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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Happy holidays,

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Speaker 1: Whips Marties. As we get toward the end of this year,

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Speaker 1: I've really been thinking about this community that we all share,

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Speaker 1: in the stories we get to share, and I really

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Speaker 1: of a year ending and inspiring. And that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: so thrilled today to be joined by two women I

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Speaker 1: admire so so much, the incredible Karen Pittman and Claire

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Speaker 1: Babineau Fontanelle. You probably know Karen Pittman because she is

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Speaker 1: a wildly accomplished actress in television, film, and theater. She

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Speaker 1: stars as Mia Jordan on Apple's award winning The Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: She also plays doctor Niah Wallace on Max's And just

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Speaker 1: Claire Babino Fontino. She is the chief executive officer of

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Speaker 1: Feeding America, America's largest organization combating food insecurity. They run

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Speaker 1: under her incredible guidance, the organization has reached new milestones

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Speaker 1: in addressing domestic food insecurity. And as you'll hear from

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Speaker 1: And the work that she does to serve communities is

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Speaker 1: so exemplary and so impressive to me, and also exemplary

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Speaker 1: So let's dive in and be inspired about what it

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Speaker 1: means to build community and show up for each other

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Speaker 1: with Karen and Claire. Karen, Claire, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on Work in Progress today. I just need

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Speaker 1: to I'm going to put I'm going to take off

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Speaker 1: my interviewer hat and like allow my fangirl freak flag

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Speaker 1: and I'll put my interviewer hat back on. But Karen Pittman,

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Speaker 1: I am obsessed with you. I'm assessed with everything you do.

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Speaker 1: You are just so unbelievable. I am the Morning Show's

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Speaker 1: biggest fan. And then I could run obviously the laundry

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Speaker 1: list of your entire resume, but I will save that

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Speaker 1: for the intro to this episode. Uh and Claire, my god,

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Speaker 1: the work that you do at Feeding America, you your

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Speaker 1: around them. You are a rock star to me. So

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Speaker 1: to be here with a literal rock star of activism

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Speaker 1: are here also to talk about doing good. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: of course, you are, of course you perfect people. So okay,

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Speaker 1: I've told you that I adore you both, and now

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Speaker 2: Let's not keep it buttoned up for God's sake, Okay? Agree?

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, we might have to compete

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Speaker 2: over who, in fact is the biggest fan for Karen.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to just focus on the things we can

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Speaker 1: How about the world needs more of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so?

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Speaker 1: So Yes, great, I think so. We are the co

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Speaker 1: chairs of the Karen Pittman Fan Club. Welcome to our

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Speaker 2: I like how you did that? Thank you God you guys.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the American incredible work they're doing, so

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Speaker 1: Likewise, so normally, what I love to do with folks,

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Speaker 1: I agree amazing, And Karen, what about for you?

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Speaker 3: But it also makes a lot of sense that I

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed by this. I appreciate that you would use

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Speaker 2: But we have volunteered together. You know how to pack

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Speaker 3: Well, we started out the conversation, Sophia talking about common

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Speaker 1: I love that. And you know, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: to you, that's that's for you. That's for your artistry. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Mmm, that's beautiful, Karen. What was it? What was it

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Speaker 2: Nobody.

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Speaker 3: I love that you getting the word out for us

437
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: right here by the way. But for me, it's important

438
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Speaker 3: just to do it, you know, for myself, or that

439
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: my children often will go with me when I I volunteer.

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00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: But to reach back to.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry to reach back for.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, we're all crying now.

443
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Speaker 3: Sorry, Sorry to reach back for that Karen. I'm talking

444
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: about reaching back for that nine ten year old telf.

445
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Speaker 3: To reach back for that Karen who brought her grocery

446
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: cart to that church instead of what a courageous, what

447
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: an important, courageous thing she was doing for her family,

448
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: And to reach back for her and to hold her

449
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: close to me is what I do every time I

450
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: go to a facility and stand in line and pack food.

451
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: It's really selfish in a lot of ways because it

452
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Speaker 3: reminds me and reinforces in me that the courage that

453
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Speaker 3: I displayed in those moments was not just for.

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Speaker 2: Me, but for my children for everyone, but they needed

455
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Speaker 2: me in that moment.

456
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Speaker 3: And this is a these are these are the moments

457
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Speaker 3: where you know, the rubber meets the road.

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Speaker 1: I think for and it's why I think that a

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Speaker 1: storyteller that is as brilliant as you are on screen,

460
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: that does walk through the world today as this woman

461
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: with accolades, can particularly be such an incredible advocate because

462
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: you bring your full empathy to the conversation. And I

463
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: when you just told that story, like I see my

464
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: mother and you, I see a girl who ate butter

465
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Speaker 1: sandwiches for a lot of her childhood because there was

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Speaker 1: nothing else to eat in her house. I know how

467
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: I felt the first time a woman in our industry

468
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: shared her story with me, and it led all of

469
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: us to share our stories in me too. I know

470
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Speaker 1: whatever we have carried shame or fear about the truth

471
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: is that shame doesn't grow in the light. And you

472
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: bringing to light your personal story alongside you know, it's

473
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Speaker 1: your iteration of each of us knowing what four hundred

474
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: dollars means in our house. It's the personalization of six

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Speaker 1: billion meals.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's very much, it's exactly, but it makes it

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Speaker 3: the most individual.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the number of women I imagine who've heard

479
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Speaker 1: your story and then say, I don't need to feel

480
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: shame here. I can actually take this feeling of fear

481
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: and go to an organization like this, one like Claire's

482
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Speaker 1: and feel health. Howard, No, it's going to be okay.

483
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: We know that there's people looking out for me. It's

484
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: it's an enormous national organization and it's also the most

485
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Speaker 1: one to one personal thing that people can do for

486
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Speaker 1: each other. So I just anyway, now I'm going to cry.

487
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I so cherish what you ladies are doing.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm the only one who's in between tears

489
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: at this moment. But I've got to tell you how

490
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: profound this conversation has been for me. And I want

491
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: to stand up and give a standing ovation to all

492
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: three Karens and to the Karen that you're going to be,

493
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: that you're becoming, because you're not even done right, and

494
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: then as well to talk about your mom and the

495
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: way you did it. Remember, I had an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: In my role.

497
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: We were talking about doing some kind of OpEd and

498
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: talking to some people on the Feeding America team about

499
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: what that could look like and feel like. But I

500
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: remember having this moment, and it was with a different

501
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: remarkable supporter and star who works with Feeding America, Scarlett Johansson,

502
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Speaker 2: and Scarlett has our own story, and I remember having

503
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Speaker 2: an epiphany that I think I know what I want

504
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: this to be. And I was so grateful that that

505
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Speaker 2: Scarlett could see it and that we could both embrace it.

506
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Speaker 2: And it was this idea of a love letter. So

507
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: we did this open letter in the USA today and

508
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: it was a love letter to parents who live with

509
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Speaker 2: food and skills, and it was to celebrate who they

510
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: are and their resiliency and their courage and their bravery

511
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: the way that they, as hard as me, make it

512
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Speaker 2: in our society to be in the status of being

513
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Speaker 2: while on the one hand, we love to think of

514
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Speaker 2: ourselves as the rags to richest culture, you know kind

515
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Speaker 2: of place, but we actually don't want to talk about

516
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Speaker 2: the rags.

517
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Speaker 1: We just like the richest part, which.

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Speaker 3: Don't give me the richest, honey, don't tell there came

519
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: the riches, right, But but there's always a process for

520
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: getting there, and we do get the chance, many of

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Speaker 3: us uh to get there, and all of us who

522
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Speaker 3: are participating right now got that chance.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to say that as you were talking,

524
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking a salute to the Karen taking the salute

525
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Speaker 2: to your mom. What's your mom's name. I don't know

526
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Speaker 2: your mom's name. Oh, my mom's Willie, Willie Ray, she's passed.

527
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: And what about your mom making butter sandwiches, Maureen Mareene, Well,

528
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: salute to marine. Listen. I've had a butter sandwich. That's

529
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: that's not a bad sandwich.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you it's not.

531
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Speaker 2: But it's not. But but you don't want to have

532
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Speaker 2: it every day?

533
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Speaker 1: Not every day.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you on that subject that we

535
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: were talking about processed foods earlier and and and we

536
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: have had a movement to uh, there's a there's a

537
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Speaker 2: stereotype related to the kinds of foods that people get

538
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: in the Feeding American network. And some of those foods

539
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: are in fact shelf stable and sometimes are in cans,

540
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: for instance. And sometimes that's true because many of our

541
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Speaker 2: partners don't have access to refrigeration. So what we do

542
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: as a national organization is we find ways to get funding,

543
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: and then we pass that funding down into local communities

544
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Speaker 2: and make certain that that little teeny weeny uh church

545
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: basement pantry gets refrigeration so they can then share nutrition,

546
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: lead and foods. But over time, now over seventy percent

547
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: of the foods that we provide us a network our

548
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: Foods to Encourage. So I'm proud of that. We're getting better, better,

549
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: We're getting better and better at it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a minute after a few

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Speaker 1: words from our favorite sponsors, Claire, Can I ask you,

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00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: can you can you explain for folks at home that

553
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: are like, wait, what does that mean? Foods to encourage?

554
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: How how does an organization that, yes, is doing the

555
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: incredible community based service work of food, how do you

556
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: also look at the science of food, the data of food,

557
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: because that's that's got to be a big important part

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: of your mission.

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00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: It's a huge important part of our mission. We care

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: what we what we provide, and people experiencing hunger care

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Speaker 2: what they get. Yeah, and they ought to have some

562
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: agency in what they get, by the way, so we

563
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: do focus in on how can we make certain that

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: there is significant nutritional density and the food that we provide.

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00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: So someone else came up with the definition of foods encouraged,

566
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: like somebody else came up with the definition of food

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00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: and security. But essentially it would be foods that have

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Speaker 2: nutritional density that would be important to a thriving body, right,

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Speaker 2: And seventy percent of our foods, over seventy percent meet

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Speaker 2: that measure. So I'm proud of that fact. And there's

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Speaker 2: more work to be done there. Although I will say,

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Speaker 2: it's so interesting how I had found in my own

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Speaker 2: life it's inside of struggle that I usually have had.

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Speaker 2: Some of my best bonding has happened in struggle. And

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Speaker 2: then there's this common language that you get and common

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00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: experiences that you have inside of struggle. And you were

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Speaker 2: talking about sandwiches to this day, and I know that

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00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: it is not nutritionally done. So for anyone who's gonna

579
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Speaker 2: watch or listen, understand that.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: If you're like, please don't come for me in the comments.

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Speaker 2: This is not this is not a food to encourage.

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00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: This is not a food to encourage. But government cheese.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I had yet to meet a person

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Speaker 2: who whose family access the federal commodities who does not

586
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: have stories about government cheese. And it's a binding story,

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's oh, how did you do it? Like

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: where I'm from in Appolusa's Louisiana, South central Louisiana. We

589
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: had a lot of fig trees, so and my mom

590
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: had to be skilled in canning foods, so she can figs. Right.

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00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: So we had like a fig preserve, which by the way,

592
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: is very expensive in regular stores, was not expensive at

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Speaker 2: all to can, right, So we had can can figs

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Speaker 2: and we would take our We take two slices of bread,

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Speaker 2: we put some government cheese, thick slice of government cheese

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Speaker 2: on top, put it inside of the oven, let it

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: start bubbling, and then put some big pursers on top

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00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: of it and eat it as a sandwich. I did

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Speaker 2: not feel I was settling when I was eating delicious.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I would like a well open

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Speaker 1: face right now.

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00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been in New York and in l a

603
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: and I've been at restaurants and they come out with

604
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: brushett or whatever, and I'm like, this is looking like

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: my government cheese sandwich because that was breaking in. They'll

606
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: sprinkle in a few walnuts, right yeah, and then and

607
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: some apples and now you're.

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Speaker 1: Set and and poof, then it's a Christine cross exactly.

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00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: There you go, it's a Christini exactly. So but I

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00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: want to I want to mention that because it's true.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing is why it would be that

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Speaker 2: I would I would want to participate in celebrating people

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Speaker 2: experiencing the most innovative, creative, make a way out of

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00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: no way, resilient human beings I've ever been in my life,

615
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: hard working, dedicated, full human beings I've ever met in

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Speaker 2: my life are people living in poverty, people experiencing food

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Speaker 2: and security. And that is so emblematic in my mind

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Speaker 2: of how you take something that by itself probably doesn't

619
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Speaker 2: feel like the best thing, but then you put everything

620
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: you got into making it something that tastes great. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's amazing, right, And you don't have to pay nearly

622
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: as much to get those government cheese sandwiches with preserves

623
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Speaker 2: as you would in some of these fancy restaurants. But

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Speaker 2: it's so emblematic, as I said, and I'm proud of

625
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: the work that we do. Something else that your conversation

626
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: caused me to think about that I thought maybe I

627
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: jump in with as well, is how well. Two other

628
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: things that came up. One of them is I think

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Speaker 2: it was Karen who talked about this transcends politics, no

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Speaker 2: matter who you are, no matter where you are are,

631
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: on the spectrum, whether you self describe as a conservative

632
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: or self described as a progressive, or somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Over the course of the last several years, that will

634
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: have been moments that will have caused you to question

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Speaker 2: the goodness of this country. And I'm so grateful and

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Speaker 2: I feel so privileged that that's something I don't question

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00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: because I have Karen out there on both coasts. But

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Speaker 2: I've been to all fifty states and Puerto Rico, and

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Speaker 2: no matter what state I went to, even in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a global health pandemic, when you do remember

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: there was a time when you turn on the television

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Speaker 2: and it was actually a scroll that would identify how

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Speaker 2: many people died of coping. Even in the midst of that,

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Speaker 2: there were people who left their homes volunteered to make

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: sure that neighbors have the food that they need. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it happened everywhere, every single state across the whole

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Speaker 2: United States. I have no doubt that we have good

648
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 2: inside of us. I have no doubt that we do good.

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Speaker 2: And this is one of those kinds of causes. Well,

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Speaker 2: no matter what it is that you care about, you

651
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: should probably also care about hunger because people probably can't

652
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: get whatever that thing is without it. So you care

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Speaker 2: about education, people can't without nutrition, you know, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and ladies as partners for good. Yes, Well, first

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Speaker 1: I should respond to say, of course this is a

657
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Speaker 1: transcendent issue, and I would be remiss to not acknowledge

658
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Speaker 1: that I am very scared for food and secure folks.

659
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Speaker 1: With the incoming administration that you know, ended the child

660
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Speaker 1: tax credits, you know in the House that took fifty

661
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Speaker 1: percent of American children living in poverty out, and then

662
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Speaker 1: they decided they didn't want one side to have that win,

663
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Speaker 1: so they ended it. And now we've got you know,

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Speaker 1: billionaires talking about cutting chips and cutting food security programs

665
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Speaker 1: and you know, cutting the sorts of resources that are

666
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Speaker 1: supposed to be our social safety net that do create

667
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Speaker 1: those bonding conversations for adults who get to say, oh,

668
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Speaker 1: how did you do it when that was your family

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Speaker 1: with you know, that package that came. How how do you,

670
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Speaker 1: as you know, both the head of our largest food

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Speaker 1: organization and Karen, how do you as a spokesperson who

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Speaker 1: I would imagine is on an awful lot of these

673
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Speaker 1: you know, big board and organizing calls. How are you

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Speaker 1: preparing folks who need assistance for I won't say the guarantee,

675
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Speaker 1: but the you know, the threat that the programs will

676
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Speaker 1: be further cut. How do you begin to prepare to

677
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Speaker 1: respond and tell people out there who are probably terrified, Hey,

678
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Speaker 1: we got you, Hey we have a plan. How do

679
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Speaker 1: how do how does an organization of this size prepare

680
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Speaker 1: to be nimble in the face of political change? Because

681
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Speaker 1: it should be and is an a political issue, but

682
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Speaker 1: we know it won't be treated as such necessarily. I'm

683
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Speaker 1: curious how you make sense of that.

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Speaker 2: It's actually remarkable that this is one of the very

685
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Speaker 2: few issues that we have consistently gotten bipartisan support for. Okay, right, So,

686
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Speaker 2: in the in the last Trump administration, when the trade

687
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Speaker 2: mitigation foods were out there with the tariffs, remember that

688
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: that had a significant impact on American farmers, burst producers,

689
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Speaker 2: the beneficiaries of all of that extra food or people

690
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Speaker 2: experiencing hunger. I mean they ended up distributing. We as

691
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Speaker 2: a network, in fact, were the principal ones who got

692
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Speaker 2: that food out to people, some beautifully nutritionally dense food, protein, dairy,

693
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Speaker 2: fresh vegetables. Those things happened and now there. And then

694
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Speaker 2: the other thing we talked about the child tax credit.

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Speaker 2: I heard the President elects say that he plans to

696
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Speaker 2: restore the child tax credit. I heard the Vice president

697
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Speaker 2: say that she planned to restore the child tax credit.

698
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Speaker 2: When you have a tool that reduces child poverty by

699
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Speaker 2: nearly you have over forty percent really going to use

700
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Speaker 2: that tool. So we're not giving up? Is so answered

701
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Speaker 2: the question first, we are so far from dn it.

702
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Speaker 2: We are going to go wow, advocate through the things

703
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Speaker 2: that people experiencing hunger say that they need to thrive.

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Speaker 2: We're going to make arguments that we consider compelling around

705
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Speaker 2: law everybody, why everybody should want this, no matter what

706
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Speaker 2: their politics. So as an example, we were talking about

707
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Speaker 2: what effectively talking about what hunger looks like in America.

708
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Speaker 2: It looks like you, and it looks like me. Bi plurality.

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Speaker 2: The largest number of people who experience hunger in this

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Speaker 2: country are white. Inordinately black and brown people experiences experience hunger,

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Speaker 2: But there is no group of people. It's not it's

712
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Speaker 2: just an urban issue. It is not just an urbane

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Speaker 2: and it is an urban issue, and it's a suburban issue,

714
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Speaker 2: and it's a rural issue. As well. So we're hopeful

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Speaker 2: and planful. Hope is not a plan. Hope is not

716
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Speaker 2: a plan, but you need hope to be planful, I think.

717
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Speaker 2: So we're hopeful and planful around how it is that

718
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Speaker 2: we're going to address these things. And then when I

719
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Speaker 2: get a chance like this one, and I'm in the

720
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Speaker 2: company people like the two of you, my desire is

721
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Speaker 2: for people to come to us so they can go

722
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: to Feeding America dot org and and if they there's

723
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Speaker 2: a food bank locator on that website, and all I

724
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Speaker 2: have to do is type in there, there's zip code,

725
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Speaker 2: and what will pop up is the local organization that

726
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Speaker 2: is there, committed and dedicated to serving their needs. And

727
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Speaker 2: we will go up with them and for them. We

728
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Speaker 2: always have since our inception, and we always will. Yeah,

729
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Speaker 2: there's a little thing I say, if you don't mind,

730
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Speaker 2: I talk about the difference between how we stand. So

731
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Speaker 2: some organizations are bipartisan, we are not bipartisan. A bipartisan organization,

732
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Speaker 2: I think, often finds self reduced to the lowest common

733
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Speaker 2: denominator on things. We are non partisan. We touch tens

734
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Speaker 2: of millions of people every year. We have an opportunity

735
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Speaker 2: to ask them, who are you what would be helpful?

736
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Speaker 2: Why are you in the line? In that line, and

737
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Speaker 2: then we respond to that with our policies, the policies

738
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Speaker 2: that we remove, and the way I often say it is,

739
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Speaker 2: I I don't care what you call yourself. If you

740
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Speaker 2: are inclined to be helpful to people experiencing hunger, as

741
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Speaker 2: they have expressed what help looks like, then come and

742
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Speaker 2: join us, because we don't plan to move. We're going

743
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Speaker 2: to stand right next to them, right and I don't

744
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Speaker 2: again say you're a Republican. Wonderful Come on, if you

745
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Speaker 2: are willing to want to be a part of this

746
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Speaker 2: thing that they say that they need in order to thrive,

747
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Speaker 2: or if you're progressive or anything in between. We don't

748
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Speaker 2: plan to move away from from people experiencing hunger in

749
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Speaker 2: any administration, and with that as our true north, we

750
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Speaker 2: will find it to make certain that they get what

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Speaker 2: they need always.

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Speaker 3: I also think that there's this this idea. I think

753
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Speaker 3: every time we experience something like as much political and

754
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Speaker 3: social unrest as we have, that is the idea that

755
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Speaker 3: it's the first time we've ever experienced it. But the

756
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: truth of the matter is that Feeding America has been

757
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Speaker 3: around for decades like this is not the first.

758
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Speaker 2: Time in America that we have thought, how are we

759
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Speaker 2: going to make it through this?

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Speaker 3: Because it feels like our political that we are so

761
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Speaker 3: disparate politically as a group of citizens. How do we

762
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Speaker 3: make this thing work? And for me, I, you know,

763
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Speaker 3: I harken back to this thing my former mother in

764
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Speaker 3: law would say about has said, which is the cabalistic

765
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Speaker 3: or Jewish idea of benevolence, of leaning.

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Speaker 2: Into each other and leaning into the.

767
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Speaker 3: Glue between us as as human beings that keeps us together.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: And so for me, I Leen, as a human being

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Speaker 3: and as an actor and as an activist, I lean

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Speaker 3: into the I lean into the areas again that common ground,

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Speaker 3: but also the glue that hold together, which the Jewish

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Speaker 3: religion refers to as has said, and we don't do

774
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Speaker 3: enough of that. I think that's where benevolence is, That's

775
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Speaker 3: where generosity is. That's where that thing that Claire talks

776
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Speaker 3: about hope is.

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Speaker 2: We're optimism. It's leaning into.

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Speaker 3: Those spaces with our our our fellow citizens.

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Speaker 2: And also into organizations like Feeding America. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: it not doesn't matter the administration that is in office.

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Speaker 3: Feeding America is there has been there doesn't It really

782
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It has been needed. And so what I hope is

784
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Speaker 2: that that.

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Speaker 3: You know, by leaning into these organizations that are here

786
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Speaker 3: for us as Americans feeding America, that will we'll find

787
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Speaker 3: ways we can come together right in what we really

788
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Speaker 3: need to do.

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Speaker 1: And now for our sponsors, I so appreciate both of

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Speaker 1: your perspectives on that, because you know, we take a

791
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Speaker 1: lot of questions here. You know, at the podcast, we've

792
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: got a great production team that's in touch with our

793
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Speaker 1: listeners a lot, and there is a lot of fear.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've been going through everybody's are inboxes and

795
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Speaker 1: it's why I was really excited to ask you to

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Speaker 1: that question in particular because I think you know, people

797
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Speaker 1: will see on the news, well, this party torpedoed something

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Speaker 1: that was great for kids because they didn't want the

799
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Speaker 1: opposing party to have a win. That's a hard pill

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Speaker 1: for the American public to swallow. It's certainly a hard

801
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Speaker 1: pill for me to swallow. And I know for both

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Speaker 1: of you, and I think what you've both just shared

803
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: is so important because you've reminded people that no matter

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Speaker 1: what fighting people might be having, you know, for their

805
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: political points so they can go on the news and

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00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: say sassy things across the aisle. Y'all are doing the work.

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Speaker 1: No matter what the work happens. The work happens in community.

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Speaker 1: We have each other, no matter who has a seat

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Speaker 1: in Washington. And it's really really important, I think, as

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Speaker 1: you said, to remind people of the hope and that

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Speaker 1: that hope can be reinforced because you have a plan

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Speaker 1: and that plan doesn't change, and that I feel myself

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Speaker 1: taking a deep breath, and I can guarantee y'all that

814
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Speaker 1: there are people listening to us right now going oh,

815
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Speaker 1: thank God, like I really needed that. I needed to

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Speaker 1: know that, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well. When my son was little, I remember he came

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Speaker 2: to me, it's very little. I have a daughter, his son,

819
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Speaker 2: and my son was explaining how much he admired someone

820
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Speaker 2: and he said, because that person was brave, and there

821
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Speaker 2: may be someone who listens who says, Claire, that was

822
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Speaker 2: the wrong thing to say to your son, but he said,

823
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Speaker 2: And I said, oh my, and I thought that was

824
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Speaker 2: a sophisticated word for him so little. And he said,

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Speaker 2: I said, so what's bravery and he said, it's when

826
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Speaker 2: you're not scared. And I thought, really, well, then the

827
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Speaker 2: person you're describing is foolish. And he looks at me

828
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Speaker 2: with his eyes wide open. He says, huh, And I go, well,

829
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Speaker 2: there are things to be afraid of. Bravery is to

830
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Speaker 2: know they're a risk and to do the thing that

831
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Speaker 2: needs to be done anyway. So if your listeners feel

832
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Speaker 2: angst concerned, there's reason to feel mean. But then what

833
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Speaker 2: are you going to do with that? But you're just

834
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Speaker 2: going to sit and some people, well can't get over it,

835
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Speaker 2: and they can't they there's nothing they can do, or

836
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Speaker 2: they feel like there's nothing they can do. I've talked

837
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Speaker 2: to the people on our team at Feeding American Ascent

838
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Speaker 2: well rarefied air we breathe here that in the midst

839
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Speaker 2: of all of this, you don't have to question whether

840
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Speaker 2: you can be helpful. Your job positions you to be helpful. Yeah,

841
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: we get to pull our sleeves up and do the

842
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Speaker 2: things right, and that's that's It's just such. It feels

843
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: like a privilege. It feels like a privilege. Yeah, there's that.

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Speaker 3: There's that extraordinary phrase that you mentioned that Claiar, we

845
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Speaker 3: must be honey cousins, because because I've heard this phrase

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Speaker 3: throughout my life. That make up that seven workers make away,

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Speaker 3: no Way, make away, no way to know, which is

848
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Speaker 3: this sort of it's a mission statement, of course, it's

849
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Speaker 3: a mantra, it's an affirmation that's that we're talking about

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Speaker 3: kurage and bravery and what that looks like. But as

851
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Speaker 3: i've which word, I've realized that that that it's of course,

852
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Speaker 3: it's something you a touchtone for us to connect to.

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Speaker 3: Certainly as African Americans, we hear about all the time

854
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Speaker 3: in our own.

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Speaker 2: Way out of no way.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she made a way out of no way to

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Speaker 3: you know, But the truth of the matter is that

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Speaker 3: that's not that's not really true.

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Speaker 2: There there there is a.

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Speaker 1: That no way way is.

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Speaker 2: Actually Feeding America.

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00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: Right. The other organization that you can connect to actually

863
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Speaker 3: helps that.

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Speaker 2: Idea, I think is now I feel like it's almost

865
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Speaker 2: entirely false. It's this way of you.

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Speaker 3: Know, trying to create this superhero energy, this black girl,

867
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Speaker 3: this you know, this idea that we are invincible, we can.

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Speaker 2: Do it on our own. The truth of the matter

869
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: is that we need each other.

870
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: That yeah, and that no way is actually you know,

871
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: organizations like Feeding America or another organization I support City

872
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: Harvest or another. All the organizations that are here have

873
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: been here for decades of time that fill in the

874
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: gaps for it. It does want my heart that when

875
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: you are on your list, you mentioned Feeding America and

876
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: then you mission City Harvest, which is a Feeding America

877
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: food bank. I'm just saying, but there also are other

878
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: powerful organizations start doing extraordinary things. And in my own

879
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 3: story around my own food and security, it was a

880
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: Salvation arn't me?

881
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I with my tail between my legs, my

882
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: head down first to graduate. You know, we didn't graduate.

883
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: My parents didn't graduate high school. My grandparents didn't even

884
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: go to school, formal school. And there I was, and

885
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, they're counting on me. I'm

886
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: supposed to be the rock star, right, don't. I don't

887
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: get to not be able to put two pennies together

888
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: to eat what I've got to do. And it's the

889
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: counter to a success story that my I think my

890
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: parents were counting on me being one of the ones

891
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 2: who would be able to make it on my own,

892
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: and there I was unable, and I my again, head down,

893
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: tail between my legs, went to the Salvation Army on

894
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: Airline Highway and back rouge Louisiana. I was in college

895
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: law school at the time. This lady walks up to me,

896
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: and I sheep sheepishly walk with her over to her cube,

897
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: her desk, and she's she Then she just, baby, you

898
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: need help. I can still hear her. I can hear

899
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: her today. You need help. I remember still heads down saying,

900
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: head down, saying yes, ma'am. She said, well, baby, I'm

901
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 2: going to help you. And then she proceeded to help me. Yeah.

902
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: And she gave me food stamps and and I went

903
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: and used those food stamps. And I'm grateful that I

904
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: didn't have to go back. But I had no food,

905
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: I had no money, I had no guess I didn't

906
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: make a way out of no way. Karen, thank you

907
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: so much that I made a way and we made

908
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: a way together.

909
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: Because I think, I think also that that thing of

910
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: that sigma, that shame. Oh, I've got an education and

911
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm the first I can do this. I did to

912
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: really understand that, you know, we.

913
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: Need each other.

914
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: Yes, it doesn't matter how much education you have, or

915
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: how much money you have or I up in the.

916
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: Whatever. We need each other.

917
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: Yes, And that is that is uh inherent to the

918
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: human again, no matter your religion or a political party

919
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 3: or wherever, we're going to meet each other.

920
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: And that's I think.

921
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: The real the real power of places organizations like Feeding

922
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: America where we where we can see reflected very clearly.

923
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors that I really

924
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: enjoy and I think you will too. And when you

925
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: talk about that, both of you, you know, no way

926
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: is actually the organizations that can pick you up. That

927
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: the imagery I keep having is of you know that

928
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: adage a rising tide lifts all ships. It's in community

929
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: that we become the tide. Right, Everybody at some point

930
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: needs to be picked up, no matter how big their

931
00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: boat is, and and organizations like this one are the tide.

932
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: So thank you, I mean truly thank you both so

933
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: much for what you do. Thank you for sharing such

934
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: incredibly personal stories. I hope that everyone at home is

935
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: as moved as I feel. I hope that, as Claire said,

936
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: folks visit Feeding America dot org figure out how to volunteer.

937
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: How how I'm curious about this because I have a

938
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: lot of friends with young kids, a lot of sweet

939
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: little babies in my life. How old can kids be

940
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: to come in and volunteer with their families. Is there

941
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: an age limit or how does that work for you?

942
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: All? It ends upon what the activation is great, and

943
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: what the food bank is or the pantry. But there

944
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: are kinds of activations that little tea, we little ones

945
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: can great. Then and then sometimes you're in a big

946
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: warehouse and they're forklifts moving around, so it would be

947
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: it would feel unsafe. But one of my favorite places

948
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: that I've seen kids volunteers in Orange County, they have

949
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: quite quite a group of child volunteers and they work

950
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: on a farm and they don't do this intense labor

951
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: on the farm, but they participate in the process of

952
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: ensuring that something grows and that the thing that grows

953
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: provides nourishment and it is so beautiful to witness. So

954
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: it really depends. But what I can tell, you've got

955
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: a teenager, We've got we've got some work for that

956
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: teenager in all of these spaces.

957
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you said you take your kids, and

958
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: I just think, I think to let kids grow up

959
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: in service and grow up understanding the value of community

960
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: is so important. So I'm thrilled to hear that. You know,

961
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: depending on the activity, kids of all ages are welcome.

962
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids all volunteered, gave out Halloween candy.

963
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: My kids were at in activation, My daughter and I

964
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: were passing out foods at a project in Queens.

965
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: My son was in Brooklyn the City Harvest and we were.

966
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, passing out food. There is to put it

967
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: in your family, to make public service a part of

968
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: not just civic duty, but a part of how we

969
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: live our lives. I think so so powerful. It really

970
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: puts into perspective that the priority priority in our lives

971
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: is really being in service to each other, from from

972
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: cradle to grave, from cradle to grave. And and that's

973
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: something that we have to teach our children about. We

974
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: have to raise them to understand that they're not just

975
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: living for themselves.

976
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: Right, and the giver will receive right, So they're going

977
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: to get stuff out of it. And often it's one

978
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: of their biggest issues with their parents is that they

979
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: have no agency. Right. They're like, you tell me everything

980
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,479
Speaker 2: to do and how to do it and all those things.

981
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: And there's something so beautiful and powerful about being around

982
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: you when they're volunteering. And and you know, I also

983
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: recommend to people who are going to have their children

984
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: be in service that you not use it as a penalty. Well,

985
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: you don't seem to understand how good you've got it.

986
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: So I'm about to take you with me so you

987
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: can see, and then you're gonna have to it's it's

988
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: a it's a privilege to serve. Yes, So we know

989
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: how to amp things up for kids. We know how

990
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: to say, guess what we get to do today. Oh

991
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: my goodness, we're going to get a chance to get

992
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: our hands dirty because we're going to work in the

993
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: community on the community farm. You're going to get to

994
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 2: taste carrots and I won't even make you wash them

995
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: as they're organic. You know, you do it. You know

996
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: people how to do hype games, so you don't do it.

997
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: And then there are things that I when my kids

998
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: were getting at a point, and now they're both adults,

999
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: but when they're getting at a point, we're in the

1000
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: back of my mind, I was thinking, huh, you're feeling

1001
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: a little seeming a little smug to me. Rather than

1002
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: tell it to them, I'd say, hey, you know, we'd

1003
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: get a chance to go by X place to volunteer.

1004
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: I love it. I think you do such a great

1005
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: job there. I love it. If you came with me,

1006
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: I know you'll make a big impact. And then they

1007
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: come and then at least for a little while, at

1008
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: least for the ride home, and then not complaining about

1009
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: foolishness in my car, right whereas on the way going

1010
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: they were complaining about foolishness. So it is a powerful,

1011
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: powerful thing to instill in the young people that.

1012
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: You're surrounded, or in my case with my children who

1013
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: have been deeply emotionally and psychologically affected by the pandemic,

1014
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: a way to pull them out of sadness or or

1015
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 3: lack of engagement or apathy about what they're dealing with

1016
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: personally is to bring to a volunteer space.

1017
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: So the energy almost instantly.

1018
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: Changes you, right, Claire, You walk into any facility where

1019
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: people are about the business of packing, or you know,

1020
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: in the back they're having pour in their cup of

1021
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: coffee and about getting ready to do the thing that

1022
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: we're all there to do, which is to empower and

1023
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: support people. Instantly, the cellular makeup changes and you're not

1024
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: so into your.

1025
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: Own Immediately you come out of that and my children

1026
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 4: deal with, you know, the changes that happen with them emotionally,

1027
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 4: just as teenagers.

1028
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: Is to take them to see that there's more to

1029
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: this world than just what they're feeling. What they're going through.

1030
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: It's a temporary situation. Uh, let's do something to pull

1031
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 3: ourselves out of it. And uh it does the same

1032
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: thing you know for me in my life.

1033
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, the way to help lift them up is

1034
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, lift them up to Karen, we

1035
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: usually have some good music.

1036
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, plays up tempo to talk to me about what

1037
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: is the vibe here?

1038
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: What are we going to be doing a little classic

1039
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: rock or motown? And there's there are a couple of

1040
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: food banks that inside of the warehouse they have disco balls,

1041
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: particular in California, disco ball when when you meet a

1042
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: particular milestone at that food bank, like you're you're going

1043
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: to try to pack three thousand pounds of onions, you know,

1044
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. When you meet a milestone, they

1045
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: turn the lights off, they turn on the disco ball, Yes,

1046
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: and they play the music for Why MCA and everybody

1047
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: stops and start dancing to Why. Oh it's it's a blast.

1048
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: So it's fun too. It's usually high energy, a lot

1049
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: of fun.

1050
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. It's always exciting to tell

1051
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: people where you give your time, where you donate your time,

1052
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: where you show up for others, it will be the

1053
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: best time you've had. As you said, the giver receives.

1054
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: And what I also love about you know, talking about

1055
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: young people and teenagers volunteering is what it says to

1056
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: me is they will learn that it is such a

1057
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: gift to help others and that they are also allowed

1058
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: to ask for help. These these are the sort of

1059
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: symbiotic experiences and relationships that I think are healing for

1060
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: people on both ends. Are are teachable times, moments, experiences

1061
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: for people on both ends. And that's part of why

1062
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: I think that community is so important for us as people.

1063
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you said it, Karen. It gets you out

1064
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: of your your own stuff and reminds you of the

1065
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: best parts of being a human. And so from the

1066
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: enormous organizational undertaking of you know, six point seven billion

1067
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: meals to the disco party when the onions are packed,

1068
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: where like you know, you're high five in your neighbors

1069
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, it's such a beautiful organization to

1070
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: learn more about. And so I really appreciate both of

1071
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: you sharing your stories. It doesn't have to necessarily be

1072
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: about the work. It can be. But my favorite question,

1073
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: my favorite final question to ask everyone who comes on

1074
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: the show is this, which is as you look out

1075
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: at the year ahead, maybe even more special because we're

1076
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: about to enter an actual new year, what feels like

1077
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: your work in progress? And that can be you know,

1078
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: for you is women, it can be for feeding America,

1079
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: it can be for both.

1080
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm from small agricultural town in south central Louisiana, which

1081
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: used to be famed as the sweet Potato capital of

1082
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: the world. I envision spending a lot more time with

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Speaker 2: farmers and on farms. One of the myths out there

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Speaker 2: about the work that we do is that somehow farmers

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01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: are on one side and answer how your organizations are

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01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: on another site. We have to work together and it's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. So I'm planning to get my hands

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Speaker 2: dirty and soil over the course of the next year

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Speaker 2: to learn more about also learn more about dairy farming.

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Speaker 2: I want to be a much better partner for farmers,

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Speaker 2: growers and producers coming into the next year. I think

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Speaker 2: that starts with seeing them. So I'm planning to have

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: my eyes open a bit wider in that space in

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Speaker 2: the year to come. Beautiful, Yeah, I think that it's

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 2: such a good question.

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Speaker 3: I think finding uh the most meaningful stories to align

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: myself with, and uh being the author of some of

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Speaker 3: those stories, not necessarily.

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,440
Speaker 2: Having the public.

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: Be an audience to it, but my children being do

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 3: a meaningful story amount. Not everything can be monetized, Not

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 3: everything needs to have a dollar sign next to it.

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Speaker 2: As far as the work that we do as a

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Speaker 2: person as.

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Speaker 3: Artists, some of those things need to remain in the

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 3: in the co in the bubble, or in the space

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: that is just our family, and those are those are

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: some of the most meaningful stories to share.

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: But also to find incredible women like Claire and my

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Speaker 2: I mean this incredible unique position.

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: Being around all these women who are doing so much

1112
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Speaker 3: important work not just for the world, but also as women.

1113
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: What true power looks like now in this inclusive world

1114
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,440
Speaker 3: that we live in, what real diversity, what real equity

1115
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: looks like, and examining the systems that we've put in place,

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Speaker 3: how we are empowering.

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Speaker 2: Each other as women.

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Speaker 3: It's great, it's a great joy to be acting alongside

1119
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 3: Jen and Reeese and and to be the Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: But there's also a great gift in watching people like

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Speaker 3: Claire and jin and reading and you know, me, Me

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: and all these women do it because we are We

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Speaker 3: are a good distance from the hashtag me to movement,

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: and we are a good distance from the incredible political

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Speaker 3: unrest of twenty twenty and the death of George Floyd

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Speaker 3: and how it affected our organizations and our corporations. And

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Speaker 3: you know what, way, when the dust is settled, what

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: are we what are we actually doing now? And how

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: are we in response and not into reaction to all

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: this incredible information that we now know about the world

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: that we live in. And so my goal is to

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Speaker 3: tell the most meaningful stories in that way, and to

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: author some of those stories and and.

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Speaker 2: And find partners to.

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Speaker 3: Do it with, and to continue my work with Feeding America.

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Speaker 2: And that's my work. Those are my works in progress.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What about you? Yeah? Can we turn that fable here?

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Speaker 2: We all need to to turn the table, do we? Yes? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think similarly to both of you, it's

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: lean into community always. It's be the tide to make

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: sure that, no matter how filled with strife the world

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: seems to be, that we are doing this together. I

1145
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: really do believe in the power of the ripple effect.

1146
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, if everybody drops a positive stone in the water,

1147
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: look what happens to the water. And I'm really I'm

1148
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: into the water today for some reason, these are all

1149
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: my metaphors. And then I think, much much like you're saying, Karen,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is my first year in my career

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: that I have not been attached to a show, and

1152
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: it's so surreal in the best way, you know, I've

1153
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: been able to sign on to films and go out

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: and see and in a way, even though I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this for twenty years, I kind of feel like

1156
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: a brand new actor. And I'm so excited to find

1157
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: the next right thing for myself in an environment that

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Speaker 1: I hope is much like the one you're referring to

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Speaker 1: with Mimi and Jen and Reese and yourself. And I

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Speaker 1: want the next things to be in cohort with amazing,

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: brilliant women that are so fun to be around at

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: work and who I learn from and learn with and

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: who want to make the world a better place. Like

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Speaker 1: it's groups of women like this that I mostly exclusively

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 1: would like to be in. So that is my request

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Speaker 1: to the universe for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You're going to get it. You're gonna get it.

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 3: There is a great joy in exploring what a power

1169
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: dynamic looks like outside of our internalized experience of the patriarchy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's a great joy in just.

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: Exploring it and experimenting with it and saying that I

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Speaker 3: don't have to do it that way. And I think

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Speaker 3: the only place I've really been able to take advantage

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: of it is in spaces where women run the show.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that looks like. I wish that for you too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. May it be so it shall be all

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Speaker 1: of it for us, ladies.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go, Come on twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: and let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both so much for joining me today. Thank

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: you for the beauty that you put out in the

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Speaker 1: world with your work. I really appreciate each of you.

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Speaker 2: Great way to end twenty twenty four. Thank you Claire

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: for being here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm always excited. I got it. I

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Speaker 2: caught it. Yes,