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Speaker 1: It is ste Gotson Company is real good eras at

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Speaker 1: studio with me Taylor in the VIP room, Mikeya on

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Speaker 1: the zoom here. Mike Golick is good to join us

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Speaker 1: in just a little bit. Chris Long will join us

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Speaker 1: today as well. The Buffalo Bills. Let me restate that

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has hired a new head coach and his

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Speaker 1: name is Joe Brady. Is he your thoughts here? Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady hired Today the offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: gets promoted to the head coach.

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Speaker 3: It's just funny to get rid of their head coach.

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Speaker 1: And not really have a plan in place other than

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Speaker 1: to have Josh Allen talk to Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: At his current OC and then promote that guy to

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Speaker 3: the head coach. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Here I couldn't help but think of your other team,

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Speaker 4: one of your other teams. Did you guess which one?

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Speaker 3: The Jets, the Mets, No, the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: It is all right because when they got rid of

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Speaker 4: the Butcher.

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Speaker 3: It was going to be Islanders that was next, by

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Speaker 3: the way, But uh okay, it was at a time

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Speaker 3: that followed great success by Nick standards.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and given the other moves that they made, which

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Speaker 4: were not many, right, just some peripheral stuff, it made

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Speaker 4: you say, hey, they're clearly saying it was Tom Thibodeau's fault.

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Speaker 4: He somehow, despite us getting further than we've been in

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Speaker 4: a generation, were held back because of him. Right, And

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Speaker 4: so when you look at this situation, all right, so

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Speaker 4: you get rid of your coach who had made the

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Speaker 4: playoffs Sean McDermott in eight of nine seasons, yep, if

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Speaker 4: not for Patrick Mahomes, maybe has a pair of super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's a big Maybe, it's a big maybe.

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Speaker 4: But in the same way that you just saw ram

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Speaker 4: Seahawks and said that was the super Bowl. When you

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Speaker 4: watched that gave a few years back between Chiefs and

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Speaker 4: Bills and Chiefs come back with thirteen seconds left, you

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Speaker 4: were like, that was a damn super Bowl right there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the Bills would have gone on to

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Speaker 4: at least win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Right, But it's the same feeling you had watching the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game this year.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, right, just said that a little second ago.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't listening.

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Speaker 4: I use a team name, so it's probably confusing.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't listening because Taylor was saying, in my headset,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're on the right Wi Fi system, and

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Speaker 1: I told him I was, and don't bother me again

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Speaker 1: in show.

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Speaker 4: So now Sean McDermott is being looked at, so you

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Speaker 4: look at the whole landscape. Okay, they didn't really change.

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Speaker 4: They didn't change a GM at all. They promoted him.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't his fault, certainly not Josh Allen's fault. You

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Speaker 4: saw him crying. He's he's a guy that everybody loved.

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Speaker 4: We can't blame him. It was strictly not even the

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. It wasn't Joe Brady's fault. It was strictly

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott's fault with whatever he did from I guess

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Speaker 4: Tuesday to Sunday and at whatever head coaches do from

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Speaker 4: just had to get rid of him. And when you say, okay,

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Speaker 4: maybe they just needed a different voice, Oh no, it's

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Speaker 4: a different same voice. It's the offensive coordinator. It's the

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Speaker 4: same group of people. So unless you bring in I

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Speaker 4: don't know, the greatest orator in the history of NFL coaching,

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Speaker 4: with just this amazing speech giving ability and this great organizer,

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Speaker 4: what have you changed. You've changed nothing, but somehow that's

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Speaker 4: gonna make you a Super Bowl team. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it as well. I don't get it

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Speaker 1: as well. It's a strange hire to me. If you're

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Speaker 1: you just kind of laid out there with Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: you should be hiring someone outside the organization. They keep

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Speaker 1: someone who was Sean McDermott's offensive coordinator and essentially his

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Speaker 1: that Josh Allen has talked to more over the last

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Speaker 1: seven or eight years, that Sean McDermott, it's just an

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Speaker 1: odd hire. It seems like they had no plan whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: It makes you look like you're just tweaking the situation

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Speaker 4: when really the one move you're making is the head coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and so you're changing that, but it's not really a change.

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Speaker 4: It's just somebody taking a slight step up. If you're

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Speaker 4: saying that whatever we've been doing around here for all

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Speaker 4: these years, because it's not a small sample size nine years,

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Speaker 4: whatever we're doing here somehow is holding us back. Oh,

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Speaker 4: we've indicated it was just that guy and nobody else,

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Speaker 4: and so you could say, oh, the hiring cycle forced

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Speaker 4: us to do this whatever. Then then he wasn't that

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Speaker 4: big of a problem, Sean McDermott, and you were probably

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Speaker 5: All they did was take two and give them all.

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Speaker 3: Right, we can't hear Mikey. Mikey is he is? Make

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Speaker 3: sure Mikey's on the right WiFi, Taylor, and don't worry

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Speaker 3: about me. How about that.

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Speaker 4: It's a very slow drum procession following him around everywhere

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Speaker 4: he goes.

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Speaker 1: And now he's so mad, he's so upset because he

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Speaker 1: now he can't because it's clitchy.

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Speaker 4: He's very clitchy.

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Speaker 3: I'm not eighty seven seven ninety nine on fire somehow

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Speaker 3: not doing anything but doing everything at the same time, Taylor,

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Speaker 3: you guys were laughing.

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Speaker 1: It's just listen. It's a strange hire. I'm not certain

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Speaker 1: it fixes anything. But who knows. Joe Brady on the

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Speaker 1: Bowl and he'll get all the credit and Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: will get nut. But it is a strange straight hired.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you. Had they lost the week before,

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Speaker 1: with Joe Shade and the Giants, John Harbaugh, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: would be the head coach of the Buffalo Bills today.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that I really did somehow right.

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Speaker 4: Vrabel Mike Vrabel of the Patriots keeps winning all week long.

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Speaker 4: Not only is he getting to the Super Bowl, look

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Speaker 4: at the rest of his division that he's walking back

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Speaker 4: to next year. Buffalo builds what's their big upgrade? Oh,

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Speaker 4: their offensive coordinators now they're head coach Miami Dolphins. Is

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Speaker 4: it hal Flee or half Lee? Nobody knows because it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter. In New York Jets, they just fired their

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Speaker 4: they have to fill both coordinator jobs. And it's like, wow,

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Speaker 4: are you just handing the division to Mike Vrabel for

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Speaker 1: Yes, they are. Mikey A is back. I'm told he

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Speaker 1: is connected correctly. Do you want to say what you

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Speaker 1: were going to say about a minute ago.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little afraid to. I'm hoping you guys could

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Speaker 6: But all they did was take two guys in their

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Speaker 6: and they said, oh, go be the president. And they

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Speaker 5: Now go be the head America and call play.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that is classic America. Here's an amazing thing

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Speaker 1: about it. From that loss to guys got a promotion,

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Speaker 1: one guy got fired.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It is what is Buffalo doing. They promoted their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: promoted their general manager. They've all been a part of

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Speaker 3: that makes it to the playoffs, they just don't make

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Speaker 3: it far enough once they're in the postseason. But it's

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Speaker 3: laugh out loud funny that their plan was to get

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Speaker 3: rid of the head coach and replace them with an

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator who's never been a head coach. Everyone gets promotions. Coach,

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Speaker 3: you're fired, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Damn, I got a second, And it's funny to be

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Speaker 4: where you think about like, these people presumably if they

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Speaker 4: continue to work together, would be friends, acquaintances, would hang out,

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Speaker 4: maybe have dinner at the other's place. Yes, there's no

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Speaker 4: way these people are talking again. I think Sean McDermott

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Speaker 4: just be like, hey guys, everything's normal.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Taylor put it on the poll. Will Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: and Joe Brady ever have dinner again?

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Speaker 4: And it's not even their fault, it's some owner giving

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Speaker 4: him a position. He's like, well, I ken never talked

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Speaker 4: to Sean again.

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Speaker 7: Joe Brady just essentially slit Sean McDermott's throat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, knowingly, yes, but he's not gonna not take the

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Speaker 7: But it was strange listening to Terry Pegoula's press conference

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Speaker 7: The entire offensive coaching staff pushed us. And what happens

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Speaker 7: a week later you hire your head coach from said

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Speaker 4: Well, the head of that coaching staff, the head of

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Speaker 4: test saying hey, that key On Coleman, guy unstoppable, it

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Speaker 4: staff but the offensive coordinator? You made us draft that guy.

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Speaker 4: We hate that guy. You're promoted.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, hey, voice is a good thing,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a new voice. It's the same old

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Speaker 1: boys talking into Josh Allen's headset.

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Speaker 4: I did see a video of Keyon Coleman not knowing

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Speaker 4: how to sign a contract, so maybe they probably should

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Speaker 1: Brian Daball now is the offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: He wanted that head coaching job. He doesn't get it

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Speaker 1: because Josh Allen gave it to his friend Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: gave him a promotion.

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Speaker 3: That's what he did. And you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think they're never having dinner again. They're not exchanging

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Speaker 3: I think all these relationships inside the Buffalo Bills organization

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Speaker 4: If they have kids, one of those teenage kids is

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Speaker 4: getting a Burner account just to mock the current head coach,

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Speaker 4: Joe Brady. It's just the two families. They're at war.

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Speaker 1: Now, does Joe Brady have a kid, because if he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: when he does have one, he's gonna name Hi Josh.

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Speaker 3: I mean tom even if it's a girl. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how about that?

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Speaker 4: I think Tommy might be the way to go there,

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Speaker 4: you think, so Brady?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to live up to you know, Taylor. What were

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Speaker 3: you guys telling me?

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Speaker 1: You and Mikey a were laughing over a tweet from

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Speaker 1: our friend Diana Rossini. What did she have to say

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Speaker 1: here on X she sent something out. You guys were

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Diana Russini was was tweeting about the Jets. Mikey,

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Speaker 7: do you have the tweet pulled up? Because Stu got

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Speaker 7: just put me in such a terrible spot there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I don't think I know it even without

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Speaker 3: I don't want to stay tuned. I've been staying tuned

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Speaker 4: Here's the plan. Ready, We're gonna wait till everybody else

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Speaker 1: Yep, but hey, they have a plan. Uh yeah, but

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Speaker 1: It's never a plan that works. I'm certain they have

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Speaker 4: It's that these days when you hear fan, you think

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Speaker 3: Who cares? You're a Heat fan, man?

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, there are certain organizations where you just

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Speaker 4: You you've got to He doesn't look like he wants

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Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore? Are we done? Do we have our four yet?

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Speaker 7: The fourth since nineteen sixty nine, right, So this Mount

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Speaker 4: He's my friend, your friend who was very nervous. He

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Speaker 4: That's got to make it feel bad for your friend,

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Speaker 3: Never having dinner again ever.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company

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Speaker 2: Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific on

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Speaker 1: That can come up with a top five reasons as

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Speaker 1: This is a crazy coaching carousel, and your thoughts today

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Speaker 8: his career, he's zeroing four and he's been outscored one

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Speaker 8: twenty three to twenty three in those games.

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Speaker 5: Mike, Well, I mean not not really.

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Speaker 8: I know those are with different teams too, right, So

443
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Speaker 8: I mean I I don't really put a lot of

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Speaker 8: stock into things where it's not the same team playing

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Speaker 8: those times.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't.

447
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Speaker 8: I don't put a lot into it. No, new He's

448
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Speaker 8: got a new head coach, new offensive coordinator, playing a

449
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Speaker 8: different New England team with a new head coach, So no,

450
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Speaker 8: I don't really put a whole lot into that.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing for me, at least with Rabel. We

453
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Speaker 1: were just talking to Chris Long about this. I think

454
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Speaker 1: it's such an amazing quality to have. Mike Rabel has

455
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Speaker 1: the ability to make every single player on that team

456
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Speaker 1: feel like they have a unique relationship with Mike Rabel.

457
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Speaker 1: And Chris Long was saying how the small things like

458
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Speaker 1: him waiting for every player before he goes into the

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Speaker 1: locker room. When you have a coach who makes the players,

460
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Speaker 1: the players are not just playing for themselves with a team,

461
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Speaker 1: they're playing for that coach. To not let that coach down.

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Speaker 1: For me, that's as powerful thing as you can have

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Speaker 1: in that sport.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard not to instantly respect a guy who

465
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Speaker 8: won Super Bowl for that team that he's coaching, and

466
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Speaker 8: now he's coaching that team and so you got you

467
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Speaker 8: get instant credibility.

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Speaker 5: But what supersedes everything is winning.

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Speaker 8: Because every coach tries to sell his team something right,

470
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Speaker 8: and if you're not winning, then the sell job is

471
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Speaker 8: kind of worthless. You can continue to sell it, but

472
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Speaker 8: if you're not winning, what players are buying it.

473
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Speaker 5: But what he's selling is producing wins.

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Speaker 8: So that just builds the confidence in the players that say, Okay,

475
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Speaker 8: what he's selling is buying. It's like Dan Campbell, you know,

476
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Speaker 8: turning around Detroit players were buying what he was selling

477
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Speaker 8: and they were winning.

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Speaker 5: You know, now they're winning in New England and we talked.

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Speaker 8: I talked to a few of the Patriot players during

480
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Speaker 8: the last week and the word that they say is

481
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Speaker 8: use the most in the building is accountability. And that's

482
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Speaker 8: what Mike Vrabel preaches. Accountability. Be accountable to yourself, be

483
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Speaker 8: accountable to your teammate, do your job, take care of

484
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Speaker 8: your responsibility. They were one of the cleanest teams out

485
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Speaker 8: there right, I think tied for sixth on the regular

486
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Speaker 8: season with the least amount of penalties. Now, they didn't

487
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Speaker 8: get a ton of takeaways as a defense, but they

488
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Speaker 8: played good, solid defense and offense. They're not a big play,

489
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Speaker 8: big strike team. They're just a solid team with a

490
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Speaker 8: lot of great continuity.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And yet Tennessee tried to convince us that Rabel was

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Speaker 3: the problem.

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Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, how dumb do they look terrible? Right?

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Speaker 3: They had the best go to the NFL. It's like

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Speaker 3: us having Sam Donald, they had Mike Rabel. Yeah, ah.

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Speaker 5: My Sam Donald's story.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it is great. What's the worst weather in terms

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Speaker 3: of weather? The worst game you played it?

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Speaker 8: Well, there was I played in the ninety three when

501
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Speaker 8: I was with the Dolphins. We played in Dallas and

502
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Speaker 8: there was a ton of snow. That was a game

503
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Speaker 8: where we had a chip shot field goal to win it.

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Speaker 5: It was blocked past the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 8: That's when leon let sliding in to think he had

506
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Speaker 8: to recover it, and he.

507
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Speaker 5: Didn't and he touched it. It was a fumble.

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Speaker 8: We recovered, we kicked another chip shot field goal because

509
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Speaker 8: we got possession back, and we won the game. Interestingly enough,

510
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Speaker 8: that was the last game we won that season, and

511
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Speaker 8: I think it was the last game Dallas lost, as

512
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Speaker 8: they went on to win the Super Bowl that year.

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Speaker 8: But that, snow wise, was probably the worst game. I

514
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Speaker 8: played in a real muddy game at USC one year

515
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Speaker 8: I was at Notre Dame where it was like ankle

516
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Speaker 8: deep mud. So I played in a few bad weather games, but.

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Speaker 1: Those games at the VET, right, those had to be

518
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Speaker 1: terrible because the surface of that field was so hard.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, Mike.

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Speaker 8: I've kind of blocked out the games at the VET,

521
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Speaker 8: even though I played.

522
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Speaker 5: A ton of them.

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Speaker 8: There were dangerous when you play on a field where

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Speaker 8: before every game, visiting team files a grievance with the

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Speaker 8: with the players Association in the league before the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that.

527
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Speaker 5: Stuff was horrid.

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Speaker 8: And then when it was cold, You're right, I don't

529
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Speaker 8: know how it was harder, but it was even harder.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, it was brutal.

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Speaker 3: Playing at the VET was worse for you than smoking cigarettes.

532
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Speaker 3: I'm not even joking.

533
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, worse for your health.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, without that should have been a surgeon's general warning

535
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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 5: Very true.

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Speaker 3: That field, man, it was great, horrible.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So you're good without doors?

539
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Speaker 3: You don't mind it. You want to know, I have.

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Speaker 8: No I have no problem at all without doors. Again,

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Speaker 8: that's what you get home field for. That's why you

542
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Speaker 8: you you want to get the number one seed or

543
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Speaker 8: even the number two seed. It depends on you know,

544
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Speaker 8: where you have to play or whatever. But yeah, I

545
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Speaker 8: have zero problem with playing in weather.

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Speaker 7: Mike, Drake May has been pretty underwhelming by by his

547
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Speaker 7: own standards this playoffs, but I thought one of the

548
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Speaker 7: best players from that game was the game ceiling run.

549
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Speaker 7: On the third and five, Josh McDaniels calls a run

550
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Speaker 7: play for Ramandre Stevenson. Drake May keeps the ball without

551
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Speaker 7: telling any of his linemen that he's gonna keep it.

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Speaker 5: He makes the winning play.

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Speaker 7: What have you seen from Drake May and just the

554
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Speaker 7: level of confidence that he kind of brings to this

555
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Speaker 7: Patriot team even when he's not playing, you know, his

556
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Speaker 7: best ball well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the good thing about him is in today's football,

558
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Speaker 8: you know, the mobility of the quarterback is almost not

559
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Speaker 8: as important, but almost as important as their arm.

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Speaker 5: And he did.

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Speaker 8: Listen, he did it with his legs this game especially,

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Speaker 8: he didn't have a great game, I mean, ten to

563
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Speaker 8: twenty one under fifty percent, but that second half, like

564
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Speaker 8: I said, the offenses were muted, but he got it

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Speaker 8: done with his legs. Ten runs for sixty five yards,

566
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Speaker 8: some big runs. He would notice if there was man

567
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Speaker 8: coverage or if coverage was on the other side of

568
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Speaker 8: the field, if routes took it that way, if it

569
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Speaker 8: was open, and he would take off. You know, he's

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Speaker 8: dangerous with his legs going into that game and the

571
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Speaker 8: regular season, I should say he scrambled for twenty seven

572
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Speaker 8: first downs. That's the most of any other quarterback. So

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Speaker 8: he could get it done with his legs. And that's

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Speaker 8: that's so damning for a defense when you have coverage

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Speaker 8: or and you even get a decent rush, but the

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Speaker 8: quarterback escapes and is able to run for a first

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Speaker 8: down and move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: Mike, what do you love the most about the Sam

579
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Speaker 1: Donald story? Because I know you love these kind of stories.

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Speaker 5: You know, just that.

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Speaker 8: It took a fifth team, and it took what his

582
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Speaker 8: eighth year or whatever it was, eighth year for him too,

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Speaker 8: And and like I said, it started to look like

584
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Speaker 8: in Minnesota he was playing well, but then the end

585
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Speaker 8: of the year you're like, oh, there's the Sam Donald.

586
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Speaker 8: And then this year he's playing well again. But regular

587
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 8: season he did have fourteen interceptions. That's the one thing

588
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Speaker 8: that kind of haunted him at USC and would haunt

589
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Speaker 8: him in the NFL that it would always come back

590
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 8: and it's ugly ahead. But he was magnificent in that

591
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Speaker 8: in that game against the Rams. Now the Rams defense

592
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 8: has fallen off a bit, but that's that's not Donald's fault.

593
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Speaker 8: Donald could just you know, go with the defense that

594
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Speaker 8: that he's playing against and Jackson Smith and Jigba has

595
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Speaker 8: been unbelievable. He should be the offensive Player of the

596
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Speaker 8: Year this year. He's been incredible. Yes, but I think

597
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Speaker 8: just the sticktuitiveness of eighth year, you know, keep going

598
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Speaker 8: fifteen and now he's finally getting paid off with a

599
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm checking out his record, so he's uh, he's

601
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Speaker 1: twenty eight and six in.

602
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Speaker 5: His last thirty points.

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Speaker 1: Now, Donald depressively, Yes, it is. Uh, it's unbelievable. The

604
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Speaker 1: ore the best team right going into the Super Bowl.

605
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Speaker 1: Seattle is the best team in the NFL, right top

606
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Speaker 1: to bottom.

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Speaker 8: I had picked the Rams to make it to the

608
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl, but the Rams defense, like I said, has

609
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Speaker 8: fallen off. Offensive, we know they had firepower, but the

610
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Speaker 8: defense has fallen off. Seattle is is the most complete team. Now,

611
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Speaker 8: they did lose Sharboneau or charbone the running back. It's

612
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Speaker 8: just Walker, so that that that kind of hurt a

613
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Speaker 8: little bit. And they would love to have a dual threat.

614
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Speaker 5: But they don't.

615
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Speaker 8: So yeah, I do think they're the most complete team,

616
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Speaker 8: great defense. New England has an excellent defense as well.

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Speaker 8: By the way, this could be a bit of a

618
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Speaker 8: rock fight. This could be a super Bowl I and

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Speaker 8: other former defensive players enjoy, and maybe not the casual

620
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Speaker 8: fan as much if they don't see a high scoring game.

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Speaker 7: But Mike, was anybody happier that the Seahawks won on

622
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Speaker 7: Sunday more than Tarik Wollan after that haunting penalty.

623
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Speaker 5: On that bath and twelve.

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Speaker 8: You know, I can't stand at the ref through that flag.

625
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Speaker 8: I mean I really can't. And and I know they say,

626
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Speaker 8: if it's a penalty in the first quarter, it's a

627
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Speaker 8: penalty in the fourth quarter. If it's penalty in the

628
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Speaker 8: regular season, it's penalty in the postseason. I get that,

629
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Speaker 8: But man, there are times when.

630
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Speaker 5: Know, could the ref of of run in front of him?

631
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Speaker 8: And you know, you see that in the end zone occasionally,

632
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Speaker 8: like in college, if a player starts getting a little

633
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 8: too crazy with a celebration, a ref will kind of

634
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Speaker 8: get in front of him and basically say, hey, chill,

635
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Speaker 8: you know, instead of just throwing the flag. You know,

636
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Speaker 8: could the ref not have gotten in front of him

637
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Speaker 8: and said, hey, you know, just go to your sideline.

638
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Speaker 5: Let it let it be, you just had a big play,

639
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But he just stood there.

640
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Speaker 8: DeVante Adams looked like he was trying to egg the

641
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Speaker 8: ref on to throw the throw the flag as well,

642
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Speaker 8: which I don't blame Davonte Adams for doing that. I

643
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 8: just had a hard time with that. And then he

644
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Speaker 8: gets beat for the touchdown on the next place. So yeah,

645
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Speaker 8: there is no doubt that was a big, big sigre

646
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Speaker 8: relief for Woolen.

647
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Speaker 3: What'd you make of McVeigh and Matthew Stafford more McVeigh

648
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Speaker 3: than Stafford kind of biting back. This is interesting because you.

649
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Speaker 1: Played Mike and you have a prominent media career as well.

650
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Speaker 1: About asking Stafford right after the game, how you coming

651
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Speaker 1: back next season?

652
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Speaker 4: Oh?

653
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Speaker 8: Oh, I understand on both sides for sure, right. I mean,

654
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Speaker 8: it's right after a game. It's an emotional loss. The

655
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Speaker 8: next thing you're doing, if you're the Rams, is cleaning

656
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Speaker 8: out your locker. The season is over. You don't know

657
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Speaker 8: what kind of team you're going to have next year,

658
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Speaker 8: and that's the question that you ask, So I would

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Speaker 8: not answer it either. And obviously you just lost, so

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Speaker 8: you're a little agitated. But I don't blame the reporter

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Speaker 8: for asking it, because when is he going to get

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Speaker 8: a chance to talk to Stafford and McVeigh again. Right

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Speaker 8: they're out of the playoffs. They don't have media availability anymore.

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Speaker 8: So I don't blame them for asking it. I don't

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Speaker 8: blame the player and coach for being a little disgruntled

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Speaker 8: at the question.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of Sean Payton's decision to go

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Speaker 1: for it in the first half there? Oh, I was

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Speaker 1: talking about it. I thought Peyton was in the right

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Speaker 1: he was trying to end the game right there. He

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Speaker 1: puts up fourteen points and that's enough to win that game.

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Speaker 8: Thought it was completely the wrong decision, And I set

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Speaker 8: it during the game. I set it before the play.

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Speaker 8: I said, take the point. I said, this is a

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Speaker 8: rock fight, this is a low scoring game. Points are

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Speaker 8: a premium right now. Your defense was shutting out the Patriots,

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Speaker 8: and you have a backup quarterback in get the ten points,

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Speaker 8: get two scores up. And then I hated the play call.

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Speaker 8: That's a play call that usually invites quick pressure on

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Speaker 8: the quarterback. Normally you're supposed to have a receiver that's

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Speaker 8: wide open without doing you know, a breakdown and into

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Speaker 8: the weeds of what New England did. Marcus Jones did

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Speaker 8: a nice job of letting his guy go to the

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Speaker 8: inside and staying in the flat for the receiver. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it was a nice defensive play and also the play again,

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Speaker 8: as I said, let's let's quicker pressure come on the

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Speaker 8: quarterback and you have a backup quarterback in there. So

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Speaker 8: I didn't understand that. I didn't understand at all. I

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Speaker 8: absolutely would have kicked it. And then then I said, okay,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to kick it now. One run Prentice

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Speaker 8: the fullback at two forty five. Spread out the offense,

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Speaker 8: run them up the middle, and keep prnting us out.

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Speaker 8: Spread out the offense and run it up the middle.

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Speaker 8: You know, I disagreed with the decision and the decision,

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Speaker 8: the decision to go for it and the play call.

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Speaker 1: If he took the points and it ends up ten

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Speaker 1: to ten, do you think those two teams are still

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Speaker 1: playing for the right to go to the.

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Speaker 5: Still playing and I'm still in Colorado. Yes.

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Speaker 8: I mean that we knew there was going to be

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Speaker 8: bad weather in the second half.

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Speaker 5: We didn't know it was going to be that bad.

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Speaker 8: And you know, luckily for New England. They got their

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Speaker 8: field goal early in the third quarter before.

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Speaker 5: It really really got bad, and then.

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Speaker 8: There were four miss field goals. I mean one was

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Speaker 8: partially blocked, but four miss field goals. It was Yeah,

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Speaker 8: we would still be playing that game, Mike.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week in San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: We can't wait.

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Speaker 3: We're looking forward to it, and we appreciate you doing

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Speaker 3: this every single week with us. This is nonsense.

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Speaker 5: God Bless football one more week, Yes, God.

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Speaker 3: Bless Mike gol At pitching product.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Mike Gohler for joining us there. Chris

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Speaker 1: Long is going to join us an hour number two,

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Speaker 1: Taylor tells me that News Day has a top ten

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Speaker 1: New York sports radio host of all time?

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Speaker 4: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 3: Taylor?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, good. Who do we have here?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I want to guess the list if

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Speaker 1: I'm being honest, but I'm assuming that Mike Francesa would

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Speaker 1: be number one on that list, either him or Chris Russo.

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Speaker 7: Right, He's number one in the ratings always, He's number

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Speaker 7: one on this list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so number one on that list. Mike Francessa does

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Speaker 1: a podcast called Mike Dup. He is a friend of

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Speaker 1: the show. He has been on with us several times.

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Speaker 1: I love Mike, and one of the coolest things here

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Speaker 1: for me later in my career is forming friendships with

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Speaker 1: Mike Francesa and Christopher mad Doug Russo, two guys that

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Speaker 1: grew up listening to and quite frankly, they're the reason

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Speaker 1: I got into this business. But here is Mike Francessa

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Speaker 1: before the Broncos Patriots game AFC Championship game talking about

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton.

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton is good at everything.

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Speaker 2: Jean Payton's not going to screw up.

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Speaker 3: And here is Mike Francessa right after that game.

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Speaker 5: He's screwed up.

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Speaker 9: He's nothing there with his defense and with a suspect quarterback,

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Speaker 9: he could have gone up ten nothing in that game,

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Speaker 9: and Steady goes on fourth down, doesn't make it, doesn't

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Speaker 9: even come close to making it, and they do not

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Speaker 9: score again in the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad we play that because I sent him

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Speaker 1: a text today asking him to come on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't returned my text, hasn't responded. So he is

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Speaker 1: number one on the list. I cannot hear that enough.

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Speaker 1: It's like music here again, guys, just so we're ready

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Speaker 1: for it. Mike Francessa the number the number one host

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Speaker 1: all time in market, number one New York City, and

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Speaker 1: he is deserving of that.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 1: He's the greatest to ever do this, him and Christopher

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Speaker 1: mad Dog Russo. But here is number one on that list.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Sean Payton before the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 2: Game, Sean Payton is good at everything.

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Speaker 3: Jean Payton's not.

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Speaker 5: Going to screw up.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 5: He's screwed up.

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Speaker 4: At least there's a self awareness there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, listen, that's how you get to be number one

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Speaker 3: in Newsday. That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's how you do it. Here memories what you said

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Speaker 4: three hours before?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't remember when I said one hour before,

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Speaker 3: So that's unfortunate for Mike. Sean Payton screwed up.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the last takeaway you get

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Speaker 4: from that game. But if he's just talking about the

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Speaker 4: initial decision to not uh to go for it there

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Speaker 4: and not kick the field goal, I think that's being overplayed.

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Speaker 4: I think it's come on, there's a whole weather system

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Speaker 4: that came through an entirely different game that happened. You

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Speaker 4: can't harp on those three points.

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Speaker 7: You have to give credit to Francesa. He's not married

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Speaker 7: to a take. He's willing to move off, move off

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Speaker 7: his original take.

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Speaker 3: No, he's just listen. I'm telling you right now. What's

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Speaker 3: happening is he hopes that everyone forgot the previous take.

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Speaker 5: He's screwed up.