let's dive into the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: PCU is rolling and in the process they have run

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Speaker 2: over Texas. Seventeen to ten was the final A lot

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Speaker 2: of rules on other shows. You know, you listen to

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Speaker 2: any given podcast out there, you watch any given show

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Speaker 2: out there, a lot of rules, not a lot of

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Speaker 1: No kicks to the groin, be home for dinner, don't lose.

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Speaker 2: To food, and rice didn't play in this game, and

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Speaker 2: we talk winners first.

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Speaker 1: That's the other rule.

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Speaker 2: So Texas is gonna have to wait a second because

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Speaker 2: TCUs kind of sort of absolutely running things out there

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Speaker 2: right now. They have clinched a spot have the horn

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Speaker 2: Frogs in the Big twelve championship game. Sunny Dykes is

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Speaker 2: in serious contention for all kinds of awards, including Head

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Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. He's ruining the future, by the way,

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Speaker 2: for a lot of head coaches. What I mean by

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Speaker 2: that's pretty obvious. Normally you want to sell your athletic

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Speaker 2: director and your administration and your fan base that when

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Speaker 2: I'm a new coach, I need you guys to give

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Speaker 1: Did I just get shorter? Caling, what happened? Did the

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Speaker 2: I want you to give me two years minimum, maybe

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Speaker 2: the Sonny Dyke's protocol is going to be put right

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Speaker 1: And that's going to sound a little something like this.

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Speaker 1: Well he took TCU undefeated maybe to.

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Speaker 2: The conference championship game in year one. Well he had

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Speaker 2: TCU right there in the mix for the playoff around

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving in year one. Remind me again, why with better

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Speaker 2: resources and deeper pockets, we need more time and you

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Speaker 1: Ruined it. Shame on Sunny Dikes. He's ruined this. But

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Speaker 2: He's getting things done there and it's fun to watch

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Speaker 2: because it's a team that wasn't supposed to be there,

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Speaker 2: and it yet again just completely takes a bowling ball.

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Speaker 2: It takes a sledgehammer to that tired old, worn out

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Speaker 2: narrative that this was a sport for the few and

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Speaker 2: the structure was built against you, and none of that's true.

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Speaker 2: If you do things the right way, if you make

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Speaker 2: the right hires, you don't need have to have the

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Speaker 2: most talented rosters. They had the second most talented roster

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Speaker 2: on the field last night, and they still.

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Speaker 1: Got the job done. Texas was held to one hundred

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Speaker 2: Yards last night. That is their lowest output since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: And that shocked me a little bit. If you were

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Speaker 2: you've seen Texas and you've seen TCU play, and you

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Speaker 2: were to have asked us Friday, TCU is.

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Speaker 1: Going to win? How many points do you think they

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Speaker 2: I would have thought thirty one was a good starting

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Speaker 2: then when you press someone as to why, they'll say, oh,

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Speaker 2: that defense is going to cost him. No, defense actually

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Speaker 1: Neither of them were.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one points is what I thought they needed. In reality,

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Speaker 1: The model. Let's just talk to the model right quick.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you have been rubbed the wrong way

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Speaker 2: Then we want to calibrate and adjust. But as you know,

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Speaker 2: I have had a very very ugly public, long standing

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Speaker 2: beef with the model when it comes to Texas, I

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Speaker 2: like you have thought that the model had Texas overrated,

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Speaker 2: and so this fool right here and I'm holding up

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Speaker 2: the model, the computer. For those of you listening on podcasts,

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Speaker 2: you again not only favored Texas by a touchdown, you

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Speaker 2: favored them by ten and a half. Remember the model

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Speaker 2: looked at Vegas and said seven not even enough. Let's

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Speaker 1: You are an.

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Speaker 2: I'm done with the model when it comes to Texas. Now,

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Speaker 2: the model made us a lot of money. Yesterday we

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Speaker 2: went nine to four and one, and shame on Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, shame on you kicking that field goal late,

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Speaker 2: but we still profited. But when it comes to Texas,

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Speaker 2: you are not to be trusted. This model is not

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Speaker 2: guess not to be trusted. Nothing can ever get rolling

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Speaker 2: with this team. TCU's rolling. They're consistent. They win every

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Speaker 1: You know, they go to Kansas State and they beat

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Speaker 2: One of thirteen on third down padlockstat one of thirteen

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Speaker 1: And that's how bad they were on third down. Last night.

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Speaker 2: They had twenty eight yards rushing, not on the first drive,

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Speaker 2: not in the first quarter. This team with Bjeon Robinson

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Speaker 2: in the second half for Texas the last three games.

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Speaker 2: So I could go on and on and on. You

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Speaker 2: know how highly I think of Steve Sarkeesian. They are

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Speaker 2: Here is where I differ with some. I had some

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Speaker 2: of my Texas buddies text to me saying, we're screwed. Well,

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Speaker 2: yeah you are tonight, but what are you talking about? Specifically?

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Speaker 2: They said Arch was in town for this game. I said, okay,

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Speaker 2: and he's committed to you, why wouldn't he be there?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you ain't gonna commit it. He ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: be committed for long, bro, That's what they said to me.

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Speaker 1: I said back to them.

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Speaker 2: If anything, this reinforces that he's got an immediate shot

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Speaker 2: to take over the day he steps on campus. Who

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Speaker 2: is Arch Manning watching right now saying I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: to sit behind that cat for two years?

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Speaker 1: Nobody?

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Speaker 2: In fact, if you want a nice, heated argument, walk

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Speaker 2: at this point, Quinn or Hudson card who's the better quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Then what you need to do is you need to

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Speaker 2: They won't even realize you left the room, they will

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Speaker 2: just slap fight amongst themselves for an hour. So that's

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Speaker 2: the state of Texas right now. I cannot say enough

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Speaker 2: about TCU's level of play, just the overall level of

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Speaker 2: has been kind of a competitive shooting.

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Speaker 1: Gallery all year long.

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Speaker 2: You've got one perfect team record wise left out there.

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Speaker 2: But Texas goes to Kansas State like I talked about,

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Speaker 2: and they beat him. TCU goes to Texas yesterday, beats them.

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Speaker 2: Kansas State goes to Baylor and just wipes Baylor. And

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Speaker 2: what is the net result of all this? To show

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Speaker 2: you how even this is, To show you how unpredictable

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Speaker 2: this is in the eyes of oddsmakers week to week.

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Speaker 2: After all that, you take your transit of property, you

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Speaker 2: throw it out the window. TCU goes to Baylor. That

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Speaker 2: same Baylor team that just lost thirty one to three yesterday.

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Speaker 2: For lost Baylor and TCU is a three point favorite.

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Speaker 2: Where have you seen that most recently? I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: And the reason the folks at Auburn are so worked

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Speaker 2: But it's just nice to watch a guy pull something

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Speaker 2: And that's why if you turned on that game and

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Speaker 2: The thing thirteen to ten wasn't exactly pleasing to the eye.

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Speaker 2: If you hit the stop button right now, it already

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Speaker 1: That means a lot.

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Speaker 2: It means something to those folks. It would mean a

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Speaker 2: I think Lane Kiffin is very much in this I

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Speaker 1: For this job.

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Speaker 2: well known. And I'm not sitting here trying to hold

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Speaker 2: against the guy. I'm just saying there are consequences for actions,

440
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Speaker 2: and some of those are not easily forgotten or forgiven administratively.

441
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Speaker 1: Let me leave it at that.

442
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Speaker 2: I think there are I think there are at least

443
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Speaker 2: two really big names out there that would move the

444
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: needle to ten that no one's talking about. I think

445
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 2: that John Cohen is moving behind the scenes really quickly.

446
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to have to wait a

447
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Speaker 2: long time. But I don't believe that everything is as

448
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: it looks on the surface. Some of the very high

449
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: profile candidates that you've heard about, like Kiff and I

450
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Speaker 2: believe are in this thing. I think there are some names,

451
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: at least two, that are in this that would be

452
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Speaker 2: headline news that no one's talking about. So in other words,

453
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: watch out for those hot boards out there. Watch out

454
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Speaker 2: for those lists, because, as we've seen oftentimes in coaching searches,

455
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Speaker 2: who in the world was predicting Brian Kelly to LSU.

456
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Speaker 2: I mean the most dialed in LSU insiders when they

457
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: were giving you their list, whose list had Brian Kelly

458
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Speaker 2: on it. I think this coaching search could go that way,

459
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Speaker 2: is my point. So could be Kiffin, in which case

460
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: no one would be surprised, or it could be filling

461
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Speaker 2: the blank, in which case everyone would be surprised, including

462
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Speaker 2: the places that those respective individuals may be at. Right now,

463
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Speaker 2: Jim bow In Texas A and M, what do we

464
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Speaker 2: say here?

465
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Speaker 1: What do we say? Never?

466
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Speaker 2: In my worst nightmares for this program this year, in

467
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Speaker 2: my absolute worst of worst case scenarios, I never thought

468
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Speaker 2: that miss a bowl game.

469
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Speaker 1: They're going to miss a bowl game. To give you

470
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Speaker 1: an idea of how bad this year.

471
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Speaker 2: Has been, Yukon Jim Morris, Yukon Huskies are going bowling,

472
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Speaker 2: and A and M will not A and M has

473
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Speaker 2: the worst record in the SEC.

474
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Speaker 1: They are three and seven.

475
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Speaker 2: Vandy is four and six. That's how bad things are

476
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Speaker 2: at Texas A and M. Right now now, I told

477
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Speaker 2: you about a month ago. In fact, what was it

478
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Speaker 2: coming out of the coming out of the Bama game?

479
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, coming out of the Bama game, I

480
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: told you, well, out of the out of the South

481
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Speaker 2: Carolina game.

482
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Speaker 1: Goodness, it's tough to look.

483
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Speaker 2: At that graphic loss loss loss lossand it's a lot

484
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Speaker 2: of losses in a row. Anyway, coming out of the

485
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Speaker 2: South Carolina game, which was a month ago, now, I

486
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: told you this season's dead for Texas A and M.

487
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Speaker 1: So what I wasn't going.

488
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Speaker 2: To do was continue to do a new autopsy every week.

489
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Speaker 2: When it's dead, it's dead, and I'm going to do

490
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Speaker 2: one autopsy, and we assignated the blame that week. And

491
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Speaker 2: I told you it is a certainty that he has

492
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Speaker 2: to make a move at offensive coordinator. I have had

493
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Speaker 2: conversations in the past week that make me really really

494
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Speaker 2: confident he understands that, and he was going to do that,

495
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: and the checkbook will be wide open, so theoretically that

496
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: he could go get anyone who's willing to come there.

497
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Speaker 2: Having said that, there's some weird energy around the program

498
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: right now. A and M fans who follow it day

499
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: to day, they know nationally you've probably picked up on it.

500
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Speaker 1: Let me just give you an example. I am all

501
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: about rules, I'm all about structure. That's fine.

502
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: Mus Muhammad didn't play last night for them. Jimbo said,

503
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Speaker 2: it's an internal thing. Mus Muhammad said, not an internal

504
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Speaker 2: Here's why I wore long sleeves and he didn't start

505
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: me because it's his rule that I don't wear long sleeves.

506
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: The problem is, I can go find you film this

507
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: year of mus Muhammad wearing long sleeves in games, so

508
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: it may be a recent rule I don't know. The

509
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: point is that is one little example of a little

510
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: small mountain of examples now of just these weird things

511
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: that you hear out of the A and M program

512
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: to where it almost is like if you were to

513
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Speaker 2: take both middle fingers and throw them up in the

514
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: air in full DGAF mode. Kids teach the parents of

515
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Speaker 2: the acronym there. It's not too dissimilar to how Jimbo

516
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: acts right now. So I don't even acknowledge the firing talk.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't acknowledge the hot seat talk. It's not where

518
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: we are right now. Something outside of the realm of

519
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: football would have to enter the equation for that to

520
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: even be a conversation this year for me. And I'm

521
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: not saying it has I'm just saying it feels weird.

522
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: It's one thing to just suck. That program sucks right now,

523
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: that team does at least, and it also feels weird

524
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: around the program. So I don't really know what to

525
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: make of it. But as far as football goes, I

526
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: feel no different than I did.

527
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: A few weeks back.

528
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: The season was dead on arrival, then it is still

529
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: dead on arrival. It doesn't matter how much you try

530
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: and resuscitate it dead is dead, is dead. No new

531
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Speaker 2: autopsy every week. But it's going to be a very

532
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: very interesting December.

533
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Speaker 1: In January around there, I won't have to worry.

534
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: About bowls, so you will be able to get to

535
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Speaker 2: work immediately following the LSU game in a couple of weeks.

536
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Good pacing so far, I

537
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: think good pacing. Let's take a sip here right quick.

538
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: Director Colin reminds me in my ear that he and

539
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: all of us will would like you to hit the

540
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Speaker 2: thumbs up button because there are like forty two hundred

541
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: of you watching live and we're not even over one

542
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: thousand yet, and that's.

543
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Speaker 1: Just that's not a good ratio. We want to be better.

544
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: We want to have a better hit percentage. So thumbs

545
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Speaker 2: up and subscribe if you haven't already. The drive to

546
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty k subs continues. Alabama beat Ole

547
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: Miss yesterday, thirty to twenty four. And what did we

548
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: know before kickoff of this game? We knew before kickoff,

549
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: or at least I did, because I was watching in

550
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Speaker 2: the two lane press box that LSU had won.

551
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that game later.

552
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: LSU had won over Arkansas, which meant Bama's out of

553
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: it as far as the SEC is concerned. Ole miss

554
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: out of it as far as the SEC is concerned

555
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: if they lose this game. So we have certainly dissimilar

556
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: motivation levels here, or did we? And this was again

557
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: a game that I thought was really fun to watch.

558
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: There was good execution at times, there was horrific execution

559
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: at times.

560
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: That's football, that's what happens. That's the way it's supposed

561
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: to look.

562
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: Fortunately, both of these programs are full of competitors. And

563
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: for competitors, it's nice if you're playing for the playoff,

564
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: it's nice if you're playing for conference championships. Pride to

565
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: a casual person doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot.

566
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: You need ramifications on the line.

567
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: Pride to a competitor is worth more than any of

568
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: that stuff, and if that stuff comes along with it,

569
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: that's great. Playing for pride means a lot to a competitor.

570
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: And that's why if you were to watch this game

571
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: yesterday and you covered up the records, just put a

572
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: little piece of athletic tape over the screen so you

573
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: can't see the records.

574
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Speaker 1: The level of play.

575
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: The effort level, especially in the second half, was requisite

576
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Speaker 2: to what you would expect if there were postseason spots

577
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: on the line.

578
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: It's exactly what it should have looked like.

579
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not into just rewarding you for trying hard,

580
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: but I'll point out something in just a second to

581
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: maybe backtrack my own sentence there, maybe I rewarding you

582
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: for trying harm. This is the fifth game, as it

583
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: turns out, for Bama, that's come down to either the

584
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: last play or the last few plays, last thirty seconds

585
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: or so.

586
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Think about that.

587
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes it feels like they go a decade, decades a

588
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: long time. Sometimes it feels like they go years under

589
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: Nick Saban without that. But the Texas game, Final play,

590
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: A and M Final Play, Tennessee Final Play, LSU Final play,

591
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: this one, I think the last thirty seconds or so,

592
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: and there was a fourth down throw to the end

593
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: zone and then Bama took a couple of knees and

594
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: they ran out the clock. But that's the way it's

595
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: been for them this year, which makes it fun because

596
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: when you look back, depending on which perspective you want

597
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: to use, you're gonna be able to say Bama was

598
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: two or three plays away from being undefeated, and then

599
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: someone else is gonna be able to say, yeah, but

600
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: they were also two or three more plays away from

601
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: being seven and five.

602
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Both of those sentences.

603
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Are going to be true, and there's just not been

604
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: much margin for Ara this year. Look at Nick Saban

605
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: celebrating there a lot of people laughed at that yesterday. Well,

606
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: just compartmentalize that for twenty twenty three. But it sounds strange,

607
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: But the Alabama run defense didn't have bad day yesterday. Now,

608
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: the reason it sounds strange is because I'm looking at

609
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: a piece of paper here that tells me Old Miss

610
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: ran for nearly two hundred yards.

611
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: But when you consider they ran it forty.

612
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: Nine times for one ninety one, that's three point nine

613
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: per carry. And if you told me Old Miss was

614
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: only putting up three point nine per carry Friday, I

615
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: would have felt good about Alabama because my concern, to

616
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: be clear, was their mentality coming in here. They struggled

617
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: on the road even when they're fully dialed in. So

618
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: if they weren't fully dialed in, I thought run defense

619
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: was going to be victimized by the team that is

620
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: most susceptible or most likely to do it, and that

621
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: being Old Miss, they didn't really get shredded on the

622
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: ground nearly to the degree that Ole Miss has done

623
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: it to some other teams. And Ole Miss being zero

624
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: for three on fourth down was a huge contributor to

625
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Bama winning this thing. I keep in emphasizing the willingness

626
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: to fight from both teams, but especially Bama, because Bama

627
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: started the game knowing we're not going.

628
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: To any kind of championship game. But they fought.

629
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: That started off flat, but second half many they were

630
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: dealing haymakers, they were taking haymakers. There were a number

631
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: of games across the country like that yesterday. I keep

632
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: emphasizing the willingness to fight. This is not the best

633
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Bama team we've seen as of late. They fought yesterday.

634
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Nick Saban was so excited and jubilant on the sideline

635
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: because you can do all you can as a coach,

636
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: you really don't know what level of play you're going

637
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: to get from your guys until you see it.

638
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: And they fought man. Bryce Young's far less than one

639
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

640
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Jace McClellan played his tailoff byering Young friend of the program, had.

641
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Speaker 1: A really good day year Today. They just fought.

642
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: And the reason I keep emphasizing that is because it's

643
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: not a given. I don't know how much you've been

644
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: paying attention lately, but you look around the country, there

645
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: are some healthy players that aren't in football games.

646
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: You notice there's only two possible reasons there.

647
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: Either they're out because of discipline, or they're out because

648
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: they don't feel like playing. And I would suggest to

649
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: you that a lot more of the latter is happening.

650
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: It's not reported, it's not fun to talk about. Most

651
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: of the time, it's kept quiet.

652
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: But these dudes on Alabama's team, you.

653
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Would think have the most incentive to adopt that mentality.

654
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: And the reason Nick Saban is so excited to just

655
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: see guys fight is because it's not happening everywhere. There's

656
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: some guys quitting on their teams. That's what's happening around

657
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: college football. Some dudes are white flagging it early to

658
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: preserve themselves. However they see fit. It's their right to

659
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: probably enter the portal, or some guys do it because

660
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: of draft stock and whatnot. But it's nice, it's refreshing

661
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: to at least see guys still willing to go to

662
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: the map.

663
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Coaching changes are gonna come here. Okay.

664
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: I know Nick Saban's been publicly critical of himself and

665
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: not willing to be critical of his coordinators. That's because

666
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: they are going to be moved on from at least

667
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: one of them.

668
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I think both.

669
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: I am very very confident Bill O'Brien will not be

670
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: there next year, very confident. O'Brien's name is in a

671
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: number of these head coaching searches. By the way, Candidly,

672
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: as far as Old Miss goes, I didn't expect them

673
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: to be in this conversation. I mean, I will admit

674
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: freely I took the under at seven and a half

675
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: for them in the preseason when it comes to win total.

676
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: So they've already achieved as far as I'm concerned. And

677
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: so we don't do the apology thing very often here,

678
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, yes, and I add the cherry on

679
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: top when I pick them to lose every game. It's

680
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: become a tradition around here. I don't have anything against

681
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: Old Miss. I had a great time when I went

682
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: over there a few weeks ago. But I think that

683
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: it's something that needs to be acknowledged Man Kiffin.

684
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Even though they're a two loss team, now what.

685
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay, they're two lost team. So is Alabama for that matter. Oh,

686
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: missus been really good this year. And I'm telling you

687
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: there are a lot of folks behind the scenes and

688
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: coaching circles in the administrative world who were circling Old miss.

689
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason I took the under on them

690
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: is because I had enough coaches get in my ear

691
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: and tell me, with those assistants they lost and that

692
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: quarterback they lost, Kiffen will not be able to duplicate

693
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: what he did.

694
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Now. They may start.

695
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: Fast because they got Troy's, Central, Arkansas Georgia Tech like

696
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: they've got a soft open to their schedule, but they

697
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 2: will hit a brick wall eventually and there will be

698
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: no escaping the back half of that schedule. And instead

699
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: they beat Kentucky, and they beat Auburn, and they beat

700
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Texas A and M, and so they got two losses.

701
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: They've already hit their over. It doesn't matter if they

702
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: lose the other two. I know it is uneasy or

703
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: an uneasy feeling for an old miss fam when you

704
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: hear your head coach mentioned in rumors of other jobs.

705
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. There's nothing you can

706
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: do about it.

707
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: I thought you got guys presented as good a spectacle,

708
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: as good a home atmosphere yesterday in Oxford as I've

709
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: seen in a number of years, I mean places on fire.

710
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: Any recruits that were in town had to be impressed

711
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: with that. So I want you guys to ear muff

712
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: yourself for a second, because this is not pleasant taught

713
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: for you.

714
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Three two one, Okay, so.

715
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Absently, old miss fans in the room. Look, the fact

716
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: of the matter is Lane Kiffin is going to be

717
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: in the conversation for some of these jobs, the Auburn

718
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: job chief among them. Something happened after this game yesterday. Now,

719
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: in reality, it doesn't change him one iota as a

720
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: head coach. Lane Kiffin woke up yesterday the exact same

721
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: caliber of head coach as he went to.

722
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Sleep as last night.

723
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: But the more I've been around the hiring process, the

724
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: more I have realized some of the dumbest things in

725
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: the world, well not dumb, some of the most inconsequential

726
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: things in the world in the grand scheme of things,

727
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: actually carry weight in the hiring process. And so I'm

728
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: going to play some sound here from Lane Kiffin last night,

729
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: and I want you to juxtapost to what the perception

730
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: of lank Kiffen has been.

731
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: The perception has been always fun.

732
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: He's easy going, he's always good for a SoundBite, kind

733
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: of goofy at times, really active on Twitter.

734
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: And that's all well and good. We're in the entertainment industry.

735
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: But think about how many administrators out there, how many

736
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: ads out there, prefer a guy that has more an

737
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: edge to him, you know, prefers a guy that can

738
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: get a little salty in a postgame press conference. You

739
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: are who you are as a coach, but I'm telling

740
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: you this stuff matters. With that in mind, this is

741
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: lank kiffing after the game. He ja can still rush

742
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty five yards against one of

743
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: the better rush defenses in the country. I mean, just

744
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: kind of assessious what you saw through him just throughout

745
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: sixty minutes.

746
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, guys, you know this is let

747
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: me just explain it really well. I don't really give

748
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: a shit about how many yards we had, how close

749
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: the game was.

750
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: We didn't win the game.

751
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: And two years ago he walked off this field and

752
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: I said, we didn't come here to cover spreads or

753
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: did need to come here to play what at the

754
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: time was the number one team in the country.

755
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: Close.

756
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: So all these things about well you did this good

757
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: and in freshman running back Russian, it doesn't matter.

758
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: We didn't win the game.

759
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe some other places that's good, or

760
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: it's been here good in the past, it ain't good enough.

761
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: We came here to win, to beat Alabama.

762
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: We didn't do it.

763
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: So we're own one today.

764
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: Now.

765
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: You can believe me or not believe me. I don't

766
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: care because I know this is right. That stuff matters

767
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: to people who are actually going to be influential in

768
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: the hiring process at various places. I'm not speaking about

769
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: any one place individually. How it happens is like this

770
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: one influential person, here's that sound by it? They text

771
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: it in a group, text to five more of their

772
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: buddies who are also influential.

773
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: And they all have the latest iPhone because they're all.

774
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: Bajillionaires, and they don't really know x's and those Okay,

775
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: they probably played thirty five years ago and they ran

776
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: the beer in high school. They have no clue what

777
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: they're really talking about when they're watching today's game, so

778
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: absent being able to chalk talk their way through a

779
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: conversation with Lane Kiffin and an administrator. That stuff is

780
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: what they gravitate too. They text their ad they text

781
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: their chancellor, they text their present, they say, Hey, this

782
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: is what we need in our program.

783
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: What is it? It's a guy saying words in a microphone.

784
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

785
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff I'm telling you, whether you

786
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: believe it or not, that carries as much weight in

787
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: the hiring process as anything football relating. And it is

788
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: a running joke in coaching circles. Some of the best

789
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: stories you could ever get from head coaches or assistant coaches,

790
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: especially who will be honest with you, is what actually

791
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: got them hired.

792
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: These guys know it. They understand the game they're playing.

793
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: A lot of these.

794
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: Guys know They could walk in a room full of

795
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: people who are tasked with making a hire and they

796
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: could either explain their offense and explain their philosophy, or

797
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: they could give a few funny anecdotes and they could

798
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: drop a few four letter words because for some reason,

799
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: grown men start giggling amongst each other when they hear

800
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: another grown men cuss and lin Kiffin did it yesterday.

801
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: So he checked all the boxes. That gets people hired,

802
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: flat out, It gets people hired. So just keep that

803
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: in mind. That little edge link.

804
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: If Joe he's always had it, he just doesn't show

805
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: it publicly a lot.

806
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind. Let's move on here. We

807
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: got so many other games to talk about.

808
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: That's why I'm trying to talk a little more auctioneery

809
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: to night, little faster, because we've got I don't know

810
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: how many more games. Don't worry if I haven't gotten

811
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: to you yet, We're gonna get to you, especially especially

812
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: if you live in and around the neighborhood here. How

813
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: about this Colin, I don't know if you checked the

814
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: calendar yesterday. I know our friends in Lexington didn't. Van

815
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: Dey beat Kentucky twenty four to twenty one, and certainly

816
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: the doors were not favored. They were seventeen and a

817
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: half point dogs something like that. Kentucky, though, committed the

818
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: cardinal sin of not checking the calendar when they woke

819
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: up yesterday morning, because had Kentucky checked the calendar, they

820
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: would have seen that, no, it is not October, it

821
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: is Dovember, and November took a bite out of Mark

822
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Stoops and the catch yesterday twenty four to twenty one.

823
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: There's nothing flucish about it.

824
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 2: Vandy's been close now, Vandy's been playing much better ball.

825
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: They just haven't gotten wins to show for it. They

826
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: were eleven of seventeen on third down yesterday. They outgained

827
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: Kentucky by nearly one hundred and thirty yards, and they

828
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: just they beat him.

829
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to tell you. Will Levis

830
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: looked horrible.

831
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Vandy has a lot to do with that, and so

832
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: just steadily and steadily they put it, almost put up.

833
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Four hundred fifty total yards yesterday.

834
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: Vanderbilts out of the spotlight because of the nature of

835
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: the conference they play in.

836
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: They're playing much better ball.

837
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: They now surpassed Texas A and M A and M's

838
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: got the worst record in the SEC right now, not

839
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: Nashville's football team.

840
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: So I don't even know what the Titans did today.

841
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: Who cares.

842
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: Nashville still has Vandy hangover. They still got Door hangover.

843
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: It's not Titan member, it is Door member. And we've

844
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: already filed for the trademarks. So don't even bother Barton.

845
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Next up, North Carolina thirty six, Wake twenty four. You

846
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: want to talk about playing one possession games. I remember

847
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Auburn back in their Cam Newton twenty ten season. I

848
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: want to say they were seven and oh in one

849
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: possession games.

850
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: It was some absurd stat.

851
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: North Carolina is now six and oh this year in

852
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: one possession games.

853
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: They clinched an ACC title.

854
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: Appearance with this win yesterday, they had thirty first downs.

855
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: I just realized that when I looked at the screen.

856
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: Drake May big talking point right now. Why is Drake

857
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: May not mentioned in the Heisman conversation? More well, he

858
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: is in the rare occasion where I talk Heisman on

859
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: this show. He is, in fact, he may be at

860
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: the forefront for me. I'm going to give you a

861
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: hard truth in just a second though. But first off,

862
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: five hundred and nineteen total yards for Drake May. He

863
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: was responsible or has been this year for thirty eight touchdowns.

864
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: That's number two in FBS behind bo Nicks. So May

865
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: has five hundred nineteen total yards yesterday, just going off

866
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: thirty eight total touchdowns accounted.

867
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: For this year.

868
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: You want to know why he's not getting more Heisman love.

869
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: It's cause too many people who vote for the Heisman

870
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: aren't watching him play that's the dirty secret. They won't

871
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: admit it to you because they will say, oh, I've

872
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: seen Drake May play. And if you really got them

873
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: in a lie detector chair, you'd find out what they

874
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: mean by that is they've seen North Carolina highlights.

875
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: On Sports Center.

876
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: A large swath of Heisman voters have not watched the

877
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 2: North Carolina game this year.

878
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: I promise you they haven't.

879
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Number one, because they're at their own games every week usually.

880
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: And number two, and this is another hard truth. You

881
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: have to face a lot of folks who have Heisman.

882
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Votes don't love college football.

883
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Now as you collectively gasp, I'm gonna give you a

884
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: second to compose yourselves.

885
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: And I hate to peel back the curtain.

886
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: But no, friends, no one of the most prestigious awards

887
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: in sports. On award I have immense amounts of respect

888
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: for it. May be the voting process I don't respect

889
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: all that much.

890
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Is voted on by a lot of folks who really

891
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: could care less either way.

892
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: Don't care less actually either way about anything other than

893
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: the two or three marquee games on a Saturday. That's

894
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: your Heisman process. And if Drake May doesn't finish as

895
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: a finalist. Then that will be why they don't know

896
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: who he is. They know his name, they know that

897
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: who he plays for, and they see some highlights.

898
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: That's about it.

899
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: Georgia pasted Mississippi State forty five to nineteen. George's headed

900
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: to the SEC championship game. That is the fifth time

901
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: in the last six years it's been a full calendar

902
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: year since they allowed a touchdown in the first quarter.

903
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm told that's really good. Full disclosure, I did not

904
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: verify that stat that was delivered by one of you,

905
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: and so if we get sued, I don't know how

906
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: that would actually happen.

907
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: But if we get in trouble, I'm taking the credit.

908
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 2: I will not take the blame though, That'll be on you,

909
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: and I will direct the authorities to the proper Twitter DM.

910
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: They're just fine tuning right now. They're not gonna lose.

911
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: They're just fine tuning, and Kirby Smart's got another team

912
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: that's fully bought in, going to be favored to win.

913
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: I think any game that they play, this is not

914
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: a flawless team. It's not an invincible team. I think

915
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: it's the best team in the country right now. Like

916
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: I watch them offensively and I see Stetson Bennett still

917
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: making a few decisions per game that if he were

918
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: to face equal competition, may cost them.

919
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: But here's the good news.

920
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: They don't face equal competition and may very well not

921
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: until the playoff. So they will play LSU in the

922
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: SEC title game.

923
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: We know that.

924
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: Would you like to know what the point spread on

925
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: that will be, Well, I'm not going to tell you

926
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: what the spread would be. I'll tell you what we

927
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: would make it here at Peyton State Sports Book. I'll

928
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: give you a chance to guess Georgia neutral field, Georgia

929
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: versus LSU. Georgia by about seventeen is what you should

930
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: expect there. Now maybe dialed down to fifteen and they

931
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: let you choose between fourteen and seventeen. And that thing's

932
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: probably going to come to arrest closer to seven team,

933
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: And I know that seems like a big number. All

934
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: I would say to you is if you think it's

935
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: big that LSU, That's all I can tell you.

936
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Next up, Arizona and UCLA played a classic last night.

937
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: My goodness.

938
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: The final was Arizona, Yes, the Wildcats of jed Fish

939
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: thirty four, Ucla twenty eight, and they jumped out to

940
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: a fourteen oh lead did Arizona.

941
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: It was an excellent game. Here's what I enjoyed.

942
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I enjoyed forgetting what the standings are sometimes and just

943
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: watching a game for what it is, kind of compartmentalizing it.

944
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: And this was great if you could watch it like that,

945
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: if you didn't think, every two or three plays, boy,

946
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: UCLA's blowing it.

947
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Boy, what is this going to do to the Pac

948
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: twelve race? What is this going to do their playoff chances?

949
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: I know all that matters, and it certainly is part

950
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: of the backdrop of a game. Sometimes you don't get

951
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: to fully enjoy the game, like you don't get to

952
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: enjoy what Jaydon Delora did last night because you're too

953
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: busy thinking about what the other team's not doing well.

954
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: Ucla played a very good game last night. They didn't

955
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: do it enough to win because the other team did more.

956
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: That's the most fundamental way of describing a football game

957
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: I've ever encountered.

958
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: But that was reality.

959
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: Remember back in the summer, speaking of Dolora, we talked

960
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: about that kid when we were taking the over on

961
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: the win total for Arizona, and we talked about their

962
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: ability to pop not only that I should have clipped

963
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: this actually, Colin, cause I talked about how I thought

964
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: late in the year they made gel enough to pull upsets,

965
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: and they just did yesterday.

966
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we took them on Friday night lines.

967
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: I hope you guys tuned in. We took them, and

968
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: I didn't pick them out right. But nineteen and a half.

969
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Way too many points to begin given Arizona in this game,

970
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: and it's because they got a good quarterback out there.

971
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: He was twenty two to twenty eight, three hundred and

972
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: fifteen yards, two touchdowns, no picks.

973
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: They're four and six. Now Arizona has moved to four

974
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: and six. Over under was like two and a half.

975
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: I think, so good on Jed Fish.

976
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: UCLA plays USC this week and both of them are

977
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 2: still in it for the Pac twelve championship. That moves

978
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: UCLA to a two loss in conference. What do you

979
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: think to spread there is? It's in the Rose Bowl.

980
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: What do you think the spread there is? How about

981
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: USC minus three? We had arguments, had arguments last week

982
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: about who would be favored there. You go, USC favored

983
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: by about a field goal. One more game here that

984
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to touch on on the West coast. Just

985
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: PAC twelve came through yesterday. A phenomenal conference to watch

986
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: this year. I think it's the best overall the conference

987
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: has been in several years. Washington beat Oregon. I don't

988
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: cough mockingly. I cough because I had to clear my

989
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: throat Washington. They just outdueled Oregon. I mean, Oregon played

990
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: a wonderful game yesterday. They had thirty two first downs,

991
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: nearly six hundred yards total offense.

992
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: They ran it for three twelve six point one yards

993
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: per clip.

994
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: When we broke this game down the other day, I said,

995
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: I actually think Washington will cover, but I feel really

996
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: good about Oregon winning out right because I think they'll

997
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: play a more.

998
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: Low margin for aristyle of ball. But they will run, run, run, run,

999
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: and they absolutely did. Here's the problem.

1000
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: It came down to one play that Oregon needed and

1001
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: bo Nicks was out of the game, and they made

1002
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: a call. Dan Lanning made a call, and it was

1003
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: probably a little controversial. I know a lot of people

1004
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: are talking about it. They chose to be aggressive. They

1005
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: were in their own territory. It was fourth down. They

1006
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: had been ripping off chunk yardage on the ground, and

1007
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: the running back slips and falls and they turned the

1008
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: ball over. They give Washington the ball in a tie

1009
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: game in plus territory. In Washington kicks the field goal,

1010
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: they win the game. I have not listened to Landing's postgame.

1011
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: I doubt that he second guessed himself. I doubt that

1012
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: I understand the thinking on going for it. It's just

1013
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: that if you were watching the game. I was watching

1014
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: the game. I was already back in my hotel room

1015
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: down in New Orleans. I was watching and it was

1016
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: interesting because the broadcast picked up bow Knicks looking like

1017
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: he was ready to get back in the game, and

1018
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: they didn't put him in the game.

1019
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: And still went for it. And if you want to

1020
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: question something, that's probably what you would question.

1021
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: But it was just a good game, man like. They

1022
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: did everything they needed to do to win. Michael Penix

1023
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: just had the game of his life. You just saw

1024
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: one of those throws. I thought brock Hewart did a

1025
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: really good job on the broadcast of pointing out that

1026
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: safety didn't take a horrific angle on the ball.

1027
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: The ball was just.

1028
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: Delivered about seven hundred miles an hour, and the dude

1029
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: misread it.

1030
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: But he's sitting.

1031
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: There thinking as a college football player in a college

1032
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: football game. No one is going to throw a ball

1033
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: that's gonna beat me to that spot. Michael Penix, Did

1034
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean Pendix's go on fire last night? He answered,

1035
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: every time I thought they were gonna get run over

1036
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: in the second half. It was thirteen to ten at half,

1037
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: and it ends up being thirty seven to thirty four.

1038
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: So another classic there again. If you could just take

1039
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: those games in for what they were, it was a really,

1040
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: really entertaining day there on the West coast. They're watching

1041
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: us in Boiling Springs, South Carolina, Cleveland, Ohio, and Lloydminster.

1042
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Alb Canada. They're all tuned in. Colin. I'll tell you

1043
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: what I want to do.

1044
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead, because I think I don't even know

1045
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: where I put it, So let's go ahead and do

1046
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: every given Saturday. Then I'll get to the Clemson game.

1047
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: So this is me stalling, so Colin has time to

1048
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: pull the element up.

1049
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: We just came back from New Orleans this morning.

1050
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why I say we all the time,

1051
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: because I go to these solo it's we anyway, So.

1052
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: We went to New Orleans this weekend.

1053
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: I was down at two lane g five, Josh and

1054
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: saw Gus Malsan in Central Florida pull a game out

1055
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: and had a lot of fun down there. I hate

1056
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: that we weren't able to just do a week of

1057
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 2: shows down there. I would easily relocate to New Orleans.

1058
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: It's always a fun city to go to, but I'm

1059
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: only there for football anytime I go down there. So

1060
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm flying back this morning, and we're having a big

1061
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: internal debate. Where should we go this week? We've got

1062
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: Illinois at Michigan. That game's not quite as interesting as

1063
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: it had been. TCU at Baylor, even with the loss

1064
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: from Baylor, even with a big win from TCU, there's

1065
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: a field.

1066
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: Goal spread on that game. You got USC at UCLA.

1067
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: We just talked about that big showdown in Eugene again.

1068
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: Utah at Oregon, And why is that fifth game there?

1069
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: You asked, Well, Florida Rosedale is not only the best

1070
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: trophy in college football, it's the best trophy in sports.

1071
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: And I will mute any of you who argue.

1072
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: And so Iowa plays Minnesota this week, and so yes,

1073
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: it absolutely is in contention for the every given Saturday Tour.

1074
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I experienced yesterday.

1075
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: I flew down to New Orleans on Friday and it

1076
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: was seventy eight and sunny, and yesterday it was so

1077
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: gross that I don't even want to describe it to you.

1078
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: I want to see two things right now. I want

1079
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 2: to see high level football and I want to see

1080
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: seventy eight in sunny And there is only one place

1081
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: that's going to offer me that combination this weekend, and

1082
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: it is Pasadena, California. The every given Saturday Tour is

1083
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: headed back out to La Southern cal versus UCLA. Pack

1084
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: twelve Pate is back. Tell your friends, Tell your family.

1085
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: G five Josh has taken a rest this week. Pack

1086
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: twelve Pate is back. Shame on us again. We sec

1087
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: Homers daring to head out west. I have not been

1088
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: to the Rose Bowls since two thousand and nine, so

1089
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: we are going to change that and we're gonna see

1090
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: if Chip Kelly and the boys can get off the deck.

1091
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: That's going to be a really interesting game.

1092
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of thoughts out there about how they

1093
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: match up line of scrimmage with USC. Well, we will

1094
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: be there in person sideline to see that one, and

1095
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: then we'll just redd eye our way right back to

1096
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: Nashville and be back by seven am the next morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm told, all right now.

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00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: That we got that out of the way, I assume

1099
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: it's been tweeted out too. Let's dive right back in.

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Speaker 2: I still got more games to get to. I mean,

1101
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: we are not done yet. Thank you so much for

1102
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: being here. Please like and subscribe if you have not already.

1103
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: Clemson beat Louisville yesterday, thirty one to sixteen.

1104
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: I had no feel this was the game I had

1105
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: the least grip on of any game that was played

1106
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: on anyone's radar yesterday. The model ironically good for the

1107
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: model hot day yesterday, it said take Clemson. In fact,

1108
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: the model had Clemson at like a sixty three percent

1109
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: cover probability.

1110
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: And I did not hand it out. I did not

1111
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: bet it myself.

1112
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: I just didn't believe the model said Clemson, and I said, really, model,

1113
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: because we know what it's done with Texas lately. So

1114
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: the model dependable but not always to be trusted.

1115
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: It was dead on the money. Clemson won this thing.

1116
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: They covered.

1117
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: It's the fourteenth straight win they've had off a loss,

1118
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: and what they did was pretty simple. They did not

1119
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: allow Louisville's pass rush to take over. That could wreck

1120
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: a game. And they had two sacks did Louisville. But

1121
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: Clemson did not really allow him to take over. They

1122
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: had quick passes, they used DJ in the run game. Now, look,

1123
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: he had fifteen carries for thirty two total yards. That

1124
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: is not an impressive stat line at all, but if

1125
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: you think about what the alternative on those fifteen plays

1126
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: could have been. Instead you gain a couple of yards.

1127
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: It was impactful. If you watch the game, you know

1128
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: what I mean. It was impactful. It's not a huge

1129
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: stat line, but it was impactful. Cous MafA and Shipley

1130
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: both had about one hundred or so on the ground each.

1131
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: So Clemson did not allow to pass rush to in Gulfham.

1132
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: They ran the ball very well. That's all it took

1133
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: because Louisville was without Malie Cunningham second half of the game.

1134
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: He went down late in the second quarter and so

1135
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: that was it. The padlock stat, if you want one,

1136
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: Louisville forced three turnovers and got zero points off of them.

1137
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: I think Clemson forced two and got zero points. I'm

1138
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: not sure on that second one. I know in the

1139
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: first one, you forced three turnovers, you put no points

1140
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: on the board. You're asking for it because they are

1141
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: better than you athletically, so you're asking for it. Do

1142
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: you get the same vibe with Clemson that you do

1143
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: with Bama? Because both of them are perennial contenders and

1144
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: both of them are out of the playoff mix at

1145
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: least I think Clemson, I know Bama is.

1146
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I think Clemson is. It would take a lot for

1147
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: them to get back in. Do you get the same vibe?

1148
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: So I was having this little conversation earlier today with

1149
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine. He said, these are the same teams.

1150
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: I said, well, no, they may be in this roughly

1151
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: the same position, but I don't know that they're the

1152
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: same team. But then, I mean, I thought about it

1153
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more, and both coaches are being questioned

1154
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: for staffing decisions. Saban's being questioned for Bill O'Brien and

1155
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe Pete Golden. Maybe you know a lot of the

1156
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: assistants that nationally you wouldn't know the names of.

1157
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: Well, Dad was being questioned because of the same things.

1158
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: Now they're able to somewhat block out that noise, but

1159
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: come season's end, whichever bowl game they go to is.

1160
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: Whichever bowl game they go to. But I mean everyone's

1161
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: gonna be focused on what Jimbo does at A and M.

1162
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: I'll be focused just.

1163
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: As much on what Clemson does, if anything, what Bama does,

1164
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: if anything, because I mean, they're not going anywhere. It's

1165
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: not like all of a sudden they're gonna fall from

1166
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 2: the face of the earth.

1167
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: In terms of being a contender.

1168
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: They're still going to have a bullseye on their chest

1169
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: every year. It's just they might not be, you know,

1170
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: running off a string of dominant years like they have Voila.

1171
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: By the way, what do.

1172
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: You know something else changed about the sport without an

1173
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: expanded playoff. I'm mocking it only because I was told

1174
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: by expansionists I had to expand the playoff or else

1175
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: Clemson and Bama were never coming.

1176
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: Back to Earth.

1177
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they were. They always were cyclical. That's kind of

1178
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: how these things work. Next up, this one, I probably

1179
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: should have put earlier in the show, because this one

1180
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: got talked about a lot. LSU beat Arkansas yesterday. That's

1181
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: part of the news. The other part of the news

1182
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: is it was thirteen to ten. It was an ice

1183
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: rink in Reynolds Razorback Stadium up there, and Arkansas kind

1184
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: of sort of played with that kJ Jefferson, and they

1185
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: got me on that.

1186
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: I thought Jefferson was starting. They got me regression to

1187
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: the mean.

1188
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: Had a lot of you texting me and dming me

1189
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: that last night. I had forgotten I said it on

1190
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: the show last week, but I said it when you

1191
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: were so confused about the point spread being three, which

1192
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: moved to three and a half. That's when we bet

1193
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: Arkansas Friday night.

1194
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Again at late kick, Josh, if you were not catching

1195
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: Friday night lines, you are losing money.

1196
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: We are winning every week. For some reason, the Friday

1197
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: night lines are hitting even better than the regular lines.

1198
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: We handed out Arkansas plus three and a half. We

1199
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: waited all week for the line to move, and it did,

1200
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: and we bet it and we won.

1201
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: If you bet it earlier, you pushed.

1202
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: But anyway, when you were looking at the spread and

1203
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: it confused you because one of those teams had just

1204
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: beaten Bama and the other one had just lost to Liberty,

1205
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: it's progression and regression to the meat.

1206
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: That's all it is. This is how college football works.

1207
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: So a blind man.

1208
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: Who is well, how does a blind man observe you

1209
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: use your other senses? I guess so a blind man

1210
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: who has observed this sport for a long time could

1211
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: have seen this coming. I think the nubes out there

1212
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: were a little shocked by this. It's okay, and stop

1213
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: recalibrating your expectation of LSU. This is the same team

1214
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: that a lot of people predicted to go seven and five.

1215
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: Don't get mad at them because they're what's their record

1216
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: COLN eight or nine and two or something like that.

1217
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Don't get mad when they're eighth win of the season

1218
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: with three to go. Now, as it turns out, is

1219
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: only by three points.

1220
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That is recalibration of expectation. It's not fair.

1221
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: What's fair is to say it's a miracle that you

1222
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: clinched the SEC West yesterday. How about that.

1223
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not forget that or overlook that in the

1224
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: process of barely winning or winning an ugly game. Yeah,

1225
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: they kind of sort of punched their ticket to Atlanta,

1226
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: didn't they? And Brian Kelly's first year did'tee. More on

1227
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: that in a second. I'm gonna hit you with a

1228
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: stat that proves padlock stats are meaningless when it comes

1229
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: to LSU.

1230
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Right now, meaningless.

1231
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: LSU has had two games this year where they failed

1232
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: to pass for ninety yards two times in conference play,

1233
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: they have failed to top ninety yards passing, and they're

1234
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: two and zero in those games. They've lost two of them.

1235
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: Those aren't even the two games they failed to top

1236
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: ninety yards passing.

1237
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: If you want to explain to me how that's.

1238
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Possible, well it's called at Auburn and at Arkansas with

1239
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback.

1240
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it turned out to be possible.

1241
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Though. Harold Perkins changed this game. He changed

1242
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: the Bama game. Stars matter. Don't let anyone tell you

1243
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: they don't. Dad is an alien.

1244
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: Number forty is an alien who just happens to be

1245
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: eligible to play college football.

1246
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: We followed his recruitment. You remember it, You remember it

1247
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: well if you watch this program. I kept emphasizing forty. There.

1248
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: It was LSU and then A and M.

1249
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: And when Brian Kelly got on the job, he talked

1250
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: to a certain assistant down there and said, please please

1251
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: do whatever it takes, get forty.

1252
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: Get Harold Perkins. And he got him.

1253
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: And they've probably won a minimum of two games, maybe

1254
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: three because of him.

1255
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: So don't worry. He's only here two more years minimum.

1256
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: That's just true. Freshman he was in high school.

1257
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Last year they got me man Arkansas got me with

1258
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson. I thought he was going to start now

1259
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: he didn't, and they still ended up covering. I thought

1260
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: he was gonna start, though, and he didn't. So Malik

1261
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: Hornsby started, I'm with Trey Biddy over at Hogsports.

1262
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: He was doing his walking talk yesterday.

1263
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Looked like he was in Juno, Alaska, by the way,

1264
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: So hats off or Toboggan's off to Biddy and he

1265
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: said what I think a lot of people want to

1266
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: say about Hornsby, like, Malik Hornsby's all in program guy.

1267
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: Malik Hornsby can run like a spooped deer, and thus

1268
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: far he has insisted on playing quarterback. And some guys

1269
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: do that and you say, oh, why don't they move

1270
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: the receiver, and it's just they would be an average receiver.

1271
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: Malik Hornsby could make millions of dollars changing positions because

1272
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: of his unique skill set.

1273
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Now it's his decision.

1274
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: Ultimately, but man, if I'm not having a hard conversation

1275
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: with him after this year and saying, look here, it's

1276
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: what NFL types say here's what scouts say, Here's what

1277
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: our coaching staff says.

1278
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Here's what you could be. Here are examples in the

1279
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: pro level of what you could be.

1280
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Because he's not a quarterback anywhere past this level. And

1281
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: he got benched yesterday, so I don't know. But anyway,

1282
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: that's for another show.

1283
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: They sacked Jayden Daniels seven times. Arkansas sacked him seven times.

1284
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 2: And this is what really is a gut punch for them.

1285
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: They played the game of the year defensively. I mean,

1286
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: Barry owed him and his defense have been under fire

1287
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: all year. They lost some guys early in the season,

1288
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: so they've been playing with one hand behind their back.

1289
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: They played the game of their year yesterday. You're holding

1290
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: LSU to thirteen.

1291
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: You think that's good enough ten times out of ten,

1292
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, it wasn't because of the

1293
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: hand or the hand that fate dealt you at your

1294
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: own quarterback position, but ten, oh man, there's so many

1295
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: numbers in front of me.

1296
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I just I know it's a gut punch.

1297
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 2: I know that I don't think any less of them

1298
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: as a program now than I did last year. I

1299
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: know people are waffling on them, but this is not

1300
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 2: about Arkansas right now. It's about LSU Brian Kelly's first year.

1301
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: They are going to Atlanta. I think it's worth just

1302
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: repeating that a few times. I don't have time to

1303
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: do it, but I encourage you to do it. You're

1304
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: gonna play for the SEC championship at worst. If Georgia

1305
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: beats you by one hundred, you went to Atlanta.

1306
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: Alabama didton because you beat them in your own building

1307
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: in year one. Saban had what a sixteen year, fifteen

1308
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: year head start on a year one. Congratulations, we move

1309
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: on some more games here to talk about.

1310
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: I've also got an early best bet for you, so

1311
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: let's finish strong here. The most disappointing result of yesterday

1312
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: to me was Baylor just getting run out of their

1313
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: own building by Kansas State thirty one to three. I mean,

1314
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: there was a lot on the line here. They're playing

1315
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: for the right to go oh to the conference championship game,

1316
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: and Kansas State just handled them. They were eight of

1317
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: thirteen on third down and with Will Howard again, you

1318
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: had Adrian Martinez out again, as it turns out, and

1319
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: then Will Howard comes in just doing plenty enough to

1320
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: win Duce Vaughan doing plenty enough to win.

1321
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: They control the game.

1322
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: Obviously, when you give up a grand total of three,

1323
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: you control the game. Baylor being O of three on

1324
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: fourth down did not help any I. I think a

1325
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna be confused. I've already said

1326
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: it a few times. I think a lot of people

1327
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: are gonna be confused when they look at the week

1328
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: to week.

1329
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: In this conference. Right now of points spreads.

1330
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: TCU is minus three at Baylor. Baylor just got splattered yesterday.

1331
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: TCU is on fire, hottest team in the country. They're

1332
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: favored by three three at McLean Stadium this Saturday.

1333
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: Is it a sucker line? Or is it easy money?

1334
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Is it free money?

1335
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: I had a couple of you already suggest to me

1336
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: free money, man, How does TCU not win by double digits?

1337
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh? I don't know. Go for it, though, go for it, you, seef.

1338
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: I was at this game. You see f thirty eight

1339
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: two lane thirty one. Gus Malson is living right. He's

1340
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: been living right ever since twenty seventeen. Really, and you

1341
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: may say, jest, how could he be living right? He's

1342
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: been fired between the twenty seventeen and now. Uh huh, yeah,

1343
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: and he could own his own island because of what

1344
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: happened in twenty seventeen when they restructured his deal before

1345
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game and he got that massive buyout.

1346
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: Because at that point, when you get to that level

1347
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: of coaching and you have some success and you get

1348
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: to a new contract, it doesn't matter what happens from

1349
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: here on out unless you have a Hugh Freeze related

1350
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: off field scandal.

1351
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: If you get terminated for ethical reasons, it's anyone's ball game.

1352
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: But if you get terminate from there on out once

1353
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: you sign that deal, if you get terminated for football

1354
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: related reasons, it doesn't matter. If your editors around, doesn't matter.

1355
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: If you're Mauson, you are going to be financially.

1356
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Set for lifetimes.

1357
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: Plural now was on set, but it just so happened

1358
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: a really really perfect position opened up for him at

1359
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: Central Florida and oh, there he is leading.

1360
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: The way in the AAC.

1361
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean they I know this looks like a one

1362
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: possession game at the end, because it was. But UCF

1363
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: kind of controlled this game yesterday for most of the way.

1364
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: Padlocks that oh, I think three hundred and thirty six

1365
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: yards on the ground pretty much padlocks that John Rice

1366
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: Plumbley was questionable during the week, and he was a

1367
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: warrior yesterday. I mean I watched him get smoked a

1368
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: few times. He was far less than one hundred percent.

1369
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm down their tunnel after the game. I'm outside the

1370
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: locker room after the game. He is walking around very gingerly.

1371
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: He didn't play that way. This is Tulane Stadium here,

1372
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeolman Stadium. As a matter of fact, that's eye Josh

1373
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 2: footage coming off the field. John Rice Plumby one hundred

1374
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: and thirty two passing, one hundred and seventy six rushing.

1375
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, I appreciate Tulane. They took

1376
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: care of us. It was a great time down there.

1377
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: But I got to credit the road folks central Florida.

1378
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: They carry themselves like program that's headed to the Big twelve.

1379
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: And the fan base understands it too. They traveled deep

1380
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: to that game yesterday. A lot of them made the trip.

1381
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't just think it was a big alumni chapter

1382
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: in New Orleans either. I think a lot of folks

1383
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: just flat out made the trip from Orlando. It's an

1384
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: easy little Southwest flight right there across the Gulf.

1385
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: They were loud.

1386
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: Crowd noise was an issue for Tulane candidly in some

1387
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: portions of the second half of that game. So hats

1388
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: off to every part of the administration there. They are

1389
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: the favorite now to win the AAC, thus the favorite

1390
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: to lock up the G five's New Year six Bowl bid.

1391
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: So they're rolling right now.

1392
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of rolling, is there a hotter team in America

1393
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: than Florida State the last month? Like we're talking TCU, LSU,

1394
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: Florida State, and that third component there absolutely fits in

1395
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: this conversation.

1396
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: They lost games earlier in the year.

1397
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: A lot of you may not be paying attention to

1398
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: him now because of that, you ought to be.

1399
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: They smoked Georgia Tech, they smoked Miami.

1400
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 2: They went into Syracuse yesterday and this was not even

1401
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: a game, yet another contribution to the rama noudle express

1402
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: yesterday Florida.

1403
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: State could win nine games. Do you realize that they're

1404
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: seven and three right now? Seven and three.

1405
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: They have got Louisiana coming up this week, then they've

1406
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: got Florida. They don't leave Doak again. They've got both

1407
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: of them at home. Are gonna be favored. I think

1408
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: in both of those games.

1409
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: I think let me run the numbers on the Florida game.

1410
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: Anyway, this was and well obviously a complete mismatch, but

1411
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: they held Syracuse to under one hundred yards passing under

1412
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: one hundred yards rushing. Twenty five to nine was the

1413
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: first down discrepancy in favor OFFSU.

1414
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: Four twenty to one.

1415
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: Sixty was the yardage discrepancy in favor of FSU. There

1416
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: was a little scene last week or the week before

1417
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: Mike norvel got into one of his player's grills and

1418
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: the player wouldn't make eye contact with him and started

1419
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: to walk off. Think Chris Hudson at Oregon with Mario

1420
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: Christbaull last year. The difference was Hudson just looked Cristball

1421
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: in the eye and took his chewing and he's still

1422
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: in that program as a result. Well, one of FSU's

1423
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: kids walked away. Norvell went and caught him, got in

1424
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: his face again, kid walked away again. Anyway, there eventually

1425
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: came a moment about the third times of the Charm

1426
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 2: where Norvelle gets his attention and says, there and choose

1427
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: him out, And you don't know what he's saying. You

1428
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: don't need to know what he's saying, you watched a

1429
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: kid take coaching. It's not often the cameras captured that,

1430
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: and you could take that and if you just you

1431
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: just multiply it infinity amounts of times and you think

1432
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: about what that does in a locker room.

1433
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: It shows you, first off, the coach has the team.

1434
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: Obviously he has the team. But secondly, it shows you

1435
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: growth is happening. It shows you that FSU's locker room

1436
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: didn't too out after they lost a few games. And again,

1437
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate, if you're a little more old school,

1438
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: if you're sixty years old watching the show, you're thinking

1439
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: to yourself, why does he keep crediting kids just for

1440
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: not quitting, Because a lot of kids are quitting. There

1441
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: are kids in the Atlantic Coast Conference who are healthy

1442
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: and not playing football right now for their teams because

1443
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: they've quit on their teams.

1444
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: Florida State not dealing with that. They're dealing with the opposite.

1445
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: They're dealing with guys that are playing their best.

1446
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: Football right now. It's the hallmark of a good staff,

1447
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: it's the hallmark of a head coach.

1448
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: This got his team, so you can still doubt that

1449
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: they're ever going to be a contender for the conference title.

1450
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: I would suggest to you if that team could start

1451
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: the season right now, they would be a contender for

1452
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: the conference title. That's not the way it works, though,

1453
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: So we could talk like that come next year because

1454
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: of what we're seeing right now. But Mike Norvel's I

1455
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: would argue pretty quietly and off the radar nationally, doing

1456
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: some good things down there, and if they can finish

1457
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: strong here and they win nine games, there'll be on

1458
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: a lot of preview magazines come summer next year. The

1459
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: other game I wanted to talk about was Florida South Carolina.

1460
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: This was ugly.

1461
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: This is a total, incomplete mismatch. I don't know what

1462
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: day of the week South Carolina thought this game happened on,

1463
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: But they seem like someone you ever seen that prison video,

1464
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: the little juvie kid that's asleep with his teddy Bear

1465
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: and the prison guard comes in and scares him awake,

1466
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: and the kids startled. He doesn't even know what to

1467
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: do and he just runs nervously crying out of the South.

1468
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: That was South Carolina taking the field. They were the

1469
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: scared kid in Juvie with the teddy bear taking the field.

1470
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: They had no chance, absolutely no shot. Florida had two

1471
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty on the ground before halftime, just got

1472
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: put on skates at the line of scrimmage. Florida is

1473
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: now I think two and o Colin, Are they two

1474
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: or three to oh since the Georgia game? Haven't lost again?

1475
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: They beat A and M. They beat South Carolina? There

1476
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: it is, yes, so they're two and oh since the

1477
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: Georgia game. So good for them because they also did

1478
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: not quit and they've had some kids kicked off the

1479
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: team since then, Brenton Cox namely, and they still have

1480
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: not mailed it in. In fact, defensively, they dominated yesterday. Winter

1481
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: is coming for South Carolina. That's the best news I

1482
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: can give you. Now, Well that's news. It's not good

1483
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: news unless changes are made. I think we all watched

1484
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: that team. Offensively, they are what they are pretty imperative

1485
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: that they're not that next year. So it's really quite frankly,

1486
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: it's a miracle they won as many games as they

1487
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,480
Speaker 2: have and whatever circumstances led to that is, whatever circumstances

1488
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: led to that, Yeah, got to be some changes made there,

1489
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: all right, Romain Noddle, Express time, where are we going?

1490
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: We've got a dependable team out there right now that

1491
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: we are riding, and we will continue to ride until

1492
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: the wheels come off. Penn State, I know I didn't

1493
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 2: talk about them. It's because they blanked another team yesterday.

1494
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: Penn State is playing Rutgers this week. They're laying nineteen

1495
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: and a half. I think this is going to twenty

1496
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: one by kickoff. So we're getting on Penn State minus

1497
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: nineteen and a half right now. They are playing some

1498
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: really good football. I mean, they lost to Ohio State

1499
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: and Michigan. Those are the teams they lost to and

1500
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: hadn't lost anyone else, and they they kind of got

1501
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: their own little Florida State thing going right now. James

1502
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 2: Franklin doing push ups on the sideline. I'm all for

1503
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: chess development. If you do it during a game, you

1504
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: do it during a game, that's fine with me. So hey,

1505
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 2: hats off to them too. I think that that's it.

1506
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: Colin.

1507
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: I got a blank piece of paper here, which means

1508
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: you will leave it to the imagination.

1509
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Here's the deal.

1510
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's be real with each other for a second.

1511
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: We're going to Los Angeles Saturday. I'll probably be out

1512
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: there Friday because I want to spend as much. I

1513
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: look for any excuse to go to southern California as

1514
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: I can. And so by the time we get back

1515
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: from LA this time next week, we have to be

1516
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty k. I think we will be.

1517
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 2: But we have to take this personal as a people.

1518
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: We have to take this personally. And so you don't

1519
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: need to grab your shield, you don't need to grab

1520
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: your sword. You need to do is grab your phone,

1521
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: hit subscribe and he grab your mom's and dad and

1522
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: Nanty and Oukles do the same thing and we will

1523
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,959
Speaker 2: have a happy Thanksgiving.

1524
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: You and I am together untill them for director Colin,

1525
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: for producer Jesse and producer Belchie.

1526
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, threesome in the house tonight. I'm Josh babe. Thanks

1527
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: so much, take care of having a great start to

1528
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: your week, and God bless