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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me throw out one metric. I guess

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Speaker 2: I kind of got to do this. The global sportswear

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Speaker 2: market size valued at nearly four hundred and thirteen billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in twenty twenty two, estimated to reach nearly seven

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Speaker 2: hundred forty nine billion by twenty thirty one. And listen,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of players in it and looking to

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Speaker 2: take a share of it. Is a partnership. Our next

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Speaker 2: two guests, both with brands that are very well known

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Speaker 2: now with a combined brand known as Greatness Wins.

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Speaker 3: So let's get to the interview with more joining us

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Speaker 3: here in the studio. The founder of Vuntucket, who came

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Speaker 3: up with the idea for his casual shirts while working

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Speaker 3: at GE Healthcare. Chris Ricobono back with us, Also with

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Speaker 3: US Hall of Fame shortstop and five time World Series

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Speaker 3: champion with the New York Yankees. Also an e commerce

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Speaker 3: investor to Derek Jeter, both here in the Bloomberg BusinessWeek studio. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 3: first up, we want to know how you guys got together.

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Speaker 3: How did this come together? Who called who? Who had

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Speaker 3: the idea for who to get involved. How did it

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Speaker 3: come out?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, and you start, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: version comes out.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say Derek reached out to me,

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Speaker 4: but that's not how it worked. So I over the pandemic.

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Speaker 4: I was looking to solve another problem in the fashion industry,

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Speaker 4: and I thought about athletic apparel and it didn't exist

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Speaker 4: for me. Something that had a great fit but also

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Speaker 4: had performance first in mind. So I came up with

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Speaker 4: this concept in this idea, but now I wanted a

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Speaker 4: few athletes behind me. And at the time, I think

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Speaker 4: Derek might have still had a contract with Nike or

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Speaker 4: it was winding down, and I didn't think that I

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Speaker 4: could get to him or that he'd be interested. But

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Speaker 4: after a year of bothering him and his agents, he

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Speaker 4: actually called me and said, Chris, I'm just not that

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Speaker 4: interested and excited in this. But I said, he can't

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Speaker 4: get off say he can't get off the phone, Derek,

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Speaker 4: how can I get you excited? So we talked for

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Speaker 4: a while after that, and we kind of came together

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Speaker 4: with both of our visions. You know, I'm apparel guy.

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Speaker 4: That's the way I think about it. Derek's was a

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Speaker 4: successful entrepreneur but also very successful, as you know, a

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Speaker 4: Nike guy, So I knew that he had a lot

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Speaker 4: of insight that I didn't have, and he shared it

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Speaker 4: with me, and we launched a brand about a year

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Speaker 2: Okay, you weren't excited and then you became excited. How

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Speaker 2: that happened? How did you make that turn?

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Speaker 1: Well? I think you know, first and foremost getting to

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Speaker 1: know Chris, we talked about the idea. I've had relationships

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Speaker 1: with athletic brands throughout my career and great relationships and

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Speaker 1: I still do today. And you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: first speaking to Chris, I was like, well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a crowded space. It's not as

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Speaker 1: easy to attack this space, and it's going to take

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say I wasn't excited, but I when

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Speaker 1: I do something, I'm all in and if I'm not

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Speaker 1: at that point when we were having the discussion, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think now is the time. And

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Speaker 1: then we actually got together. We had a chance to

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Speaker 1: getting me very very excited about it. So I guess

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Speaker 1: that's the best way to put it in our short

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Speaker 3: You do, though, Derek, probably get a lot of investment pitches,

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Speaker 3: not just in the apparel world, but yeah, no question,

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Speaker 3: from lots of different entrepreneurs who want your involvement. What

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Speaker 3: was it specifically about this one with Chris with Untucket

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Speaker 1: I think it's you got to get to know the

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Speaker 1: people any business that you're in, the same thing, when

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Speaker 1: you're on a team on the field, you have to

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Speaker 1: have the right people on the side. Yeah, exactly. I

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Speaker 1: found Chris to be very very passionate about it. You

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Speaker 1: can't fake passion. You either are you aren't. And you know,

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Speaker 1: even when I told him that I wasn't interested, he

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Speaker 2: I always think about that. I remember talking to a

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Speaker 1: Somebody, Oh, without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean you end up working a lot. It's funny

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Speaker 4: when Derek said that he wanted to be more involved

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Speaker 4: and he when he goes all in, I was thinking

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Speaker 4: he was just doing that as an equity, play some

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Speaker 4: more equity. Yeah, that you actually want it to be.

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Speaker 4: And Derek's liked. I mean, he wants to talk about everything,

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Speaker 4: every decision, and you want somebody who's I want something

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Speaker 4: that guess because I don't know everything and I definitely

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Speaker 4: don't know everything in the athletic apparel space. So it's

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Speaker 1: This is recorded, right, I'm gonna play We're gonna play

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Speaker 1: that back.

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Speaker 2: You can do that, you can love it, you can

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Speaker 2: loop it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Well the same thing for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Derek, when you get involved in something, how

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Speaker 2: you know? We asked about what made this interesting, but

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Speaker 2: in general, how involved do you want to be? I

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Speaker 2: mean how much do you have to love the brand

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Speaker 1: You have to be involved? I mean, otherwise you're just

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Speaker 1: given your money and you're hoping someone else runs with

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Speaker 1: it and makes you more. But when you're passionate about something,

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Speaker 1: when you put in the time, you put in the effort.

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing to say about us is

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Speaker 1: we disagree probably more than we agree, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. I mean, you don't want people

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Speaker 1: going to make improvements, You're never going to make progress.

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Speaker 2: Is it hard to say no to?

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Speaker 3: Derek?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: We just talked with the leadership we are author of

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Speaker 2: a leadership book, talked about CEOs who once they get

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Speaker 2: to the top, they surround themselves with people who say

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Speaker 4: Listen, I rolled the dice right from the beginning, and

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Speaker 4: we went after each other a little bit, But like

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Speaker 2: Well, I do wonder when does it get a little tricky.

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Speaker 2: Like any partnership, whether it's a marriage, whether it's working relationships,

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Speaker 2: whether it's business relationships, there's always tough times. What are

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Speaker 2: some of those looking at me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, you guys, just keep going.

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Speaker 1: You want to you answer that question?

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Speaker 2: No, But I really do feel like a little bit

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Speaker 2: of debate or a little bit of arguing, like gets

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Speaker 1: I think it does. You have to have a difference

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Speaker 2: I said, I do like you Tim.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, like I said, you're not going to make any

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Speaker 1: any progress moving forward. And we probably we disagree more

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Speaker 1: there are some things that I know he's an expert.

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Speaker 1: It's impossible to be an expert everything, right, You surrounds

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Speaker 1: your people that are much more intelligent in different fields.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Chris obviously has a lot of experience

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Speaker 1: comes to athletic brands. So it's okay for us to disagree.

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Speaker 3: So Chris let's go there, because this is a really

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Speaker 3: crowded space. You mentioned Nike, but I mean if you

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Speaker 3: think about upstarts like Viori Rhone, then there are the

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Speaker 3: big players like Nike, Adidas and the like. How do

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Speaker 3: you carve out a place for you specifically?

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Speaker 4: So my it's funny, just like with on Tucket, I

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Speaker 4: really needed this product. Then you might ask why. You

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Speaker 4: know there's plenty of athletic brands and athlesier brands. For me,

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Speaker 4: the athletic brands that existed, the quality wasn't there, the

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Speaker 4: but they didn't have that modern fit. The athleisure brands

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Speaker 2: I've got yoga pants on that are pilling a little bit,

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Speaker 2: so I totally get you. What's the kind of what's

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Speaker 2: the growth trajectory? Tell me what we can tell we're Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: We love numbers, you know that. What's the growth on this?

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Speaker 1: Well, we need you to go buy some pants, just

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Speaker 1: get right on it to help it's out. But I

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Speaker 1: think for us, I'll let Chris follow up on it.

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Speaker 1: we want to show some steady progression. I'll let Chris

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Speaker 1: get in a number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, will be ten years before you really feel like

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Speaker 4: Mean so much competition. You want to just stay relevant.

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Speaker 4: You want to make a great product. That's the first thing.

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Speaker 4: You got to make a great product. You need your

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Speaker 4: repeats to be there. Which they are for us. The

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Speaker 4: other thing that's really exciting with us is not just

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Speaker 4: you have the e comm then eventually stores, which is

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Speaker 4: what I did with on Tucket. We have a great

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Speaker 4: wholesale business we're building at Greatness Wins. We have a

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Speaker 4: golf business. We'll be in eighty clubs. We were in

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Speaker 4: eighty clubs this spring. We have a bookstore business. Derek

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Speaker 4: just wore a Michigan sweatshirt on his honore a captain

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Speaker 4: with Misty Copeland, who's our women.

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Speaker 2: This foundary women who do a little bit of shopping.

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Speaker 4: So we have something that will be announcing soon. That's exciting.

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Speaker 4: So I'm very happy with earlier are. People love the product,

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Speaker 4: they love the quality, and we're just getting going, but

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Speaker 2: because I am curious, Derek, are you looking for any

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Speaker 1: No, I've been down that path. No, take a break

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Speaker 1: from that. I spend a lot of time with my

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Speaker 1: Baseball ownership. So at this particular point, I think I

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Speaker 2: So no other Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you say take a break, are you ruling

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Speaker 3: it out for the future or do you want to

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Speaker 3: get back in there.

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Speaker 1: I learned a long time ago never say never yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you never know. I just said it three times

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Speaker 2: I do also wonder the two of you, like when

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Speaker 2: you think about either ath leisure or athletic appareled you know,

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Speaker 4: Or I mean we always talk about Nike and the

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Speaker 4: Jordan brand. Those are the greatest, you know, probably the

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Speaker 4: greatest brand maybe ever, so well, you know you want

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Speaker 4: to be them, but if you're half half of what

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Speaker 4: give a reason, you know, why you might need our

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Speaker 2: Leader you look at your smiling.

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Speaker 1: No, there's a lot, you know, it's one that comes

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Speaker 1: to mind, he said, Jordan Brand. You know, MJ's been

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Speaker 2: All Right, you're going to go there, you go, world serious,

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Speaker 2: I know I have to do this. I have to

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Speaker 2: do this, all right, So you're going to be in.

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Speaker 1: The booth, right I am? Yes? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who do you can you think about?

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Speaker 1: Who might be there? I don't know, it depends, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to skirt the question I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of it is matchups. We'll know in

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Speaker 1: We just couldn't beat them, and you know, finally we

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Speaker 1: So there's some good teams out there.

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Speaker 2: Chris, you talk baseball, and I'm curious what you might

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Speaker 2: think for the World Series.

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Speaker 1: It knows nothing about basic do know baseball?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't did a deal with I don't

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Speaker 4: bother Derek with it, but I'm a Yankees fan. We'll

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Speaker 4: see it's they don't seem to be able to perform

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs for the last what is it fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Now, we'll discuss it on.

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Speaker 2: Hey listen, guys, got about forty seconds left here, real

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Speaker 2: quickly in I don't know, a year from now, what's

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Speaker 2: the conversation around your company.

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Speaker 4: I think we'll start to look at stores. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I love stores. Not many people do in retail. We

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Speaker 4: have nine of them on Tucket and we're opening more.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really important for the male shoppers. So

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Speaker 4: I think we'll look at that and we'll look at

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Speaker 4: continued growth in these different areas that we discuss, bookstores, golf,

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Speaker 2: Same thing for you, Derek, in terms of greatness, wins

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Speaker 2: and a year from now, what are we gonna be

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's all awareness. You want people to

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Speaker 1: be aware. You want to walk around the streets and

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Speaker 1: see people wearing it. And I'm very confident in the

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Speaker 1: fact that someone buys our product and they wear it,

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Speaker 1: they'll be happy with it and they'll return.

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Speaker 2: As a customer and no pilling.

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Speaker 1: You promise, Well, you got to tell me.

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Speaker 2: Derek, Derek Jeter, of course, Chris Ricobono, you guys got me.

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Speaker 1: FLLL mixed