1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to the one and 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: only West Hodkowits. We're coming to you here from our 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. Next up for the 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Green May Packers is the New York Giants on Sunday. Now, 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: just a bit of a programming note. Because it's Thanksgiving week, 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: our beloved producer Matt Arvin, affectionately known as Marvin, he 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: will be off with his family for the long weekend. 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Good for him, and because of that, we won't have 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: shows this week on Thursday and Friday. So today we 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: need to sort of combine our Tuesday Wednesday shows and 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: then tomorrow will combine our Thursday Friday shows and call 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: it an early rap on the week from this desk. 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: So I want to first go to a quick update 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: with regards to the Packers, because we did mention on 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: yesterday's show that Brian Bulaga had left the game against 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: the forty Niners, obviously with a knee injury. Matt Lafleur 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: did not provide an update for the media as to 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: where that injury stands, but it sounds like He's leaving 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: the possibilities open as to how the Packers might compensate 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: for that injury if Bolaga has to miss some time. 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Was that your read on the situation. Yeah, they're keeping 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: everything on the table right now. Alex Light was the 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: guy that came in the second year player out of Richmond. 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: His you know, still yet to make an NFL start, 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: So that is obviously one potential avenue they could go down. 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: And La Fleur also said if they had a full 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: week of preparation, if Blagga couldn't go, that Light would 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: be better for it, would be ready for this task. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: But you know, they could shuffle the deck too, and 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: that's something that Mike McCarthy did early on in his tenure. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I think back to, you know, when t J. Lang 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: would bump out and a right tackle moving from the 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: guard position. You have a guy in Billy Turner that 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: can play multiple positions. You have a guy in Lucas 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Patrick who has six NFL starts, played in thirty five 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: NFL games on his resume that could potentially slide in 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: it right guards. So there's a lot of different, you know, 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: variations of this offensive line that could go with the 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: big thing that Lafleur discussed though, is they want to 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: get their best five out there if Bolaga isn't healthy 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: and isn't prepared, isn't ready to be, you know, clear 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: to be out there against the Giants. Yeah. And I 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: think the other message, at least the other message that 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: I took from Matt Lafleur's Monday press conference was that 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: it's on everybody on this Packers team, players, coaches, everyone 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: to own what happened, to take their part in ownership 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: in the disaster in San Francisco. But there's also a 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: heck of a lot of confidence within the walls of 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: that locker room, within the walls of those coaches offices, 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: that that the right people are here to turn this 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: thing around. This is the Packers themselves do not believe 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: this is suddenly going to spark some losing streak here. 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: They believe in themselves, they believe in what they're doing 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: and uh, and they're confident that they're going to turn 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: this thing back around quick. What's been really neat to 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: see over the course of the season, now we're almost 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: into December, is the maturation of Matt Lafleur just at 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: the podium and doing these news conferences, and honest with you, 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I felt like that was 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: one of his best press conferences had as the Packers 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: head coach. And certainly you don't want to be up 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: there having to discuss what happened in a loss, but 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the way he handled it, and you know he since 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: the very beginning. Matt for is always the first one 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: to point his finger back at himself, at his coaching staff, 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: but he was honest. You know, j K. Scott is 68 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: struggling right now. There's been some issues there with the 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: punt unit. They have to get straightened out. But he 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: was very quick to say that. He said it to 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Scott to his face. I believe in you. We believe 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you because the proof is there. You have done it 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: in this league. And that was just one example of 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: many that he had throughout that news conference, whether it 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: was offense, defense, otherwise. They have to look inward. I 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: put that as my inbox title first, that you have 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to look inward. You have to find answers because this 78 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: isn't about winning these next few games. The Packers should 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: win these next few games. It's about being better now 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: for a potential playoff run. Yeah, and as I wrote 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: in my story late on Monday from that press conference 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: about the criticism being just as strong as the confidence 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: that the Packers have. Here, the words that he said 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: to J. K. Scott, I think reflect how he feels 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: about the entire team. Hey, we've done it, we know 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: we we know we can do it, so let's uh, 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: let's put in the work. One of my favorite lines 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: from that press conference he was asked, Okay, so how 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: do you get this thing turned around? And he just said, 90 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the only way I know how to do it is 91 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: to go back to work, day by day and and 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: and it's the cliche. It's one day at a time, 93 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: it's one practice at a time, it's one game planning 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: session at a time, whatever the whatever the case might be, 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: whatever your job, whatever your part is in this thing, 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: it's just about going back to work. And you don't 97 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: completely forget about a disaster like what happened in San Francisco, 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: but you don't dwell on it at the same time. 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: And I think there's there's a fine line that athletes 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: at this level, professional athletes in particular and coaches always 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: have to walk that you have to learn from the past, 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: but you can't let it bog you down at the 103 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: same time. And I think that's the line the Packers 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: are planning to walk this week. That line that La 105 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: Fleur said reminded me of something that Jordy Nelson always 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: used to say. And I know there are members of 107 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: the media that would get kind of annoyed by it 108 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: and saying that. But you know what, Mike, I wrote 109 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: this also an inbox for Tuesday. There isn't a magic 110 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: pill here. No, you can't just go and sign a 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: free agent or trade for a player and then okay, 112 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: all your problems are solved. No improvement comes from within 113 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: because this is yes, it's it's November twenty six as 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: we tape this show. The first day of the off 115 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: season program, I think was April eighteen. That's seven months 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: that you've been working with the core unit of this team. 117 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: That's how you win in this league. You win with 118 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: that unit. And I actually this was another thing I 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: went off on an inbox. This is just becoming Packers inbox, 120 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: but it was somebody men. You know, the Packers didn't 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: make a move for a receiver at the trading deadline. 122 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: They didn't get Aja Green. Aja Green still has yet 123 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: to play. They didn't get Mohammed Sanu. Mohammed Sanu has 124 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: a hundred and eight receiving yards in three games. He 125 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: was held without a catch last week against Dallas. They 126 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: will you know, they didn't ge Emmanuel Sanders. He torched 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: the team. He had one catch for fifteen yards in 128 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: that game. You have to be able to find improvement 129 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: from your players from your locker room, and that is 130 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: how you're going to beat the Giants. That's how you're 131 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: going to beat Washington, That's how you're going to beat 132 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. And that's ultimately where you have to 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: be going into that game against Minnesota. Yeah. Absolutely, well, 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: next up is the New York Giants. That is the 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: next one on the schedule of Packers traveling to the 136 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: opposite coast, going east this weekend for a one o'clock 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Eastern noon Central Time kick off, the first road game 138 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: of the season in the early television window. If you can, 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: if you can believe that, it's all the way until 140 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend before the Packers play a road game in 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: the in the first TV window. And this is the 142 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: one I would have liked to have been at night. 143 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I've only been to New York twice. Michael, you want 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: a galvant around Central Park and everything every the three. 145 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: This is a side note, but all three games that 146 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I've covered where the Packers have played the Giants of 147 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the Jets have been New one pm Eastern time starts. 148 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: What's up with that? So it goes. I feel like 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I've spent like three years of my life in San Francisco, 150 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: but I mean like New York. Okay, but no, this 151 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: this is it's it is. It's nice to be able 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to get on a somewhat normal schedule again. We're gonna 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: get We're gonna get home after the game at at 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: a like a normal time, at least from a from 155 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: a work perspective. What a win? Yeah, well awesome. The 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Giants a team that is definitely in a rebuild mode. 157 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: They are struggling. They are two and nine. They actually 158 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: started the season two and two, and they've lost seven 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: consecutive games. Offensively, they're building around there first round draft 160 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: picks from the last two years, and that is running 161 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: back stay Kwan Barkley out of Penn's Day and quarterback 162 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones out of Duke Now. Barkley was injured earlier 163 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in the year, so he doesn't really have the um 164 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the full slate of games in terms of his statistics 165 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: this year. But that being said, it's still surprising that 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: a running back of his talent and his caliber only 167 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: has two rushing touchdowns this year. The Giants deciding after 168 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: just a couple of games this year to move on 169 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: from Eli Manning and to throw the rookie Daniel Jones, 170 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: the number six overall pick in the draft. They decided 171 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: to throw him into the fire in September and move 172 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: on to the future sooner than some people were predicting. 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And uh, um, you know, typical of a rookie quarterback, 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Jones has had his ups and downs. Yeah, it's uh, 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, this is the bright spot for them, though, 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: let's be honest. I mean, I think Daniel Jones, the 177 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: way he's played this year has shown people, Okay, maybe 178 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't a total reach to go up and get 179 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: this guy. Now that being said, he's made mistakes, and 180 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: he's made mistakes from the very moment that he replaced 181 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. He has seventeen touchdowns, He has eight interceptions 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: thrown for around yards sixty two point five percent clip fine, 183 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: fourteen fumbles, ten lost and if you look at the 184 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: takeaway margins, the turnover differential, that's where the Giants have 185 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: lost a lot of games. And let's be honest, Mike, 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants are dangerous. They played Chicago very 187 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: tough last week, but there is a dearth of talent 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: with this roster. Cody Lattimore, who is also draft in 189 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: that same draft that the same second round, is Davantas. 190 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: He started nine games this series and eight receiving yards. 191 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Evan Ingram right now has been dealing with 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the injuries. He's there probably their best outside skill position 193 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: player that isn't Sae Kwon Barkley, And even say Kwon 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Barkley has not really been himself here over the last 195 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: three or four weeks. You know, there's even these conversations, 196 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: these stories that I saw that hey, you know, maybe 197 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: they consider shutting him down, you know, with the way 198 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: things have gone this year in the ankle injury and 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: everything like that, and just the lack of production and 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: where the season is headed for the Giants. Golden Tate 201 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: is in the con Ushon protocol. Yeah, you see on 202 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, Jabriel Peppers, you know, 203 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: dealing with that back injury, that transverse process injury that 204 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: you've heard about the last years. They're hurting unit and 205 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: the Packers you cannot take them lightly. You have to 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: take them serious. But let's be honest. It's a rookie 207 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and there's a lot of questions. The offensive line 208 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: has been playing through some things. They got to take 209 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: care of business against this group. Yeah, absolutely, the Packers 210 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: do need to take care of business. You mentioned they are, 211 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: they are banged up a little bit. When I look 212 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: at the defensive side of the ball, what jumps out 213 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: at me is that during the seven game losing streak 214 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: that the Giants are on, only once in those seven games, 215 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: and it was last week against the Bears, only once 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: have they allowed fewer than twenty seven points to the opposition. 217 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, teams are putting up big scoring numbers against 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: this defensive unit, and it's starting quickly. In games West. 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: You look at the quarter by quarter breakdown for the Giants, 220 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: they've been outscored eighty one to twenty seven in the 221 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: quarter of games. You and I have been talking, you know, 222 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: all the time about obviously the Packers wanting to get 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: out to a fast start, and I know We're talking 224 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: yesterday about being able to win a game on the 225 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: road maybe when things don't start out all that well, 226 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and you know, still finding a way, but just based 227 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: on this particular opponent and how teams have beaten the 228 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: Giants consistently this year, you have to get out to 229 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: a fast start and make that rookie quarterback play from behind. Yeah, 230 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: and you need to be able to to sink your 231 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: teeth into this defense and and get the yards that 232 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: have been out there so far this season, especially if 233 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: Peppers doesn't play. Peppers has been arguably their best defensive 234 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: player this season. I mean, if you if you really 235 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: break it down, I mean, he's made some big plays 236 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: at the safety position. Genera's Jenkins is a guy I 237 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: really respect. At cornerback, Marcus Golden has seven and a 238 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: half sacks, But outside of that, yeah, Genor's Jenkins has 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: four interceptions. He's certainly been a playmaker for them in 240 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: the back end as well. But they have ten interceptions 241 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: as a total, you know, and and four those belong 242 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: to Jenkins, two of them to Ryan Connelly, and then 243 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Jabriel Peppers has one of them. So I mean it's 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: just it's one of these deals where you look at 245 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: where season is headed for the Giants and being on 246 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: the skid that they're on. This is why you can't 247 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: have a letdown. And that's why the Packers had to 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: make sure they get their bodies right, because this is 249 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: a game. You have to scheme, you have to prepare, 250 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: you have to plan for the Giants playing their very best. 251 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: And the Floor said of himself standing at the podium, 252 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: you can't take them lightly. You saw what happened last 253 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: week with with the Bears and how close that game was. 254 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: At the same time, that was a nineteen to fourteen 255 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: game in which the Bears and you know, Mitchell Traubisk 256 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: have been working through some things and they haven't been 257 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: able to find the running game. Packers are a different breed. 258 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: They're eight and three, they have more wins right now. 259 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Are just as many wins is the next three opponents 260 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: that they're gonna face combined. It starts with the Giants. 261 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: You have to be able to get that w Yeah, 262 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: absolutely well, looking at the bigger picture here for the Packers, 263 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I know we talked about a little bit a little 264 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: bit yesterday, but you're tied for first in the NFC 265 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: North at eight and three with the Minnesota Vikings. You're 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: looking up in terms of the rest of the NFC. 267 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: You're looking up at the Niners at ten and one, 268 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: the Saints at nine, into the Seahawks also at nine 269 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: into the Vikings play the Seahawks this week on Monday 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Night Football, so somebody is going to take another loss there. 271 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: But with what happened on Monday Night Football with the 272 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams picking up their fifth losses, the Baltimore 273 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: Ravens continue to just steamroll the league right now. Um, 274 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and we could do a whole show on the Baltimore 275 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar Jackson with what that with what that 276 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: outfit is doing. But where I'm going with this West 277 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: is that it And I don't like to say, hey, 278 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: this is all set in stone, We've got it all 279 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: figured out with five games to go, but you look 280 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: at where things are in the NFC and it kind 281 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: of looks like you already know really where the two 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: wild cards are going to come from and how and 283 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: how this is going to shake out. And I mentioned 284 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: this to you yesterday when we were talking off camera. 285 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: There's a very good chance here that in the NFC North, 286 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: with the Packers and the Vikings. Barring some crazy slump 287 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: or you know, by either team that we're looking at, 288 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the winner of the NFC North is going to be 289 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: the three seed and the runner up in the NFC 290 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: North is going to be the sixth seed, which essentially 291 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: means that the game in Minneapolis in Week sixteen very 292 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: well could simply determine the location of the wild card game, 293 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: because the Packers and Vikings very well could meet again 294 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: as that three six matchup and the winner gets to 295 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: host it and the loser will be the team on 296 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: the road. It kind of looks like that's where this 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: all is pointing, even even to say that with five 298 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: games left as it stands, yes, it is going to 299 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how San Francisco and New 300 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Orleans kind of meander through this month of December, because 301 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: they both have difficult matchups still in the schedule, and 302 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: they have some teams within their own divisions that are 303 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: going to play each of them tough. That being said, 304 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: if you look at the way that things have kind of, 305 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, laid out here, it's actually kind of interesting. 306 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Like in my time with the Packers, Packers have been 307 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: playing from behind. They played from behind in fourteen or sixteen, 308 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I should stay with the run. The table being at 309 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: four and six. Um, it really was the last time, 310 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: going back to two thousand and fourteen, where they've been 311 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: in a position like this where their works kind of 312 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: cut out for them. They've positioned themselves to be a 313 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: playoff team, and now you're trying to climb the seating chart. Uh, 314 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: that's fascinating. And I said this on the radio, the 315 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: pregame radio. I know I said this to you last week. 316 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I may be one of the only people that remember 317 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: is just based on how the last two and a 318 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: half years have played out. But Aaron Rodgers standing in 319 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: that that podium at Mercedes ben Stadium and talking about 320 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: the importance of playing playoff games at home because they've 321 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: had to play on the road a lot since the 322 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game in two thousand and fourteen. Ever since then, 323 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: it's been a grind. This is the opportunity and in 324 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the unique thing about it is where San Francisco got 325 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: a big win. I think if you're looking at the 326 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: overall a lot of things here, Green Bay has a 327 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: much better schedule heading into a potential playoff run than 328 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: what San Francisco is gonna have to do with and 329 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: how competitive those games are gonna be. So that depends 330 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: on perspective, right, is that conditioning yourself or is that 331 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: wearing yourself down? We'll find out in January. But be 332 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: that as it may. The Packers and T. J. Lang 333 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: tweeted this um yesterday too. I believe for two days 334 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: ago Packers could very easily be thirteen and three, twelve 335 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: and four if you work for it, if you do 336 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: what you need to do. That's why, going back to 337 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: your original point of this entire question, that Week sixteen matchup, 338 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Packers are still looking for that win at US Bank Stadium. 339 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: What better way to make a statement about what this 340 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: team could potentially accomplished in January and maybe into February, 341 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: then finally being able to take out the Vikings at 342 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: home to win a division title. That's that's where my 343 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: eyes are right now. But in order to be even 344 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: in that conversation, the Giants, Washington Chicago teams that have 345 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: had real difficulties this year that I've had to work 346 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: through some stuff, You've seen changes across the word, you 347 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: have to be able to put those teams away. Yeah, absolutely, 348 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the Packers have to take care of business. And certainly 349 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: with two of those three, as you mentioned, Washington Chicago, 350 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: both being at lambeau Field, the Packers will be this 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: weekend at the Giants. The Packers will be wrapping up 352 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: this stretch of four road games in a stretch of 353 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: five games over the course of six weeks, with the 354 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: bye week mixed in between. Then you're gonna come back 355 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: home and you have back to back home games against 356 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: teams that are looking up at you record wise, looking 357 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: up at you in the standings. So yes, I mean, 358 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: all eyes are on that week six team, two nights 359 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: before Christmas, Monday Night football at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. 360 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: But the Packers have to put themselves in position to 361 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: where that game means what they wanted and needed to mean. 362 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: And that's what these next three weeks are all about. Yeah, 363 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: and two things I want to say. First thing is 364 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: we have to see where this injury this week takes 365 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: with the Giants, because if Evan Ingram plays, if rhtt 366 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Ellison plays, those are the top two tight ends. That's 367 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: those are those are safety valves forward Daniel Jones. And 368 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: that's also a position where the Packers have had struggled 369 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: and say you can bet Daniel Jones wants Evan Ingram 370 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: his top tight end out there against the Packers. With 371 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: the way the Packers defenses struggled against tight ends the 372 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: waiky Cushing protocols go. We'll see. I saw the play 373 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: with with Golden Tate. We'll see how that goes. But 374 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly if he if he would happen to 375 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: get cleared, that's a big weapon that has a lot 376 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: of experience against Green Bay. So all those things have 377 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: to get chalked up and accounted for. What I want 378 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: to point to you though, is I was trying to 379 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: think of this, and that was this is actually yesterday. 380 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, but I had neither the 381 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: time nor inclination actually want to look this up. I 382 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: don't remember a year like this and the NFC, at 383 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: least the a f C. Maybe it's happened because of 384 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: the overall dominance at the top of that that conference, 385 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: but we're going into the month of December. You really 386 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: did have six clear cut teams where you have at 387 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: the very top green Bay, San Francisco, Seattle in the 388 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Minnesota has played catch up in his back 389 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: in this thing. And then whoever wins the NFC East, 390 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: and that's kind of it. I mean, if the M's win, 391 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: as you said yesterday, the Rams right to me that 392 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: that was that was the thing going into last night. 393 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: If the Rams would have been able to beat the 394 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Ravens and get to seven and four, then you're looking 395 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: at another team that's right on the heels of that 396 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: last wild card spot, which right now, that last wild 397 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: card spot is whoever finishes second in the NFC North 398 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: based on where the records are. But with the Rams 399 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: picking up their fifth loss, you have the teams in 400 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: the NFC East. It doesn't it doesn't look like the 401 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: runner up in the NFC East is really going to 402 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: be in a position to get a wild card. It 403 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, absolutely, But the problem is that 404 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Eagles both to each other. So 405 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be another loss no matter no matter which 406 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: team potentially runs the table. Well, the one the one 407 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: that runs the table is is going to win the 408 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: division and and be handing the loss to the other one. 409 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: So um, I agree with you. I can't remember. I 410 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: can't remember any year that I've been doing this where 411 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: we're sitting here talking the of Thanksgiving and looking at 412 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: the NFC picture, going, you know, we can we can 413 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: be pretty darn sure who the six teams are going 414 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs. Now, we don't know one 415 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: through six exactly how that's going to shake out, with 416 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: the exception of the fact that it sure looks like 417 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: the champion of the NFC East is going to be 418 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: the four, and it certainly looks like the runner up 419 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: in the NFC West is going to be the five. 420 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I say that, you know, with that 421 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: the with the four and the five kind of already 422 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: figured out in terms of where they're coming from. That's 423 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: why it looks to me like in the NFC North, 424 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: the champion is going to be the three and the 425 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: runner up is going to be the six. So winning 426 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the division gets you the home game for the rematches 427 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: is kind of where this is headed. Now. Obviously things 428 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: can change, but it does have a different feel to 429 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: it that here we are with five games to go, 430 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and we're not looking at this whole list of teams 431 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC saying, oh, well, they're only one game 432 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: backer they're tied with those guys, are everybody? Everybody is 433 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: at least two games are more behind the NFC North 434 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: runner up, which is essentially in the sixth spot right now. Yeah, 435 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and this is why this month of December is gonna 436 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: be fascinating, because you look at the NFC West right now, 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: there is a scenario where those two teams, Seattle in 438 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco could win this thing out play each other 439 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: in week seventeen for that division championship in the number 440 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: one by the bye overall you know, home field vanage 441 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs, and there's a scenario where San Francisco 442 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: could lose that game, be fourteen and two and be 443 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the wild card. Yeah, I mean that would be something well, 444 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and and that would be if if that plays out, 445 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: that would be reminiscent in some senses of not exactly 446 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the same. But when the Lions came to lambeau Field 447 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: in the finale, in the winner was winning the North 448 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and getting a bye and getting the two seat, and 449 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: the loser was going to be a wild card team 450 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: and going on the road the very next the very 451 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: next week, and the Packers ended up winning that game. 452 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: The Lions went down to Dallas and lost, Alice came 453 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: to Green Bay and lost, and then that's what sent 454 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: the Packers to Seattle. But you're right, the way it's 455 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: shaping up this year, that Week seventeen could be for 456 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: the difference between the one seed and the five seed. 457 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about you talk about the highest 458 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: of the highest of steaks, and then and then the loser, 459 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: the loser having to go on the road immediately um 460 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: after putting everything they would have into trying to win 461 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: that Week seventeen game. It that's that's the intrigue here 462 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: in terms of how this will play out in the NFC. 463 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily question of who's going to 464 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: get in again, barring one of these six teams that 465 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about going into just a major slump, which 466 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't see happening based on the way things look 467 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: right now. It's not about who's getting in, it's about 468 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: where they're going to be slot. It is funny though, 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: as much as we make and then certainly the San 470 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: Francisco Fos won that game Sunday, but as much as 471 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: we make about you know, the outcome of that, that 472 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: really was kind of a must win game for the 473 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: forty niners because you look at it now, you travel 474 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: the Baltimore, you travel the New Orleans, and you host 475 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: Atlanta who came back down to Earth, and you host 476 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: the Ramps who are struggling, and then you got to 477 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: go to and you have to go to see that 478 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: is a heck of a way to finish a month, 479 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: especially when you consider the fact they have not had 480 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: a bike since week four. Well, it's interesting, I'll say this. 481 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I I definitely sense that when you know, we're only 482 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: out in San Francisco, out on the West coast for 483 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: one night, but just catching things on the local news, 484 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: looking at stuff online, this whole narrative out there was, 485 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, this three game gauntlet that the Niners have. 486 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: They have to play the Packers and they have to 487 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: go on the road to Baltimore and then they have 488 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: to go on the road to um um New Orleans. 489 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: This three game gauntlet, it's like, oh, you know, the 490 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: forty Niners really have to prove themselves. I think I 491 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: think they started to internalize all that. I mean, they 492 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: they came out obviously and made a statement against the 493 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Packers and uh, and now they're going onto this two 494 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: game road swing to to Baltimore, New Orleans with U 495 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: with all kinds of confidence and they're saying, yeah, we 496 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: are out to prove something like here we come. So um, 497 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see now just where the forty 498 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Niners go with these tough road back. That game Sunday 499 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: is gonna That's why I was actually interested that they 500 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: flex the Green Bay game because that that San Francisco 501 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Baltimore game is going to be fascinating to watch, because 502 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think it's going to be going 503 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: on at the same time as Packers Giants. It's it's 504 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: it's a new game, yeah, and it's if you look 505 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: at it, the way it breaks down is you basically 506 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: got two defenses. We'll talk about it later in the week, 507 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: but you've got two defenses are very similar, two offenses 508 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: that succeed in different ways. So we'll see where it goes. 509 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Football is fun, That's what I was saying. Football is. 510 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: It's a fun game. It's a fun game to cover, 511 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: and it is a fun time a year to follow 512 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: all of the stuff that's going on. But for now, 513 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: we're going to call it a wrap on this edition 514 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: of Packers on Script, and be sure to follow all 515 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team on Packers dot com 516 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and subscribe to us, Like us on iTunes and other 517 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: podcast services. Check out the Packers YouTube channel. All kinds 518 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: of great video content out there for you. Thank you 519 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody, We'll see you next time.