WEBVTT - Episode 135 w/ Metta World Peace 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.960 And his Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.440 He's Segre that's your boy in. He's a Miami hippoper 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.560 lioneer up his d J e f N. Together they 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.520 drinking up with some of the biggest players in the 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.080 most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:38.560 drunk drinks New year' z. That's for drinking champ trick up. Mother. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:50.680 Hey ain't say Okay, look guy, you walfar right now, Bro, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.120 I'm ready. I'm ready, man, I'm so excited about this interview. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:58.360 This is for my town, my town, my town. I 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:08.440 love it already. You know what keeps he hoping by 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.280 and up with d J e F and drink Chaps. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:19.240 Have you at make something now? Right now we're interviewing 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:24.399 is one of the most innovative, most prolific. Most You 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.119 think about Queen's Bridge, and you think about the athletic 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.800 side of Queen's Bridge, which a lot of people don't 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.720 understand and I don't know from the left fract, so 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.920 it might be a little bit uh favoritism because that's 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:40.520 like our cousin project. But these guys, they really compete 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.039 every day with each other. And this is one of 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.360 the brothers that I've seen I see. I saw his 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.800 father actually train them like I've really I've witnessed that. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.920 I witnessed him witnessing play against Kobe Bryant and then 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.360 they asked him and they said, yo, it's Kobe Brian 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.640 the best person you ever played against. And he said, no, Chatfield, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:07.880 I was in jail with Mike Chatfield at the time. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:14.440 It's fantastic. But if you don't understand who I'm talking 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.680 about right now, we're talking about Ron Ron Ron artests 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.480 Metal World Peace, my brother from another mother, And let's 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:28.440 make some noise for now. Let me start off with that, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.679 because in my mind, I still call you wrong if 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:36.320 I don't mean no despect, all respect, because I'm gonna 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.280 be honest. I'm gonna start the interview with this. I 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.520 thought I wasn't, but I'm gonna start the interview with it. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.560 Your father was probably the strongest person I've ever saw, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.920 no real talk. What I mean by that is I 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.720 used to go lets to sell drugs in Queensbridge, right 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.880 and and and at one point I've seen your father 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.880 every day. He was outside with you at the ball 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.000 court am I lying now, You're not lying? Every day? 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:14.480 Every every day was child abuse because it was really 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.000 raining and He'll he'll be talking talk, and I'll just 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.320 be sitting there like wow. That was one of that 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.679 made me want to be like a better fault. I'm 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.320 just being honest with you. I don't know if you 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.360 ever looked at it like that. I'm just saying, yeah, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.080 I always want to be like my pops. It's just 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.919 hard to do it. It's hard to do. That's a man. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.640 He's a man's man. I'm not he would have me 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.880 like my mom and my pops divorced that thirteen and 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.960 they separated. It was too much for the divorce dollars 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:54.440 that expensive expensive. I I ain't even dating no more. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.040 But but I told my dad when that happened. You're like, oh, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.280 what is my dad gonna do? You know? You come 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.880 come around? What what happens? Now? Every day? Every night 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.880 you were living with your mom's at that at that point, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.000 and when they separate, that was with my mom my 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 dad every night, and he would get off work and 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.440 he would come. We only had a little bit of time, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.919 so he would keep me out to two am and 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.680 we just bawling. I see him. Listen to me. Listen, listen, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.320 cause you listen. I'm from that Frac city, right, but 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.720 my Queen's Bridge side there's six blocks of Queen's Bridge, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:33.120 ninety six buildings. But I'm street if I'm a Queen guy, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:38.120 if you're gonna come, and I grew up on ten Street, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:44.360 but I'm basically you have it capone tonity. You know 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:50.240 that's so. I used to see your pops just training you. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.200 But I'm gonna be honest with you. The first time 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.880 I seen him train him, I said, this guy's going 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.719 to the NBA for Shan. Look, I'm gonna be honest. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.680 And it was normal to It was normal to Keywan, 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.680 it was normal to these things. But I'm sitting there 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.880 as a left right guy, and I'm like, you know, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.960 all we have is Vincent Smith, Vincent Smith. But y'all 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:20.279 had some talent. Dion Darrell, we had that, but it 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.799 was not not gonna lie. Your father was so determined. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.760 I'm sorry. I'm just like, you know, Dion Darrell was nice. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.520 Definitely should have been in the league. They have, they 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.359 have some these saluted your projects every single time. I 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.600 don't think we have to beat you. I don't think 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:42.839 we have to beat you. I don't know, but okay, now, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.359 uh because out of Queen's Bridge, who was the first, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.200 who was the first, uh um person to make it 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.120 as a ballplayer from Queen's Bridge, But we had um 0:05:55.160 --> 0:06:00.200 The first person we had was um Burn Fleman, that's 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:05.120 correct from my blog. Niece had a baby with Eron 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:11.320 Adam and then um Sean Green from Naas Block and 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.039 we had Red Bruin. You have Sean Green from Vernon 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.440 and nas Block, we had Red Bruin. We had it 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.240 was it was I can't em everybody and it was 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.120 so much talent. Ronnie Williams to the Celtics and it 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.360 was crazy because Me, Sewan Green and vern Fluming all 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.159 played for the Paces, all three of us time. I 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:33.880 didn't know that fast we bring it up the Paces. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:40.800 let's listen to my nigga. I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.920 I don't know where I was at in life or 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.680 what was happening in the world, but I watched the 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:53.839 news clip and I seen a coup on that and 0:06:53.960 --> 0:07:00.760 everything in Ma Boom said, I can't let that go out. YEA, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.120 thank you. I appreciate you. I'm glad somebody's with me. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.440 I was like, I seen the cup, I've seen the 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.080 cousin nah slide, I gotta go. You gotta show he 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.640 gotta show. You gotta show him that we were playing 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:20.080 on the hill. Yeah yeah, and what was it? What's 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:25.560 the guy named Jermaine? I just read that, y'all just spoke. Yeah, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.160 that true man. Yeah, because you know, I was anti 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.640 social man. I was like, I was always in survival mode, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.280 so I never really wanted to be around people, you 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.200 know what I'm saying. And it wasn't I didn't like nobody. No, 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.120 it was just that he did jump in the fight 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.160 with you. And it's amazing that he did, because like 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.720 they would go out for lunch. We get into the 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.800 city and I don't go to lunch. They go off 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.760 for dinner. I don't go to dinner. I've never been 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.000 to a lunch with Jamaine on nil just us to 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.920 until like two weeks ago, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.720 And it was just because like I wasn't after that 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.760 you told me when he wanted to stands with you. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.920 But it was it was Steven Jackson that jumped in 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.320 with you know, Steven came to the stands and jamas 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.440 handled things on the floor after you got pulled out. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:16.800 It sounds like forget Yeah, and you know, because like 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.240 I was just so competitive and I was always just 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.400 survival most so even practice, like they'll tell you I'm 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.080 going hard Like if you if you like the fifth 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.680 teen player, he's supposed to go to the hardest, I'm 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.680 going harder than you, you know. And and then like 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.160 after practice, you know, sometimes it'll be some controversy, and um, 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.000 you know, I always held one. I always held grudges. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.000 I just couldn't let it go. So the next day 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.560 I come in to practice, I'm not talking to nobody, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.400 you know, and then hold I hold it for two weeks. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.920 I just couldn't let go stuff. It took me a 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.120 while evolve, and I didn't make a lot of friends, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.760 and I don't I didn't make a lot of friends. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.880 And then when we're on the court, if you you 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.199 know you're playing against me, he definitely not gonna be 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.120 my friends because we don't. Let's describe what happened at 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.599 night though, Yeah, that night, Um, your plan is this 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:06.000 Detroit is in Detroit. In Detroit, You're in Detroit, which 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.640 is a very rough place. Yeah, Tequilla, come on, come on, man, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.280 please please, we got come on. Holp them out, give 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:18.160 them shot at you know what I mean. I need 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.800 to understand what's happening. Right, so you're out there. Did 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.360 you have me for Detroit? As an Indiana hated Detroit? Oh, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:33.959 I hated everybody like anybody. I love that because a 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.800 box to tell me that too, box to say I 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.079 hate every other box you can relay it. Yes, you 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.559 got Mike chap Hill, Johnson, Wow, and they all in 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.760 front in front of me, right and a couple of 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.600 us make it. But so in order to play against hate, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:53.520 Johnson you got. I didn't realize that come with something 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.920 and the competitive nature. It came from that. And I'm 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.840 that's the only way I can make it. I can, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.959 I can. I can never let it go, you know. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.920 And but that not in Detroit was crazy. The dude, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.760 I ran in the right direction, by the way. You 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.120 got to be pretty one point to see somebody hit 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.880 you with the time and run. Was it a cup? 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.319 It was a cup? And I spotted him right away 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.760 because I felt like it was like what it wasn't 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.040 the racial ship, it was this is what happened man. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.520 Definitely not racist. Man, dude, the dude bet when you 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.360 do raise his hand. That's why that's why I attacked 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.640 that dude. I'm like, there's no reason for anybody to 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.640 be charing looking at me. So I'm like, you definitely 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.959 hit me, So he better the guy, you know what 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.199 I mean? He definitely hit me, and he better to 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.199 do fifty dollars that he could hit me that he 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.320 couldn't hit me with a cup. So when I rang up, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.000 you see the other dude, John Green just skin me 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.679 up like, oh he was the one who hit me. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.679 It was at bet you know what I'm saying, And 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.679 nobody really knowing that. But they don't talk about that 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.080 a lot because then you know, I lost, I lost 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.719 some bread. Get out of here. I would have never 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.480 actually asked you that he wrote it up. But so 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.480 how does that happen? Your your NBA player? You let 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.559 your doing what I had to do a fair that 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.400 actually pursues you. You pursue that and then they penalize you. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.480 You know I didn't. People thought I was crazy when 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:19.839 I said, are we gonna get in trouble? Because I 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.240 went the lock of room, like you think we're gonna 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:28.400 get in trouble. But you know what I mean, Queen 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.000 brig ship and I loved it. I enjoyed it. I 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.200 was like that because you know why. I'm sorry, Bron, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.240 I'm sorry the interview, but you know why, because I'm 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.640 looking I'm like a lot of the times they think 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.920 that the NBA players are supposed to change because they 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.720 got money. But if I'm a real dude and I'm 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.280 in a real setting, don't try to put me in 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.720 some fake ship. And that's real ship, that's real ship. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.280 And they try to put you in some fake ship 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.520 and sat back and out and looked at us. Well, 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.240 you're not supposed to react to that ship. Like they 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.000 didn't change regulations. I think what happened was it's never 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.480 been done before. Everybody was shocked. You know, they had 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 something and I took Did they change anything after that though? 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.560 Like they did? Like so it was like that right 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.800 in a sense, like someone's attacking you to in a degree, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.720 you know what, absolutely, if you had an office, if 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.240 you had a show in ninety one, yeah, and somebody 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:36.160 to a drink on a problem. But but but no 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.079 one never seen the NBA player do that. That was 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.240 that was the crazy thing. And again to me, it 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:43.719 was just a fight. Honestly, to me, it was like 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.160 it was a fight. It was a problem. I had 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.080 a problem. One guy had nothing to do in the media, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.360 but nobody else. One guy hit me with a couple 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.280 of but a cup of bear. So let me ask 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.120 you pretty mad? Was he was? He saying something prior 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.439 to the game, like he just his season tickets up here? Okay, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.679 his name is John Green. That's not be cool now 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:08.280 and everything? Are you cool? Yeah? We were on your show. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.520 He's kid, I'm bringing on the show. Let's go ahead 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:17.320 this describing you know, it's awesome by the way, man, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.120 I was trying to evolve. Man, I don't want know. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.599 I'm trying to like not hold grudges. You know, my 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.079 whole brand has been crazy, Like at the point I was, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.640 I got Defensive Player of the Year before that, and 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.240 I was at eighteen. All small forwards average six points. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.720 So no, you know, on average, you wasn't getting over 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.280 six points and it was cold. You might have twenty, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:39.599 but a scrub don'tnut right. So next year I'm like, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.480 I'm sorry, I'm gonna be honest. Makes some noise the 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.160 basketball looking when he just said that, I got chills 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.439 to my body. I was like, he's I'm sorry, yeah, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.559 but that's how when I was going into the game, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.120 I'm like, I'm trying. I don't want the motherucking score, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.880 you know. And um So the next year, right before 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.079 I got to spending, I was trying to get m 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.840 v P and like, you know, something I always wanted 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.839 and I had the chance to get it, I probably 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.160 was gonna get I finished six and MVP. Yeah before that, 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.600 you know, and I got said I would have had 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.880 another defensive player the Atrophy, another Alstar game, probably would 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.880 have got the P, might have won the chip, Like 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.320 now your whole legacy is like different partners by that, 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.920 and I still might get in because I was still 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.440 one of the best defensive players that played the win. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.360 So I still don't say one of you all one 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:34.640 of them. You know, it's crazy. I gotta always promote myself. Yeah, nobody, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.960 Nobody was promoting me like NBA people like yo, I 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.480 was I used to go in. I want to get 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.840 in the Hall of Fame. Gonna be honest. You was 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.560 the only guy to stop Kobe, and then Kobe funk 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.080 with you, Like if you stopped Kobe Kobe, don't funk 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.240 with you after that. Kobe, you don't even want your 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.120 phone number, you don't want to know your children's birthday. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.080 But you stopped Kobe. And Kobe said, man, I need that, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.720 needs to stop somebody else, and he wrunged you that. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.520 That to me, that was the one of the most 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:11.400 honorable thing in basketball because because because a lot of people, 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.560 I'm gonna stick with Kobe right now and then I'm 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.760 gonna go to Bike chat Field because I know a 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.520 lot of people don't know what you said when you 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.320 meant that, but let's stick with Kope. So when he 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.280 did that, that was the most honorable thing in the 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.960 world to me because he's like, Yo, this is the 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.640 only guy who stopped me. So if he can stop me, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.920 let me bring him on my team. Did you feel 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.320 like that or not? I did? Man, I was when 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.520 I was this was happening, I was going through a 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.000 lot of that time, twenty years old. I was going 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.600 through a lot. I called my agent and I said, listen, 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.520 I wanted to go to a couple of teams. I 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:44.840 want to do what I want to do, So I 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.160 want to go to either Grease to play ball. So 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.960 I was tweet I and my prom trying to head out. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.800 I wanted to go to Greece. I have three teams 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.360 I wanted to go to, and you was on what 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.240 team is on? I was on Houston Rockets at the time. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.720 I wanted to go to Greece. Actually, if the Rocket 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.160 for a sign you I would I would have went back, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.880 but I wanted to try. You know, I don't want back. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.160 That was the only team I don't went back to 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.960 because I was there. But yeah, I said that don't happen. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.840 I want to go to Greece as the chill making 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.640 those a little for a couple of years, right, and 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.800 then um, Detroit or Indiana. So those are the three 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.200 teams I was trying to go to. So when I called, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.360 when we spoke to Detroit, Joe Dumas was the general 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.080 marriager and then they was like, nah, we we don't 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:20.920 think we want. You know, Ronald test hit because things 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.720 that happened after I thought it had been dope. I 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.280 thought it had been hard because is knowing for that 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.360 bad boy and Detroit foks with me hard. They people 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.040 are saying what they want to go in Detroit. It's 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.520 like I'm home, you know, what I'm saying, the hood, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.920 the whole Detroit is the hood. It's definitely the hood, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.840 A lot of everything. So and so I get a 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.440 call op, I'm at the s LS l A, you 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:48.760 know SLS. So I'm at the SLS. I'm with my boys, yes, sir, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.000 And I'm getting twisted. And I get a call from 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.400 and I get a call from my agent agent say, yo, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.560 the lake is one you And I'm like what you said? 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.680 They want to sign. I'm like, all right, let's do it. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.200 But you were coverd just have bet you just happy, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.440 just had beef. Because I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.879 let me subscribe. At one point, when you found Kobe, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:15.080 I seen him look at you. I don't know he 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.840 looked at you. I don't know what he said, but 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.880 he was mad. Ob it's from Philly man. I'll tell 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.920 people he might be Kobe Bryant, but he from Philly Man. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.560 But at that time, how how did y'all go from 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.360 you know, because you you gave him hell? Right, yeah, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.080 I gotta pick you up because I know you humble, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.880 but you gave him hell? And then so how would 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.880 you go from giving him hell to him actually been 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.760 like fucking I want that guy my team. You know what. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.960 We respect each other man because in practices was crazy 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.440 then Kobe, we're gonna add it. But we had to 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.840 play on the same team a lot because we had 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.280 to keep the our We had the same cohesion, you know, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.800 so we always played the same team. But when we 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.600 played against each other, it was just like the game. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.399 It was practice, probably better than the games, you know. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.840 And Kobe's here in the gym at five thirty a 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.159 and working on that jab step, just relentless, you know, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.280 and he opened a bottle of beasts, you know. And 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.879 but he We respect each other, you know. I was 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.119 one of the best defenders that he had a lot 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:18.680 of good games against me. I had some good games 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.680 against him, but he had more good games against me. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.560 You know. Um, I think I was one of the 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.119 toughest people that he had to, you know, go up against. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.359 And that right there, it's like my trophy, you know, 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.680 I don't have a lot. I don't have I should 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.440 have had maybe three or four more All Stars. Should 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.440 had maybe two more Defensive Player of the Years and 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.520 maybe two All NBA two more. I had one All 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:40.040 NBA team. But I got those type that type of 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.720 thing from Kobe's Like, that's a good trophy for me. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.359 Something Lebron said when I left the East. Lebron was like, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.760 I'm glad Ron tested on the West now, Like that's 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.520 something I can hold on to, Like I appreciate that. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.040 It's not you know, I appreciate that one of the 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.479 greatest ever. You know. So, I'm grateful for my career. Man, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.800 I ain't gonna live lost, lost a lot of bread 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.520 in the league, you know so, But it was like 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:05.880 it was cool, like I'm grateful for a lot of things. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.480 Drink Champs Army. I hope you're enjoying this episode of 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.239 Drink Champs. Make sure to stream, buy, and check out 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.120 Nori's new album five E. 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Definitely let 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:31.280 me just tell you something, man, your inspiration uh uh 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.520 to every kid from Queen's Bridge me as a person 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.760 that's related to Queen's Bridge, I'm a cousin of Queen's Bridge, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.520 like maybe even a brother, maybe even like I'm a stepbrother. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.360 Like you know, we don't got the same mother and father, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.240 but our families related to all of us, right, So 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.200 I just want you to know that you are. So 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.679 when when you got to the league, bro, I cann't 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.399 I've seen Queensbridge that day, like you know, the draft 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.440 draft and you had to draft. But I'm on twelve 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:10.040 st and you when you get drafted, and I don't 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.440 think I ever looked at the TV. I just looked 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.440 at everybody else who's happy for you to go to 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.000 the actual league. And I looked and I was like, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.520 this is this is life. I actually brought a lot 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.480 of people from the hood that day. He was burning 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:26.800 it down. We had a lot, We had a great time. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:33.400 We had a great time. That day was the day 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:38.880 that I realized every hood in the world, they don't hate. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:44.439 They want to see the people prosper. The hating process 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:48.800 comes when you don't do what they expect you to do, 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.760 and that's when the people start to hate you. But 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.200 you I'm not gonna lie. Like I said earlier, your 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.600 father was one of the most brilliant people I ever seen. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.720 Like I would go to Queensbridge because, um, you know 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:11.360 in left rack our Nickels just nickels a cracker, Okay 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.720 was this? But I could go to Queensbridge and I 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.680 can buy a dome and this ship it's like twenties 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.200 of ours. So I was I still love just being 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:28.720 in queens gold Mine. But they didn't look at it 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.840 like that because they just was you know, this is 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.879 their hood. So I'm looking at ever I'm like, oh 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.240 my god. So they didn't understand that. But it was 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.000 one day I was it was raining or maybe he 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.520 was snowing, and I was just in front of forty 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:49.240 one dash twelve twelve street and I just kept hearing 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:54.080 the ball bouncing something and I want to look, and 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:59.000 it was his pops just passing the ball. And I 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:04.800 looked at us that I was like, and I said, 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:10.600 because it's gonna be rich, because he's gonna endure that. 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.320 And I knew that's what your pops was doing. I'll 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.160 kid you not. I never even told you this story. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.159 Like I actually just watched this story and I was 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.520 just like, I mean, I watched not the stories to 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.480 give me, I watched the actual scene and I looked 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.600 and I was just like, wow, it's the age difference though, 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.200 that you would see him as a kid. Well I'm 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:34.640 I'm I'm forty one, but when you're younger. And I'm 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.480 just looking because his father was one of the strongest 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.879 black men I've ever met. I'm just being honest, like 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.040 strong he was. He was a good boy, but he 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:53.440 like he making sure likes good nor you know, I 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:58.399 know what your nigs did last night. Like like, I 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.760 loved that he was one. He was he was a 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.920 father figure for me. He was bad, crazy man, say 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.200 good dad, but he got it. I got this dude. 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.800 If he saw somebody getting beat up, like he steps 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:15.600 in the middle of the I'm like, he jumping in finished. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.520 You know, I see him saved people lives, you know, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.480 but he was definitely definitely go people. It was like, 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.239 but you know, it's crazy when I when I made 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:26.959 it to the NBA, I wanted to be like nas 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.320 seeing it. Mom. D you know, I always you know, 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.600 because your phone not like my third cousin, so we all. 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:39.040 I always tell people folk, that's my family. Let me 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:40.560 bring it down. Let me bring it down for people 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.879 who don't who's never been a Queen's bridge, right, because 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.600 you're gonna bring it down like a queen's bridge guy, 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.040 So let me bring that for people who have never 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.200 been a Queen's bridge. If you walk on Toll Street 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.720 from the Knight Street Bridge, when you walk on the 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:58.200 left side, all right, you from tom Nity, did you 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.080 bump into h capone and then you bump me to 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.800 Ron or Ron Spars, Ron Brother because they all stars, right, 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:12.080 and then you bump into havoc. This is it, and 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.359 even bumping you when you come out there, because I 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.240 will be out there. I love twelve Street. Listen, listen. 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.720 I can say that, did you anywhere? From hold on time? 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.320 We just had this conversation where you said, New York people, 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.440 your motherfucker's too crazy. You want to break down the block. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.320 You're gonna break down the street. I want to do that. Now. 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.560 If I was to say I have half my ties 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.520 from Queensbridge, guess what I would say. I would say, yeah, 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.359 gotta have my ties from queenris to say, well, well, 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.880 part of Queensbridge, I would say, boom, I would say 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.800 the I would say that side. You say, well, what 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.400 side of that side? I would say twelve Street, Well, 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:57.840 twelve Street is where I rap because of that. But 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.760 I think this man, I have to who And I'm 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.680 so proud of your brother. I don't know if I 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.560 ever told you that, but I want to say it again. 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.080 I want to reiterate how proud of you. But you 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:14.359 don't know how inspiring you was to me. You in you. 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.840 We'll get to that later. But I used to see 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.560 his father training and I want. It inspired me to 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.920 be a better father, inspired me to, um, I want 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.560 to be a better father, wanted me, wanted like you know, 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:31.399 I sit down, But your father out to be the 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.440 realest thing in Queen's Bridge to me, to me, people 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.040 people messing my father and queens because he just he 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.320 went to work, you know, and he came home and 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.440 that was it. And he was working hard. He lost 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.800 his city job because he was u putting too much 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.960 overtime on his check. So that killed us when that happened, 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.159 you know, and then they separated. That that killed us 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.359 because he can't work for the city no more, you 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.280 know what I mean. And but yeah, other than that, 0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.879 like he tried his hardest man, and he out there 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.960 right now. I just left New York, you know, and 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.440 he's out there working with the kids, you know, with 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.080 more kids before it just me, you know, and he's 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.680 working with all the kids. God bless your past in 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.240 your name, Like it's even ron artest, it's it's the 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.639 artest foundation, you know. But he did it. It's his 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.240 you know, his Uh what is the five ones? He three? 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:24.000 I'm probably them you're hoping to kids. So now, um, 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:25.840 I just want to tell you a story real quick. 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:32.080 I mean Jamaica one time, right, so as i'making no Jamaica, 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.240 the country Jamaica right. So I'm in Jamaica right, and 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.800 I'm walking through the ship and one twelve is just 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.880 they're playing basketball. So I'm like, stories, I actually see 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.760 you talking to them about it. I'm like, your want twelve? 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:53.520 Give me the basketball left, Franck, Yeah, I got the ball. 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.320 I'm like, well, I got on Slipperts. So one twelve 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:02.760 actually kind of group wont kind of actually crack me, right, 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.520 So I take the ball and I kicked that ship 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:12.880 so far so recently recently? Why said the Big three 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:17.480 and you just kicked the y'all? Yeah, I had I 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.040 had to do it. You know why I did it? 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:26.800 Ship absolutely absolutely tells what happened. But for one like, 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.960 they don't they don't know the rules yet, so you 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.199 can get away with kicking the ball because nobody ever 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:37.560 kicked the ball before they're out. I just wanted to 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.360 get getting out the way real quick. And then uh, 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.560 and then the game is too rough, man, the game 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.920 is rough. I'm like, I'm I'm thirty eight, you know, 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.959 and um, I don't want to play rough. No, more. 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.320 May I gotta clean this game up. So I said, 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:53.960 you know, for being rough. So they start with you 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.160 rough first and were in Detroit. So I'm like, I'm 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.640 not I'm not about I'm not about stop the ball. 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.640 You kicked this, I can get out. I was trying 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.880 to out of the game. It was too impressive. Man 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.440 out hearingson this what happened out hearingson push Pusteve Jackson 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.320 out of bound and the resting called foul. So I'm 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.680 not like, I'm not about to be a part of this. 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:20.000 I'm out there, get me get that ball. Reten ejected, No, 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.560 no problem, out of here ejected, you know, and I 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.680 and my boy out haringson. You know, he was on 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.280 top of the team. That's my man. I'm not about 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.560 the beginning of the scuff for my man on the court. 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.720 I'm out there. So but but the league is dope. 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.040 You know, um he's playing tomorrow. Correct play them all? 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:48.120 Ice Cube, yeah kill so so to subscribe this to us, 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.840 how how did you even make this there? Like ice 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.280 Cube called you? Yeah, like so last year I was 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.160 gonna play and I'm on the Big three, the Big three, 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.120 but I was working on I got a digital marketing company. 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:09.040 So it's like all my time, Yeah did you markt 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:14.440 and but you know so it's taken up all my time. 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.200 So I come and play. But when I've heard I 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.440 s C on TV talking about we need Kobe, we 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.440 need Lebron, I'm like, you don't really want me like 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.680 so I said, I'm not even gonna play. But he 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.920 hit me up personally. Wow, when he hit me a 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:34.360 person I'm like, yeah, I'm gone because I was personally like, 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.160 ye would like for you to play blah blah blah. 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.760 I said, no doubt because how did he have anversation 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.280 go down? Did he say, look at this ice cube? 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:48.480 But today, I cup is super professional. Though I cupe reading. 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.520 He paid me for a verse, but I want to 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.120 hit your story. Yeah, I just cave a superfessional vision 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.400 right now. He's a hell of a general manager. He said, 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.440 I'm gonna be honest. I'm sorry sorry to cut you. Yeah, 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.800 please make sure that I'll get back to what we 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.120 were saying. Yeah, but the nigga still rolls in the limo. 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:13.520 Let's respect this nigger. No, the nigga and online when 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:20.880 he came to our joy, he gave me at people 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.520 I said, you know, I was downstair, Yeah, just waiting 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:34.120 for the Limo said there was Lego for the may 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:39.040 back something. I coo, I get it, and I said, 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:44.920 this nigga cute isn't time. He's killing no that, but 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.160 he gets a lot of money. But he spent a 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.880 lot of his own money last year. But he gonna 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.160 make that money back because you know this. You know 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.840 when you saw the business, you always gonna be in 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.640 the red and he about to be in the blacks 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.680 with that big three people liking huh so he so 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.560 he called you and then he called me and was like, hey, um, 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.360 I want you to play. I said, no doubt. And 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:08.880 then he was like, can you go back to artests? 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:10.040 I think it would be cool. I was like, yeah, 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.240 no problem, I'll go back to artists. But then my 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.520 people called him and said, why are you trying to 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.680 exploit the metal world. He's I'm like, he just this 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.760 is cute. He wanted Artests's gonna get artests, but but 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.719 we wasn't gonna do that. I wanted it, but then 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:23.960 my partner was like, don't do it. I said, I 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.040 or whatever or Cube was great. He everybody's on group 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.160 chat so here a group chat us, the rules group 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.560 chat us. Like any problems every team got there on 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.840 a group chat. You could talk to him, you know, 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.080 and get you can input, get input. He's a better 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:42.840 like David Stern Like, uh, you know David Stern Man, yeah, oh, 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.880 but he he's going to be a hell of a 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:49.920 gymer manager. And maybe the NBA might buy it. Why 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.960 I would How would that look though? As a business boss, 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:55.920 just when you're when your players are done, just go 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:57.920 to the Big three and you have you have, you 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:03.120 have a bigger audience. But sometimes your bands don't gotta 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.000 be done. Maybe this is somebody who's come from like 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.680 you know, high school or college, and then they don't 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.240 want to Maybe you don't want to play in the NBA, 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:16.120 so maybe you want to smoke. That's question. Because we 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.800 had Matt Barns on here. We had Matt balls on here, 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.280 and I passed Matt bonds and blunt down, burn it down, 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:29.680 down down. He burned it down. And then but see 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:31.640 I didn't want him to snitch on other people, and 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:33.720 he didn't want to sneak on other people. So I said, 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.400 do people burn in the NBA? He said, you listen 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.200 to every day I was in the NBA. We burned 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.600 it down. But I said, I said, don't don't y'all 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.880 the y'alls, the y'alls, you know what I mean, Because 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.520 if we can't have that, because some of these people 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.120 still getting money, and why is it in the NBA 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:57.520 that Uh there's people who Colorado, Denver where this is legal, 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:03.320 right Los Angeles, but they say that even if you 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.600 played for the Lakers, you can't have the same. Yeah, 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:13.359 why would the Lakers. The NBA operates by federal it's 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.960 a national league. The federal thing. Fer you're talking about 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.440 states never knew that hold on you you hit me 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.600 on you hit me on the whatever. The federal coming. 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:29.279 The whole cluntry needs to make it. The NBA and 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.920 the NBA still might not make it legal even if 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.439 it because it's like so many people went to jail 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.800 for marijuana back in the day. Cops can be putting 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.600 down to marijuana. That's why. That's why they don't want 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.600 to make it legal, because they're gonna have to retract 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.600 all that crazy ship they've been doing. It's not right. 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.640 I think it's good. You know, you know, I burned 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.000 it down. A lot of the other days. I ain't 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:54.920 got a lot to you every day, you know, and 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.279 you know you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be running for 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.040 your life for smoking a blunt. Definitely not, you know 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.680 what I'm saying. So I'm for ice Cube pioneered there. 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.480 And on the flip side, if you're playing the game, 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.719 shouldn't be smoking weed before the game? Good? You know, 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.520 you're an adult. Whatever you're playing in the NBA, don't 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.160 smoke weed before the game. Get it out your system, 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.080 you know, and do it in moderation, you know. But 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.120 you shouldn't be like worried about your life for smoking 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.080 some weed. It's good, by the way, to what kind 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.480 of this is? This is Gorilla trying to gorilla. 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Yeah, and then different think about it, Lamar. 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.319 There's a lot of things that go on with Lamar, 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:58.480 old him like my good friend, his mom. But at 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.880 one what you said it was the cars. We were 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.440 not said with the Kardashians because he was on his deathbed. 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.360 I'm being honest, but you were the first thing that 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.080 said the Kardashian is the downfall to every black man man. 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:17.800 You mean it like, yeah, I like that. I don't know, 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.800 I don't like that. I just say, i't me like that. 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.439 But before that happened with you said that. Everybody rides 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.880 with you. Now, but everybody says the same thing that 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:31.600 if you go to the Kardashians, your blackness leaves. No. 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.200 I mean, people say, people say, people say, there's a 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.120 lot of coincidences going down. It's the thing easy to 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:42.120 say that, so like no, but you know, so with Lamar, 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.520 before that happened with Lamar, I was I was talking 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.319 to um Chris a lot, text me bad. We talk 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:54.000 um the Chris guy that was from whom Christian Christian, 0:39:54.360 --> 0:40:00.239 the lady okay bid the god. The basketball players, Um, 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:05.600 I forget his name. Everybody does, but you know, but 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.719 one of them was on his deathbed, you know what 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.480 I'm saying. I was like, I panicked. I blamed everybody, 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:12.560 and I said, you know, and I said something that 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.840 shouldn't say because Chloe had Chloe held them all down, Like, 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.360 but what did you exactly say? I was just like 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.160 the Kardashian is messing my boy up? Basically I said that, 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.359 But it was it wasn't quite accurate, you know, because 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.000 Chloe was in the hospital every day. Chloe was talking 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.000 to me also making sure I see them all, you know, 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.839 so shout out to Chloe and then but but let's 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.360 let's clarify that statement. Why did you even make that? 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.480 How did you feel like that? I felt I felt like, 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:44.160 um stress, I feel it's too much pressure. When you 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.400 went to the Kardashians. It's a you know, you're in 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.520 a network basically, and everything is live and you always 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.239 gotta be on your A game. And I feel like 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.759 it was too much pressure for my boy, you know. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.719 So you're coming from Queen's. He he out there and 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.279 every time he come outside, it's a camera in his face. 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.920 It is. But it wasn't their fault. His dad, Lama's 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.040 dad was Lama's his mom and dad was like on drugs, 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.239 which is his dad. And he spoke about that. Yeah, 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:09.640 I see where he came from the stuff he was 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.279 doing with stuff that he's seen. People are thinking Lama 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.799 were crazy, but Lamar and his best friend passed away. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.239 But what made you, I'm sorry, what made you change 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.080 your mind? Though? The reason I changed your mind when 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.080 I spoke to Chloe Wait, she called you after that. 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:23.480 I was trying to get to them, and it was 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.880 hard to get to him. Everybody trying to get to 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.960 the law and see how you're doing. Chloe was the 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.920 only way you can get in, and she answered the 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:35.839 phone personally, everybody, I'm her phone phone, Okay, you called them? 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.680 And then I'm like, yo, can I see Lama? And 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.680 she's making sure we're good. Cloe's a clothe's a real check. 0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.919 And you know what you say. She said, she's making 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.800 sure we're good, making sure we're good, making sure we 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.839 getting in, making sure the doctor's lett us. See lamar, 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.560 you know not a lot a lot of people you said, 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:56.879 just say this is after I said what I said. Yeah, yeah, 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.200 I didn't say nothing that bad, but you know, you 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.000 know what I mean. Let me something I just picked up. 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.560 Um uh, Kim Kardash. A lot of people went over. 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.719 A lot of people has because a lot of people 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.839 they criticize these women for getting plastic surge or whatever 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.320 the fun they do. Gives a fun. I like this 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.200 one because they black niggas. I don't expect that. I 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.480 expect that, so I'm not gonna I'm gonna pick it 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.800 up whatever the fuck they're doing, right. I locked the 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.279 away that Kim freed the black lady. I don't even 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.640 notice lady lame, but she helped free the nigger. She 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.640 went and met with Trump and she freed the nigger. 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:49.399 The check excuse me and motherfucking college that she held 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.879 them all down, and we didn't we didn't we didn't 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.919 know that. We didn't know that a lot of people 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.799 don't know that. You know, a lot of people don't 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:02.000 know that. And Chloe and they met at my party. Met. 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:07.120 I was they you can't say that just like that. 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:11.120 They met at my party, So like what happened? I 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:15.560 didn't set it up the marriage. Lets yeah, I was 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:16.960 coming to l A and then I had a party. 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.480 And then my mament was like, yo, you should get 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.120 because Chode was hosting parties at that time. She was, 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:25.040 you know, building her us her brain, so she hosts 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.160 the party with me and Chloe. And then Lamar came 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.239 to the partyment, you know, my dude, what up? And 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.799 then I was saying with Chloe for a little bit 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:33.919 in the same self, thank you for coming to my party. 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.560 I really appreciate you. She brought a lot of people out, 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.520 and I went back to my table in the Lamar 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:40.680 and they hooked up right there. Seven days later we 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:44.279 was at a wedding. Crazy seven days later he was 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:51.239 at a way. I'm like, yo, my dude, really people quick, queens, 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.080 you can't say that. You can't talk like so you're 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.200 telling me I had no idea. I've never heard of this. 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.399 So you're saying they met at your party. Seven days 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.000 later they was getting married. Seven days later. They got 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:08.880 married seven days Oh, I've never heard of. It was 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.920 at the wedding and you have the wedding and what 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.520 you're saying to yourself, Wow, wedding was amazing. That a 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:20.719 nice house, It's amazing. I was like, you got your 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:27.040 prenum right? You're good? Are you asked them that in there? 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:34.279 Because exactly lit at that time, that's the way is 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:38.399 already good. Kid, But that's the that's genocide is good too. 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:46.800 Jenide is good? Who's genocide? Gender good? But you know, 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.360 Chloe is not on her own now, she's on She 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.640 did what she wants. Now now the whole family is 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.560 good right now? Like the whole family? Yeah, Now, would 0:44:55.560 --> 0:45:00.239 you ever do something like that, like like, hey, Letna 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.520 tall you something honestly about fall in love or data celebrity? 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.160 Like what do you think? What do you think the celebrity? 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.320 I don't don't know right now. My girl is amazing 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.439 right now. But no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:15.600 let's celebrity because I just didn't want to be in 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.839 the paper. Then I gotta be holy and I gotta 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.000 be taking picture. I want to dress regular. I don't 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.920 want to be on that ship. I never dated celebrity 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.200 in my life. Yeah, I can't do that ship. Yeah, 0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:33.279 but it's all only gets female celebrities. Right. I had 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.600 my chances. I had some real what do you call it, 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:48.799 um flattering opportunities, But I ain't take advantage of left. 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:58.759 So but but so now go through the league. Do 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:03.920 what you gotta do. Played against Kobe Bryant, have your 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:08.480 plays Jordan's. I played against Jordan's. Who I played against 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.440 Jordan's Jordan was nice at thirty eight. I played against um. 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.120 He wasn't he wanted on the Wizards. I played in 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.120 Jordan on the Wizards. He was on the Wizards and 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:22.040 he was killing. He had year on that day that yeah, 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.520 he has twenty five. Came back that year, the whole year, 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.520 telling your queen story with Jordan. Please just go serena 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.000 summertime playing that hoops, Jim are Kelly's summertime Jim and 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.560 be a lot of NBA players. It was no kids there, correct, 0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.200 you know what? So but Lebron James is a fifteen 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.200 year old Lebron James playing with me, Michael Finley, Jerry 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.640 Stackhouse and so local Ob all in like in I prown, 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.560 they ain't they brown, I'm young, I'm bron James is 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:05.400 there and um so Jordan's killing everybody, you know. And 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:09.440 then one game I break jordan Riz by mistake. Right, 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.960 it wasn't on purpose, but by mistake. He was going hard. 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.359 Jordan is crazy to get your get off his chest, 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:23.560 Get off your chest? Said it mad, No, like, yeah, 0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:32.960 I broke Jordan's Ristand did you break by mistake? Bro? 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:37.120 You my dat street as well? In my mind, how 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.520 did you break his rams stake? So that's what happened. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.279 When you when you let Jordan at the ball, you're 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.360 as a rap. You know, it's a rap. So my 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:46.560 mind cannot let him get the ball. He killing us, 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.040 So I'm trying to deny. He kept holding me back. 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:50.960 I'm like, I'm not gonna let you keep denying because 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:54.480 I'm losing every single game. So I try to move 0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:55.920 it all out the way not to die. And so 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:59.200 the is referees and pick up ball. So they call 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.640 offensive felon Jordan's and then I see Jordan's like this 0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.560 when when I moved this on my elbowed them in 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:08.160 the ribs. He hold his ribs like this right now. 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.320 They called offensive l He's like this rev Co offense. 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:16.840 He pissed right, So we come back down all the 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.520 way we score, we keep he come back down. He 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.560 got the ball like this. I think I think it's 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:25.640 about six six, game seven, we don't line. Jordan Jumper 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.880 hit the game winner with the rim broken. We literally broken. 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:37.719 Rib I found out that turn you by mistake. I 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:49.759 love Jordan. I love that. I'm not gonna lie. I'm 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.160 gonna be honest with you. Wrong, God, you wrong, right, Please, 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:57.480 I'm sorry. So everybody call me rhyme, give my mind. 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:02.080 People don't kids one piece, but I'm gonna be honest 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.640 with you. You made the hood proud and you're still 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:07.880 making the hood proud. Just in case you don't know that, 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.560 every little kid uh in Queen's Bride, on twelve Street, 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:16.000 on Vernon, on Thames Street, on the Hill, on the Reese, 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:21.200 um uh in those places wherever they at, they look 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.839 and they look at you and they say, if wrong 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.520 could do it, we can do it because how you 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.200 did it and how you staying a lot of people 0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:33.000 change after they make it. You've made it and you 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.040 stayed the same. And I just want you to know 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.080 that people appreciate that, and I'm one of the people 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:48.480 to appreciate and you gotta be saluted for that. So 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.360 I got a story for you. Okay, let's story for you. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:50:01.600 When he shot the police. Let's because I to go anyway. 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.799 You you recall while he I asked Poine, I say, 0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:06.759 can I talk about this because I didn't want I 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.160 don't know defamation or whatever it's called. You know, it's 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:14.040 it's done. Anyone to think of the jail, yeah, I 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.320 asked him. So, I'm a little nigger on the block, 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:21.440 coming home from somewhere. It's dark, and I see Poem running. 0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.279 Everybody outside. You know, he used to be popping in 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.640 the hood. It's still still popping and now like it 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.920 used to be off like I used to be, so 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:34.960 put everybody outside pop outside. I see Poem running, I know, 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:36.880 and I'm like, I knew it was him. I know 0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.080 it's running. Played with Poem and I was young. Poone 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.440 had sixty three and olsar game. I'm not gonna lie 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.040 is the left handed nigga. He's kind of licening ball nice. 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.759 It's kind of I seen him giving nigga sixty and 0:50:50.000 --> 0:51:00.000 again if she was nice, I was on his team. 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.960 You know, you know, I was doing journey work. But 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.920 he um, yeah, I'm pung with the left. I'm so 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.680 I'm a young again. I'm like, I've never experienced this 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.960 type of she I'm like, all right, what happens? Now? 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.600 Did he go to jail? Like and they're like yeah, 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:17.680 then bommy, she was crazy and I was wondering, where 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.399 where were you at? Like what happened? I was y'all 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.799 was doing. That's how he was like, that's how y'all met. Yeah, 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:27.720 after he shot from that from there, Okay, I always 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.239 wanted to hear that stiff. We met from there and 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:35.719 then I came home. Yeah, I was block too real ship, yeah, 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:43.279 because what happened was Poem, Me and Poem was like 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.439 best friends in jail, right, But a lot of people 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:50.880 don't know is you're gonna see a board and Poems 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.440 seem the board, and me and Poems set the board together. 0:51:55.880 --> 0:52:01.839 He got paroled and so you love your You're like, man, 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:12.840 you go home fantastic, but in your mind, you so 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:17.080 that's what happened. So what happened was Poem was so happy, 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.399 Like we didn't exchange numbers or nothing. So we were 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:27.640 two years together straight, but he said, but in my mind, 0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:30.840 I'm like, nigga should wait like another two or three months. 0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.319 I didn't say that soon, but in my mind that's 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.400 what I thought. So when you come home, I don't know. 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.200 I just go to Queensbridge, l J. I don't know 0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:45.239 if you remember LJ. It depends LJ from compone is 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:50.600 building the lobby, all um. I think Fuji something to 0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:55.719 do with foodie. So well, l J. When I came home, 0:52:56.239 --> 0:53:04.359 l J, I went to I, Yeah, yeah, you chased 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:12.919 out of man Puerto Ricans, Yeahicans, Domericans, Dominicans. I'm Latino good. 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.120 You know you know what? I because my because my 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:22.279 brother Wally. What then Wally, Wally had beef. I looked 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.600 like Wally at that age, we look the same. And 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.400 they chased me out to school. I had, I'll fight 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:31.560 you like I'm fighting like a bunch of motherfucker's. Then 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:33.000 I go back to the principle if I'm like these 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.600 motherfucker's trying to fight me, because like, all right, school's over, 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.319 I ain't going home right now. I'm waiting the five. 0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:40.000 I'll wait till five o'clock. I never go back doing 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:45.600 five again. I'm not gonna lie seven second. Goddamn it, 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:49.719 this is man. I'mnna be honest. That's when I knew 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:55.560 I was, you know, privilege. Oh yeah, at the school 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.759 they go we are and I'm like, oh ship and 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:12.239 in the latinos like okay, good. Yeah, that's what I knew. 0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:18.520 I said, I got a little bit of leg work 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.000 over there in wood Side, a little this world. So, 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:22.840 so did you go to Tour four as well? I 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.800 went to Tour four after one. I was waiting to 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:27.160 go to school. I was out of school. I wasn't 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.839 trying to go backing, you know, and I was trying 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.480 to play ball at once, so you know, I was 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.680 Then I waited went to to A four Wow, and 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.520 then um, somebody discovered me and gave me a scholarship 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:41.879 to high school. Was Catholic school. I was like, okay, cool, 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:48.560 tell the South Academy, Oh, South Academy. Okay, dream Chat sports, 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:51.120 You're ready, Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready. What's going on? Man? 0:54:51.160 --> 0:55:00.399 My name is Paul myself. Whenever this drink chat, you're yeah, 0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.400 what are you doing? We're doing? Come over here, man, No, no, no, 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:07.600 come here man, the cigarettes come over here, come over here. Listen. 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.400 I'm sorry to stop the podcast in the middle, but 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:14.400 this middle a lot of people. I'm sorry, it's not 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.840 a lot of people who deserve to be here. But 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:21.920 this is my brother. He just came home. How about 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:24.080 to say to say, I don't know how many years 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.120 have been locked up because they locked up since I 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:29.480 was eight. I'm gonna be honest one the I love 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:35.239 you big, everybody. And he might have been seven when 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:39.799 I got locked up, though, I said eight. O bay, 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:46.759 But man again, stay at home. We got a position, man, 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.440 But go ahead. I'm sorry. Like I said, you can 0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.560 get on it too. This is my podcast, Dream Big, 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.480 Hip Hop Big. I'm shouting out. You know. My my 0:55:56.600 --> 0:56:00.200 angle is being the athletes and entrepreneurs and the good 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.520 stories in the bad story. So you're saying right on, 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.960 right on time. What I like to say is like, 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:07.960 as far as your dream Big moment, nor re Donet 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.080 spoke on it and ready your father bringing you into that, 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.960 I'm beyond personally that's hard. Nobody, nobody can take that 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:17.759 away from you or can imitate that. So when when 0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:19.680 did you know, like you just been saying, you was 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.239 getting chased out the I But was you six nine, 0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.960 getting tased. I was young. I was, I was, I was, 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.520 I was. I was six maybe six ft maybe six one, 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:32.839 and yeah, well I probably wasn't six one at that time. 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.479 And you always knew that you was, You was ready. 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:37.520 Your pop was setting the stage for you knew you 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:39.680 was gonna take absolutely not. I ain't know I was 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.120 going to leave. I was in tenth grade. I was 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:44.759 like I might have a shot. At that point. In 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.560 tenth grade, you knew you was going to let's say this, 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:50.200 and I gotta take a piss. I'm there with you too. 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:55.360 It was them training kid. You know, I don't. I 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:58.359 don't know what age you were, but I walked through. 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:04.040 And now, let's due to calculations, right, because my first 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:08.279 album came out in which means that I had to 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.520 kind of record it in ninety six, right in order 0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.239 because this is so, this is what I'm trying to say. 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:20.440 So let's just say nineties six probably right, because it's 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.520 gonna have been the beginning of and the minute I've 0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:27.080 seen how his father, because his father like he really 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.720 cared about you. He wasn't. He wasn't. It wasn't like 0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:38.000 it makes sense, but it was like rain down rain 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.000 actually rain came down, and I was like, oh, but 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.120 kill him because I knew Queen's was scared of rain. 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:56.520 Remember the rain had the Columbia joins nine multiple choices 0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:01.160 the Columbian joint. But I looked and I said, you 0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:05.320 some creek got race kids and then niggas. They would 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.760 leave when the rain came, and I was like, oh no, 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.760 we don't do that and left. Frack. We got were 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.680 standing from the stop one and we still sound but 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.840 we we but the bridge didn't know that at the 0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:23.400 time a ship and at that time the only time 0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.439 that was your He was throwing the board the chest 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:29.400 and he was I can't remember what he was, the 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.400 real Denzel Washington from he said that he says that 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:37.720 he says that he said something, let's do a movie 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:43.240 like I'm gonna be honest now, I'm gonna be honest 0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:47.160 with you. I got I'm agreeing with it because I 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:51.160 saw it now, because I'm front of forty one dash um. 0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:55.360 This was building and it's only a little thing that 0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:58.240 covers you a little, the little thing that when you 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.040 walk in front of the something I'm in front of it. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.840 Then I'm like, they don't want to come outside. I'm good. 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:07.800 I got damn dime because I you know, I go. 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:10.360 I did the whole cell from here, so I'm like, 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:14.480 now they whole cell to listen. I'm going, wait, greaight, 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:18.160 too far you go. I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:25.120 and I'm Herrick, so I'm thinking, is this came? And 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:29.600 I looked it was you and that was one of 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:30.960 the only times we had a chance to have it 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:34.400 to ourselves too. So we love the rain. You know 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.160 you did I tell you this story? I said, yo, listen. 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:45.440 At first, I said yo. At first, I was like, yo, 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.400 this is crazy. But then when I herald us Pop 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:57.920 speak Godless, immediately that man he came over to us. 0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.160 He said something the component because it was like some 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.720 Kenney Do. I think Kenny Doo had came over right there, 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:06.800 Kenny Do. It was poem Pops obviously, and yep, they 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.680 just said something. And I'm just sitting there. I'm on 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:11.680 the left. I got nobody knows who the funk I am. 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:17.920 I'm just there. I'm just there and looked and I 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:23.240 realized how discipline you were because I wasn't like fuck 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.520 you like and you were just like you looked and 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:28.920 I could tell every pass that you've caught. You was like, 1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:35.080 but you didn't say it. You were just like I 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:38.120 looked at you, and I was like, there's no way, 1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:42.000 there's no way that man is not gonna make it 1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:46.160 fall my mind. And and and for sure you did 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:53.880 exactly a lot of kid. You not my son, my son, 1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:58.760 because I said, Yo, sorry, I know you met a 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:03.240 world person. Piece excuse me, and he said, my son, egogle, 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:07.640 every basketball player in the world. He said, I'm just 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:16.880 gonna fight. I said, what, but that's up. So I'm like, what, 1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:25.200 I know him before anybody. I guess. As fame goes, 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:30.640 sun goes, then my oldest son right there, my oldest 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.919 not seen what's up? He goes, Yeah, I know, mm hmm. 1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:38.280 But that's real, ship man, Like you know, for me 1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:41.600 to see your success, for me to see you, you know, 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:43.960 that makes me a better person. It makes me a 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:47.360 better individual, makes me a better person. That think wise 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:52.920 because it knows that me you compone nas having. We 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:57.200 gotta keep spreading that from our town, our places. You 1:01:57.280 --> 1:02:00.600 can be bigger than even us. I mean, y'all when 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:02.400 y'all was doing y'all thing, I wanted to be just 1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:04.160 like y'all, I ain't a lie, you know. And I 1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:06.600 always brought that because it's like it was the only 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:11.440 reference point I had. It was all did cnn nas. 1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:15.400 It was a bunch of others too. Screwball I did 1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:18.120 because of these guys like, yeah, well actually everybody wrap, 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:21.960 but you dropped. I don't know you recorded a screwballs 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:27.040 my brother in law, screw boys, you know, and yeah 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:28.800 it was crazy, but yeah, but you know, it was 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:31.000 just like it was just inspiring. And when when I 1:02:31.080 --> 1:02:32.560 when I made it, all my friends want to be 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.800 like they want to be like them for real because 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.480 we all started rapping. I should have just stayed marketing 1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:44.760 the car. But as long as you have fun, because 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:46.640 you know what, I waiting for you to come back. 1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:51.680 I gotta takes um. But you know what, I'm gonna 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:56.640 be honest with you. Um, you're so much of inspiration 1:02:56.800 --> 1:03:01.000 for the people in Queen's Bridge. Like I've seen I 1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:04.640 seen one time I was in Zoe's place. I seen 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:08.880 you just drove by. He's like, you just drove by, 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.520 and I remember the whole block and there's a little 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:16.720 like anybody's just like yo, I just drove through like, 1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:20.000 do you you understand how much of an inspiration you offered. 1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:22.440 I was always back, man, I never you know. It's 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.120 just like when you talk about like Queen's brand and 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:27.920 everybody rappids, that's from there when I when I left. 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:30.320 When I left, I always wanted to make sure I 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.720 always came back. That's what it was about, you know. 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:37.400 But sometimes I would be the only one there, you know. 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:40.080 But but then you know, but then it was like 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:43.200 so much going on because like, yeah, I honestly I 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:44.720 always wanted to be in a home with like you 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:46.800 and mob and not that's like at the same time, 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:51.360 and never never really was like that seeing them mobs 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:54.880 Ronald Test just chilling. I'm gonna tell you, like this, 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:57.000 it was I was gonna be like that. Now I's 1:03:57.000 --> 1:03:58.960 gonna be like that. I was always mad about that, 1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:02.000 Like why I said it. Sometimes I was talking to media. 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:04.080 I don't want to talk too much out of line 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:07.280 because Nasti is like a big brother and you know, 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:09.960 having his like my family is so crack on the 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:16.200 same floor, same same right there, you know, And I 1:04:16.280 --> 1:04:18.440 was like, why did nobody comes together? Why nobody? Why 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:21.080 does nobody doing records together? It used to kill me 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:23.280 because like I'm like all for it. I'm for it. 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:26.000 But you know, but now everybody's still doing anything. And 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:28.640 you know, I hope I would love one day for 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:30.840 it to kind of be like that. You know, it 1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:32.680 was crazy, it was amazing. I definitely inspired me. I 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:34.120 ain't gonnae. I don't know if I would have made 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.960 it without you, because I like, I wanted to be something. 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:39.720 I wanted to be something, you know. Um, And I 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:42.920 was always like the music was always like something I 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:50.000 can relate to and something that pushed me. Absolutely, I'm 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:53.760 getting something a little a little emotional. But um, where 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:57.840 was you at when you when you heard the Prodigy pass? Um? 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:04.320 Probably I speak to Prodigy, you know text Prodigy. Prodigy 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:06.680 is one of my He's he's a real dude. We 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:11.200 started Infamous Records. I was the first investor Infamous Records. Um, 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:14.280 but nobody knew that. But um, you know, and probably 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:16.000 just a big brother, you know what I'm saying. And 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:19.440 when he passed away, it was tough. Man. It was 1:05:19.480 --> 1:05:21.600 like it was unreal. Couldn't believe it. Didn't think it 1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:25.000 was real. You know, I just saw him, you know 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:26.920 what I'm saying, Just seeing that he's too young. He's 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:29.800 too young, ago away And that was a tough one, man, 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:32.640 because my favorite record of all time is better than Memorial, 1:05:33.440 --> 1:05:34.720 you know. And I would tell him that that's my 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:38.120 favorite record and uh and um you know that was 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:40.600 that was That was a tough one. But his sons 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:43.600 a producer. I hope his son makes beats for everybody. 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:47.280 And let's do that. Let's do that, Let's do that. Yeah, 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:52.080 let's do that, man. But um, I'm gonna be I 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:54.439 just I just wanted you to know, man, we're proud 1:05:54.520 --> 1:05:58.959 of you. Us in Queens. We're holding you down. We're gonna, 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:02.960 we're gonna, we're gonna continue to represent for you. But 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:07.000 now now let's get to my chaff. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:10.160 Now this is this is this listen. I'm not gonna lie. 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:12.960 I don't. I don't laugh with tears. Come on, ma, 1:06:14.440 --> 1:06:20.280 But you're on ESPN, T and T same, this thing 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:24.200 is on national TV. Right. What did you just play 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:29.439 against Kobe? What's he was playing against? Um? Oh yeah, 1:06:31.000 --> 1:06:34.000 well I said it when he was alive. I said 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:36.440 when he passed away, I had his I had his 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:38.920 name right in my heavy play against James. Now put 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:40.400 his name. But yeah, when he was alive, all right, 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:43.240 when he was alive, so they said, they said to him, 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:46.640 they said, y'all, what's this toughest game you had? The 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:49.720 god or someone like? This is the color? He says, 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:53.400 I said, well, it's the toughest person you ever had. 1:06:53.560 --> 1:07:02.040 God film, I should kill me. But now if you 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:04.960 don't know who Mike Chappen, now let me just tell 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:10.040 you something. Mike Chapter comes to the jail. This nigger 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:14.720 arms like he just walks to the jail. Right, I'm 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:18.600 into jail. He walks in. Just look at this thick. 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:22.120 I don't know why, but I feel like I know you, 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:26.560 he said from Queensbridge. I know it. I knew it. 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:30.960 And this nigger arms to me. You cannot take the 1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:34.280 ball from this thicker. But when he was in jail, 1:07:34.360 --> 1:07:37.840 playing against he was a ball up. So nobody ke 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:40.080 He just said he went to jail like he was 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:43.240 in jail. No nig went to jail. He didn't even 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:47.040 tell nobody he plays ball. So he jail. He's not 1:07:47.240 --> 1:07:56.000 visiting you like I'm a batt j right, but mind 1:07:56.080 --> 1:07:58.560 you comes to and he's like yeo, He's like, I 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:01.200 know you know what I'm ever because remind you, this 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:04.800 is noon and Noriega ship, this is before. So I'm 1:08:04.880 --> 1:08:07.280 looking and then just one day this think it just 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:09.760 grabbed the ball and we're go on the ball court 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:11.640 and this nick it just grabbed the ball. He was 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.040 just like, and I kid you not, you cannot take 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:20.479 the ball. He was a special player, was a dude. 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:23.600 And I'm just I was like once I knew that, 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:26.760 I was like, I wanted to play against everybody. I 1:08:26.840 --> 1:08:31.160 was like, yo, cool me. I never knew that. I 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.640 alread he was ball. I already was working out in jail. No, 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:37.760 he got busy, and they said he that was my 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:41.519 secret weapon. So when you said that, and you said 1:08:41.560 --> 1:08:44.840 the nigger said was this hard? And you said the 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:48.120 hardest player I ever played against, Mike chap Yo, I'm 1:08:48.160 --> 1:08:53.519 not gonna lie. Yes came out. So Mike, Mike and 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:57.080 Kobe they remind me of each other. Their toughness. They 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.840 definitely And then I never knew Mike beat right. He 1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:01.840 I saw about him last week at Zoe reason right, 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:05.040 he told me, And then I'm like, oh, well it 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:07.400 might be me thirty two to two when I was thirteen, 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:12.639 he beat right? He like, right, he scored a little more, Mike, Mike, 1:09:13.120 --> 1:09:15.840 remember the score. Remember I'm never going to figure that score, 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:20.559 never gonna figuret that scores. That made you great? Two 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:23.280 to two he beat right, hem thirty two to twice. 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:31.120 I scored once. Oh and right, he might think right, 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:33.040 he might have had like twenty six. Right, he was nice. 1:09:33.240 --> 1:09:35.599 I didn't even know he'd be right here. But Mike was. Um. 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:39.000 He was in jail with seventeen years old at the time. Yes, 1:09:39.160 --> 1:09:41.360 we was in kidding jail together. Yes, the seven sixteen 1:09:41.360 --> 1:09:49.559 seven sixteen, Yes, was on the other side. Yes, that's 1:09:49.600 --> 1:09:52.680 how we all know each other. That's crazy. When it 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:56.439 was nice too and I'm three, but um, But then 1:09:56.560 --> 1:10:00.120 when when Mike, he was all supposed to LC me, 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:02.160 Mike and Reggie Jessie went to Beshop Block and St. 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:04.960 John's and me Mike Chadfield brother who was like with 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.400 me at High Scho High School. I have twenty five, 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:09.640 my Chatfield brother. I was twenty two. What's your new 1:10:09.680 --> 1:10:11.960 Mexico and all that you know? And then Mike, when 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:14.640 he came out of jail, we knew Mike was nice. Um, 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:18.720 but then you know, Mike love the streets. Mike love 1:10:18.800 --> 1:10:20.840 of the streets, and I just I don't, I know, 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:23.680 I never really got it, but that's my man. He 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:25.519 was the best. And when when I shouted him out 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:27.120 like I'm always gonna let you know that he was 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:29.120 the best. And then I got my chance to say 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:31.479 it on t NC, he hit me up. Yo, he 1:10:31.640 --> 1:10:35.080 in the streets hustling like your things for that he 1:10:35.160 --> 1:10:41.000 still that's my I'm I'm like when he said that, 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:44.400 because because no one in the world knew what the 1:10:44.560 --> 1:10:57.439 funding was talking about, Kenny Sniff did about what the 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:01.720 thing was. That's we have so many unsung heroes, right, 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:04.920 that's from my hood, Like so many people that have 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:10.720 this props, but they don't actually be recognized. It was 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:12.439 a bunch of people in front of me. It was right, 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:19.800 hein Johnson, the NINAS was nice, Mike chad Field Esse 1:11:20.040 --> 1:11:22.120 I had, you know, and then like sometimes you get 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:24.760 lucky and the ship just opened up for me because 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:26.200 they stopped playing. You know a lot of the guys 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:29.000 stopped playing. You know, he law the streets to my dude, 1:11:29.960 --> 1:11:34.880 what do you think, what do you think? Because it 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:37.560 was too easy for him, right, you gotta think about it. 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:39.840 When right, we played against left right, right, he would 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.160 give us forty We had no chance. Right, he was 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:44.800 too nice. He had no chance, you know. And I 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.280 think it was too easy for him to early. Um, 1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.439 he played. They got bored with it. At the NBA camp, 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:52.240 I didn't get invited. It was the top hundred players, 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:54.280 right he was. They were Kobe has to picture I 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:57.599 post on my Instagram, right he was. He was nice 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:01.360 And um, I always gonna tell him that to you know, yeah, 1:12:02.160 --> 1:12:05.920 to be honest, man, bro, you you're a great guy. Man, 1:12:06.800 --> 1:12:12.160 Be honest. I'm trying to give you all. I'm not 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:19.160 gonna I'm not wrong back there, you know you let 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:23.120 me just let me just keep it keep what's what's Vick? 1:12:23.240 --> 1:12:30.200 You know? Vic? Ye? Yes, Well I'm I'm gonna tell you. 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:32.559 I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell your classic story. 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:39.280 No queens, so Vic Vic and half like he was 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:43.680 half for the weekend, like they kept comparing. Well, well, no, 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:46.760 he had curly here, yeah, curly here, right, I got 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:50.120 curly here. Right. So there's the top two niggas. Right, 1:12:50.479 --> 1:12:53.360 So Vick comes to you know, that's Roight Hines fake 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:56.680 cousin too, right, So they bring they bring them to 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:00.760 the left. Frack, I got on the I caught him 1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:05.760 the shoes, so it comes on. They said, I'm you're 1:13:05.800 --> 1:13:10.240 the only guy I gotta beat on the top and 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:18.720 y player. Y'all definitely didn't say that then, but it 1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:24.920 just I'm powaphrase. So the niggas said, Yo, y'all, I's 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:31.479 do it right now. Damn, I got on shoes. This 1:13:31.680 --> 1:13:37.040 is a legendary story around him with Cosan. I get 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:41.920 the nigga, I get the niggas gave him. I had 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:47.120 on No, he had on shoes. I gave him, yeah, 1:13:52.120 --> 1:14:02.840 and bust them by one point. That's right, only by 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:07.840 one point, because I was I didn't know what it 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:13.120 was that the nigga was nice, I said, but I 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:15.000 ain't gonna lie. It was only the problem of the 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:18.120 hood that made me win. Like I'm gonna be honest, 1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:21.439 like the nigga had me like he had me in 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:27.920 my shoes. But I said, I was, you know, you 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:33.400 know your hood. You start, you know you're gonna win. 1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:40.040 Is the only two of y'all from Queens. You gotta relax. Fantastic, 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:44.800 my nigga, And that's why you ever played against Havoc. 1:14:45.520 --> 1:14:49.160 Don't have his trash. It was not that bad having trash, 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:58.559 just trash. And yeah in ball they trashi nas trash. 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:02.040 I've never seen nas plash. I've never seen n. I 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:05.960 love nas, think fund and everything I got going on 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:13.639 right now. I love you also seen you. I don't 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:16.559 think listen right now, let's what we should do, massive 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:21.439 pill against drink Champs basketball game. We're gonna throw it 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:25.000 out there right now. But but we don't want to 1:15:25.040 --> 1:15:33.960 play against the staff. We want to play against jungle nas. Yeah, Davies, Yeah, 1:15:34.080 --> 1:15:37.760 we want to do it because I'm honest looking at you, 1:15:38.960 --> 1:15:52.160 I think you trash to oh you you go to 1:15:52.240 --> 1:16:01.360 the sideline. But I'm going right now. We need like 1:16:01.560 --> 1:16:04.720 now now I wanna um because I got to go 1:16:04.800 --> 1:16:11.200 the bath, but no, I want to enforce how real 1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:15.200 is having a reinforcement guy like you on the team, 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:21.040 because like Dennis Rodman was one thing, like I felt 1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:23.679 like he paved the way for you. Am I correcting 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:26.920 my We were similar but different because I was a scorer, 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:29.240 you know, and you didn't have blonde here I didn't 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:36.559 have you did. Because you can definitely my favorite player. 1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:38.800 I want ninety one because of Dennist Like that's my 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:41.680 favorite player. So so how did you how did you 1:16:41.840 --> 1:16:45.519 develop like you know, like fun that you're not scoring 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:48.679 on me. I mean, honestly, it came from Tall Street, 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:51.080 you know what I'm saying. That's where it came from. 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:56.320 You know, keep going and you're playing with the guys 1:16:56.360 --> 1:16:58.760 and you can't get on the court. You can't get 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:02.519 on the court, you know, unless you ready. And there's 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:04.080 only one quote on twelve set. I'm not going to 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:07.080 running and I don't know. I don't want to as well. 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:11.439 I'm staying at Yeah, I'm staying right and I'm not 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:13.080 I'm not going one of any one of those runers. 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:15.920 And you know, I'm not going to pass it and 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:18.479 I'm not going to I'm not going cool. Sometimes they 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:20.720 go to Baby Park. Baby Park is cool, and they 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:22.960 go to Baby Park, but the hill is real too, 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:25.960 um um the Reese. You don't want to I mean, yeah, 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:28.400 this is a game. So I stayed on tell the Street. 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:29.880 And then in order to get on the court, you 1:17:29.960 --> 1:17:31.240 had to make it. And I started to make it. 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:33.920 Motherfucker's They would try to thug me out, and I 1:17:33.960 --> 1:17:36.280 started to get bigger and bigger, and I was I 1:17:36.360 --> 1:17:38.559 was playing with the men at like twelve thirteen years old, 1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:40.560 and I'm playing with my pops every night, so I 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:43.240 was ready for all those elbows they were throwing, you know, 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:45.560 and they did. They let me play every time. I 1:17:45.680 --> 1:17:47.800 was the only the only teenager playing. I wasn't even 1:17:47.800 --> 1:17:50.439 a teenager. I like twel years old and I was 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:57.240 locking motherfucker's up. Now you go to the NBA, and 1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:00.120 now when is the time where they say this is 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:04.360 the guy? Because at one point people would just like, yo, listen, 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:07.640 we're gonna, We're gonna because you're just intimidating everybody. No 1:18:07.720 --> 1:18:09.160 one wants to go to the hole. This is this 1:18:09.240 --> 1:18:10.880 is what it was. This is what it was like. 1:18:10.880 --> 1:18:13.080 They would they would say like I was fouling stuff, 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:15.280 but I never really fouled out. And I would use 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:17.120 all my fouls. I know, when I had five, I'm 1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:20.800 not getting six because I'm gonna be honest right there, Um, 1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:23.720 that was all your fouls. Now, at one point, he 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:29.000 was just the foul guy. He was just listen, listen. 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.679 They just put him the game of foul people people. 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:41.519 And then you get about listen, yo, he thought he 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.800 was nice. He's never nice to play the game. Just 1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:57.000 to found people. He's a much that's but but he 1:18:57.280 --> 1:19:01.320 he is a butcher, you know, So how did you 1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:04.720 develop that? Man? Telling it's like no one, you know. 1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:07.120 Sometimes like I feel like there was a lot of 1:19:07.200 --> 1:19:10.160 all stars getting like a lot of um recognition, and 1:19:10.240 --> 1:19:12.920 then like I wasn't getting as recognition because I wasn't 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:15.599 a high jumper. So I decided to really take defense 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.320 to the next level. And honest, in some games, I 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:18.920 wouldn't even want to rebou I wouldn't want to get 1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:21.200 no stats, which hurt me a little bit. But sometimes 1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:23.320 I get, like, you know, some remounds of fall in 1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:25.880 my hands. So I got to rebounds maybe like four points, 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.120 maybe six points, and be the best player on the floor. 1:19:28.200 --> 1:19:29.840 I always wanted to be the best player on the floor. 1:19:30.160 --> 1:19:32.799 But I was strolling without getting rebound, without without any stats, 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:35.040 and I was able to do that. Sometimes I'll be 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.360 I'll walk on the floor and I had at least 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:39.439 some other points, but we win and I shut down 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:41.880 my opponent, and I'm the best foot player on the 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:46.200 floor without any stats, you know. And it's hard to do. 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:48.320 But you gotta get a lot of deflections. You gotta 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:50.200 do all you you gotta box out every single time. 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:55.200 Fifty bowls. You know, good passes, you know, good defense, 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:57.000 and you're the best player on the floor. But just 1:19:57.160 --> 1:20:00.880 defense and win the game. And when the game not 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:05.519 a Big three, are you enjoying it? I'm I'm enjoying 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:07.120 the Big three? You know. It's it's a little time 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:10.920 consuming because, like, you know, just all the stuff I'm 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:13.760 trying to do. Now, you know, they pay they pay us. 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:17.240 You know, it pay us a hunting racks fifty after tax, 1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:19.600 you know. And when you make so much one in 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:25.880 the NBA, that's not as motivating, you know. But yeah, 1:20:26.160 --> 1:20:31.120 the season is like ten weeks you go. You know 1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:33.200 what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, you know, it's 1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:38.040 not as motivating as the NBA. Check but it's fun. 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:40.599 It's for ice Cube. I want to see it do well, 1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:44.200 you know, and um, it feels like the NBA. But 1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:46.240 the salaries are going to be going up next year. 1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:48.400 They're going to continue to go up. But is that 1:20:48.479 --> 1:20:50.920 aspected as a player to join or just be happy 1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:52.720 that they're part of Big three? No? But I think 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:55.320 right now you're paving the way. I'm happy that I'm 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:58.040 paving away for somebody else. We're not reading the benefits. 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:08.200 Oh man, um you know my favorite record, the record 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.640 um L A l A Big City of Dreams. But 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:18.640 I like the remix Queens Rich for real. We're not 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:22.320 We're not wrapping it up street find this in the building. 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:27.160 You know what I'm saying. Um, I get it. They 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:35.760 get that's my man? Is that nuts? Okay? A one time, 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:40.280 one time? Yeah, I was just I definitely wanted to 1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:44.320 smoke so so um So, Now when you look at 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:48.800 what's happened in the NBA right now, because well I 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:51.839 have to ask you, right, because you're an NBA expert 1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:56.360 and more than anybody in this room. Bron went to 1:21:56.400 --> 1:22:02.400 the Lakers. Cousins also goes Golden State. What is gonna 1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:05.120 happen next year? What is gonna happen this year? It 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:08.160 is the East doesn't even matter. I like I like 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:12.840 the um I like the big I like the super teams. 1:22:14.720 --> 1:22:17.320 You know, I like the super teams because um, I 1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:21.280 like the super teams because sometimes in the NBA you 1:22:21.320 --> 1:22:23.519 don't have to be that nice to be on the squad. 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:27.880 If you just have good connections with the super teams, 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:31.320 you've gotta be nice. Now, you know I was trying 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:32.840 to get twenty years in the least. I kind of 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:35.600 made it if I wanted to, you know. But you know, 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:39.639 sometimes you just when you're out or with the super teams, 1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:41.880 you've gotta be nice, you know what I'm saying. So 1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:44.679 I'm hoping it's like I'm hoping it's more super teams, 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:47.040 because one, dude, you can't be in the game when 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:51.160 you're going up against um Durant, Carry and Clay. You 1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:53.360 gotta be you gotta be ready. So I hope they 1:22:53.400 --> 1:22:55.800 I hope they get more, and I hope some people 1:22:55.840 --> 1:23:01.920 from call you and say, listen, yeah, I need you 1:23:02.040 --> 1:23:07.960 to suit up yellow on purple. What you're doing. I 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:16.519 don't playing one on one first, I'm gonna tell you why, 1:23:17.120 --> 1:23:20.600 because like my mind is not what basketball is like, 1:23:21.040 --> 1:23:29.840 you know, I'm like rich, No, I'm just saying when 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:31.840 you think like that, I don't want to go there. 1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:37.280 I don't want to wrap wrap It's okay, but because 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:40.479 I'm just it's just like so much politics involved. I 1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:42.559 get ready for a season and you don't play well, 1:23:42.600 --> 1:23:45.040 you get so ready to bring somebody else and it's like, Okay, 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:46.840 what am I getting ready for? But if I play 1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:48.720 Lebron one on one. Alright, cool, I'm about to go 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:50.880 in and get in shape. I'm ready one of the 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:53.320 one real quick. I'm not gonna look. Motivate me here, 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.639 motivate me. I'm looking at you. You look in shape 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:59.280 right now, I'm having bad shape. What you want to So? 1:23:59.720 --> 1:24:09.000 What what is in shape? Honestly? Your father, that's you. 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:12.160 Gotta you gotta call your father tomorrow say thank you that. Yeah, 1:24:12.680 --> 1:24:14.360 I'm gonna be honest. You just happened a three way. 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:19.120 I was like, yeah for that hang off. But because 1:24:19.160 --> 1:24:22.880 because you look, look that's installed in your brain. You're 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:25.240 already you're supposed to be, and you want to be 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:26.960 the person that you you know what I mean. I 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:30.559 could definitely do it. I can definitely bust. A lot 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:33.960 of people are asking the league. Absolutely, but I'm not Lebron. 1:24:34.080 --> 1:24:35.720 Let's not go. There's a lot of people I could bust. 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:37.439 I'm not gonna say a lot of people ask like 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:39.280 a bust. But now I'm coaching this young boy, so 1:24:39.320 --> 1:24:40.920 I'm not like, I'm not trying to make it as 1:24:41.000 --> 1:24:45.120 much cause I'm helping going with you. I'm going with you. 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:49.120 He's my guy. The Lakers might win it next year. 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:54.160 By the way, you no, stop, stop stop. How many 1:24:54.160 --> 1:24:56.000 more spots they got left to fill? They got a 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:58.519 couple of spots. They got the brain and they got money. No, 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:08.560 they got listen, got Lebron and nobody. Right now, we 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:10.120 don't know what the young boys gonna do coming back. 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:12.479 We don't know how good they're gonna be. Who knows, 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:14.160 Like did they get did they get that much better? 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:18.920 If they did, who's came back better? They whose was nice? 1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:22.760 Ever considered about being a coach. Yeah, I'm coaching like 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:24.680 I coached the South Bay Lakers. You know, they gave 1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:27.640 me the opportunity to what Lakers? South Bay? It's like 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:31.519 the Lakers little little league team? Can you invite me? Yeah, 1:25:31.680 --> 1:25:33.559 but I don't. I just like practice with them. By 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:36.960 the way, did you didn't even invite me the Big Three? Yeah? 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:39.040 I mean I got your tickets. Yeah, cool, I got 1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:45.880 tickets for your cool. Cool just handing that right now, 1:25:46.720 --> 1:25:52.120 I'm getting my government. We got the Big Three. When 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:56.559 you see a seat, take the seat. But yes, people 1:25:56.560 --> 1:25:59.040 are roaming around. It's a dope experience. So it's it's 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:00.960 not like when I go to the heat because I 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:03.280 got to eat. I got, I got, you know, the 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:07.479 v I p section the cold because I ain't like 1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:09.920 that's not no nothing like that. A little more simpler, 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:13.400 little now. But it's dope that you enjoy it. Man, 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.719 And it's your first year, the Big Three, my first year. Okay, 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:19.680 you know it's just fun. You know, I'm just going 1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:24.240 it's like Rucker. It's like an upgraded Rucker. Like it's 1:26:24.240 --> 1:26:29.519 definitely upgraded, definitely graded Rucker. They're gonna kill they're doing anything. 1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:31.400 But if I had like a whole year, if prepare 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:33.519 for it, I would I get more ready. I just 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:36.800 wasn't mentally, you know, I'm not like workout every day 1:26:37.200 --> 1:26:38.960 I come up. I want to win, like I'm just not. 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:42.479 So why exactly as you kicked the ball, I'm gonna 1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:44.680 tell you why I kicked the ball. I tell you 1:26:44.800 --> 1:26:49.240 I keep the ball, you know, I keep the ball. 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:53.160 In one twelve, he told me that, Yeah, yeah, definitely 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:54.920 kicked the ball. On one twelf everybody kicked the ball. 1:26:55.880 --> 1:26:58.479 Keep the ball. I'm gonna throw that out there like that, 1:26:58.600 --> 1:27:02.599 even if I'm even if I'm losing like that, hey 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:06.640 just just qualify the game. Sorry, but I'm saying that's 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:10.800 not what happened with you. Hey when it Steve Jackson 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:14.000 got pushed by Al Harrison, I'm like the rest of 1:27:14.160 --> 1:27:17.160 cold fair. I'm like, if he didn't see that, I 1:27:17.200 --> 1:27:18.960 don't need to be in this game. So I was 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:21.559 trying to get the ball, you know, I just show 1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:24.320 him how bad the referee you are and kick it 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:26.920 and m he injected me. I'm like, thank you. I 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:30.160 don't want to be in this game. I want to play. 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:32.759 I need rules, you know what I'm saying, what's the rules? 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:34.760 You know? Like I talked and I talked to as 1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:37.439 cuming them about it, you know, and like just cold 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.400 real fat. I don't mind grinding, but I'm not trying 1:27:40.479 --> 1:27:44.280 to be like headlocking somebody pushing somebody there, Like he's 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:45.680 setting us up. He's setting us up for the big 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:51.000 browl again. You're getting fight, you know for me, Like 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:53.639 because if you push me, I'm like, I'm not gonna 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:56.599 let you keep pushing me. I can't turn it off, 1:27:57.479 --> 1:27:59.920 you know, So the rest gotta the reals gotta controller. 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:06.000 So now this fourteen years between you and Jamine, I 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:09.479 can't understand that. Like I know I asked you that earlier. Yeah, 1:28:10.000 --> 1:28:15.960 but I can't understand, like, like you don't gonna stands 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:19.760 by yourself. You from what I see, you didn't look. 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:22.599 You didn't care if anybody's behind you. You just wanted 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:24.799 to get the neggle to hit you with this orange. 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:26.680 I really didn't want them to run behind me. They 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:29.400 did because they real, but I didn't. They lost a 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:32.000 lot of money too, But but why so why why 1:28:32.040 --> 1:28:35.280 didn't y'all speak after that? Because you lost money and 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:39.560 they lost, So why wouldn't y'all? That was crazy to 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.800 me because it was like this wasn't honestly, it wasn't 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:45.880 out of disrespect, like I never really went to lunch, 1:28:46.960 --> 1:28:50.639 but anybody with anybody, right, I really I respect Jermaine. 1:28:50.720 --> 1:28:53.280 Like we got on that floor. I practiced as crazy, 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:56.679 real competitive, you know, because Jermaine is crazy. I'm crazy, 1:28:56.960 --> 1:29:03.240 actually crazy. We gotta bunch of you know what I'm 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:12.160 saying it reg Miller, Oh yeah, sorry, regime regiment. Regime 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:16.000 Miller was still there, you know. And practice was competitive, 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:20.360 you know, and that was it. And I when I'm competing, 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:23.800 I'm thinking about tomorrow's practice. So I'm not trying to 1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.479 go out with anybody, you know, I want to bush 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:29.479 your as small and as every day, and I never 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:31.120 was able to turn it off and just get some 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:33.120 lunch and just chill. You know. I didn't know how 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:36.200 to chill, you know, And that's why. But they understanding you, 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:38.759 you don't understand. And I was I was young, nineteen, 1:29:38.800 --> 1:29:42.000 I had a baby, you know, and um, I have 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:43.679 a baby when I was seventeen, going to a couple 1:29:43.720 --> 1:29:46.240 of things with the WIFEE. So my mind wasn't all 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:50.000 the way on the court. Also, you know, I was 1:29:50.040 --> 1:29:51.679 trying to figure out what I'm gonna do as nineteen 1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:53.800 or I got all this money. No, I'm just like 1:29:53.920 --> 1:29:56.080 doing I'm doing crazy show. I'm not really focused on 1:29:56.200 --> 1:29:59.680 like just just ball, you know. No. But but but 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:02.639 here's the reason why I asked you this, right, It's 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:06.640 because immediately when we get somebody that we know they 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.360 don't drink champs, I get my go with thee go 1:30:09.479 --> 1:30:13.560 at and he googled something. And when he googles it, 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:16.960 and then the first thing that popped up was, um, 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:24.479 that speaks the first time for fourteen years. And it 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:27.400 fucked me up because I'm thinking, I'm not thinking the 1:30:27.520 --> 1:30:30.080 incident that doesn't pop in my mind. I'm like, I know, 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:33.360 they were both at they were both paces at the 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:36.439 same time. So I'm like, all right, I'm thinking like that, 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:40.000 and then or of a sudden, I'm like, okay, so 1:30:40.120 --> 1:30:45.679 you're saying, give me if I'm wrong. What you're saying 1:30:45.880 --> 1:30:48.080 it was kind of like your fault because you were 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.400 kind of like in the league, but you were like defensive, 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:55.200 like you really want that in the industry. I used 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:58.439 to be like that in the industry. And I'm saying 1:30:58.479 --> 1:31:00.120 with some of my best friends, by the way, is 1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:04.720 out Hearington, Wow, Steve Man. I talked to them, and 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:07.880 I talked about the people you know, Um, not because 1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:10.120 of any disrespect, just you know, but I functioned with them, 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:12.599 Wow Hearings and always reach out, yo, let's get some lunch, 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:15.760 you know. And and Steve, you actually what they reach 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:18.720 out all the time. I always invited me everywhere, you know, 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:21.960 And I remember that to this day, you know, invited 1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:23.320 me everywhere. I just went out. And it wasn't just 1:31:23.400 --> 1:31:24.760 done my other teams too. I I got to go 1:31:24.840 --> 1:31:28.200 to my room. I try to get my rests, you know. Um, 1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:31.479 you know, and I'm always thinking about the game wow. 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:35.360 In practice. But as I got older, you know, I 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:37.559 was just chilling. I can't I didn't care, I said, 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:39.160 I prepared and all the time, I just wanna have fun. 1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:41.160 We lose whatever, because you know, I take losing to first. 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.000 I was in the maskment gardens and I threw the camera. 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:44.720 I took the camera off the guy. To what I 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:50.200 was mad. We lost a lot. That's the world up. 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:56.160 As soon as I said, ya, I got, I said, 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:58.160 I got, we got medals and night, like I said, 1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:00.120 you know that they kicked the ball just like you. 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:05.840 And I think the camera it was a hundred thou camel, 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:08.519 you know what I mean for the camera. So I'm 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:10.160 not thinking about the camera. I'm just I'm just mad 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:16.160 a and I'm like, fuck, I'll ask I had a 1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:18.479 camera to fix the pieces, like maybe I can make 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:21.320 eight back. That's a lot of money. They ain't even 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:23.200 give me the camera back, you know what I mean. 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:26.599 I'm gonna fix that and use that. But yeah, it's 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:28.599 a lot of crazy like that. But but I'm happy 1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:31.720 with everything. Though. You think the NBA is so off 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.840 right now now it's back now. It was so if 1:32:34.880 --> 1:32:37.479 you say that because the seven years, but let me 1:32:37.560 --> 1:32:39.439 let me explain. Let me explain where I'm coming from 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:44.200 the Jordan Barkley era. Yeah, these niggas was elbowing each 1:32:44.240 --> 1:32:50.040 other all that. Yeah yeah yeah. Then they got the 1:32:50.280 --> 1:32:53.880 next era and now they got this arrow even if 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:59.040 they come near you. Yeah they got yeah yeah, yeah 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:01.400 yeah yeah. But then you got a dreamond Green. He 1:33:01.479 --> 1:33:03.599 played like you. It's a couple of guys that could 1:33:03.640 --> 1:33:06.519 have played back in the days. This like a couple 1:33:06.520 --> 1:33:08.240 of years ago. I couldn't say that the league super 1:33:08.280 --> 1:33:13.439 soft right now? Physical So cousins Lebron said, you said 1:33:13.439 --> 1:33:15.760 the league is super soft. Say that you try to 1:33:15.800 --> 1:33:18.880 say that and just kept going. The league is not 1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:23.519 right now. I feel like that. I feel like, no, 1:33:24.160 --> 1:33:26.800 not right now. It was. It was. It was like 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:28.679 maybe three or four years ago. It was super soft 1:33:28.680 --> 1:33:31.000 because they called every foul. So what they did was 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:35.080 the overseas players wasn't physical enough to play in the NBA. 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:38.479 You want to expand your game, and when you're coming 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:40.679 over here and you're playing the old rule, you don't 1:33:40.720 --> 1:33:42.240 want to got a chance against US Americans over here. 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:46.120 Quite honestly, until you evolved. They had, they happened quicker 1:33:46.120 --> 1:33:48.519 at it, so they opened it up. Yeah, that they 1:33:48.600 --> 1:33:51.960 let their loud zone, you know, and the shooters, the 1:33:52.000 --> 1:33:55.360 better shooters are all overseas, so there was a lot 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:56.880 of rules. So there wasn't let you bump, Like if 1:33:56.920 --> 1:33:58.479 Curry's coming off me and I hit him, I can't 1:33:58.520 --> 1:34:00.720 bump them like before you could do. All that said, 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:02.240 they freed the game for the for the for the 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:05.720 smaller players, you know. And but now I feel like 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:08.400 this again is coming back game more physical. They wanted 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:11.360 to be more physical. He played against that. I played 1:34:11.360 --> 1:34:16.280 against him, man na. I never shot him down very 1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:18.160 hard to shut him down. I never I mean, I 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:20.599 wasn't in my prime. And then at the same time, 1:34:20.760 --> 1:34:22.400 like I didn't play agains him a lot. It would 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:25.280 have been fun, you know, But now he was already 1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:28.720 going that way. How about k D k D. I 1:34:28.800 --> 1:34:31.479 called k D and my prime and I was abled 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:33.920 to I think, I think, I think he shot twenty 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:36.960 nine percent and the playoffs, But that's when he was young. 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:38.840 He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready at 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:40.960 that time. He was he was, he was becoming ready. 1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:42.120 He's just see him. But I called him on the 1:34:42.160 --> 1:34:44.719 perfect time because he was probably right now. You probably 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:48.240 gave me Phanzy so where do you rank yourself as 1:34:48.280 --> 1:34:51.639 the best defensive player in the world, Because I'm gonna 1:34:51.640 --> 1:34:55.840 be honest, I only have two defensive players and yeah, 1:34:56.400 --> 1:34:59.320 and it's the only Dinnis probing in you. And I 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:01.840 don't care, don't care. Any day it could be you 1:35:02.040 --> 1:35:04.519 one number one, it could be here, amazing. I don't 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:07.160 give enough credit. I give him credit. I always trying 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:09.720 to shout that a lot of you, that nigga living, 1:35:09.840 --> 1:35:12.639 that nigga living down the block. I see the snicker 1:35:12.640 --> 1:35:14.720 all the time. And once I was gonna, I was 1:35:14.760 --> 1:35:22.800 gonna wastz this up. It's not his podcast. No, he's 1:35:22.840 --> 1:35:28.519 my guy. But he was litt and I looked probably 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:30.559 not as much no more. I had to leave because 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:41.760 I don't want don't want to stay that. No, I 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:45.160 didn't want to do it. I was just like, he 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:49.639 smacked every bitch ass that walked through that and I'm 1:35:49.720 --> 1:35:53.040 with my wife and I'm gonna be honest my wife. 1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:57.080 So I walked through, and my wife about to walk through. 1:35:57.120 --> 1:36:02.240 I said, hold on, baby, relaxed, stay over there, and 1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:07.200 then every other bitch that walked through, and I looked 1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:10.839 at this nig I said, listen, and all his homies OneD, 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:17.880 and I just looked at this thing, and I said, 1:36:18.280 --> 1:36:21.960 be sure because his boat is balked under my house. 1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:28.280 You don't understand. He has a boat called the Rodman 1:36:30.240 --> 1:36:32.880 in front of my house. So I'm like, nigga, you're 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:35.800 not gonna win tonight, and you're not gonna win getting 1:36:35.840 --> 1:36:41.759 in your boat. So I'm giving him that look. Yeah, 1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:52.800 that nigga ain't Yeah, that sounds like about And he 1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:55.799 was just like and his people said leave this thing along, 1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:58.920 and I stood there. I'm done long. I stood there 1:36:58.920 --> 1:37:10.080 and he's like, all right, I don't even know what 1:37:10.280 --> 1:37:14.599 Marada is, but but big up the dinnis. But he's 1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:19.680 a crazy yeah he Dennis. Dennis is Korea. I've never 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:22.439 been in North Korea, Korea. I love what Dennis did. Man, 1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:26.080 he just wanted to bring peace. That the first time 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:29.360 was wrong. He was drunk. You know, he's still on 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:32.680 cocaine to this day, to this day. The first time, 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:41.519 but little cocaine jaws. I felt, I said, I said, 1:37:41.520 --> 1:37:44.479 I don't got no right there like this nigger right now, 1:37:44.560 --> 1:37:47.960 this Nigel, I feel. I feel Dennis though, man, you know, 1:37:48.040 --> 1:37:50.960 it's like that's my nigga with him. Who he growing 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:56.560 no parents. His life was crazy. He was he was 1:37:56.640 --> 1:38:03.880 everything that's not he didn't have. You gotta calling a 1:38:04.040 --> 1:38:09.200 lecture McDonald too, Maybe Madonnald you were entitled to be 1:38:09.320 --> 1:38:14.320 crazy like you got. God damn it. You have to 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:18.400 fightest white pussy in the world. Why your is not? 1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:22.679 It's funny, that's the best finest white pussy in the world. 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:25.360 My wife is not here. Everybody looking around thinking like, 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:29.160 my wife is here. Okay, if even he was here, 1:38:29.520 --> 1:38:33.000 it's okay. She knows understanding. It's some fine white pussy 1:38:33.080 --> 1:38:37.360 other there. You gotta looking at me like, how are 1:38:37.360 --> 1:38:40.920 you going to end this? Sorr, How are you gonna stop? 1:38:42.120 --> 1:38:44.719 How does it I'm saying it's some fine white pussy 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:46.519 out there. You sometimes nig has got to do it 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:52.960 for real. You gotta ended him in North Korea, That's 1:38:53.000 --> 1:38:57.680 what I'm saying. No, I'm just saying this is this 1:38:57.800 --> 1:39:02.880 is this, It is this right, Yeah, it's a fine 1:39:02.880 --> 1:39:08.439 white pussy before RelA buddy. You don't want to drink 1:39:08.600 --> 1:39:12.680 chance wrong, you have some fine white pussy. No man, 1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:20.519 I'm no, I'm good, you know, and you said what 1:39:23.040 --> 1:39:26.960 I'm I'm so happy right now? You know what my wife. 1:39:29.439 --> 1:39:34.080 But I'm saying because years ago, of course, white business. 1:39:35.760 --> 1:39:41.720 Eight years ago, eight years ago, eighteen years ago. Excuse 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:46.200 it's been years ago, twenty eight years ago. It was 1:39:46.280 --> 1:39:48.400 wild man. You're making all that money, yeah, did doing 1:39:48.439 --> 1:39:52.120 your things. I'm around. It's bussy, but it's some fine 1:39:52.160 --> 1:39:54.120 white pussy out there. I mean, you know people have 1:39:54.240 --> 1:39:58.799 the use, you had any preference. It's beautiful women everywhere. 1:39:58.880 --> 1:40:00.439 You know what I mean, people have they preface. But 1:40:00.560 --> 1:40:04.120 you know I was I'll be just chilling, man. I 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:06.519 ain't got to be honest. I'mn be honest. Being a 1:40:06.640 --> 1:40:10.240 loyal person, you know, a loyal guy. It's better than 1:40:10.360 --> 1:40:13.760 being let's come back. Everybody go through their things. You 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:27.479 ain't gonna be let me honest. Let me look at drains, Morris, listen, 1:40:27.479 --> 1:40:32.639 I'm gonna be honest. When I started straight up coming 1:40:32.720 --> 1:40:37.440 home every night, that's where my life changed. It was beautiful. 1:40:38.520 --> 1:40:46.280 But when I was come back gain, I was wearing 1:40:46.320 --> 1:40:52.120 pink shirts like Mr Leak. It didn't work out for me. 1:40:52.760 --> 1:40:55.680 It didn't work out for me. I was waking up 1:40:55.840 --> 1:41:00.599 and gold Rush. I was in gold rush like Future 1:41:01.320 --> 1:41:06.320 and pancakes. It didn't go together. I was sitting there. 1:41:07.520 --> 1:41:11.680 Then I got my life. I stopped wearing Salmon, he's 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:18.040 very seminar and pink. I stopped hanging out with Shobali 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:22.439 because he's you know, he's a jump off. I'm just 1:41:22.560 --> 1:41:32.200 doing it out there, y'alla. This is my brother. But 1:41:32.320 --> 1:41:35.080 let me just say something. You see a lot of 1:41:35.160 --> 1:41:38.679 times I think, as we're thinking, y'all smashing chicks, there's 1:41:38.680 --> 1:41:41.760 a lot of stories are smashing y'all. There's a lot 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:47.400 of stories in the NBA. And that's that's everybody having fun. 1:41:53.439 --> 1:41:56.880 You cannot, you cannot. You gotta relax and take it. 1:42:01.320 --> 1:42:02.960 I definitely don't want to hang out with you now 1:42:03.040 --> 1:42:14.519 that I experience, got experienced, experienced with it's so good. No, 1:42:14.680 --> 1:42:21.160 but that's real ship. So now you see this big 1:42:21.400 --> 1:42:25.760 conglomerate with the Golden State going on and Lebron. Can 1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:30.080 Lebron even survive this year? Yeah, they're gonna be. They're 1:42:30.120 --> 1:42:31.960 gonna they're trying to win in because I just went 1:42:32.040 --> 1:42:34.679 to um the Raptors. Correct. Yeah, I don't think Lebron 1:42:35.720 --> 1:42:39.160 necessarily needed kwhile Kaua. I don't really need Lebron. Lebron 1:42:39.240 --> 1:42:46.479 needs somebodyman, but it might be needed Peter Pan went 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:59.719 to you, that's a new tool. Is that? I'm sorry 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:12.880 because right now you know he gonna be on with 1:43:13.120 --> 1:43:17.880 Jordan's he gotta relax because Jordan and y'all thin. Yeah, 1:43:18.960 --> 1:43:22.280 but Tony Barker Jordan, so, um, what do you think 1:43:22.280 --> 1:43:26.080 about going on? It's gonna be on fire. The Lakers 1:43:26.200 --> 1:43:29.599 is definitely gonna make noise because Kuzma is really good 1:43:29.600 --> 1:43:31.920 and Lebron he gotta shoot. They can shoot, and they 1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:33.639 gotta they have the young guys come back. People didn't 1:43:33.640 --> 1:43:36.080 see him, You though I was Julius was there because 1:43:36.080 --> 1:43:38.519 you know I Julius. But he's gonna play well in 1:43:38.520 --> 1:43:40.040 the Orleans. But the league gonna be on fire. He's 1:43:40.040 --> 1:43:43.519 gonna be good. Everybody stepping it up, everybody working. You 1:43:43.600 --> 1:43:49.200 see anybody online Instagram, everybody training. I was with Chris 1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:52.360 paul Um, Trevor and Harden. It was in the gym 1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:54.920 every day together. You see a last year and then 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:56.439 the show it on the car. I didn't think they 1:43:56.520 --> 1:44:00.240 was gonna play this well. They just you be used. Yeah, 1:44:00.280 --> 1:44:01.840 I don't think it was gonna be there would be 1:44:01.840 --> 1:44:04.160 a Clippers. I'm thinking that. I'm thinking they're gonna win 1:44:04.240 --> 1:44:08.519 like fifty some games, well, you know, forty nine games. 1:44:09.000 --> 1:44:11.599 I could see you at Houston right now, I can't. 1:44:13.120 --> 1:44:17.120 I would need to get motivated. Orizon got traded though 1:44:17.160 --> 1:44:22.479 he loved he did. Wow, they probably travel reasons, Yeah, 1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:27.880 he went, oh yeah, yeah, he went to all you 1:44:27.960 --> 1:44:31.760 got some crushes. Well, yeah, since we're still talking, what 1:44:32.479 --> 1:44:35.200 what were you? Let's say now that you're in the 1:44:35.280 --> 1:44:39.160 Big Three? Is that that depending on the bruise and 1:44:39.200 --> 1:44:40.840 the half court? How do you like the Big Three 1:44:40.880 --> 1:44:43.400 compared to the NBA? Like your coaches, Like, who's your 1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:47.880 favorite coach? Yeah, well in the Big Three? Well, definitely 1:44:48.120 --> 1:44:50.479 in the Big three right now. Charles Oakley is my coach. 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:58.559 I love Charles, you know, I I like Charles oak 1:44:59.200 --> 1:45:03.080 You are going in the oak keep telling you exactly 1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:05.560 what what's wrong. He ain't gonna hold no punches. But 1:45:05.680 --> 1:45:07.880 the way I need tickets. You ain't even got your tickets? 1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:21.720 Keeping got Okay, it's probably Till Jackson is definitely, you know, 1:45:22.080 --> 1:45:30.519 he's Jackson's though Lakers Lakers. It wasn't Phil Jackson the 1:45:30.600 --> 1:45:35.800 Knicks because he funked up the fire him a long 1:45:35.880 --> 1:45:39.320 time ago. I don't think man, I was hoping he 1:45:39.400 --> 1:45:41.360 went to New York, he got well, he got the 1:45:41.439 --> 1:45:44.240 last two rings in New York. Yeah, but that was 1:45:44.320 --> 1:45:46.960 like five years ago. But you know from the York 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:50.519 he went home. He was the last for us. Now, 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:52.640 I ain't gonna lie. His knees was so fucked up. 1:45:52.760 --> 1:45:55.240 He didn't want to be there. Like, I'm gonna be honest. 1:45:55.320 --> 1:45:58.479 That's the person bad knees. I know where I want 1:45:58.520 --> 1:46:01.040 to be at A person sitting east when I Nigga 1:46:01.080 --> 1:46:02.519 walked in there, I think he didn't want to be 1:46:02.640 --> 1:46:08.519 there knees, and I don't want to be here. I 1:46:08.600 --> 1:46:10.680 got funked up knees. But at least I want to 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:13.519 be in these places that I go to. And I've 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:16.320 seen the this is the crazy shot I've seen Phil Jackson. 1:46:16.360 --> 1:46:20.360 I'm getting breakfast and I hate breakfast. So one day 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:22.400 I'm in the Saint Reagions. Just walk across the street. 1:46:22.560 --> 1:46:26.439 I think Phil Jackson's right up to it. Kid. You know, 1:46:26.640 --> 1:46:29.559 I walked outside. I smoked cigarettes still, so I kill 1:46:29.640 --> 1:46:31.800 us out. I went like this. I looked at this 1:46:31.880 --> 1:46:34.160 nigg and looked at me. I said, damn, I think 1:46:34.240 --> 1:46:37.599 feel might suck me up right there. Let this one 1:46:37.720 --> 1:46:42.400 go off I ain't gonna looked at him. I was there, 1:46:44.000 --> 1:46:51.360 I feel my heavy. Let me let this go, because 1:46:51.400 --> 1:46:53.439 I looked. We ain't even see nothing to each other, 1:46:53.600 --> 1:46:56.519 just looked at them. He looked at my face. He said, 1:46:56.880 --> 1:47:00.600 this is a real New York City fans. Look. He 1:47:00.680 --> 1:47:12.240 looked at me. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know you 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:16.439 heard all those meditation stories, but Bob I needed I 1:47:16.479 --> 1:47:19.320 didn't understand these meditation stories all right, So you know 1:47:19.360 --> 1:47:22.040 he would take you in there and this is one 1:47:22.080 --> 1:47:24.360 on one of this with the team, whole squad, turning 1:47:24.439 --> 1:47:27.479 all the lights out, you know, and he um burned 1:47:27.520 --> 1:47:32.360 the stage, that's the ship, the clean the room. Yeah, 1:47:32.800 --> 1:47:37.280 and just meditated locking teach you how to breathe. Amazing experience. 1:47:37.320 --> 1:47:42.599 What does this called the Zin? It's called Zin? I think? Okay, yeah, 1:47:42.640 --> 1:47:47.280 I think he's a Buddhist. You know, the last play 1:47:47.360 --> 1:47:50.120 the Championship, I think like he wrote he went out, 1:47:50.640 --> 1:47:54.280 last time out, then comes back, and I think he 1:47:54.360 --> 1:47:56.360 wrote this fight it wasn't even a game play, like 1:47:56.400 --> 1:48:00.960 we already locked in. Yeah, you know, he's an amazing coach. 1:48:00.960 --> 1:48:03.519 I don't know how did you keep it real simple? 1:48:03.640 --> 1:48:05.400 And he ain't call on no play age and you 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:10.040 just trust each other every teen ranks? What what? What? What? 1:48:10.560 --> 1:48:12.560 You disappointed when he went to the Knicks and he 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:16.120 couldn't Actually it was a fat check. I wasn't disappointed 1:48:16.560 --> 1:48:18.120 he got You know what I'm saying, I'm like, wow, 1:48:20.200 --> 1:48:21.960 at the end of your career. Nobody's getting that type 1:48:22.000 --> 1:48:23.679 of money at the end of their career. The niggas 1:48:23.920 --> 1:48:26.439 never even got up bad seat. I'm gonna be honest 1:48:26.680 --> 1:48:29.160 as a man. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. Let me 1:48:29.360 --> 1:48:32.800 say so. Yeah, I live in Miami for twelve years, 1:48:33.439 --> 1:48:35.800 but I would never be at Miami nigger. I love 1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:41.559 these guys, but I'm never gonna be at Miami nick 1:48:41.640 --> 1:48:43.960 and they don't never set me as a Miami And 1:48:44.120 --> 1:48:49.680 guess what, it's respect. I respect that. But I go 1:48:49.840 --> 1:48:54.360 to bars where there's like New York Miami people and 1:48:54.439 --> 1:49:00.960 they just go at it. Oh really sports sports, sports, right, 1:49:01.520 --> 1:49:11.840 So I'll sit there. I don't like when Phil came. Yeah, 1:49:11.880 --> 1:49:14.680 I thought we was up. When when they first announced it, 1:49:14.760 --> 1:49:18.760 I was I was happy. Yeah, I'm looking at these 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:25.839 dudes and motherfucking what's the name of what's sunny? Yes, duffies, 1:49:26.439 --> 1:49:29.840 niggas know what I'm talking about how kid you not. 1:49:30.560 --> 1:49:32.960 Every time it's a sports game, it's just New York 1:49:33.080 --> 1:49:36.040 niggas and Miami niggas. They just coming there and they 1:49:36.120 --> 1:49:38.720 had the most beat for that moment, and then she 1:49:38.880 --> 1:49:40.439 was was over to be like, all right, cool Google, 1:49:43.520 --> 1:49:47.160 this is the best fucking experience in the world. Because 1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:50.720 in New York everybody shoots each other after woids, But 1:49:50.920 --> 1:49:53.479 this is duffies. I kid you not. I love this 1:49:53.640 --> 1:49:56.960 fucking spot. And they just go there. I kid you not. 1:49:57.240 --> 1:49:59.880 They go there and it's it's half of it is 1:50:00.080 --> 1:50:04.800 Miami the heat, and then the other happens and they 1:50:04.880 --> 1:50:08.559 just they battle and whoever wins that day, they were 1:50:09.200 --> 1:50:11.400 how are you shots? And they paid for on the 1:50:11.479 --> 1:50:14.080 shots and it's cool. I had never like this is 1:50:14.280 --> 1:50:17.840 this is We're not, you know, moved out here and 1:50:17.960 --> 1:50:22.320 actually you know, like I'm done. That was one of 1:50:22.360 --> 1:50:25.760 the first spots I did that. And when I experienced that, 1:50:27.360 --> 1:50:31.599 I appreciate it so much because in New York, if 1:50:31.640 --> 1:50:37.479 we're battling, it's like an end be buying you a shot. 1:50:39.680 --> 1:50:47.240 I end one of us. But how different was the 1:50:47.320 --> 1:50:51.840 experience because you lived in Indiana? What is the what 1:50:51.960 --> 1:50:54.320 are the places you lived then. I mean I went 1:50:54.400 --> 1:50:58.160 to where I was. That was Chicago. First was you 1:50:58.240 --> 1:51:00.400 with Chief keeping him? Next, I used to be in 1:51:00.400 --> 1:51:03.200 the hood, though I don't Chief Keith is young, so 1:51:03.320 --> 1:51:06.840 like when I was, I would go, I always want 1:51:06.840 --> 1:51:08.280 to go to the hood. Now that I'm older, I 1:51:08.320 --> 1:51:10.160 don't know what I was doing. And Rabit Tailor and 1:51:10.320 --> 1:51:14.519 Combrini Green should have never been, but I was there 1:51:14.520 --> 1:51:20.120 A love yeah, too much. I went to Yeah, I'm 1:51:20.120 --> 1:51:24.360 gonna tell you something I didn't even know Compete Green. Yeah, 1:51:24.400 --> 1:51:26.719 I didn't. I went to Competely Green because I thought 1:51:27.240 --> 1:51:30.880 good times was there. That's what it was. That's what 1:51:31.040 --> 1:51:34.439 good times. But honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you, 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:37.479 I never knew good Times was the hood till I 1:51:37.600 --> 1:51:40.240 was moved outside of the hood. I was like, oh, ship, 1:51:40.320 --> 1:51:44.040 it's only us school like that. So when I went 1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:48.519 to Compete Green, I came out can you not act 1:51:48.680 --> 1:51:52.519 uncle wise? My brother? The police just came and just 1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:58.040 against the one way and one way out Combrini because 1:51:58.120 --> 1:52:02.160 I had maaged your he on. So the police thought 1:52:02.160 --> 1:52:08.200 I was the mind him. Came out the mind him. 1:52:09.000 --> 1:52:11.960 You know, they thought I was that guy. They thought 1:52:12.000 --> 1:52:16.200 I was. They thought they got it. So I'm like, 1:52:16.360 --> 1:52:19.120 this moment, let the gonna search me. The whole hood 1:52:19.320 --> 1:52:21.599 came out, I kid you, that's one I love Chicago. 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:29.360 The whole hood came out. Was like and oh, and 1:52:29.479 --> 1:52:31.800 it was nothing but white people who was searching me. 1:52:31.840 --> 1:52:34.040 So I'm looking at them niggas like, please keep going, 1:52:37.040 --> 1:52:40.719 my nigga. I'm sitting there like my nigga, I'm going down. 1:52:41.040 --> 1:52:43.439 This is before they started killing black niggas. This is 1:52:43.680 --> 1:52:49.160 this is right before. I'm that this once before and 1:52:49.320 --> 1:52:53.800 then and then they finally realized they said, oh, this 1:52:54.439 --> 1:52:56.800 is not even from me here, because they thought I 1:52:57.000 --> 1:53:01.679 was to mind them from the That's how I looked. 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:06.479 And I looked like that town. And the police rolled 1:53:06.520 --> 1:53:10.719 up on me up like part of me said shut 1:53:10.840 --> 1:53:15.120 up because them niggas would have smoked me. Kid, you're 1:53:15.160 --> 1:53:20.599 not and so bring it back. So what I'm trying 1:53:20.600 --> 1:53:25.519 to say is sometimes the hood is actually a poison 1:53:25.640 --> 1:53:30.760 to us because we're so much involved in it that 1:53:31.080 --> 1:53:35.000 when we go back to it, we actually become part 1:53:35.040 --> 1:53:39.920 of what it was. Was that ever problem for you? 1:53:41.240 --> 1:53:44.240 It was? It was it was from like you know, 1:53:44.320 --> 1:53:49.519 the standpoint of sometimes in business. You know. Um, you know, 1:53:49.920 --> 1:53:52.559 we just get into things and we shouldn't beginning into 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:55.880 it right away without researching being able to execute or 1:53:55.920 --> 1:53:58.800 actually executing, or getting out the business when it's too much, 1:53:59.520 --> 1:54:01.880 you know. And I was so being I always wanted 1:54:01.920 --> 1:54:03.799 to make it into music, but I spent like millions 1:54:03.840 --> 1:54:06.280 on that. No, then I'm back. I'm not spending them 1:54:06.280 --> 1:54:08.960 all on that, you know what I'm saying. Um, Then 1:54:09.000 --> 1:54:10.799 I got you know, then I went back to school 1:54:10.800 --> 1:54:12.920 and all that I had to fix, you know, things 1:54:13.000 --> 1:54:18.280 in my life. One why as making so much money? Yeah, 1:54:19.080 --> 1:54:23.040 why would you even think of music doing It's basically 1:54:23.280 --> 1:54:24.720 just how it works when you're an athlete and you 1:54:24.720 --> 1:54:28.599 were getting a music business. Basically you're just a traveling 1:54:28.640 --> 1:54:31.439 show man. You know. Inside Shock shocked it right, but 1:54:31.560 --> 1:54:36.320 you just just back right. He's the only one that 1:54:36.360 --> 1:54:39.160 got a he got he had two plaques to I 1:54:39.200 --> 1:54:41.480 didn't know that, and he was respected and then yeah, 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:45.840 you know, trying to right Shock around. I'm sorry. Yeah, 1:54:46.360 --> 1:54:48.960 one time they hired me and I tried to write 1:54:48.960 --> 1:54:58.040 Shock Run, but he was like, actually food bro. I 1:54:58.080 --> 1:55:00.760 seem to like like two weeks ago, and I ain't 1:55:00.760 --> 1:55:04.720 gonna lie I've seen just grab my hair. Sit damn shack. 1:55:05.160 --> 1:55:09.760 You can't do this. I'm just saying when the nigga 1:55:09.840 --> 1:55:19.680 like his size, I'm like, I'm like, leave much alone. 1:55:20.040 --> 1:55:28.560 It's telling my li Nori, I can't have this picture 1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:37.040 existing or TMZ just too big. Now he does that, 1:55:37.440 --> 1:55:42.360 he does that so crazy. You've done all this in 1:55:42.400 --> 1:55:48.320 to the NBA. You see you see oh people, um 1:55:48.480 --> 1:55:51.600 do what you ever thought about like doing? Like, um, 1:55:52.560 --> 1:55:59.480 what is it? What is they ship called broadcasting? Yeah? 1:56:00.240 --> 1:56:03.880 You is fantastic, But you know I kind of I 1:56:03.960 --> 1:56:07.520 kind of like a commentator comment I want to have 1:56:07.560 --> 1:56:09.120 a T shirt on and a hat, like I don't 1:56:09.160 --> 1:56:10.240 want to do a lot of things where I got. 1:56:10.760 --> 1:56:13.680 Podcasts are good, you know what I'm saying. Like sometimes 1:56:13.720 --> 1:56:15.840 I feel like I gotta always do something. Sometimes I 1:56:15.880 --> 1:56:19.880 just want to come to want to come to podcastcast. 1:56:20.000 --> 1:56:22.960 Yeah yeah, yeah, just be want to chill. You know. 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:26.960 I like dressing up. I don't have to because honestly, 1:56:27.040 --> 1:56:28.480 you know, like wearing a suit to me is like 1:56:28.800 --> 1:56:31.680 you know, um, if you have to wear it, I 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:34.080 feel like it's like almost like oppression, Like you know, 1:56:34.760 --> 1:56:36.800 why do I have to wear a suit? I want 1:56:36.840 --> 1:56:42.040 to coach you like a hoodie. You know, what is 1:56:42.120 --> 1:56:48.040 that something you're interested in coaching? Sweatpants? I would love 1:56:48.080 --> 1:56:51.160 to something like I can coach definitely, you know, but 1:56:51.880 --> 1:56:54.400 but I got opportunity to coach, you know, so like 1:56:54.760 --> 1:56:56.640 you know, I'm having a good time, but I'm coaching 1:56:56.680 --> 1:56:58.800 a bunch of kids. I gotta add, you know, I'm 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:00.920 doing in digital and lytics. I went back to u 1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:03.440 c l A for digital analytics and then I went 1:57:03.520 --> 1:57:06.400 back that was on Mondays at six pm, then Wednesdays 1:57:06.400 --> 1:57:09.200 with social media, and then I will travel to Vancouver 1:57:09.320 --> 1:57:12.480 to take Google analytics. You know. On Saturdays was the 1:57:12.560 --> 1:57:15.440 company was talking about earlier. Yeah, and then on Saturdays 1:57:15.520 --> 1:57:19.080 was Business Business Analytics at Concordia Irvine, JO, Orange County. 1:57:19.480 --> 1:57:21.120 I was just trying to lock in yo, because I 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:23.480 just wasn't you know. I knew like I can get 1:57:23.600 --> 1:57:26.000 in the business. I love investing, but I gotta learn. 1:57:26.080 --> 1:57:29.920 So I had to be aggressive the hell Yeah yeah, 1:57:29.920 --> 1:57:33.000 I had to be aggressive you know, with the with 1:57:33.120 --> 1:57:37.040 the education this side, and I treated just like defense 1:57:37.160 --> 1:57:38.880 and I treated I want to know everything. I want 1:57:38.920 --> 1:57:46.320 to lock it DOWNE that this this is so beautiful, man, 1:57:46.560 --> 1:57:49.560 I ain't gone, I think I had a drink and 1:57:49.600 --> 1:57:52.720 I'm so good man. Yeah, I would like to get 1:57:53.080 --> 1:57:55.640 deep in the art in the artist Foundation, but I 1:57:55.720 --> 1:57:58.240 know that's that's I don't know how that works. But 1:57:59.200 --> 1:58:03.640 I'm honestly I'm chilling, man, I'm chilling your foundation. I 1:58:03.640 --> 1:58:06.000 can tell you. I tell you when. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:58:06.080 --> 1:58:09.280 yeah whatever. Yeah, so yeah, it's um so my I 1:58:09.320 --> 1:58:12.080 guess two foundations. When I first came out the league, 1:58:12.080 --> 1:58:13.720 I was paying for people to go to school because 1:58:13.720 --> 1:58:15.320 somebody paid for me to go to school. So I 1:58:15.400 --> 1:58:16.800 paid for whoever want to go to school, I take 1:58:16.840 --> 1:58:18.760 you go to school. I ain't know nothing about taxes 1:58:18.840 --> 1:58:20.680 or five. I want to see threes. So this is 1:58:20.720 --> 1:58:22.960 just out my pocket, you know. So I was always 1:58:22.960 --> 1:58:26.480 in the charity. And finally I'm like, I wasn't getting 1:58:26.520 --> 1:58:29.280 no tax returns, you know. So I learned about that, 1:58:29.320 --> 1:58:31.520 and then I started getting tax returns and stuff. So 1:58:31.640 --> 1:58:35.080 I started Excel University and I raised like when I 1:58:35.160 --> 1:58:37.640 won the championship, raised like seven dred thousand dollars with 1:58:37.720 --> 1:58:40.280 my ring. Gave all the money to like mental health 1:58:40.360 --> 1:58:46.720 institutions and and uh and for prisons and stuff like 1:58:47.640 --> 1:58:50.480 this is me. I thought, pretty much. Yeah, the whole 1:58:50.600 --> 1:58:53.160 Like somebody somebody said, hey, I'll give you fifty dollars 1:58:53.200 --> 1:58:54.680 for the ring. I'm like, I think I could do 1:58:54.800 --> 1:58:57.280 more with the raffle, and he's like, no, nobody ever know. 1:58:57.440 --> 1:59:00.320 The biggest somebody ever got was fifty five thousand today 1:59:00.400 --> 1:59:02.760 or whatever. So I'll just say two dollars a raffle. 1:59:03.080 --> 1:59:05.640 You know, you pay two dollars all dollar and puffle. 1:59:05.720 --> 1:59:08.280 I actually offer me to fifty. Yeah. I knew I 1:59:08.360 --> 1:59:11.800 was gonna make more, um, and but I made seven 1:59:11.880 --> 1:59:13.480 hundred thousand and three months. I could have made more, 1:59:13.640 --> 1:59:15.720 but I gave all the money away, you know. And 1:59:16.000 --> 1:59:18.880 my dad's doing his foundation now, you know, and um, 1:59:19.080 --> 1:59:22.000 the Artists Foundation, and I'm trying to build like universities. 1:59:22.560 --> 1:59:26.440 There are digital universities, so it's cheaper for people to 1:59:26.680 --> 1:59:28.920 uh go to school and you can still play sports 1:59:29.360 --> 1:59:33.240 still and still generate revenue and still learn, you know, 1:59:33.320 --> 1:59:36.040 because the education is so hard to access, you know 1:59:36.040 --> 1:59:37.880 what I'm saying, So hard to access, especially if you've 1:59:37.960 --> 1:59:39.960 been locked up. Why don't you get left back? You 1:59:40.000 --> 1:59:42.280 know what happens. You get left back, You're gonna get 1:59:43.600 --> 1:59:45.240 you gotta jail. You gonna get let back. You can't 1:59:45.240 --> 1:59:48.880 make you can't make up to take it. You know 1:59:48.880 --> 1:59:50.200 what I'm saying, to take to take you too long 1:59:50.240 --> 1:59:51.920 and make it up, you're not And when you're hungry, 1:59:51.920 --> 1:59:54.400 you can't get educated. You're you're gonna do something stupid, 1:59:55.280 --> 1:59:59.280 you know what I mean. So yeah, so that was it, man, You, 1:59:59.320 --> 2:00:01.640 me and my dad our heads. I got mind. So 2:00:01.960 --> 2:00:06.120 before we leave about it, they act, Yeah, who's the 2:00:06.320 --> 2:00:12.560 hardest player? The hardest player? Man, that's tough. I mean, 2:00:12.720 --> 2:00:18.720 definitely Lebron, Kobe, and Jordan's those three standout. Definitely, even 2:00:18.800 --> 2:00:21.040 Jordan at forty. I remember the moves he would do. 2:00:24.960 --> 2:00:27.240 Jordan and Jordans they can they can't miss a Jordan's 2:00:28.480 --> 2:00:30.960 Kobe have a chance. And it's interest though we're not 2:00:31.040 --> 2:00:35.440 talking far, It's like Lebron Jordan's right there. I just 2:00:35.480 --> 2:00:38.760 feel like Jordan and Jordan was pretty amazing, you know. 2:00:39.040 --> 2:00:43.240 Um yeah, so wait, wait I'm saying I'm saying because 2:00:43.640 --> 2:00:48.600 he just flost on us on us crazy. No, No, 2:00:49.400 --> 2:00:54.440 I think said I said, who the hardest players? That Jordan, Kobe. 2:00:56.040 --> 2:00:58.240 You can't just say no ship like that, just act 2:00:58.320 --> 2:01:02.560 like hold on, hold on. That's three of the topic 2:01:02.760 --> 2:01:07.360 players in the world. The difference of you, Guarden, did 2:01:07.400 --> 2:01:10.920 you have a different therapy, different methods, excuse me of 2:01:11.160 --> 2:01:15.680 guarding different players and this? Yeah, yeah, now you got Yeah. 2:01:16.120 --> 2:01:19.640 So like I wasn't as as I wasn't as athletic 2:01:19.720 --> 2:01:21.800 when you played his Jordan he was in the Wizards, 2:01:21.880 --> 2:01:25.480 he went the Wizards. Kobe he was a Lakers, Lakers 2:01:25.960 --> 2:01:29.120 against the Broad and then a little bit of Miami. 2:01:29.240 --> 2:01:33.440 But by that time you did move. Okay, good, But like, 2:01:33.640 --> 2:01:38.480 so Jordan's more efficient. Start with Jordan Wizards, more efficient. 2:01:39.080 --> 2:01:42.800 He's supposed to be washed up, very strong, you know, 2:01:43.080 --> 2:01:45.640 and gut defense. And then Kobe is more like better 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:49.120 three point shooter, more New York handle type. You know, 2:01:49.560 --> 2:01:54.920 Kobe played way differently. Jordan's just a little more um. 2:01:55.720 --> 2:01:59.920 Paul Pass talked the most trash. Paul talks all the time. 2:02:00.560 --> 2:02:02.560 I didn't really hear much from Jordan, didn't really have 2:02:02.680 --> 2:02:13.960 much from Kobe and Lebron gag. Yeah. So so Jordan did. 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:16.640 Did Jordan talk ship to you? Not? Not really, man, 2:02:16.640 --> 2:02:18.120 because I didn't talk to when I. When I first 2:02:18.200 --> 2:02:21.160 met Jordan, I was nineteen and I was the only 2:02:21.240 --> 2:02:27.080 one that could guard Jordan in the gym, so you know, um, 2:02:27.560 --> 2:02:30.240 he loved when I came. When I would, he would call, 2:02:30.320 --> 2:02:32.680 are you coming back? Because I was the only way 2:02:32.680 --> 2:02:34.200 I pushed him. So they always asked me to come 2:02:34.280 --> 2:02:39.640 to this, to the games. Yeah, I did a I 2:02:39.720 --> 2:02:41.720 a little bit, but I was out of my position, 2:02:41.760 --> 2:02:43.680 but it was nobody. I was still the best friend 2:02:43.720 --> 2:02:44.960 of my team. So I had to go out there 2:02:44.960 --> 2:02:47.600 all right, because nobody else could go out him. You know. 2:02:47.920 --> 2:02:49.520 So I had someone had some good games. That one 2:02:49.600 --> 2:02:51.520 game I had, he had seventeen points, Like that was 2:02:51.600 --> 2:02:52.800 big for me because you know, he was out of 2:02:54.320 --> 2:02:56.240 you know what I was saying, So that's seventeen. I 2:02:56.320 --> 2:02:58.920 felt good about that, you know. And then obviously he 2:02:59.040 --> 2:03:02.200 had games where he had thirty. Yeah, every time, ever, 2:03:02.480 --> 2:03:05.280 it was ever, I'm never gonna end unless you got more. 2:03:06.080 --> 2:03:11.640 I got content. Ever anybody that you felt like, damn, 2:03:11.960 --> 2:03:14.400 I can't cover him. I never want to play against 2:03:14.480 --> 2:03:16.240 him again. There's never nobody I feel like I never 2:03:16.280 --> 2:03:18.200 want to play against. But there's people I knew I 2:03:18.240 --> 2:03:22.320 couldn't win against who like Lebron's definitely one of them, 2:03:22.440 --> 2:03:29.640 Like you know, like to Lebron where Lebron everywhere since 2:03:29.720 --> 2:03:32.400 he first came in the league. Since he first came 2:03:32.440 --> 2:03:35.680 in the league, his first game against me had Now 2:03:35.840 --> 2:03:37.520 I had go games against him, but I'm just saying 2:03:37.560 --> 2:03:39.800 his first game against the best defending the league, he 2:03:39.880 --> 2:03:42.400 has twenty five and he points to Indiana. Were Indiana? 2:03:43.080 --> 2:03:47.840 He says, is this the best defender? You understand? I 2:03:47.920 --> 2:03:54.800 wish I had a gun. I ain't gonna no, no, 2:03:54.960 --> 2:03:57.000 I'm just saying, like you know what I'm saying. It's like, 2:03:57.080 --> 2:04:00.640 you know, I was so mad. He said that, you 2:04:00.720 --> 2:04:10.360 know the game is describe me to this please during 2:04:10.400 --> 2:04:15.640 the game. So this is half time. They actually said, yeah, yeah, 2:04:15.720 --> 2:04:19.120 I was heated, Like you know, this kid just can't 2:04:19.160 --> 2:04:21.880 he would bust. He wasn't bust some my ask, but 2:04:22.000 --> 2:04:25.800 he was. He's efficient. He was doing this thing, did 2:04:25.840 --> 2:04:27.920 this thing. But it was still and I had some 2:04:28.040 --> 2:04:29.840 games like I had one game I had it. He 2:04:29.920 --> 2:04:32.120 had he had no assists. So when you keep him 2:04:32.200 --> 2:04:34.920 no assistance because he was he didn't always want to shoot, 2:04:35.120 --> 2:04:37.960 so like everybody's staying there, man, and he could have 2:04:38.040 --> 2:04:41.440 had forty, but he was trying to pass, so he 2:04:41.480 --> 2:04:42.880 had no says I don't think the only time he 2:04:42.920 --> 2:04:46.800 had no assists in the game. Yeah, and Houston, but 2:04:47.320 --> 2:04:50.320 then I had, I had Sometimes sometimes I want to 2:04:50.440 --> 2:04:52.880 I want to go find that game. I want to go. 2:04:55.160 --> 2:04:58.720 You got you got anything else? Um? Can you say 2:04:59.160 --> 2:05:02.040 dream Big hip Hop? You said dream bake? Yeah? Hell yeah, 2:05:02.040 --> 2:05:04.400 hell yeah? Got out to dream Big hip Hop? Yo? 2:05:04.520 --> 2:05:06.680 What's up as matter? World piece? Shout out the dream 2:05:06.720 --> 2:05:13.200 Big hip Hope? More question your shot before we get out? 2:05:14.080 --> 2:05:17.840 More question? I get one more question? Yeah? Can you 2:05:17.920 --> 2:05:19.640 can you sit down with me and have a little 2:05:19.680 --> 2:05:27.120 piece on my podcast? Yeah, Ustion, You're gonna too far now, 2:05:28.800 --> 2:05:30.520 you know what I honestly, I always want to be 2:05:30.600 --> 2:05:32.320 on Drink Champs. I ain't gonna lie to you. When 2:05:32.360 --> 2:05:35.000 I seen Drinks Champs come out and I didn't get 2:05:35.040 --> 2:05:38.480 the call from the and I was like waiting for you. 2:05:39.280 --> 2:05:41.360 I gotta get on drink And when he hit me up, 2:05:41.720 --> 2:05:45.000 my man hit me up, I'm like, hell yeah, I'm 2:05:45.000 --> 2:05:46.800 going to drink Chat. I was Germaine, We're supposed to 2:05:46.800 --> 2:05:48.840 go to this club right now. I said, yoah, I'm 2:05:48.840 --> 2:05:52.640 going to drink Chat. No, I'm gonna be honest. I 2:05:52.760 --> 2:05:54.840 just want you to know how important you are to 2:05:54.960 --> 2:05:58.120 the hood because a lot of people, and and and 2:05:58.280 --> 2:06:02.200 that's and that's what the art about us being the 2:06:02.200 --> 2:06:05.680 people that are supposed to be successful, and sometimes we 2:06:05.760 --> 2:06:09.400 don't know how important we are to that asset that 2:06:09.480 --> 2:06:15.560 we're attached to. And you, I'm just patting honest with you. 2:06:17.480 --> 2:06:21.280 When they think about music and think about not they 2:06:21.360 --> 2:06:28.720 think about athletics, your number one dude, queens, I don't 2:06:28.720 --> 2:06:32.440 give a fun. Whatever the fun anybody saying you have 2:06:32.560 --> 2:06:39.480 a responsibility. You have responsibility is up lift yourself and 2:06:39.520 --> 2:06:42.400 to continue to be exactly who the funk you are. 2:06:43.960 --> 2:06:48.320 But you're not obligated to that. That's what you're supposed 2:06:48.360 --> 2:06:52.760 to do. You're not obligated. Yeah, what I'm saying, you 2:06:52.920 --> 2:06:55.760 fucking made it, supposed to do it just like I did. 2:06:56.640 --> 2:06:59.400 I'm not supposed to do. But the thing is when 2:06:59.480 --> 2:07:02.960 you do what you what you're doing already, that's what 2:07:03.640 --> 2:07:08.040 makes that. It makes it difference. The reason why we're here, 2:07:08.440 --> 2:07:12.440 that's the reason why all life exists. When we're doing 2:07:12.560 --> 2:07:15.960 what we're supposed to do without us being told to 2:07:16.120 --> 2:07:22.760 do we're supposed to do. And as a person, so 2:07:23.000 --> 2:07:26.600 y'all come up from the beginning. There's no one problem 2:07:28.040 --> 2:07:32.000 in that dream check we see you continue your success 2:07:36.280 --> 2:07:39.920 because I kid you not. I said it. I said 2:07:39.960 --> 2:07:45.560 it on having episode. I have it came here, No, 2:07:47.040 --> 2:07:50.600 I have it came up? No, have it came here? Yeah, yeah, 2:07:51.200 --> 2:07:53.480 two times, but this was the last one. He came 2:07:53.800 --> 2:07:57.880 and I was like, you never seen it happen. You're right, Nori, 2:07:58.360 --> 2:08:02.000 because I've seen you and it was. It was the 2:08:02.080 --> 2:08:06.520 best thing I ever seen in life. Yeah, a strong 2:08:06.680 --> 2:08:10.080 black man trained another strong black man to be a 2:08:10.280 --> 2:08:17.520 strong black man. That was hard, Bronna, be honest, because 2:08:18.600 --> 2:08:20.520 all of us we come from the hood and none 2:08:20.560 --> 2:08:26.880 of us have a father. That's another I mean I 2:08:27.200 --> 2:08:29.040 had a father. That's why I felt like I was rich. 2:08:29.920 --> 2:08:34.760 I didn't have no money, but my father present, I 2:08:34.920 --> 2:08:38.720 felt rich. And when I seen that and I see 2:08:38.720 --> 2:08:43.840 what your that was crazy to me personally, and I 2:08:43.960 --> 2:08:47.040 have to salute. That's really saving you see me, your 2:08:47.080 --> 2:08:49.080 father was there, he felt rich. That's that's you know, 2:08:49.200 --> 2:08:52.240 it's true, It's true. That's why we do what we do. 2:08:53.120 --> 2:08:56.040 We do. We do it absolutely. Get me over there, 2:08:56.560 --> 2:09:04.480 God damn it. We'll think Somna take a drop and 2:09:04.560 --> 2:09:07.000 that's it. You're f