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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: this is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network. And

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Speaker 3: it's time here for the Fantasy football focus. And this

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Speaker 3: is an interesting week, met because Denver, Indianapolis, New England, Washington,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore and Houston all off off. Now, when that schedule

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Speaker 3: was announced, you looked at that and said, well it's Denver, Okay, yeah, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: all right, New England, Washington, Who cares? Baltimore and Houston

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Speaker 3: it's Washington. There's a lot of starters on those six

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Speaker 3: think we miscalculated.

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Speaker 1: I definitely did. I was thinking this was going to

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Speaker 1: correlate with fantasy playoffs, but in some places, some of

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Speaker 3: A fourteen team. Yeah, so bigger sixteen. You probably do

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Speaker 3: start your playoffs, yes, this week, But there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of big time guys off. But there's definitely a

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Speaker 3: I got Lamar and Andrews, and you know it's small.

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Speaker 1: But like in our league, I don't have a tight

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Speaker 3: The team I'm playing, and it's this was whatever what

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Speaker 3: How the schedule came out. So and he lost this week,

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Speaker 3: I won. But if he beats me this week, he

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Speaker 3: I finished second. I finished second, and I got to

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Speaker 1: So it's a little different matters, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got Lamar off this week, and he's got

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Speaker 1: I just Andrews was the only tight end on my roster,

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Speaker 1: And there's so many good fantasy sites out there, and

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Speaker 1: He's out there all everywhere every week, a third string

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Speaker 3: Sincere McCormick zero percent rostered, I don't know if he's.

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Speaker 1: they're in. Wide receiver Keyon Coleman still rostered in forty

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could do worse. He probably should be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Elijah Moore still rushed in just ten percentage.

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Speaker 3: It's empty, I mean it's coming off with concussion is

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Speaker 3: But even if he doesn't more still should be rushed

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Speaker 1: They live in eleven and they throw the ball, throw

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Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. Now. He's actually got quite a

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Speaker 1: few targets from Winston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually had more to Ugust and Judy last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had like seventeen. Yeah, joke, he's a dog.

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Speaker 1: He's an odd bird. More talent than from the next

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Speaker 1: I'm still not there. He catches two balls a game,

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Speaker 3: He had eight targets last week was eight, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean just his his touchdown conversion turned that into

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Speaker 3: And they're playing the Jaguars this week. I mean, with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and scoring touchdowns is not as fluky as people

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Speaker 3: He is a big downfield, speedy wide downfield wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks is only ten percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: That's bad either. Yeah, I mean everyone dropped him because

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Speaker 3: They need somebody other than the CD lamb to catch

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Ferguson's coming back or not this one.

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Speaker 1: that's a lingering one. Yeah. Uh. Tillman is forty three

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Speaker 1: were really high on him. He was the hot belaiver

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Speaker 1: Judy's passed him, but I don't know that he has

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Speaker 1: you know, veleven percent rostered. That doesn't really so many

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Speaker 3: Than Sudden Marquez Valdez Scantling thirty one percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm kind of a yes on him just because

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Speaker 1: there's nothing else and they go deep. They go deep

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like he might get four chances to you know,

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Speaker 3: to catch a deep one. He might only catch one

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Speaker 3: of the four, but it might be for seventy one yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean by default he gets targets. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs forty five percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess he's ahead of Wicks, behind Watson

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Speaker 1: how we thought. Yeah, nobody really emerged. If you drafted

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Speaker 3: Adam Thielen is thirty one percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I think Coker's coming back. They're very they're

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Speaker 1: different to both slots. Do they just want a youth

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Speaker 3: I think they're want to give him every chance to succeed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: probably does that exactly. And they know where the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: knows where he's going to be all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it will be Xavier l Get twenty seven percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: They're going to play him a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna play. Definitely play a lot at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson thirty five percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: He should be, although this time of year we talk

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Speaker 1: about a lot, like you don't need to keep three

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Speaker 3: But if your starter's on a bye yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: why not. I should definitely be, and.

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Speaker 1: We expect him weather this week. I know it's early

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Speaker 1: should definitely be. Oh yeah, he's probably already gone. Question.

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Speaker 3: Will Levis is twelve percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: Better for fantasy than the real world. He's aggressive, He's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of Jamis to him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be the new Jamis, speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: Jamis is fifteen percent rostered.

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Speaker 1: Better for fantasy than the real world if you're not

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Speaker 1: penalized for pick sixes, right, I mean, even if an

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Speaker 1: throws it all a ton. This is funny. Uh, Little

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Speaker 1: Winston might be a top twelve guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking here on Fantasy Pros and their description of

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Speaker 3: Winston is rostering Jamis Winston is like taking a blind

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Speaker 3: taste test. You might draw something delicious, as with the

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Speaker 3: three games where he surpassed twenty five fantasy points. Winston

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Speaker 3: might also give you a poisonous mushroom or an improperly

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Speaker 3: butchered puffer fish and can kill all your chances to

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Speaker 1: He's never gonna be tearle though. Yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 1: it's real thin. Grant Dallas Godter, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: going to play this week. I don't either. Grant calc

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Speaker 1: Terra again roll though. So like in my other league,

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Speaker 1: I was all proud of myself. I got her, came

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Speaker 1: back one week ago. I'm like, take some hillstill out there.

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Speaker 1: I grabbed them both. I'm set for the week they

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Speaker 1: both get hurt this week. Now I got nothing. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna pick up Calcitra though. I mean

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Speaker 1: when he's played, he produces. He had an eighty two

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Speaker 1: point five percent route share, fifteen point five percent target share,

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Speaker 1: one point eighty eight yards per pas pass route run. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's good. Immediately different tight end. Yeah, he's an athlete

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Speaker 1: to gets downfield and he's in a good offense.

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Speaker 3: It might be three catches, but it might be three

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Speaker 3: catches for forty yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if Dante Smith doesn't play. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 3: Dawson knocks eight percent ross.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't do much for me.

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Speaker 3: Looks like Dalton Kincaid could miss this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to get you through like my Andrews

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Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson three percent rostered. Taysom Hill was out. Taysom

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Speaker 3: Hill was a big part of their offense. Somebody has

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Speaker 3: a different way. Somebody has to catch the ball in

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Speaker 3: that offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's kind of the vowdest scanting conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad quarterback, you know.

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Speaker 3: Last week he finished with the team lead with an

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Speaker 3: eighteen point nine percent target share and was one yard

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Speaker 3: off the league the team lead with thirty six receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: I've always liked the player that he's always been a

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Speaker 1: little underrated and they always had other people to go to.

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Speaker 1: How about this one. I don't dislike that. Noah Gray. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of slow playing Kelsey a little bit and

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Speaker 1: they play a lot of twelve.

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Speaker 3: But he's got a fifty two point two percent route here.

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Speaker 1: He's a pretty good athlete.

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Speaker 3: Two point one o yards per route run, forty nine

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Speaker 3: receiving yards per game over the last month, and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's got touchdowns too. Yeah, Yeah, it's up bad. These

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Speaker 1: are all about the same. Yeah, And I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: this decision to pick one of these guys up, and

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Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna pick the right one. Cole Commett

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Speaker 1: these guys. We've been talking about the speculative injury type dudes.

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Speaker 3: He's got the forty receiving yards and two in the

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Speaker 3: last three games they played the forty nine ers, vikings

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Speaker 1: There are three good defenses at least man Niners aren't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what you're looking at here, looking at

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Speaker 3: the streaming defenses here real quick. Uh, you got Thursday

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Speaker 3: night game Green Bay at Detroit.

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Speaker 1: No, and no, I love it. I don't love it.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is at Tennessee, Fire up at Tennessee, far Potennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans defense at Rome go but last week but yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: New York Jets are at Miami.

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Speaker 3: No on Miami. Yes, I'd start Miami, would not be.

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Speaker 3: Atlanta is at Minnesota. Kirk Cousins revenge game.

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Speaker 1: He looks so bad. I don't think he I'm not

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Speaker 1: hesitating to start the bikes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he has revenge left in him.

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Speaker 1: At that point, and he throws a lot of bad picks.

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Speaker 1: No in the falcon, Yeah, they'll blitz him like crazy,

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Speaker 1: just get rid of a lot. New Orleans is at

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Speaker 1: the Giants both, yeah, either, I mean both. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: mean bad versus bad is not a bad start, and

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Speaker 1: the Giants can rush the passer? Did Lawrence go? And

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Speaker 1: I are yes? I think so? Yeah. I mean they're

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Speaker 3: Carolina is at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Phillies might be the best defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna start them every week, but you can't

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Speaker 3: start Carolina ever.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland at Pittsburgh. A line in that game, Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: Caroline's playing.

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Speaker 3: It's actually a Philadelphia minus twelve. Cleveland at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Steelers at home.

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Speaker 3: There's six and a half point favors this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Not thrilled with the Browns. I don't like.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to start the Browns this week coming

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Speaker 3: off a short week.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not like Thursday.

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Speaker 3: A lot of running up and down the field in

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Speaker 3: that game this week in the altitude injuries too, Yeah no, uh,

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas at Tampa Bay Tampa.

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Speaker 1: It's not great, but okay, I don't think the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you start the Raiders. Seattle's at Arizona.

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Speaker 3: We just saw this game a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: It was sixteen to six, which means this one's going

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Speaker 3: to be a shootout probably.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle's he's playing really really, you're playing well. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like Arizona's defense isn't awful because they scheme it up, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Buffalo is at the Rams, not the Rams.

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Speaker 1: If you have the Bills and there's nothing else to

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. That's the Chargers. I was the two symbols

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Speaker 1: look too much alike sometimes, and the color scheme is

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Speaker 1: exactly Yeah, come on, no one the Chargers. It's a

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Speaker 1: good defense. And if that's all you have, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to cut them. Yeah, I probably live with it

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Speaker 1: for a week. Yes, on the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Chicago's at San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I don't love either, but I don't hate either.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem starting either one of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco is a wounded animal. Part of that offense

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Speaker 1: So it is the defense. Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Bosa plays Warners got an ankle that he's

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Speaker 3: That was the Rams playing the Buffalo. No, it's the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers are at Kansas City. That's the night game

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Speaker 3: Someday night.

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Speaker 1: I played the Chiefs. I don't know problem playing the Chargers.

436
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Speaker 1: Chargers aren't that's not a stay away.

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Speaker 3: No, Mahome's been sacked five times in each of the

438
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Speaker 3: last two games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're playing Tony at left tackle. They

440
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Speaker 1: picked up Donovan Smith, you know.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're desperate. They're desperate for anything offensive tackle. And

442
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Speaker 3: then the Monday night matchup, Oh my god, Cincinnati at Dallas. Wow,

443
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Speaker 3: hasn't the world suffered enough?

444
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Speaker 1: They're kind of like carbon copies of it. Wow, you

445
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Speaker 1: can't play down. You can't play either one of those

446
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Speaker 1: defenses against anybody. No, I couldn't play since.

447
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Speaker 3: D Oh my god, how many points are gonna what's

448
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Speaker 3: the over under net game?

449
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Dallas will do what Pittsburgh did though.

450
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Speaker 1: It's a terrible defense, but it's still Cooper rush me.

451
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get into the thirties or

452
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Speaker 1: they won't get the forties. Yeah. I haven't started all

453
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Speaker 1: the other skill guys though. That's a fantasy bonanza. Maybe

454
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Speaker 1: not the defenses, I mean like Chase and Higgins and

455
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Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah yeah. The skill guy Micah Parsons though,

456
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Speaker 1: might Oh he'll do fine. Yeah, he'll get after Burrow. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: they'll get some sacks. I'm not sorry. Neither chance o chance?

458
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Speaker 1: What a matchup? Baby? To underachievement that looked really good's

459
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Speaker 1: the underachievable? Yeah. When the schedule came out, that was

460
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a great one. Oh, Cowboys Bengals. Two

461
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders, two teams watching from home. One of

462
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Speaker 1: them is gonna get a win this week. Cowboys are

463
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Speaker 1: red hot. They won too in a row. I bet

464
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Speaker 1: they're favored.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Cincinnati's favored by five. See there you go, right there.

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Speaker 1: People still think people the Bengals are good in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: In Dallas, I don't get that. I'm not even sure

468
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Speaker 1: who the better team is, but they're not five points

469
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Speaker 1: better on the road. I mean, Burrow is awesome.

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Speaker 3: He's playing it so bad, it's awful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's even Stephen. They give give

472
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Speaker 1: and take it away an equal amount.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there you go. That's the schedule for the week.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot there really no.

475
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Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of diamond and rough defenses.

476
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Speaker 3: But you get the six six teams off Denver, Indianapolis,

477
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 3: New England, Washington, Baltimore and Houston. So adjust your lineup accordingly.

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Speaker 1: A couple of decent defenses off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this is the last by week of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: After this it's everybody's playing the rest of the week.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely this week he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network,

485
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Speaker 3: Matt and now will be back with more right after this.

486
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Speaker 2: And at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

487
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

488
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Speaker 2: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt it is Power

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Speaker 3: Rankings time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who should be thirty two? The Jags have been

493
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Speaker 1: really bad for all year, but the last month or

494
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Speaker 1: so they've taken it the new levels. I think they

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Speaker 1: would be my choice.

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Speaker 3: And they are on Rick Atolmes rankings on NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are thirty two. Pretty miserable. I don't think

498
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Speaker 1: it'd be a terrible head coaching job, though, depending how

499
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Speaker 1: you get along with ownership and how much you want to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are losing organizations. They're a poster boy.

501
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Speaker 3: For Yeah, and you're gonna take two trips across the

502
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Speaker 3: pond every year and you have to spend you know, divisions.

503
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Speaker 1: Not terrible. Quarterback's not terrible, though. How about this, there's

504
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Speaker 1: a really good chance quarterback might be terrible. I'd love

505
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Speaker 1: to see him, like with Ballochick or some real coach,

506
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Speaker 1: all of them. There's a good chance though, three out

507
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Speaker 1: of five years they're gonna pick first overall. How terrible?

508
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Speaker 1: Hard to do? That's hard to do? Yeah? Right?

509
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Speaker 3: The Giants fall spot two numbers thirty one.

510
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Speaker 1: They would be nipping on the heels for thirty two,

511
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Speaker 1: especially the way they're currently constructed. No Lawrens, no Jones.

512
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's left at thirty up a spot survive?

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Speaker 1: I think so unless Belichick wants the job, he has

514
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Speaker 1: serious Giants divee he does. Yeah. The Raiders at two

515
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Speaker 1: and ten are number three. Yeah, they're up a spot. Yeah, yep, yeah,

516
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: there't no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: At twenty nine, holding steady the Patriots.

518
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Speaker 1: Okay.

519
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: At twenty eight, holding steady the Titans.

520
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Speaker 1: They had a rough one, but doesn't mean you have

521
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Speaker 1: to go down to thirty one or thirty two. They've

522
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Speaker 1: done some oth a things the last month or so.

523
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Speaker 3: At twenty seven, down a spot the other New York team,

524
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Speaker 3: the Jets. Remember when they were a top ten team?

525
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: Are they the most disappointing team without a doubt? That

526
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Speaker 3: says maybe, like the name Dinners favored in like eighty

527
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Speaker 3: games is year.

528
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Speaker 1: Having this public perception versus what they've done is really bad.

529
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Speaker 1: And at least the Niners can point to like a

530
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: million injuries and you.

531
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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, this was a bad build from the beginning.

532
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have most of their pieces still.

533
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Speaker 3: At twenty six, up a spot Carolina.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the offense is legit.

535
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Speaker 3: At twenty five, holding steady the Cleveland Browns.

536
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Speaker 1: Oh, I think they're much better than that. Not for

537
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Speaker 1: the season, but I think. I mean, they just battled

538
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: Denver neck and neck. That was an even fight.

539
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Speaker 3: At twenty four, holding steady the Saints.

540
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Speaker 1: Although they're decent two Saint Wors Browns. I guess it

541
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Speaker 1: is a conversation. They just beat them like two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah.

542
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: At twenty three holding steady the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this neighborhood's better than I thought. Yeah.

544
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Speaker 3: They're all teams that if you don't play your best,

545
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Speaker 3: they can beat you.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right right right.

547
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Speaker 3: At twenty two down a spot, Cincinnati.

548
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Speaker 1: O, who's better the Browns of the Bengals. Yeah, yeah,

549
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Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals offense is far and away the

550
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Speaker 1: best unit, but their defense is far and away the worst. Yeah,

551
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: it's a score line with that.

552
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Speaker 3: The over under when they play again this year might

553
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Speaker 3: be sixty.

554
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Speaker 1: Yeah. How many picks and total passing yards and all

555
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: that stuff. All four of those teams are like the

556
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Speaker 1: same way. Yeah.

557
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Speaker 3: At twenty one up a spot, Dallas.

558
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting to look respectable and running the ball

559
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: a little bit better, and Parsons is back. I think

560
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: they're better than all the teams mentioned, But since he's

561
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Speaker 1: favored in Dallas, but yeah, go figure. Yeah. Yeah.

562
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: At twenty down two spots, San Francisco, that's.

563
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Speaker 1: What they are now. I mean, there's just not enough

564
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: bullets in the gun anymore. I mean it's over.

565
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Speaker 3: At nineteen down two spots Atlanta.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the quarterback change absolutely could be in

567
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Speaker 1: the cards. And they are really fortunate to have beaten

568
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Speaker 1: Tampa twice. Yeah, and they earned it. I mean they

569
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Speaker 1: won those games, but Tampa's better than that.

570
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: At eighteen down two spots, Miami.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would put them over everyone mentioned,

572
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: but they have some fatal flaws. That's this time of year.

573
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: It's just not tough. No.

574
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: At seventeen up three, No, seventeen up three spots are

575
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Speaker 3: the Colts.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're about the most average team in the league.

577
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: Them in the Rams, I think, Yeah, well, and that's

578
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: who's next. Sixteen up to three spots is the Rams. Yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: I mean they're in the same tier.

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah. At fifteen holding Steady Arizona.

581
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Hard to play against, though, I mean they're just not

582
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: super talented. Just don't finish them up. Yeah, really interested

583
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Speaker 1: what they look like next year.

584
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 3: At fourteen holding Steady Seattle. Not a lot of changes here.

585
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: No, there's not. I mean kind of a.

586
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: Kind of have an idea who's who.

587
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: I do think Seattle has momentum though, I mean, like

588
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, and I mean that defense is playing well. Yeah.

589
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: At thirteen holding steady Tampa Bay.

590
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: That offense is playing well. Yeah, they're better than Seattle.

591
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: I think i'd like to see Tampa getting the playoffs

592
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: over Atlanta.

593
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: At twelve holding steady Houston.

594
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: Ooh, I might be lower. I wouldn't be higher. You

595
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: can't be higher, can't be higher. But they are eight

596
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: and five. Put it behind a six and sixteen or yeah,

597
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: I mean them against like Tampa is tough for me.

598
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have them below Indy. No. At eleven holding

599
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: steady Washington. Yeah, they should be climbing. That doesn't mean

600
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: if they move up, but at least they're getting right this. Yeah, yeah,

601
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: that was a good win.

602
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: At ten, holding steady Denver.

603
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I might have Denver two spots lower. I didn't say

604
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: anything good about Houston, but I think Houston's probably still.

605
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: I think they're better than Denver.

606
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially as currently constructed without the cornerback. At

607
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: nine holding Steady, Yeah, not much change this week the Chargers.

608
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Chargers are better than Denver. Yeah, yeah, Houston's better than both.

609
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Houston's a lot closer to those teams than they are

610
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: like the Ravens, though, I think it's yeah, Yeah, I

611
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: think so too.

612
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: At eight down three spots, the Ravens.

613
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a dam them. Yeah, I think that's

614
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I think that.

615
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: I think that's the line of delineation right there.

616
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: That there's eight good teams. Yeah, yeah, that I could

617
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: write the story that they're a super Bowl type team,

618
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Yeah. At seven up a spot, the Steelers.

619
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Speaker 1: I would have the Steelers over Minnesota, definitely. I don't know,

620
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: Steelers vus Green Bay. That's a comm that's where wherever

621
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Speaker 1: it's the road, Minnesota or Baltimore for you, I'll take

622
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: Lamar probably Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, Minnesota. I know Minnesota's got

623
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: a great record, but they'd probably my eight.

624
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: NFC teams like they haven't played.

625
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not sold that they're real good. Now.

626
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm sold that they're an above average team. But are

627
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: they real good? Yeah? And actually, of those eight, I

628
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: would say Minnesota has the least chance of winning the

629
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl because of Sam Darnold. Yeah, and they're gonna

630
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: be a wildcard team and I don't know they're as

631
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: good as everyone else. I mean, Ravens play their best

632
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: three Dames in a row, they could win the whole.

633
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: I will say this, it's if I'm separating Green Bay

634
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: from Pittsburgh.

635
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough one for me. Love's turning the ball

636
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: over to Yeah, he's been a I expected a little

637
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: bit more, you know. I thought he'd be more of

638
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: an elevator.

639
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: Like if I'm measuring I'm measuring a team, and I

640
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: think it's all pretty close. That's a significant difference that

641
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: they're turning the ball over more than Pittsburgh.

642
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Like I really I didn't like Love

643
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: coming in the league. It took me a long time

644
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: he sat on the bench, And of course your opinion

645
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't change of them. But I've become very much a believer.

646
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: But he's let you down a little, you know, Like

647
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying who you want for the rest of

648
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: their career, but in one game, do I want Wilson

649
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: or I want Love right now? You know what I mean? Like,

650
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: that's which gonna trust more. We haven't done a quarterback

651
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: list in a while, But who would be higher? Who

652
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: should be higher? I mean, I understand what you're saying.

653
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Speaker 1: I still have hope for him, but he's aggressive. At

654
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: six up A spot is green Bay? Okay? The Steelers

655
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: are seven.

656
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, at five up a spot Minnesota. That's just too

657
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: high for me. Yeah, it would be eight. They're not

658
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: the fifth best team in No. At four holding Steady

659
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Kansas City.

660
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Hmm. I think we ended yesterday's show Steelers for Chiefs.

661
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are a better team right now.

662
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Minnesota would be eight. Chiefs, Packers, Steelers would all be

663
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: ahead of the Ravens, But I don't know my order.

664
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Speaker 1: Probably make a case for all three. Yeah, now I

665
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: get it. I get their respect.

666
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Speaker 3: I mean, and they're eleven and one, but man, it's

667
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: an ugly eleven and one.

668
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: Back to back champions. I mean, yeah, but they're not great.

669
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: At three holding steady Philadelphia, I might have them one.

670
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, these three are the obvious top three, and

671
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: you can make a case for all and they're all

672
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: super impressive. How would you rank the top three? Well,

673
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is two on here and Detroit is won. Detroit

674
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: is probably the best season. They've had the best season,

675
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: but they're starting to leak oil a little bit a

676
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Philadelphia is little is much more healthy

677
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: at this point and rolling both sides of the ball, yeah,

678
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: both line to scrimmage and I know.

679
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: The problem I have with Buffalo is that they've had

680
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Speaker 3: games against Houston in Baltimore where they just.

681
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: Went out and laid an egg against playoff type team.

682
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: Against playoff type other division winner type teams, and they

683
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: didn't farewell.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course this is true, but they're more

685
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Speaker 1: quarterback dependent than those other two teams. Yeah, without question.

686
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Speaker 1: I mean he's a superhero pen. Yeah.

687
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Speaker 3: If you start looking at their schedule and who they've beaten, I.

688
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Know it, but this was a pretty impressive win. I

689
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: mean they have some good wins too, but.

690
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: As a win over San Francisco right now, is that wow?

691
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I think I think they're good.

692
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: They have a win over the Cardinals, yeah, which looks

693
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: better now than it did at the time. Smoke the

694
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Speaker 3: Dolphins in week two.

695
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was with two. That was with Tua.

696
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: Smoke the Jaguars, but then they got smoked by the

697
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Ravens thirty five to ten. Game wasn't even competitive. Then

698
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: they lost to the Texans the next week twenty three

699
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: to twenty in Houston, beat the Jets, barely beat the Titans.

700
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have not played a very difficult schedule. They

701
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: did beat the Seahawks in Seattle thirty one. But Seattle

702
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: hadn't figured things, figured things.

703
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: They're better now than they were. Then beat Miami thirty

704
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: to twenty seven. In week nine, beat the Colts in Indianapolis,

705
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: beat the Chiefs at home, okay, had their buy, and

706
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: then beat the forty nine ers at home.

707
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Speaker 1: They would be three for me. I'd go Detroit, Philly, Buffalo.

708
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to get to see Buffalo at Detroit

709
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: December fifteenth. So they get the Rams at the Rams

710
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: this week, their next two games indoors for the Bells

711
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: at the Rams on the on the Sunday the eighth.

712
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: Then they're at the Lions, and then if Patriots at home,

713
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Jets at home.

714
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: So probably lose one more something like that. Yeah. Now

715
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: they're a real good team. I think Detroit's better. I

716
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: think Philly's better. Yeah, but they have the best quarterback

717
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: of the three.

718
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's capable of beating you.

719
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: I'd kind of like to see their weapons get a

720
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: little more understand the pecking order a little bit, because

721
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Amari the one. Can can kid be the guy they drafted?

722
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: You know, they hasn't been. He's been really disappointing, you know,

723
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: like Cook and Davis look like a good pairing, and

724
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I like where their own lines at. They can rush

725
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: the pass or they don't have a lot of holes.

726
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: But who's the who's the new Digs? I mean, can

727
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: it be Cooper? I don't know.

728
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either. Yeah, but yeah, to me,

729
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: is that enough?

730
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean to win it all?

731
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: I think I think Buffalo is the best team in

732
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: the AFC right now.

733
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like if I said Buffalo goes to the super

734
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: Bowl or the field, you'd take the field. I would

735
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: take the field. Yeah, me too. I don't think they're

736
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: over fifty chance. No thanks. So either, I mean there's

737
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: Houston could get hot or so I mean, weird teams

738
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: could get hot. Yeah, Ravens could get hot. I mean

739
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: certainly the Chiefs and Steelers could be problems. Yeah. So

740
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: that's Eric Edholmes power rankings and many problems with it.

741
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of change there, No, there really isn't.

742
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean, like we kind of know who teams are

743
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: at this point. When we got to Cleveland that early,

744
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're a lot better than that. But then

745
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: there was like eight teams that were all the same

746
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: that weren't garbage but they you know, they're not going

747
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: to play off.

748
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: They're up and down any given week. And yeah interesting. Yeah,

749
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get through another break. He is the

750
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

751
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be

752
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: back to finish up the show right after.

753
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: This at He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

754
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

755
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

756
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly.

757
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt the NFL Pro

758
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame, I should say. Announcing their senior finalists,

759
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: coach and Contributor finals today, Art Rooney Junior did not

760
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: make the cut as the contributor finalist. That goes to

761
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: Ralph Hay. Can you tell me what Ralph Hay did.

762
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who Ralph Hay is. I'm pretty good

763
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: football historian. I don't know him at all. Not good enough.

764
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: Apparently, Hey, an automobile dealer and owner of the Canton

765
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: Bulldogs for nineteen eighteen through nineteen twenty two, is credited

766
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: with organizing owners of a professional football teams in his

767
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: showroom in Canton in nineteen twenty and forming an association

768
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 3: two years later was renamed the National Football League.

769
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: Okay, they're considered like obviously where football was born, the

770
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fames in Canton. Are they the original team,

771
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: give or take? I mean, I mean there are some others,

772
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, it doesn't do any good to have one

773
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: team if you right play each other. I mean, I

774
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: guess that's long overdue if you're kind of the founder

775
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: of the league. But I didn't know who he was, Yeah, right,

776
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I assume he's not still with us.

777
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: The other eight semi finalists in the contributor category were

778
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: Butt Adams, Frank Bucko Kilroy.

779
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: I love how you had to have a nickname real

780
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: ones though. Yeah, it wasn't like a.

781
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: Rob Yeah, Robert Kraft, Art Modell, Art Rooney Jr. Seymour Seawaff,

782
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Doug Williams, and John Wooten.

783
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: I thought he'd been Craft. I think Craft is going

784
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: to get in. I'm kind of sentially, but yeah, I

785
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: mean owners are a weird timeline when they get in.

786
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah too. I think Modell belongs in. I think Roney Jr.

787
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: Belongs in. Yeah, Yeah, that Adams, but I guess Hey

788
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: was long overdue. Yeah, nineteen thirty was doing this good stuff. Uh,

789
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: the coach finalist.

790
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: So that's how they do it now, right, there's one

791
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: coach every year. He's a finalist.

792
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: These guys have to get eighty percent of the vote

793
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: to be actually inducted.

794
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So can the Belichicks of the world go in

795
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: with players now or do you have to go in

796
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: the coach? Now you go in the coach? Okay, okay, okay.

797
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: The finalists were, uh, Bill Arnsparker, Tom Kafflin, Chuck Knock,

798
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, George Seaffert, Mike Shanahan, Clark Shaughnessy,

799
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: and Mike Holmgren and Mike Holmgreen.

800
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: Say, Holmgren, Shanahan, and Schottenheimer are the ones that stood

801
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: out to me there. And if it's any of those three,

802
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. Yeah it was Holmgren. Yeah, Holmgren's

803
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: a finalist. Okay, I bet he goes. I mean it's

804
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: probably yeah, yeah, probably you can. How does that work? Again,

805
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: he's a finalist.

806
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: And then they have to get eighty percent of the.

807
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: They're not competing against anybody it's just can you get

808
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: enough yes notes?

809
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I bet he goes the senior finalists,

810
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: they're three Maxie Bond, I don't know his work either,

811
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: Sterling Sharp and Jim Trier or Tyr.

812
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I should say Sterling Sharp to me, has a better

813
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: case than Terrell Davis.

814
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: He doesn't have as good a case as the two

815
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: guys that.

816
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: He's up against. Who are the other two, Maxi Bond

817
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: and Jim Tyrer. I don't know who the one of

818
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: those guys are.

819
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: Bond played linebacker from nineteen sixty to seventy then came

820
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: out of retirement in nineteen seventy four for Washington.

821
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: He's a nine time pro bowler, won an NFL.

822
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Championship with the Eagles, whom he played with from sixty

823
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: to sixty five before joining the Rams from seventy six

824
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: to seventy or sixty.

825
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Six four years off, Yeah, and then took three or

826
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: four years. Nine time pro bowler, yeah, and a world champion.

827
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I've never heard of him. Did you know

828
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: who that was? I've heard a name, Okay, I didn't

829
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: know that one.

830
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: Tyr or Tyrer. I was considered the dominant offensive tackles

831
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: of his era. He was selected as a member of

832
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: the AFL's All Decade Team of the sixties. Played in

833
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: nine AFL All Star Games in a career that spanned

834
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: thirteen season with the Dallas Texans and Kansas City Chiefs,

835
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: and then spent one season again with Bond in Washington

836
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy four.

837
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know either one of those players. He's

838
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: a ring of vote that pretty good, pretty good cases.

839
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, was a Super Bowl champion with the Chiefs. It

840
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: was part of three AFL championship teams with the Texans

841
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: and Chiefs.

842
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: Okay, so who was the finalist? And well, all three

843
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: of them, Okay, they have the same They got to

844
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: get to They got to get eighty percent of the votes,

845
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: so all three could get in. None could get we none.

846
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different.

847
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: Sharp made five Pro Bowls and three First Team All

848
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: Proteins in a seven year career.

849
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: I would say in that seven years he was the

850
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: second best receiver in the league behind Jerry Rice. He

851
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: was a Superstars just a short amount of time.

852
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: A very short amount of time. Yeah, And if I'm.

853
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Considering considered it compared to their All Day if.

854
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm considering him against these two guys though.

855
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: They their case on paper, sure sounds better. But yeah,

856
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: i'd heard of one of the three.

857
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: And well, because you guys young, I mean, yeah, I know,

858
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: I know, and he was on TV. I can't put

859
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: guys in the Hall of Fame just because they spent

860
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: a long time on TV. He was good like that part,

861
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: he was very good, I get it.

862
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was really good. He was physical as

863
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: could be. I love that. I love the player. I

864
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: thought he was as good as his brother, if not better. Yeah.

865
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: Also reaching that semi finalist stage where Ken Anderson lest

866
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Speaker 3: he has a case Lester Hayes, Bob Kuchenberg, Albert Lewis,

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Speaker 3: Stanley Morgan, and Al.

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Speaker 1: Wistart, because those are the guys that didn't make the cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it makes me think Anderson's never going to go. But

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Speaker 1: he's got a strong case. Yeah, it's kind of surprised me.

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Speaker 1: Like in NFL history you talk about like the best

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the seventies, and I know he carried over

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Speaker 1: the eighties. Aren't as amazing to think, I mean it's Bradshaw, Staubach,

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Speaker 1: Stabler and then we can start talking. Yeah, like Tarkenton,

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Speaker 1: you know, but like it's not like today where you

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Speaker 1: give me the ones from twenty ten to twenty twenty. Here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the list of twelve of them that are all stars.

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Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't as many as a thought, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I thought it might help Anderson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, but didn't make the cut this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not looking good. I mean, he's been hovering

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So of course we know who the Modern Era

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Speaker 3: finalists are, but that all will be announced at the

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Speaker 3: NFL Honors Show February sixth at super Bowl that super

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Speaker 3: Bowl weekend, that's the day before the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody will convene and make their votes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I get it. I can't fight that stuff

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Speaker 1: too much. All those guys make some sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see how that goes in this one.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Matt, that's going to do it for the

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Speaker 3: show today. Yeah, we got some guest lined up tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: we get, of course, our usual visit with Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 3: and we also got Jimmy Rooney stopping by to talk

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Speaker 3: about his update on his book, so we'll get to.

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Speaker 1: That as well.

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Speaker 3: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller, who

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Speaker 3: also runs the Justin Miller Hotline, and for Tyler viitt Meyer,

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Speaker 3: who makes sure our video gets out on YouTube. I'm Dale, Lolly.

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