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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Three how podcast with me John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff back at it again. Just finished watching Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: football and you know, really I only have one thing

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Speaker 1: to say. How about what a freaking win by the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We'll dive into that here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Just what a what a cool Thursday night game? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you talk about the Monday night game? I guess one

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Speaker 1: was it last week last Monday, and so not this Monday.

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Speaker 1: We're talking ten days ago game of the year. I

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Speaker 1: still like a good thirteen to ten game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it puts me back to my roots. We'll we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into a bunch of different things. I mean, the Bears

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Speaker 1: are sneaky a lot five for a home field by

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Speaker 1: after this lost by the Saints, they still play the

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Speaker 1: Panthers twice coming down the home stretch. Clearly the Saints

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Speaker 1: are really good, but the Bears have a problem on

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Speaker 1: their hands. Will dive into that. Cliff Kingsbury, USC Trojan's

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, have some thoughts on that. Do some Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail bag, maybe dive in, uh to a couple other

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Speaker 1: games as we do usually go around the weekend, just

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Speaker 1: getting ready. But you know, again, and Middlecoff mail bag.

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Speaker 1: You can slide up into my d m at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: What a game? What I mean? Just glued to my television.

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Speaker 1: Luckily I got two TV, so I had the Warriors

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Speaker 1: game on no sound and I had that Bad Boy

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Speaker 1: on what I mean Fox? The Fox broadcast is so

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Speaker 1: good you can say what you want. I'm a Joe

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Speaker 1: Buck guy, Troykman. So good that that the feel when

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Speaker 1: you're at Jerry's Palace, Uh, that there's nothing like it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Yankee Stadium, you know, the Red Sox. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Big Laker game. There's nothing really an equivalent in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. May maybe like Duke basketball at Cambon and

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Speaker 1: georg Stadium. That place was rocking. I saw someone tweet

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Speaker 1: out there were that plus thousand Jerry going nuts. That

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Speaker 1: was just awesome. I hated on the Cowboys earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season. I've since taken that back over the last month,

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Speaker 1: especially since they got of a Marie Cooper who that

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Speaker 1: that's looking like a pretty smart trade now that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are seven and five. Was that four straight wins?

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Speaker 1: They have not lost since A Mari showed up the

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Speaker 1: town and all I guess they did lose his first

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Speaker 1: game because they played the Tennessee Titans. But he's changed

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Speaker 1: the dynamic, uh dynamics of their offense. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the reason they turned this thing around. Their defense in

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Speaker 1: an offensive league, and I trust me, I'm the one

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Speaker 1: banging the drum as much as anyone adapter die. You

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Speaker 1: gotta hire an offensive coach, draft offense, signed offense. I

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, like I'm not I'm not backing

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Speaker 1: off that. But the key to me to even have

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Speaker 1: a chance, it's not the old school, just out tough,

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Speaker 1: you play good run defense. You gotta do one thing

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Speaker 1: really well because the one area on the field that

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Speaker 1: even though the rules have changed, that you can still

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Speaker 1: be physical and you can still dominate. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go football guy comment here is at the point of attack,

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, your defensive lineman and their

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Speaker 1: defensive pass rush is elite. The other thing you need

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Speaker 1: to be able to do in two thousand and eighteen

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Speaker 1: could just have a stiff in the middle. And again,

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Speaker 1: this guy is not a stiff. I'm a big Bill

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Speaker 1: Romanowski guy. But that type player, just the run stuffing

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, there was a big difference of

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Speaker 1: the You have a two down mic linebacker and then

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Speaker 1: you would have a third down quote unquote nickel linebacker.

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Speaker 1: What does that even mean anymore? You would have that

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Speaker 1: single snap. That that two down middle linebacker, that human

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Speaker 1: is dead, you know what? Two And that's why when

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners took off with Jim Harbaugh, Willis and Bowman,

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Speaker 1: it was the time when the game was somewhat transitioning

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Speaker 1: but still kind of caught up in the middle, and

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Speaker 1: those two guys were just the ultimate players. Now that's

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Speaker 1: the high end, and these guys aren't that yet. But

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Speaker 1: again they're they're not built Willison Bowman, I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 1: but Layton vander esh LV and Jalen Smith are absolute

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Speaker 1: violence in football. I enjoy I thoroughly enjoyed that night. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that game today tonight of just people getting blasted. And

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Speaker 1: good old school brawl where two teams just hitting each

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Speaker 1: other in the teeth. And Layton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to overreact or hyperbole, but it

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Speaker 1: he has to tread lightly, but he's tight with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He's probably good friends with Shawn Lee, like Sean Lee.

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Speaker 1: And they asked, they kept talking about this on the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: and you know, pump up the crowd, and if they

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Speaker 1: fifty five and fifty four are not coming off the

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Speaker 1: they have to because they're injured. You are writing and

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Speaker 1: dying with fifty five and fifty four. And now listen.

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Speaker 1: I think Sean Lee in his prime was a stud.

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Speaker 1: Part of the region vander Esh is on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have been this year if they just would have drafted

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Speaker 1: some other position, they would have had no linebacker. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh has changed their whole team because Jalen Smith clearly

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Speaker 1: was ready to take a step this year. His achilles

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Speaker 1: in a league where you know it's hard to find

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Speaker 1: linebackers that can run, that can play sideline to sideline now,

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Speaker 1: and that are just good open field tacklers. That's often

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Speaker 1: what we hear about because the one of the downsides,

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Speaker 1: and really it's so stupid the players. You know, when

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Speaker 1: they got in the last collective bargaining agreement, they bitched

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Speaker 1: the owners are like, yeah, we need more money. They're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: just no more practices. And that last lack of practice

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Speaker 1: time has led to poor tackling. But vander esh clearly

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Speaker 1: whether it's the three man football, we've heard the story

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Speaker 1: he played when he was in high school. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where he learned the fundamental of Boise State. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: but he is a tackling machine. And DeMarcus Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: free agency? He's he's gonna be a free agent. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's going nowhere. No one lets pass rushers

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Speaker 1: And again, Grandy Gregory was getting destroyed on social media

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Speaker 1: even though the neutral zone infraction was pretty bs like,

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Speaker 1: it like they have more experience than any other crew

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Speaker 1: I'm not anti older people, but it's hard for certain

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Speaker 1: the NFL, like after age sixty five, Like it should

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Speaker 1: be mandatory retirement like that. That hell, maybe even sixty

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Speaker 1: like that was a joke tonight. That was an embarrassment

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Speaker 1: on both sides. You know, on both sides. Just now.

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Speaker 1: They did get the final call the past interference on

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Speaker 1: a marit like he grabbed his arm, like you have

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Speaker 1: to call that. But some of the other calls, they

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Speaker 1: intense game. You have to have better refereeing. But man,

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Speaker 1: that defensive lineman that I mean, that defensive line, that

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Speaker 1: a stud. Remember that argument we used to have, like

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Speaker 1: all the Cowboys should have taken Jalen Ramsey. Oh you

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Speaker 1: mean that guy that never shuts up, and he's a

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Speaker 1: good corner. Don't get me wrong. I'm you might be

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Speaker 1: and watch a Cowboys game and they would come right

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Speaker 1: away with like Jesus, that defense just hole's ass. They

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Speaker 1: are constantly redlining that that was as impressive of a

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Speaker 1: line we've seen in a while. I like Dallas. I

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Speaker 1: put a little cash on Dallas on the game, just

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Speaker 1: simply because, and I didn't have a great explanation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the great offenses we've ever seen with

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, with Sean Payton. You know, my My my

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Speaker 1: argument was simple. Listen, I'm not I don't have the

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Speaker 1: analytics in front of me on this one. But in

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Speaker 1: the in the last twenty years, how many NFL teams

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Speaker 1: have won eleven games in a row? Like how impossible

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Speaker 1: that is? Like if you go thirteen and three, which

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Speaker 1: is an incredible record, and I would say, of seasons,

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Speaker 1: you might at most have like a six game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: Like the chances today of them winning eleven games in

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Speaker 1: a row, just in general, Like, how difficult that is?

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Speaker 1: I think how impressive it is. Like the Texans right

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Speaker 1: that sounds simplistic, but it's so. It is so hard

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Speaker 1: to win in the NFL. I mean that that game.

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Speaker 1: First off, this wasn't a normal Thursday game because they

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Speaker 1: had both played on Thanksgiving, so they had a normal

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Speaker 1: amount of rest, which definitely benefited the Cowboys. Like do

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have that defensive performance just playing out of

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Speaker 1: their ass if they were on a short week. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. So that really helped the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: just having seven days, Like, I just don't think they

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Speaker 1: they their roster would still look good. But you have

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Speaker 1: to think green Bay was bounced back, Minnesota's roster is

428
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Speaker 1: still loaded. The NFC is just good. You know, it's

429
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Speaker 1: just hard to make the playoffs in the NFC. So

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Speaker 1: I I do think that, unlike Khalil, if Mitch was

431
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Speaker 1: able to play they play, so to me, it's a

432
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Speaker 1: pretty big concern that he's nowhere to be found and

433
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Speaker 1: they got a lot to lose. I mean, this is

434
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Speaker 1: a team that's arrows pointing sky high like they're ascending

435
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Speaker 1: this year that they could make serious noise, but they

436
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: cannot do it with Chase Daniels. For those of you

437
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: that don't follow me on Twitter at John middle Coops

438
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: same as my Instagram fall away. But I've taken some

439
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: crap and I said it actually was. I believed it

440
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: when I said it, but listen, I I get the

441
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: counter argument that Alabama would beat the Raiders, and then

442
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: somehow the following week the conversation morphed with Alabama beat

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and I kept thinking, like no, I said,

444
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: the Raiders in Sports Center ran with it, and all

445
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: these internet companies ran with it. I just kept thinking,

446
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: and they were twenty eight. Someone said that one of

447
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: the Vegas you know, bookmakers made the Alabama Crimson tied

448
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: a twenty eight point underdog the Bills, and I was like, well,

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: the Bills are dramatically better than the Raiders. I would

450
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Speaker 1: take if you gave the Alabama Crimson tide twenty points

451
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Speaker 1: against this Raiders team, like the one it was a

452
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, not the one that started the

453
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Speaker 1: season with Marshawn Lance, Donald Panna, Marii Cooper, like the

454
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Speaker 1: team they were rolling out the last couple of weeks.

455
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Speaker 1: I would take the twenty points. And I I've tried

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Speaker 1: to put in perspective this Alabama team for people, and

457
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Speaker 1: especially people on the West Coast. I don't think they're

458
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Speaker 1: quite as locked into how good this Alabama team is

459
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: just and they don't quite understand recruiting and just how

460
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Speaker 1: many pro true pros they have. And at text and

461
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: buddies that that covered the SEC for different NFL teams,

462
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: they will tell you when you ask how many NFL

463
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Speaker 1: players they have, as good buddy of mine responded every

464
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Speaker 1: player that's on scholarship. I mean again kind of tongue

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Speaker 1: in cheek but not really and then asking about who's

466
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Speaker 1: the best players in this SEC championship game, which I'm

467
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Speaker 1: super excited for because I actually think Georgia there's a

468
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Speaker 1: chance that they are just better than Oklahoma and Ohio State.

469
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Speaker 1: And if you listen to the podcast on Monday, you

470
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Speaker 1: know that I think that the college FOOTBA playoffs that

471
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Speaker 1: they both win, just end up going with Oklahoma on

472
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Speaker 1: the simple fact to just avoid the urban and I

473
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Speaker 1: forget the coach's name that he fired, but the domestic

474
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Speaker 1: violence and him tweeting it Tom Herman about the massage parlors.

475
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Speaker 1: Just avoid that whole mess. But right now, the line

476
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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half, I think there's a chance that

477
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Speaker 1: George actually plays him pretty tight. Even if they lose

478
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Speaker 1: by twenty, they might be the fourth best team. It

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Speaker 1: may be that they actually might be better than Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: It might just go Obama, Clemson, Georgia might be the

481
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Speaker 1: third best team. We'll never find out. George will probably

482
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Speaker 1: get knocked out of the mix. But ultimately point is

483
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Speaker 1: to put this team in perspective. This Alabama team has

484
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Speaker 1: a chance if they win three more games against Georgia

485
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Speaker 1: and then against Oklahoma and then let's say against Clemson,

486
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Speaker 1: who has three defensive linemen, they're gonna go in the

487
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Speaker 1: top twenty. Like to be go down. Is one of

488
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Speaker 1: the great all time teams in college football history. And

489
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Speaker 1: my I asked my buddy, like, who are the best prospects?

490
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Speaker 1: Because writing this article for the Athletic of just some

491
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Speaker 1: prospects that nine are in writer fans should be looking

492
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Speaker 1: at when they watch all the games this weekend. Just

493
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Speaker 1: a SEC you know, all the all the different conferences.

494
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Speaker 1: But I asked about the SEC championship. So who are

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Speaker 1: the best players in Alabama? Obviously number ninety two Quinn

496
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Speaker 1: and Williams. Who's gonna go in the top three or

497
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Speaker 1: four picks. He's like Aaron Donald meets no Dominican sue.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's just a it's not even

499
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Speaker 1: a fair it's a cheap code. What he is. Hell,

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Speaker 1: he might go number one overall, like he's that good.

501
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Speaker 1: But by Buddy responded, well, actually, like their next four

502
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: best players are all sophomores. I started, and he's like,

503
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Speaker 1: obviously one is the quarterback. So you start thinking this

504
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: Alabama team that's the widest, the star wide receiver, the

505
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Speaker 1: star quarterback, a couple of star offensive lineman and they

506
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: just produce offensive lineman easily anyway, uh star middle linebacker.

507
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: Like I hope people realize that this team at Alabama. Again,

508
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Speaker 1: everyone I talked to and anyone you listening that have

509
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: watched them play, they are an absolute machine. Like I

510
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: think Clemson is the clear second best team, and they

511
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Speaker 1: are on a completely different level. But the craziest thing

512
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Speaker 1: is they got everyone coming back, or I mean a

513
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Speaker 1: large majority of guys coming back next year. And the

514
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Speaker 1: main guy, the quarterback, is coming back, the wide receiver

515
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Speaker 1: coming back, the star inside linebacker coming back. So it's

516
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Saban was ever gonna retire. It wouldn't be after this year,

517
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: after he wins another Natty. Would be after next year,

518
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: when he's got this whole squad returning. It would be

519
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Speaker 1: the equivalent if you've watched Duke basketball this year, Zion Williams,

520
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: Cam Reddish and r J. Barrett that I mean they

521
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: they and the Tias Jones brother they look like an

522
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Speaker 1: NBA team. I mean, they're so talented. Just imagine if

523
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Speaker 1: I told you actually they all they're all gonna return,

524
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: you'd be like, what huh, That's exactly what Alabama is.

525
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Speaker 1: They're all gonna return. Think about say that out loud

526
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Speaker 1: when you watch them Saturday night, because listen, the SEC

527
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Speaker 1: Championship is by far. Besides, I'm a little bias friends

528
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Speaker 1: of State, Boise State the best game of that Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Actually Oklahoma text is pretty good too. But the college

530
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Football Weekend is pretty solid, but alb because I would

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Speaker 1: say that Georgia. It's like if Texas were to beat Oklahoma,

532
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Speaker 1: that'd be a big deal because Oklahoma would be getting

533
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Speaker 1: bounced out. But at the end of the day of

534
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma gonna beat Alaba amma. Like if Georgia were to

535
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Speaker 1: upset Alabama, it would be one of the bigger upsets

536
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: in recent memory, just given how good Alabama has been.

537
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Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is, like, even Obama doesn't win

538
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: this national championship, they are going to be the heavy

539
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Speaker 1: heavy favorites to be the national champion again next year.

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Speaker 1: So when people ask, like, oh, middle cough, they could

541
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Speaker 1: never hang with the NFL team, an NFL team has

542
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Speaker 1: twenty two pros, And yeah, the Bills do. Actually, I

543
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: mean they they may have some starters on offense that

544
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: are not NFL players. Well, I'll promise you one thing.

545
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: The Raiders do not have twenty two pros. They have

546
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Speaker 1: several players that would not start at Alabama. That's not hyperbole,

547
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: that's not a hot take. That's reality. And that can

548
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: only be said because they have one of the greatest

549
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Speaker 1: college football teams of all time up to this point.

550
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: Like that's just a fact, just like there there would

551
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Speaker 1: be NBA players that are in the NBA that would

552
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: not start over Zion Williams. That's just a fact. I mean,

553
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: it's just that's not hyperbole, that's not you know, just

554
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: trying to like get a reaction. That's just react. That's

555
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: just the truth. That's not an opinion. So when you

556
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Speaker 1: look at Tah and you look at these guys, just

557
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: know this that this is Nick Saban's most explosive team ever.

558
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: And a lot of these dudes in two thousand nineteen,

559
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: when you you know, hit the couch in early September,

560
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I guess the college football season usually starts late August,

561
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: and Alabama's playing whoever on that neutral site college football opener.

562
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna remember a lot of these guys from this team.

563
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: They were all starting. They were all playing. Patrick Certain

564
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: the starting, the corner who starts on this team is

565
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: a true freshman. His father played in the NFL. That's

566
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Speaker 1: where you hear the name Patrick Certain, Yeah, that's the kid.

567
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: So this team is just stupid, uh and I can't

568
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: wait to watch it. Well, I'd say the biggest college

569
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Speaker 1: football story of this week, non on the field, non

570
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: one of these games they are about to take place.

571
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Speaker 1: This weekend has been usc I gotta start with one thing.

572
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Speaker 1: This kind of bothers me. I'm I'm what you call.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a Pack twelve homer because I'm a realist,

574
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: but I'm a huge Pack twelve fan. Like it's my

575
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Speaker 1: favorite conference because it's where I grew up. I grew

576
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: up watching all these teams, like I grew up on

577
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I grew up going to cow football games.

578
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: Like the programs means something to me. And as someone

579
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: that did not go to a big school, I went

580
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: to cal Poly Division one Double A. We've produced a

581
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: couple of guys over the years, Chris go Kong, Ramsey's Barton.

582
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: We have our fair share of NFL guys, But by

583
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: no means was it wasn't a it wasn't a Pac

584
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Speaker 1: twelve Pac ten school, you know. I mean, it's just

585
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: a different level. So I live vicariously through them. And

586
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: I always kind of stuck up for Pete Carroll and

587
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: those teams, not that they needed it, but I'm just saying,

588
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: like how dominant they were in Tedford's teams and just

589
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: the Oregon teams. Like I took pride on our good

590
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: West Coast teams. Well, I know this year, certain people

591
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: in the media you know, always say the SEC gets

592
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, and listen, haven't worked in

593
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. They get the benefit out for the reason

594
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: they have the most talent. It ain't even close. Well,

595
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: you can complain and bitch and moan all you want

596
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Speaker 1: about the amount of teams in the you know, top

597
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Speaker 1: twenty five. I think the SEC is eight and obviously

598
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Speaker 1: they have you know L s U s a three

599
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: lost team in the top ten. That doesn't bother me.

600
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Like L s U on a neutral field would throttle

601
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: like to me with throttle, Michigan with throttle, Washington would

602
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: throttle UH Texas it kill them, So it doesn't bother me. Now,

603
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't even think the PAC twelve is like this year.

604
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: I got news for everyone. The Pack twelve is closer

605
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: to the Mountain West than it is like the Big

606
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: twelve or the Big ten. So when you hear all

607
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: the Big ten in the Big twelve of the Pack

608
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: twelve or getting the same respect as the SEC, well,

609
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Speaker 1: this year, that conversation cannot be had included in the

610
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Speaker 1: PAC twelve. They do not deserve it like they are

611
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: not in that category, and that pains me to set.

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00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I love the West Coast. It's where I was Born's

613
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: where I've lived the majority of my life. It's well,

614
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: it's where I'll be buried and more than likely where

615
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna raise my children. You can never say never,

616
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: because you know, life changes. The world's flat. You know,

617
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: who knows. I might be living in like China in

618
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: ten years. But the point is, like I'd be the

619
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Speaker 1: first guy if a team is deserving to stand up

620
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: for him and they're not. Like when I got to

621
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, everyone laughed like, oh, Boise State, what's up

622
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: with this Boise State? Actually, you know the only guy

623
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: that didn't. I remember one time dropping something off at

624
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: his office and he's like, middlecoff, what's up with Boise State?

625
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Like do they have something special in their in their water?

626
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: And it was Sean McDermott. And this was actually back

627
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: in two thousand ten when Chris Peterson had a team

628
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: with like seventeen NFL guys and I said that team

629
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: could compete. You know that that team deserved to go

630
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: to a BCS game. And that was the year that

631
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and they ended up missing a field goal, but

632
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: that that team was legit. I promise you. I worked

633
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: in Fresson State for two years. I had a front

634
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: row seat watching that program when those guys were young.

635
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I missed them when they were juniors and seniors. The

636
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore titish young pett Stay had a ton of

637
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: defensive guys. George Aoca that they were unreal. I mean

638
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: they were awesome. Now are they like this Obama or

639
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: l s U level. No, But that team, that version

640
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Speaker 1: of that team was really good. But my point is

641
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve does not deserve to be in the conversation.

642
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: And one of the main issues is the PAC twelves

643
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: main program. Like the Big twelve. They're good when Oklahoma's

644
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: kicking ass. The Big ten is good when when Ohio

645
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: State or Michigan's kicking ass. The SEC is good when

646
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: like obviously Alabama, LSU or Florida's kicking ass. The Pac

647
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: twelve is good when SC is kicking ass. And right

648
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: now they were a joke. It's one thing to have

649
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: a down year, like to me, a down year at

650
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: a school like SC, at a school like Bama, at

651
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: a school like All State, at school like l s

652
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: U is eight and four. That's just an awful year.

653
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Eight and four. Well, if you get sanctions or some

654
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: crazy things happen a coach leaves, I can give you up.

655
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: You know it's hell even seven and five. But under

656
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: no circumstances, I repeat zero, can the school like sc

657
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Alabama l s U with no sanctions, Like you

658
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: have the full amount of scholarships, it be okay to

659
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: go five and seven. It for two reasons. One, you

660
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: just have way too much talent on your roster to

661
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: ever go five and seven. There is zero excuses for it.

662
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: And two because the other schools in your conference are

663
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: depending on you to carry the flag. You'll make money

664
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Speaker 1: for them. Do you know how much money the SEC

665
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: has made over Alabama's run? Do you know how much

666
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: money the Big ten has made with Ohio State kicking

667
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: everyone's asked for the last fifteen years, the TV contracts

668
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: they've negotiated. I mean there's a reasy c them on

669
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: FS one and Fox like they're big brand end like

670
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: Michigan Harbor Michigan having Hardball and then being Attendant two

671
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: team like it was devastating them losing Ohio State, their

672
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: tendant too, you know, I mean, I see fans would

673
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: die to they went five and seven. Well, Clay Hilton,

674
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily think it was his choice. I

675
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: think it was kind of mandated. They just hired Cliff Kingsbury.

676
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: I got news for you, Like, if there is if

677
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: USC's offense is good next year and J. T. Daniels

678
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: excels or whoever the quarterback is has a lot of success,

679
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury will be the next head coach at USC.

680
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: One thing, just look at him. I mean he's just listen,

681
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I can call a spade to space. He's a really

682
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: good looking dude. You know, there is no disputing that

683
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: he looks the part two, he's an elite offensive coach.

684
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Look at all the quarterbacks he's recruited. Look at the

685
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: offensive numbers the Texas Tech and and uh, you know,

686
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: put up. Here's the other thing. At a school like USC,

687
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: I got friends in college football at big school small schools.

688
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: The difference of the pole low shirt you have on.

689
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: I always hear this, like the dude's a really good recruiter. Like, yeah,

690
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: if you're landing dudes, you're at Oregon State or Iowa State,

691
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, or just random schools like yeah, Kentucky, Like okay,

692
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you're a good recruiter. Like if you land NFL guys

693
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: at USC, You're not a good recruiter. You're just a

694
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: coach at USC. You just throw on the polo. You

695
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: walk into the high school and you have the USC

696
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: polo on, you have the Alabama polo on. You know,

697
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: you have like you work for coach k You roll

698
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: in with the Duke polo on. You're getting a meeting

699
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: with the best basketball player. You know. You walk into

700
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: the best high school and you have Oklahoma on your polo.

701
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: You got a chance to land the number one recruit

702
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: at that high school. That's the way the world works,

703
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: you know. So I I think the Cliff Kingsbury, if

704
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Speaker 1: the offense is good, is gonna be the next head coach.

705
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: Like I I think it's the writings already on the wall.

706
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Clay Helton will be out next year and Cliff Kingsbury

707
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: will be the next head coach at USC. And I

708
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know if that's a good or

709
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: bad thing. But for the pac twel they need USC

710
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: desperately to be good because right now them not being

711
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: good hurts the relevancy of the conference and also really

712
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: really hurts their pocketbooks. Okay, let's get to the middlecoff

713
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: mail bag. I got a lot of questions, so let's

714
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: just start banging him out. Hey, man, love the podcast.

715
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Why does no one ever give Mike tomlins do as

716
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: the top head coach in the league. Every time the

717
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: Steelers lose is always on Tomlin, But whenever they win,

718
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't get any credit. He might not be the

719
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: sexiest xs nose guy, but there is something to be

720
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: said on how he manages all the personalities in the

721
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: locker room and kept together and Levy on Bell good point.

722
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: I think it's simple. Whenever you're a coach who doesn't

723
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: call either side of the ball, and most defensive coaches

724
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: have a defensive coordinator, and then like Tomlin, they don't

725
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: call the offense, and I got news for you, they

726
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the offense. He just it's hard

727
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: to get credit. And I think Ben is such a

728
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: big personality, uh that he kind of steals some of

729
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: all and away from Tomlin. But I'm with you. I mean,

730
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: I think he's clearly a top five head coach in

731
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: the league. His resume speaks for itself. His teams are

732
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: always ready. He has bad losses, but so does any team.

733
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Speaker 1: I don't think Ben is the easiest, you know, quarterback

734
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: to deal with on a daily slash weekly basis. And

735
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: I think you bring up a great point in terms

736
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Speaker 1: of Levian Bell. He kept the team together. Antonio is

737
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: not the easiest guy to deal with. They got they

738
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: got a lot of personalities on the team. Now. The

739
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: thing that he doesn't ever have to deal with because

740
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: of the consistency in the organization, just this stability at

741
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the top, is there aren't ever rumors. You know, there

742
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: is no like, what's the let's take a look at

743
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: the hot seat, Like there is no hot seat. They've

744
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: had three coaches and like eight seventy five years. I

745
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: mean seriously, I think they've had three coaches, you know,

746
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: in the last I don't know what the act number is.

747
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: It's got to be like a right around fifty. That's

748
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: that's crazy. The Browns have had three coaches and like,

749
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, they'll have three coaches by February, Hugh Jackson, uh,

750
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: Greg Williams and then whoever they end up hiring. So

751
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a completely different world he lives

752
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: in from most. Jed York had a stretch where he went,

753
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, Jim tom Zula, Chip Kelly Uh, Kyle Shanahan.

754
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I swear to god, it was like forty months, you know,

755
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: forty months. I mean it's Mike Tomlin doesn't even can't

756
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: even relate to that so a lot, just because when

757
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: people know you're not going anywhere, the standard in that

758
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: organization is playoff wins. It's not like winning the division.

759
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: It's not just some cool regular season wins. Like that's

760
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: the standard. The expectation and what people expect, your fans,

761
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: your owner, even though you're not gonna get. It's like

762
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: win playoff games. But I remember a couple of years ago,

763
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Boom go on the road. You know, the first first

764
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: round they got Miami and Tanny Hill had been knocked out.

765
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: They kicked the crap out of him. But then they

766
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: went on the road too. I remember Jerry Macklin and

767
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: Alex Smith saying it was the best Kancity Chief team

768
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: they had been on. That was obviously before this year,

769
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: and they won. I mean that was he went on

770
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: the road to Kansas City in a tough environment in

771
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Speaker 1: one that's that's that's a heck of a playoff win,

772
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: and a playoff win like that, to me, carries you

773
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Now, last year was bad,

774
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: but in fairness to Tomlin, that Jacksonville Jaguar team gave

775
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: him the Patriots everything they could handle, you know, I

776
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: mean they lost two. Their defense isn't atrocious. I think

777
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: here's the other reason people get mad. It's like when

778
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: the defense socks or when the offense is off. It's

779
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: like Tomlin kind of takes the heat, but you know

780
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: he's not doing it. You know, it's just he's kind

781
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: of in control, but he's like he's not actually calling

782
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: any of the plays. He's got a good gig. You know,

783
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give it up. And he's just gotta be

784
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the coolest looking coach in NFL history. John, I'm a

785
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: huge Broncos fan from Philly. But my question is how

786
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: long do you think Thanks Joseph will last past the season?

787
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: And do you think if h he has a good

788
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: season that he will be there after two? Well, that

789
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: win against the Steelers was pretty big. They are they're

790
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: not dead, you know. Just to me, it depends how

791
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: they finished this season. If they get to eight and eight,

792
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: nine and seven with case Keenum. He's clearly not losing

793
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: his job. The team is playing really hard, it's responding

794
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: to him. It's actually kind of helped this year has

795
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: been a big year for Lway because a lot of

796
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: people were just taking a gigantic dump on John Elway

797
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: And I said this on Twitter like a week ago.

798
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, listen, most people, most gms, unless you's a

799
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: bad GM, if you're drafting in the top five, that

800
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: means you drafted in the top five every round. Well,

801
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: it's much easier to do that than it is if

802
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: you have a winning team. You know, it's hard to

803
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: draft players in the late twenties. That's why Bill Polians

804
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. He was a general manager

805
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: of playoff teams and he's still drafted a ton of

806
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 1: good players. Like, it's hard. It's not just the first round.

807
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Like draft in the twenties that means you're drafting in

808
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: the twenties in every round. Like, how does Belichick throw

809
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: together a team. Everyone's like, oh, he's not a good drafter.

810
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, he's been winning twelve games a year and

811
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Speaker 1: playing in the ANFC Championship every year for my entire

812
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: adult life. I mean his earliest draft pick is like eight.

813
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: Most times he's drafting thirty one and thirty two. Well,

814
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: that doesn't just mean the first round. That means in

815
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Speaker 1: the fourth round he has the last pick in the

816
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: fourth round or the second last pick in the fourth round.

817
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: That makes it hard. Well, what happened to John Elway

818
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: this year? Get a top five pick? What did he do?

819
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Crushed the draft? You know, I think John Elway is good.

820
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Now he hasn't found a quarterback and he hasn't found

821
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: a coach. Well, the coach is actually kind of riding

822
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: the ship a little bit. The quarterback case, Kingdom's a

823
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: band aid. He's gonna have to find a franchise quarterback.

824
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: But Chubb's good, Von Miller is still kicking ass. Their

825
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: defense is playing fantastic, Emmanuel Sanders still playing well. They

826
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: got some value for Damarius Thomas. Philip lindsay, you know,

827
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know one of the stories of the league,

828
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, just in terms of good stories of the league.

829
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent uh in his hometown. I think the

830
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: first undrafted free agent I might be bought butchering the

831
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: stat but to run for a thousand yards, I think

832
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: they said that on the broadcast on Sunday. He's just

833
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: a cool story. He runs that. He's just good. I mean,

834
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: it's just you watch him, You go, God, how did

835
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Speaker 1: this guy land as an undrafted free agent? He's got

836
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: fantastic feet. Uh, he's just an explosive runner, he's got

837
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: good vision, he's tough, he's just good. I mean, he's

838
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: just a good player. And it's just that's a great

839
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: part about the NFL, Like you can come from nowhere

840
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like guys an undrafted

841
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: free agent, he's playing in the Uh, he's a starter

842
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: mail bag John. Why in the world with less Miles

843
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: go to a laughing stock program to coach? I don't

844
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: know a lot about NFL coaching contracts, but what prevents

845
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Jerry from going and hiring Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan or

846
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: Matt n Maggie well Les Miles. I really don't know.

847
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: It's just it baffled my mind that he took that job.

848
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: The Kansas job's awful. I think it's one of probably

849
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Speaker 1: a top five bad, you know, top lowest. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know. I can't even summarize this. Of all the

851
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Speaker 1: power five conferences. It's got to be a bottom five

852
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Speaker 1: job of all the Power five conferences. It's that, and

853
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Speaker 1: it's it's terrible. I mean it's god awful. Now my

854
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Speaker 1: response probably money, Uh that is he got paid, but

855
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Speaker 1: maybe he likes a challenge. I don't know. I think

856
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Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. And the thing about it, if those

857
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Speaker 1: guys are under contract, so they're just competition laws. You

858
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Speaker 1: just can't steal a guy. Now, you can work out something,

859
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: but that team has the right to that individual. It's

860
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Speaker 1: no different than a company. Like if I have you

861
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Speaker 1: under contract, I have the rights to you. Now if

862
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Speaker 1: I want to let you go, I can, you know,

863
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Speaker 1: figure out compensation with another with another company via like

864
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Speaker 1: if Jerry wanted John McVeigh and the Rams were open

865
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Speaker 1: letting them go even though they never would be, you

866
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Speaker 1: could figure something out. But yeah, it's just that's why

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Speaker 1: I remember when Belichick quit on the Jets, he couldn't

868
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: just go to the to the Patriots. They had to

869
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Speaker 1: ultimately trade him. Uh, just just like any job. Uh. John,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and Nick Saban comparisons are dead, agreed. I

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Speaker 1: think Harbaugh Charlie Strong is a more appropriate comparison that

872
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: that seems harsh. Highest level of success came with a

873
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Speaker 1: future Pro Bowl quarterback on the roster, and both have

874
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: failed occasion on premier jobs. Who is the most appropriate

875
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Speaker 1: coach in comparison to Harbaugh. I'd have to think about

876
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: that one. Listen. I think Jim Harbaugh was pretty good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He wanted Stanford. He had two winning seasons there, one

878
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Speaker 1: eight and three and the other, uh eleven and one,

879
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: and went to a BCS game. He won for three

880
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: straight years with the San Fransco forty. Now, before he

881
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: got there at the Stanfordsco forty, Niners were consistently terrible

882
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: and since John Jim Harbaugh has left, they've been consistently terrible.

883
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Speaker 1: In Michigan, let's not forget like they had. That loss

884
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: was devastating. I I can't sugarcoat that. But they didn't

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Speaker 1: go Tenant too. You know, they got to figure out

886
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Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. Say Patterson looked like should have been

887
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: at cal Pauly not Michigan in that game, but I

888
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Speaker 1: I was. They still had a you know, a good year,

889
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Speaker 1: a great year. No, you can't give up ninety five

890
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Speaker 1: points to to Ohio State. But his fair comparison, Uh,

891
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: let me think of an NFL guy that's a tough one.

892
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: He's kind of old school, you know. I mean, he's

893
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Speaker 1: just he's much more you know, he's like the Bosh

894
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: n Blacker. He's just a tough because he's not a

895
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Speaker 1: scheme guy. He's more of a culture guy. But he's

896
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: never won a championship. But but again, he resurrected an

897
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: academic only school that never won in football, and Stanford

898
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Speaker 1: people like, well, they've produced NFL guy. People do realize,

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Speaker 1: Like John Elway senior year, they went like five and six,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Stanford never won until he showed

901
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: up consistently one and they haven't stopped winning since he

902
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: set the tone. And Michigan was in shambles when he

903
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: showed up. And now they are. I wouldn't say an

904
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Speaker 1: elite program. They're not Alabama, l s U Oklahoma, but

905
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Speaker 1: they're a power program. Again, they're the second best program

906
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Speaker 1: in what the second most important conference in the country.

907
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: That's still a pretty big deal. Now, the gap between

908
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: him and the first best team in his conference is

909
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: as big as the Grand Canyon, which is a problem.

910
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Speaker 1: But I I Jim Harbaugh is a good coach, but

911
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Speaker 1: He's got to find a way to get a better

912
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Speaker 1: quarterback because the only way we're gonna beat Ohio State

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Speaker 1: is with a dynamic quarterback and shape. Patterson can beat

914
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Speaker 1: Penn State, he can beat Wisconsin. You know, he can

915
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Speaker 1: beat Rutgers. But he ain't. He ain't Dwayne Haskins. You

916
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Speaker 1: know he ain't winning that game. He just like, are

917
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Speaker 1: you gonna roll that back next year? Because if you

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Speaker 1: roll out Jay Patterson again against Ohio State, Uh, the

919
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Speaker 1: same thing is gonna happen. Let's get one more John.

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Speaker 1: Is there a scenario in which the Rams and the

921
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Speaker 1: Saints do not play each other in the NFC Championship?

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Speaker 1: This is a good This is pretty relevant question as

923
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Speaker 1: the game we saw tonight, which team teams is most

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Speaker 1: likely to stand in the way of the matchup. So

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Speaker 1: let's just go over the seating right now. Let's just

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Speaker 1: assume the Rams get the number one overall seat. Let's

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Speaker 1: get the Saints the benefited out as the number two

928
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Speaker 1: overall seat, will go Bears three, Cowboys four. Let's go

929
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Speaker 1: Seahawks and Panthers. So in the first round you'd get Bears, Panthers,

930
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Speaker 1: Dallas Seattle. Let's give both home teams the benefit of

931
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Speaker 1: the doubt. Dallas handles business, Chicago's handle's business. Well, if

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Speaker 1: Dallas is the four, they would play the one the Rams,

933
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Speaker 1: and the Bears would play the Saints. I would say

934
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Speaker 1: that the Bears would be very difficult for Mitch Robinsky

935
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Speaker 1: to go on the road and beat New Orleans. So

936
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Speaker 1: I would say New Orleans would have a much better

937
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Speaker 1: case or chance to be in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: To me, the Rams are beatable. Like I, I I just

939
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Speaker 1: can't chuck up Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff as a

940
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Speaker 1: lock win you know, in a big time playoff game.

941
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Speaker 1: Now that that place will be rocking. They'll be coming

942
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Speaker 1: off of bye if somehow they have the number one

943
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Speaker 1: seed wrapped up. Last year, he didn't have anything to

944
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Speaker 1: play for and he rested everyone. Sean McVeigh rested everyone

945
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Speaker 1: in the preseason and it clearly hasn't mattered. But that's

946
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Speaker 1: a long time to take off. If they take off

947
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Speaker 1: Week seventeen, then they take off the bye week, and

948
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Speaker 1: then you come back, let's say, you know week or

949
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Speaker 1: that second the second playoff round, which is his first

950
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Speaker 1: playoff round, and Dallas has won eight of nine and

951
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: they're the hottest team in football. They could easily go

952
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Speaker 1: in there and beat him. Like, look at Dallas. To me,

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Speaker 1: Dallas or Chicago. If either one of those teams goes

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Speaker 1: into l A, like, I think it's gonna be really

955
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Speaker 1: hard to go to. No one's beating New Orleans at

956
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Speaker 1: New Orleans, Like, I just don't think that's happening. That's

957
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Speaker 1: just it's a different animal there. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that Dallas or Chicago, Mitch would have to be healthy

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Speaker 1: and just that version of Dallas could go on the

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Speaker 1: road to l A. Which I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people there because it's the Coliseum and is big,

962
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Speaker 1: but that it ain't exactly Uh, you know, Death Valley

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Speaker 1: and Baton Rouge at night. So let's the Monday night

964
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Speaker 1: game was cool, but let's let's pump the brakes a

965
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Speaker 1: little bit. There's some crazy home field advantage that I

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Speaker 1: do think either one of those teams would have more

967
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Speaker 1: than a puncher's chance to go on the because they

968
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Speaker 1: both played defense. They both can rush the pastor. Chicago

969
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: and uh in Dallas have elite front sevens for the

970
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Speaker 1: modern day game. They can rush the pastor. They have

971
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Speaker 1: big time speedup linebacker. Their play speed is excellent. They

972
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Speaker 1: can stop the run, but they're playing teams don't run

973
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Speaker 1: the ball that much anyway. Ro Kwan Smiths and the

974
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Speaker 1: Vanderess and the Jalens are is equipped as anyone to

975
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Speaker 1: just semi shadow Todd Gurley. So I I think if

976
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Speaker 1: it was, if we don't see those two matched up,

977
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Speaker 1: I think the likelihood is that the Rams get bounced.

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Speaker 1: Then if the Saints, because think of how crazy it

979
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Speaker 1: would be if the Saints went thirteen and three and

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Speaker 1: they had the two seed and they lost a game. Uh,

981
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Speaker 1: you know in New Orleans. I have a really really

982
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: hard time seeing that. I mean that place, it's just

983
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: too special. You know that that'd be like Seattle in

984
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Speaker 1: their prime losing the home playoff game. It's just it's

985
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Speaker 1: just hard to see. It doesn't mean you can't have

986
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Speaker 1: a tight game. Remember, you know hardball forty Niners gave

987
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Speaker 1: Seattle all they could handle, but they won for a reason.

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Speaker 1: You just you just not win in there. Appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the games much better college weekend than it is

990
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Speaker 1: a pro weekend. But guy, that that Dallas game, that

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Speaker 1: that was fun. It's been a it's been a fun night,

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00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: fun podcast, been a fun week of podcast. See you

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Speaker 1: next week Monday Night after Eagles, Redskins. Enjoy the weekend,

994
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Speaker 1: Stay safe, happy holidays,