1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's bringing Tom e Kerrn. He gets the 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: cover of the Patriots, an insider for NBC Sports Boston. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: When did you start covering the Patriot nineteen hundred ninety 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: seven Pete Carroll's first year. Oh, what do you remember 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: about Pete? He was relentlessly optimistic and upbeat and just 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: really not ready for the cynical, mean spirited nature of 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: the post Parcels Patriots media. What was your initial reaction 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: when Belichick got hired That it's obvious that they should 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: have done it three years before. And I asked Robert 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: crafton his introductory press conference, why didn't you hire him 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: after Parcel's left? And he said, you know, he was 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: too close to Parcels. It's a good question, but he 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: was too close to Parcels at the time. You start 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: to look at this this game, it feels almost like 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: a build up to a Super Bowl with the media coverage. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: What is it like locale? And it doesn't have that feel? Yeah, 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: it absolutely does. I think there's fatigue and there's less 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: conversation about what's going to happen between the lines as 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: opposed to what the reactions will be what are the 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: reactions of the fans. What are the Patriots do as 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: an organization when Brady breaks Breeze's record with sixty eight 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: more yards to become a career passing leader who plays 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: like ass Brady or Mac Those are the things that 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: are more focused on. Then Hey, how they're going to 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: hold back that Tampa Bay front. You know, there's so 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: many questions on the outside that people I think are asking, like, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: does it mean more to Belichick? Doesn't mean more to Brady? 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: Could you quantify an answer with it. I think the 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: individual victory it has, it's going to have a lot 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: to do with the nature of the win, in the 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: nature of the game. You know, the Patriots at one 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: and two, but they haven't played really well in any 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: of the three games. This is post Brady, so there's 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: seven and whatever, eight and eleven since he left. But 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: they spent all the money, so people like myself expected, Hey, 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be probably a twelve win season just by osmosis. 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: And if it's not and they get their asses handed 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to them, Dan, it's gonna be very disgruntled by the 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: second half inside that stadium. And you know that NBC 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: will cut from the noise of the fans to Bill, 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: to the fans to Bill to Brady. On the other side, 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the optics won't be great. What answer did you want 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: out of Belichick when you interrupted? You know, let me 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: play it again, now, were you rude? It popped out 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: of my mouth before I knew it was popping out, 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: all right, And here is Tom Kerran going toe to 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: toe with Bill Belichick. He spoke on w EI today 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady looking at his options and he decided 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Tampa was a better option. Why weren't the Patriots a 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: better option for him? When both Robert Kraft and Brady 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: himself said over an old how much they wanted him 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: to finish his career here. Yeah, Well, I mean, I'm 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: not going to go back and rehash all that we've 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: talked about that really you've never talked about it with us. 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Some focus on the game here, and look, I have 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: so much respect and appreciation for Tom and everything. Okay, 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: So Tom, what did you expect Belichick to say? See? 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, is it popped out of my mouth 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: Because it's several years and I've had a good relationship 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: with Bill. I don't think it's awesome right now, But 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: several years of him saying that we've talked about things 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: that were never talked about, so that really fell out. 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: What I would love for him to say is see, 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: he's being disingenuous. The offer and the option that Brady 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: looked at relative to the Patriots was never what he 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: asked for and was never what they kind of agreed 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to give him. In the summer of twenty nineteen and 69 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: the summer of twenty nineteen, it was a very simple 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: request from Brady the breeze contract, two years, million dollars, 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: all guaranteed, We're done, I'll stay here through twenty twenty. 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Patriots instead gave him a kind of phony second year 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and an eight million dollar bump, and that's what we said. 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: You know what, So when it got to twenty twenty, 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: there was no option offered by the Patriots, So maybe 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I was looking for Bill to say, you know what, Tom, 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: let's just put it this way philosophically, both on the 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: football field and financially for our roster, the option that 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Tom had in Tampa Bay was going to be superior 80 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: to the one that we offered. We weren't in a 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: position to match anything that they were going to do 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: philosophically or financially. That's better than we talked about it 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: when you didn't. Yeah, you can't rehash if you haven't hashed, 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: and men I mean that, but you're right. Belichick has 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a way of just saying we've you know, we we've 86 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: discussed that. Like in Bill's World, he discussed it by 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: maybe having one line. You know, reporters want to know 88 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: there's more to this seth Wickersham has a new book 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: out on the Patriots, kind of behind the curtain here. 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: Do you think anything is unearthed with the relationship or 91 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: lack thereof, of Brady and Belichick. I think there'll be 92 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot of unearthing of details behind it, you know, 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: in terms of anecdotal stuff, and you know, reading some 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: of the excerpts today, it's it's going to be a 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: fascinating read, you know, just the whole triangle of agitation 96 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: that was going on. He's going to be interesting to read. 97 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Brady loved the success of the Patriots. He hated the 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: interpersonal relationship that he had with Belichick, and he hated 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it because it could have been better and should have 100 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: been better, and he wanted it to be better. But 101 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: it just wasn't going to be that way. And he 102 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: knew that he was going to go the way of 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Mankins or Seymour or Vinitary or Law or whoever. He 104 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: knew that was awaiting him. That's why he wanted to 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: get ahead of it. And that's why he kept asking 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: for the extensions. Do you think when Bill wouldn't do it, 107 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: he was just, you know, I know it's gonna he's 108 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna do to me. But Tom had to know. Bill 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Belichick is not capable of being that kind of coach 110 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: touchy feely. Yes, how come he can do it with 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: like the thirty eighth guy on the roster, but he 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: can't do it with his best player Because he can 113 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: and he does. You think that he could be, you know, 114 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: a Bruce Arians kind of guy. No, No, but you 115 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: you're not looking for Bruce Arians. But say, for instance, 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, the week before the twenty eighteen Super Bowl 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: or AFC Championship, and your hand gets ripped open to 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: an extent that it does, and there's a real question 119 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: as to whether or not you're gonna play, and you 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: play through the pain of it and everything, and then 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: someone asked you about it. It's not a heart surgeon. 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: It's not what he had. That's so I mean you're 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: like that that's crituitous, that's crituitous crappiness toward the kid. 124 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: And at some point he's like, well, that's that's just 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: he's got it out for me specifically because of the 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: level I've risen too. I think in many ways it's 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: he someone had a great line to me. It was 128 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: one of the people in the organization about Wes Welker. 129 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Belichick adored Wes Welker at three million dollars a year, 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: At nine million dollars a year, hated hated. So there 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: you have it. Yeah, I just don't know. If you 132 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: see Bill after they win a Super Bowl, I mean 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: he does, there is a motion there he holds Tom 134 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: like he's his son, but then ten minutes after it's done, 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: he's over with. It's over six times in his life 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: he's shown that kind of emotion, and that's when they 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. He's not incapable of the emotion. 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: He's not incapable of human warmth. I mean, he's done 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: many unbelievably generous philanthropic things and he still does. He's 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: not a horrible person. It's just with his employees. In 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: order for him to get from them what he wants, 142 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: he has to treat them, he believes in a certain way, 143 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: especially the ones who are quote unquote above the others. 144 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: But Lawrence Taylor, I mean, he coached the best offensive 145 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: player and the best defensive player arguably in NFL history. 146 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: But Lawrence Taylor got miles and miles and miles of 147 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Bill bending over backwards for him. And there's probably a 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: reason for that because Bill still hadn't been a head 149 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: coach and Lawrence was his pathway to become a head coach, 150 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: just to make sure that he was on the field 151 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: and you could bend to get things from him. But 152 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: if Lawrence Taylor was playing for Belichick as a head coach, 153 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: how would Bill have treated Lawrence too? I think it'd 154 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: be different. I think it would be different. Until the 155 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: outlier skills, you know, became a distraction. See, Brady Belichick 156 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: believed was imminently replaceable. Brady knew that Belichick held that sentiment. 157 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Belichick was not shy about sharing that sentiment. Lawrence Taylor 158 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: wasn't replaceable, and that's the biggest part of Brady's you know, 159 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: being elsewhere. I mean, Belichick really would have loved to 160 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: have gone with Jimmy Garoppolo. It's it's interesting think about it. 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: What would have happened if twenty eight three turned into 162 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: thirty one fourteen or forty two to ten. The timeline 163 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: would have been perfect. That's twenty sixteen, you say goodbye 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: to Tom, Jimmy's the quarterback, you're on You're on your way. Instead, 165 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: they have that miraculous comeback and Brady's the MVP in 166 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and nights grew is Belichick like driven by 167 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: ego that you know, he wants to be viewed as 168 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm the reason why we win, not Tom Brady and 169 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: that competition that he did not like. I think that's 170 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: a pretty big facet of it. Yeah, and he will 171 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: obviously say it's you know, it's the players. It's the players. 172 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: It's the players. But a lot of those players because 173 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Bill as a general manager, are players who are un 174 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: by Bill. You know, So whether it's creating Matt Slater 175 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: or m David Andrews, you look along their offensive line 176 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and started with undrafted guys or Malcolm Butler or Devin 177 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: mccordy who was a surprise first round pick, which or Mayo, 178 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Who's those are guys that Bill fines? And then when 179 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: he says it's the players, it's the players, it's the players, Well, 180 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: how do those players get there? Well, Julian Edelman got 181 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: there because Bill was pressure enough to hire him. Where 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Wes Welker is a you know, a scrub in Miami. 183 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: So it cuts both ways. But Bill is absolutely very 184 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: concerned with who he has to share the spot bight 185 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: in the acclaim with, and he does it, but he 186 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get to the point where it's an 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: actual conversation. Okay, as the McDaniels are. Bill, he doesn't 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: want that. What happens Sunday night and I was talking 189 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: to our friend Rich Eisen and I used to did 190 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: you watch Game of Thrones? No? You didn't. No, I 191 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: can see you that. I breakdown game film. I don't. 192 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know time. Oh yeah you grind yeah, grind yeah, 193 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure I don't have time for Definitely it's gonna 194 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: look like the Red Wedding. I end up watching game film, 195 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: so grinding, grinded film. I don't have time to watch. Yeah, 196 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: watching I am on the throne. I do you know 197 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: who I am on? Bill? Belichick. I'm on the throne. Yeah, 198 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: your game of enthusiasm, curb your throne. So what happens 199 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday night? You think Buccaneers rouffam up? What'll be 200 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: interesting I think is Bill will hatch a game plan 201 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that he doesn't get forty dropped on him. 202 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: That means people with deep all night, and you invite 203 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Metaplinette and Ronald Jones to run the football as much 204 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: as possible. So I'm thinking, like twenty seven, thirteen seventeen. Okay, 205 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: finish this sentence. What if the Patriots win the game, 206 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna see just huge vindication and elation. And I 207 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: mean it'll be it'll be a massive upset. Okay. And 208 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: I The interesting thing is in games like this, if 209 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: you said, what if the Patriots win the game when 210 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: they were backed into a corner, it would be because 211 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: of Brady. I don't know who. It would because be 212 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: because of this week. I don't know what individual player 213 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: would have an out of body experience to deliver that win. 214 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Postgame handshake hug Neither depends on the result Buccaneers. Buccaneers win, 215 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: probably a pregame hug. Pregame pregame hug. Yeah, Paulie wants 216 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: to take you up on that bed. What do you 217 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: want to bet with Curran? On this? I could see 218 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: a pregame conversation and maybe a pregame handshake, but a hug. 219 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna have a conversation, you're gonna 220 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: have a hug initiated by whom Tom No, it would 221 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: always be the initiator. Oh, the initiator based off what wait, 222 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: there's a deflator, the initiator because you don't go running 223 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: up to your nineteen fifties dad and embrace him. You 224 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: wait for him to make the first move. Son. I 225 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: was always very proud of you, you know. I always 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: told the guys down the bar, I love you. That's 227 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: that's the relationship. Brady still gonna run over and hug 228 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: him like me and GD did remember? Remember the whole 229 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: thing would be g d and run out and hug him, 230 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: and then Bill wouldn't hug him, and then Bill ran 231 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: out and hugged him harder. PAULI has sixteen dollars to 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: his name. You're willing to bet sixteen dollars? No pregame 233 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: hug or handshit, No pregame hug, handshake, is in play? 234 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: Handshake is in play. That's too specific for me to 235 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: put that. Then I need odds. I'll give you thirty 236 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: to your fifteen. I'll come up with some scratch. Thirty 237 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: dollars to your fifteen. Right, I'll give you fifteen bucks. 238 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 1: If there's no pregame hug just to the action, really okay, 239 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: because because now there's a reason to why bunch of 240 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the game. Well now I had action on pregame? Yeah? Uh? 241 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Do you get to talk to Belichick anymore this week? Yeah? 242 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Friday morning. It will be a fun days. Usually good 243 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: on Fridays. Many thank you, Tom, bye bye. Be sure 244 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 245 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox 246 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP. Brian Kelly joining 247 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: us on the program. How did you celebrate that victory? Coach? 248 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: U pumper traffic getting out of Chicago on our bush. 249 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: You know it's uh and uh dip this pizza from 250 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Chicago on the bus. So it was kind of neat 251 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: because it took me back to my roots as a 252 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Division two head coach bus rides. You know, it's like 253 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Triple A baseball. We took the bus back from Chicago 254 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: to South End and got a chance to be on 255 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: the bus with the guys. So it was real. It 256 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: felt great to be able to celebrate it on a 257 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: bus ride back to South Bend with with your teammates 258 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: and your coaches. Did how many times have you gone 259 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: into a game not thinking you could win that game? Who? Not? Many? Uh? 260 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: You know, I've coached, you know, well over three hundred games, 261 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: and I can't remember many that I've gone in and said, 262 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: we have no chance of winning this game. Maybe I 263 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: could probably comm on my hand where where I felt 264 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: like it was that overwhelming odds against our football team, 265 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: and and now, truth be told, there were probably way 266 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: more many games than that. It's just I'm just not 267 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: wired that way. I just go in thinking that we're 268 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: going to find a way to win. But at Notre Dame, 269 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: have you felt like that if it was a playoff game, 270 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: did you think, oh my god, I don't I don't 271 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: like her. Even though you want to win, you you 272 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: coach to win, But is there in back of your 273 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: mind you're like, I hope this doesn't get out of hand. Um. 274 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Maybe In two thousand and twelve, the Alabama Notre Dame 275 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: National championship game. I knew we were in a you know, 276 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: an uphill climb there. We were only three years and 277 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: into rebuilding the program here, and you know we got 278 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: there quickly. Uh with with uh playing for a championship 279 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: and you know that Alabama team was obviously one of 280 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: the best in a long long time. That a lot 281 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of things would have had to gone right there. So 282 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: that was probably the one time when I was at 283 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Notre Dame where I felt like this is going to 284 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: be an uphill climb. And it's almost like you guys 285 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: were ahead of schedule and you got to that national 286 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: title game because you know, people talk about it, Okay, 287 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: can Notre Dame, you know, have the speed? You know, 288 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: can they Can they match the offensive and defensive lines 289 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: of SEC teams? And how do you how do you 290 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: go out and try to establish that at Notre Dame. Well, 291 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: we still have to recruit to our profile and so 292 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: it's player development. Uh, it's it's the ability to recruit 293 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame at a higher level than we had 294 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: been recruiting up to that point, and then developing your 295 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: players over a long period of time. And you know, 296 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: the last two drafts. We've had ten players drafted that's 297 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: as high as Alabama and Ohio State, and that's where 298 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: we need to be to have the kind of players 299 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: necessary to compete at that stage. So it wasn't three 300 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: years into it that we were having that kind of 301 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: depth in drafts, and so we knew that we were 302 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: there early, like you said, and it just requires more 303 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: time than recruiting. Uh. And you got to win, right, 304 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: We couldn't just celebrate our past success. We had to 305 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: win and that attracts obviously the the kids to come 306 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame as well. How long do you plan 307 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: on coaching? You know, I've never said this is the 308 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: day that I'm going to stop coaching, because I love 309 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: the relationships. I love eighteen to twenty one year old 310 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: players that are growing every day, making mistakes, learning from them. 311 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: That's what that's what's exciting. Everybody was asking me about 312 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin win and breaking Rockei's record, and I totally 313 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: understand that because it's such a milestone. But I was 314 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: so excited about some of our younger players and how 315 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: they grew in that game. And that's the honest truth. 316 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: So that's what keeps me going and if I'm if 317 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: they're still listening to me, Dan, and I'm still excited, 318 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I'll keep coaching for as long as they keep listening. 319 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: How do you keep up with younger kids like eighteen 320 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: year old? How do you relate to an eighteen year old? 321 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to stay close to them, and 322 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: you can't be locked up in meeting rooms. You've got 323 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: to be in the training room with them. You've got 324 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: to be in the player's lounge in the locker room. 325 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: But you're not going to TikTok dances or anything like that, 326 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: are you. No? I don't think you have to. But 327 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: you better know TikTok, and you better know current trends 328 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I've got some college age kids myself, 329 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: and I said this the other day in a press conference. 330 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: When when I hear, you know, some urban slang, I'll 331 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: immediately text my college age kids and ask them what 332 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: that means, just so I could stay current on what's 333 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: going on. What coach did you take the most from? 334 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Try to emulate? You know, Dan, I've been asked this 335 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: question a lot. I don't know that I emulated anybody 336 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: as much as you know. There were so many mentors 337 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: in my life grown up, because I was a head 338 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: coach at twenty eight years old, and I was so 339 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: focused on trying to figure out, you know, who I 340 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: was and what I was doing that I just I 341 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: would listen to anybody, anybody that I respected, whether you 342 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: were coach or not, a parent, um, somebody in our office, 343 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: anybody that I had respect for. I was listening to 344 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: them and trying to build my own identity and philosophy 345 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: as a young coach. How important was it to schedule 346 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: a game with Cincinnati? Well, I don't know that there 347 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: was an importance. I've I felt like, you know, when 348 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about scheduling future opponents, I'm like, why 349 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: don't we get Central Michigan where I coached and we 350 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: want a championship, and let's get Cincinnati and and get 351 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: them on the schedule as well, just because I just 352 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: felt like a sense of, you know, thank you for 353 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity that that I got to coach there. I'm 354 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: not as excited about that decision and playing since it 355 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: Atty Now you know, it's a great program and Luke's 356 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: done a great job there and uh, you know it's 357 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: it turns out now it's gonna be a great matchup. 358 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: Were you Patriot fan growing up? I am, yeah, and 359 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: I still am. Uh. Do you have any conversations with Belichick? 360 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, we'll stay close. Yeah, we've stayed close 361 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: over the years. How often do you talk to him? 362 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: Probably every every couple of months. And you're talking, You're 363 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: you're acting like Belichick. Now you're not answering. You know, 364 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: it's a long winded question here, Brian like, well, we'll 365 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: talk about games, you know. Uh, you know, he'll text 366 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: me about how we've played, and I'll I'll text him 367 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: back and and you know, it's it's football related stuff, 368 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: certainly about how we're doing. And we work a lot 369 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: together with our foundations as well, and that's really what's 370 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: gotten us close. My wife and his fiance are really 371 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: close in terms of working their foundations together. So that's 372 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: how that relationship formed and we've stayed in contact because 373 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: of that. But when Notre Dame plays Navy, is he 374 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: rooting for Navy. He's got a deep relationship with Navy. 375 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: There's no doubt there. You know, it goes back with 376 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: his dad and where he was from. And I think 377 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: he stays out of the rooting business. He's much more 378 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: into how games are played tactically. And you know, and 379 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: I think you guys see that from your perspective too. 380 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: He doesn't get too emotional about who he's pulling for 381 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: as much as how the game's played. I think he 382 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: ends up at Navy when he's done with the NFL 383 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: for some reason. I hope not because we play him. 384 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: That would not be That would be one reason for 385 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: us not to play. And all of a sudden, Notre 386 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: Dame is taking Navy off its schedule. No NOBE, And 387 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: you're going to Vegas next year. We are. We're really 388 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: excited about that. And I know, you know our Shamrocks series, 389 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: which travels around the country and plays in you know, 390 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: great venues, this venue, Allegian Stadium, and playing in Vegas. 391 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're playing BYU. It's it's it's going to 392 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: be a great environment. We're really looking forward to it. 393 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, and good luck against Cincinnati 394 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: and congratulations, Thanks Dan, thanks for having me on. Fox 395 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 396 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 397 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to 398 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: listen live. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called 399 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: All Ball. 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We know that there is one Danette 408 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: who's been accused of plagiarism, and that's Todd Fritz and 409 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: theft that's Todd Fritz. Could another Danette be joining Todd 410 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: Fritz in the plagiarism for Trinity? I have that for 411 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: you in a moment eight seven seven three d P 412 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Show email address TP of Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 413 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: handle at DP show. A couple of minutes ago, I 414 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: was talking about Kyrie Irving. I was talking about Lebron James. 415 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: Lebron James said I don't want to be a spokesperson 416 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: for the vaccine vaccination, and I thought maybe because he 417 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to ruffle the feathers with some of the 418 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: their players around the league, like Kyrie Irving, who was 419 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: a powerful position. And then Pauli had the line that 420 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: you know, wow, that's odd that Kyrie never passed up 421 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: a shot before in his life. Well, this was just 422 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: sent to me, you know, the the Sclar Brothers sk 423 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: Laar the Twins, September twenty seventh at six fifty nine 424 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: pm from the Los Angeles, California. Twitter can't believe Kyrie 425 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Irving won't get vaccinated. Dude has never passed up a 426 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: shot in his life. It's not the most original joke, 427 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: but I definitely didn't steal it from the Sclar Okay, 428 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: well you have to. You have to answer to them, 429 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: both of them, yes, not just one of them at 430 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: a time. Well, they only work together, Okay, Yeah, you 431 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: should be able to address them and say that you 432 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: did not You did not steal this, right. I would 433 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: never steal a joke, especially an easy one. Yes, mclove. Yeah, 434 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: I think that joke is unoriginal enough to not be schooling. 435 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think PAULI follows the far brothers. I 436 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: follow one of them. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna 437 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: I follow the funny one phone calls coming up. We 438 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: were staying with the poll question that we had last out. Well, 439 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: it's actually a blow out. The question was which quarterback 440 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: is most likely to finish his career in the same uniform? 441 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: One went Ben Roethlisberger. On the theory, I should have 442 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: worded it which one is more likely to play for 443 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: another team? Because that I guess you're into interesting. Russell Wilson, Well, Russ, 444 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: I think will Ben's on plan for somebody else. Guys 445 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: trying to hang on. I mean no, no, no, no 446 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: right far hung on. No, you're not bringing in Ben Roethlisberger. 447 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: Nobody else was bringing in Ben. This is it wired 448 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: to wire with the Steelers? No, absolutely not. I was 449 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: actually gonna put Patrick Mahomes on that pole as well, 450 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: because he seems like a guy who could be a 451 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: wired or wire Drew Brees type. I would think so, 452 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: But you know, he's got that lengthy contract depends on 453 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what happens in eight years, nine years, 454 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: ten years? Does he want to stay? Do they want 455 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: him to stay? Right now? You go, well, of course 456 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you're going to sign him up to a lifetime contract here, yeah, 457 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: club right, Like, would we have ever thought Tom Brady 458 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: would not be a Patriot. No, probably not. You're starting 459 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: to get more information from behind the scenes, of course, 460 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: leading into this game on Sunday Night with Belichick and Brady. 461 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if Tom writes a book when it's 462 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: all said and done, I'd be curious if I know. 463 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: Belichick's not going to. But Brady, it just feels like 464 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: Brady could do this, you know, with his brand. Do 465 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: you have something a TV portion that goes along with 466 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: the book, And does Brady care about giving his side 467 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: of what really happened? Because when you you think about it, 468 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Brady was leaving the Patriots and he wanted to meet 469 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick in person. Belichick said, I can't, let's 470 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: talk over the phone. I think that tells you everything 471 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: about the relationship. Do I think that Bill went out 472 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: of his way to make sure that he did not 473 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: coddle or enable Tom. I do. Was that a way 474 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: of saying to the rest of the players, I treat 475 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: you all the same, But he didn't treat players all 476 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the same. He loved the underdog, he loved the guy 477 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: that he discovered, He loved Edelman. I mean, you get 478 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: those guys and you're like that's my kind of guy. 479 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: Tom probably not his kind of guy. Even though Brady 480 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: was an underdog out of nowhere to become the goat, 481 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: but once you became the goat, it felt like there 482 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: was maybe friction. Maybe there's ego, maybe there's competition. Hey, 483 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm the head coach, I'm the reason why I'm the master. 484 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: You're the puppet, the puppeteer here. You know, he loved 485 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Wes Welker. He loved those guys as offensive linemen that 486 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: you didn't really know their names. Where did they come from? 487 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: And maybe that's part of this. But maybe one day 488 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: Brady gives his side of the story. Yes time. That 489 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: was very telling though, from Tom Curran saying that he 490 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: loved west Welker at three million a year, then eight 491 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: of him at nine million. Yeah, yeah, like I love 492 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: the underdog until you're not the underdog anymore. I love Brady, 493 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, a sixth round pick, and then all of 494 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: a sudden Tom wants more money. Tom wants to have 495 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: him put in the offense. Maybe I don't like Tom 496 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: as much. It's just weird, weird dynamics, makeup dynasties, and 497 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: it's like a band like you stay together. Sometimes you 498 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: don't like each other, but you know, the means to 499 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the end is that we're able to still be a band. Yeah, 500 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the club Polly asked me to pick a random page 501 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: and share something from the Worker Champ book. I picked 502 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: up the page where the team was mad at you 503 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: give a little bit more details Seth Wickershev's book on 504 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. It's better to be feared about the Patriots. 505 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Remember when the Patriots were mad about Alex Guerrero seeing 506 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: the players. Yeah, that apparently was a huge part of 507 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: this blowout at the end. Yeah, because Brady was like, 508 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: he's my guy, He's gonna see anyone that we want. 509 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: And the team's like, we don't want this around anymore. Okay. 510 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's unbelieved. There's fifteen reasons it all fell apart. Yeah. 511 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's just one. I think Tom wanted 512 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: to be able to have input. I did. I think 513 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: that they as much as they say, well, we gave 514 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: Tom an offer. Okay, you can give somebody an offer. 515 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's a true offer, a good offer. 516 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: Did they give him an offer that he couldn't refuse? 517 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: The answers know, but the Patriots never do this, and 518 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Tom should have known this, and maybe he did. Like 519 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: he knows who Belichick is, he knows who he was. 520 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he tried to pull a palace coup. You 521 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: go to the you go to the owner to say, hey, 522 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: the coach loves Jimmy Garoppolo. You've got to make a 523 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: decision here. It's me or Garoppolo. And then all of 524 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, Bill hand delivers Jimmy Garoppolo to San Francisco 525 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: because the Cleveland Browns were going to trade for him, reportedly, 526 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: and Belichick did not want him to go to Cleveland. 527 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: He hand delivered him to Kyle Shanahan, offensive minded head 528 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: coach San Francisco. If I'm Belichick, that would ruffle my 529 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: feathers too. But you know Brady's probably saying, you know, 530 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: let me troubleshoot this. And you know, guys in practice 531 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: would talk about how good Garoppolo was and the competition 532 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: that was there between Tom and Garoppolo, like it was real. 533 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Now to what degree, I have no idea, No, I 534 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: don't have a source with the Patriots. But Seth Wickersham 535 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: has a new book coming out. What's the title of it. 536 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: It's better to be feared the New England Patriots dynasty 537 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: and the pursuit of greatness, right, Yeah, it almost feels 538 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: like the Patriots when Tom Brady got to about thirty 539 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: eight years old, just assumed he would be a normal 540 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: quarterback who drops off like all quarterbacks drop off at 541 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven, thirty. No one could have saw 542 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: this coming. And it's almost fair to Bill Belchick and 543 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots to say we got to go at Croppolo 544 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: because all thirty eight three eight or quarterbacks go downhill 545 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: except for Warren Moon, and that was kind of an anomaly. 546 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: They all do. And even though Brady was in shape 547 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, I can understand saying well, 548 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: the inevitable is forty and he won't be playing till 549 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: he's forty four. Yeah, but you know that's having a 550 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: myopic view that's got blinders on where you have to 551 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: look at Tom Brady and say he's unique that he's 552 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: taken care of himself, he got healthier appliability. It's not 553 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: like he's slowing down because he was never fast enough 554 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to slow down. How is his arm strength? How was 555 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: his mental acuity? Like those are the things that you 556 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you would know as a head coach where Belichick's gonna go. 557 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: He can still throw it. You know, he's still processes, 558 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, game plan, all of that stuff. He still 559 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: puts in the time. Those are the things I would 560 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: want to know. Drew Brees I could watch and say 561 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: he could put in all the time. He could do 562 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: everything except where he didn't have any arm strength. Peyton 563 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: Manning put in all the time, he could know the game. 564 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: He had no arm strength. Like those are easy decisions, 565 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: and the Saints should have moved on from Drew probably 566 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: a year earlier. You know that Broncos won a Super 567 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: Bowl not because of Peyton almost you know, in Spider Peyton. 568 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is still playing football at a very high level. Yes, 569 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: he'd right, But you know, I think I kind of 570 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: agree with Paul and that it wasn't that crazy of 571 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: a thought to think that at thirty eight he wasn't 572 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: going to be able to perform at this high level. 573 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: It was at twenty sixteen when he was falling off 574 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: a cliff, right, And that's Max Kellerman. I know that that, 575 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: but still that was sort of the thought of, like, 576 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: any day, this dude's got to retire because he can't 577 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: possibly keep it up at this level. But I want 578 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: to know how much work do you put in? How 579 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: is your arm strength? Like those are things that are 580 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: really important, Like he putting in the time and the effort, 581 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: and you still care, and he still he cared even more, 582 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: and his arm strength was on par with the upper 583 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: echelon of quarterbacks there. And it's not like you go, man, 584 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: he can't move around in the pocket. He could never 585 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: move around in the pocket. It isn't like one of 586 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: the main criticisms of Tom Brady for some reason that 587 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: he never threw a deep ball. Everything was five yards, 588 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, five yards, So his arm strength. I don't 589 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: even know that people even could put arm strength in 590 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: the same sentence as Tom Brady. But I think if 591 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: you check that that was kind of a misnomer about 592 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: Tom not throwing the deep ball. Definitely, yeah, because people 593 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: said I can't throw the deep ball, and I go, 594 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: I think the stats bear out that he does throw 595 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: the deep ball. Yeah, mclon is it. His arm strength improved, 596 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: Actually did the guest house. It's better now than it 597 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: was like when he was twenty. Yeah, you can measure 598 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: these things. That's why if I'm Belichick, and I'm an 599 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: idiot savant where I know everything about football. If I'm 600 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: seeing Brady and he's in there, first guy in, last 601 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: guy out, still cares, puts in the time the games 602 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: means so much to him. He still has arm strength, 603 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: he has that ability to outthink a defense or defensive coordinator. 604 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: He's seen everything you could possibly throw it at a quarterback. 605 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: I'm just going to factor those things in. Like Ben 606 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger just looks old, Drew Brees looked old, Peyton Manning 607 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: looked old. Tom Brady doesn't look old like. He looks confident, 608 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: comfortable back there, unless Aaron Donald's going after him. Yampoint. 609 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the timeline. Tom Brady's 610 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: worst season out of the past ten years with the 611 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: Patriots specifically, was twenty fourteen. For him, he had a 612 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: bad an off year, not a bad year sixty percent 613 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: pass or twenty five touchdowns, eleven picks. That for him 614 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: was a off year. And that next draft they took 615 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppo in the second round. But just because Max 616 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Kellerman wants a hot take on ESPN and says, you 617 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: know he's fallen off the Cliff, What does Max Kellerman 618 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: know about football? To begin with? No, I only mentioned 619 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: that because it's like that was sort of somewhat common 620 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: thinking of this is when quarterbacks fall off that it 621 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: happened to do, it's like time is undefeated kind of thing. Yeah, 622 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: so far for everybody except for Tom Brady, this is 623 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So it wasn't that crazy of a 624 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: stretch to think that he would, you know, was about 625 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: to wrap it up. But Belichick is there every single 626 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: moment with him Seaton, and that's where he would probably go, 627 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, Tom slipping in here. Tom can't do that, Like, 628 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: what is it that Tom Brady can't do at forty 629 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: four that he could do at thirty five? Yeah, and 630 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything that he can't do. 631 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: And that's where Belichick, as brilliant as he is, would 632 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: see this and go, Tom, still my guy. Like, but 633 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: I understand he was looking at the successor maybe he 634 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: was tired of dealing with Tom and his trainer and 635 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: probably said, you know what, let's just move on. But 636 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: here's Tom coming to town. And the end for quarterbacks 637 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: usually isn't pretty. You know, there's the exception it's John Elway. 638 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, he rode off into the sunset as a winner. 639 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning ended his career with the Super Bowl win. 640 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady seems to be getting around the problem by 641 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: playing forever, but quarterbacks are usually forced out of the game, 642 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: and they don't leave by choice. The numbers for Ben 643 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger haven't been pretty ranks twenty eighth in the league 644 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: in QBR Steelers who won in two. They look lost 645 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: on offense. You know this was going to be the 646 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: last hurrah for him. But you can get fooled by 647 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Drew Brees may have fooled himself to 648 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: think he could be Tom Brady, but he never had 649 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: that arm strength there. And you know, you can talk 650 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: to the Saint You talk to a defensive player who 651 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: played against the Saints. They never ever worried about anything 652 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: deeper than eighteen to twenty yards with Drew never, So imagine, 653 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: if you're a defensive back, you're not worried about getting 654 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: beat deep because Drew wasn't gonna beat you deep. But 655 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, the rest of the offense do they step up. 656 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: You know, you got a showdown with Aaron Rodgers coming up. 657 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: That's not pretty. But I say give it three more 658 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: games than they have a bye week, and then we 659 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: might be hitting the reset button with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 660 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when Rodgers played poorly against the 661 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: Saints and I thought, okay, play well against the Lions. 662 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: I wanted him to play well against San Francisco just 663 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: to see how the media would react. Has anybody talked 664 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers this week? Right? Remember Jamis Winston week one? 665 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Dark Corse MVP, and I go, okay, 666 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: it's week one and then all of a sudden, Week 667 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: two and I haven't heard anything about James Winston be 668 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: an MVP. Kidding, but that's what it is. It's week 669 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: to week and those hot takes can make you look 670 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: really silly. Yeah, I mean they do, like I got, 671 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: and these guys have to go into these shows. You go, 672 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: I gotta have an opinion on this. I don't know 673 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: if I have an opinion, you gotta have an opinion 674 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: on what's your opinion? I don't know. Brady's gonna fall 675 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: off the cliff. Okay, that's great, that's a hot take. Yeah, 676 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: and you know what the worst part of that is, 677 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: even if you call it correctly. Yeah, everybody's gonna be like, yeah, 678 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: no kidding. That's what all of a sudden, your hot 679 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: take became becomes. Everybody knew that, Yeah, yeah, I know, 680 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: everybody knew Brady was gonna win Super Bowls obviously. You know, yes, yes, 681 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: there's no shows called measured and thoughtful. That's not next 682 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: measured and thoughtful. If we get thought there should be 683 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, I blame, I blame, blame. Pardon the interruption. 684 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: They did this to us, They created this model. But 685 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: they're not foe. They're not. No, no, no, But that 686 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's like it's the sincerest form of flattery's invitation. 687 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: That's that's what you know. When Keith and I did 688 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: Sports Center, we spawned imitators. Pardon the interruption, spawning imitators. 689 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: Manning and Manning Manning Night Football will spawn imitators. This 690 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: is what happens. Everybody goes, well, I can do that. 691 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: Go back to when the greatest show on turf, the Rams. 692 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: They created all these imitators, like it happens in all sports. Hey, 693 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be the Golden State Warriors. This is what 694 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: happens with success. Everybody wants to have a show like this, 695 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: have a group called the Danets. I gotta have sidekicks there. 696 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a man cave here. All right, good luck, 697 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: You're you're not gonna catch us. Yeah, McClement. I was 698 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: about to say how much Red brick appeared on TV 699 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: about two years after we started every channel, Uh, And 700 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: I just it's not like I said, boy, I'm gonna 701 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: put up red brick. And I just like, well, what 702 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: can we put on the walls? And I already had 703 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: brick on the wall, But all of a sudden, everybody 704 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, I may if you do one of these shows, 705 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: you gotta have red brick on the wall. I'm like, 706 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: why does everybody got red brick on the wall.