WEBVTT - Ep. 68: Shop ‘til Your Float Drops 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.600 I think at this point, having hung out with you 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.000 for a while, that I could do word associations and 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.640 be like desk lamp, and you'd be like Steelhead, Honda Accord, Steelhead. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.680 Everything reminds you of Steelhead. I wouldn't feel quite comfortable 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.400 like Steelhead. Fishing somewhere where there isn't graffiti. I'm your 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.680 bridges and stuff are shopping cards in the river. I'm 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.200 Joe sur Melly. I caught a snakehead. It was ten pounds. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.839 Why doesn't everybody like snakeheads? It's like toys for tots, 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.120 only it's scrap led for Bob the garbage man and 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.040 maybe Kenny the Benny if he gets out of the 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.400 rehabs to him. Good morning to generate anglers and welcome 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.280 to Ben the fishing podcast that believes that Thanksgiving is 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.000 just deployed by big Turkey Farma to offload more of 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.840 their dry, disgusting godzilla birds, which anglers will eat while 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.160 scoffing at farm ray salmon. I'm Joe Surmelli. I'm hating sama. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.160 Is that a turkey farming joke? It could be. I 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.680 don't know. I don't know anyway, So you know, on 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.200 this week's show here, we're gonna we're gonna have a 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.760 little We're gonna have a little fun with some some 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.240 questionable choices in waiting. Right, we're gonna talk Thanksgiving Eve, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.319 watering holes, um, and shady black Friday gear deals. But first, Hayden, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.920 what sir did you do for Thanksgiving? Well? I was 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.320 hoping to head back east, as you know. In fact, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.679 you and I were talking about linking up and doing 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.280 a little fishing, but I ended up just kicking around Bozeman. Yeah, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.520 i'd say you did, because you're not here, you're not working. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.160 We did a wild game friends giving out here and 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.840 then went out and did some fishing. Yep, and it 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.080 was a good time was had by all. There You 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.520 go into anything good? Uh Nope, Nope, not at all. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.440 We we hosted, We hosted, which is fine, right, But 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.760 between hosting and now, you know, I have little kids 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.480 the days of some kind of like dawn patrol mission, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.360 Thanksgiving more and long over, or at least I should 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.400 say they're on hiatus for a while. Um. You know, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.880 I can't just like bail and walk into a hot 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.960 meal like I used to. It just doesn't work anymore. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.000 I actually I get more excited about getting outside, um 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.280 the following days right after Thanksgiving, but the actual day 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.040 is it's a it's a bit mellow for me, Like, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.359 you know, it's just my parents were over, which is nice, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.720 but it's not like a big extravaganza capped off like 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.760 in the old days by your mom and aunts all 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.920 like running to Kmart at midnight for the Black Friday sale, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.400 you know what I mean. Um, speaking of which, speaking 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.800 of Black Friday, you're perpetually broke as shit, so i'd 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.639 imagine you're probably gonna seize the opportunity to knock out 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.720 some you know, discount Black Friday holiday shopping. Yes, maybe 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.480 am broke a ship, Joe, that's I know. I had 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.000 no idea Boson was going to cause him basically the 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.480 same as New York City. I mean a little surprise. Yeah. Well, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.160 I mean mostly it's because I'm like terribly responsible and 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.160 by all sorts of gear. But that's not really here 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.200 North there. I do intend to take advantage of some 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.160 Black Friday sales though these days, you know, at least 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.080 per tv uh, they start in September and you never 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.120 actually have to go to a store. That's true. You 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.200 start hearing about Black Friday in September. Yeah, exactly exactly, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.760 which reminds me that Meat Eaters Black Friday sale just 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.360 kicked off a few days ago. So if anybody listening 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.399 is looking to save a little on first light year 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.480 meat Eater gear f HF and so on and so forth, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.959 head on over to the meat eater dot com and 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.880 check that out. Yeah, you absolutely should do that. And 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.880 in other shopping news. Um, while it's it's not marked 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.480 down for Black Friday, I'm afraid I am pretty pumped 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.600 to announce that you can now purchase select rods and 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.800 reels from our sponsors thirteen Fishing directly on the Meat 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.560 Eater website, which is pretty cool. Um. And many of 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.680 those selections were picked by me. Um, and there are 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.120 there are a lot of the rods and reels that 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.040 you've seen me used in the last two seasons of 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.720 B Side Fishing. Um. Now, if you if you're crazy 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:59.680 broke like Hayden broke, like Mega broke, right I did? 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.560 I do also have a recommendation for a less reputable 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.200 dealer of fishing. Weares um you're okay with buying secondhand 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.080 man like you got issue with that? I don't think so, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.800 but it depends on what it is. But I mean 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.400 it's yeah, okay, well what about an item that perhaps 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.440 fell off one truck and ended up on another. Uh what, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.200 never mind, never mind, forget I said that. Uh anyhow, Look, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.280 we recently got a message. It's it is sketchy, isn't it. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.400 We recently got a message from our dear friend and 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.680 striper chunking expert, Bob the garbage Man Britona out a 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.400 newski and I assumed it would be a fishing report 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.919 because it's still peaked striper season out here. Um, but 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.360 I think this was actually intended for you, man, Like 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.119 he specifically left me a note that said, like even 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.479 you could afford this ship, and he might even be 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:53.280 willing to extend you some further discounts. It's bad when 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.200 even like Bob the garbage Man is taking pity on you. Yes, yes, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.440 it is. Anyway, getting into the holiday spirit, I figured 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.840 i'd i'd pay, asked the deals and savings onto our listeners. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.640 Bob seems to be uh we'll say, he's he's quite 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.599 the rush right to unload this stuff, so you guys 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.440 might might want to act fast. Uh, And he's selling 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.760 a bunch of well just listen, just take a listen. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.719 This is above the garbage man Bartana no a Newski, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.000 president of Bob's Discount Tackle Emporium or whatever, which is 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.920 located in the rented ride of moving truck park behind 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.479 Lucky Wayne's mother's row home. Anyway, he's need to buy 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.919 ship for the sorry excuse for a stripe of fisherman 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.039 in your life. And let me tell you everything. I 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.440 got his price to move, but one day only by 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.960 any NASCAR commemorative plate, get too free. Drill a hole 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.760 in him, attach a big travel hook, and your mouke 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.159 husband won't know. They ain't the same bunk of spoons. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.000 Every lazy sack of shit troller he idolizes on the 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.159 internets is pulling around the harbor. Use heard of the 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.280 tickle me Elmo? We got the tickle a momo. It's 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.520 just a piece of broom handle with two google eyes 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.159 super lute on it. Stick it in a glass case. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.920 Tell your boyfriend it's a limit edition plug from some 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.520 Rhode Island tool shed. He'll think you spend more than 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.400 the two dollars I'm asking. And everybody's happy, especially him, 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.520 because he don't actually fish anyway. Well, so if you 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.680 need something for the mini mooks in your life, I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.719 got a float of official Disney ball caps. They got 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.960 Tom and Jerry on them as some ship. I take 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.680 twenty bucks apiece just to get rid of them. Finally, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.880 remember another, says Mary Christmers. Look scrap lead undo the 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.640 Hanuka bush. So if you got any, bring it down 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.440 when you stop by the store. It's like toys for tots, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.800 only it's scraped lead for Bob the garbage man and 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.719 maybe Kenny the Benny if he gets out of the 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.720 rehab soon. For every pound we receive, I'll probably donate 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.560 at least fifty of that to a near show underwater environment. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.080 So come on down and climb into our rented truck 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.800 late at night. If we ain't here, come back later. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.799 But do not do not knock on the door because 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.640 Wayne's mother is sick. It sleeps like twenty two hours 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:07.000 a day. Jesus man, I actually kind of regret sharing that. Um, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:08.800 you know, if you if you ever to like take 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.240 him up on some of those like really exciting deals there, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.920 make sure you bring a buddy and let at least 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.520 a couple of people know exactly where you are and 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.559 what time to call the cops if you're not back 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.880 you know anyhow, Um, speaking of deals, right, I thought 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.640 I thought an honor of Black Friday and uh and shopping, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.040 we could play a little game. What's that all right? 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.000 Well everyone knows, right. I think you can really get 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.880 some really good deals out of infomercials if you if 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:40.520 you call like while they're playing, right, good deals scams 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:46.160 six and one half exactly, sham wow, sham not wow. Whatever. Well, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:47.840 this idea came to me. So I was half asleep 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.400 on the couch not long ago, trying to get over 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.480 that cold I had when I sounded like assid on 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.520 this show. Um, and you know when you're sick, and 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.280 I passed it on the couch, Yeah yeah, yeah whatever, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.520 ZINGI zon me, zing me anyway, you know when you're 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.200 just sick and you're like pass that on the couch 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.400 and like you're kind of in and out of it. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.520 I passed that and like woke up and there was 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.120 some infomercial on. Now in between, like drifting off to dreamland, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.760 I would just catch little snippets of them describing what 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.680 they were selling. And I got to thinking, right, there 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.800 are so many well known cult classic infomercials for fishing gear, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.560 like every angler knows them and and makes fun of them. Right, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:29.320 so would you be able? I thought to recognize them 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.160 by just a quick SoundBite. I think I see where 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.000 you're going with this, Yes you do. So here we go, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.400 right and honor Black Friday. I created a little game 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.480 for you to play. Okay, we're gonna test your metal. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.440 I'm gonna see you up a couple of clips. Well 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.840 we'll pepper something throughout the show here, and you're gonna 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.480 guess is it fishing gear or exercise equipment that they're 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.880 trying to sell you based just on this one clip? 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.880 All right, they're all one or the other. Nice, I 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.480 like it all right? Here here comes clip number one 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.480 three of this random directional action. It goes out down 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:10.200 sideways all over the place. We think, man, what's being 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.480 sold there? Fishy stuff or exercise equipment. It's either like 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.600 one of those like Darta round soft plastics, or it's 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:25.040 like some sort of like core stability thing. I'm gonna, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.880 I'm gonna, I'm gonna get I'm gonna guess that's fishing 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.920 it is? And yeah, you were you were right. You 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.920 got that one, My friend that right, there's the classic 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.520 banjo minnow right, exactly what I thought it was. There, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.320 You go, banjo man, Try and find a good deal 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.640 over Thanksgiving weekend on that one, my friend. You know 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.440 what I'm saying, it could be a hard one. Well, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:50.839 speaking of Thanksgiving, you know what Thanksgiving always reminds me of? 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:56.280 What is that? Steelhead? I think at this point, having 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.319 hung out with you for a while, that I could 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.200 do word associations and be like desk Lamp and you'd 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:06.560 be like steel Head, be like Honda Accord, steel Head. Everything, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.880 everything reminds you of Steelhead. I actually do have a 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.000 steel that story about a Honda record. Hey man, look, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.520 I should never give you ship for talking about snakeheads. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.840 Oh I'm Ji surmey. I caught a snake head. It 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.600 was ten pounds. Why doesn't everybody like snakeheads? I can't 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.160 help what I'm into. Okay, okay, okay, I'm just busting 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.839 your chops anyway, Steelhead, what about them? Tell us something? No, 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.000 you're you're You're right? I do. I do talk about 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.400 steel it all the time. Also, snakeheads are coolest shit. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.760 In fact, I went back and I watched rewatched season 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.360 two episode two of b side and I really want 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.640 to get a snakehead now. Um, it will make it 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:49.320 happen this year. This year it's winter two. Sorry, I 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.840 don't know what year it is anymore. Yeah, either way, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:56.880 sucks getting old man. Anyhow, Before you derailed me, I 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.160 was going to, oh so smoothly segue into your we're 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:05.000 guest Joe Uh Steelhead Guide Pat Keim, Oh got you? 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.400 Got you? Fair enough? My bad, Pat Steelhead Pat Yes 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:20.720 in this week's edition of Smooth Moves. Why joining us 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.960 today for Smooth Moves on old buddy of mine from Milwaukee, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.720 one of my favorite cities. By the way, Pat Keam 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.360 of Pat keem Guide Services here, Pat how Art, thou 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.920 my friend, I'm pretty good man. How are you guys? Good? 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.040 We are good? And um, I'm actually glad you and 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.240 Hayden our meeting because you're kindred spirits in the Great 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.920 Lakes steel scene. And I gotta say this is no joke. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.280 So we fished together a few years ago, um, and 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.480 I was blown away by the steelhead fishing basically in 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:56.600 Milwaukee proper. It's like it's like urban steel. And even 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.040 then it was like the fishing was kind of slow. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.480 You know, like, you know, we did great, but by 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.439 your standards, it was slow. I know that. Yeah it 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.600 was like four or five fish, five or six fish, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.080 but we had just the one day to do it. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:13.280 But like good, I mean, yeah, four or five fish 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.240 these days obviously is like okay, that was a great day. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.280 But like we're still seeing like ten to like twelve 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.600 fish days and then some some instances in the spring 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.800 we'll see fifteen plus sometimes out of the same wall. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.040 Well what I what I thought was so cool about 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.880 it being that close to downtown was you know a 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.360 lot of these still had places across the Great Lakes. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:34.960 It's like you have these these little sort of one 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.559 horse kind of towns with this bar in this restaurant 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.800 and they have their own vibe going. But to be 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.000 able to do that and then hang out in Milwaukee 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.640 that just has so much great like food and bars 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.719 and culture and other cool stuff to see and hang out, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.440 it's a very different setting. I loved it. Oh yeah, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.880 I mean I I wouldn't feel quite comfortable like steel 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.440 head fishing somewhere where there isn't graffiti on your bridges 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.360 or shopping carts in in the in the river. And 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.000 now the new thing in the river is all the 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:06.520 weird scooters that we have around. There's electronic ones where 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.040 you can just like kind of take them on the app. Yeah, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.600 there's got to be some razor scooters I have. I 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.800 know a few rivers oddly where it's like they're full 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.800 of razor scooters. Yeah, I've seen razor scooters, but these 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.800 are like ones you can like use an app on 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.280 your phone, like kind of like Bubbler bikes, but it's 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:28.000 it's an electric scooter and all over the rivers. It's funny, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.160 and they're called birds, so it's like it was a 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.440 bird in the rivers. No way. Well it's so what's 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.280 cool is when I met you, you were just like, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.680 you know, man around town like we You were just 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.160 a local dude that fished. And since then you have 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.640 kicked off officially your own guide service, which I think 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.480 is very cool and unique, and because you know Milwaukee 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.520 so well, like I think you should expand that beyond 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.800 foot guiding, like you could just do like General General 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.840 General Milwaukee Tours, so like Steelhead And then I'm going 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.320 to show you the Bronze fond I'm gonna take you 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.320 for the Bloody all with the half of chicken in 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.720 it and then like you make more money that way. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.760 It's actually I mean, I'm kind of glad that you 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:11.760 said that. So new idea. So you've only how many 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.400 Remind me how long you've officially been a guide for hire. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.920 Hasn't been that many seasons? Right this this season two? Okay, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.080 so season two, this is very new. Um, and you 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.320 you it's all on foot. You don't you don't do 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.920 any boat guiding, so you are just taking people to 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.640 all the fisheries. What how far outside the city do 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.600 you go? You stay pretty close right, Um? Yeah, we 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.240 really don't leave. Um, it's still considered the city. It's uh, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.640 it's a small the village of Glendale, which is still Milwaukee. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.080 Anywhere anywhere further north of that, I'm the Milwaukee River. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.160 There's not any sort of number of opportunities on fish whatsoever. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.960 It might be one, if you're lucky, you should brand 0:14:52.000 --> 0:15:00.200 these as Milwauking waiting tours Milwauking. That's good. Anyway, let's 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.720 get down to it. Man, So you've only been gotten 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.520 for two seasons. But we talked a little bit about this. Um, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.320 you know, great legs steel foot guiding in the city. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 I knew you would have something. So the floor is 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.520 yours for smooth moves man hit us all right, Um, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.880 let's see. So I've been thinking this already a few times. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.200 I wanted to start by saying that these two specific 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.480 customers of mine were incredible customers and great dudes to 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.080 fish with and great juds to hang out with. Good start. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.800 I'm not so much roasted him, but I just because 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.720 I know that they'll probably hear it, and they'll know 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.720 that it's then when they hear it. But this is 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:44.920 during chinook this year. Um, it was mid September, getting 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.560 towards the end, but we had already been seeing some 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.960 some chinook ground. It was still super slow, um, but 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.160 we were catching fish and it was very hard because 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.280 it was so hot outside and the water was so 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.280 hot that these fish would only eat right at sunner 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.240 eyes and they wouldn't even need it at at sundown. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.400 It was like just when they feel the water real 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.000 small window. Yeah. So when when we first got there, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.200 like I wanted to get them a big fish, and 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.680 they're standing there, we're like talking whatever, and I say, hey, listen, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.560 do not take your your eye off of that bobber 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.520 for any reason. Don't look away from it, because if 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.640 the second, the half a second that you do, it's 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.200 going under and you're gonna miss it. Um. Not thirty 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.560 seconds later, I'm staring over um the one guy's shoulder, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.880 and um, the other guy cracked a joke and he 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840 looks over at him to respond to that, and over 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:43.440 his shoulder, that float just goes down and I screamed too, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.960 I'm just like bober bober, and he like almost falls over, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.640 like going to get his other hand in the rod 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.240 and he it happened so fast that he didn't even 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.440 get to see the bobber come back up. I did, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.400 but he it just went down right back up and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.960 that quick of a hit. Yeah. Yeah, So right after 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.080 that happened the same dude. Um, he looked down at 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.240 his feet to shovel up, shovel over to the next 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.920 rock like boulder. Whatever happened again happened a second time, 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.480 and he missed the fish. Um. He never got to 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.480 see the bobber go under or come back up again. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:21.359 This all happened within sixty seconds, and it maybe it 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.880 just didn't quite take me as seriously as he thought. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.480 You know, I'm like, dude, this is gonna because it 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.640 happens to us all the time, Like we'll look away 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.840 for a split second, bobbers under set the hook because 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.320 you know, we were there quick enough. Or sometimes it'll 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.199 it'll take the bober under while you're not looking, and 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.720 it'll take it so hard it will load the rod. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.399 that didn't happen, unfortunately, but I wish it did, but 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.479 that um it did not, unfortunately. So and then we 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.440 fished the rest of that day, which is day one, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.200 for another six hours. They never even got so much 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.320 as another nibble. So I'm like, don't look away from 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.760 the bobber ever, but they too. We hopped in the 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.120 river as like, please be on time. It's the same deal. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.080 We're only going to have this window in the morning 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.320 to get you know, one or two bober downs right away, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.360 maybe four or five before lucky we get in the river. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.080 They didn't look away from their bobbers this time. They 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.840 got hooked up to catch a fish. Blah blah blah. 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.840 Sun comes up and that whole we were in just 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.320 got it, just got blanketed in sunlight. It was like 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.600 out of all the holes in the stretcher of fishing, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.280 that was the first one to get it, and I 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.760 was like, come on, So the in the spot that 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.040 we're fishing at is um as far as waiting goes 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.960 to get upstream or really like to get downstream anywhere 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.000 for that matter, it's uh, you got you have to 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.480 get up on the bank. And the bank is covered 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.640 and broken concrete from old like you know, old ship 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.639 because it's an old shipping channel. So all those old 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.639 concrete shipping docks are there, but they're busted up and 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.480 turned into you know, bank rip wrap and laying around 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:04.120 couple of scooters and like I mentioned, those uh, those 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.240 old concrete you know docks um up in this spot. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.920 There are still flat pieces of it that are embedded 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.240 in the bank that you can stand on, you know, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.080 it's nice to level. Some of them are on an angle. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.680 So this one specific one that he's standing on is 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.720 it's on a just a slight pitch and the bottom 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.960 corner of it is submerged in the water. So he's 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.280 standing there fishing and I look over and I see 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.160 that his feet, both of his feet, he's pretty much 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.880 standing like you know, feet together, and he's hanging ten 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.800 right off the end of this And so I turned 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.800 and I see that, and I look at him and like, hey, buddy, uh, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.760 make sure that you know where your feet are right now? 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.399 And he's like looking at me and he's kind of 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.040 telling a story. I was like, make sure you know 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.760 where your feet are. Not not more than maybe two 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.640 minutes later, I was like looking upstream at the other guys, 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.760 see what he was doing. I just hear this crash 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.720 and a splash. He's in. He's in. Yeah, he went 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.520 down and um he didn't go like all the way 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.000 in and and unfortunately it happened so fast I didn't 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.280 actually get to turn my head quick enough to see it, 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.159 like how like how much he fell in? But he 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.240 was just like almost looking at me immediately, like for like, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.800 oh my god, how pissed Izzy? Or so you aren't 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.320 watching your clients the way you wanted them to watch 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.800 their floats, is what you're saying. He was watching sports clients. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.080 I was trying to watch. And that's funny you say that, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.920 because like by fish personally, I don't fish too bobbers too, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.440 because that's the exact reason why. Because one's gonna go under, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.080 you're gonna be looking at the other one. So this 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.920 guy went under because I was looking at the other one. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.359 I told him, you know so, but he's like clown 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.320 his way back up real quick, and and I was like, 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.320 are you okay. He's like, yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.360 I'm fine, I'm okay. And I was like, I just 0:20:50.440 --> 0:21:00.520 told everybody whoever falls in is always fine, because he, honestly, 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.720 God had that expression on his face, so like I 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.040 meant to do that. I totally meant to do that, 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.760 but no, I just kind of shook my head and 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.280 I was like, you know, I just don't want anybody 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.600 get hurt. Safety is my first priority because I think 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:18.080 of safety, think of bat Key. That team is number 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:23.280 one safety guy. This is a story about a bunch 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.600 of people missing, a bunch of things happening. Man. But 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:32.600 you know what's funny myself, they're not looking, You're not looking, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:38.760 but nobody's looking. But you know what, though, man like 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.560 you caught him fish that day, and I any any 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.159 guy I've ever talked to, it's like some really bad 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.600