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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, let's talk about Mars. Is it our manifest destiny

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Speaker 2: to go to Mars? Or is our escape plan when

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Speaker 2: we screw up this planet? Which one?

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Speaker 1: Is it? No?

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's Humanity should be everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I mean meaning I think that the Solar System. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people when they think of the Solar System,

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Speaker 3: they think of it as just nine planets and a

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Speaker 3: couple of moons. It's there's actually more than a million

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Speaker 3: objects in the Solar System and our Solar System alone,

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Speaker 3: and some moons have or some planets have more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred moons. And so with Mars, Mars is like

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Speaker 3: the rest stop to the rest of the galaxy. And

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Speaker 3: people talk about the Moon a lot. But if we

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Speaker 3: can't when we get some Mars, it's not even if

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Speaker 3: when we get some Mars and Elon Musk likely will

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Speaker 3: go there before twenty thirty three according to his latest

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Speaker 3: public comments and SpaceX what they're planning for. But it's

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Speaker 3: how we get some Mars and being able to when

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Speaker 3: we're there, be able to get fuel on that planet

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Speaker 3: so that we don't have to bring the fuel there.

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Speaker 3: That's what is the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 2: So there is fuel available on that planet that we

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Speaker 2: can somehow make spaceship worthy.

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Speaker 3: There's technology available that we can create energy on that

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Speaker 3: planet to then come back and if and that is

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Speaker 3: the game changer. It's just never been done before. So

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Speaker 3: Alon Musk said, I think it was this week, if

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Speaker 3: not definitely in the last ten days, that when he

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Speaker 3: goes to Mars, they're going to send humanoid robots. And

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Speaker 3: I think he said publicly he did say publicly, think

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Speaker 3: of the image that that'll that that'll be when we

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Speaker 3: touch down on Mars with humanoid robots, and then the

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Speaker 3: next step is to then, you know, bring humans. There's

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Speaker 3: actually a new development that came that just found that

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Speaker 3: there's a shortcut to Mars. Because of the solar and

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Speaker 3: the way that the planets are and the and the

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Speaker 3: orbit and everything, there's a window to that could get

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Speaker 3: us there with existing technology and I think three to

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Speaker 3: four months, which is crazy, crazy, crazy fast. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: So we could turn Mars into a rest stop. That's

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Speaker 3: that's what I tell people when I when I talk

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Speaker 3: about it, when I've been reporting on this, the scientists

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Speaker 3: and the technologist.

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Speaker 2: They they view Mars.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to call it a gas station, but

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Speaker 3: a rest stop to be able.

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Speaker 2: To go to all their places of the milky ways.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much pretty much.

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Speaker 2: And should we terraform it or I mean great.

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Speaker 3: I love this topic, this is I think terraforming. There's

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Speaker 3: a debate in the scientific community. I get so excited

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Speaker 3: when I talk about this. I geek out on this.

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Speaker 3: But there's a debate in the scientific community right now

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Speaker 3: about if terraforming Mars is you know, humans altering and

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Speaker 3: it's not our place to change a planet, or if

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Speaker 3: it's that's the negative side of it, or if you're

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Speaker 3: for terraforming Mars, that is set Actually we're restoring it,

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Speaker 3: and we are taking a planet. If you've ever seen

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Speaker 3: an old beat up house and then it's a fixer

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Speaker 3: upper almost, and you go and you restore it because

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Speaker 3: the science indicates that, you know, millions of years ago,

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Speaker 3: Mars looked a lot different. There might have been oceans

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Speaker 3: on it. There could have been it, you know, candidly,

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Speaker 3: probably did look very different. And if we're restoring it

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Speaker 3: back to what it looked like that that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I believe in that. I'll be honest, My bias is

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Speaker 3: that I think that humans will be able to take

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Speaker 3: care of Planet Earth as well as other parts of

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Speaker 3: the Solar System if we are able to look at

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Speaker 3: and explore different parts of the Solar System, because the

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Speaker 3: properties and the rules and the way that gravity works,

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Speaker 3: for example, on different planets, and air works, and you know,

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Speaker 3: if we're able to create air so that you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have to wear a spacesuit, all those topics, that science

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Speaker 3: is just going to make life for humans way more better.

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Speaker 2: I would argue we're talking to futurists. Kevin surreally, all

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Speaker 2: his information is linked up at coast to coast A

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Speaker 2: m talking about the future, and I'm kind of wondering

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Speaker 2: as you're talking, I'm kind of sizing us up as

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Speaker 2: America against other countries. Is it like the Moon race.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do that in quotes there. Whoever gets

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Speaker 2: kind of like the we're we're just evolving, we should

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a great question. I mean, America

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Speaker 3: is definitely the number one space force, right now, but

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Speaker 3: China and Russia are catching up. Last month, I interviewed

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Speaker 3: at the National Press Club in DC, and Major Gagnon,

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Speaker 3: and he and I asked him, you know, what do

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Speaker 3: you want people to know about the work that you do,

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Speaker 3: And he said that China and Russia are a real

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Speaker 3: threat in outer space. And if you're listening, you might

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Speaker 3: be thinking to yourself, Okay, well, what do I care

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Speaker 3: about outer space? The average American interacts with space more

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Speaker 3: about every device, even you and I, I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: are able, the Communist Party of China are able to

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Speaker 3: go up to these satellites and hack into our communication systems,

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Speaker 3: that's a huge problem. But then you talk about things

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Speaker 3: not just from a human standpoint, but space weather and sunstorms.

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Speaker 3: There was a huge sunstorm in the last seven days

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Speaker 3: that actually people talk about the Aurora lights, but it

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Speaker 3: took out some satellites and mess up some communications. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't a major disaster by any means. I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that's a that's an ongoing

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Speaker 2: conversation here on coast to coast, A MR. What what

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Speaker 2: what solar flare is going to take us out? Because

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's coming at some point. I think about

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Speaker 3: The time, because there was the there was the last

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Speaker 3: major sunstorm there was one was in the eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 3: so we're kind of due for one. But this and

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Speaker 3: and but the difference between now and the eighteen hundreds

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Speaker 3: would that would work? That would you know, arguably the

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Speaker 3: but it's the reality. I think a lot about asteroids,

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Speaker 3: And you know, we just learned in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: This is never on the news either, by the way,

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Speaker 3: artificial intelligence that's developing in quantum that's coming after that

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Speaker 3: just to be able to map our own solar system.

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Speaker 2: Well what about that? What about just mapping the weather

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Speaker 2: of the Sun. Is there any is I guess that's

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Speaker 2: more important now than ever. In the eighteen hundreds, you

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Speaker 2: But now do we have a way? Is there an

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Speaker 2: and know when a flar's coming up?

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Speaker 3: Well, the government has a lot of you know, I

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Speaker 3: like to say, I'd love to be the al Roker

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Speaker 3: aurora lights, and it's because of what's happening in the sunstorm.

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Speaker 3: But the good news is that I don't when people

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Speaker 3: hear sunstorm they think of I think they think of,

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Speaker 3: you know, a doomsday situation. That's not really what happens.

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Speaker 3: It's it's you can't really see the flares, but the

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Speaker 3: energy travels to the planet and then our atmosphere is

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Speaker 3: actually able to protect us from a lot of these

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Speaker 3: things that are happening our planet. Candidly, I'm Catholic, but

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Speaker 3: it was almost designed to protect us, and so you

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Speaker 2: I think your your website's one of those things that

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Speaker 2: people should should keep meet the future dot TV we

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Speaker 2: should say, linked up at coast I think it's one

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Speaker 2: of those things that you should almost look at every day,

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Speaker 2: because thank you, you're kind of getting a little glimpse.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like a day or so ahead. And wasn't

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Speaker 2: I seeing even on your website that the Sun was

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Speaker 2: you kind of alluded to that. But that's sort of

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Speaker 3: No, exactly, And and and even just you know, China's

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Speaker 3: I again, I'm just stunned that the traditional media doesn't

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Speaker 3: hundred moons that were just discovered this year alone in

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Speaker 3: more than one hundred moons just floating around other planets?

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, well, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I think is so fascinating about that too, is how

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Speaker 3: the scientists are studying the parts of the Moon that

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Speaker 3: would be the most the most applicable to modern life,

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Speaker 3: for where they would be able to mine, where they

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Speaker 3: Earth minerals, but rare Moon minerals for lack of a

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Speaker 3: the Moon is so incredibly important because obviously whoever has

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Speaker 3: the proper domain and geography on the Moon will have

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Speaker 3: a lot of advantages, not just for influence on the Moon,

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