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Speaker 1: is one of the most innovative, most prolific. Most You
Speaker 1: think about Queen's Bridge, and you think about the athletic
Speaker 1: side of Queen's Bridge, which a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: understand and I don't know from the left fract, so
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit uh favoritism because that's
Speaker 1: like our cousin project. But these guys, they really compete
Speaker 1: every day with each other. And this is one of
Speaker 1: the brothers that I've seen I see. I saw his
Speaker 1: father actually train them like I've really I've witnessed that.
Speaker 1: I witnessed him witnessing play against Kobe Bryant and then
Speaker 1: they asked him and they said, yo, it's Kobe Brian
Speaker 1: the best person you ever played against. And he said, no, Chatfield,
Speaker 1: I was in jail with Mike Chatfield at the time.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. But if you don't understand who I'm talking
Speaker 1: about right now, we're talking about Ron Ron Ron artests
Speaker 1: Metal World Peace, my brother from another mother, And let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for now. Let me start off with that,
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I still call you wrong if
Speaker 1: I don't mean no despect, all respect, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm gonna start the interview with this. I
Speaker 1: thought I wasn't, but I'm gonna start the interview with it.
Speaker 1: Your father was probably the strongest person I've ever saw,
Speaker 1: no real talk. What I mean by that is I
Speaker 1: used to go lets to sell drugs in Queensbridge, right
Speaker 1: and and and at one point I've seen your father
Speaker 1: every day. He was outside with you at the ball
Speaker 1: court am I lying now, You're not lying? Every day?
Speaker 1: Every every day was child abuse because it was really
Speaker 1: raining and He'll he'll be talking talk, and I'll just
Speaker 1: be sitting there like wow. That was one of that
Speaker 1: made me want to be like a better fault. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest with you. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever looked at it like that. I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I always want to be like my pops. It's just
Speaker 1: hard to do it. It's hard to do. That's a man.
Speaker 1: He's a man's man. I'm not he would have me
Speaker 1: like my mom and my pops divorced that thirteen and
Speaker 1: they separated. It was too much for the divorce dollars
Speaker 1: that expensive expensive. I I ain't even dating no more.
Speaker 1: But but I told my dad when that happened. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what is my dad gonna do? You know? You come
Speaker 1: come around? What what happens? Now? Every day? Every night
Speaker 1: you were living with your mom's at that at that point,
Speaker 1: and when they separate, that was with my mom my
Speaker 1: dad every night, and he would get off work and
Speaker 1: he would come. We only had a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: so he would keep me out to two am and
Speaker 1: we just bawling. I see him. Listen to me. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: cause you listen. I'm from that Frac city, right, but
Speaker 1: my Queen's Bridge side there's six blocks of Queen's Bridge,
Speaker 1: ninety six buildings. But I'm street if I'm a Queen guy,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna come, and I grew up on ten Street,
Speaker 1: but I'm basically you have it capone tonity. You know
Speaker 1: that's so. I used to see your pops just training you.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest with you. The first time
Speaker 1: I seen him train him, I said, this guy's going
Speaker 1: to the NBA for Shan. Look, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: And it was normal to It was normal to Keywan,
Speaker 1: it was normal to these things. But I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: as a left right guy, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: all we have is Vincent Smith, Vincent Smith. But y'all
Speaker 1: had some talent. Dion Darrell, we had that, but it
Speaker 1: was not not gonna lie. Your father was so determined.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just like, you know, Dion Darrell was nice.
Speaker 1: Definitely should have been in the league. They have, they
Speaker 1: have some these saluted your projects every single time. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have to beat you. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have to beat you. I don't know, but okay, now,
Speaker 1: uh because out of Queen's Bridge, who was the first,
Speaker 1: who was the first, uh um person to make it
Speaker 1: as a ballplayer from Queen's Bridge, But we had um
Speaker 1: The first person we had was um Burn Fleman, that's
Speaker 1: correct from my blog. Niece had a baby with Eron
Speaker 1: Adam and then um Sean Green from Naas Block and
Speaker 1: we had Red Bruin. You have Sean Green from Vernon
Speaker 1: and nas Block, we had Red Bruin. We had it
Speaker 1: was it was I can't em everybody and it was
Speaker 1: so much talent. Ronnie Williams to the Celtics and it
Speaker 1: was crazy because Me, Sewan Green and vern Fluming all
Speaker 1: played for the Paces, all three of us time. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that fast we bring it up the Paces. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's listen to my nigga. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I was at in life or
Speaker 1: what was happening in the world, but I watched the
Speaker 1: news clip and I seen a coup on that and
Speaker 1: everything in Ma Boom said, I can't let that go out. YEA,
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you. I'm glad somebody's with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I seen the cup, I've seen the
Speaker 1: cousin nah slide, I gotta go. You gotta show he
Speaker 1: gotta show. You gotta show him that we were playing
Speaker 1: on the hill. Yeah yeah, and what was it? What's
Speaker 1: the guy named Jermaine? I just read that, y'all just spoke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that true man. Yeah, because you know, I was anti
Speaker 1: social man. I was like, I was always in survival mode,
Speaker 1: so I never really wanted to be around people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it wasn't I didn't like nobody. No,
Speaker 1: it was just that he did jump in the fight
Speaker 1: with you. And it's amazing that he did, because like
Speaker 1: they would go out for lunch. We get into the
Speaker 1: city and I don't go to lunch. They go off
Speaker 1: for dinner. I don't go to dinner. I've never been
Speaker 1: to a lunch with Jamaine on nil just us to
Speaker 1: until like two weeks ago, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was just because like I wasn't after that
Speaker 1: you told me when he wanted to stands with you.
Speaker 1: But it was it was Steven Jackson that jumped in
Speaker 1: with you know, Steven came to the stands and jamas
Speaker 1: handled things on the floor after you got pulled out.
Speaker 1: It sounds like forget Yeah, and you know, because like
Speaker 1: I was just so competitive and I was always just
Speaker 1: survival most so even practice, like they'll tell you I'm
Speaker 1: going hard Like if you if you like the fifth
Speaker 1: teen player, he's supposed to go to the hardest, I'm
Speaker 1: going harder than you, you know. And and then like
Speaker 1: after practice, you know, sometimes it'll be some controversy, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I always held one. I always held grudges.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't let it go. So the next day
Speaker 1: I come in to practice, I'm not talking to nobody,
Speaker 1: you know, and then hold I hold it for two weeks.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't let go stuff. It took me a
Speaker 1: while evolve, and I didn't make a lot of friends,
Speaker 1: and I don't I didn't make a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: And then when we're on the court, if you you
Speaker 1: know you're playing against me, he definitely not gonna be
Speaker 1: my friends because we don't. Let's describe what happened at
Speaker 1: night though, Yeah, that night, Um, your plan is this
Speaker 1: Detroit is in Detroit. In Detroit, You're in Detroit, which
Speaker 1: is a very rough place. Yeah, Tequilla, come on, come on, man,
Speaker 1: please please, we got come on. Holp them out, give
Speaker 1: them shot at you know what I mean. I need
Speaker 1: to understand what's happening. Right, so you're out there. Did
Speaker 1: you have me for Detroit? As an Indiana hated Detroit? Oh,
Speaker 1: I hated everybody like anybody. I love that because a
Speaker 1: box to tell me that too, box to say I
Speaker 1: hate every other box you can relay it. Yes, you
Speaker 1: got Mike chap Hill, Johnson, Wow, and they all in
Speaker 1: front in front of me, right and a couple of
Speaker 1: us make it. But so in order to play against hate,
Speaker 1: Johnson you got. I didn't realize that come with something
Speaker 1: and the competitive nature. It came from that. And I'm
Speaker 1: that's the only way I can make it. I can,
Speaker 1: I can. I can never let it go, you know.
Speaker 1: And but that not in Detroit was crazy. The dude,
Speaker 1: I ran in the right direction, by the way. You
Speaker 1: got to be pretty one point to see somebody hit
Speaker 1: you with the time and run. Was it a cup?
Speaker 1: It was a cup? And I spotted him right away
Speaker 1: because I felt like it was like what it wasn't
Speaker 1: the racial ship, it was this is what happened man.
Speaker 1: Definitely not racist. Man, dude, the dude bet when you
Speaker 1: do raise his hand. That's why that's why I attacked
Speaker 1: that dude. I'm like, there's no reason for anybody to
Speaker 1: be charing looking at me. So I'm like, you definitely
Speaker 1: hit me, So he better the guy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? He definitely hit me, and he better to
Speaker 1: do fifty dollars that he could hit me that he
Speaker 1: couldn't hit me with a cup. So when I rang up,
Speaker 1: you see the other dude, John Green just skin me
Speaker 1: up like, oh he was the one who hit me.
Speaker 1: It was at bet you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: nobody really knowing that. But they don't talk about that
Speaker 1: a lot because then you know, I lost, I lost
Speaker 1: some bread. Get out of here. I would have never
Speaker 1: actually asked you that he wrote it up. But so
Speaker 1: how does that happen? Your your NBA player? You let
Speaker 1: your doing what I had to do a fair that
Speaker 1: actually pursues you. You pursue that and then they penalize you.
Speaker 1: You know I didn't. People thought I was crazy when
Speaker 1: I said, are we gonna get in trouble? Because I
Speaker 1: went the lock of room, like you think we're gonna
Speaker 1: get in trouble. But you know what I mean, Queen
Speaker 1: brig ship and I loved it. I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: was like that because you know why. I'm sorry, Bron,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the interview, but you know why, because I'm
Speaker 1: looking I'm like a lot of the times they think
Speaker 1: that the NBA players are supposed to change because they
Speaker 1: got money. But if I'm a real dude and I'm
Speaker 1: in a real setting, don't try to put me in
Speaker 1: some fake ship. And that's real ship, that's real ship.
Speaker 1: And they try to put you in some fake ship
Speaker 1: and sat back and out and looked at us. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to react to that ship. Like they
Speaker 1: didn't change regulations. I think what happened was it's never
Speaker 1: been done before. Everybody was shocked. You know, they had
Speaker 1: something and I took Did they change anything after that though?
Speaker 1: Like they did? Like so it was like that right
Speaker 1: in a sense, like someone's attacking you to in a degree,
Speaker 1: you know what, absolutely, if you had an office, if
Speaker 1: you had a show in ninety one, yeah, and somebody
Speaker 1: to a drink on a problem. But but but no
Speaker 1: one never seen the NBA player do that. That was
Speaker 1: that was the crazy thing. And again to me, it
Speaker 1: was just a fight. Honestly, to me, it was like
Speaker 1: it was a fight. It was a problem. I had
Speaker 1: a problem. One guy had nothing to do in the media,
Speaker 1: but nobody else. One guy hit me with a couple
Speaker 1: of but a cup of bear. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you pretty mad? Was he was? He saying something prior
Speaker 1: to the game, like he just his season tickets up here? Okay,
Speaker 1: his name is John Green. That's not be cool now
Speaker 1: and everything? Are you cool? Yeah? We were on your show.
Speaker 1: He's kid, I'm bringing on the show. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: this describing you know, it's awesome by the way, man,
Speaker 1: I was trying to evolve. Man, I don't want know.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like not hold grudges. You know, my
Speaker 1: whole brand has been crazy, Like at the point I was,
Speaker 1: I got Defensive Player of the Year before that, and
Speaker 1: I was at eighteen. All small forwards average six points.
Speaker 1: So no, you know, on average, you wasn't getting over
Speaker 1: six points and it was cold. You might have twenty,
Speaker 1: but a scrub don'tnut right. So next year I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna be honest. Makes some noise the
Speaker 1: basketball looking when he just said that, I got chills
Speaker 1: to my body. I was like, he's I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's how when I was going into the game,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying. I don't want the motherucking score,
Speaker 1: you know. And um So the next year, right before
Speaker 1: I got to spending, I was trying to get m
Speaker 1: v P and like, you know, something I always wanted
Speaker 1: and I had the chance to get it, I probably
Speaker 1: was gonna get I finished six and MVP. Yeah before that,
Speaker 1: you know, and I got said I would have had
Speaker 1: another defensive player the Atrophy, another Alstar game, probably would
Speaker 1: have got the P, might have won the chip, Like
Speaker 1: now your whole legacy is like different partners by that,
Speaker 1: and I still might get in because I was still
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players that played the win.
Speaker 1: So I still don't say one of you all one
Speaker 1: of them. You know, it's crazy. I gotta always promote myself. Yeah, nobody,
Speaker 1: Nobody was promoting me like NBA people like yo, I
Speaker 1: was I used to go in. I want to get
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Gonna be honest. You was
Speaker 1: the only guy to stop Kobe, and then Kobe funk
Speaker 1: with you, Like if you stopped Kobe Kobe, don't funk
Speaker 1: with you after that. Kobe, you don't even want your
Speaker 1: phone number, you don't want to know your children's birthday.
Speaker 1: But you stopped Kobe. And Kobe said, man, I need that,
Speaker 1: needs to stop somebody else, and he wrunged you that.
Speaker 1: That to me, that was the one of the most
Speaker 1: honorable thing in basketball because because because a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Kobe right now and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to Bike chat Field because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know what you said when you
Speaker 1: meant that, but let's stick with Kope. So when he
Speaker 1: did that, that was the most honorable thing in the
Speaker 1: world to me because he's like, Yo, this is the
Speaker 1: only guy who stopped me. So if he can stop me,
Speaker 1: let me bring him on my team. Did you feel
Speaker 1: like that or not? I did? Man, I was when
Speaker 1: I was this was happening, I was going through a
Speaker 1: lot of that time, twenty years old. I was going
Speaker 1: through a lot. I called my agent and I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to a couple of teams. I
Speaker 1: want to do what I want to do, So I
Speaker 1: want to go to either Grease to play ball. So
Speaker 1: I was tweet I and my prom trying to head out.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Greece. I have three teams
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to, and you was on what
Speaker 1: team is on? I was on Houston Rockets at the time.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Greece. Actually, if the Rocket
Speaker 1: for a sign you I would I would have went back,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to try. You know, I don't want back.
Speaker 1: That was the only team I don't went back to
Speaker 1: because I was there. But yeah, I said that don't happen.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Greece as the chill making
Speaker 1: those a little for a couple of years, right, and
Speaker 1: then um, Detroit or Indiana. So those are the three
Speaker 1: teams I was trying to go to. So when I called,
Speaker 1: when we spoke to Detroit, Joe Dumas was the general
Speaker 1: marriager and then they was like, nah, we we don't
Speaker 1: think we want. You know, Ronald test hit because things
Speaker 1: that happened after I thought it had been dope. I
Speaker 1: thought it had been hard because is knowing for that
Speaker 1: bad boy and Detroit foks with me hard. They people
Speaker 1: are saying what they want to go in Detroit. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm home, you know, what I'm saying, the hood,
Speaker 1: the whole Detroit is the hood. It's definitely the hood,
Speaker 1: A lot of everything. So and so I get a
Speaker 1: call op, I'm at the s LS l A, you
Speaker 1: know SLS. So I'm at the SLS. I'm with my boys, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And I'm getting twisted. And I get a call from
Speaker 1: and I get a call from my agent agent say, yo,
Speaker 1: the lake is one you And I'm like what you said?
Speaker 1: They want to sign. I'm like, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: But you were coverd just have bet you just happy,
Speaker 1: just had beef. Because I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let me subscribe. At one point, when you found Kobe,
Speaker 1: I seen him look at you. I don't know he
Speaker 1: looked at you. I don't know what he said, but
Speaker 1: he was mad. Ob it's from Philly man. I'll tell
Speaker 1: people he might be Kobe Bryant, but he from Philly Man.
Speaker 1: But at that time, how how did y'all go from
Speaker 1: you know, because you you gave him hell? Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta pick you up because I know you humble,
Speaker 1: but you gave him hell? And then so how would
Speaker 1: you go from giving him hell to him actually been
Speaker 1: like fucking I want that guy my team. You know what.
Speaker 1: We respect each other man because in practices was crazy
Speaker 1: then Kobe, we're gonna add it. But we had to
Speaker 1: play on the same team a lot because we had
Speaker 1: to keep the our We had the same cohesion, you know,
Speaker 1: so we always played the same team. But when we
Speaker 1: played against each other, it was just like the game.
Speaker 1: It was practice, probably better than the games, you know.
Speaker 1: And Kobe's here in the gym at five thirty a
Speaker 1: and working on that jab step, just relentless, you know,
Speaker 1: and he opened a bottle of beasts, you know. And
Speaker 1: but he We respect each other, you know. I was
Speaker 1: one of the best defenders that he had a lot
Speaker 1: of good games against me. I had some good games
Speaker 1: against him, but he had more good games against me.
Speaker 1: You know. Um, I think I was one of the
Speaker 1: toughest people that he had to, you know, go up against.
Speaker 1: And that right there, it's like my trophy, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot. I don't have I should
Speaker 1: have had maybe three or four more All Stars. Should
Speaker 1: had maybe two more Defensive Player of the Years and
Speaker 1: maybe two All NBA two more. I had one All
Speaker 1: NBA team. But I got those type that type of
Speaker 1: thing from Kobe's Like, that's a good trophy for me.
Speaker 1: Something Lebron said when I left the East. Lebron was like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad Ron tested on the West now, Like that's
Speaker 1: something I can hold on to, Like I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, I appreciate that one of the
Speaker 1: greatest ever. You know. So, I'm grateful for my career. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna live lost, lost a lot of bread
Speaker 1: in the league, you know so, But it was like
Speaker 1: it was cool, like I'm grateful for a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: me just tell you something, man, your inspiration uh uh
Speaker 1: to every kid from Queen's Bridge me as a person
Speaker 1: that's related to Queen's Bridge, I'm a cousin of Queen's Bridge,
Speaker 1: like maybe even a brother, maybe even like I'm a stepbrother.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we don't got the same mother and father,
Speaker 1: but our families related to all of us, right, So
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that you are. So
Speaker 1: when when you got to the league, bro, I cann't
Speaker 1: I've seen Queensbridge that day, like you know, the draft
Speaker 1: draft and you had to draft. But I'm on twelve
Speaker 1: st and you when you get drafted, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I ever looked at the TV. I just looked
Speaker 1: at everybody else who's happy for you to go to
Speaker 1: the actual league. And I looked and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this is life. I actually brought a lot
Speaker 1: of people from the hood that day. He was burning
Speaker 1: it down. We had a lot, We had a great time.
Speaker 1: We had a great time. That day was the day
Speaker 1: that I realized every hood in the world, they don't hate.
Speaker 1: They want to see the people prosper. The hating process
Speaker 1: comes when you don't do what they expect you to do,
Speaker 1: and that's when the people start to hate you. But
Speaker 1: you I'm not gonna lie. Like I said earlier, your
Speaker 1: father was one of the most brilliant people I ever seen.
Speaker 1: Like I would go to Queensbridge because, um, you know
Speaker 1: in left rack our Nickels just nickels a cracker, Okay
Speaker 1: was this? But I could go to Queensbridge and I
Speaker 1: can buy a dome and this ship it's like twenties
Speaker 1: of ours. So I was I still love just being
Speaker 1: in queens gold Mine. But they didn't look at it
Speaker 1: like that because they just was you know, this is
Speaker 1: their hood. So I'm looking at ever I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. So they didn't understand that. But it was
Speaker 1: one day I was it was raining or maybe he
Speaker 1: was snowing, and I was just in front of forty
Speaker 1: one dash twelve twelve street and I just kept hearing
Speaker 1: the ball bouncing something and I want to look, and
Speaker 1: it was his pops just passing the ball. And I
Speaker 1: looked at us that I was like, and I said,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be rich, because he's gonna endure that.
Speaker 1: And I knew that's what your pops was doing. I'll
Speaker 1: kid you not. I never even told you this story.
Speaker 1: Like I actually just watched this story and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I watched not the stories to
Speaker 1: give me, I watched the actual scene and I looked
Speaker 1: and I was just like, wow, it's the age difference though,
Speaker 1: that you would see him as a kid. Well I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm forty one, but when you're younger. And I'm
Speaker 1: just looking because his father was one of the strongest
Speaker 1: black men I've ever met. I'm just being honest, like
Speaker 1: strong he was. He was a good boy, but he
Speaker 1: like he making sure likes good nor you know, I
Speaker 1: know what your nigs did last night. Like like, I
Speaker 1: loved that he was one. He was he was a
Speaker 1: father figure for me. He was bad, crazy man, say
Speaker 1: good dad, but he got it. I got this dude.
Speaker 1: If he saw somebody getting beat up, like he steps
Speaker 1: in the middle of the I'm like, he jumping in finished.
Speaker 1: You know, I see him saved people lives, you know,
Speaker 1: but he was definitely definitely go people. It was like,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's crazy when I when I made
Speaker 1: it to the NBA, I wanted to be like nas
Speaker 1: seeing it. Mom. D you know, I always you know,
Speaker 1: because your phone not like my third cousin, so we all.
Speaker 1: I always tell people folk, that's my family. Let me
Speaker 1: bring it down. Let me bring it down for people
Speaker 1: who don't who's never been a Queen's bridge, right, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring it down like a queen's bridge guy,
Speaker 1: So let me bring that for people who have never
Speaker 1: been a Queen's bridge. If you walk on Toll Street
Speaker 1: from the Knight Street Bridge, when you walk on the
Speaker 1: left side, all right, you from tom Nity, did you
Speaker 1: bump into h capone and then you bump me to
Speaker 1: Ron or Ron Spars, Ron Brother because they all stars, right,
Speaker 1: and then you bump into havoc. This is it, and
Speaker 1: even bumping you when you come out there, because I
Speaker 1: will be out there. I love twelve Street. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I can say that, did you anywhere? From hold on time?
Speaker 1: We just had this conversation where you said, New York people,
Speaker 1: your motherfucker's too crazy. You want to break down the block.
Speaker 1: You're gonna break down the street. I want to do that. Now.
Speaker 1: If I was to say I have half my ties
Speaker 1: from Queensbridge, guess what I would say. I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta have my ties from queenris to say, well, well,
Speaker 1: part of Queensbridge, I would say, boom, I would say
Speaker 1: the I would say that side. You say, well, what
Speaker 1: side of that side? I would say twelve Street, Well,
Speaker 1: twelve Street is where I rap because of that. But
Speaker 1: I think this man, I have to who And I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of your brother. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever told you that, but I want to say it again.
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate how proud of you. But you
Speaker 1: don't know how inspiring you was to me. You in you.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. But I used to see
Speaker 1: his father training and I want. It inspired me to
Speaker 1: be a better father, inspired me to, um, I want
Speaker 1: to be a better father, wanted me, wanted like you know,
Speaker 1: I sit down, But your father out to be the
Speaker 1: realest thing in Queen's Bridge to me, to me, people
Speaker 1: people messing my father and queens because he just he
Speaker 1: went to work, you know, and he came home and
Speaker 1: that was it. And he was working hard. He lost
Speaker 1: his city job because he was u putting too much
Speaker 1: overtime on his check. So that killed us when that happened,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they separated. That that killed us
Speaker 1: because he can't work for the city no more, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And but yeah, other than that,
Speaker 1: like he tried his hardest man, and he out there
Speaker 1: right now. I just left New York, you know, and
Speaker 1: he's out there working with the kids, you know, with
Speaker 1: more kids before it just me, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: working with all the kids. God bless your past in
Speaker 1: your name, Like it's even ron artest, it's it's the
Speaker 1: artest foundation, you know. But he did it. It's his
Speaker 1: you know, his Uh what is the five ones? He three?
Speaker 1: I'm probably them you're hoping to kids. So now, um,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you a story real quick.
Speaker 1: I mean Jamaica one time, right, so as i'making no Jamaica,
Speaker 1: the country Jamaica right. So I'm in Jamaica right, and
Speaker 1: I'm walking through the ship and one twelve is just
Speaker 1: they're playing basketball. So I'm like, stories, I actually see
Speaker 1: you talking to them about it. I'm like, your want twelve?
Speaker 1: Give me the basketball left, Franck, Yeah, I got the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I got on Slipperts. So one twelve
Speaker 1: actually kind of group wont kind of actually crack me, right,
Speaker 1: So I take the ball and I kicked that ship
Speaker 1: so far so recently recently? Why said the Big three
Speaker 1: and you just kicked the y'all? Yeah, I had I
Speaker 1: had to do it. You know why I did it?
Speaker 1: Ship absolutely absolutely tells what happened. But for one like,
Speaker 1: they don't they don't know the rules yet, so you
Speaker 1: can get away with kicking the ball because nobody ever
Speaker 1: kicked the ball before they're out. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: get getting out the way real quick. And then uh,
Speaker 1: and then the game is too rough, man, the game
Speaker 1: is rough. I'm like, I'm I'm thirty eight, you know,
Speaker 1: and um, I don't want to play rough. No, more.
Speaker 1: May I gotta clean this game up. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know, for being rough. So they start with you
Speaker 1: rough first and were in Detroit. So I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not about I'm not about stop the ball.
Speaker 1: You kicked this, I can get out. I was trying
Speaker 1: to out of the game. It was too impressive. Man
Speaker 1: out hearingson this what happened out hearingson push Pusteve Jackson
Speaker 1: out of bound and the resting called foul. So I'm
Speaker 1: not like, I'm not about to be a part of this.
Speaker 1: I'm out there, get me get that ball. Reten ejected, No,
Speaker 1: no problem, out of here ejected, you know, and I
Speaker 1: and my boy out haringson. You know, he was on
Speaker 1: top of the team. That's my man. I'm not about
Speaker 1: the beginning of the scuff for my man on the court.
Speaker 1: I'm out there. So but but the league is dope.
Speaker 1: You know, um he's playing tomorrow. Correct play them all?
Speaker 1: Ice Cube, yeah kill so so to subscribe this to us,
Speaker 1: how how did you even make this there? Like ice
Speaker 1: Cube called you? Yeah, like so last year I was
Speaker 1: gonna play and I'm on the Big three, the Big three,
Speaker 1: but I was working on I got a digital marketing company.
Speaker 1: So it's like all my time, Yeah did you markt
Speaker 1: and but you know so it's taken up all my time.
Speaker 1: So I come and play. But when I've heard I
Speaker 1: s C on TV talking about we need Kobe, we
Speaker 1: need Lebron, I'm like, you don't really want me like
Speaker 1: so I said, I'm not even gonna play. But he
Speaker 1: hit me up personally. Wow, when he hit me a
Speaker 1: person I'm like, yeah, I'm gone because I was personally like,
Speaker 1: ye would like for you to play blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I said, no doubt because how did he have anversation
Speaker 1: go down? Did he say, look at this ice cube?
Speaker 1: But today, I cup is super professional. Though I cupe reading.
Speaker 1: He paid me for a verse, but I want to
Speaker 1: hit your story. Yeah, I just cave a superfessional vision
Speaker 1: right now. He's a hell of a general manager. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm sorry sorry to cut you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: please make sure that I'll get back to what we
Speaker 1: were saying. Yeah, but the nigga still rolls in the limo.
Speaker 1: Let's respect this nigger. No, the nigga and online when
Speaker 1: he came to our joy, he gave me at people
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I was downstair, Yeah, just waiting
Speaker 1: for the Limo said there was Lego for the may
Speaker 1: back something. I coo, I get it, and I said,
Speaker 1: this nigga cute isn't time. He's killing no that, but
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of money. But he spent a
Speaker 1: lot of his own money last year. But he gonna
Speaker 1: make that money back because you know this. You know
Speaker 1: when you saw the business, you always gonna be in
Speaker 1: the red and he about to be in the blacks
Speaker 1: with that big three people liking huh so he so
Speaker 1: he called you and then he called me and was like, hey, um,
Speaker 1: I want you to play. I said, no doubt. And
Speaker 1: then he was like, can you go back to artests?
Speaker 1: I think it would be cool. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no problem, I'll go back to artists. But then my
Speaker 1: people called him and said, why are you trying to
Speaker 1: exploit the metal world. He's I'm like, he just this
Speaker 1: is cute. He wanted Artests's gonna get artests, but but
Speaker 1: we wasn't gonna do that. I wanted it, but then
Speaker 1: my partner was like, don't do it. I said, I
Speaker 1: or whatever or Cube was great. He everybody's on group
Speaker 1: chat so here a group chat us, the rules group
Speaker 1: chat us. Like any problems every team got there on
Speaker 1: a group chat. You could talk to him, you know,
Speaker 1: and get you can input, get input. He's a better
Speaker 1: like David Stern Like, uh, you know David Stern Man, yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: but he he's going to be a hell of a
Speaker 1: gymer manager. And maybe the NBA might buy it. Why
Speaker 1: I would How would that look though? As a business boss,
Speaker 1: just when you're when your players are done, just go
Speaker 1: to the Big three and you have you have, you
Speaker 1: have a bigger audience. But sometimes your bands don't gotta
Speaker 1: be done. Maybe this is somebody who's come from like
Speaker 1: you know, high school or college, and then they don't
Speaker 1: want to Maybe you don't want to play in the NBA,
Speaker 1: so maybe you want to smoke. That's question. Because we
Speaker 1: had Matt Barns on here. We had Matt balls on here,
Speaker 1: and I passed Matt bonds and blunt down, burn it down,
Speaker 1: down down. He burned it down. And then but see
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to snitch on other people, and
Speaker 1: he didn't want to sneak on other people. So I said,
Speaker 1: do people burn in the NBA? He said, you listen
Speaker 1: to every day I was in the NBA. We burned
Speaker 1: it down. But I said, I said, don't don't y'all
Speaker 1: the y'alls, the y'alls, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 1: if we can't have that, because some of these people
Speaker 1: still getting money, and why is it in the NBA
Speaker 1: that Uh there's people who Colorado, Denver where this is legal,
Speaker 1: right Los Angeles, but they say that even if you
Speaker 1: played for the Lakers, you can't have the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why would the Lakers. The NBA operates by federal it's
Speaker 1: a national league. The federal thing. Fer you're talking about
Speaker 1: states never knew that hold on you you hit me
Speaker 1: on you hit me on the whatever. The federal coming.
Speaker 1: The whole cluntry needs to make it. The NBA and
Speaker 1: the NBA still might not make it legal even if
Speaker 1: it because it's like so many people went to jail
Speaker 1: for marijuana back in the day. Cops can be putting
Speaker 1: down to marijuana. That's why. That's why they don't want
Speaker 1: to make it legal, because they're gonna have to retract
Speaker 1: all that crazy ship they've been doing. It's not right.
Speaker 1: I think it's good. You know, you know, I burned
Speaker 1: it down. A lot of the other days. I ain't
Speaker 1: got a lot to you every day, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be running for
Speaker 1: your life for smoking a blunt. Definitely not, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm for ice Cube pioneered there.
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, if you're playing the game,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be smoking weed before the game? Good? You know,
Speaker 1: you're an adult. Whatever you're playing in the NBA, don't
Speaker 1: smoke weed before the game. Get it out your system,
Speaker 1: you know, and do it in moderation, you know. But
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be like worried about your life for smoking
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Speaker 1: what's the because it's the Kardashian just just just saying
Speaker 1: I was left fright. He was running around. He had
Speaker 1: on the motherfucking I don't know, he had on the
Speaker 1: cool jersey. Yeah, and then different think about it, Lamar.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that go on with Lamar,
Speaker 1: old him like my good friend, his mom. But at
Speaker 1: one what you said it was the cars. We were
Speaker 1: not said with the Kardashians because he was on his deathbed.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, but you were the first thing that
Speaker 1: said the Kardashian is the downfall to every black man man.
Speaker 1: You mean it like, yeah, I like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I just say, i't me like that.
Speaker 1: But before that happened with you said that. Everybody rides
Speaker 1: with you. Now, but everybody says the same thing that
Speaker 1: if you go to the Kardashians, your blackness leaves. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, people say, people say, people say, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of coincidences going down. It's the thing easy to
Speaker 1: say that, so like no, but you know, so with Lamar,
Speaker 1: before that happened with Lamar, I was I was talking
Speaker 1: to um Chris a lot, text me bad. We talk
Speaker 1: um the Chris guy that was from whom Christian Christian,
Speaker 1: the lady okay bid the god. The basketball players, Um,
Speaker 1: I forget his name. Everybody does, but you know, but
Speaker 1: one of them was on his deathbed, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, I panicked. I blamed everybody,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, and I said something that
Speaker 1: shouldn't say because Chloe had Chloe held them all down, Like,
Speaker 1: but what did you exactly say? I was just like
Speaker 1: the Kardashian is messing my boy up? Basically I said that,
Speaker 1: But it was it wasn't quite accurate, you know, because
Speaker 1: Chloe was in the hospital every day. Chloe was talking
Speaker 1: to me also making sure I see them all, you know,
Speaker 1: so shout out to Chloe and then but but let's
Speaker 1: let's clarify that statement. Why did you even make that?
Speaker 1: How did you feel like that? I felt I felt like,
Speaker 1: um stress, I feel it's too much pressure. When you
Speaker 1: went to the Kardashians. It's a you know, you're in
Speaker 1: a network basically, and everything is live and you always
Speaker 1: gotta be on your A game. And I feel like
Speaker 1: it was too much pressure for my boy, you know.
Speaker 1: So you're coming from Queen's. He he out there and
Speaker 1: every time he come outside, it's a camera in his face.
Speaker 1: It is. But it wasn't their fault. His dad, Lama's
Speaker 1: dad was Lama's his mom and dad was like on drugs,
Speaker 1: which is his dad. And he spoke about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see where he came from the stuff he was
Speaker 1: doing with stuff that he's seen. People are thinking Lama
Speaker 1: were crazy, but Lamar and his best friend passed away.
Speaker 1: But what made you, I'm sorry, what made you change
Speaker 1: your mind? Though? The reason I changed your mind when
Speaker 1: I spoke to Chloe Wait, she called you after that.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get to them, and it was
Speaker 1: hard to get to him. Everybody trying to get to
Speaker 1: the law and see how you're doing. Chloe was the
Speaker 1: only way you can get in, and she answered the
Speaker 1: phone personally, everybody, I'm her phone phone, Okay, you called them?
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, yo, can I see Lama? And
Speaker 1: she's making sure we're good. Cloe's a clothe's a real check.
Speaker 1: And you know what you say. She said, she's making
Speaker 1: sure we're good, making sure we're good, making sure we
Speaker 1: getting in, making sure the doctor's lett us. See lamar,
Speaker 1: you know not a lot a lot of people you said,
Speaker 1: just say this is after I said what I said. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing that bad, but you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Let me something I just picked up.
Speaker 1: Um uh, Kim Kardash. A lot of people went over.
Speaker 1: A lot of people has because a lot of people
Speaker 1: they criticize these women for getting plastic surge or whatever
Speaker 1: the fun they do. Gives a fun. I like this
Speaker 1: one because they black niggas. I don't expect that. I
Speaker 1: expect that, so I'm not gonna I'm gonna pick it
Speaker 1: up whatever the fuck they're doing, right. I locked the
Speaker 1: away that Kim freed the black lady. I don't even
Speaker 1: notice lady lame, but she helped free the nigger. She
Speaker 1: went and met with Trump and she freed the nigger.
Speaker 1: The check excuse me and motherfucking college that she held
Speaker 1: them all down, and we didn't we didn't we didn't
Speaker 1: know that. We didn't know that a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know that. You know, a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that. And Chloe and they met at my party. Met.
Speaker 1: I was they you can't say that just like that.
Speaker 1: They met at my party, So like what happened? I
Speaker 1: didn't set it up the marriage. Lets yeah, I was
Speaker 1: coming to l A and then I had a party.
Speaker 1: And then my mament was like, yo, you should get
Speaker 1: because Chode was hosting parties at that time. She was,
Speaker 1: you know, building her us her brain, so she hosts
Speaker 1: the party with me and Chloe. And then Lamar came
Speaker 1: to the partyment, you know, my dude, what up? And
Speaker 1: then I was saying with Chloe for a little bit
Speaker 1: in the same self, thank you for coming to my party.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. She brought a lot of people out,
Speaker 1: and I went back to my table in the Lamar
Speaker 1: and they hooked up right there. Seven days later we
Speaker 1: was at a wedding. Crazy seven days later he was
Speaker 1: at a way. I'm like, yo, my dude, really people quick, queens,
Speaker 1: you can't say that. You can't talk like so you're
Speaker 1: telling me I had no idea. I've never heard of this.
Speaker 1: So you're saying they met at your party. Seven days
Speaker 1: later they was getting married. Seven days later. They got
Speaker 1: married seven days Oh, I've never heard of. It was
Speaker 1: at the wedding and you have the wedding and what
Speaker 1: you're saying to yourself, Wow, wedding was amazing. That a
Speaker 1: nice house, It's amazing. I was like, you got your
Speaker 1: prenum right? You're good? Are you asked them that in there?
Speaker 1: Because exactly lit at that time, that's the way is
Speaker 1: already good. Kid, But that's the that's genocide is good too.
Speaker 1: Jenide is good? Who's genocide? Gender good? But you know,
Speaker 1: Chloe is not on her own now, she's on She
Speaker 1: did what she wants. Now now the whole family is
Speaker 1: good right now? Like the whole family? Yeah, Now, would
Speaker 1: you ever do something like that, like like, hey, Letna
Speaker 1: tall you something honestly about fall in love or data celebrity?
Speaker 1: Like what do you think? What do you think the celebrity?
Speaker 1: I don't don't know right now. My girl is amazing
Speaker 1: right now. But no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: let's celebrity because I just didn't want to be in
Speaker 1: the paper. Then I gotta be holy and I gotta
Speaker 1: be taking picture. I want to dress regular. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on that ship. I never dated celebrity
Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah, I can't do that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's all only gets female celebrities. Right. I had
Speaker 1: my chances. I had some real what do you call it,
Speaker 1: um flattering opportunities, But I ain't take advantage of left.
Speaker 1: So but but so now go through the league. Do
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Played against Kobe Bryant, have your
Speaker 1: plays Jordan's. I played against Jordan's. Who I played against
Speaker 1: Jordan's Jordan was nice at thirty eight. I played against um.
Speaker 1: He wasn't he wanted on the Wizards. I played in
Speaker 1: Jordan on the Wizards. He was on the Wizards and
Speaker 1: he was killing. He had year on that day that yeah,
Speaker 1: he has twenty five. Came back that year, the whole year,
Speaker 1: telling your queen story with Jordan. Please just go serena
Speaker 1: summertime playing that hoops, Jim are Kelly's summertime Jim and
Speaker 1: be a lot of NBA players. It was no kids there, correct,
Speaker 1: you know what? So but Lebron James is a fifteen
Speaker 1: year old Lebron James playing with me, Michael Finley, Jerry
Speaker 1: Stackhouse and so local Ob all in like in I prown,
Speaker 1: they ain't they brown, I'm young, I'm bron James is
Speaker 1: there and um so Jordan's killing everybody, you know. And
Speaker 1: then one game I break jordan Riz by mistake. Right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't on purpose, but by mistake. He was going hard.
Speaker 1: Jordan is crazy to get your get off his chest,
Speaker 1: Get off your chest? Said it mad, No, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I broke Jordan's Ristand did you break by mistake? Bro?
Speaker 1: You my dat street as well? In my mind, how
Speaker 1: did you break his rams stake? So that's what happened.
Speaker 1: When you when you let Jordan at the ball, you're
Speaker 1: as a rap. You know, it's a rap. So my
Speaker 1: mind cannot let him get the ball. He killing us,
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to deny. He kept holding me back.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna let you keep denying because
Speaker 1: I'm losing every single game. So I try to move
Speaker 1: it all out the way not to die. And so
Speaker 1: the is referees and pick up ball. So they call
Speaker 1: offensive felon Jordan's and then I see Jordan's like this
Speaker 1: when when I moved this on my elbowed them in
Speaker 1: the ribs. He hold his ribs like this right now.
Speaker 1: They called offensive l He's like this rev Co offense.
Speaker 1: He pissed right, So we come back down all the
Speaker 1: way we score, we keep he come back down. He
Speaker 1: got the ball like this. I think I think it's
Speaker 1: about six six, game seven, we don't line. Jordan Jumper
Speaker 1: hit the game winner with the rim broken. We literally broken.
Speaker 1: Rib I found out that turn you by mistake. I
Speaker 1: love Jordan. I love that. I'm not gonna lie. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. Wrong, God, you wrong, right, Please,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So everybody call me rhyme, give my mind.
Speaker 1: People don't kids one piece, but I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. You made the hood proud and you're still
Speaker 1: making the hood proud. Just in case you don't know that,
Speaker 1: every little kid uh in Queen's Bride, on twelve Street,
Speaker 1: on Vernon, on Thames Street, on the Hill, on the Reese,
Speaker 1: um uh in those places wherever they at, they look
Speaker 1: and they look at you and they say, if wrong
Speaker 1: could do it, we can do it because how you
Speaker 1: did it and how you staying a lot of people
Speaker 1: change after they make it. You've made it and you
Speaker 1: stayed the same. And I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that people appreciate that, and I'm one of the people
Speaker 1: to appreciate and you gotta be saluted for that. So
Speaker 1: I got a story for you. Okay, let's story for you.
Speaker 1: When he shot the police. Let's because I to go anyway.
Speaker 1: You you recall while he I asked Poine, I say,
Speaker 1: can I talk about this because I didn't want I
Speaker 1: don't know defamation or whatever it's called. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's done. Anyone to think of the jail, yeah, I
Speaker 1: asked him. So, I'm a little nigger on the block,
Speaker 1: coming home from somewhere. It's dark, and I see Poem running.
Speaker 1: Everybody outside. You know, he used to be popping in
Speaker 1: the hood. It's still still popping and now like it
Speaker 1: used to be off like I used to be, so
Speaker 1: put everybody outside pop outside. I see Poem running, I know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I knew it was him. I know
Speaker 1: it's running. Played with Poem and I was young. Poone
Speaker 1: had sixty three and olsar game. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: is the left handed nigga. He's kind of licening ball nice.
Speaker 1: It's kind of I seen him giving nigga sixty and
Speaker 1: again if she was nice, I was on his team.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I was doing journey work. But
Speaker 1: he um, yeah, I'm pung with the left. I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm a young again. I'm like, I've never experienced this
Speaker 1: type of she I'm like, all right, what happens? Now?
Speaker 1: Did he go to jail? Like and they're like yeah,
Speaker 1: then bommy, she was crazy and I was wondering, where
Speaker 1: where were you at? Like what happened? I was y'all
Speaker 1: was doing. That's how he was like, that's how y'all met. Yeah,
Speaker 1: after he shot from that from there, Okay, I always
Speaker 1: wanted to hear that stiff. We met from there and
Speaker 1: then I came home. Yeah, I was block too real ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: because what happened was Poem, Me and Poem was like
Speaker 1: best friends in jail, right, But a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know is you're gonna see a board and Poems
Speaker 1: seem the board, and me and Poems set the board together.
Speaker 1: He got paroled and so you love your You're like, man,
Speaker 1: you go home fantastic, but in your mind, you so
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So what happened was Poem was so happy,
Speaker 1: Like we didn't exchange numbers or nothing. So we were
Speaker 1: two years together straight, but he said, but in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga should wait like another two or three months.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that soon, but in my mind that's
Speaker 1: what I thought. So when you come home, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just go to Queensbridge, l J. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember LJ. It depends LJ from compone is
Speaker 1: building the lobby, all um. I think Fuji something to
Speaker 1: do with foodie. So well, l J. When I came home,
Speaker 1: l J, I went to I, Yeah, yeah, you chased
Speaker 1: out of man Puerto Ricans, Yeahicans, Domericans, Dominicans. I'm Latino good.
Speaker 1: You know you know what? I because my because my
Speaker 1: brother Wally. What then Wally, Wally had beef. I looked
Speaker 1: like Wally at that age, we look the same. And
Speaker 1: they chased me out to school. I had, I'll fight
Speaker 1: you like I'm fighting like a bunch of motherfucker's. Then
Speaker 1: I go back to the principle if I'm like these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's trying to fight me, because like, all right, school's over,
Speaker 1: I ain't going home right now. I'm waiting the five.
Speaker 1: I'll wait till five o'clock. I never go back doing
Speaker 1: five again. I'm not gonna lie seven second. Goddamn it,
Speaker 1: this is man. I'mnna be honest. That's when I knew
Speaker 1: I was, you know, privilege. Oh yeah, at the school
Speaker 1: they go we are and I'm like, oh ship and
Speaker 1: in the latinos like okay, good. Yeah, that's what I knew.
Speaker 1: I said, I got a little bit of leg work
Speaker 1: over there in wood Side, a little this world. So,
Speaker 1: so did you go to Tour four as well? I
Speaker 1: went to Tour four after one. I was waiting to
Speaker 1: go to school. I was out of school. I wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to go backing, you know, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to play ball at once, so you know, I was
Speaker 1: Then I waited went to to A four Wow, and
Speaker 1: then um, somebody discovered me and gave me a scholarship
Speaker 1: to high school. Was Catholic school. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: tell the South Academy, Oh, South Academy. Okay, dream Chat sports,
Speaker 1: You're ready, Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready. What's going on? Man?
Speaker 1: My name is Paul myself. Whenever this drink chat, you're yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? We're doing? Come over here, man, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: come here man, the cigarettes come over here, come over here. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to stop the podcast in the middle, but
Speaker 1: this middle a lot of people. I'm sorry, it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people who deserve to be here. But
Speaker 1: this is my brother. He just came home. How about
Speaker 1: to say to say, I don't know how many years
Speaker 1: have been locked up because they locked up since I
Speaker 1: was eight. I'm gonna be honest one the I love
Speaker 1: you big, everybody. And he might have been seven when
Speaker 1: I got locked up, though, I said eight. O bay,
Speaker 1: But man again, stay at home. We got a position, man,
Speaker 1: But go ahead. I'm sorry. Like I said, you can
Speaker 1: get on it too. This is my podcast, Dream Big,
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Big. I'm shouting out. You know. My my
Speaker 1: angle is being the athletes and entrepreneurs and the good
Speaker 1: stories in the bad story. So you're saying right on,
Speaker 1: right on time. What I like to say is like,
Speaker 1: as far as your dream Big moment, nor re Donet
Speaker 1: spoke on it and ready your father bringing you into that,
Speaker 1: I'm beyond personally that's hard. Nobody, nobody can take that
Speaker 1: away from you or can imitate that. So when when
Speaker 1: did you know, like you just been saying, you was
Speaker 1: getting chased out the I But was you six nine,
Speaker 1: getting tased. I was young. I was, I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I was six maybe six ft maybe six one,
Speaker 1: and yeah, well I probably wasn't six one at that time.
Speaker 1: And you always knew that you was, You was ready.
Speaker 1: Your pop was setting the stage for you knew you
Speaker 1: was gonna take absolutely not. I ain't know I was
Speaker 1: going to leave. I was in tenth grade. I was
Speaker 1: like I might have a shot. At that point. In
Speaker 1: tenth grade, you knew you was going to let's say this,
Speaker 1: and I gotta take a piss. I'm there with you too.
Speaker 1: It was them training kid. You know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what age you were, but I walked through.
Speaker 1: And now, let's due to calculations, right, because my first
Speaker 1: album came out in which means that I had to
Speaker 1: kind of record it in ninety six, right in order
Speaker 1: because this is so, this is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: So let's just say nineties six probably right, because it's
Speaker 1: gonna have been the beginning of and the minute I've
Speaker 1: seen how his father, because his father like he really
Speaker 1: cared about you. He wasn't. He wasn't. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: it makes sense, but it was like rain down rain
Speaker 1: actually rain came down, and I was like, oh, but
Speaker 1: kill him because I knew Queen's was scared of rain.
Speaker 1: Remember the rain had the Columbia joins nine multiple choices
Speaker 1: the Columbian joint. But I looked and I said, you
Speaker 1: some creek got race kids and then niggas. They would
Speaker 1: leave when the rain came, and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: we don't do that and left. Frack. We got were
Speaker 1: standing from the stop one and we still sound but
Speaker 1: we we but the bridge didn't know that at the
Speaker 1: time a ship and at that time the only time
Speaker 1: that was your He was throwing the board the chest
Speaker 1: and he was I can't remember what he was, the
Speaker 1: real Denzel Washington from he said that he says that
Speaker 1: he says that he said something, let's do a movie
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be honest now, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I got I'm agreeing with it because I
Speaker 1: saw it now, because I'm front of forty one dash um.
Speaker 1: This was building and it's only a little thing that
Speaker 1: covers you a little, the little thing that when you
Speaker 1: walk in front of the something I'm in front of it.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, they don't want to come outside. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I got damn dime because I you know, I go.
Speaker 1: I did the whole cell from here, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: now they whole cell to listen. I'm going, wait, greaight,
Speaker 1: too far you go. I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm Herrick, so I'm thinking, is this came? And
Speaker 1: I looked it was you and that was one of
Speaker 1: the only times we had a chance to have it
Speaker 1: to ourselves too. So we love the rain. You know
Speaker 1: you did I tell you this story? I said, yo, listen.
Speaker 1: At first, I said yo. At first, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. But then when I herald us Pop
Speaker 1: speak Godless, immediately that man he came over to us.
Speaker 1: He said something the component because it was like some
Speaker 1: Kenney Do. I think Kenny Doo had came over right there,
Speaker 1: Kenny Do. It was poem Pops obviously, and yep, they
Speaker 1: just said something. And I'm just sitting there. I'm on
Speaker 1: the left. I got nobody knows who the funk I am.
Speaker 1: I'm just there. I'm just there and looked and I
Speaker 1: realized how discipline you were because I wasn't like fuck
Speaker 1: you like and you were just like you looked and
Speaker 1: I could tell every pass that you've caught. You was like,
Speaker 1: but you didn't say it. You were just like I
Speaker 1: looked at you, and I was like, there's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way that man is not gonna make it
Speaker 1: fall my mind. And and and for sure you did
Speaker 1: exactly a lot of kid. You not my son, my son,
Speaker 1: because I said, Yo, sorry, I know you met a
Speaker 1: world person. Piece excuse me, and he said, my son, egogle,
Speaker 1: every basketball player in the world. He said, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna fight. I said, what, but that's up. So I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: I know him before anybody. I guess. As fame goes,
Speaker 1: sun goes, then my oldest son right there, my oldest
Speaker 1: not seen what's up? He goes, Yeah, I know, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But that's real, ship man, Like you know, for me
Speaker 1: to see your success, for me to see you, you know,
Speaker 1: that makes me a better person. It makes me a
Speaker 1: better individual, makes me a better person. That think wise
Speaker 1: because it knows that me you compone nas having. We
Speaker 1: gotta keep spreading that from our town, our places. You
Speaker 1: can be bigger than even us. I mean, y'all when
Speaker 1: y'all was doing y'all thing, I wanted to be just
Speaker 1: like y'all, I ain't a lie, you know. And I
Speaker 1: always brought that because it's like it was the only
Speaker 1: reference point I had. It was all did cnn nas.
Speaker 1: It was a bunch of others too. Screwball I did
Speaker 1: because of these guys like, yeah, well actually everybody wrap,
Speaker 1: but you dropped. I don't know you recorded a screwballs
Speaker 1: my brother in law, screw boys, you know, and yeah
Speaker 1: it was crazy, but yeah, but you know, it was
Speaker 1: just like it was just inspiring. And when when I
Speaker 1: when I made it, all my friends want to be
Speaker 1: like they want to be like them for real because
Speaker 1: we all started rapping. I should have just stayed marketing
Speaker 1: the car. But as long as you have fun, because
Speaker 1: you know what, I waiting for you to come back.
Speaker 1: I gotta takes um. But you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Um, you're so much of inspiration
Speaker 1: for the people in Queen's Bridge. Like I've seen I
Speaker 1: seen one time I was in Zoe's place. I seen
Speaker 1: you just drove by. He's like, you just drove by,
Speaker 1: and I remember the whole block and there's a little
Speaker 1: like anybody's just like yo, I just drove through like,
Speaker 1: do you you understand how much of an inspiration you offered.
Speaker 1: I was always back, man, I never you know. It's
Speaker 1: just like when you talk about like Queen's brand and
Speaker 1: everybody rappids, that's from there when I when I left.
Speaker 1: When I left, I always wanted to make sure I
Speaker 1: always came back. That's what it was about, you know.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I would be the only one there, you know.
Speaker 1: But but then you know, but then it was like
Speaker 1: so much going on because like, yeah, I honestly I
Speaker 1: always wanted to be in a home with like you
Speaker 1: and mob and not that's like at the same time,
Speaker 1: and never never really was like that seeing them mobs
Speaker 1: Ronald Test just chilling. I'm gonna tell you, like this,
Speaker 1: it was I was gonna be like that. Now I's
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. I was always mad about that,
Speaker 1: Like why I said it. Sometimes I was talking to media.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk too much out of line
Speaker 1: because Nasti is like a big brother and you know,
Speaker 1: having his like my family is so crack on the
Speaker 1: same floor, same same right there, you know, And I
Speaker 1: was like, why did nobody comes together? Why nobody? Why
Speaker 1: does nobody doing records together? It used to kill me
Speaker 1: because like I'm like all for it. I'm for it.
Speaker 1: But you know, but now everybody's still doing anything. And
Speaker 1: you know, I hope I would love one day for
Speaker 1: it to kind of be like that. You know, it
Speaker 1: was crazy, it was amazing. I definitely inspired me. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonnae. I don't know if I would have made
Speaker 1: it without you, because I like, I wanted to be something.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be something, you know. Um, And I
Speaker 1: was always like the music was always like something I
Speaker 1: can relate to and something that pushed me. Absolutely, I'm
Speaker 1: getting something a little a little emotional. But um, where
Speaker 1: was you at when you when you heard the Prodigy pass? Um?
Speaker 1: Probably I speak to Prodigy, you know text Prodigy. Prodigy
Speaker 1: is one of my He's he's a real dude. We
Speaker 1: started Infamous Records. I was the first investor Infamous Records. Um,
Speaker 1: but nobody knew that. But um, you know, and probably
Speaker 1: just a big brother, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: when he passed away, it was tough. Man. It was
Speaker 1: like it was unreal. Couldn't believe it. Didn't think it
Speaker 1: was real. You know, I just saw him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just seeing that he's too young. He's
Speaker 1: too young, ago away And that was a tough one, man,
Speaker 1: because my favorite record of all time is better than Memorial,
Speaker 1: you know. And I would tell him that that's my
Speaker 1: favorite record and uh and um you know that was
Speaker 1: that was That was a tough one. But his sons
Speaker 1: a producer. I hope his son makes beats for everybody.
Speaker 1: And let's do that. Let's do that, Let's do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that, man. But um, I'm gonna be I
Speaker 1: just I just wanted you to know, man, we're proud
Speaker 1: of you. Us in Queens. We're holding you down. We're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna continue to represent for you. But
Speaker 1: now now let's get to my chaff. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Now this is this is this listen. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't laugh with tears. Come on, ma,
Speaker 1: But you're on ESPN, T and T same, this thing
Speaker 1: is on national TV. Right. What did you just play
Speaker 1: against Kobe? What's he was playing against? Um? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well I said it when he was alive. I said
Speaker 1: when he passed away, I had his I had his
Speaker 1: name right in my heavy play against James. Now put
Speaker 1: his name. But yeah, when he was alive, all right,
Speaker 1: when he was alive, so they said, they said to him,
Speaker 1: they said, y'all, what's this toughest game you had? The
Speaker 1: god or someone like? This is the color? He says,
Speaker 1: I said, well, it's the toughest person you ever had.
Speaker 1: God film, I should kill me. But now if you
Speaker 1: don't know who Mike Chappen, now let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. Mike Chapter comes to the jail. This nigger
Speaker 1: arms like he just walks to the jail. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: into jail. He walks in. Just look at this thick.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I feel like I know you,
Speaker 1: he said from Queensbridge. I know it. I knew it.
Speaker 1: And this nigger arms to me. You cannot take the
Speaker 1: ball from this thicker. But when he was in jail,
Speaker 1: playing against he was a ball up. So nobody ke
Speaker 1: He just said he went to jail like he was
Speaker 1: in jail. No nig went to jail. He didn't even
Speaker 1: tell nobody he plays ball. So he jail. He's not
Speaker 1: visiting you like I'm a batt j right, but mind
Speaker 1: you comes to and he's like yeo, He's like, I
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm ever because remind you, this
Speaker 1: is noon and Noriega ship, this is before. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking and then just one day this think it just
Speaker 1: grabbed the ball and we're go on the ball court
Speaker 1: and this nick it just grabbed the ball. He was
Speaker 1: just like, and I kid you not, you cannot take
Speaker 1: the ball. He was a special player, was a dude.
Speaker 1: And I'm just I was like once I knew that,
Speaker 1: I was like, I wanted to play against everybody. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, cool me. I never knew that. I
Speaker 1: alread he was ball. I already was working out in jail. No,
Speaker 1: he got busy, and they said he that was my
Speaker 1: secret weapon. So when you said that, and you said
Speaker 1: the nigger said was this hard? And you said the
Speaker 1: hardest player I ever played against, Mike chap Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Yes came out. So Mike, Mike and
Speaker 1: Kobe they remind me of each other. Their toughness. They
Speaker 1: definitely And then I never knew Mike beat right. He
Speaker 1: I saw about him last week at Zoe reason right,
Speaker 1: he told me, And then I'm like, oh, well it
Speaker 1: might be me thirty two to two when I was thirteen,
Speaker 1: he beat right? He like, right, he scored a little more, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 1: remember the score. Remember I'm never going to figure that score,
Speaker 1: never gonna figuret that scores. That made you great? Two
Speaker 1: to two he beat right, hem thirty two to twice.
Speaker 1: I scored once. Oh and right, he might think right,
Speaker 1: he might have had like twenty six. Right, he was nice.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he'd be right here. But Mike was. Um.
Speaker 1: He was in jail with seventeen years old at the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: we was in kidding jail together. Yes, the seven sixteen
Speaker 1: seven sixteen, Yes, was on the other side. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: how we all know each other. That's crazy. When it
Speaker 1: was nice too and I'm three, but um, But then
Speaker 1: when when Mike, he was all supposed to LC me,
Speaker 1: Mike and Reggie Jessie went to Beshop Block and St.
Speaker 1: John's and me Mike Chadfield brother who was like with
Speaker 1: me at High Scho High School. I have twenty five,
Speaker 1: my Chatfield brother. I was twenty two. What's your new
Speaker 1: Mexico and all that you know? And then Mike, when
Speaker 1: he came out of jail, we knew Mike was nice. Um,
Speaker 1: but then you know, Mike love the streets. Mike love
Speaker 1: of the streets, and I just I don't, I know,
Speaker 1: I never really got it, but that's my man. He
Speaker 1: was the best. And when when I shouted him out
Speaker 1: like I'm always gonna let you know that he was
Speaker 1: the best. And then I got my chance to say
Speaker 1: it on t NC, he hit me up. Yo, he
Speaker 1: in the streets hustling like your things for that he
Speaker 1: still that's my I'm I'm like when he said that,
Speaker 1: because because no one in the world knew what the
Speaker 1: funding was talking about, Kenny Sniff did about what the
Speaker 1: thing was. That's we have so many unsung heroes, right,
Speaker 1: that's from my hood, Like so many people that have
Speaker 1: this props, but they don't actually be recognized. It was
Speaker 1: a bunch of people in front of me. It was right,
Speaker 1: hein Johnson, the NINAS was nice, Mike chad Field Esse
Speaker 1: I had, you know, and then like sometimes you get
Speaker 1: lucky and the ship just opened up for me because
Speaker 1: they stopped playing. You know a lot of the guys
Speaker 1: stopped playing. You know, he law the streets to my dude,
Speaker 1: what do you think, what do you think? Because it
Speaker 1: was too easy for him, right, you gotta think about it.
Speaker 1: When right, we played against left right, right, he would
Speaker 1: give us forty We had no chance. Right, he was
Speaker 1: too nice. He had no chance, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think it was too easy for him to early. Um,
Speaker 1: he played. They got bored with it. At the NBA camp,
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited. It was the top hundred players,
Speaker 1: right he was. They were Kobe has to picture I
Speaker 1: post on my Instagram, right he was. He was nice
Speaker 1: And um, I always gonna tell him that to you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: to be honest, man, bro, you you're a great guy. Man,
Speaker 1: Be honest. I'm trying to give you all. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not wrong back there, you know you let
Speaker 1: me just let me just keep it keep what's what's Vick?
Speaker 1: You know? Vic? Ye? Yes, Well I'm I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell your classic story.
Speaker 1: No queens, so Vic Vic and half like he was
Speaker 1: half for the weekend, like they kept comparing. Well, well, no,
Speaker 1: he had curly here, yeah, curly here, right, I got
Speaker 1: curly here. Right. So there's the top two niggas. Right,
Speaker 1: So Vick comes to you know, that's Roight Hines fake
Speaker 1: cousin too, right, So they bring they bring them to
Speaker 1: the left. Frack, I got on the I caught him
Speaker 1: the shoes, so it comes on. They said, I'm you're
Speaker 1: the only guy I gotta beat on the top and
Speaker 1: y player. Y'all definitely didn't say that then, but it
Speaker 1: just I'm powaphrase. So the niggas said, Yo, y'all, I's
Speaker 1: do it right now. Damn, I got on shoes. This
Speaker 1: is a legendary story around him with Cosan. I get
Speaker 1: the nigga, I get the niggas gave him. I had
Speaker 1: on No, he had on shoes. I gave him, yeah,
Speaker 1: and bust them by one point. That's right, only by
Speaker 1: one point, because I was I didn't know what it
Speaker 1: was that the nigga was nice, I said, but I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. It was only the problem of the
Speaker 1: hood that made me win. Like I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: like the nigga had me like he had me in
Speaker 1: my shoes. But I said, I was, you know, you
Speaker 1: know your hood. You start, you know you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Is the only two of y'all from Queens. You gotta relax. Fantastic,
Speaker 1: my nigga, And that's why you ever played against Havoc.
Speaker 1: Don't have his trash. It was not that bad having trash,
Speaker 1: just trash. And yeah in ball they trashi nas trash.
Speaker 1: I've never seen nas plash. I've never seen n. I
Speaker 1: love nas, think fund and everything I got going on
Speaker 1: right now. I love you also seen you. I don't
Speaker 1: think listen right now, let's what we should do, massive
Speaker 1: pill against drink Champs basketball game. We're gonna throw it
Speaker 1: out there right now. But but we don't want to
Speaker 1: play against the staff. We want to play against jungle nas. Yeah, Davies, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to do it because I'm honest looking at you,
Speaker 1: I think you trash to oh you you go to
Speaker 1: the sideline. But I'm going right now. We need like
Speaker 1: now now I wanna um because I got to go
Speaker 1: the bath, but no, I want to enforce how real
Speaker 1: is having a reinforcement guy like you on the team,
Speaker 1: because like Dennis Rodman was one thing, like I felt
Speaker 1: like he paved the way for you. Am I correcting
Speaker 1: my We were similar but different because I was a scorer,
Speaker 1: you know, and you didn't have blonde here I didn't
Speaker 1: have you did. Because you can definitely my favorite player.
Speaker 1: I want ninety one because of Dennist Like that's my
Speaker 1: favorite player. So so how did you how did you
Speaker 1: develop like you know, like fun that you're not scoring
Speaker 1: on me. I mean, honestly, it came from Tall Street,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's where it came from.
Speaker 1: You know, keep going and you're playing with the guys
Speaker 1: and you can't get on the court. You can't get
Speaker 1: on the court, you know, unless you ready. And there's
Speaker 1: only one quote on twelve set. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: running and I don't know. I don't want to as well.
Speaker 1: I'm staying at Yeah, I'm staying right and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going one of any one of those runers.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not going to pass it and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I'm not going cool. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: go to Baby Park. Baby Park is cool, and they
Speaker 1: go to Baby Park, but the hill is real too,
Speaker 1: um um the Reese. You don't want to I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a game. So I stayed on tell the Street.
Speaker 1: And then in order to get on the court, you
Speaker 1: had to make it. And I started to make it.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's They would try to thug me out, and I
Speaker 1: started to get bigger and bigger, and I was I
Speaker 1: was playing with the men at like twelve thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I'm playing with my pops every night, so I
Speaker 1: was ready for all those elbows they were throwing, you know,
Speaker 1: and they did. They let me play every time. I
Speaker 1: was the only the only teenager playing. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: a teenager. I like twel years old and I was
Speaker 1: locking motherfucker's up. Now you go to the NBA, and
Speaker 1: now when is the time where they say this is
Speaker 1: the guy? Because at one point people would just like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna because you're just intimidating everybody. No
Speaker 1: one wants to go to the hole. This is this
Speaker 1: is what it was. This is what it was like.
Speaker 1: They would they would say like I was fouling stuff,
Speaker 1: but I never really fouled out. And I would use
Speaker 1: all my fouls. I know, when I had five, I'm
Speaker 1: not getting six because I'm gonna be honest right there, Um,
Speaker 1: that was all your fouls. Now, at one point, he
Speaker 1: was just the foul guy. He was just listen, listen.
Speaker 1: They just put him the game of foul people people.
Speaker 1: And then you get about listen, yo, he thought he
Speaker 1: was nice. He's never nice to play the game. Just
Speaker 1: to found people. He's a much that's but but he
Speaker 1: he is a butcher, you know, So how did you
Speaker 1: develop that? Man? Telling it's like no one, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like I feel like there was a lot of
Speaker 1: all stars getting like a lot of um recognition, and
Speaker 1: then like I wasn't getting as recognition because I wasn't
Speaker 1: a high jumper. So I decided to really take defense
Speaker 1: to the next level. And honest, in some games, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even want to rebou I wouldn't want to get
Speaker 1: no stats, which hurt me a little bit. But sometimes
Speaker 1: I get, like, you know, some remounds of fall in
Speaker 1: my hands. So I got to rebounds maybe like four points,
Speaker 1: maybe six points, and be the best player on the floor.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be the best player on the floor.
Speaker 1: But I was strolling without getting rebound, without without any stats,
Speaker 1: and I was able to do that. Sometimes I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll walk on the floor and I had at least
Speaker 1: some other points, but we win and I shut down
Speaker 1: my opponent, and I'm the best foot player on the
Speaker 1: floor without any stats, you know. And it's hard to do.
Speaker 1: But you gotta get a lot of deflections. You gotta
Speaker 1: do all you you gotta box out every single time.
Speaker 1: Fifty bowls. You know, good passes, you know, good defense,
Speaker 1: and you're the best player on the floor. But just
Speaker 1: defense and win the game. And when the game not
Speaker 1: a Big three, are you enjoying it? I'm I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: the Big three? You know. It's it's a little time
Speaker 1: consuming because, like, you know, just all the stuff I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do. Now, you know, they pay they pay us.
Speaker 1: You know, it pay us a hunting racks fifty after tax,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you make so much one in
Speaker 1: the NBA, that's not as motivating, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the season is like ten weeks you go. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not as motivating as the NBA. Check but it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's for ice Cube. I want to see it do well,
Speaker 1: you know, and um, it feels like the NBA. But
Speaker 1: the salaries are going to be going up next year.
Speaker 1: They're going to continue to go up. But is that
Speaker 1: aspected as a player to join or just be happy
Speaker 1: that they're part of Big three? No? But I think
Speaker 1: right now you're paving the way. I'm happy that I'm
Speaker 1: paving away for somebody else. We're not reading the benefits.
Speaker 1: Oh man, um you know my favorite record, the record
Speaker 1: um L A l A Big City of Dreams. But
Speaker 1: I like the remix Queens Rich for real. We're not
Speaker 1: We're not wrapping it up street find this in the building.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, I get it. They
Speaker 1: get that's my man? Is that nuts? Okay? A one time,
Speaker 1: one time? Yeah, I was just I definitely wanted to
Speaker 1: smoke so so um So, Now when you look at
Speaker 1: what's happened in the NBA right now, because well I
Speaker 1: have to ask you, right, because you're an NBA expert
Speaker 1: and more than anybody in this room. Bron went to
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Cousins also goes Golden State. What is gonna
Speaker 1: happen next year? What is gonna happen this year? It
Speaker 1: is the East doesn't even matter. I like I like
Speaker 1: the um I like the big I like the super teams.
Speaker 1: You know, I like the super teams because um, I
Speaker 1: like the super teams because sometimes in the NBA you
Speaker 1: don't have to be that nice to be on the squad.
Speaker 1: If you just have good connections with the super teams,
Speaker 1: you've gotta be nice. Now, you know I was trying
Speaker 1: to get twenty years in the least. I kind of
Speaker 1: made it if I wanted to, you know. But you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just when you're out or with the super teams,
Speaker 1: you've gotta be nice, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's like I'm hoping it's more super teams,
Speaker 1: because one, dude, you can't be in the game when
Speaker 1: you're going up against um Durant, Carry and Clay. You
Speaker 1: gotta be you gotta be ready. So I hope they
Speaker 1: I hope they get more, and I hope some people
Speaker 1: from call you and say, listen, yeah, I need you
Speaker 1: to suit up yellow on purple. What you're doing. I
Speaker 1: don't playing one on one first, I'm gonna tell you why,
Speaker 1: because like my mind is not what basketball is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like rich, No, I'm just saying when
Speaker 1: you think like that, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: I don't want to wrap wrap It's okay, but because
Speaker 1: I'm just it's just like so much politics involved. I
Speaker 1: get ready for a season and you don't play well,
Speaker 1: you get so ready to bring somebody else and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what am I getting ready for? But if I play
Speaker 1: Lebron one on one. Alright, cool, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: in and get in shape. I'm ready one of the
Speaker 1: one real quick. I'm not gonna look. Motivate me here,
Speaker 1: motivate me. I'm looking at you. You look in shape
Speaker 1: right now, I'm having bad shape. What you want to So?
Speaker 1: What what is in shape? Honestly? Your father, that's you.
Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta call your father tomorrow say thank you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You just happened a three way.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah for that hang off. But because
Speaker 1: because you look, look that's installed in your brain. You're
Speaker 1: already you're supposed to be, and you want to be
Speaker 1: the person that you you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: could definitely do it. I can definitely bust. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are asking the league. Absolutely, but I'm not Lebron.
Speaker 1: Let's not go. There's a lot of people I could bust.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a lot of people ask like
Speaker 1: a bust. But now I'm coaching this young boy, so
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not trying to make it as
Speaker 1: much cause I'm helping going with you. I'm going with you.
Speaker 1: He's my guy. The Lakers might win it next year.
Speaker 1: By the way, you no, stop, stop stop. How many
Speaker 1: more spots they got left to fill? They got a
Speaker 1: couple of spots. They got the brain and they got money. No,
Speaker 1: they got listen, got Lebron and nobody. Right now, we
Speaker 1: don't know what the young boys gonna do coming back.
Speaker 1: We don't know how good they're gonna be. Who knows,
Speaker 1: Like did they get did they get that much better?
Speaker 1: If they did, who's came back better? They whose was nice?
Speaker 1: Ever considered about being a coach. Yeah, I'm coaching like
Speaker 1: I coached the South Bay Lakers. You know, they gave
Speaker 1: me the opportunity to what Lakers? South Bay? It's like
Speaker 1: the Lakers little little league team? Can you invite me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I just like practice with them. By
Speaker 1: the way, did you didn't even invite me the Big Three? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I got your tickets. Yeah, cool, I got
Speaker 1: tickets for your cool. Cool just handing that right now,
Speaker 1: I'm getting my government. We got the Big Three. When
Speaker 1: you see a seat, take the seat. But yes, people
Speaker 1: are roaming around. It's a dope experience. So it's it's
Speaker 1: not like when I go to the heat because I
Speaker 1: got to eat. I got, I got, you know, the
Speaker 1: v I p section the cold because I ain't like
Speaker 1: that's not no nothing like that. A little more simpler,
Speaker 1: little now. But it's dope that you enjoy it. Man,
Speaker 1: And it's your first year, the Big Three, my first year. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know it's just fun. You know, I'm just going
Speaker 1: it's like Rucker. It's like an upgraded Rucker. Like it's
Speaker 1: definitely upgraded, definitely graded Rucker. They're gonna kill they're doing anything.
Speaker 1: But if I had like a whole year, if prepare
Speaker 1: for it, I would I get more ready. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't mentally, you know, I'm not like workout every day
Speaker 1: I come up. I want to win, like I'm just not.
Speaker 1: So why exactly as you kicked the ball, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why I kicked the ball. I tell you
Speaker 1: I keep the ball, you know, I keep the ball.
Speaker 1: In one twelve, he told me that, Yeah, yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: kicked the ball. On one twelf everybody kicked the ball.
Speaker 1: Keep the ball. I'm gonna throw that out there like that,
Speaker 1: even if I'm even if I'm losing like that, hey
Speaker 1: just just qualify the game. Sorry, but I'm saying that's
Speaker 1: not what happened with you. Hey when it Steve Jackson
Speaker 1: got pushed by Al Harrison, I'm like the rest of
Speaker 1: cold fair. I'm like, if he didn't see that, I
Speaker 1: don't need to be in this game. So I was
Speaker 1: trying to get the ball, you know, I just show
Speaker 1: him how bad the referee you are and kick it
Speaker 1: and m he injected me. I'm like, thank you. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in this game. I want to play.
Speaker 1: I need rules, you know what I'm saying, what's the rules?
Speaker 1: You know? Like I talked and I talked to as
Speaker 1: cuming them about it, you know, and like just cold
Speaker 1: real fat. I don't mind grinding, but I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be like headlocking somebody pushing somebody there, Like he's
Speaker 1: setting us up. He's setting us up for the big
Speaker 1: browl again. You're getting fight, you know for me, Like
Speaker 1: because if you push me, I'm like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let you keep pushing me. I can't turn it off,
Speaker 1: you know, So the rest gotta the reals gotta controller.
Speaker 1: So now this fourteen years between you and Jamine, I
Speaker 1: can't understand that. Like I know I asked you that earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I can't understand, like, like you don't gonna stands
Speaker 1: by yourself. You from what I see, you didn't look.
Speaker 1: You didn't care if anybody's behind you. You just wanted
Speaker 1: to get the neggle to hit you with this orange.
Speaker 1: I really didn't want them to run behind me. They
Speaker 1: did because they real, but I didn't. They lost a
Speaker 1: lot of money too, But but why so why why
Speaker 1: didn't y'all speak after that? Because you lost money and
Speaker 1: they lost, So why wouldn't y'all? That was crazy to
Speaker 1: me because it was like this wasn't honestly, it wasn't
Speaker 1: out of disrespect, like I never really went to lunch,
Speaker 1: but anybody with anybody, right, I really I respect Jermaine.
Speaker 1: Like we got on that floor. I practiced as crazy,
Speaker 1: real competitive, you know, because Jermaine is crazy. I'm crazy,
Speaker 1: actually crazy. We gotta bunch of you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying it reg Miller, Oh yeah, sorry, regime regiment. Regime
Speaker 1: Miller was still there, you know. And practice was competitive,
Speaker 1: you know, and that was it. And I when I'm competing,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about tomorrow's practice. So I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: go out with anybody, you know, I want to bush
Speaker 1: your as small and as every day, and I never
Speaker 1: was able to turn it off and just get some
Speaker 1: lunch and just chill. You know. I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to chill, you know, And that's why. But they understanding you,
Speaker 1: you don't understand. And I was I was young, nineteen,
Speaker 1: I had a baby, you know, and um, I have
Speaker 1: a baby when I was seventeen, going to a couple
Speaker 1: of things with the WIFEE. So my mind wasn't all
Speaker 1: the way on the court. Also, you know, I was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I'm gonna do as nineteen
Speaker 1: or I got all this money. No, I'm just like
Speaker 1: doing I'm doing crazy show. I'm not really focused on
Speaker 1: like just just ball, you know. No. But but but
Speaker 1: here's the reason why I asked you this, right, It's
Speaker 1: because immediately when we get somebody that we know they
Speaker 1: don't drink champs, I get my go with thee go
Speaker 1: at and he googled something. And when he googles it,
Speaker 1: and then the first thing that popped up was, um,
Speaker 1: that speaks the first time for fourteen years. And it
Speaker 1: fucked me up because I'm thinking, I'm not thinking the
Speaker 1: incident that doesn't pop in my mind. I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: they were both at they were both paces at the
Speaker 1: same time. So I'm like, all right, I'm thinking like that,
Speaker 1: and then or of a sudden, I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're saying, give me if I'm wrong. What you're saying
Speaker 1: it was kind of like your fault because you were
Speaker 1: kind of like in the league, but you were like defensive,
Speaker 1: like you really want that in the industry. I used
Speaker 1: to be like that in the industry. And I'm saying
Speaker 1: with some of my best friends, by the way, is
Speaker 1: out Hearington, Wow, Steve Man. I talked to them, and
Speaker 1: I talked about the people you know, Um, not because
Speaker 1: of any disrespect, just you know, but I functioned with them,
Speaker 1: Wow Hearings and always reach out, yo, let's get some lunch,
Speaker 1: you know. And and Steve, you actually what they reach
Speaker 1: out all the time. I always invited me everywhere, you know,
Speaker 1: And I remember that to this day, you know, invited
Speaker 1: me everywhere. I just went out. And it wasn't just
Speaker 1: done my other teams too. I I got to go
Speaker 1: to my room. I try to get my rests, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm always thinking about the game wow.
Speaker 1: In practice. But as I got older, you know, I
Speaker 1: was just chilling. I can't I didn't care, I said,
Speaker 1: I prepared and all the time, I just wanna have fun.
Speaker 1: We lose whatever, because you know, I take losing to first.
Speaker 1: I was in the maskment gardens and I threw the camera.
Speaker 1: I took the camera off the guy. To what I
Speaker 1: was mad. We lost a lot. That's the world up.
Speaker 1: As soon as I said, ya, I got, I said,
Speaker 1: I got, we got medals and night, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know that they kicked the ball just like you.
Speaker 1: And I think the camera it was a hundred thou camel,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean for the camera. So I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking about the camera. I'm just I'm just mad
Speaker 1: a and I'm like, fuck, I'll ask I had a
Speaker 1: camera to fix the pieces, like maybe I can make
Speaker 1: eight back. That's a lot of money. They ain't even
Speaker 1: give me the camera back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix that and use that. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy like that. But but I'm happy
Speaker 1: with everything. Though. You think the NBA is so off
Speaker 1: right now now it's back now. It was so if
Speaker 1: you say that because the seven years, but let me
Speaker 1: let me explain. Let me explain where I'm coming from
Speaker 1: the Jordan Barkley era. Yeah, these niggas was elbowing each
Speaker 1: other all that. Yeah yeah yeah. Then they got the
Speaker 1: next era and now they got this arrow even if
Speaker 1: they come near you. Yeah they got yeah yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. But then you got a dreamond Green. He
Speaker 1: played like you. It's a couple of guys that could
Speaker 1: have played back in the days. This like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. I couldn't say that the league super
Speaker 1: soft right now? Physical So cousins Lebron said, you said
Speaker 1: the league is super soft. Say that you try to
Speaker 1: say that and just kept going. The league is not
Speaker 1: right now. I feel like that. I feel like, no,
Speaker 1: not right now. It was. It was. It was like
Speaker 1: maybe three or four years ago. It was super soft
Speaker 1: because they called every foul. So what they did was
Speaker 1: the overseas players wasn't physical enough to play in the NBA.
Speaker 1: You want to expand your game, and when you're coming
Speaker 1: over here and you're playing the old rule, you don't
Speaker 1: want to got a chance against US Americans over here.
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, until you evolved. They had, they happened quicker
Speaker 1: at it, so they opened it up. Yeah, that they
Speaker 1: let their loud zone, you know, and the shooters, the
Speaker 1: better shooters are all overseas, so there was a lot
Speaker 1: of rules. So there wasn't let you bump, Like if
Speaker 1: Curry's coming off me and I hit him, I can't
Speaker 1: bump them like before you could do. All that said,
Speaker 1: they freed the game for the for the for the
Speaker 1: smaller players, you know. And but now I feel like
Speaker 1: this again is coming back game more physical. They wanted
Speaker 1: to be more physical. He played against that. I played
Speaker 1: against him, man na. I never shot him down very
Speaker 1: hard to shut him down. I never I mean, I
Speaker 1: wasn't in my prime. And then at the same time,
Speaker 1: like I didn't play agains him a lot. It would
Speaker 1: have been fun, you know, But now he was already
Speaker 1: going that way. How about k D k D. I
Speaker 1: called k D and my prime and I was abled
Speaker 1: to I think, I think, I think he shot twenty
Speaker 1: nine percent and the playoffs, But that's when he was young.
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready at
Speaker 1: that time. He was he was, he was becoming ready.
Speaker 1: He's just see him. But I called him on the
Speaker 1: perfect time because he was probably right now. You probably
Speaker 1: gave me Phanzy so where do you rank yourself as
Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the world, Because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, I only have two defensive players and yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's the only Dinnis probing in you. And I
Speaker 1: don't care, don't care. Any day it could be you
Speaker 1: one number one, it could be here, amazing. I don't
Speaker 1: give enough credit. I give him credit. I always trying
Speaker 1: to shout that a lot of you, that nigga living,
Speaker 1: that nigga living down the block. I see the snicker
Speaker 1: all the time. And once I was gonna, I was
Speaker 1: gonna wastz this up. It's not his podcast. No, he's
Speaker 1: my guy. But he was litt and I looked probably
Speaker 1: not as much no more. I had to leave because
Speaker 1: I don't want don't want to stay that. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. I was just like, he
Speaker 1: smacked every bitch ass that walked through that and I'm
Speaker 1: with my wife and I'm gonna be honest my wife.
Speaker 1: So I walked through, and my wife about to walk through.
Speaker 1: I said, hold on, baby, relaxed, stay over there, and
Speaker 1: then every other bitch that walked through, and I looked
Speaker 1: at this nig I said, listen, and all his homies OneD,
Speaker 1: and I just looked at this thing, and I said,
Speaker 1: be sure because his boat is balked under my house.
Speaker 1: You don't understand. He has a boat called the Rodman
Speaker 1: in front of my house. So I'm like, nigga, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna win tonight, and you're not gonna win getting
Speaker 1: in your boat. So I'm giving him that look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that nigga ain't Yeah, that sounds like about And he
Speaker 1: was just like and his people said leave this thing along,
Speaker 1: and I stood there. I'm done long. I stood there
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, I don't even know what
Speaker 1: Marada is, but but big up the dinnis. But he's
Speaker 1: a crazy yeah he Dennis. Dennis is Korea. I've never
Speaker 1: been in North Korea, Korea. I love what Dennis did. Man,
Speaker 1: he just wanted to bring peace. That the first time
Speaker 1: was wrong. He was drunk. You know, he's still on
Speaker 1: cocaine to this day, to this day. The first time,
Speaker 1: but little cocaine jaws. I felt, I said, I said,
Speaker 1: I don't got no right there like this nigger right now,
Speaker 1: this Nigel, I feel. I feel Dennis though, man, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like that's my nigga with him. Who he growing
Speaker 1: no parents. His life was crazy. He was he was
Speaker 1: everything that's not he didn't have. You gotta calling a
Speaker 1: lecture McDonald too, Maybe Madonnald you were entitled to be
Speaker 1: crazy like you got. God damn it. You have to
Speaker 1: fightest white pussy in the world. Why your is not?
Speaker 1: It's funny, that's the best finest white pussy in the world.
Speaker 1: My wife is not here. Everybody looking around thinking like,
Speaker 1: my wife is here. Okay, if even he was here,
Speaker 1: it's okay. She knows understanding. It's some fine white pussy
Speaker 1: other there. You gotta looking at me like, how are
Speaker 1: you going to end this? Sorr, How are you gonna stop?
Speaker 1: How does it I'm saying it's some fine white pussy
Speaker 1: out there. You sometimes nig has got to do it
Speaker 1: for real. You gotta ended him in North Korea, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, I'm just saying this is this
Speaker 1: is this, It is this right, Yeah, it's a fine
Speaker 1: white pussy before RelA buddy. You don't want to drink
Speaker 1: chance wrong, you have some fine white pussy. No man,
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm good, you know, and you said what
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so happy right now? You know what my wife.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying because years ago, of course, white business.
Speaker 1: Eight years ago, eight years ago, eighteen years ago. Excuse
Speaker 1: it's been years ago, twenty eight years ago. It was
Speaker 1: wild man. You're making all that money, yeah, did doing
Speaker 1: your things. I'm around. It's bussy, but it's some fine
Speaker 1: white pussy out there. I mean, you know people have
Speaker 1: the use, you had any preference. It's beautiful women everywhere.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, people have they preface. But
Speaker 1: you know I was I'll be just chilling, man. I
Speaker 1: ain't got to be honest. I'mn be honest. Being a
Speaker 1: loyal person, you know, a loyal guy. It's better than
Speaker 1: being let's come back. Everybody go through their things. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be let me honest. Let me look at drains, Morris, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. When I started straight up coming
Speaker 1: home every night, that's where my life changed. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1: But when I was come back gain, I was wearing
Speaker 1: pink shirts like Mr Leak. It didn't work out for me.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out for me. I was waking up
Speaker 1: and gold Rush. I was in gold rush like Future
Speaker 1: and pancakes. It didn't go together. I was sitting there.
Speaker 1: Then I got my life. I stopped wearing Salmon, he's
Speaker 1: very seminar and pink. I stopped hanging out with Shobali
Speaker 1: because he's you know, he's a jump off. I'm just
Speaker 1: doing it out there, y'alla. This is my brother. But
Speaker 1: let me just say something. You see a lot of
Speaker 1: times I think, as we're thinking, y'all smashing chicks, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stories are smashing y'all. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stories in the NBA. And that's that's everybody having fun.
Speaker 1: You cannot, you cannot. You gotta relax and take it.
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to hang out with you now
Speaker 1: that I experience, got experienced, experienced with it's so good. No,
Speaker 1: but that's real ship. So now you see this big
Speaker 1: conglomerate with the Golden State going on and Lebron. Can
Speaker 1: Lebron even survive this year? Yeah, they're gonna be. They're
Speaker 1: gonna they're trying to win in because I just went
Speaker 1: to um the Raptors. Correct. Yeah, I don't think Lebron
Speaker 1: necessarily needed kwhile Kaua. I don't really need Lebron. Lebron
Speaker 1: needs somebodyman, but it might be needed Peter Pan went
Speaker 1: to you, that's a new tool. Is that? I'm sorry
Speaker 1: because right now you know he gonna be on with
Speaker 1: Jordan's he gotta relax because Jordan and y'all thin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Tony Barker Jordan, so, um, what do you think
Speaker 1: about going on? It's gonna be on fire. The Lakers
Speaker 1: is definitely gonna make noise because Kuzma is really good
Speaker 1: and Lebron he gotta shoot. They can shoot, and they
Speaker 1: gotta they have the young guys come back. People didn't
Speaker 1: see him, You though I was Julius was there because
Speaker 1: you know I Julius. But he's gonna play well in
Speaker 1: the Orleans. But the league gonna be on fire. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Everybody stepping it up, everybody working. You
Speaker 1: see anybody online Instagram, everybody training. I was with Chris
Speaker 1: paul Um, Trevor and Harden. It was in the gym
Speaker 1: every day together. You see a last year and then
Speaker 1: the show it on the car. I didn't think they
Speaker 1: was gonna play this well. They just you be used. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was gonna be there would be
Speaker 1: a Clippers. I'm thinking that. I'm thinking they're gonna win
Speaker 1: like fifty some games, well, you know, forty nine games.
Speaker 1: I could see you at Houston right now, I can't.
Speaker 1: I would need to get motivated. Orizon got traded though
Speaker 1: he loved he did. Wow, they probably travel reasons, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went, oh yeah, yeah, he went to all you
Speaker 1: got some crushes. Well, yeah, since we're still talking, what
Speaker 1: what were you? Let's say now that you're in the
Speaker 1: Big Three? Is that that depending on the bruise and
Speaker 1: the half court? How do you like the Big Three
Speaker 1: compared to the NBA? Like your coaches, Like, who's your
Speaker 1: favorite coach? Yeah, well in the Big Three? Well, definitely
Speaker 1: in the Big three right now. Charles Oakley is my coach.
Speaker 1: I love Charles, you know, I I like Charles oak
Speaker 1: You are going in the oak keep telling you exactly
Speaker 1: what what's wrong. He ain't gonna hold no punches. But
Speaker 1: the way I need tickets. You ain't even got your tickets?
Speaker 1: Keeping got Okay, it's probably Till Jackson is definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: he's Jackson's though Lakers Lakers. It wasn't Phil Jackson the
Speaker 1: Knicks because he funked up the fire him a long
Speaker 1: time ago. I don't think man, I was hoping he
Speaker 1: went to New York, he got well, he got the
Speaker 1: last two rings in New York. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: like five years ago. But you know from the York
Speaker 1: he went home. He was the last for us. Now,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. His knees was so fucked up.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to be there. Like, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: That's the person bad knees. I know where I want
Speaker 1: to be at A person sitting east when I Nigga
Speaker 1: walked in there, I think he didn't want to be
Speaker 1: there knees, and I don't want to be here. I
Speaker 1: got funked up knees. But at least I want to
Speaker 1: be in these places that I go to. And I've
Speaker 1: seen the this is the crazy shot I've seen Phil Jackson.
Speaker 1: I'm getting breakfast and I hate breakfast. So one day
Speaker 1: I'm in the Saint Reagions. Just walk across the street.
Speaker 1: I think Phil Jackson's right up to it. Kid. You know,
Speaker 1: I walked outside. I smoked cigarettes still, so I kill
Speaker 1: us out. I went like this. I looked at this
Speaker 1: nigg and looked at me. I said, damn, I think
Speaker 1: feel might suck me up right there. Let this one
Speaker 1: go off I ain't gonna looked at him. I was there,
Speaker 1: I feel my heavy. Let me let this go, because
Speaker 1: I looked. We ain't even see nothing to each other,
Speaker 1: just looked at them. He looked at my face. He said,
Speaker 1: this is a real New York City fans. Look. He
Speaker 1: looked at me. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know you
Speaker 1: heard all those meditation stories, but Bob I needed I
Speaker 1: didn't understand these meditation stories all right, So you know
Speaker 1: he would take you in there and this is one
Speaker 1: on one of this with the team, whole squad, turning
Speaker 1: all the lights out, you know, and he um burned
Speaker 1: the stage, that's the ship, the clean the room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just meditated locking teach you how to breathe. Amazing experience.
Speaker 1: What does this called the Zin? It's called Zin? I think? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a Buddhist. You know, the last play
Speaker 1: the Championship, I think like he wrote he went out,
Speaker 1: last time out, then comes back, and I think he
Speaker 1: wrote this fight it wasn't even a game play, like
Speaker 1: we already locked in. Yeah, you know, he's an amazing coach.
Speaker 1: I don't know how did you keep it real simple?
Speaker 1: And he ain't call on no play age and you
Speaker 1: just trust each other every teen ranks? What what? What? What?
Speaker 1: You disappointed when he went to the Knicks and he
Speaker 1: couldn't Actually it was a fat check. I wasn't disappointed
Speaker 1: he got You know what I'm saying, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: at the end of your career. Nobody's getting that type
Speaker 1: of money at the end of their career. The niggas
Speaker 1: never even got up bad seat. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: as a man. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. Let me
Speaker 1: say so. Yeah, I live in Miami for twelve years,
Speaker 1: but I would never be at Miami nigger. I love
Speaker 1: these guys, but I'm never gonna be at Miami nick
Speaker 1: and they don't never set me as a Miami And
Speaker 1: guess what, it's respect. I respect that. But I go
Speaker 1: to bars where there's like New York Miami people and
Speaker 1: they just go at it. Oh really sports sports, sports, right,
Speaker 1: So I'll sit there. I don't like when Phil came. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought we was up. When when they first announced it,
Speaker 1: I was I was happy. Yeah, I'm looking at these
Speaker 1: dudes and motherfucking what's the name of what's sunny? Yes, duffies,
Speaker 1: niggas know what I'm talking about how kid you not.
Speaker 1: Every time it's a sports game, it's just New York
Speaker 1: niggas and Miami niggas. They just coming there and they
Speaker 1: had the most beat for that moment, and then she
Speaker 1: was was over to be like, all right, cool Google,
Speaker 1: this is the best fucking experience in the world. Because
Speaker 1: in New York everybody shoots each other after woids, But
Speaker 1: this is duffies. I kid you not. I love this
Speaker 1: fucking spot. And they just go there. I kid you not.
Speaker 1: They go there and it's it's half of it is
Speaker 1: Miami the heat, and then the other happens and they
Speaker 1: just they battle and whoever wins that day, they were
Speaker 1: how are you shots? And they paid for on the
Speaker 1: shots and it's cool. I had never like this is
Speaker 1: this is We're not, you know, moved out here and
Speaker 1: actually you know, like I'm done. That was one of
Speaker 1: the first spots I did that. And when I experienced that,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much because in New York, if
Speaker 1: we're battling, it's like an end be buying you a shot.
Speaker 1: I end one of us. But how different was the
Speaker 1: experience because you lived in Indiana? What is the what
Speaker 1: are the places you lived then. I mean I went
Speaker 1: to where I was. That was Chicago. First was you
Speaker 1: with Chief keeping him? Next, I used to be in
Speaker 1: the hood, though I don't Chief Keith is young, so
Speaker 1: like when I was, I would go, I always want
Speaker 1: to go to the hood. Now that I'm older, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I was doing. And Rabit Tailor and
Speaker 1: Combrini Green should have never been, but I was there
Speaker 1: A love yeah, too much. I went to Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something I didn't even know Compete Green. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I went to Competely Green because I thought
Speaker 1: good times was there. That's what it was. That's what
Speaker 1: good times. But honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I never knew good Times was the hood till I
Speaker 1: was moved outside of the hood. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: it's only us school like that. So when I went
Speaker 1: to Compete Green, I came out can you not act
Speaker 1: uncle wise? My brother? The police just came and just
Speaker 1: against the one way and one way out Combrini because
Speaker 1: I had maaged your he on. So the police thought
Speaker 1: I was the mind him. Came out the mind him.
Speaker 1: You know, they thought I was that guy. They thought
Speaker 1: I was. They thought they got it. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: this moment, let the gonna search me. The whole hood
Speaker 1: came out, I kid you, that's one I love Chicago.
Speaker 1: The whole hood came out. Was like and oh, and
Speaker 1: it was nothing but white people who was searching me.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at them niggas like, please keep going,
Speaker 1: my nigga. I'm sitting there like my nigga, I'm going down.
Speaker 1: This is before they started killing black niggas. This is
Speaker 1: this is right before. I'm that this once before and
Speaker 1: then and then they finally realized they said, oh, this
Speaker 1: is not even from me here, because they thought I
Speaker 1: was to mind them from the That's how I looked.
Speaker 1: And I looked like that town. And the police rolled
Speaker 1: up on me up like part of me said shut
Speaker 1: up because them niggas would have smoked me. Kid, you're
Speaker 1: not and so bring it back. So what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is sometimes the hood is actually a poison
Speaker 1: to us because we're so much involved in it that
Speaker 1: when we go back to it, we actually become part
Speaker 1: of what it was. Was that ever problem for you?
Speaker 1: It was? It was it was from like you know,
Speaker 1: the standpoint of sometimes in business. You know. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we just get into things and we shouldn't beginning into
Speaker 1: it right away without researching being able to execute or
Speaker 1: actually executing, or getting out the business when it's too much,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was so being I always wanted
Speaker 1: to make it into music, but I spent like millions
Speaker 1: on that. No, then I'm back. I'm not spending them
Speaker 1: all on that, you know what I'm saying. Um, Then
Speaker 1: I got you know, then I went back to school
Speaker 1: and all that I had to fix, you know, things
Speaker 1: in my life. One why as making so much money? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why would you even think of music doing It's basically
Speaker 1: just how it works when you're an athlete and you
Speaker 1: were getting a music business. Basically you're just a traveling
Speaker 1: show man. You know. Inside Shock shocked it right, but
Speaker 1: you just just back right. He's the only one that
Speaker 1: got a he got he had two plaques to I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, and he was respected and then yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to right Shock around. I'm sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one time they hired me and I tried to write
Speaker 1: Shock Run, but he was like, actually food bro. I
Speaker 1: seem to like like two weeks ago, and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie I've seen just grab my hair. Sit damn shack.
Speaker 1: You can't do this. I'm just saying when the nigga
Speaker 1: like his size, I'm like, I'm like, leave much alone.
Speaker 1: It's telling my li Nori, I can't have this picture
Speaker 1: existing or TMZ just too big. Now he does that,
Speaker 1: he does that so crazy. You've done all this in
Speaker 1: to the NBA. You see you see oh people, um
Speaker 1: do what you ever thought about like doing? Like, um,
Speaker 1: what is it? What is they ship called broadcasting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You is fantastic, But you know I kind of I
Speaker 1: kind of like a commentator comment I want to have
Speaker 1: a T shirt on and a hat, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to do a lot of things where I got.
Speaker 1: Podcasts are good, you know what I'm saying. Like sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel like I gotta always do something. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: just want to come to want to come to podcastcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, just be want to chill. You know.
Speaker 1: I like dressing up. I don't have to because honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, like wearing a suit to me is like
Speaker 1: you know, um, if you have to wear it, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like almost like oppression, Like you know,
Speaker 1: why do I have to wear a suit? I want
Speaker 1: to coach you like a hoodie. You know, what is
Speaker 1: that something you're interested in coaching? Sweatpants? I would love
Speaker 1: to something like I can coach definitely, you know, but
Speaker 1: but I got opportunity to coach, you know, so like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm having a good time, but I'm coaching
Speaker 1: a bunch of kids. I gotta add, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: doing in digital and lytics. I went back to u
Speaker 1: c l A for digital analytics and then I went
Speaker 1: back that was on Mondays at six pm, then Wednesdays
Speaker 1: with social media, and then I will travel to Vancouver
Speaker 1: to take Google analytics. You know. On Saturdays was the
Speaker 1: company was talking about earlier. Yeah, and then on Saturdays
Speaker 1: was Business Business Analytics at Concordia Irvine, JO, Orange County.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to lock in yo, because I
Speaker 1: just wasn't you know. I knew like I can get
Speaker 1: in the business. I love investing, but I gotta learn.
Speaker 1: So I had to be aggressive the hell Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to be aggressive you know, with the with
Speaker 1: the education this side, and I treated just like defense
Speaker 1: and I treated I want to know everything. I want
Speaker 1: to lock it DOWNE that this this is so beautiful, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gone, I think I had a drink and
Speaker 1: I'm so good man. Yeah, I would like to get
Speaker 1: deep in the art in the artist Foundation, but I
Speaker 1: know that's that's I don't know how that works. But
Speaker 1: I'm honestly I'm chilling, man, I'm chilling your foundation. I
Speaker 1: can tell you. I tell you when. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah whatever. Yeah, so yeah, it's um so my I
Speaker 1: guess two foundations. When I first came out the league,
Speaker 1: I was paying for people to go to school because
Speaker 1: somebody paid for me to go to school. So I
Speaker 1: paid for whoever want to go to school, I take
Speaker 1: you go to school. I ain't know nothing about taxes
Speaker 1: or five. I want to see threes. So this is
Speaker 1: just out my pocket, you know. So I was always
Speaker 1: in the charity. And finally I'm like, I wasn't getting
Speaker 1: no tax returns, you know. So I learned about that,
Speaker 1: and then I started getting tax returns and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I started Excel University and I raised like when I
Speaker 1: won the championship, raised like seven dred thousand dollars with
Speaker 1: my ring. Gave all the money to like mental health
Speaker 1: institutions and and uh and for prisons and stuff like
Speaker 1: this is me. I thought, pretty much. Yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: Like somebody somebody said, hey, I'll give you fifty dollars
Speaker 1: for the ring. I'm like, I think I could do
Speaker 1: more with the raffle, and he's like, no, nobody ever know.
Speaker 1: The biggest somebody ever got was fifty five thousand today
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'll just say two dollars a raffle.
Speaker 1: You know, you pay two dollars all dollar and puffle.
Speaker 1: I actually offer me to fifty. Yeah. I knew I
Speaker 1: was gonna make more, um, and but I made seven
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and three months. I could have made more,
Speaker 1: but I gave all the money away, you know. And
Speaker 1: my dad's doing his foundation now, you know, and um,
Speaker 1: the Artists Foundation, and I'm trying to build like universities.
Speaker 1: There are digital universities, so it's cheaper for people to
Speaker 1: uh go to school and you can still play sports
Speaker 1: still and still generate revenue and still learn, you know,
Speaker 1: because the education is so hard to access, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So hard to access, especially if you've
Speaker 1: been locked up. Why don't you get left back? You
Speaker 1: know what happens. You get left back, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: you gotta jail. You gonna get let back. You can't
Speaker 1: make you can't make up to take it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to take to take you too long
Speaker 1: and make it up, you're not And when you're hungry,
Speaker 1: you can't get educated. You're you're gonna do something stupid,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, so that was it, man, You,
Speaker 1: me and my dad our heads. I got mind. So
Speaker 1: before we leave about it, they act, Yeah, who's the
Speaker 1: hardest player? The hardest player? Man, that's tough. I mean,
Speaker 1: definitely Lebron, Kobe, and Jordan's those three standout. Definitely, even
Speaker 1: Jordan at forty. I remember the moves he would do.
Speaker 1: Jordan and Jordans they can they can't miss a Jordan's
Speaker 1: Kobe have a chance. And it's interest though we're not
Speaker 1: talking far, It's like Lebron Jordan's right there. I just
Speaker 1: feel like Jordan and Jordan was pretty amazing, you know.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so wait, wait I'm saying I'm saying because
Speaker 1: he just flost on us on us crazy. No, No,
Speaker 1: I think said I said, who the hardest players? That Jordan, Kobe.
Speaker 1: You can't just say no ship like that, just act
Speaker 1: like hold on, hold on. That's three of the topic
Speaker 1: players in the world. The difference of you, Guarden, did
Speaker 1: you have a different therapy, different methods, excuse me of
Speaker 1: guarding different players and this? Yeah, yeah, now you got Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like I wasn't as as I wasn't as athletic
Speaker 1: when you played his Jordan he was in the Wizards,
Speaker 1: he went the Wizards. Kobe he was a Lakers, Lakers
Speaker 1: against the Broad and then a little bit of Miami.
Speaker 1: But by that time you did move. Okay, good, But like,
Speaker 1: so Jordan's more efficient. Start with Jordan Wizards, more efficient.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be washed up, very strong, you know,
Speaker 1: and gut defense. And then Kobe is more like better
Speaker 1: three point shooter, more New York handle type. You know,
Speaker 1: Kobe played way differently. Jordan's just a little more um.
Speaker 1: Paul Pass talked the most trash. Paul talks all the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't really hear much from Jordan, didn't really have
Speaker 1: much from Kobe and Lebron gag. Yeah. So so Jordan did.
Speaker 1: Did Jordan talk ship to you? Not? Not really, man,
Speaker 1: because I didn't talk to when I. When I first
Speaker 1: met Jordan, I was nineteen and I was the only
Speaker 1: one that could guard Jordan in the gym, so you know, um,
Speaker 1: he loved when I came. When I would, he would call,
Speaker 1: are you coming back? Because I was the only way
Speaker 1: I pushed him. So they always asked me to come
Speaker 1: to this, to the games. Yeah, I did a I
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I was out of my position,
Speaker 1: but it was nobody. I was still the best friend
Speaker 1: of my team. So I had to go out there
Speaker 1: all right, because nobody else could go out him. You know.
Speaker 1: So I had someone had some good games. That one
Speaker 1: game I had, he had seventeen points, Like that was
Speaker 1: big for me because you know, he was out of
Speaker 1: you know what I was saying, So that's seventeen. I
Speaker 1: felt good about that, you know. And then obviously he
Speaker 1: had games where he had thirty. Yeah, every time, ever,
Speaker 1: it was ever, I'm never gonna end unless you got more.
Speaker 1: I got content. Ever anybody that you felt like, damn,
Speaker 1: I can't cover him. I never want to play against
Speaker 1: him again. There's never nobody I feel like I never
Speaker 1: want to play against. But there's people I knew I
Speaker 1: couldn't win against who like Lebron's definitely one of them,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like to Lebron where Lebron everywhere since
Speaker 1: he first came in the league. Since he first came
Speaker 1: in the league, his first game against me had Now
Speaker 1: I had go games against him, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: his first game against the best defending the league, he
Speaker 1: has twenty five and he points to Indiana. Were Indiana?
Speaker 1: He says, is this the best defender? You understand? I
Speaker 1: wish I had a gun. I ain't gonna no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was so mad. He said that, you
Speaker 1: know the game is describe me to this please during
Speaker 1: the game. So this is half time. They actually said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was heated, Like you know, this kid just can't
Speaker 1: he would bust. He wasn't bust some my ask, but
Speaker 1: he was. He's efficient. He was doing this thing, did
Speaker 1: this thing. But it was still and I had some
Speaker 1: games like I had one game I had it. He
Speaker 1: had he had no assists. So when you keep him
Speaker 1: no assistance because he was he didn't always want to shoot,
Speaker 1: so like everybody's staying there, man, and he could have
Speaker 1: had forty, but he was trying to pass, so he
Speaker 1: had no says I don't think the only time he
Speaker 1: had no assists in the game. Yeah, and Houston, but
Speaker 1: then I had, I had Sometimes sometimes I want to
Speaker 1: I want to go find that game. I want to go.
Speaker 1: You got you got anything else? Um? Can you say
Speaker 1: dream Big hip Hop? You said dream bake? Yeah? Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah? Got out to dream Big hip Hop? Yo?
Speaker 1: What's up as matter? World piece? Shout out the dream
Speaker 1: Big hip Hope? More question your shot before we get out?
Speaker 1: More question? I get one more question? Yeah? Can you
Speaker 1: can you sit down with me and have a little
Speaker 1: piece on my podcast? Yeah, Ustion, You're gonna too far now,
Speaker 1: you know what I honestly, I always want to be
Speaker 1: on Drink Champs. I ain't gonna lie to you. When
Speaker 1: I seen Drinks Champs come out and I didn't get
Speaker 1: the call from the and I was like waiting for you.
Speaker 1: I gotta get on drink And when he hit me up,
Speaker 1: my man hit me up, I'm like, hell yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to drink Chat. I was Germaine, We're supposed to
Speaker 1: go to this club right now. I said, yoah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to drink Chat. No, I'm gonna be honest. I
Speaker 1: just want you to know how important you are to
Speaker 1: the hood because a lot of people, and and and
Speaker 1: that's and that's what the art about us being the
Speaker 1: people that are supposed to be successful, and sometimes we
Speaker 1: don't know how important we are to that asset that
Speaker 1: we're attached to. And you, I'm just patting honest with you.
Speaker 1: When they think about music and think about not they
Speaker 1: think about athletics, your number one dude, queens, I don't
Speaker 1: give a fun. Whatever the fun anybody saying you have
Speaker 1: a responsibility. You have responsibility is up lift yourself and
Speaker 1: to continue to be exactly who the funk you are.
Speaker 1: But you're not obligated to that. That's what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. You're not obligated. Yeah, what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: fucking made it, supposed to do it just like I did.
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to do. But the thing is when
Speaker 1: you do what you what you're doing already, that's what
Speaker 1: makes that. It makes it difference. The reason why we're here,
Speaker 1: that's the reason why all life exists. When we're doing
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do without us being told to
Speaker 1: do we're supposed to do. And as a person, so
Speaker 1: y'all come up from the beginning. There's no one problem
Speaker 1: in that dream check we see you continue your success
Speaker 1: because I kid you not. I said it. I said
Speaker 1: it on having episode. I have it came here, No,
Speaker 1: I have it came up? No, have it came here? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: two times, but this was the last one. He came
Speaker 1: and I was like, you never seen it happen. You're right, Nori,
Speaker 1: because I've seen you and it was. It was the
Speaker 1: best thing I ever seen in life. Yeah, a strong
Speaker 1: black man trained another strong black man to be a
Speaker 1: strong black man. That was hard, Bronna, be honest, because
Speaker 1: all of us we come from the hood and none
Speaker 1: of us have a father. That's another I mean I
Speaker 1: had a father. That's why I felt like I was rich.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no money, but my father present, I
Speaker 1: felt rich. And when I seen that and I see
Speaker 1: what your that was crazy to me personally, and I
Speaker 1: have to salute. That's really saving you see me, your
Speaker 1: father was there, he felt rich. That's that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's true, It's true. That's why we do what we do.
Speaker 1: We do. We do it absolutely. Get me over there,
Speaker 1: God damn it. We'll think Somna take a drop and
Speaker 1: that's it. You're f