WEBVTT - Public Enemy Ft. Spider Loc 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.400 You're tuned into the Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:08.240 Right Jr. And Alex Amnzo on the Digital Soapbox Network 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.640 material witness on an aggregated battery. I was a hang 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.919 gun and they believe this might be in retaliation to 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.720 her testimony. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.640 Gangster Chronicles. Good morning, good afternoon, good night. Wherever you're 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.000 listening from. My name is Alex Alonso and I'm here 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.280 with my two brothers and Big j. But we also 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.480 got a special guest, Spider Loco. We got Spider Local 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.440 the house and um, I actually just interviewed Spider Look 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.320 a few months ago, so if you haven't checked that out, 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.320 go VISU Street TV. We did, uh. I cut the 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.839 interview into two parts or three parts. I think three parts, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.479 and the first part is the one you guys love 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.159 the most. But I loved all three parts. What do 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.400 you think appreciated? I mean, you know, I always enjoyed 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.160 telling my story and you know, having interest, so I 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:56.960 just enjoyed the process. I like the way you cut 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.400 it up. I tried to tell your story just a 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.200 little different from everybody else. Most of the time, you're 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.560 sitting in the chair telling the story, but I wanted 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.040 to go out into the navy. I appreciated you're going 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.399 to um all three of the sections to that you 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.080 know that was familiar with, and I cut part one, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.240 especially the show that we was on with ninety s 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.360 because for some reason somebody kept going online talking about 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.319 you never go to East Coast. It's no, the thing 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.480 is not. The thing is not don't. It was they can't. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.520 Oh yeah, that was an irritant Okay, I gotta remember 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:32.720 I was talking. I mean, it's not about no. I mean, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.600 it's just those two words have a very different connotation 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.000 in this right, is not about don't because you can 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.360 say that as much as you won't because I choose 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.360 not to. But when they can't comes up, that was 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.600 curious to me. Is that right? So I edited that 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.920 right when Homeboy was saying this, and I said, you know, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.520 I gotta cut the part where we are. You had 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.960 to appreciate that you had told me that you had 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.560 left it out just based on the way you had 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.760 it flowing, and then because you came across that, you 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.520 included because I know you know what would have happened 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.960 in the comments of that video if I didn't include, Yeah, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.040 he must be right, Alex just interviews part of Look 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.680 and they nowhere on in the East Coast. But I 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.840 have no I have no energy to try to like 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.760 defend that type my name against that type of claim. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.880 The little bit of temptation I did have died right 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.760 along with the late great neighborhood nil um. You know, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.640 I wish she was said about him when I wish 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.079 he would have not been in his hood. You know 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.000 what I'm saying that it's such a small crown to 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.480 even try to improve that I possessed. And then they 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.840 say that, you know, his life was taken by an 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.040 alleged rat. That's who sparked the rumor on me for sure. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.800 Rat And we'll talk let's talk about that in the show. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.720 But before we start the show, I want to do 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.960 a little bit of fact checking from last week. The 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.760 racial demographics of Compton. It is now six Latino as 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.920 of two thousand and eighteen, which is still significant because 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.799 that's real high because I remember when it was probably 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.000 like ten. Reggie, when you was a police officer, was 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:09.119 like probably Latino might have been thirty maybe a little 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.160 a little less. And also you mentioned an incident where 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.000 a CV seventy guy used to go at it with 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.280 the looters park. I do a little research. I believe 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.480 his name was Casper. We couldn't remember his name. You 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.560 think that's Casper. He was killed by the police eventually 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:30.480 by or the sheriff. So you know who killed him? Then? No? No, okay, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.840 But um, I do know that he was letting you know, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.080 the dudes from the looters and some of the miles 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.040 have it okay. And last week I accidentally misspoken said 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.560 Poo's brother was killed buying Acasia block, which makes no 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.720 sense because um who was from Acasia? It was a 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.480 CV seventy that killed his brother. Um. And we also 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.560 talked about a guy named g Ray. Let's just make 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.680 a distinction. There's there's a little g Ray and a 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.760 big g Ray, and it was big g Ray that 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.240 guy killed litl g Ray is still around. Also, Um, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.760 the area where occasion blocks that we couldn't remember what 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.720 CV seventy click that is, but I believe it's the 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:18.760 peeweeze And um chicos Tina, you also got the midget 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:23.560 to the monsters and the last correction, um I pronounced 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:29.320 the guy from Florida's name incorrectly, it's Ardudo Castellano, a 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.720 k a. Tablets or tablas. He's the guy in Pelican 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.320 Bay that pretty much runs F thirteen. And if you 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.560 remember last week, I was I had this visions of grandeur. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.200 Would you say of the East Coast Cripts and the 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.719 F thirteens figuring out this conflict is beef and getting 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.680 it right again? And who do we have as a 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.839 guest this week? So I don't know if he wants 0:04:51.839 --> 0:05:00.280 to talk about that, um today, but let's start off 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.680 with the Snoop dog dog pound video in New York. Um, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.040 somebody asked again, these questions are all from you guys 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.920 that listened to the show. We appreciate everyone that responds 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.680 to our posts and and contributes and asks and puts 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.200 these questions online for us. So one of these questions 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:22.120 was Snoop dog dog pound video in New York and 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.680 when they got shot at what really happened that day? Yeah? 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.719 I started started off the reason why this question come up? 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.719 And this is a topic of conversation because Snoop bitch asked, 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.440 always tried to make it. I don't like Snoop, but anyway, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:42.479 snoop um here. He always tried to make it seem 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.520 like pop was the reason that all the dramas and 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:50.680 stuff came to death Row, which he forgets that they 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.760 shot at his trailer and Pocket had only been out 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.000 of jail a month or two when this instance that happened. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.000 Um be. He got on the on the radio on 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.359 a Funk flax Master Flex or whatever his name is 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:10.200 radio funk Master Flex, and he got on the radio 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.400 and was like, hey, ye out here doing this video 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.920 called New York, New York having this big video shoot 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.240 out here, which in their mind they were paying how 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:23.440 mage to uh to New York, but the New York 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.799 people didn't take it that way. He got on the 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.320 radio was this and then saying, hey, how are you 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.320 how are we gonna be letting this go down out here? 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.280 Um wait? Who was paying homage to New York? The 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.960 soul New York New York Is were corrupt. But the 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:42.520 video that's the after fact, that's after the video shoot 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:43.960 got shut up and we had to come back and 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.240 film it out here in l A. That was done 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.560 in studio stuff, But all of that was done after 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.719 the mad So that wasn't the initial plan. For that 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:52.960 were supposed to have a big party and have all 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.760 the different rappers corrupt when all of them was gonna 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.720 go out there and the next day was gonna have 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:02.560 a bunch of red Rocks and something. You probably know 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:06.400 what red there's something spot in New York where that's happened. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.840 It's called red something where they were going and just happened. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.720 But they will have a big old like party or 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.000 a big old like atmosphere in there. But you know, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.120 Biggie took confence to it because you know, the beef 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.840 was starting up. But then he got on the radio 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.720 this thing um, and then you know they came in 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.960 there and did some pop shots at the video shooting 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.080 where they had a clear out and pack up the league. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.280 Because you know, it wasn't so much that the artist 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.320 was scared, but you know you have all those productions exactly. Yeah, 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.360 and those people, you know, you can't justify that. Yeah, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.160 you don't want that happens to those people in the artists. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.200 When we get all that shot, where was all the 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.280 all the hitters from uh, to be honest, that was 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.240 a snoop thing and so it was mainly his people 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.160 out there. Yeah, we were we were all back at home. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.360 I mean, some of my security was out there. They 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.440 credit Frank and some of my security for getting to 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.920 my little dolp, you know, getting to my little trailer 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.720 and all of that and looking out for him. But 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.120 what year was this when Paul got out ninety five, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.800 December of ninety five. It's either November December ninety five 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.800 when this happened. But but by my point to it 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.760 was that, you know Snoop always try to make it 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.080 seem like popboard, all the heat to death roll and 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.200 all of that, But it wasn't trailer that got shot up. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.040 It was dog pound of Snoops used to say he 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:33.079 made Snoop turn crip. Well you around when that supposed 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.360 to hap that turn crip? No, that probably would have 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.400 been before my time. Nine. I think you never heard 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.120 say he never told me that, hold on, hold on, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.040 I never stopped that, rich. I never heard him saying that, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.120 I haven't wait. You haven't never heard him say when 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.040 he met him, his name with super Snooper duper Okay, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.640 that was not a crip name. You don't remember that. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.079 So you heard the rest of the story. Rage, I 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.600 knew you had. Sure you should say that he used 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:00.640 to say. He put extensions in the snoopiger d and 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.720 budless and he said, shoo, this is shous words. Now 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.120 Shook said, look, man, he's from Long Beach. Ain't no 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:12.240 blood and so you can't be saying bigger Ris. Mama 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.560 told us over and over again to thank you. You 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.120 know we heard it to one's come on, man, well 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:25.040 I just know dog is a blood the blood putting, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:32.080 you know, that's what they say. But yeah, yeah, well 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.839 listen to you Snoop dog dog de dogs. I say 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.920 that was up dog. So no one actually got shot, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.600 You just got shot at. No one was how the 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.640 trailer just got shot where they were at? Okay, well, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:44.840 I don't know why that comes up all the time, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.240 this incident. Yeah, why because of the beef. That's what 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.280 a lot of people believe in. The beef between New 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.680 York and and the West Coast started the East Coast 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.920 and the West Coast started, but but it never started. No, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.199 I don't think the beef had anything. There was there 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.720 was no it wasn't there was no East Coast Park 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.040 always told you the corniest concept you you deal with 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.440 so much real beef that to entertain that as a 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.480 real beef. It has nothing that that was. So there 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.360 was no East coast West Coast be No, I agree 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.000 and said there was certain motherfucker's from you said. This 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.640 was December of Okay. Wasn't there a little bit of 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:27.760 conflict between Sugar and bad Boy in that was too. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.600 That's with two different crews that happened to be from 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.120 two different coasts. That was did not wage a coastal 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.080 ward and that was because Park was coming home and 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.360 Park did tell he had a problem with Bad Boys 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.320 record and all of that, and he wanted him to 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.920 ride with him because he was going to destroy them. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.000 But isn't that what the East Coast West Coast beef is? 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.280 It's really death Row bad Boy that's really what. Why 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.720 would you call the East coast West Coast b Yeah 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.640 it was, yeah, I mean that's what the I think 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.280 the media wanted to Some people started jumping and jumping there. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.600 The problem, the main problem that we have from an 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.120 industry standpoint, was with the pds. To be honest, they 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.680 would not play any West Coast music on the East coast. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.080 That's who we really have questions When Death Row would 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.920 go to New York, wouldn't have the New York catch 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.360 didn't like death Row. If death Row would have been 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.040 hanging out somewhere when you know the fight or jumped 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.920 on Puffy, New York would have would have jumped. We 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.000 used to kick it with Puffy and I just said, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.680 I'm not you wouldn't kicking with Puffy got on that 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.920 stage and ship. That's when it started, come to death Row. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.800 That's why Puffy was confused that they started and he 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.400 did that. Why because he knew we had just got 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.360 off the plane and he knew that he was just 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.440 about to sign Pop. But there's a whole lot of 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.280 homes would have got killed that night if they didn't 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.320 fix that, right, it never got fixed. That's when it started. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.000 No Snoop ship. He went and got that Puffy the 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.240 s I wasn't talking about you kids, didn't say that. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.200 That's what Puffy said, Okay, I was in a tone 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.280 of winner. How the conversation went. He adin't blame no Ship, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.800 don't know Jermaine dupri or anything like that. That's Puffy version. Okay, Okay, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.400 So this this shooting had nothing to do with Death 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.200 Row Bad Boy conflict, which was already in the earlier starting. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.319 No I staid, it's starting, But I'm just trying to 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.839 say Snoop always trying to put it at the feet 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.600 of Pop. When they didn't shoot a pox trailer, they 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.560 shot at dog Pound, Trade d E big C style, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.760 um dash corrupt and Snoop sitting inside of a trump. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:37.800 It wasn't no, no tupop, no should no bunchry ing 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:44.440 the shooting was it? That was there? Don't nobody know why? Yeah, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.920 be out on the radio. I think he said, the 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.960 niggas out here, this in US, with this on New York, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.040 New York, and they they out here? How how they 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.920 have the nerves to be out here filming this video 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.760 out here and they this in US? I don't so 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.640 big he called it. Some people would say, Hitchman, Jimmy 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.120 really made made it happen, and all of that. Who knows, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.960 Biggie got on the radio. I've talked about it, Biggie. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.800 It is true. When um, when I used to go 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.959 to New York because my mom lives out there, you 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.960 would never really hear West Coast music on the radio here. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.920 It wasn't. It wasn't just death row, but we out 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.439 here were bumping. They were bumping the pds the program 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.000 director to see a lot of people think back then 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.280 this jockeys the radio. This jockey didn't have the control 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.040 like they do now. You had to mix. The mix 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.560 shows had it. But that's it. But it was done 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.679 by the p D. The program director is the one 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.640 that decided what songs are gonna played at the different stations. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.160 It was really hard for for New York City to 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.600 embrace West Coast hip hop. I mean, eventually it did, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.400 but in number early nineties, jay Z said, we give 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.480 Jay's props and that's where it stops. And they didn't 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.560 do that because you remember that song really held him 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.680 accounting before that, Yeah, that was that was a boast. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.200 I remember Dj Quick jay Z said that it was 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.360 like in the Girls Girls Girls Age right around there, yea, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.800 when he was popping. I don't think he would say 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.840 that today though, Oh no, of course not. Yeah. And 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.360 you know what, the South had a hard time getting 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.960 their hip hop embraced by the East and the West 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.360 in the very beginning, and now there was a period 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.680 where the South was just running it. So I think 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.440 West always embraced the South. That's when the West kind 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.600 of fell off from together. You know, even when it 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.080 was eight Ball m j G. We always liked, but 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:39.200 they weren't getting radio PLAYO yeah, yeah, but you know who. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:40.840 And that's why the West Coast really kind of fell 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.720 off because guess who was the West coast biggest supporter 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.600 was the South, the South, the Southwest because they want 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.000 to ride and over. I think the South had love 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.920 for the East and the West because they're right there 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:56.320 in the middle and Gold and Jerry girls. That was 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.840 they've seen to have a general distinct from New York 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.120 nigger because they feel like the York niggas assumed them 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.200 to be done well. The North, Carolinas in the South, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.760 Carolina's got strong ties to New York. So you know 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.040 the South when we say the South again, like when 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.800 you say Carolina, Carolinas don't come to your mind first 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.760 when you said the South. If you live on the 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.560 East Coast and you said, if you live in New 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.640 York State and you say I'm going down South, the 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.600 first thing you think of the Carolina. We're talking about 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.080 hip hop and it's glory. It is being accepted. The 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.400 Carolina is just now getting notarized itself. For like Pete Pablo, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.680 like who else is from the Carolina? The music wasn't 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.080 not influx from the Carolinas. I mean most of the South, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.600 most of all that music came out of Georgia, right, Georgia. Yeah, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.800 but I'm sure the people in Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, they 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.560 was listening the fans. But I think that when I 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.520 think it's south to Alabama, Mississippi. Now, if you're from 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.920 California and you say the South, the first thing you 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.880 think of it is Texas and Louisiana. So and if 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.600 you're from Chicago and you say the South, you think 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.960 of Mississippi and Alabama, you're thinking outside of the round 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.920 hip hop. Because you think of hip hop, you say 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.880 South Atlanta. Nowadays, Well that's not well. Jermane there was 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.880 always doing what he was doing, but I don't even 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.320 think for him like the Jez the T. Well, when 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:17.880 we're talking about ninety, you're still going back. Yeah. Well, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.320 I guess I'm saying that because we were talking about 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:25.120 the beef that that started. Who was popping the night 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:30.680 was outcast Otkast, but they were mainly pop. I wouldn't 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.560 call them hip hop or route. But I mean, you 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.080 know my ship ice cream Man and your boy and 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.920 Master p was Oh yeah, that's when he took over 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:45.280 ninety seven from Louisiana, right, New Orleans juvenile, you know, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.040 back that ass up juvenile St Louis. No not he 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:54.080 was from New Orleans. Was Baby from St. Louis. Uh, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:59.480 my boy, Philip, No no, no, Nelly from St. Louis 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.960 is kind of orderline South. But yeah, I think all 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.439 these regions have a different history as different parts of 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.159 America embraced them, and then we forget about the I 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.040 mean my main one, the Girt Old Boys and yeah yeah, 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.800 Spider was talking about yeah yeah, but yeah, eventually New 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.080 York opened up and said, you know what this West 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.960 Coast music is. It's pretty damn good. You know, it's 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.040 pretty damn good. Yeah one, Spider and g Unit and 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.800 them and them when them took over, I think they 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:36.840 bowed down to Drake seemed like one. And that's ninety nine. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.200 ICEQ had like a New York lane though, well even 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:45.200 we went out there, the fielders out. I mean, that's 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.160 a classic America's most want American three k's. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.160 that was hard America KKK. Yeah. I like that kill 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.040 a Will that came right and it was hard to 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.280 man's hard yeah, holding that guy. Know what's the total 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:05.560 death tifty? Right? Yeah, the the gun. All right, so um, 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.879 let's move on to uh something that Tupac said. I 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.000 vaguely remember this. Apparently at some point on Tupac called 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:19.800 Dr Dre gay. He's saying gay like, you know, that's gay, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.520 Like that's not cool? Or was he calling him a homosexual? Dre? 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.680 Your sexualities? Who do you use this? Hellita? That's one 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.320 of the that's one of the times he references. That's 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.879 all I'm saying, Go ahead, James, James stories, Well, I 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:39.720 know where it comes from. All right, Well she'll she'll 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:46.960 get feeling. Uh. And this is a woman scoring because 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.560 mission Lay was so hurt that Dre was, you know, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.520 dealing with other chicks and was just using her as 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.080 a baby mama and not respecting her love or not 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.160 loving her like she wanted to be loved by Dre 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.600 and m and so she started always coming around saying, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.000 all these men is always living with us. I gotta 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.840 remember Bruce. You remember Bruce who we met in the 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.480 strip club. It was a mill exotic dancer. Was was 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:19.040 always with Dre, lives with Dre. Uh what's that boy name? Um, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.040 it's daddy. Uh, it's a it's a big song writer, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:28.800 um from from Motown. Anyway, one of them always lived. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.520 She was always say me and always had to live 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.439 with them at their house or whenever. Dre always had 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.119 men standing around there. So Mischel was really the one 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.399 to put out the rumor about Dre being gay, and 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.960 she grand with it. Okay, well yeah, but I think 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.639 it was because of a woman's corn. I've seen a 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.320 couple of Michelle interviews and it doesn't seem as if 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.240 her information is completely accurate. So I think I don't 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:59.040 know what level of credibility does Michell carry? None? None? Okay, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.879 Well I've been hearing she don't. Danny Boy didn't like her. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.120 I mean, none of those guys liked her. I mean 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.840 you know she she was slept with a few of 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.840 the guys around in the circle. Um, what kind of 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.560 credibility that she needs? She loves, don't let's sleeping with 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.600 them them? Then marry And should you know I got 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.000 a baby by this one. I'm over here with that 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.440 one I wouldn't call incredible. Okay, So for those who 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.480 don't know, Michel has a baby with and she also 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.200 has a baby which after dre and shook parted ways. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:36.640 Am I right about that? Yeah? Shout hey, No, well 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.399 I ain't talking about about I don't keeping she was decent. 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.000 I didn't have much interaction with her, but I did 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.560 have genuine interaction encounter. She's but just in general, when 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:51.840 a woman decides to date your partner, your ex partner 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.000 has a theory about that too. Let me say that 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.320 she said that was in the range situation that he 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.600 forced in order to save face of his company when 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.280 those rumors started going around. Have you heard that before? 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.000 Of course he has I'm not gonna make and everything 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:16.359 I heard of his hearing Dreche was always messed around. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.520 I'm just that's the real reason of the break up. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.840 That's what she would say. That's the real reason of 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.360 the break up was miche Andre married now but still 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.400 his biby mom and your business partner and was off 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:35.040 limits man to her. That's how she should have said, 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.199 I have a child by dre You should have been 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.840 looking at She wouldn't even you make money with him 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.080 coming to me like that. It should have went to Drake, 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.840 you know what I'm saying. She didn't do that. She 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:53.000 went to shoot. She accepted that from ship. You know 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.560 what I'm saying, And that's what she made her mistake at. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.280 So for all of these guys to call her holes 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.800 or whatever, I mean, I'm stepping back. I ain't gonna 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.560 call him one. She tried to tell y'all in her 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.080 little documentary how it went down, and it's kind of true. 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.359 I mean, she exaggerated a little bit, you know, about 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.760 the beatings and all of that stuff. But how do 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.560 you know what was going on in their house because 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.320 I would have seen her coming around and and and 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.159 beat up and all of that. I don't know. She 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.959