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Speaker 2: Welcome Wednesday, August tenth. Welcome to the Just Baseball Show.

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Speaker 2: It is the mail bag that's our laden. I'm Peter Rapple.

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Speaker 2: We have a bunch of phenomenal questions that were asked

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Speaker 2: two weeks. Make sure you get your questions in when

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Speaker 2: wet that normally on Tuesday. Arm. Before we get to

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Speaker 2: the questions, we have some news that's kind of unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: Definitely unfortunate for the bus in Red Sox. Not as

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Speaker 2: unfortunate for other teams who are going to go up

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Speaker 2: against them, but definitely for the entire league. It's not good.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sale now out for the season after falling off

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Speaker 2: his bike broke his wrist. What's your first reaction.

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Speaker 3: I guess this guy's cursed. It's it's crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I really feel for Chris Sale because you'd imagine he's

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Speaker 3: worked his butt off to get back from you know,

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Speaker 3: multiple injuries, and then of course on the mound, then

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Speaker 3: messes the finger up and you could see the defeat

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Speaker 3: when he broke his finger. He's just like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what to do, Like this is ridiculous. You could

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Speaker 3: just see how how defeated he felt, and then I

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Speaker 3: can't imagine how he felt after, you know, finding out

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Speaker 3: that he broke his wrist off the bike. I mean,

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Speaker 3: to just lose another year for a guy that you know,

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Speaker 3: was kind of on a Hall of Fame track if

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Speaker 3: he had last year and a good year this year,

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Speaker 3: and you figure out a few more years in the tank,

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Speaker 3: it definitely hurts in the Red Sox. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: we talked about how they been a disappointment. I know

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Speaker 3: you mentioned that in yesterday's episode, and we've talked about

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Speaker 3: that a bunch. If they had any chance to survive

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Speaker 3: this year, it was with it kind of hinged on

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Speaker 3: Chris Sale coming back at some point, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's kind of the final nail in the coffin. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty sad because he's fun to watch when he can pitch.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's fun to watch when he's out there,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately we won't see him until next year.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sale led the league in innings back in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: In his first year with Boston twenty eighteen, he throws

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty eight innings, puts up a two

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Speaker 2: to one to one ERA twenty nineteen, happens one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty seven innings. He's got a four to four

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Speaker 2: zero ERA twenty twenty one, who throws forty two innings

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Speaker 2: this year, He's only thrown a total of five and

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Speaker 2: two thirds no one start twelve years now in the league.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is the beginning of the end,

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Speaker 2: but we are looking at a guy who is already

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Speaker 2: getting up there in age, and I think to myself,

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Speaker 2: he's a seven time All Star. How many more Chrissale

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Speaker 2: years are we even going to have? And remember they

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Speaker 2: signed him to a pretty extensive extension. Extensive extension both

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Speaker 2: of those words. Yeah, and now it just looks kind

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Speaker 2: of bleak and the red Sox. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: the nail in the coffin, right. I think you said

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Speaker 2: that this is the nail in the coffin now because

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Speaker 2: starting pitching was the issue. I mean, the offense, it

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Speaker 2: goes through ups and downs. You still got debris, still

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Speaker 2: got Bogart's still got JD or whatever. Verdu Go I

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Speaker 2: guess can give you. But starting pitching in the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: and when you don't have Chrissale, you just the Orioles

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Speaker 2: are going to finish above them, and they're most likely

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Speaker 3: And also, yeah, in the Orioles look good. They just

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Speaker 3: had a nice win. That was a fun game to watch.

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Speaker 3: I loved the energy. They remind me so much of

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Speaker 3: the Mariners, by the way, just how fired up they

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Speaker 3: just getting pumped up with the youngsters. But to wrap

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Speaker 3: a bow on the Chrysaale thing, you know he's gonna

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Speaker 3: hope that, you know, he'll be able to come back healthy,

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Speaker 3: given that you know these injuries ribcage, finger, wrist, they're

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Speaker 3: not arm related, so the arm will be rested. But

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Speaker 3: he broke his wrist on a bike. I'm picturing something

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Speaker 3: I'm picturing something like that from Chris Sale where he

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Speaker 3: and Chrissale breaks a risk like that's crazy. Was he

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Speaker 2: Speaking of his former team, the Chicago White Sox, this

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Speaker 2: the real Pete Wheeler. He came out with something the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two White Sox have now injured every possible

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Speaker 2: anatomical region of the human body, and I quote. Some

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Speaker 2: may remember this post from three weeks ago, so check

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Speaker 2: that out on Reddit, in which it was established that

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two White Sox have been injured in

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Speaker 2: nearly every region of the human body over the past

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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five days, with the sole exception

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Speaker 2: of the left hand and wrist. With Tim Anderson now

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Speaker 2: having torn a ligament in his left hand, he's going

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Speaker 2: to be out six to eight weeks. Unfortunately for the

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Speaker 2: White Sox, they have now injured every possible anatomical region

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Speaker 2: of the human body over the last calendar year. Oh

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Speaker 2: my dear, Like.

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Speaker 3: Is that that can get like includes like eyeball, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't know? Me every Yeah, what does that include?

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Speaker 3: Regardless, that is insane. Maybe they're just saying, like the head,

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Speaker 3: like the whole handy, like concussion maybe is probably involved.

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Speaker 3: Concussion is the whole head? But dude, like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Is it bad luck, is it training staff? Is it both?

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Speaker 3: I mean they were telling that we we talked about

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Speaker 3: our trainers are telling our guys like not to bust

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Speaker 3: they don't need to run it out like just jog.

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Speaker 3: They were told not to sprint at one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: to prevent injury. And uh, obviously that still isn't really working.

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Speaker 3: I just some teams, Man, you wonder what they're doing

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Speaker 3: because most of these guys have their own routine. It's

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Speaker 3: not like a college weight program where you can attribute,

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Speaker 3: It is pretty wild just to see certain teams just

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Speaker 2: I think it has to be part training. If you remember,

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Speaker 2: the Yankees were dealing with injuries it seemed like every

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Speaker 2: then they revamp their entire training staff, brought in Matt

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Speaker 2: haven't been dealing with the same amount of injuries as

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Speaker 2: Of course, Stanton has been on the shelf, and there's

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Speaker 2: some injuries that you just can't control. I mean, sometimes

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Speaker 2: sixty two. But I think that team has to take

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Speaker 2: a good hard look at that, because when you read that,

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Speaker 2: there's no way that's just luck every part anatomically, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't even make sense reading that didn't make

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Speaker 2: sense when Elijah sent that. Also shout out you Elijah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're like, what's what's like this has to

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Speaker 3: just be a joke, Like, uh, but it's it's really

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Speaker 3: sad because though the White Sox could be a lot better,

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Speaker 3: I think obviously also has to do with just like

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Speaker 3: throwing guys in the outfield that probably have no business

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Speaker 3: being out there, like Eloyz and Andrew Vaughn that have

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Speaker 3: had multiple injuries of their own. Both guys should probably

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Speaker 2: Also another fun fact, Nico Horner higher f war this

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Speaker 3: Cubs should have traded him for for the same package.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy though. That does show you how much

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the defense will be better because he did

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Speaker 3: it was that Patrick Corbyn gives up ten runs and

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Speaker 2: It's just not worth it. He also made a really

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Speaker 2: think your point is so so right. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: I could dive out for that, or I'm about to

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Speaker 2: get traded or sign the biggest contract and it will

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Speaker 2: be history. How about I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just I'll just catch it on a hop

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Speaker 3: oh one out above average there, like, yeah, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it for an extra forty billion dollars a

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Speaker 2: year from now. Let's get into the questions arm because

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Speaker 2: we have a ton of good ones. This is a

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Speaker 2: great first one. What team do you think we'll have

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Speaker 2: the best starting rotation in three years? Asked by at Berner,

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Speaker 2: Underscore Phillips and just a reminder, if you want to

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Speaker 3: I have my.

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Speaker 2: Answer to this question, but it's kind of a cop out.

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Speaker 2: If do you want me to give mine or do

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Speaker 2: you want you want yours? First?

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Speaker 3: You give yours because if it's the one that I

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Speaker 3: think it is, I can color in on the prospect

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Speaker 3: side a little bit more because I think there's a

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Speaker 3: few guys that'll be up in a few years. But

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Speaker 3: then we can we can pivot to some other to

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Speaker 3: some other options as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be lame here. I think the best

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Speaker 2: what is it wrong? Juli Orius is twenty five, Bueller's

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Speaker 2: You know who else was Dynama Meanes look crazy again

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Speaker 3: But the timeline on Naylor, I think we can see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: They infuriate me, They really do, because I Cleveland is

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Speaker 3: But they could have made some small moves for you know,

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Speaker 2: Dansby Swanson. Yeah, that's that seems criminal because he deserves

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Speaker 2: Think you should be higher than Frankie Lindor plus sixty

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Speaker 3: How many players are ahead of him.

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Speaker 2: We have, I'll just go through him, Dansby Crone, Matt Olson,

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Speaker 2: Mookie Betts, Nolan Aeronado, Pete Alonso, Freddie Freeman, Austin Riley,

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Speaker 2: top of the odds, from you know, worst to best

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Speaker 2: in terms of like Paul Goldschman is minus one forty

433
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Speaker 2: compared to Austin Riley's second at plus six hundred. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, honestly, like I was, I was going into this

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Speaker 3: question kind of expecting to just being yeah, you know,

436
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Speaker 3: it's because the marlin stink, and you know he can

437
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Speaker 3: only do so much. She pitches every fifth day. I

438
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Speaker 3: think vern Ace to win the MVP, it's got to

439
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Speaker 3: be one of those where he's leading one of the

440
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Speaker 3: best teams in baseball and every fifth day is just

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Speaker 3: pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Racking number narrative at as much as want to protest player.

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Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean that we agree that it's narrative based,

444
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Speaker 3: but it just is what it is. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I do think he deserves more love, though, I really do,

446
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Speaker 3: because what he's doing this year from the standpoint of

447
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Speaker 3: like complete games, from the standpoint of just going out

448
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: there and eating innings for a team that you remove

449
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Speaker 3: Sandy al Contra from the Marlins. The Marlins, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many of the starts that he's

451
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Speaker 3: pitched that they've won, but they're even worse. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're probably one of the one of the bottom five

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Speaker 3: teams in baseball. If Sandy al Contra is not on

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Speaker 3: the Marlins. Uh, he's got to get more love than

455
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Speaker 3: he's getting. But at the end of the day, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: you've got to be putting up one of the more

457
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Speaker 3: ridiculous seasons we've ever seen. And while it started that way,

458
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Speaker 3: you got Justin Verlander in the al doing something quite

459
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Speaker 3: similar one seven to three e R one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty innings versus Sandy's one hundred and fifty eight. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got him beat in era and also

462
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Speaker 3: is doing it on a much better team. Justin Firlander

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Speaker 3: might win twenty games this year. I think if he

464
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Speaker 3: was the only guy with the sub two era you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe I could, I could say point towards that a

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Speaker 3: little bit more. But Ferlander's kind of matching a lot

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Speaker 3: of what Sandy's doing right now. For again, a team

468
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Speaker 3: that is that is much better. But I think just

469
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Speaker 3: being stashed on a sinking ship doesn't really help for

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Speaker 3: any pitchers.

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Speaker 2: MVP odds like, there's there's a very cool stat and

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Speaker 2: I'm just pulling up the definition because I don't want

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Speaker 2: to get it incorrect. I know what it means, but

474
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Speaker 2: I just i'd rather read you the definition so we

475
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Speaker 2: both know what we're talking about. Win probability added is

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Speaker 2: a sports Yeah, it's a statistic. Let me look up

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Speaker 2: the baseball definition because I'm looking at all. Yeah, WPA

478
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Speaker 2: or win probability added quantifies the percent change in a

479
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Speaker 2: team's chances of winning from one event to the other.

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Speaker 2: For instance, a homer in one game is worth more

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Speaker 2: than a home run in a blowout. YEP, Sandy al

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Speaker 2: Contra has a four point three to nine win probability added.

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Speaker 2: Max Freed is two at three four seven, third is

484
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Speaker 2: Verlander at three to one. Three, Corbyn Burns two eight seven,

485
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Speaker 2: McClanahan two to seven to eight, Martin perezeven two six seven,

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Speaker 2: which is larious.

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Speaker 3: It's very funny.

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Speaker 2: He is a full point better then second place Max Free.

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Speaker 2: That's how much he's meant to winning ballgames in crucial

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Speaker 2: situations for a team like the Marlins. Like when we're

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Speaker 2: looking at Justin Verlanders odds, he's also kind of lower,

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Speaker 2: like he's right now lower than Sander Bogart's Kyle Talker,

493
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Speaker 2: Tim Anderson, whose odds are going drop now that he's injured,

494
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Speaker 2: Jose l two Veave, Vladimir Guerrero Junior, Rafael Devers, Jose

495
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Speaker 2: A Ramirez, jord On Alvarez, Shoheo Tani, and then Aaron

496
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Speaker 2: Judge is the largest favorite at minus four fifty. If

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Speaker 2: Justin Verlander is not higher on this list, I know

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Speaker 2: with the win probability added stat like Sandy has been better,

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Speaker 2: and I think Sandy has been better over the full season.

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Speaker 2: Like we don't care about wins loss we care about

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing on the field, and Sandy has been

502
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Speaker 2: better on the field than Justin Verlander has. It's close,

503
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Speaker 2: of course, but to that point, it's not like Justin

504
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Speaker 2: Verlander is that high either. You have to be so

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Speaker 2: above and beyond everybody else to be considered the MVP

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Speaker 2: for pitchers. I mean, the only ones I can remember

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Speaker 2: really Kershawn Verlander in the past yeah decade plus.

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Speaker 3: So here one last question for you on this, and

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Speaker 3: it might be a silly one, but do you think

510
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Speaker 3: that the lack of strikeouts has anything to do with it?

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Speaker 3: Like do they want to see a three hundred strikeout?

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Speaker 3: Because Sandy's just not that, Like, that's not what he does.

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Speaker 3: That's why he goes deep into games. Like is the

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Speaker 3: fact that he's not racking up strikeouts at this insane level? Is?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that works against him at all? Too?

516
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Speaker 2: I do, because that also, you know, applies into his

517
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Speaker 2: FIP and his x FIP, you know, x CRA all

518
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Speaker 2: these different stats too. And also just look at.

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Speaker 3: We like counting stats still like that Zachter's like counting

520
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: stats like that's always going to matter. And if you say, oh,

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Speaker 3: he's got three hundred k's and he's doing this and

522
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Speaker 3: this and this, like it just adds to the narrative.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about that the other day. I was like,

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Speaker 3: that just might not be sexy enough for him.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. It's funny because Sandy throws ninety eight

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Speaker 2: with a disgusting breaking ball. You'd think that he'd have

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Speaker 2: more strikeouts than he does, but he just challenges you

528
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Speaker 2: in that. I don't think he's like, you can't keep me.

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Speaker 2: I think he could if he wanted to. I agree,

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Speaker 2: I think he'd rather you roll over on the first pitch.

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Speaker 2: That's not nine innings. That's on his job. He's got

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Speaker 2: he's got the ghost of Zach Pop behind him. Yeah,

533
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Speaker 2: like he's got the ghost of Zach Pop. But he's

534
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Speaker 2: got to go eight.

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Speaker 3: He's got he's literally got to go to the distance.

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Speaker 2: This question is impossible.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite questions we've had in a

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Speaker 3: long time.

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00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I think whose trio is better when healthy? The Dodgers

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Speaker 2: with Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman and Trey Turner or the

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Speaker 2: Padres with Fernando Tatis Junior, Manny Machado and Juan Soto.

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Speaker 2: This was asked by Joshua de Landis on Twitter. What

543
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: a fucking question.

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Speaker 3: I love it favorite.

545
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: There is no wrong answer here. And I did a

546
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Speaker 2: little bit more digging just into the numbers to kind

547
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Speaker 2: of see where it stacks up. But this, I mean

548
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Speaker 2: throw the numbers out the window, especially because a guy

549
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Speaker 2: like Fernando Tatis Junior hasn't been healthy all year, we're

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Speaker 2: going to assume that he's fully healthy. Yes, Like, who

551
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: do you want? Those three Dodgers are in the top

552
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Speaker 2: fifteen and f four, Like that's the reality of the situation.

553
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman is fourth in baseball at least on offense,

554
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Speaker 2: Like he's above Manny Machado. That's where these guys are.

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00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: I would but okay, this is really hard because by

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Speaker 2: the numbers, you would probably say the Dodgers and they're

557
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: already all healthy. You know, Trey Turner Fernando Tatis Junior.

558
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: Is Tatis Junior more talented? Yes, has Trey Turner performed

559
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Speaker 2: almost as good as him? Also? Yes, you look at

560
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: third base, first base, it's tougher third base, more premium position.

561
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: But Freddie has been the better offensive player than Manny

562
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Speaker 2: Machado has this year. And if you're looking at previous years,

563
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: probably still Freddie. Then you got the Mookie Bets Versusuan

564
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Speaker 2: Soda debate. Ah, what I don't know. I would say

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00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets is a better all around player thought, but

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto is probably a better hit Or what do

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Speaker 2: you value and you know what are them? I think

568
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Bookie Betts. Yeah, I don't love it, though, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy because like, so Mookie took

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Speaker 3: that that you had that rough year last year, right,

571
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Speaker 3: but obviously he's all the way back this year and

572
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Speaker 3: in the ways that he impacts the game. Like, I

573
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: know that sodo Is is one of the best hitters

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: you know, we've we've seen, but Mooki's so consistent now,

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Speaker 3: I mean really, aside from I think what was a

576
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: lost year last year for our injuries, our gies, whatever

577
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: the hell was twenty five bombs, He's still in eight bags.

578
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: He's probably the best right fielder in baseball, could be

579
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: the best center fielder if you want. They wanted to

580
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: put him there, play second base, even if you fucking

581
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: need him to one forty six WRC plus. Like, I

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Speaker 3: love what he brings to the game. He's such a

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Speaker 3: value on the base paths as well, even if he's

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Speaker 3: not just stealing bags. The thing is is when Tatis

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Speaker 3: is healthy, he's got best player in baseball upside ye,

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Speaker 3: So like that's I think you can go Mookie as

587
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Speaker 3: an all round player for your team more than Sodo

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00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: I think Tats East and Turner.

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00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Probably take Tatis.

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Speaker 3: Take Tatis, even though Turner you look at f war

591
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Speaker 3: and things like he's.

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Speaker 2: Probably second best shortstop in baseball. I've no Tatis.

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Speaker 3: Machado versus Freeman. You know what Freeman has done offensively

594
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Speaker 3: this year, but Machado is also a fantastic defender at

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Speaker 3: the hot corner. So it's like, I think, with what

596
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: Freeman is doing right now, which is basically being the best,

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Speaker 3: like the best version of Freddie Freeman we've ever really seen,

598
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Speaker 3: which is crazy because Freddy Freeman has already been insane.

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Speaker 3: You could maybe point towards the MVP season in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty I don't really count that. So you look at

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, this has been his best season ever

602
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Speaker 3: and a lot of metrics. I think you gotta go

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Speaker 3: with the Dodgers guys. I think you go with the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers guys. The dynamic aspect of Mooki and Turner, plus

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Speaker 3: what is one of the best hitters in the game too,

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Speaker 3: and Freddie Freeman. I think I think I go Dodgers guys.

607
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: But Man, Tetus and Soda. We're passing on Tatus and Sodo.

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00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: I know what the fuck? That doesn't even make sense,

609
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: But also like, what what position is he's playing? Like

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing, you know, we're hearing reports of like maybe

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Speaker 3: the field long term that would change things. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with with the certainty. I'm going with the Dodgers trio.

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Speaker 3: But don't get mad at me, because I legitimately think

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Speaker 3: it's the most impossible question to answer in the history

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Speaker 3: of the world.

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Speaker 2: Let's heat it up a little bit. Who's a better

617
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Speaker 2: player in baseball? The Mookie bets not named cho Tony

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00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Dustin and I were having this conversation.

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Speaker 5: And he asked me this Dustin Dustin, that's always like

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Speaker 5: Mookie bets on It's like and I thought to myself, well,

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Speaker 5: Trout went healthy.

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Speaker 2: But then he responds, well, you can't say Trout right now.

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Speaker 3: Trouting okay, obviously, but you can't say that right now.

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Speaker 2: And then I went quiet.

625
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Speaker 3: Because I Jram Jay Rams got a case better than

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Speaker 3: Mookie Jay Rams nuts man.

627
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Mookies. Beyond what he brings on the field to the clubhouse,

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00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: I can't readership, the championship mentality. Nothing you're gonna see

629
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Speaker 2: on the statue. But then everything on the statue is Red.

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: I think Mookie Bets is the best player in baseball

631
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Speaker 2: not named Shoheo.

632
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: Tony Jay Rams got he's got him beat in f war,

633
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Speaker 3: but he's also played thirteen more games if Boots, If

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Speaker 3: Bets boots, if Bats played thirteen more games, he would

635
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Speaker 3: have surpassed him in the f word department. Switch hitter

636
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: steals more bags, doesn't hit as many home runs. Like, yeah,

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00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: I think when Mookie is at his peak, he you

638
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: could make the case like your argument is sound here, right,

639
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with with what you're trying to say.

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 3: I hear. I think Devers is scarily like getting in

641
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: that department too, when is.

642
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: Not the defender these guys are. Because also Jay ram

643
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Speaker 2: is such a great defender. Mookie's one of the best

644
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: defensive outfielders that we've seen in our lifetime.

645
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think with with what Mookie's kind

646
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: of bounced back and showed this year, it's funny because

647
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: that's a guy whose cards, Like I was thinking about it,

648
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: if I luck into some more money, what would be

649
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: like a big splash that I would make. I think

650
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: Mookie would be the big splash because his cards still

651
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: don't go for the same of like a Mike Drout,

652
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: and I think he could be there, you know, in

653
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: a few years. Again, I think people forget how young

654
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: Mookie Betts is too. He's still just twenty nine years old.

655
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 3: It feels like he's been around forever. He's still got

656
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: a lot more years of putting up really good seasons.

657
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts is the Derek Cheater of our generation, but

658
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: he's better.

659
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: In what way? Is he the Derek Cheter?

660
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: I think the universally loved player this style I'd be in. Yeah,

661
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: been in the been in the limelight now. I guess

662
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: you're right because Jeter played twenty years with the same team,

663
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: so not in that kind of sense. But I don't

664
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: think that we have like a Dar has a negative

665
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 2: No one has a negative thing to say about Jeter.

666
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean you could be like, oh, defensive runs, say

667
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: Beta Walls, shut up. Derek Jeter is one of the

668
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: better shortstops ever. Wherever you want to rank him, I

669
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: don't really care. Universally loved type player like that, the

670
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: smile championships, always in the limelight, phenomenal player, That's what

671
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: I view Muki as. I mean, he's already a two

672
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: time champion. He's probably gonna win more in his in

673
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: his career. I mean, Jeter's at what five championships. I

674
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: could see Mooki having five championships, being a first ballot

675
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, maybe approaching three thousand hits, Like that's

676
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: what I look at as a Mookie Bets. But Mookie

677
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 2: Betts did everything offensively that Jeiter could do. And he's

678
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 2: one of the best defenders we've ever seen.

679
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean he's he's gonna have It's gonna

680
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: hit probably four hundred homers, he has a chance to

681
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: probably closer to three fifty. It's gonna steal probably over

682
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 3: two hundred banks. Yeah, he's gonna have one of those

683
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: careers where he checks every single box. It's pretty freaking awesome.

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: Pretty freakin' awesome. All Right, we just got heated, or

685
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: we didn't even get heated. That was a phenomenal just

686
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: kind of just hurt thought process.

687
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, my brain, I don't know who's better than

688
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: Moviie when he's.

689
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Right number five. Who is a team that is hurt

690
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: right now that when healthy can make a little bit

691
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: of noise for the rest of the year. Asked by

692
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: at Little DJ two two seven on Twitter. This is

693
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: an interesting one.

694
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think different answers for this one too.

695
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: I think we will have different answers for this one.

696
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: And I've been saying this same team now for a while,

697
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: and I don't really want to move off of them

698
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: because I still think when Wander Franco comes back, right

699
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: that the Rays, when they get fully healthy, are going

700
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: to make some noise here. I don't think they've been

701
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 2: fully healthy basically all year. They just got Brandon low back,

702
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: you know, when some of the pitchers come back to

703
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, Springs has been heard, I know he's been back,

704
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: but just overall as a team, as a unit, getting

705
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: fully healthy, I do think that they're going to make

706
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: some noise as we move into September and October. Who

707
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: was another team that came to your mind that could

708
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: make some noise when healthy?

709
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, actually, well, first I want to talk about that

710
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: because I think it's really forgotten, like I'm guilty of

711
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: it too overlooked. How banged up the Rays have been

712
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: beyond just like I mean, Brandon Lawleace, this guy had

713
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: forty homers last year, Like, this guy was one of

714
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: the best second basement in the game, and Also it

715
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: was one of the more productive hitters. Wander Frontco was

716
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: playing at one of the highest levels we've seen of

717
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: a short stop in the game. And that is a

718
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 3: huge loss. You talk about like Shane Boz being out

719
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: of the equation here, the relievers that they've had banged up. Yeah,

720
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: if this team is healthy, they are still the freaking Rays, right,

721
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: They still basically have all of the pieces they had.

722
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: That is a team that's been way more banged up

723
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: than I think people really would give them credit for,

724
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: even Kevin Kiermeyer, Like they get Jose Siri, but like

725
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: they've had to piece it together in the outfield without

726
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: some of their typical guys as well. Funny enough, the

727
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: Phillies have been playing great baseball. Obviously, They're nine to

728
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: one in their last ten and that's without Bryce Harper.

729
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: That's about the MVP. Now they're finally getting a little

730
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: bit more out of some of their other guys. Jeans

731
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Segura just now coming back. I mean, that's one of

732
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: the guys that I think is one of the more

733
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: overlooked consistent hitters in baseball. I mean, he's a career

734
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: just almost every single year's gonna give you above average

735
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: offense and just not strike out and put the ball

736
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: in play and give you three to four f wour.

737
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: I think he had one six f wour season. That's

738
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna help them big time versus what

739
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: they were getting before. And then if they get Bryce

740
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: Harper back and healthy, they're gonna make some noise because

741
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: I like what we're seeing from Hoskins now. He has

742
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: taking his game to the next level. Warber's got thirty

743
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: four pumps. Rio Muto has been playing much more like JT.

744
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: Real Muto of late, and I mean, you look at

745
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: at what they're getting that from Castiano's he's finally looking

746
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: like he's a hitter again. You had an MVP to

747
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: that team. They're in business. I can't believe what the

748
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: Phillies are doing right now.

749
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: Let's switch over to another question because it's kind of

750
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: similar but asked by a different person, and I had

751
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 2: to put him back to back. What playoff contending team

752
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: is the most fragile one injury to a key player

753
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: really hurts their chances of competing. And when I thought

754
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: about this question, starting pitching wins championships and who is

755
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher lost away from really not being that

756
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: relevant in a playoff race. And I came to two teams.

757
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: I got to Toronto Blue Jays correct and the Minnesota Twins.

758
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I got I got my second one. That's different, perfect,

759
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: but you might not even consider them content.

760
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: That could be true with the Minnesota Twins, they are

761
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Tyler Mallley, It's Sonny Gray, you know,

762
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: it's Chris Archer, it's Dylan Bundy. Am I forgetting anyone

763
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: off the top of my head?

764
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: Joe Ryan, Joe.

765
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Ryan, That's not a trio I would say with Ryan

766
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: bun or Ryan Gray and Mally, if one of them

767
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: is to go down, they ain't doing nothing. I don't

768
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: really think that they're going to do a crazy amount

769
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: with them. But at least that gives you a trio

770
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: where you have a chance to win against anybody, because

771
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: those three, if they give you good starts and with

772
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: the offense, like you have a chance to win the

773
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays, if Manoa or Gosman goes down, the

774
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: offense will not be able to hit enough. With Kakuci

775
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: being so inconsistent with Brio, it's being so inconsistent, that's

776
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: the clear one we probably both had. Who is the

777
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: other team that you wanted to throw in there?

778
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: The Jays are toast. If Alec Manoa goes down, they're

779
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: absolute toast. I was looking to the Milwaukee Brewers, and

780
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: I know they're fading quickly, but if Corbin Burns gets.

781
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: Hurt, yeah, it's over. They're toast.

782
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: Man. I know, I like some of their other arms,

783
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but they need a cy young

784
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: caliber starter at the top of their rotation for them

785
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: to be successful. That's what they're built on. And now

786
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: that they traded Josh Hader away, now that we're seeing

787
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: them scuffle a little bit, I imagine the Brewers without Corbyn Burns.

788
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I'd basically write them off. I wouldn't even pay attention

789
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: to them that much anymore.

790
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: I agree, is there any other team?

791
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: Like?

792
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: Offensively? When I was thinking offense, like you know, I mean,

793
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: you say to yourself, the Phillies lost Bryce Harper and

794
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: they're not In the past ten years, I would.

795
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: Have said the Phillies. I would have said the Phillies

796
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: losing Bryce Harper. So I would have been wrong, Like

797
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I would have said that and been wrong. Clearly.

798
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like you have to evaluate the

799
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: starting pitching because when you lose offensive player. I mean,

800
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: if the Yankees lost Aaron Judge, certainly wouldn't be good.

801
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: But I do still think that overall the team would

802
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: still make the playoffs and they'd still be fine, that

803
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: they'd be able to piece it together. They still have

804
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of other offensive weapons. That's why I looked

805
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: at starting pitching. But is there any team because you know,

806
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: the Astros lose Erlander and they're gonna get mcculler's junior back,

807
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: and then they still have a slow of guys. They'll

808
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: be fine. The Dodgers, doesn't even matter that they lost Walkerson.

809
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: They're the best team in baseball. The Padres, if they

810
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: were to lose Muscrove, they still have enough starting pitching

811
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: to be okay. The Cardinals, if they were to lose Wainwright,

812
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: that would really be tough. But now that they have

813
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Jaymon and Quintana and Michaels has been almost better than

814
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: Waynwright has there, they didn't fall into that bucket for me.

815
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: They have enough even Matts too. They have enough depth

816
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: there even Polanti and when Flaerty comes back. So those

817
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: were really the three teams. I'm glad you threw the Berson.

818
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: The reason I did throw the bs is I'm like,

819
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: I think then might make the playoffs now instead of

820
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: the Brewers.

821
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like so embarrassing. One position player,

822
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: I guess could be Jay Rod to the Mariners, who

823
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: I know he's missed some time, but let's say he

824
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: missed a prolonged amount of time. That's their most dynamic player,

825
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: right Like, and it's not really necessarily close France. Ty

826
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: France is the go, but that's their first baseman, right

827
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: So it's like a Suarez and ty France have been

828
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: the other two, you know, best hitters. Uh, it's a

829
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: bit of a falloff from there. If they lost Jay

830
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: Rod for the rest of the season, I think they'd

831
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: be in big trouble because of what he does for

832
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: them in center. He stole twenty one bags, he said,

833
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: eighteen homers sitting for average. Now, Like, that's a guy

834
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: that I think if he missed a prolonged amount of time,

835
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: they'd be in trouble. But I think with the guys

836
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: we mentioned, the teams we mentioned, that's those are the favorites.

837
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: Jay Rod is just ron A Cooney Junior two point zero.

838
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: Yep, he's playing better than him now right bigger?

839
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, might be better, maybe not. We're gonna talk about the

840
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: braves in a little bit. This is a great one

841
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: before we get into our last question where we're kind

842
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: of talking top fives, but it's centered around the braves.

843
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: But it's going to open up a great conversation. But

844
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: before we get to that number seven, if you could

845
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: have any player dead or alive on your podcast for

846
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: a full hour and they had to tell the truth,

847
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: who would it be and why? The way I thought

848
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: about this question is had to tell the truth?

849
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an important cave this not even caveat

850
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: like detail.

851
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: Not just who's the greatest play Like I'd love to

852
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: have Babe Ruth, I'd love to have Jackie Robinson, I

853
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: love to have Willie Mays, I'd love to have Statchel Page.

854
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: Like of course, I'd love to have all these guys.

855
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: But you know the player that I gave to who

856
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: I want Pete Rose to tell the truth? Oh God.

857
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: About gambling?

858
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: Just about everything that happened. Yeah, I mean you could

859
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: say gambling, you can say a lot of things. I

860
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 2: just want to hear the truth.

861
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: And like, are we allowed to just be very mean

862
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: to them the whole time?

863
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: You know what, it's our podcast. I think we're gonna

864
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: interpret the question over we want, like we get the

865
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: truth out. I would want to talk to Pete Rose.

866
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Who would you want to talk to? So I have two.

867
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 3: I want to talk to shoeless Joe Jackson great one

868
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: and ask why the helly threw a World series? Like,

869
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: I know they've talked about it a little bit, but

870
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: I would love to just like to just really unpack

871
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Yeah, and really hear the whole thing.

872
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: I'd love to know if Pete Rose actually bet, you know,

873
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: for or against. I know they've they've done all those

874
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: investigations and that's one two, But I would love to

875
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: really just know all of the details of that scandal

876
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: and really just get into his head there because I

877
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 3: know she was Joe was one of the guys who

878
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: his numbers were great in the World series. Other guys

879
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: threw it more specifically, so why were shoeless Jose? Now

880
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: he hit three seventy five in the World Series, but

881
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: was part of the scandal, So like, I just want

882
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: to hear more about that than a much lamber.

883
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Before you give it, just a little bit of context

884
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: about that. That was the nineteen to nineteen Black Sox

885
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: scan Baseball scandal. For any of our younger viewers who

886
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: may not be aware of who Shoeless Joe Jackson is,

887
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: the Black Sox scandal is the name given to the

888
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: conspiracy conspiracy to fix the nineteen nineteen World Series played

889
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: between the White Sox and the Reds, and a number

890
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: of players on those White Sox teams conspired with gamblers

891
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: to throw or intentionally lose games, in which what is

892
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: now known is most likely the biggest scandal in baseball

893
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: history outside of like the steroids and even the sticky stuff.

894
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: I think throwing the World Series is like the basement

895
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: of sport. Like that's the worst thing anyone's ever Like

896
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: that just ruins everything if that happened again, like I would,

897
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the disdain have for those players

898
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: right like.

899
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: To into this. It's not just oh, we'd love to

900
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: have like Jackie Robinson, out of course we would, but.

901
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: Like, who do we've real? I want to know, Like

902
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: it's more like we're dinosaurs real, like the things that

903
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: obviously they were real but like, what did they look like?

904
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: How'd they die? That's what that was, Like, how did

905
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: dinosaurs die? Like? Those are the questions I have. None

906
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: of these baseball players can answer that. But on on

907
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: a more current side of things, I would love to

908
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: just talk to Alex Rodriguez about why the hell he

909
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: took steroids, because I was talking about this the other day.

910
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: He was so fucking good. He could have been the

911
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: best we should be talking about. Alex Rodriguez, one of

912
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: the five best players ever ever played the game, and

913
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: arguably the best shortstop ever. He was He did everything

914
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: he could run, get it for average, get it for power,

915
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: but this guy was unbelievable, and he basically just couldn't

916
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: help but continue to inject roid's into his arm. I

917
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: would just love to know why he felt he like

918
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: he had such a dependency on it, because like, what

919
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: did he need that edge for? He was already so

920
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: damn good. I know, for Barry Bonds, it was like

921
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: the pursuit of the home run title, and that's why

922
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: he did it. More down the stretch, Why did a

923
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: rod do it from like the jump? You talk about biogenesis,

924
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: I would love to know all of the details of

925
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: how that happened, how young he started doing it, why

926
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: he did it, because we've never gotten the truth from

927
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: a Rod on all of that, and he still would

928
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: have been one of the greatest to ever play, I

929
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: think if he never juiced. But Scheuis Joe takes the cake,

930
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: no doubt.

931
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: There's also one where it's not really in the scandal type.

932
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: I would just love to hear about the Negro League,

933
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: So if I could talk to Pop Lloyd or a

934
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: guy like Satchel Page, just to that's more not in

935
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: the television truth legend, but to be able to hear

936
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: from Josh Gibson or any of those type of guys

937
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: like what was going on there, because more than likely

938
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: those guys were so far more talented than anything that

939
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: we saw during that time period in Major League baseball.

940
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: There was a handful of guys that probably would have

941
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: been some of the best players on in Major League baseball,

942
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: you know, and like that. That's the frustrating part. And

943
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: I would love to just ask Satul Page how old

944
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: he actually was, because no one knows. Legit, like pitched

945
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: at Miami Stadium, Miami Marlins Stadium. It was like a

946
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: minor league team at the time, like fifty years old

947
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: in front of a sold out crowd. It's one of

948
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 3: the coolest things ever. In the nineteen fifties, no one

949
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: knew how old he actually was. Some think that he

950
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: might have been sixty when he was pitching on that mound,

951
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: like and all he did was put tiger bomb on

952
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: his arm. So like, that's a guy I would love

953
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: to ask questions too. Also, I've thought about that from

954
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: like a historical lens, Like one of the things I

955
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: would love to know is how the dinosaurs went extinct.

956
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: But on the baseball side, I would want to solve

957
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: use this opportunity to solve some of baseball's biggest mysteries.

958
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: And I think Satchel Page's age is one of them.

959
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: And she was Joe and just all of the details

960
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: of the Black Sox scandal is another one.

961
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Shout out Kyle Taylor Portraits on ig Show Hayes right

962
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: behind me. He made that one phenomenal question, transitioning from

963
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: some of the greatest players in past history to some

964
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: of the best players in current times. The last question,

965
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: do the Braves have a top five infield or at

966
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: each position? If so, where would you rank that player

967
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: at their position. Lastly, where is Max Freed ranked among starters?

968
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: And that was asked by Jake Franklin on Twitter. This

969
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: is an interesting one. Arm and I kind of have

970
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: a hot take, but I don't really know how hot

971
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: of a take is it. I just I think it

972
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: might just be the answer here. Okay, I think they

973
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: have one. Ooh, okay, see you can make the argument

974
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: for two on the corners. I think Austin Riley is

975
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: a top five third baseman. Yes, when you have Jay

976
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Ram is just off the top of my head, you

977
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: know what. Let me be a little bit better at this.

978
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: I have the I have a list of third basement

979
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: in front of me. Let me let me tell you.

980
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: I think third base. Aeronato's got to be in there.

981
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: Jose Rimere has got to be in there. Manny Machado's

982
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: got to be in there. Devers has got to be

983
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: in there. In Austin Riley's got to be in that's

984
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: your clean five. Yep, definitely he's in the top five.

985
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to rank him.

986
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: I have five two and I don't know because he's

987
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: if he's if he continues on this on this track

988
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: that he's on right now. Uh, he might surpass him, guys,

989
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: but yeah, he's definitely in the top five.

990
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: So danceby Swanson is number one and f four. But like,

991
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna have Tautus in my top five. I'm

992
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 2: not kicking Tatis out because he's been injured this year.

993
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm still taking Trey Turner. Yeah, I think I'm still

994
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: gonna put Korea in my top five. Like, are we

995
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: kick him out?

996
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Okay, let's let's frame it like this. Yes,

997
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: you can have it. You can sign one player to

998
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: a ten year deal for free. Who are you signing,

999
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 3: Carlos Korea or Dance by Swanson? Carlos Kraa correct. So

1000
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: that then there's your answer.

1001
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Trey Turner, like I said, I'd no,

1002
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: probably rather have Francisco Lindoor.

1003
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: Yep.

1004
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Corey Seeger? Yeah, I mean I would. Yeah,

1005
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: I mean Cory Seger's got a three to five ward

1006
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: it's not that far off. He's got twenty four home

1007
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: runs and also he's hitting two fifty.

1008
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: This is a contract year for Swanson. He's been phenomenal.

1009
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, Seagar's got a one twenty four WRC plus

1010
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: compared to Dan's we had a one twenty five.

1011
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Seegar's doing it in the worst lineup I

1012
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: would I would say you could boot Swanson though he's

1013
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 3: right on right on the you know, right on the fringes. Here.

1014
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Olson's got to be a top five first baseman even

1015
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 3: with a down year this year though, right.

1016
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: Probably so Here here's what I was looking at for

1017
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: first base. I mean Freddie, Paul gold Schmidt, Pete Alonzo,

1018
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: Vladimir Grove Junior. Those are the four. Do you count?

1019
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: Whatisur Rise? Is he better than matt Olsen? Maybe not

1020
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: this year?

1021
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still I still I'm still regarding Matt Olson

1022
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: as a top five, Yes, first baseman, right, so, probably should.

1023
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: But like he's been down, Like what about Seth Brown.

1024
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 3: Looking at him like not far off in f war. Yeah,

1025
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: I think that's even like what Josh Bell has done

1026
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 3: this year. But you're still I think you still got

1027
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: to regard Matt Olsen as a top five, so I

1028
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 3: would say. And then second base, Dude, I'm not considering

1029
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: a alb I know he's hurt, but even healthy, I'm

1030
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: not considering Azi Alby. He's a top five second I'm

1031
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: I've always been lower on Albi's. I think we all have.

1032
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: And now with what Andre Seimenez is doing, I presume

1033
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: he's made a majority of his starts where at second

1034
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 3: this year he has, Jimenez has got to be ahead

1035
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: of Albi's, maybe at least very soon, if not already.

1036
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: Neil's been much better.

1037
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: Edmund McNeil too vague.

1038
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: Gavin Lux is fucking awesome.

1039
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: If Jazz Chisholm was healthy, I think i'd take him

1040
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: over Ozzy Alby's.

1041
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: You could say Semion, Yeah, I'll say John Birdie one

1042
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 6: four and fifty eight games.

1043
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: By the way, here's.

1044
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: An interesting one. Would you rather have glaber or Ozzy

1045
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: Alby's glaber labor? The thing is with Ozzy Alby's is

1046
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: it's the extra base hits, right, it's the home runs,

1047
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: it's the doubles and the speed, and they're sexy counting numbers.

1048
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: But when we look at a bigger sample and he

1049
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: is a really good defender, like we're we kind of

1050
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: just threw a lot of guys, and I bet Braves

1051
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: fans are listening to being like, he's not better, he's

1052
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: not better, He's not better than all you guys named

1053
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: like Jeff McNeil is not better. He hasn't performed, But

1054
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: it's like Jeff McNeil's performed better than here, and it's like, yeah,

1055
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: he's did in three or four and he's just been

1056
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: such a good defender over there at second he's so

1057
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: much more versatile too. Ozzi Abby shouldn't be a switch hitter.

1058
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: So if you if you give me the switch hitter argument,

1059
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: I think he shouldn't be. No, that doesn't hit from

1060
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: one side. So Ozzi Alby's is in that conversation.

1061
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 3: In the last year, he was ninth and four last year.

1062
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: That's all we have to say.

1063
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: He hit thirty pumps like he won twenty twenty. Sure,

1064
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: but he's still only finished with a three to ten

1065
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: on base percentage. You know, like I would still take

1066
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: several guys over him. I'm sorry, So, but that all

1067
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Speaker 3: that to say, Like it's the Braves have as much

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00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: depth as anybody. They're great at every they're above average

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: at basically every position. Dansby, you could make the case

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Speaker 3: at the end of the year that he's a top

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Speaker 3: five guy. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be upset with anybody

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Speaker 3: saying that after what Dansby did this year. He's a

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00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: top five shortstop. I think he needs do more than

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Speaker 3: do it in one contract year to surpass most of

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00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: the other shortstops that are so proven. But at the

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00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: same time, I mean, like they're they're loaded at every spot,

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Speaker 3: and I'll take Olson and I'll take Riley as top

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00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: five guys.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think I was looking at

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00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: the top five, you know, even a bray you in

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00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: terms of f wour is ahead, he's number three, But

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Speaker 2: I would still take Mattallson. I would take Matt Olson

1083
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: over Ty Frantz. Luise a Rise is interesting because, I mean,

1084
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: the guy has the least amount of strikeouts in baseball.

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00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Kushwaber has more home runs than Luis Rise has strikeouts.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the real stat Yeah, I mean crazy.

1087
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: Luis a Rise has just been the best contact hitter

1088
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: we've seen in our league in a very long time.

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Speaker 2: So that's the reason I want to put him. But

1090
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: he doesn't play a lot of his games at first base.

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Speaker 2: I mean he does, but not, you know, every single game.

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Speaker 2: He's not a first baseman first baseman, so you'd put

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Speaker 2: Matt Olsen there like he's earned it. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to take him off. You're right on that.

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Speaker 2: The next part of the question is the Max Freed debate.

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00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: And when we were talking about win probability added Max

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00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Freed was number two. That means something. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's just a discussion of is he top five not

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Speaker 2: is he top ten? Really, and we're talking about left

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 2: handed starters. It's Shane McClanahan then.

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Speaker 3: Then Freed probably, I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 2: When all comes down to it, Kershaw is still that

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Speaker 2: fucking dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at this point right, it's I think

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00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: he's a top ten arm mm hmm. Is that is

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Speaker 3: that where you'd peg him top ten?

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00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: So I Thinkleanahan's better. I think Sandy's better. Yep, I

1108
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: think Burns is better. I think Verlander is better. I

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00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: think Wheeler is better. Is Garrett Cole better? I'm fine

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: saying fuck no, I don't care. I don't think so

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Speaker 2: at this juncture.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

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00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't even care I think so at this juncture.

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00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I think you're right, but

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00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: like stuff wise and peripherals, like it's still so good, but.

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: Like it's Max Free doesn't have those blow up outings. Man,

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00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: he just doesn't like that's that's an ace.

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: It's an ace. Max Free wanted Chip said yeah, I

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Speaker 2: said Verlander.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's like to top ten.

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00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: Top ten. I just think there's some other interesting names

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Speaker 2: that I kind of want to go over.

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: Here, like Manoa, where do you put?

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Speaker 2: Give me freed over Manoa, Give me freedover, Framber, give

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: me freedover, Gosman, give me freedover Bieber, give me freedover

1127
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: Logan webb Ye, who else I would take freed overseeas

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00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: a healthy walker Bueler. That's like the exact rank where

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Speaker 2: I think he is, which.

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's a top ten pitcher in this game.

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00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah he is. He's better than Arius, which is crazy.

1132
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: Urius is kind of taken a step back this year.

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: He's nine, I know, which is crazy, but we're kind

1134
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: of taking a step back.

1135
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna in five to seven.

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00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: He's he's been good. I was expecting him to be

1137
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: like Max Freed this year. The Braves rotation man if

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00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: Ian Anderson can figure it out, it's going to be

1139
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: good for a long time. Like that's a dark horse

1140
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: answer for our older question because Max Freed is getting

1141
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: better with age as he gets closer to thirty years old,

1142
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: continues to get better. Spencer Strider is only going to

1143
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 3: get better and already is fantastic. Kyleer Wright has proven

1144
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: to be a pretty darn good three Morton obviously won't

1145
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: be pitching in three years, and Anderson you'd hope would

1146
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: figure it out in three years. But they've also got

1147
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: some other, you know, interesting pitching prospects as well. The

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: Braves are going to be good for a long time.

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00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: Many kind of just to wrap up the mold this

1150
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: question here. The Mets to me have that like peak

1151
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: value of where they could win a World Series in

1152
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: the next three years, But like, what are the Mets

1153
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: going to look like in three in three or four years.

1154
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 3: Scherzer is going to be retired, to Gram will either

1155
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: be gone or slowed down. You're not gonna have Starling Marte.

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: You know, there's gonna be some other integral pieces that

1157
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: are gone. Mark Cannon will be gone. Who knows what

1158
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: they'll do with Nemo. I could see the Braves just

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: running the division for the next decade. After maybe maybe

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00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: the next year could be the Mets again, But after that,

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Speaker 3: I could see the Braves doing what they did with

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Speaker 3: Bobby Cox.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, though the Braves don't have one

1164
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: thing that the Mets have a thirteen billion.

1165
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: Dollar wallet's that's that's facts. Yeah.

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00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: So it's like we're you know, we're looking at the

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00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: Mets thinking, yes, they're playing to win right now, but

1168
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: they're going to continue to play to win right now.

1169
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: And that's why you got Stevie Cohen and his big

1170
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: bucks facing off against the potential dynasty of young guys

1171
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: who are already wrapped up in terms of contract value. I mean,

1172
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Speaker 2: it's just gonna be blast. And then the Phillies, you know,

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, with the Phillies being able to keep a

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00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: lot of their young prospects too, you know, they're.

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Speaker 3: Kind of playing going anywhere. He's for exactly long time, Castianos,

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Speaker 3: I still believe in schwarbur Like those guys are still

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Speaker 3: gonna be good for three more years. Like that Boem

1178
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: looks like a piece all of a sudden again. And

1179
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: then Mick Abel Andy Painter, they've got some good pieces too.

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: No one's still young, like Wheeler is older, but he'll

1181
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: still be good for a few years. The always is

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Speaker 3: gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: And the Marlins have Charles LeBlanc.

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Speaker 3: Charles Leblon is nasty. Are you see what this guy's doing? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And bands are like acting like this is the biggest

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Lavarnway, who we got on the podcast. He was

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Speaker 2: talking about guys prospects to look out to. His first

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Speaker 2: hitter was Charles LeBlanc.

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Speaker 3: Did he really say that?

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Yes? He was like, watch out for this guy. He

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: can really swing it. Immediately calls up sent me a

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01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: dm be like did you see Charles LeBlanc? And I'm like,

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: miss that. Oh, yeah, I saw Charles LeBlanc. He's been crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what the funniest part is about that.

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: To wrap up, people were hounding Craig Mish, you know

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Speaker 3: who's gonna be on the show? I think in the

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Speaker 3: coming weeks. Uh, because I want to. I just want

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Speaker 3: to get his thoughts on like all of the deadline

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Speaker 3: reports and everything. But they were asking him, hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: why aren't the Marlins calling up Charles will Blank? Like

1202
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: why aren't they calling him up? Why aren't they calling

1203
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: him up? Like they're starting Williams a studio out there?

1204
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: Why won't they call up Charles a blank? Who's hitting

1205
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: like three fifty in triple A. And he literally kept digging.

1206
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: He finally reached out, like reached out to his contacts

1207
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 3: and he said, the Marlins don't believe in Charles will Blanc.

1208
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 3: That was when I realized he was going to be good.

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01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 3: He could be pretty decent.

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Speaker 7: And look at what he's doing, man like he's he's

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Speaker 7: already got a point four f wour, which is better

1212
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 7: than a lot of guys that have seen a lot

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Speaker 7: of plate appearances.

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Speaker 3: For the Marlins, yeah, he's been a breath of fresh

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