1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: There's some similarities to him coming out of school to 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, the unorthodox release package, the explosive footwork to 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: generate separation, the body control, the ability to win at 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: all three levels and make a play for your quarterback. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Jets have made several acquisitions since the beginning of the 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: league year. How will that impact the team's draft strategy. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: We'll get Connor Rodgers' latest two round Jets mock draft 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: and also break down which receivers are the best fits 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: for the Green and White. Plus, we're gonna build a 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: perfect safety prospect now. Morning starts in three two one. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk some draft with Connor Rogers, who works over 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: at NBC Sports sn Y bad Lands the NFL Stock Exchange. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: You wear so many different hats. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: It has been a busy week for the New York 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Jets since the beginning of the league year. How might 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: some of their additions now impact their draft strategy? 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you love the flex ability it gives you. 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Everybody is chasing the dream of the draft to go 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: best player available, but you know it's easier said than done. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you have massive, massive 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: roster holes across the league, and I think the Jets 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: strategy to kind of attack the middle of free agency 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: fill as many holes, raise the floor, notably of their defense, 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: although they did make sure to do that too by 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: not having a giant splot a giant slot at left 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: guard open on offense as well. You know, we know 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: this is a team that's going to look to bolster 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: their wide receiver room. They'd probably love to find a 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: star on defense that they can move around and attack downhill. 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: And either there's you know, a couple of key guys 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: at number two as well that have been talked about 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: before free agency. But I think the biggest thing for 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the Jets was one, don't become too predictable going into 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: the draft, and we know that happens the teams and 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: it can lead to the worst case scenario if somebody 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: jumps you for the player you want, or the other 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: part is that you might take a guy but you 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: liked someone else a little bit better. So I think 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: they did a good and on They didn't tie a 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: lot of financial capital beyond this year, where they can 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: remain flexible and kind of tailor their roster to how 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: they see fit for years to come. They've done that 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: with the draft capital they've accumulated, and they've been able 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: to do that a little bit with their salary cap 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: space going forward as well. 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: What are some of these moves on the defensive side 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: of the ball telling you about the philosophy here? We 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: know Aaron Glenn's gonna be calling plays, he's a new 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, and Brian Duke or you bring in guys 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: like to Mario Davis, Mika Fitzpatrick, established veterans, guys who 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: are consummate pros. You also bring in a big guy 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: space eater in the middle via trade to and Andre Sweat. 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: What are you seeing in terms of now matching the 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: personnel with philosophy. 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Well, you've heard Aaron Glenn over the last year bring 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: up Detroit for various reasons, and I think that you're 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: starting to see some of Detroit's philosophy of being bigger 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and physical on paper start to. 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: Come to fruition. 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: And that's a really, really hard thing to do for 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: any regime when they arrive at a place in you know, 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: you get the job and then you're run into the 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: combine and you're trying to figure out a free agency 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: plan with whatever flexibility you have, and then whatever draft 65 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: picks you have. 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: Year two is where you actually start. 67 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: And you know, credit to Darren Mougiy and Aaron Glenn 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: for some of the trades they've orchestrated that have been 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: able to expedite that process a little bit. 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: You got to see some of that last year. 71 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: They needed a bigger space eater in Harrison Phillips that 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: brought veteran leadership as well. They took a flyer on 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Jawan Briggs that was an ascending player 74 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: in Brown's camp. The Browns just didn't have room for him, 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: and you saw how that turned out. I think a 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of people like the energy went healthy that Jarvis 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Browne plays for in terms of being able to play 78 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the nickel. Now you're getting to see them have a 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: little bit more room to work with with a full 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: off season, where okay, the defensive tackle room, we need 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: to be big, we need to be physical. Let's go 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: get a young guy into and Andre Sweat that has 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: a ton of upside, and let's go get a guy 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn knows and Davidda that can be really, 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: really nasty and tough at the point of attack against 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: double teams in the run game. You also have to 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: like the construction of that room. Harrison phillips On Yamada, 88 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: they've seen a lot in this league. Toventre Sweat, We 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: know how talented he is, but he hasn't seen a lot. 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: He needs guys like that around him to bring out 91 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: the best in him as well. And then Briggs once 92 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: again an as sending players so they want to be bigger. 93 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to watch what fronts they play this year 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: because you bring back Carl Dunbar to this organization who 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: has an incredibly accomplished resume coaching the defensive line. 96 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: And while a lot of defenses live. 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: In nickel, in this era of football, you're going to 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: be playing bass, you know, especially on those early rundowns, 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: you're going to have to give a base. Look, do 100 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: we see more three to four out of this team 101 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: where they want three big defensive linemen with their hand 102 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 1: in the dirt. They want to be athletic and tough 103 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: on the edges, and that's where Kings, Leanne Barre and 104 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: Joseph Asai come into play. 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: High effort kind of guys that. 106 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Could set the edge against the run and to Mario 107 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Davis behind them that can attack the run. He's still 108 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: got a great first step at age thirty seven, and 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: it's mind blowing to watch the tape of him last 110 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: year and can help the guys around him once again 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: as a leader, and Sam could be said with Minka 112 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: on the back end. So just a better tackling team, 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a tougher team at the point of attack, stop the run. 114 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: So you can get team. 115 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: Everybody talks about the note interceptions for the Jets last year. 116 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: The tough part is to get interceptions. You need to 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: put the opposition in third lungs that makes the quarterback 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: make bad decisions to lead to those interceptions. They've done 119 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: a good job the Jets improving on first and second 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: down to hopefully open up more opportunities on those third 121 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: and lungs. 122 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get to your two round mock draft, 123 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: your latest one, but first let's talk about Geno Smith 124 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: thirty five years old, low risk, and I also think 125 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: it's a high floor. Now, I don't want you to 126 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: give us your analysis so much as what is Ginal 127 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: going to do next year? As opposed to, Hey, how 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: does this impact Mouji's strategy at the position? 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: Overall? 130 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Heading into this draft, with the prospects that you see 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: out there. 132 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: It goes back to how we open this conversation that 133 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: you could be flexible. The Jets do not need to 134 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: leave the first two days of the draft with a 135 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback. 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: Now you look at. 137 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, who by consensus is the number two overall 138 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft. He's my number two overall quarterback. 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: We know Fernanda Mendoz is going to go number one, 140 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: or we feel good about that. Maybe we like Ty 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Simpson and we'll take him at thirty three, but we 142 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: need to impact players around the quarterback position at two 143 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: and sixteen or whoever we want to move up and. 144 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: Down the board. 145 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: So Genos that he could start the entire year, do 146 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: you know could attack at all three levels. 147 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: We know what he can do. He's seen everything in 148 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: this league. He'll be able to get the. 149 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: Ball to their pass catchers, especially with good pass protection. 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: It's jarring Geno's numbers over the last three years when 151 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: protected verse one under pressure. So I think it goes 152 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: back to the draft flexibility that I'm sure they're going 153 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: to add a young guy to this room, but do 154 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: they have to kind of take a stand picks. You 155 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: cannot manufacture a quarterback class. One class might have six starters, 156 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: one class might have one. If that you're dealing with 157 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the class that has one or maybe two, you can't 158 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: just imagine, ear you know, use your creativity and say 159 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I think the third or fourth guy could be this, 160 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: when reality is that's an uphill climb. 161 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: So I think getting a guy like. 162 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Geno that can play the entire year signals that the 163 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Jets don't want to be desperate in this year's group. 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Connor, we have you on the clock right now. 165 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: We've road the free agency waves. The Jets have totally 166 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: transformed their rosters, so you know what they're looking at 167 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: now at number two overall, where are you going? 168 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I think it's Rvel rees I think you look at 169 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: the floor and the upside. Everybody has this weird narrative 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: around Rvel Reese that he's all projection. He was phenomenal 171 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: playing off the ball this year. The speed, the physicality, 172 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the hand usage. He's twenty years old and he's over 173 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pounds. When this guy, it's hard 174 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: to believe even saying this grows into his you know, 175 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: full body an NFL body. He could be a two 176 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pound edge rusher as well. And 177 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: you look at how the Jets have constructed this roster. 178 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: They can move him around as a rookie down by 179 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: down and utilize his speed, his physical nature, his ability 180 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: to set the edge against the run or play in space, 181 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: and obviously what he could do is a pass rusher 182 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: slash blitzer, which is a little bit of a projection, 183 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: but there's glimpses on there that are for real. 184 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: So I think for the Jets, I said they need 185 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: a star on defense. 186 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: When you're looking at rbel Reese's ceiling, it's screams star 187 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: in the front seven. 188 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: That sounds good. So let's go to the middle of 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: the first round. Who do you think is going to 190 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: be in that range? And who do you like for 191 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: the Green and White. 192 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: So this is a little hopeful. 193 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: But Jordan Tyson, the receiver out of Arizona State, I 194 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: think he's the best receiver in the draft. You will 195 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: see him float around mock drafts anywhere. 196 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: From pick thirteen into the early. 197 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Twenties because he's been banged up at Arizona State and 198 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: he didn't get to work out at the combine because 199 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: of a lingering hamstring issue. I get it, medical concerns. 200 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: That's on the team doctors and on teams to figure out. 201 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: And I understand there's massive risk with any player regarding those, 202 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: but I think Tyson's the best player in the draft. 203 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: There's some similarities to him coming out of school to 204 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, the unorthodox or released package, the explosive footwork 205 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: to generate separation the body control, the ability to win 206 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: at all three levels and make a play for your quarterback. 207 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: I would call it about. 208 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty, maybe even sixty forty that Tyson makes 209 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: it to this pick. I can't see a scenario unless 210 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: they're really uncomfortable with the medical information. And I've heard 211 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: more promising things behind the scenes that the Jets can 212 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: pass on talent like Jordan Tyson to add as their 213 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: number two wide receiver. 214 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Those if the Jets keep those two picks early in 215 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: the second round, how about thirty three overall? 216 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Everybody loves that spot. 217 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: We know that, we talk about it every year because 218 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: you have so much time between that of the first 219 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: round and the start of the second round. 220 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: And how about forty four overall? 221 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty three is the dream you could trade it scenario. 222 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Everybody gets real hungry when they go to bed after 223 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: round one and they go, God, I can't believe that 224 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: guy's there at thirty three. What is it going to 225 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: cost to go into the Jets pick? And the Jets 226 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: don't have a third rounder? So do you move out 227 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: of thirty three and get more capital? That's on the 228 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: top of my mind. Who falls from this corner class 229 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Colton Hood from Tennessee. If he makes it there, the 230 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: amount of man coverage that he played at a high 231 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: level for Tennessee, his preparation and speed is off the charts. 232 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: I would like him in that slot. You're really looking like, Okay, 233 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: who is going to fall in this scenario? And we 234 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: can capitalize on that situation. If not a trade and 235 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson falls into that bucket, I know everybody's assuming 236 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: he goes in the first round. It's not easy to 237 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: find a spot for him unless you create a trade 238 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: at the back end of round one. 239 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: So people talk about the Steelers and the Rams. I'm 240 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: not all the way there yet, So. 241 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: If time makes it to thirty three, you have to 242 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: have an interesting, interesting conversation there. But who falls from 243 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: the corner class would be top of mine. If they 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: take a different player at sixteen, say like a guard 245 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: like Venga Yoanna. You look at the wide receiver group, 246 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Omar Cooper, Jeremy Bernard, does Denzel Boston one of the 247 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: guys that falls there, and then you go to forty four. 248 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: This is kind of that no brainer slot to me. 249 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: Remember last year everyone was thinking tight end for them 250 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: in that slot. It happened a couple of years ago. 251 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: People were looking at the center class. They took Joe Tipman. 252 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: Joe Tipman looks like a really really good ascending player 253 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: right now. 254 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 4: This year's version of that, to. 255 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: Me is the safety class. Aj Halsey from LSU. His 256 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: nickname is mister gimme that. Ea, the Jets would like 257 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of that on the back end. Give 258 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: me that football in the air, creates turnovers, hits downhill smart, 259 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds. 260 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: This is a big guy at safety that can move. 261 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: You put him next to Minka Fitzpatrick and that group 262 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: looks significantly improved. 263 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: So you like Halsey at forty four if he's there. 264 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like one of those ones where I'm just 265 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: gonna keep hammering it and hopefully it happens. We'll see 266 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: I might be higher on him than some people. I 267 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: think this guy is going to be a real big 268 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: time turnover creator on the back end. 269 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: All right, perfect transition, because you know this class as 270 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: well as anybody out there, and you were just talking 271 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: about safety. So let's build the perfect safety prospect from 272 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: this class using the following five traits range, fall skills, physicality, instinct, 273 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: slash IQ, and versatility. Starting with range, who's got the 274 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: best range out of this group? 275 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: I would say Dylan Theeneman from Oregon. 276 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: I mean he's the four to three wheels say it 277 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: all at the combine, but you see it on tape. 278 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: He can go sideline to sideline, he can fly around. 279 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: He did that Purdue and Oregon. When you do it 280 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: two programs, that's big time. So Dylan Theneman would be 281 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the guy if you're looking for that two shell or 282 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: single high player to take away the ball and make 283 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: plays on the back end. Yeah, Theneman absolutely takes the 284 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: range award. 285 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: How about ball skills? 286 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: This is this goes to Halsey for me. Halsey, he 287 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: finished his place. He absolutely him And you know Emmanuel 288 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: McNeil Warren from Toledo might be the runner up, but 289 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I'll take Halsey on this. He could play that robber 290 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: roll coming downhill. He's just got that sixth sense to 291 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: take away the football. 292 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Halsey's got the ball skills in this group. 293 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: How about the physicality that you need to play that 294 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: spot man. 295 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: I think this has to go to Emmanuel McNeil Warren. 296 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: He's massive. He's almost built like a Cam Chancellor. You 297 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: see him come up to the line of scrimmage and 298 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: just decleat people without any kind of fear. He's got 299 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: forget NFL size. This guy has linebacker kind of build. 300 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: He can run long arms. He doesn't care that he's 301 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: coming from Toledo. We've seen good dbs make it in 302 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: the NFL from Toledo. McNeil Warren takes that one. 303 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious if you're going to go to a buck 304 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: guy here when we're talking about instincts football, IQ. 305 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean Caleb Downs all the way you nailed it, 306 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: and this is a the Caleb Downs is in, you know, 307 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: five tiers above everyone else. In this one, you watch 308 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: a team try to throw screens against him. He runs 309 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: through the blocker and then runs through the ball carrier. 310 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that you know, he had 311 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: to play against Minnesota where they tried to run a 312 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: little leak play to the tight end, and that's a 313 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: play that fools NFL defenders on a regular basis. He 314 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: sniffed it out all the way, ran all the way 315 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: down the field with the tight end, and played the 316 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: ball better than the tight end could play. And I'm 317 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: looking at him like, this guy knows the offensive playbook 318 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: better than the opposition skill players. 319 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: How about versatility, a guy who can play with the range, 320 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: go sideline the sideline, take away the ball, but come 321 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: down in the box, maybe play some big nickel as well. 322 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. 323 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: I think this would probably be once again back to 324 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: McNeil Warren because he's done. 325 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: It all at Toledo. 326 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: He's got the size once again to kind of, you know, 327 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: play in the box as well as a run defender. 328 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: But we've seen him range over. 329 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: But I'll give you a different name here to kind 330 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: of keep the trend going of adding guys to this pie. 331 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: How about Keyante Scott from Miami. He's somebody that was 332 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: a late breakout one of the best run defenders in 333 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: the country. As a defensive back, he takes on lead 334 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: blockers like a linebacker. He played the nickel, had some 335 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: interceptions as well. Could probably match up with move tight 336 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: ends at the next level. So Keante Scott, he'll probably 337 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: listed at as a corner in this class. I think 338 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: he's kind of that big nickel defender and kind of 339 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: slot coverage safety. 340 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: All right, you put it all together, you have a 341 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: phenomenal all pro safety. Let's transition to something we'd like 342 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: to call prospect pandulum. I'm gonna throw a number of 343 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: different receivers at you. You pick for me, who's a 344 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: better fit for the Green and White. So let's start 345 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: with McKay Lemon or Carnel Tait. 346 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: I would go Carnel Tait. 347 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: I think because of the size, playing him on the perimeter, 348 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: and the Jets are fortunate enough where their guys are versatile, 349 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: they can keep the slot open for kayle Lemon, which 350 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: is where I think he needs to play at the 351 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: next level. But having that X receiver, Carnel Tait's got 352 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: good footwork, he's got great tracking. He could win in 353 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: the red zone. You'd love to see a little bit 354 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: more of a red zone presence in this Jets passing attack. 355 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I think Carnel Tait is probably the guy out of 356 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: all the receivers I feel is the safest lock to 357 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: go in the top ten picks of this draft. 358 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: We already know the answer to this one, Denzel Boston 359 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: or Jordan Tyson. 360 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: Is it close at all? 361 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Or Tyson is a far and away separate separated himself 362 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: from a guy like Boston. 363 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I think Tyson he's the best receiver in the draft, 364 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: but this is a good opportunity to remind people that 365 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: Boston is better than people realize. I actually will have 366 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a new big board for NBC where I think he's 367 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: more in the group with Makai Lemon based on talent 368 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: than other people do. I would have it as Tyson 369 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: and then Tate kind of in this tier, Lemon and 370 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Boston in this tier. Boston gets labeled as this big 371 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: bodied receiver and he is, but Washington's offense under coach Fish, 372 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: they moved him around everywhere, all the way to the 373 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: backfield to hide him. So he's got some really good versatility. 374 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: You love the big guys that could block on the outside. 375 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: So it's closer than people realize. 376 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: How about Omar Cooper Junior or case concepcion. 377 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I'll go with Omar Cooper Junior. Here the release packages 378 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: out of this world. I was talking to his teammate, 379 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: D'Angelo Ponds of the Combine, and Ponds is an exceptional cornerback, 380 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, break down all your receivers because 381 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: we know two of them in Sarrat and Cooper are 382 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: going to be in the NFL. Becker will be a 383 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: big time prospect next year. His eyes lit up when 384 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: talking about Omar Cooper Junior. The first name out of 385 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: his mouth was because of the release packages, was Devonte Adams. 386 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: He's like, this guy is so unpredictable, so hard to 387 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: guard those first couple steps. He's really good with the 388 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and as we saw in the 389 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Penn State game, the body control is out of this world. 390 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: Any chance that he's there at thirty three. 391 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: It's starting to trend that he's not. That's a newer 392 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: thing over the last three two to three weeks where 393 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: he can go as early as nineteen to Carolina. But 394 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: I've done this long enough now ea, where I don't 395 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: play the no chance game. 396 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: I have seen way too much in this draft world. 397 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: All right, let's end here Melkye Fields or Chris brazl. 398 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: Oh, Wow, this is an interesting one. 399 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I think I think I would go with Brazzle because 400 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: he's so explosive and so dangerous clearing out over the top, 401 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: where if you're looking for that Brian Thomas junior kind 402 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: of player to once again take off the top of 403 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: the defense, threaten the safety, where Fields is going to 404 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: give you a different kind of player. He's going to 405 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: block down hill, he can c I'm the latter, and 406 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: make plays in a phone booth over the coverage. He's 407 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: not going to run away from the coverage. So for 408 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: the Jets specifically, you'd probably want a guy that can 409 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: open up some space. 410 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: This is something that we like to call gate change 411 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: talking about some trade up trade down scenarios. 412 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: Is time is progressed. 413 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: I have become more inclined to think, hey, maybe the 414 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Jets should move up from sixteen. 415 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: Do you think that way as well? 416 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: And is there like a magic spot up there in 417 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: the first round or player or group of players where 418 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I only have this amount of first 419 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: round grades. I definitely gotta consider it. Considering all the 420 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: draft capital I do have. 421 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: This would be fascinating because for me, the scenario and 422 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: say they go with one of the front seven guys 423 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: at two, You look at it and you go, Okay, 424 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: we didn't think that Caleb Downs would make it to 425 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: eight or nine and the Bengals should be a team 426 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: of ten. That's like, if Downs makes it down the board, 427 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't see how he doesn't go in the top 428 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: ten because the Bengals at ten. You look at that 429 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: scenario and you go, okay, what's the cost? Is the 430 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: cost a little different because teams are so desperate to 431 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: get out in this draft where say we took Garvell 432 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Rees at two, we moved up from sixteen, and we 433 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: got Caleb Downs at eight or nine. 434 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: That's pretty special stuff. 435 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: EA. 436 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: So that would be the exception for that one. And 437 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: then if you're worried about the capitol it costs to 438 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: go up and do that, go back to what I 439 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: said and trade out of thirty three and you'll recuperate 440 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: that capital anyway and you walk out with great players. 441 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's one where like that's big time. 442 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: Man, you're in my mind right here. So thirty three 443 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: we know how valuable it is. 444 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: But We've seen it over the years where teams will say, 445 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: I will give you a first round pick, yeah, in 446 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Now the Jets already have three first 447 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: round picks in twenty twenty seven. You know the draft 448 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: so well, and you're already looking ahead while studying each 449 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: day about twenty two twenty six in the movement here. 450 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think about the scenario there? 451 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: Because you got to balance. You need impact players right now. 452 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: But at the same time, if somebody's floating at twenty 453 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: twenty seven first round pick at you. 454 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: Right, it's it's tough to say no. Now, this is 455 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: where collaboration is so important. Where you know ag will 456 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: have a feel for the roster and where they're you 457 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: know where they. 458 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: Need to add. 459 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Do they come out of day say they did what 460 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: we just said right, They were aggressive, They took a 461 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: front seven player at two that they think is a star. 462 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: They made a move that nobody saw coming with Caleb Downs. 463 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Now you're looking at go, we got two difference makers 464 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: on defense. Now you'd still need another receiver, so you'd 465 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: have to see how you feel about that. But if 466 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: they felt like the roster was in a place that 467 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: it was competitive enough going forward that they can wait. 468 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: It's tough to say no to that scenario. 469 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Think about how the Rams are feeling right now after 470 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: acquiring Atlanta's first round pick last year. Now they have 471 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: the thirteenth pick in theft and the Rams were a 472 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl caliber team last year. So big picture, that 473 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: would be fascinating to me. The other scenario you can 474 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: look at it is is go, we're gonna go out 475 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: of thirty three. Say a team wanted to come up 476 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: only a couple of spots, so we still probably get 477 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: the player we want, but they gave us that third 478 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: rounder that we're missing. 479 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: Now we're picking late. 480 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Thirties forty four and we're picking in the third round 481 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: and we got two fours as well, so it's gonna 482 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: be interesting to see kind of how to balance that. 483 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: But accumulating draft capital for twenty twenty seven, I tip 484 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: my cap to any team, and the Jets are one 485 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: of them already that's doing that because that group looks 486 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: for real. 487 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: Connor, let's get into some day three diamonds. 488 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: Saturday is where you can make your draft, and where 489 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: will the Jets find their most value? 490 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 491 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: These are always fun, right. 492 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: You can look at say they decide in the first 493 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: four picks, Hey, we don't want to take a safety here. 494 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: We'd rather kind of look at that in the fourth 495 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: round or the fifth round scenario. Do you look at 496 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: a Bud Clark from TCU that could do a little 497 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: bit of everything and make plays on the football as well. 498 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Because the Jets go in and they go we like Minco, 499 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: we know what he can bring. We think Cisco is 500 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: going to come back healthy. We brought in Dane Belton 501 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: as depth. You know, we have Malachi from last year 502 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: as well. We don't need to take one early because 503 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: we think somebody's going to kind of stand out from 504 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: the pack in that group. You look at an athlete 505 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: at the safety position like VJ. Pain from Kansas State, 506 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: another guy that's done a lot of different things. He's big, 507 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: he could be physical, he can run like crazy as well. 508 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: And then you get to the offensive side of the ball, 509 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: and we you know, this is one where. 510 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 4: The Jets backfield is really interesting. 511 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: Right. We know what Breise Hall can do and Isaiah 512 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: Davis has carved out a nice career for himself, and 513 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: we hope Braylan Allen is healthy. But if you're looking 514 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: for change of pace is always the common saying a 515 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: different gear kind of give the defense a different look. 516 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: Deman Claiborne from Wake. 517 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Forest just has this juice to him where you get him, 518 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: you get him at the second level and you make 519 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: a mistake as a linebacker safety you blink, he's gone. 520 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: He's got those four to three wheels, he's only one 521 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight pounds. You're not giving him the 522 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: ball twenty times a game. But the Jets don't have 523 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: to do that. The Jets have their workhorse and they 524 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: have a reliable number two running back as well. 525 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: But if you're looking to add. 526 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: A different speed dimension, that would really really be something 527 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: that they should look at. And then the last one, 528 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: I'd like the depth of this tight end class that 529 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about. Of course, Sadik and Stours because the 530 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: way they test that are going to go early. But 531 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: if one of Eli Raridan from Notre Dame or Sam 532 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: Rausch was sitting there in round four, the way they 533 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: can play on the line of scrimmage and block and 534 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: give you above the rim ability in the red area 535 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: where you go twelve personnel with Mason Taylor and one 536 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: of those two guys, That to me is something that 537 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: would really really help Frank Reich's offense from a protection standpoint, 538 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: a run game standpoint, have the ability to have two 539 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: or even three tight ends on the field. 540 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: Speaking of Reich, if the Jets sit tight at quarterback 541 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: on those first two days of the draft, which guys 542 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: do you like on day three that, hey, let's take 543 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: a flyer on. This guy's more of a project, but 544 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: let's get it, get him in our building to start 545 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: working with Reich and Bill Musgrave. 546 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think the higher floor one would be 547 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Carson Beck, who I think is probably in the fourth 548 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: round right now, and you never know how quarterbacks jump 549 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: up into Day two. But Beck's true pocket passer, effective 550 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: off of play action. Did a good job being a 551 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: point guard this year at Miami. I know everybody thinks 552 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: of how it ended in the National title game, but 553 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the full sample size, he was accurate, he was effective. 554 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: So Beck would be more of the floor. 555 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: The project guys are kind of interesting, right because you 556 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: look at Joey Aguilar from Tennessee. He's played a lot 557 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: of football, He's tough as hell, he stands tall in 558 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: the pocket, he loses his base a lot where that's 559 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: where the ball placement error it's correctable. Frank Reich is 560 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: a guy that I think can fix some of Joey 561 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 1: Aguilar's accuracy problems. He's got a good arm, he's two 562 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds. Once again, he plays very, very 563 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: tough in the pocket, true Day three guy, and he's 564 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: going to be twenty five during his rookie season. 565 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: But who cares. You're just looking for guys with tools. 566 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: So Beck would be the high floor. 567 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Aguilar to me is the more interesting dart throw, and 568 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: then you kind of get into the bucket of you know, 569 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Sawyer Robertson from Baylor, who's made some really impressive throws 570 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: throughout his college career. He's also a little turnover prone 571 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: where he's just not seeing the field well enough yet 572 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: to kind of capitalize that being an NFL starting caliber quarterback. 573 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: But with Reich, look for a big body, a big arm. 574 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't care about hanging back there and getting snot 575 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: knocked out of him to make the throw. I think 576 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: all three guys I said they do. 577 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: That really well. 578 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: That's fabulous analysis. 579 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to hand you our virtual whiteboard right now, 580 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: you've studied every prospect in this class, which player in 581 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six draft class is the most. 582 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: Perfect fit for the Jets? 583 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: And everybody's on the board, including the guy that most 584 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: people think is going number one overall. 585 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: Oh man, this is this is pretty fun. 586 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, Mendoza with Reich is no brainer level stuff. 587 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the way that he prepares is out of 588 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: this world. He's got the arm, talent to challenge outside 589 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: the numbers. You have a veteran here that can kind 590 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: of play in front of him if they need to 591 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: buy him time. 592 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: So Mendoza is absolutely the easy one. 593 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: I won't go there with that just because it's it's 594 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: too much of a layup. 595 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: Good. 596 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's have a little bit more fun. You 597 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: know what's a sneaky one that it's it's hard to like. 598 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: AG's is interesting to me because he was a small 599 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: corner with ball skills that played bigger than his size. 600 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: The Jets, for the most part, you look at them 601 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: taking Azaria Thomas last year, signing Brandon Stevens, it feels 602 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: like as a regime that all teams do they like 603 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: these bigger coins. Four that's a great call, right as 604 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: a monster an absolute monster at the position. Let's go 605 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: the complete other way because of personality and play style. 606 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: D'Angelo Pons from Indiana. 607 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: He's sub six feet tall and he plays on the outside. 608 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: He takes away the football. 609 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: He will absolutely knock you on your butt all that 610 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: doesn't care how big you are, how small he is. 611 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: He's so smart, so well prepared past the adversity test. 612 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: Transferred up from JMU. 613 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: Plays on an Indiana team where his coach, who people 614 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: respect for the right reasons, said he was the guy 615 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: on the team. Signetti thought D'Angelo Pons was the guy 616 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: on that Indiana team. Do you bump in and have 617 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: him play some nickel Do you think depending on the 618 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: matchups he could still play on the outside at the 619 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: next level, that fiery, intense personality. He's the guy in 620 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: this class that his play style resembles Aaron Glenn's the most. 621 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: I think Glenn would see that on tape. And he's 622 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: a guy I had at the combine that I really 623 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: really enjoyed talking to because of the mental warfare that 624 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: comes with playing corners. 625 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: So like when you look at. 626 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: His body type, it might not be typically where the 627 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: Jets go, but you we'll get the personality and the tape. 628 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: I would love to see that kind of fit in 629 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: green and white. 630 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: Uh, Connor Rogers. 631 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: Typically you're throwing high heat, but you have a number 632 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: of pitches in your bag, and you just threw a 633 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: curveball at you. 634 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: We liked it. Man, This was a lot of fun. 635 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: Enjoy the analysis as always, and we'll be catching you everywhere. 636 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 4: Thanks so much a great conversation. I appreciate you guys 637 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: having me