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Speaker 1: is the Doctor Who critic for nurdiced comedian and writer
Speaker 1: Riley Silverman, Hello, um, actually not yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, how do you not
Speaker 1: know muscles from Brussels? And then and then you said it,
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to say anything. Well yeah, well
Speaker 1: you know, look, I'm I would only make myself look
Speaker 1: worse if I pointed out the fact that it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know where Brussels is Germany, right, not Russia.
Speaker 1: Well I think we already established it's in Belgium. That
Speaker 1: was like the whole point of your thing. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not even like an action person. And I knew
Speaker 1: that Jean Clan van Dam was muscles from Brussels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Um Okay, So, Riley, what was your
Speaker 1: first introduction to Doctor Who? I am weirdly got into
Speaker 1: Doctor Who first through Torchwood, the spinoff series. It was
Speaker 1: a thing where I had to watch episodes of it
Speaker 1: for work, and I liked it. But I'm also a
Speaker 1: weird com leash in this nightmare person and so I
Speaker 1: almost like, for years I wanted to watch Doctor Who,
Speaker 1: but in my head I had this whole thing of like,
Speaker 1: I can't give myself the amount of time it takes
Speaker 1: to watch six fifty years of a show, which I
Speaker 1: have since done, but at the time, like it's weird
Speaker 1: because most people I know who are fans Doctor Who
Speaker 1: of the modern series, like, aren't people who go like
Speaker 1: I know a lot. I have a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are fans of the original series, But people who
Speaker 1: I talked to you on day to day basis who
Speaker 1: run into me and like like my hardest person or whatever,
Speaker 1: tend to be like David Tennant fans or something like that.
Speaker 1: Nobody said to me like, no, you don't have to
Speaker 1: watch the Classics if you don't, like you can jump
Speaker 1: in on the news show, and like, I recommend the
Speaker 1: classic eventually, but it is it's a very different show
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of work to get into, just
Speaker 1: like watching Old Star Trek or whatever. You know. I
Speaker 1: watched it before, so I was like afraid of it
Speaker 1: and then but when I started watching Torch Boy, I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta see how this works. So I
Speaker 1: went back and started with the five original like the
Speaker 1: return of the show with Christopher Cockleston, and I fell
Speaker 1: for it pretty quickly and just plowed through it all
Speaker 1: and then went back and watched all the Torch towards
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, it was It's It's that was
Speaker 1: seven years ago this point, because I've it's become like
Speaker 1: a lifestyle for me since. But yeah, it's just something
Speaker 1: about it really clicked with me in a way that
Speaker 1: like very few other shows have. And it actually I
Speaker 1: would say maybe no other show like it's. It's the
Speaker 1: only show I have a tattoo for. And I'm literally
Speaker 1: sitting here with a Doctor Who t shirt and I
Speaker 1: have that as my coat. So that's so funny. But
Speaker 1: the people that we've had because I have my dragging,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're known as Doctor Who personally in
Speaker 1: our circle, I'm the Dragon ball Z person. Like when
Speaker 1: anyone has a podcast or a panel about DBZ and
Speaker 1: I have that's the only tattoo I have is a
Speaker 1: Dragon ball Z tattoo. And um, Kyle Shy, remember if
Speaker 1: you came on for the Avatar one. He has an
Speaker 1: avatar tattoo, and it was like, this is van dam
Speaker 1: just like all about Claude van dam yea, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have it with love from Russia and John Claude van
Speaker 1: Damn under it. It's just fun. He always muscles from
Speaker 1: Russell's men. He ate russell sprouts and the protein gave
Speaker 1: him because one stereotype Russians love Brussels. For me, it's
Speaker 1: because I'm so fickle and I knew I wanted a tattoo,
Speaker 1: but I was like, what am I going to always love?
Speaker 1: Have I always loved? And and something that that is
Speaker 1: going to stay with me? And that's why I got
Speaker 1: my DVZ tattoo. It just made sense as opposed to
Speaker 1: getting like a boyfriend's name or something that that's the
Speaker 1: worst thing, even if you're married. Don't even if it's
Speaker 1: your kid, okay with your kid break But yeah, I
Speaker 1: like mine is a doctor who tattoo, but it's not
Speaker 1: like the doctor who fonts, and it's not really one
Speaker 1: that like if I ever to fall out of love
Speaker 1: with this show, I'm like, I now my armies be
Speaker 1: burned off. It just says deep breath what's the name
Speaker 1: of an episode of the show which happened to have
Speaker 1: really a personal significance to me when I started transitioning.
Speaker 1: So that's why I got it. It It was like a
Speaker 1: gift to myself after being on hormones for over a year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this tattoo to commemorate this, and that's
Speaker 1: what this was about. And so you'll ever get more
Speaker 1: Doctor Who tattoos. I have thought about it because us
Speaker 1: I had a really big issue this year with getting
Speaker 1: my I had I had a surgery back in March,
Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to have it in January, getting pushed back,
Speaker 1: and I had a lot problems with it in fighting
Speaker 1: insurance companies. And then around that time, people had like
Speaker 1: sent me some gifts for the show and like presents,
Speaker 1: like like get well soon gifts or whatever, and like
Speaker 1: then like mental health gifts because I was like freaking
Speaker 1: out about surgery being canceled and the fandom of Doctor
Speaker 1: Who kind of co opted the Elizabeth Warren. Nevertheless, she
Speaker 1: persisted slogan to Nevertheless, she regenerated when they turned the
Speaker 1: Doctor when they cast a female to the Doctor, and
Speaker 1: so I thought about getting in the script, Galla frame,
Speaker 1: which is like the circular font thing that they had.
Speaker 1: It's like this like alien languages like layered and has
Speaker 1: like connected lines and it's hard to described out physical pictures,
Speaker 1: but it's basically like layered circles. I was going to
Speaker 1: get just and s R in script gallafraan somewhere my body,
Speaker 1: so it's like my regeneration after my So I might
Speaker 1: still do that at some point because it's cool. That
Speaker 1: also one that I don't think like screams like if
Speaker 1: you don't know what it means, Like, yeah, it just
Speaker 1: means like it's like a significant thing for me, because
Speaker 1: I did think of it. Also, getting the non doctor
Speaker 1: who tattoo I thought about getting about a year ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of glad I didn't go through with it.
Speaker 1: Was I was going to get the Rebel Alliance logo
Speaker 1: from Star Wars, but in the shape of a snowflake. Uh.
Speaker 1: That thought like a cool resistant snowflake then. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think as much as I love Star Wars,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been that one would
Speaker 1: not have aged as well for me. I think like
Speaker 1: in thirty or forty years, hopefully I'll be like, why
Speaker 1: was our resistant stuff. I don't know again, hopefully. I
Speaker 1: think it's funny that I'm going to be like ninety
Speaker 1: five and have gokuon Bvegetea on me Grandma, because mine is.
Speaker 1: I went with a subtle one too, because mine is
Speaker 1: just imperious Rex and kind of like your old English
Speaker 1: a little bit for those who don't know. That's name
Speaker 1: more the Submariner's battle cry, and it's lentin for everyone
Speaker 1: that it's so you know, the number one Marvel character,
Speaker 1: name More the Submariner at the only one that no
Speaker 1: one has the rights too, I think like universal ad
Speaker 1: it or something at that point, because it's weird because
Speaker 1: he's like in this weird kind of X Men kind
Speaker 1: of Fantastic Four guy, so I think no one knows
Speaker 1: what to do with him. But yeah, I like that
Speaker 1: one because it wasn't like a because I'm I'm always
Speaker 1: the type who's who's like, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: the thing everyone's doing. So I wasn't gonna get an
Speaker 1: X Men logo, He's going to get anything Superman or Batman,
Speaker 1: nothing Wolverine. And I was like, who's like a like
Speaker 1: far enough character to where like if you know, you
Speaker 1: know and it's like I like Naymore's energy, even though
Speaker 1: sometimes he can be a total tool. Like I like
Speaker 1: just like I'm going to get what I want and
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm gonna do what's best for me
Speaker 1: and my people. So that's how dry and live like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we should talk about the and this show.
Speaker 1: So I kind of wanted to hear though in your
Speaker 1: own words, Riley, like what Doctor Who is for someone?
Speaker 1: Like if you have you seen I have not seen
Speaker 1: any I can't, So here we'll go to my Doctor
Speaker 1: Who history because I came in with Eccleston really liked it.
Speaker 1: I love I love the thub Doctor. That's that's what
Speaker 1: Eccleston was for me. He was like, look, I survived
Speaker 1: the war and you know what's going I'm gonna pop
Speaker 1: off for gott to pop off, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to pop off anymore. And then we got Tenant, which
Speaker 1: was a dream. Then he changed Mint Smith and I
Speaker 1: just could not dig it. And everyone's like, just get
Speaker 1: back in, it'll be good, but I just never did.
Speaker 1: And then it just kind of turned into that thing
Speaker 1: where it fell behind the queue of the million things
Speaker 1: that we have to watch but I plan to revisit.
Speaker 1: I think if you like Eccleston, you'll like Peter Capaldi
Speaker 1: because Peter is my favorite doctor. He has a layer
Speaker 1: and he's not everyone's favorite doctor, but I like him
Speaker 1: because when when he first comes in in series eight,
Speaker 1: he's pretty grumpy, so he has an Eckelson vibe a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's actually what this tattoo is from. But
Speaker 1: then like he kind of like I think he's the doctor.
Speaker 1: And I won't go too deep in this right now,
Speaker 1: we're gonna reet and talk about the show, but he's
Speaker 1: a doctor that I feel most had like an actual,
Speaker 1: like defined character arc of development, Like he comes in
Speaker 1: like kind of lost and grumping and trying to find himself,
Speaker 1: and by the end of it, his character has like
Speaker 1: found himself again and it's like very much about like
Speaker 1: kindness and empathy, and that gets me back to like
Speaker 1: the show. So for me, like on its most simple form,
Speaker 1: Doctor Who is a serialized sci fi series about a
Speaker 1: time traveling alien who travels space and time in a
Speaker 1: spaceship that looks like a time machine and spaceship that
Speaker 1: looks like a police box for nineteen sixties, and that's
Speaker 1: and basically travels around, usually with a companion, once in
Speaker 1: a while alone but very rarely because it shouldn't travel alone,
Speaker 1: finding people like kind of stumbling upon people who are
Speaker 1: in trouble and helping them. And that's basically the premise
Speaker 1: of the show. So it's not unlike how like the
Speaker 1: premise of Star Trek is like, Hey, we have a
Speaker 1: thing that's happening in this area space, let's go check
Speaker 1: it out and see what's going on. That's basically what
Speaker 1: Doctor Who is like. They're often like the it's kind
Speaker 1: of quirky and at the hardest, which is the ship
Speaker 1: that they that they fly around in, which stands for
Speaker 1: time and all through dimension in space, Like they'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to this cool vacation planet and then
Speaker 1: they show up instead of a planet instead and like
Speaker 1: there's like trouble of Bruin and they'll kind of figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on and then stop it. Are they
Speaker 1: often here on Earth the other? Yes? Okay, both yes equally?
Speaker 1: Would you say I'll make it goes from season to season? Okay,
Speaker 1: it can be. Some seasons are really earth heavy. We've
Speaker 1: actually had a pretty earth heavy several years, but other seasons,
Speaker 1: they almost never come to Earth. So this most recent scene,
Speaker 1: they always look human. For the most part, there are
Speaker 1: aliens that are alien aliens, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: doctors always the doctor looks well humans look time from
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, there's a lot of humanoid races on
Speaker 1: this show. Oh so there's an episode is actually actually
Speaker 1: a quote from the show. Someone says, when you look human,
Speaker 1: He goes, no, you look time lord. So there are
Speaker 1: what we perceived to be human. Time Lords basically look
Speaker 1: like humans, but they have two hearts and that's like
Speaker 1: the difference. That's the big difference between them. And they
Speaker 1: also can regenerate and have like longer, and they also
Speaker 1: can they've also I'm really glad that So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna ask some questions. Sure, um, and I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you continue. So do they choose what they look like
Speaker 1: when they regenerate? Some can not, all can, um, Some
Speaker 1: people have randoms, sometime lords have random regenerations. Others can
Speaker 1: choose it. It's not super dug into the plot. That's
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things where it's just like
Speaker 1: in one episode the writers thought it was funny. They
Speaker 1: have this woman changed her appearance a bunch. So I
Speaker 1: guess sometime Lords the show is so fast and loose
Speaker 1: with cannon that it's like really fun to watch. Fans
Speaker 1: then like scramble to try like no, this, this is
Speaker 1: what this means, because basically what happened is there was
Speaker 1: one episode in the seventies where a character or named
Speaker 1: Romana who was the Doctor's companion, but she was also
Speaker 1: a time lord time lady. They replaced the actress in
Speaker 1: the second season that they had her, so they had
Speaker 1: her regenerate into this other actress and so they just
Speaker 1: had like a jokey scene the first episode with her
Speaker 1: where Romana kept walking in with different forms until she
Speaker 1: like solidified the ones it's gonna take and then travel
Speaker 1: with the doctor and it was La La Ward who
Speaker 1: was amazing. So that's like, so then like when you
Speaker 1: if you play the Doctor Who role playing game and
Speaker 1: you play, like if you're playing as a time Lord,
Speaker 1: you can choose like customized regeneration as one of your options,
Speaker 1: whereas you played the Doctor, you have like you can't
Speaker 1: choose your regeneration, Like the doctor can't like consciously choose
Speaker 1: his or her regeneration happens at random random generation, so
Speaker 1: there's two questions. Yes, so I remember there was a
Speaker 1: limit on how many regenerations that has uh, have we
Speaker 1: reached that it's been reset because the thing is the
Speaker 1: thing with that something like that, and that's that is
Speaker 1: a thing that was written into the show back in
Speaker 1: the like seventies and when they first started like fleshing
Speaker 1: out time Lord culture. Because when the show first started
Speaker 1: in sixty three with William Hartnell the first Doctor, the
Speaker 1: phrases that I'm using time Lord regeneration two hearts galliph right,
Speaker 1: none of that was part of the show. That was
Speaker 1: all Doctor was just a weird alien and he and
Speaker 1: his granddaughter were traveling the universe in this police box.
Speaker 1: That like Tartists has now become like on the show
Speaker 1: the term people used for these ships. But in that episode,
Speaker 1: like the granddaughter just called her ship the Tartist because
Speaker 1: of the initials. That wasn't like the official title for it.
Speaker 1: But it's just been reckoned over time, Like yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all called tartists. So the original one was like thirteen regenerations,
Speaker 1: and then what happened was at the end when Matt
Speaker 1: Smith became Peter Capaldi, there was they they had squeezed
Speaker 1: in an extra regeneration when they did the fifty the
Speaker 1: Anniversary special. So there's a regeneration between Paul McGann, who
Speaker 1: was the Doctor, who the actor who played the Doctor
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties TV movie who was the eighth Doctor,
Speaker 1: and Christopher Eccleston, who was the ninth Doctor. They squeezed
Speaker 1: in John Hurt as what we call the War Doctor,
Speaker 1: and the reason for that is because Eccleston didn't come
Speaker 1: back to the fifth Nivvertuary special, so they replaced so
Speaker 1: since he wouldn't come back for it, they wrote this
Speaker 1: new version of a doctor to kind of fulfill his role.
Speaker 1: So the idea is like basically when the show came
Speaker 1: back into thousand five, when it was kind of like
Speaker 1: had this soft reboot where it still had the old continuity,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a new format show now. It
Speaker 1: went from being a serialized twenty two minute episode show
Speaker 1: to being an hour each week, and each hour was
Speaker 1: like a pretty self contained story. They introduced this concept
Speaker 1: of there had been this awful genocidal war in between
Speaker 1: when the show ended and when it came back that
Speaker 1: they called the Time War, and at the end of
Speaker 1: that Time or the Doctor, it was between the Doctor's race,
Speaker 1: the Time Lords, and their greatest enemy, the Daleks, and
Speaker 1: the end of the Time War was at that point
Speaker 1: was written to be that the Doctor did something that
Speaker 1: was called the Moment. He unleased weapon called the Moment
Speaker 1: that destroyed both races, and he was the only survivor
Speaker 1: of the war. And that's why Echolson's Doctor is so
Speaker 1: torn and tormented because he has this guilt of being
Speaker 1: the destructor of his own own race on another race
Speaker 1: as well, which is very against what normally the creed
Speaker 1: of the Doctor is, which is very antigenicidal. And like
Speaker 1: there's an episode in Classic Who called Genesis of the
Speaker 1: Daleks where the Time Lord send the Doctor, which is
Speaker 1: Tom Baker's Doctor back in time to the Daleks home
Speaker 1: world to try to prevent them from ever being created
Speaker 1: in the first place, and he ends up not doing
Speaker 1: it because he doesn't feel like he morally has the
Speaker 1: right to to deny and that our species the chance
Speaker 1: to exist. And it's a really interesting, fascinating episode. And
Speaker 1: so that was kind of the the crux of the
Speaker 1: new show was that Doctor had like broken his own promise,
Speaker 1: and that's why they brought in John Hurt, like he
Speaker 1: was like, he hasn't even referred himself as the doctor.
Speaker 1: He's the one who failed to be the doctor, and
Speaker 1: then that's why he's The other ones are all feeling
Speaker 1: guilty from then on. So that was one regeneration that
Speaker 1: was squeezed in. And also you may remember during David
Speaker 1: Tennant's run this net Present episode where he starts to
Speaker 1: regenerate and then like sends his energy out of him
Speaker 1: into a hand and turns into a new doctor. So
Speaker 1: that was like counted as regeneration as well. And so
Speaker 1: basically what happened was when Matt Smith was at the
Speaker 1: end of his run, he said, like, I've used my regenerations.
Speaker 1: I'm dying. When I die, I'm dead. And then through
Speaker 1: plot things that I won't spoil for people haven't already
Speaker 1: heard it. They like Rea set his regenerations, and so
Speaker 1: Peter Capaldi was the first doctor of this news cycle
Speaker 1: and they've kind of now gone like, we don't know
Speaker 1: how many he has because they don't I think. I
Speaker 1: think when they made thirteen as the number that was
Speaker 1: back when the show, I had no idea they would
Speaker 1: last and come back after break, so it was easy
Speaker 1: to toss out like a number. It seems super fluck
Speaker 1: when you're on like when you're all on the fourth Doctor,
Speaker 1: it's easy to go. Yeah, thirteen regenerations, We'll see whatever.
Speaker 1: Now that we're on Doctor, it's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say a set market. We might hit twenty six
Speaker 1: at some point because we're kind of going through these
Speaker 1: people every three years or so. Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: go through some of these facts about when it was premiered.
Speaker 1: It was all over the map there, so no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to stop you because I want you to
Speaker 1: go through those facts after these messages. All right, those
Speaker 1: were some juicy messages. I know you're like, oh, we'll
Speaker 1: get into the meat if you Why did you stop? Well,
Speaker 1: guess what, we're back. It's a difficent I'm iffy. He's
Speaker 1: over there, Riley's here with us here, so yes. So.
Speaker 1: Dr Who first appeared on BBC TV on Saturday, November
Speaker 1: twenty three, nineteen sixty three. It was actually eighty seconds
Speaker 1: later than it was scheduled to air due to the
Speaker 1: assassination of John F. Kennedy Biggest Day. Yeah. In fact,
Speaker 1: like they almost canceled it because it didn't do very
Speaker 1: well and they had to re air it to get
Speaker 1: it like people to lately they like and they fought
Speaker 1: for it because um, essentially Sydney Newman created the show.
Speaker 1: He was a Canadian and he was like a head
Speaker 1: of drama at BBC at the time he created it.
Speaker 1: He also created the Avengers TV series, The Wonderful and
Speaker 1: uh you know I'm talking the British Brian Adventures not
Speaker 1: being superheroes. Yes, so he created it. But Verity Lambert,
Speaker 1: who has mentioned down here, she was really the like
Speaker 1: mother of the show, like City Newman was like, and
Speaker 1: he's very responsible. He has a lot of credit for it.
Speaker 1: But but Verry Lambert really is who brought all these
Speaker 1: disparate bits of it together. Um, so she was really
Speaker 1: important to it and she fought to get them to
Speaker 1: rerun the show. And also some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: she did that was really important, which is mentioned on
Speaker 1: here is the dialeks were basically so like the first
Speaker 1: the first serialized story was called an Unearthly Child, and
Speaker 1: it was like the doctor and his granddaughter Susan were
Speaker 1: on earth. He had two teachers who that were like
Speaker 1: in school with Susan, who were confused because there was
Speaker 1: something she seemed to have like an impossible knowledge of
Speaker 1: like these really complicated math and science things. But then
Speaker 1: like history, she was like completely dumb on because she's
Speaker 1: from a different planet, different time period. So they like
Speaker 1: investigated her and they like followed her after school and
Speaker 1: she was like living in a garbage dump and they
Speaker 1: like a like a like a warehouse yard like workyard. Um.
Speaker 1: And so then they followed her in and they felt
Speaker 1: like they found her and her grandfather living in this box.
Speaker 1: And then they're like they like argue with him and
Speaker 1: pushed their way in, and then he's like, well, you
Speaker 1: see my ships, and now we have now to take off.
Speaker 1: So they like left Earth and like went through time.
Speaker 1: They like trial back in time to like the Stone Age.
Speaker 1: That's the very first episode of the show and the
Speaker 1: Doctor in the original run. We'll go I know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go more into each doctor as we move on.
Speaker 1: But this is interesting because the show was so different
Speaker 1: than The Doctor wasn't really the hero of the show.
Speaker 1: He was kind of just like the foil for things
Speaker 1: to be happening, Like he was the reason why they
Speaker 1: were in this ship and they were traveling places, and
Speaker 1: he was a little bit cantankerous, a little bit crotchety.
Speaker 1: He became more of a hero as time went on,
Speaker 1: because as actors left the show, it stopped being like originally,
Speaker 1: the Ian and Barbed the teachers were kind of like
Speaker 1: the heroes of the show, and like Susan was like
Speaker 1: a sidekick character, and the doctor was kind of not
Speaker 1: a not an antagonist, but he was kind of like
Speaker 1: this crotchety old man that was like like when like
Speaker 1: the reason why they were stuck in this ship. As
Speaker 1: people started leaving the show, that doctor kind of became
Speaker 1: the constant and then became the lead. It's it's really
Speaker 1: interesting with this show how much just like necessity of
Speaker 1: invention creates canon, like the entire concept of regeneration, which
Speaker 1: I think we skipped over that when we were talking
Speaker 1: because I was digressing a lot. The regeneration is basically
Speaker 1: a concept in the show where whenever an actor wants
Speaker 1: to leave the show, the actors played the doctor, they
Speaker 1: regenerate into a new form, which is basically a whole
Speaker 1: new genetic code for somebody, but who has the same
Speaker 1: essential memories and basic personality or not even personality, but
Speaker 1: like code of ethics and stuff as their previous versions.
Speaker 1: But they could be widely different personality wise, and they
Speaker 1: can have very different behaviors and in tastes and interest
Speaker 1: and concerns and stuff at that, but a common creato basically,
Speaker 1: and it's just a genius way of yeah, And it
Speaker 1: came out of William Hartne was very ill. He was
Speaker 1: he had he had like a really bad illness and
Speaker 1: he could not get through the show and he would,
Speaker 1: like we joke about it a lot now, but he
Speaker 1: had a hard time saying his lines sometimes and he
Speaker 1: would just like stumble over them. And back then they
Speaker 1: didn't have time to like take a like stop and
Speaker 1: refilm the scene, so we just cut it in a
Speaker 1: lot of flub lines on the show, and we wrote
Speaker 1: the screen junkies on his trailer for the show, like
Speaker 1: we had a joke about flubb lines, and people kind
Speaker 1: of took us to task for maybe fun of Heartnell
Speaker 1: because he was ill, but like it was we took
Speaker 1: a bunch of flub lines. So they were like, we
Speaker 1: have to replace William Hartnell, and rather than just like
Speaker 1: find another actor who seems similar to him, they replaced
Speaker 1: him with Patrick Trouton, who was very different and how
Speaker 1: he approached the doctor and so that kind of locked
Speaker 1: in that we can change this character when we regenerate them.
Speaker 1: And so like the next doctor after Patrick Trouton was
Speaker 1: on Pertwee, who was like this like velvet coat wearing,
Speaker 1: like secret agent guy. So that like a good example
Speaker 1: of a thing where the show needed to change for
Speaker 1: a practical reason, and so they just found a way
Speaker 1: to make it work with the plot. It's super smart. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was crazy too, because I mean November twenty three
Speaker 1: is such a weird time to drop a show because
Speaker 1: like that was five days away for things, even even
Speaker 1: though this was in London. Yeah, I think they're not
Speaker 1: they're not super concerned about Thanksgiving. That's true. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know but years before me and Danny were born. God, okay,
Speaker 1: so you've mentioned Riley, You've mentioned Dollis, Yes, quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And I think that most people, even if you're not,
Speaker 1: like if you haven't seen the show like me, but
Speaker 1: you would recognize these characters. Can you describe them to
Speaker 1: everyone's salt shakers with arms? Yeah, they they're the weirdest
Speaker 1: things because they are. They were in the second serial.
Speaker 1: The first serial was The Unhearthly Child, which had like
Speaker 1: the alien the um, the Caveman or the stone Age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's funny too because it's shot. They had like
Speaker 1: one set they had no money and they like shot
Speaker 1: it like in the tiniest set on the BBC lot.
Speaker 1: So the Daleks were the next serial and it was
Speaker 1: Terry Nation who was the writer of it, and he
Speaker 1: created these dogs and there they were made on a
Speaker 1: very low budget. Newman was really against it, Like Newman
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want any buck eyed monsters on
Speaker 1: the show. But then they like very lamborous, like this
Speaker 1: was the only script that we had ready to go,
Speaker 1: so we had to film it. But then it was
Speaker 1: a huge hit because the Dollegs despite seeming like the
Speaker 1: silly because they basically looked like rolling salt shakers with
Speaker 1: a plunger in the middle of their head, which is
Speaker 1: like like like they shoot guns out they do. They
Speaker 1: do so many weird things with it, like they like
Speaker 1: if it grabs someone's face, they can like suck stuff
Speaker 1: out of it. But they also taught they have like
Speaker 1: little like almost like the sound robotic. Yes, they have
Speaker 1: a very danger Will Robinson vibe to them. They're like yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing is they're there, Yes, they're aliens. They are.
Speaker 1: They were a race of beings called the Colds who
Speaker 1: fought in a planet wide war against some other race
Speaker 1: called the Falls. This is all what came out of
Speaker 1: like later season. At the time, this was a little
Speaker 1: bit less defined, like the Daleks and the Falls were
Speaker 1: enemies in this original storyline, that's all we really know
Speaker 1: about them. And there have been like a major war,
Speaker 1: and the Dollegs were like hold up in this city.
Speaker 1: But basically when they were in this war, the College
Speaker 1: were mutated and put in these traveling machines to protect them,
Speaker 1: and then they became this like maddened, like supremacist race
Speaker 1: that basically wants to destroy all things in the universe
Speaker 1: but them. I'm so angry because I'm as I'm listening along,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like googling just to see what things
Speaker 1: look like and to bounce back, and I realized that
Speaker 1: Kalid's is Daleks backwardship. Yeah, so the Daleks are really
Speaker 1: interesting because they seem so silly, but there's something about
Speaker 1: them when they are used right, they're so creepy. And
Speaker 1: so the Dollargs are very much credited for this success
Speaker 1: to the show because kids in the UK really thought
Speaker 1: they were scary and like there's there's like a running
Speaker 1: gay with old Doctor Who fans of like hiding behind
Speaker 1: the sofa cushions because Doctor Who was on and the
Speaker 1: Dollegs are a big part of that. And they just
Speaker 1: they talked very slowly and do they move slowly? They do,
Speaker 1: especially early on newer Newer who has kind of sped
Speaker 1: them up a little bit and given them the ability
Speaker 1: to fly. Really, yeah, it was a running It was
Speaker 1: a running gag because they like they used to be
Speaker 1: like the joke was like, well dolls, the simplest solution
Speaker 1: of dollargs has just put a stairwell in your building
Speaker 1: or something. But then during the they mate. No, they're
Speaker 1: they're mutants that like they're like they're like basically like
Speaker 1: organically created. Yeah, because it's like how do they how
Speaker 1: do they make more of them? Yeah, basically a manufacturer.
Speaker 1: They're like they're like scientifically genetically engineers. When trying to
Speaker 1: say okay, okay, yeah, that's that's one thing that was
Speaker 1: interesting as someone who's more of a doctor who knew
Speaker 1: when I started watching, When I first saw the Daleks,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is ridiculous. But as you
Speaker 1: kind of watch it and see almost the seriousness that
Speaker 1: the doctor has when that there's no way around it,
Speaker 1: you feel that that heaviness with yeah, with him. There's
Speaker 1: an episode in the first season in the modern series
Speaker 1: called Dolak. It's like the middle of Eccleston's run and
Speaker 1: you've meet the dogs for one Dollek by itself for
Speaker 1: the first time. It's real creepy. It's a scary episode.
Speaker 1: It's a base on our siege plot, and it's just
Speaker 1: really scary the Dolleks. There are some pretty good dolle
Speaker 1: plots throughout the history of the show, and there's also
Speaker 1: some really bad dollar plots. They are an adversary that
Speaker 1: is really well used when properly used, and just ridiculous
Speaker 1: when used too much. They get kind of clownish and
Speaker 1: they get a little overdone, and they their mythology has
Speaker 1: been so spread out and made strange that it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to like still find them scary. But they also
Speaker 1: been taking a break from using them a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like they haven't used them a lot in the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, and I'm hoping that when they finally
Speaker 1: do bring them back, it'll be like a huge it'll
Speaker 1: be like really intense, and I will say, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to catch but I want to point out, just for
Speaker 1: people following along with my you you've spoken serials. You
Speaker 1: said cereal a unruly child, and just for the looking
Speaker 1: at it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: it looks like when you say cereal. It's a collection
Speaker 1: of episodes. One through four was technically serial a based
Speaker 1: on Yes, yeah, so basically modern I mean sorry, Classic
Speaker 1: Doctor who was rarely ever one episode, one self contained story.
Speaker 1: It was always used at least a two parts, usually
Speaker 1: more usually each usually it was at least four, sometimes
Speaker 1: could be six. At the largest ever was twelve plus
Speaker 1: one thing that was considered a bonus episode. It was
Speaker 1: like a attempt to spend off to a different series.
Speaker 1: And then the second longest was ten episodes. And then
Speaker 1: there's arguments because there's a season during the Six Doctors
Speaker 1: run where the entire season is also a kind of
Speaker 1: a cereal, but with like mini cereals in it, So
Speaker 1: like like does that whole season count it's one cereal
Speaker 1: or is it a collection of episodes of multiple But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's where you're getting, like nerd fandom. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so whereas modern Doctor Who is typically an hour long
Speaker 1: and there's a beginning, middle, and end of that story,
Speaker 1: and then our classic Doctor Who is roughly four to
Speaker 1: six twenty two minute episodes that tell one continuous story,
Speaker 1: which can be weird to watch when you're used to
Speaker 1: modern TV because they're still used like a beginning, the
Speaker 1: middle of the end of each episode and a lot
Speaker 1: of like resetting the arc in each new episode so
Speaker 1: that like this episode has like steaks and for momentum
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What can be really it's it's
Speaker 1: a strange thing to get used to watching, especially when
Speaker 1: you're watching them, Like if you sit down and watch
Speaker 1: like one arc and like a sitting and you like
Speaker 1: you spend like two hours watching this four episode thing.
Speaker 1: It can be weird to get this constant resetting of things.
Speaker 1: But it was designed for an era people never rewatched stuff,
Speaker 1: people with just everybody watching the show, and it was
Speaker 1: like probably useful that if if you miss an episode
Speaker 1: and came back, you wouldn't be completely lost as what
Speaker 1: was happening, because you had kind of like a resetting
Speaker 1: of who the important power figures were and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: People forget that we didn't have like VCRs, like people
Speaker 1: didn't record things back then. Yeah, well you're talking about
Speaker 1: in the sixties you kind of started to go into
Speaker 1: the doctors, but I wanted to officially go into them.
Speaker 1: So we have currently thirteen We're going to start from
Speaker 1: the top of the first doctor. Maybe you can just
Speaker 1: give like a line or two because there's thirteen of
Speaker 1: them of like what people should know about this doctor.
Speaker 1: So the first one up is William Hartnell from nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three to nineteen sixty six. Yeah, so he basically,
Speaker 1: like I said, he started out kind of cranky and
Speaker 1: kind of like slightly have a serial role with the
Speaker 1: with the companions, softened up over time when he was
Speaker 1: kind of was Do you think was that what was
Speaker 1: written for him or is that what he brought to
Speaker 1: the character. He actually I think he actually was instrumental
Speaker 1: in softening the character. He thought the character was to
Speaker 1: grab and wanted to make him. He wanted to be
Speaker 1: more the hero of the show because one thing was
Speaker 1: like children loved he was like he he liked having
Speaker 1: a character that like his grandchildren could watch and like
Speaker 1: kids on the street with because he had always been
Speaker 1: like military men and policemen and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what we forgot to mention is
Speaker 1: that the program was originally intended to appeal to a
Speaker 1: family audience as an educational program using time travel, which
Speaker 1: is really smart as a means to explore scientific ideas
Speaker 1: and famous moments in history. If you don't know what
Speaker 1: else did that wishbone? Uh much later, And actually, I
Speaker 1: the Modern Show the newest season is kind of going
Speaker 1: back to that education definitely, and in the same way
Speaker 1: that the original one did, where oh we're in space
Speaker 1: and we're learning a little bit about science and we're
Speaker 1: learning a little history when we go back in time,
Speaker 1: like the two historical episodes this current season have been.
Speaker 1: One was about Rosa Parks and almost about the partition
Speaker 1: in India. Yeah. But but I mean, from what I
Speaker 1: can tell from this series, it did get very adult ish, right,
Speaker 1: I mean always family friendly. It's gotten darker in the
Speaker 1: modern era, but it always tries to be still kid friendly,
Speaker 1: and kids still love the show. There are some episodes
Speaker 1: or people are like, it might be too scary for
Speaker 1: kids because in the UK they're not as married to
Speaker 1: what time a show runs, so there are some episodes
Speaker 1: where like if they're super scary, they'll run it later
Speaker 1: in the night because like they have like a they
Speaker 1: have like limits, but typically runs at the same time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the most part, it's still it's still
Speaker 1: at its core a show that's designed for kids and adults.
Speaker 1: It's gotten more adult, Like it's not adult in the
Speaker 1: way that like Ballastar Galactica as adult, but it's adult,
Speaker 1: and that it might have like complicated themes and emotional
Speaker 1: things happening in it that you don't expect that you would,
Speaker 1: like we'll talk about it when we get to the
Speaker 1: episode guides. There are some episodes that are very like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of care for depth and things happening. Um,
Speaker 1: but just the way yeah, the one through these doctors
Speaker 1: for you real quick. So yeah, William Hartnell original Doctor
Speaker 1: kind of like it was like the prototype. A lot
Speaker 1: of things you don't know, Like I said, we don't
Speaker 1: know that he's a time lord. We don't know that
Speaker 1: he's from Gallifrey. We don't know that he has two hearts.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think I think that even like inspect
Speaker 1: him at one point only has one heart because I've
Speaker 1: just been treated like a human basically, so that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff is there softens over time. There's an episode
Speaker 1: called The War Machines, which I think is the first
Speaker 1: one where you really see him like step forward and
Speaker 1: like kind of seems like he's taking his role as
Speaker 1: a defender of Earth. He leaves. Patrick Troughton is the
Speaker 1: next Doctor, and he was from nineteen sixty six to
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty trout And, unfortunately is the Doctor who bears
Speaker 1: the biggest brunt of missing episodes because the BBC dumped
Speaker 1: a lot of old footage and we're kind of they're
Speaker 1: finding more and more of his stuff, but a lot
Speaker 1: of his era has just lost to history. We're getting
Speaker 1: some of it back. But Trouton really is, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the doctor that helped define the Doctor as a character,
Speaker 1: as a hero as we as we know him today.
Speaker 1: A lot of what modern doctors are doing comes from
Speaker 1: what Trouton did with the role because he was a
Speaker 1: little bit younger, so they could like let him do
Speaker 1: some more action e stuff and they could like have
Speaker 1: him run around a little bit more than than Hartnell could.
Speaker 1: So that's part of why that happened. And also at
Speaker 1: that point it was very clear the Doctor is the
Speaker 1: hero of the show. So but Trouton did. Trouton's big
Speaker 1: thing he dressed more like a hobo, you know that
Speaker 1: heart No, dressed like like a very like like polished gentleman.
Speaker 1: And Trouton had like patchwork pants and like a coat
Speaker 1: that was too big. And his whole thing was he
Speaker 1: would disarm people by pretending to be dumb and silly,
Speaker 1: and they would like kind of like underestimate him, and
Speaker 1: then he would like actually be the smartest person in
Speaker 1: the room, but they wouldn't know it. This is a
Speaker 1: really dumb question. But as a doctor actually a doctor
Speaker 1: um sort of, it's it's complicated, Like doctor did go
Speaker 1: to an academy on Gallifrey and like is very very
Speaker 1: smart and like they have in some episodes said it's
Speaker 1: one of the things for Cannon changes every every like
Speaker 1: this show has no real official can because sometimes doctor
Speaker 1: will say, yes, I have I have doctorates and these things,
Speaker 1: but the doctor also lies a doctor jazz and jazz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also a thing where because each showrunner kind of
Speaker 1: puts their own spin on it, and the departing shore
Speaker 1: Run or Stephen Moffatt had this idea back when he
Speaker 1: was just a fan back in the nineties, he posted
Speaker 1: on an IMDb message board that was this idea of
Speaker 1: what if the word doctor in our This was when
Speaker 1: he was a fan, before he was involved in the series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he might have written a couple of like
Speaker 1: not like like side things, but the show wasn't back yet.
Speaker 1: The show was like in the middle of what we
Speaker 1: call the wilderness years. He said, like, here's an idea,
Speaker 1: what if we got the word doctor from the doctor?
Speaker 1: Like this person who comes and helps people is like
Speaker 1: that because the doctor says, like, I call myself the doctor.
Speaker 1: It's a promise I make to myself that I'm going
Speaker 1: to help people, basically, And so they what if we
Speaker 1: got the word doctor in our culture because of it?
Speaker 1: And then when he was showrunner he made that cannon.
Speaker 1: He had had a character tell the doctor and we
Speaker 1: get that word from you. You know, can you talk
Speaker 1: about how the name came to be doctor? What does
Speaker 1: doctor who mean? It was a joke. The joke is basically,
Speaker 1: I'm the doctor and they go doctor who, and that's
Speaker 1: the joke. So that's the name of the show was
Speaker 1: a joke. And there's a lot of fighting the very
Speaker 1: first episode and it happens a lot on the show.
Speaker 1: And it's also a thing that people fight about a
Speaker 1: lot on the internet because the character is called the Doctor,
Speaker 1: but some people will say doctor Who, and people really mad.
Speaker 1: There is not not named doctor Who. It's a doctor.
Speaker 1: But if you've watched Classic Who, he has called doctor
Speaker 1: Who in the credits for most of the run series,
Speaker 1: and so it's not that cut and dry. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: actually back. It's funny. Yeah, it's it's well. Actually, So,
Speaker 1: Doctor Trouten was the kind of the template what we
Speaker 1: think of the modern Doctor. John Pertwee is the first
Speaker 1: color in color doctor that's the nineteen seventy and seventy four.
Speaker 1: He's the third Doctor. This was an interesting thing talking
Speaker 1: about the way the show has to change to the times,
Speaker 1: the that his series feels totally different to what came
Speaker 1: before it, partly because it's in color, and it feels
Speaker 1: much more like a seventies hard boiled like spy show,
Speaker 1: but alien and yeah, the premise of that early, especially
Speaker 1: the first few seasons of his run, the Doctor has
Speaker 1: been exiled from Galla for a to Earth, and he
Speaker 1: can't travel in space sometime, he can only stay on Earth.
Speaker 1: In this one time period, and so he gets a
Speaker 1: job working for this organization called a UNIT, which is
Speaker 1: the United Nations in Televince Task Force, which also can
Speaker 1: be unified whatever it changes all the time. He's the
Speaker 1: scientific advisor for Units, and he there's like a whole
Speaker 1: supporting cast of like soldiers and there's this really great
Speaker 1: supporting like he's the leader of unickname Brigadier left Bridge Stewart,
Speaker 1: who has become like a predominant like NPC essentially on
Speaker 1: the show PC, I'm playing too many games like a
Speaker 1: supporting character who would make reappearances over the years. And
Speaker 1: then unfortunately Nicolas Courtney, the actor he played him, died
Speaker 1: and they never brought him back in the modern show,
Speaker 1: but they brought his daughter back to do his death
Speaker 1: take over his role. But so John Pertus character was.
Speaker 1: He worked for Unit. He stayed on Earth for the
Speaker 1: most part, and he was very like Smarmie and he
Speaker 1: was kind of like the seventies spy character he had.
Speaker 1: He's very much like the kind of thing that Austin
Speaker 1: Powers was parodying, Like like he if you look at
Speaker 1: his picture, he's wearing like a velvet nightclub singer jacket.
Speaker 1: He would do like the Nucian I Kedo was his
Speaker 1: big thing, which like he basically like he like with karate,
Speaker 1: chop Aliens and go Hi. And he had he had gadgets.
Speaker 1: He had his Oh, he had like a car called
Speaker 1: the Humobile. He had a little old gelope he wrote
Speaker 1: around and called Bessie. And he had like like a
Speaker 1: spiral copter. He'd fly right, he would just I love
Speaker 1: the ruffles on his shirt. Oh my gosh. His era
Speaker 1: introduced one of the next most prominant villains of the show,
Speaker 1: which is his character called the Master, who is the
Speaker 1: sort of antithesis to the Doctor. He's a renegade time
Speaker 1: lord as well, but he's one. It's it's very much
Speaker 1: a Xavier Magneto relationship, and it's a very much friend
Speaker 1: of mees over the course of his and not unlike Magneto.
Speaker 1: Some eras he's really really evil and some eras he's
Speaker 1: just like a misunderstood. Yeah, there's a lot of that
Speaker 1: going on. So something you said that he does brings
Speaker 1: up a very interesting question that leads into something that's
Speaker 1: very important about Doctor who that I feel like you
Speaker 1: can confirm. We'll get into that after the messages. Welcome
Speaker 1: mag everybody is I am back still with Danny and
Speaker 1: right like hello, and we're only on Doctor four and
Speaker 1: there's so many it's fifty five years of show. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that I can't. But here's the thing. If we
Speaker 1: skipped any you would get a him actually about it
Speaker 1: was so um So yes, let's talk about Tom Baker,
Speaker 1: who is the fourth Doctor. Tom Baker is the Doctor Who,
Speaker 1: especially for American audiences, was like the doctor on the
Speaker 1: Classic era because that's the point when most PPS stations
Speaker 1: were definitely running the show. So he's the doctor when
Speaker 1: you imagine Doctor Who. If you're if you think of
Speaker 1: it as a guy with a scarf and of Fedora,
Speaker 1: that's the doctor you're thinking of Tom Baker. And he's great.
Speaker 1: He is really he lives up to the hype in
Speaker 1: my opinion, because I I did when I watch to
Speaker 1: Classic Who, I was afraid I wouldn't like him because
Speaker 1: sometimes some of the people who are fans of him,
Speaker 1: not all of him, not of them. Some of them
Speaker 1: are also some of the fans of the most like
Speaker 1: prickly about certain things. But he's a really, really, really
Speaker 1: fun doctor. I don't know why, but he looks like
Speaker 1: a modern day Freddie Krueger outfit. Do you see this
Speaker 1: at let me watch where's Freddie? Like that? And then
Speaker 1: this like these colors, this color scheme. You go, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna remember when this is when this episode goes out,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tweet Freddy Krueger and and this anyways, please continue.
Speaker 1: That's what I jumped to, the color scheme in the hat.
Speaker 1: He was just he was very fun to watch. He
Speaker 1: had a booming voice that could fill the room, and
Speaker 1: he's just very charming. He played the role longer than
Speaker 1: anybody and actually playing it because he did. He was
Speaker 1: on the show for seven years, seven seasons, and he
Speaker 1: it's funny because you can tell by again he's like
Speaker 1: done like and he actually when I mentioned law the
Speaker 1: Award the second Romana, they actually like had a romance
Speaker 1: and got married and then divorced over the course of
Speaker 1: the time. So when they first start getting on the show,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like sparks flying, there's a lot
Speaker 1: it's a really good era. Douglas Adams wrote for the
Speaker 1: show during his era, and it's it feels it's where
Speaker 1: the show starts to feel more like what we think
Speaker 1: of as modern hill. Peter Davison is the doctor after him. Pete.
Speaker 1: Davison's era is a lot more hard sci fi than
Speaker 1: like Baker's era had a lot of horror kind of
Speaker 1: stuff to it, and then a lot of it like
Speaker 1: veered into harder sci fi and there was like some
Speaker 1: more silly, rompy kind of stuff in the middle. Davison
Speaker 1: did it for a few years. He has a very
Speaker 1: crowded tartist like there's like there's three kids in his tartists.
Speaker 1: In the beginning of it, he has a companion die
Speaker 1: under his watch, which is like a big deal at
Speaker 1: the time. And he also he's the one who wears
Speaker 1: a cricket outfit with a with a celary stick on
Speaker 1: his lapel. And he's just kind of nice. He's just
Speaker 1: a friendly dude. He's a he's a good, good, good bloke.
Speaker 1: I guess it's the big things when we did Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's yeah, he's fun. Uh. He was young. He
Speaker 1: was the youngest person never played the character at that point,
Speaker 1: so it was like it was interesting to have this
Speaker 1: like fresh face, blonde, young cricket player on the show.
Speaker 1: Colin Baker, the next Doctor of the six Doctor very
Speaker 1: controversial and was written very arrogantly was written originally to
Speaker 1: be like they kind of wanted to do what Peter
Speaker 1: Capaldi's doctor did, which was start kind of unlikable and
Speaker 1: become like by the end of it, didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to do it. Was actually fired by the BBC
Speaker 1: because he was very unliked. He has the worst costume,
Speaker 1: well not the worst people some people who love his
Speaker 1: costume Bretting Mad that says the worst. But he did
Speaker 1: not like he wanted like a more like stealthy, kind
Speaker 1: of like downplay costume, and they go, what if you
Speaker 1: had no taste at all? So they did that. He
Speaker 1: so that's his outfit. It's as a bunch of patchwork stuff.
Speaker 1: His care his doctor is very arrogance, very self aggrandizing
Speaker 1: and very and like strangles his companion and it's hardist
Speaker 1: in the first one. So he's like they made him
Speaker 1: unlikable and his so he's he's unfortunately serve with some
Speaker 1: really weird storylines that don't do him justice. And he's
Speaker 1: actually a doctor who in the audio dramas on Big
Speaker 1: Finish has really kind of come into his own and
Speaker 1: kind of Colin Baker as an actor has really kind
Speaker 1: of become an ambassador of the show. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of nice that he's kind of gotten an appreciation and
Speaker 1: as he's gotten older, because he I think he could
Speaker 1: have been a really great doctor and wasn't given the
Speaker 1: material to do it. And so what's great about the
Speaker 1: big finishes. He's now given that material and has been
Speaker 1: able to shine. Have you seen people, because you go
Speaker 1: to a lot of cons do you see people? Cause
Speaker 1: but yeah, people, people's outfit is wild. People make that outfit,
Speaker 1: they do it. Yeah. He it's like if it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of colors, like just his whole suit is all
Speaker 1: different colors. Yeah, every doctor has fans, every doctor. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't like to be like, oh, he's the
Speaker 1: word I like every doctor. It's not a doctor I
Speaker 1: don't like. And I actually liked Colin Baker's doctor. And
Speaker 1: there are some fun plots during his era. It's just
Speaker 1: it's real dark too. Semecer McCoy is the last Doctor
Speaker 1: of the classic era. He played him from eighty nine
Speaker 1: the show was canceled. His doctor kind of goes to
Speaker 1: a bit of metamorphosis as well, Like he's kind of
Speaker 1: this silly buffoon when he first comes in and he
Speaker 1: like his whole thing, his like first season is saying
Speaker 1: idioms wrong, Like he'll like start saying it one way
Speaker 1: and then say it the wrong way. I can't even think,
Speaker 1: like yeah, it would be like a lot of like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, a bird in the hand is worth a leaf,
Speaker 1: Like that's what he would say, and like what so
Speaker 1: that would be hit. But his character has He's the
Speaker 1: one if you'd see pictures of a doctor with like
Speaker 1: a vest ask question marks on it, like a bowler
Speaker 1: hat and an umbrella with the question mark at the
Speaker 1: end of it. He had a great companion named Ace,
Speaker 1: who was like a very tough like like street wise
Speaker 1: like she she was a waitress on a on a
Speaker 1: space station. But she's like the like tough like she's
Speaker 1: kind of the prototype of characters like Buffy like female
Speaker 1: like strong female warrior characters. And the kool Waits whole
Speaker 1: thing was like they were kind of they were trying
Speaker 1: to bring back mystery to the show, so there was
Speaker 1: like a plan to do that and then the show
Speaker 1: was canceled. But there was a lot his doctor or
Speaker 1: would intentionally like lie to his companions because he was
Speaker 1: like trying to man to wait them so that he
Speaker 1: could fill his plans like he would trick his companions
Speaker 1: and being upset that he could like trick the enemies
Speaker 1: or whatever. Paul McGann is the least longest last thing
Speaker 1: Doctor because he's only in it for at the time,
Speaker 1: one TV movie. He has since come back for one
Speaker 1: like web based like prequel episode special another Doctor though,
Speaker 1: Who has found a huge, huge audience in audio dramas
Speaker 1: audience and they're really good. But the game is the
Speaker 1: There was a basically the show was canceled at eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Fox and the BBC tried to bring it back in
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. It was going to be at Fox
Speaker 1: and BBC joint production series. It ended up not getting
Speaker 1: picked up, but they did air it as a made
Speaker 1: for TV movie and so Paul McGann played that, and
Speaker 1: then we didn't have Doctor Who again until two thousand five.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were books, there were audio things, but
Speaker 1: the but that was the big thing. So then eccleston
Speaker 1: ninth he's great, he's really good, did not get along
Speaker 1: rust T Davis, the show runner, like they'd worked together before,
Speaker 1: but some reason they clashed on the set of the shops.
Speaker 1: Different than any other Doctor I mean one he has
Speaker 1: a leather jacket. His outfit is what Colin Baker said
Speaker 1: he basically asked for when he was a doctor. He's like,
Speaker 1: I want a character who was like to have sex. No,
Speaker 1: I just saying, he looks like he's a man about tech.
Speaker 1: Like he looks like like a younger by the way,
Speaker 1: even though some of the other ones might have been younger,
Speaker 1: but he looks more like I guess because when was
Speaker 1: this in the nineties, never mind two thousand five, Like
Speaker 1: he looks like yeah, like like they're trying to appeal
Speaker 1: maybe to to this like younger. Yeah, what was the
Speaker 1: new show? It was in the new series was coming
Speaker 1: back from his doctor is the survivor of the time war,
Speaker 1: and he's in a lot of pain, and he's got
Speaker 1: like a kind of PTSD from the war and a
Speaker 1: lot of regrets and a lot of self loathing because
Speaker 1: of already did, which is why I think his outfit
Speaker 1: is so muted. It's like he and have time to
Speaker 1: think about what he wants to wear. He just throws
Speaker 1: on a jacket and a T shirt and goes way
Speaker 1: or a jumper um goes on his way. And he
Speaker 1: was only there for a season and Eccleston had problems
Speaker 1: with Russell to Davis, and he ended up leaving the
Speaker 1: show at the end of his first season and has
Speaker 1: not really been a fan of the show ever since,
Speaker 1: and which is why he didn't come back for that.
Speaker 1: But he will, I will say to his credit, he
Speaker 1: is very sweet to the fans still, and he actually
Speaker 1: did an appearance this year at London Comic Con and
Speaker 1: he or the London TV and Film test for whatever,
Speaker 1: and he like, there's a lot of great shots of
Speaker 1: him running into other actors who have played with Doctor
Speaker 1: and he's very cordial and nice to them, and he
Speaker 1: there's been videos once in a while to pop up
Speaker 1: or he's like send a message to fans who are sick.
Speaker 1: So he will still be the Doctor for fans, but
Speaker 1: he just doesn't watch the show and doesn't have the
Speaker 1: same investment in the show that most actors who have
Speaker 1: played it do. I think because his experience with it
Speaker 1: was so bad. Unfortunately David Tennant replaced him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, David Tennant seems to be this is
Speaker 1: just speaking from an outsider perspective. A lot of people's
Speaker 1: favorite Doctor. I would say that he and Tom Baker
Speaker 1: tended me that to the people are the most Why
Speaker 1: do you feel like David Tennant resonates so much with
Speaker 1: so many people? I think he's just very charming. He's
Speaker 1: very fun to watch. He's he feels very heroic and
Speaker 1: very dynamic. So it's very easy to fall in love with.
Speaker 1: Is he comed he seems Comedic's m Yeah, he's the silly, quirky,
Speaker 1: like goofy boy doctor and he's got a little bit
Speaker 1: of emo vibe to him, like like these memes of
Speaker 1: him crying in the rain, and there was like a
Speaker 1: love story with him and his companion Rose, which people
Speaker 1: got into. It is a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: like big shippers get into the show in this era
Speaker 1: and he's great and he's like he's like got he
Speaker 1: runs around in the suit with a sweeping trench cope.
Speaker 1: It has like a cape kind of vibe to it.
Speaker 1: So and I think also like he was the doctor
Speaker 1: when the show was voice starting to find its voice
Speaker 1: in the modern era, so I think he's like the
Speaker 1: solidified doctor in people's heads. Yeah, And before we move on,
Speaker 1: I do want to point out the thing that we
Speaker 1: went to break with that people are like, what is
Speaker 1: that question? He's going to ask. So you're saying that
Speaker 1: per Tweet had this like karate chop. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: this is when I was watching, and one of the
Speaker 1: big things, especially Tenant would always drive home is that
Speaker 1: he never wanted to use violence. Yeah, and and so
Speaker 1: like that was the That's why I like the Sonic
Speaker 1: screwdriver because it doesn't hurt name or something else. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they actually I will say that the most recent season,
Speaker 1: there was an episode of Doctor she used Venetian I
Speaker 1: kudo and she did it, and it's it's presented much
Speaker 1: more as like a pacifist form of web of fighting.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's done as like a defense fighting as
Speaker 1: opposed to an offensive fighting. And the way she does
Speaker 1: it in the episode, I love that she walked up
Speaker 1: to someone and just put her fingers against his throat
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm holding like basically like a pressure
Speaker 1: point move. And so like that's kind of how they
Speaker 1: read con that era. Since if he brought up the
Speaker 1: Sonic screwdriver, can you explain to people what that is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an expedition skipping device. It's a it's a thing
Speaker 1: that they use on the show to get the Doctor
Speaker 1: out of locked doors or like to hack into computer
Speaker 1: systems and things, and every every doctor looks different. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: because it was a really big deal. I remember at
Speaker 1: Comic Con this year to get the thirteenth Doctors Sonic Screwdriver,
Speaker 1: and I literally my dumb but was like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: I thought it was like Sonic the Hedgehog because I
Speaker 1: saw people kept tweeting about it and not even kidding. Um.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it must be like limited edition,
Speaker 1: but you got your hands on one right. A friend
Speaker 1: of mine, my friend Aaron Byery, was at Comic Con.
Speaker 1: I always up in Portland. I was at a Queer festival,
Speaker 1: comedy festival, and Aaron Byery got got her hands on
Speaker 1: it and shipped it to me from Texas, so I
Speaker 1: got it before it like hit the stores, which was
Speaker 1: great because they did not get my hands on the
Speaker 1: Funko Pop And I'm like really bummed about it because
Speaker 1: it still hasn't been released the mass market yet. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so every doctor some don't even have them, but everyone's.
Speaker 1: The classic ones are pretty similar looking what they're kind
Speaker 1: of like gray with a red thing, but modern doctors
Speaker 1: all had their own. I think the Eccleston and Tennant
Speaker 1: had the same one, and then Capolity used Matt Smith's
Speaker 1: for a few years before he got his own. But
Speaker 1: and then he's got this this Smith One's got destroyed
Speaker 1: and then he got his own that he used for
Speaker 1: like a season. There was a season where he didn't
Speaker 1: have one at all, when he used sunglasses instead of screwdrivers,
Speaker 1: and people did not like it. People were not happy.
Speaker 1: People don't like it when you really change your doctor
Speaker 1: who sometimes So where was I so David Tennant? Matt Smith.
Speaker 1: Matt Smith is the pretty boy young doctor. He was
Speaker 1: the the next one after Tenant. He was Steven Moffatt's
Speaker 1: first doctor as showrunner. He's also the big one where
Speaker 1: the show really broke in America because the show moved
Speaker 1: from being like rerun on Sci Fi to being aired
Speaker 1: the same day that the aired in the UK on
Speaker 1: the BBC. So I would say Matt Smith is right
Speaker 1: behind David Tennants as far as what doctor modern fans
Speaker 1: connect with. Oh, despite being younger and being kind of quirkier,
Speaker 1: he's a little darker of a doctor than Tenant's doctor.
Speaker 1: He despite being also at the time and still the
Speaker 1: youngest actor to play the role. He also has like
Speaker 1: this very interesting old man quality to him, and he
Speaker 1: feels like an old soul and is a little bit
Speaker 1: more and down. He's a doctor who thinks he's going
Speaker 1: to die, but he's fine. He also very much based
Speaker 1: his performance on Patrick Troughton, so he's very similar to
Speaker 1: Trouton and that's so I kind of like him. Um,
Speaker 1: Peter Capaldi my favorite doctor. I loved it, which is
Speaker 1: not very not a popular opinion, but I really like him.
Speaker 1: He's just he just has so much fun with it.
Speaker 1: He's like the rock star grandpa doctor is the best
Speaker 1: way to put it. He just like there's some really
Speaker 1: heartbreaking moments with him, and and it's a tougher era
Speaker 1: for some people who aren't who are looking for Like
Speaker 1: you said that the family friendly kind of like simple
Speaker 1: fun stuff happening. It's tough. There's some really heavy episodes
Speaker 1: in his run, and there's a lot of like inconsistent
Speaker 1: plot things that happened too. But I really love him,
Speaker 1: and I think Peter is also just my favorite actor
Speaker 1: to have played the Doctor because he just loved He
Speaker 1: grew up as a fan of the show. He was
Speaker 1: a huge fanboy from day one, and he just loves
Speaker 1: being loved being part of it, and you just got
Speaker 1: I just got that sense of someone just loved being there.
Speaker 1: And then we've got Jody Whittaker, who is is coming
Speaker 1: up in the ranks for me. She's amazing. She's the
Speaker 1: first woman to play the doctor. She very quickly settled
Speaker 1: in the settled in the role in my opinion. And
Speaker 1: we haven't got a lot of details about her yet.
Speaker 1: But how many episodes have aired so far? So far
Speaker 1: we've had six, and how much is supposed to be
Speaker 1: in a season? Do you know this year it's only
Speaker 1: gonna be ten. Usually it goes to twelve. But they've
Speaker 1: actually been there about twenty two minutes. These ones are
Speaker 1: These ones are about an hour, so they're fifty minutes,
Speaker 1: not counting commercials and breaks and stuff like that. Her
Speaker 1: doctor so far is a little bit she apologizes a
Speaker 1: lot more, which has been criticized because it's a woman.
Speaker 1: But I don't view it as much as woman saying sorry.
Speaker 1: I think of as character who is who has all
Speaker 1: this weight on her shoulders from what's come before her.
Speaker 1: Because Peter Capaldi's whole run was like am I a
Speaker 1: good man? And it's like I don't. I'm not, but
Speaker 1: I should try to be. And like the last words
Speaker 1: that he said before regenerating into her was talking to
Speaker 1: himself and his future regeneration, saying, run fast, laugh hard,
Speaker 1: and be kind. And that was the like the rules
Speaker 1: the doctor gave themselves. And so I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what she is doing. And so she's funny here. She's
Speaker 1: she has a lot of what Tenant had going on,
Speaker 1: the kind of like nnic nous and kind of like
Speaker 1: like getting distracted in trains of thought. But she just
Speaker 1: seems to have a lot of empathy and a lot
Speaker 1: of concern. Like there's an episode in this current season
Speaker 1: where the companions like to begin with with with her
Speaker 1: by accidents and like they got sucked into space together
Speaker 1: and then they got they found the tartist and they like,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get back to home, and she got
Speaker 1: them home the same day they left. But then they
Speaker 1: all decided to go travel with her more anyway, and
Speaker 1: she's worried about it. She's like says, like, I can't
Speaker 1: guarantee you'll be safe, and I can't guarantee you won't
Speaker 1: be the same. You won't you won't be very different
Speaker 1: by the time they get back and she's like worried
Speaker 1: about them, and so that was a moment where that
Speaker 1: that was very different because usually doctors like run away
Speaker 1: with me and how fun this will be great, Where
Speaker 1: she's like, are you sure you want to do this,
Speaker 1: and then they say yeah, She's like, okay, cool, come on,
Speaker 1: and so it's fun. So she flips on a dime
Speaker 1: emotion wise, but is very fascinated and excite. It very
Speaker 1: much feels like a character who had been dragged down
Speaker 1: by life for a long time who suddenly has a
Speaker 1: new lease on life. So for me, narratively, I feel
Speaker 1: like you can see a very strong thread of what
Speaker 1: was going on with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi's doctor especially,
Speaker 1: and what Jody Whittaker is doing now. So I think
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. I'm really looking forward to seeing what
Speaker 1: happens with her. I hope she's around for at least
Speaker 1: two or three more years, but I I'm curious because
Speaker 1: like right now, I think we're still establishing her. But
Speaker 1: I will say that it was it was very quick
Speaker 1: where I stopped. There's always an adjustment period with a
Speaker 1: new doctor because you're so used to the last doctor.
Speaker 1: Where it's like this person is not the doctor. That
Speaker 1: was very short with her, and by by the third episode,
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot that was supposed to thinking about it.
Speaker 1: So when they regenerate, she regenerated as like what we're
Speaker 1: looking at right now, like with her costume and her
Speaker 1: age and she picks her The costumes are not regenerated
Speaker 1: with the doctor. Typically they just like go clothing shopping
Speaker 1: or like fine clothes and pair they are they just
Speaker 1: like naked and they're wearing They're wearing the clothes. Is
Speaker 1: that what it opened up with, Yeah, she's wearing When
Speaker 1: her first episode she's wearing the clothes Peter Capalty was wearing.
Speaker 1: So it's and I actually caused plate as that look
Speaker 1: at this year Gallifrey One' an annual doctor convention and
Speaker 1: I went in the torn up blue velvet jacket that
Speaker 1: Peter Capalty have that I have my blonde hair. Is
Speaker 1: it like an emotional moment for who like doctor? Who
Speaker 1: fans to see like you know your doctor means it's
Speaker 1: a combination. It's sadness of the doctor you like leaving
Speaker 1: and excitement for the new doctor. Right for me, this
Speaker 1: show was a show about change. It's a show about
Speaker 1: the fact that you keep moving forward to keep adapting that,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, it has had so many different faces
Speaker 1: and tones over the years that for me, I embrace
Speaker 1: when it tried. Like this has been a tougher season
Speaker 1: for me to get into because of some major changes
Speaker 1: in the way the narratives are being presented and the
Speaker 1: plots are happening. But I'm trying to be It's tough
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at it now if i's as a
Speaker 1: professional critics, I have a little bit more detached from
Speaker 1: my normal just like wanting to love it, but I
Speaker 1: am trying to like cut it some slack and go no, no,
Speaker 1: this show is doing something different now, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: Likes it's a show about change. Yeah, So because I
Speaker 1: will say yeah, Riley mentioned, uh, she mentioned how a
Speaker 1: lot of times I only seen you know, I guess
Speaker 1: technically two or three regenerations, and they yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: They oftentimes say they're kind of final piece, which is
Speaker 1: almost like their goodbye to the fans. And you know
Speaker 1: when David Tennant on his regeneration, O, man, he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, Doug tears, I was done. I was done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah. He went on to do broad Church, which
Speaker 1: was which I hated him, which I mean like he
Speaker 1: was good, but I hated it. What's tough about kill
Speaker 1: Grave is he actively played killed Grave very similar to
Speaker 1: how you played the Doctor, which was so mean of
Speaker 1: him to do. Like he basically a lot of similar mannerisms,
Speaker 1: the same the same London accent because he's a Scottish accent,
Speaker 1: but he killed with the exact voice. He difference. That's
Speaker 1: what shook me. In broad Churches, he uses his Scottish Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love broad Church. He showed on our broad Church
Speaker 1: Chriship and is the showrunner doctor who now really yeah,
Speaker 1: which is why Jody Whittaker got cast as the doctor
Speaker 1: because she was talking to him on the set of
Speaker 1: He was already thinking of her. But yeah, that Joe.
Speaker 1: The story was that she was talking to him on
Speaker 1: the set of broad Church and she was like, keep
Speaker 1: me in mind. He wanted me to come in and
Speaker 1: play a battye or something. He's like, well, you could
Speaker 1: audition to be the doctor. She killed it apparently, which
Speaker 1: I can see. Um. So, Riley, you mentioned some episodes,
Speaker 1: but we I just wanted to talk to you about, like, um,
Speaker 1: well you wrote an article about the best ones for
Speaker 1: people to start if they're trying to jump in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote an article that was I wrote it last
Speaker 1: year kind of like as a preparing for Jody Whittaker article.
Speaker 1: What I would say is that if you just want
Speaker 1: to jump, this is a shell that you very much
Speaker 1: can just jump in with. It is not a show
Speaker 1: like there will be things you don't immediately get. That's okay.
Speaker 1: I have watched the entirety of the show, and there
Speaker 1: are things that I forget about or that I don't remember,
Speaker 1: or it's fine, and like also, it's not as good
Speaker 1: at continuity as you might think it is, and so
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are recon and
Speaker 1: things that are changed and things that are done differently
Speaker 1: each time. So I would recommend if you're going to
Speaker 1: jump in, either jump in with Rose the two thousand
Speaker 1: five like premiere the new Modern series, or you can
Speaker 1: jump in now with Woman Who Fell to Earth, which
Speaker 1: is Jody Whittaker's first episode, and you can just watch
Speaker 1: this current season and then maybe if you like it
Speaker 1: then you can go back and watch more, or if
Speaker 1: you the other episode that I'd recommend starting with if
Speaker 1: you're not going to do one of those two things
Speaker 1: is the Eleventh Hour, which is Matt Smith's first episode,
Speaker 1: because I think that, more so than Rose and more
Speaker 1: so than the premiere of any other modern doctor, it
Speaker 1: is the episode that most like. It starts from like
Speaker 1: a fresh beat and explains who the doctor is and
Speaker 1: kind of gives you the tone of what's happening. And
Speaker 1: I would say, watched the Eleventh Hour and watched maybe
Speaker 1: the whole fifth season, and that will give you a
Speaker 1: pretty good bearing of what this show is um and
Speaker 1: that I think you do the same thing now with
Speaker 1: this new season. I think that I think that woman
Speaker 1: fell to Earth and onward. It's a good way to
Speaker 1: start the show fresh if you need to do that.
Speaker 1: It's a show it's been on for as long as
Speaker 1: this one has knows that it cannot assume that new
Speaker 1: viewers are going to watch the entirety show, and so
Speaker 1: every few years they do try to make a jumping
Speaker 1: on point for new fans to watch it. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so I recommend if yeah, if your goal is
Speaker 1: I've never watched it before and I want to watch
Speaker 1: it now, and you've already listened to this entire podcast,
Speaker 1: not just just screened and yelled and ran away it.
Speaker 1: I would recommend, yeah, either Rose eleventh Hour the Woman
Speaker 1: Who Fell to Earth, and then watch onward from there.
Speaker 1: I used to recommend Eleventh Hour or Woman Fell to
Speaker 1: Earth before four rows only because the budgets and technology
Speaker 1: levels and thousand five are a little bit tough for
Speaker 1: new viewers. But I think once you're into the show
Speaker 1: and you're kind of invested in it, you get a
Speaker 1: little bit more like, oh, it's kind of charming, how
Speaker 1: Babby effects look. At that point, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: the show finding its feet isn't as frustrating because you
Speaker 1: already know, but it's going to get somewhere that you
Speaker 1: really like. So I when I wrote my piece that
Speaker 1: was like how to binge watch the show, I basically
Speaker 1: did the way people do with Star Wars, where like
Speaker 1: here's you can view it in this order, view it
Speaker 1: in this order, and I put like six options, and
Speaker 1: one was like just jumping fresh, almost like start with
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. And there was one that was like
Speaker 1: my version of the machete cut, which was this is
Speaker 1: ridiculous and I'll rush through it quickly. And you can
Speaker 1: read the article if you want to know more. But
Speaker 1: it basically start with Matt Smith, watch his first two
Speaker 1: and a half seasons or three, and then go back
Speaker 1: and watch Elston through Tenant, then come back with Day
Speaker 1: of the Doctor, and then watch through Kapa onwards. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot, but I think it's actually a good
Speaker 1: way to do it. It's just because it kind of
Speaker 1: like it kind of like gives it a whole new
Speaker 1: like now you get this guy and then you reflect
Speaker 1: on why he's so sad about time workers. You learn
Speaker 1: about these guys, and then when you get to Day
Speaker 1: of the Doctor, Oh yeah, that's the guy that I
Speaker 1: liked in This guy there together in the episode at
Speaker 1: the same time. So yeah, oh well that'll be in
Speaker 1: the fitnotes for you to look up. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I had to pick an episode, if I was, and
Speaker 1: this isn't based on like anything other than it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite, it is, uh, you're you're you'll know
Speaker 1: the correct one when I say, because it's probably one
Speaker 1: of the most popular. But what is it Father's Day? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Father's Day is great Father's Day. It's funny because you
Speaker 1: said Father's Day and on this list that we have
Speaker 1: from the Internet. Of the s episodes, there's a Human
Speaker 1: Nature and well Family of Blood, which are both written
Speaker 1: by Paul Cornell, who is just a really lovely guy
Speaker 1: and he really gets the show. And Father's Day is
Speaker 1: one that we talked about. You brought it up, Oh man,
Speaker 1: Father's Day. I have yet to watch it since becoming
Speaker 1: a father. Uh. And it's so just to give a
Speaker 1: little backstory Rose who we mentioned, which was I don't
Speaker 1: think she is, but she definitely is one of the
Speaker 1: longer running companions right because she was. She's not that
Speaker 1: long running. She's only in it for two seasons and
Speaker 1: then she has some resurgent parts. Um. I think Amy
Speaker 1: Palm was on for a little bit longer than her,
Speaker 1: and Clara Oswell definitely was long longer than longer than her.
Speaker 1: But she's I think, very enduring and very popular amongst
Speaker 1: the a lot of the fans. And also Sarah Jane Smith,
Speaker 1: who we didn't mention, who's a classic comedian, was probably
Speaker 1: the longest running. Were close to it, but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was crazy because it was with this one
Speaker 1: her Nickelston, I felt like they had this will they
Speaker 1: won't they? Especially Tenant when her especially happen and it
Speaker 1: had and you know, they had the whole thing because
Speaker 1: she had a boyfriend at one point and she abandons
Speaker 1: him for this doctor, and I think that kind of
Speaker 1: that kind of pushed it even more in that direction.
Speaker 1: So they kind of building this relationship. And then in
Speaker 1: this episode she goes back into time to the moment
Speaker 1: her father passes away, and this whole episode and eccleston
Speaker 1: is the doctor, not Eccleston, but the Eccleston is the
Speaker 1: doctor and this one, but the doctor is against her
Speaker 1: trying to change time, but she wants to change and
Speaker 1: there's dire consequences. It's a good episode to establish rules
Speaker 1: of the series. Like it established is why you can't
Speaker 1: change major reveents in time, and that's a good one.
Speaker 1: This actually, the most recent season had an episode that
Speaker 1: just aired called Demons in the Punjab, which is which
Speaker 1: I made a mispronounced. But it's it's a similar premise
Speaker 1: of I want to go back and see a family member.
Speaker 1: It doesn't quite have that dire consequence, but it's it's
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing of like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we should do this because it's your own history,
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a it's they go a very
Speaker 1: different direction with it, but it's it's fun to see
Speaker 1: episodes that use time travel in that way. The episode
Speaker 1: that number one on here, that is the one that
Speaker 1: most people recommend that people go and watch is Blink Blink.
Speaker 1: I think Blink is a really good episode of television,
Speaker 1: and it is one of the better episodes of Doctor Who.
Speaker 1: I used to say that I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: an episode to introduce a show to people because the
Speaker 1: doctor is barely in it. But someone made the good
Speaker 1: point that it's a good episode to give an idea
Speaker 1: of what this show is without hap to note any
Speaker 1: of the characters involved, because the characters out of the
Speaker 1: main characters of it, you don't ever really see again.
Speaker 1: So it just gives you an idea of what this
Speaker 1: show is all about from an outsider's point of view.
Speaker 1: It's a really it's actually written by Stephen Moffat, who
Speaker 1: went on to be the show runner for the show.
Speaker 1: It introduces one of the creepiest aliens of the modern series,
Speaker 1: the which were then later ruined by being used too much.
Speaker 1: It should have been used this one time, and this
Speaker 1: one time only, called the Weeping Angels and their whole
Speaker 1: thing is their statues, and if you're looking at them
Speaker 1: they don't move, but if you look away or you blink,
Speaker 1: they can move, and like they and then they they
Speaker 1: touch you, they send you back in time and they
Speaker 1: like feed off the potential energy of what your life
Speaker 1: would have been if they hadn't touched it, which is
Speaker 1: really creepy and weird. But they're very scary because it's
Speaker 1: it's it's just moving statues and they looked terrifying. They
Speaker 1: look terrifying, and the fact that you never see the
Speaker 1: move and then later on you show them moving and
Speaker 1: it ruins it. But when you see when they're on
Speaker 1: this episode, you never see the move. You just see
Speaker 1: them reappea, like like the lights come back on there
Speaker 1: in different spots than they were. So it really plays
Speaker 1: on the scariness of statues. And the doctor is not
Speaker 1: there because they have sent him back in time and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have as chart as And so the main character,
Speaker 1: who's actually Casey Mulligan before she was like super famous
Speaker 1: Carry mull again, Yes, sorry, I always do it wrong,
Speaker 1: Carry mull again before she really blew up, is the
Speaker 1: main character the episode, and it's like her figuring the
Speaker 1: mystery out and you get a lot of things about
Speaker 1: like the idea of like cyclical time travel and the
Speaker 1: weirdness of time travel, and it's a really fun little
Speaker 1: mystery episode. It almost feels like an episode of Black
Speaker 1: Mirror where it feels like it could be part of
Speaker 1: an anthology series if you don't know the Doctor at all,
Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, I don't know if we missed we
Speaker 1: didn't talk a lot about companions. That could be a
Speaker 1: whole thing. But companions are basically the people who travel
Speaker 1: with the doctor. In the most recent season they're calling
Speaker 1: them friends instead of companions, and in the Classics series
Speaker 1: they called them assistance, but they're basically audience surrogates. They're
Speaker 1: kind of the idea of, like, well, the main character
Speaker 1: is almost a god, so let's have this person is
Speaker 1: a little bit more mortal traveling with them, although there
Speaker 1: have been time lords and travel with him too, But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're basically there to be the kind of more mortal
Speaker 1: people to ask questions of a doctor and have Expedition
Speaker 1: explain to them when things were happening, and you know,
Speaker 1: mentioning Father's Day to give there maybe some more stakes
Speaker 1: to the story than if we was just one person.
Speaker 1: Is a companion always human? Not always like I said,
Speaker 1: we had the character of Romana, who was she's the
Speaker 1: time Lord. Typically Yes, I'm sorry. It messes with my
Speaker 1: head because they look human right most No, there's never one,
Speaker 1: with the exception of there was one season where there
Speaker 1: was a shape shifting robot named Chameleon. For the most part, yes,
Speaker 1: all the companions are are humanoid. Okay, okay, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any I think the only non human companion
Speaker 1: is Romana. And I apologize Internet if I've gotten that wrong.
Speaker 1: And if you tell me Rory you're wrong. Rory was
Speaker 1: not an autom when he was a companion the Universal's
Speaker 1: reset at the end of the seas. Yeah. Um, I
Speaker 1: did want to mention our giveaway that we're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we are partnered with Entertainment Earth. You also go
Speaker 1: and check out our Twitter feed because we have posted
Speaker 1: a giveaway which I actually have for Riley here. You
Speaker 1: get to open it on We don't have to open yes,
Speaker 1: but um, if you could tell the people what you're
Speaker 1: looking at, because is what they can win. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can win the candy doctor. I have this. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Now you have another one. Yes, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: have Missy. I mentioned the Master earlier, which is the
Speaker 1: the adversary of the Doctor that the the Magnetos The
Speaker 1: Doctor's X. Missy is a female regeneration of the Master.
Speaker 1: She was played by Michelle Gomez, who is Madame Satan
Speaker 1: on the Sabrina's Needs show. And she's amazing. She's so good,
Speaker 1: she's such a good she's such a good villain on
Speaker 1: that show on Doctor Who in on Sabrina, but are
Speaker 1: you talking about the new Sabrina. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: But she's so much fun and she's a little bit
Speaker 1: she's even more on hinged on Doctor Who than she
Speaker 1: has on Sabrina. So it's really fun. And then also
Speaker 1: it's a funco pop of Missy. And it's also a
Speaker 1: funco pop of the Tartest that had that has been
Speaker 1: painted for the missing Clara, which is a really cruel
Speaker 1: and mean thing to make. This. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: thing that they made. Don't mean things like this is
Speaker 1: a sad, sad thing that happened on maybe but is
Speaker 1: it like commemorative and some the character died and someone
Speaker 1: painted the tardest and her memory, So I will make
Speaker 1: my last pitch for the show because you asked me
Speaker 1: earlier the show is about and I said, uh, simply,
Speaker 1: it was a traveler helping out. I what I like
Speaker 1: about this show is it is especially in an era
Speaker 1: where so many TV shows and movies about heroes are
Speaker 1: are they said violent. There there's a lot of like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of always coming. There's just violence in
Speaker 1: the show. Dr Kaginal does have to like go to action.
Speaker 1: But this is a character who always leads with empathy.
Speaker 1: It's a character who always thinks that there was going
Speaker 1: to be a pacifistic solution to the problem, that always
Speaker 1: wants everybody who survived, everybody to do well. And the
Speaker 1: credo of this doctor. You know, Stephen Moffatt was speaking
Speaker 1: at Gallophrey one this year and he was talking about
Speaker 1: the when they created the Doctor, they go instead of
Speaker 1: giving him a gun, they gave him a screw driver.
Speaker 1: So they gave him a thing to fix things instead
Speaker 1: of instead of like when the Superpowers, they gave him
Speaker 1: two hearts. Like they made a character who is extra
Speaker 1: full of love and support and empathy. And I like,
Speaker 1: if you want to hear me, really, I already ranted
Speaker 1: about this on the query podcast, so I'll kind of
Speaker 1: even though this is a Doctor Who discussion, I think
Speaker 1: that I'm a better person because of watching Doctor Who. Like,
Speaker 1: there are moments in my life where I have seen
Speaker 1: directly that I have behaved differently because I behaved the
Speaker 1: way that I think that doctor would want me to,
Speaker 1: or because the doctor inspired me to behave differently. Like
Speaker 1: there was a day last year. I'm in for those
Speaker 1: of you haven't figured it out at this point, I
Speaker 1: am a transgender woman, and there was a day last
Speaker 1: year where I don't know if you guys have heard
Speaker 1: the news, but there was a big anti trans thing
Speaker 1: that happened where we were being like basically like being
Speaker 1: banned from the military. Not that I ever want to
Speaker 1: start in the military, but it was. It was very
Speaker 1: dehumanizing and a very hurtful thing that day, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to lash out with anger, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like frustrated in full of rage. Was I occasionally
Speaker 1: do I fail? I do that occasionally? That day I
Speaker 1: just took a step back and said, what can I
Speaker 1: do to help right now? And the doctor Who's and
Speaker 1: it just ended and Peter Capaldi had given this big
Speaker 1: speech about like I don't do what I do because
Speaker 1: it's easy. I don't do what I do to win.
Speaker 1: I don't do what I do because I want to
Speaker 1: defeat somebody. I do what I do because it's kind,
Speaker 1: because it's right. That's why I do it, and that's
Speaker 1: that's the only reason. And then just just be kind.
Speaker 1: And that stuck with me really hard, and so when
Speaker 1: that happened, I had a moment of like, what can
Speaker 1: I do right now to be kind? And so what
Speaker 1: I thought of was what's going to happen immediately because
Speaker 1: of this announcement, because of the backlash and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: is that people who are in crisis are going to
Speaker 1: need extra help right now. And there's an organization called
Speaker 1: trans Lifeline that is a that is a crisis hotline
Speaker 1: for for for trans people specifically who the operators are
Speaker 1: all trained to speak with compassionate language and to not
Speaker 1: miss gender people and to understand where we're coming from
Speaker 1: when we call and we need certain things. So my
Speaker 1: response to this horrible news story was to just post
Speaker 1: a thing like, Hey, they're gonna need money right now
Speaker 1: for these calls. Oh, let's raise money, and we raised
Speaker 1: I think we raised like five plus grand that day
Speaker 1: and it was like it just kept getting bigger and
Speaker 1: kept getting bigger and cat blew me away. And I
Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, I actively thought to myself that day,
Speaker 1: today is the day that I chose to be the
Speaker 1: doctor and and that's like so it's it's this show
Speaker 1: to me inspires that in me, and it inspires me too.
Speaker 1: There's a great moment at the end of the last
Speaker 1: Christmas special where the Doctor is supposed to be taking
Speaker 1: a man back to die and he's a World War
Speaker 1: One soldier and he just like goes like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: push his death back one hour, and he pushes it
Speaker 1: back an hour when he drops him off. And he
Speaker 1: dropped them off in the middle of the Christmas Christmas Armistice,
Speaker 1: which was when the German and American soldiers put down
Speaker 1: their guns and saying Christmas carrolls and played football, which
Speaker 1: is a real historical event, and like that was like, like,
Speaker 1: this is the one day in the history of war
Speaker 1: where everyone put their guns down and didn't fight. And
Speaker 1: that's inspiring to me. And that's what this show is
Speaker 1: to me. And so like, yes, there's goofy people in
Speaker 1: rubbers suits and there are dumb sci fi things, and
Speaker 1: for the most part it's just quipping and running around
Speaker 1: down hallways and running from goofy looking aliens. But there's
Speaker 1: just this message at the heart of it, which is uh,
Speaker 1: like when you mentioned you love uh David Tennant, David Tennis.
Speaker 1: Doctor always gives his opponents a chance to do right. Like,
Speaker 1: he gives them a chance and like once they like,
Speaker 1: he gives them a chance to save themselves and stop
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And then when they when they don't,
Speaker 1: then he will move against them. But he always gives
Speaker 1: them a chance. And there is just something about that
Speaker 1: that inspires me. And so I've ranted a lot about
Speaker 1: it now it's like we'll wrap up, but that's my
Speaker 1: pitch for why the show is so great in my mind.
Speaker 1: And if that speech gets you riled up, I will say,
Speaker 1: there is the when the Master appears for David Tennant,
Speaker 1: and that was there is a moment where he does
Speaker 1: that and it's so good. Yeah, So definitely check that
Speaker 1: episode out if you if that really got you, you know,
Speaker 1: fired up, and then do something dope. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: so beautiful. Ile, Like you're the only person that was
Speaker 1: like made me cry. I'm over here, like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: we should always have people pitch. But it's so That's
Speaker 1: why I love having someone that's so passionate about it.
Speaker 1: That's the best part of of Nerd Dumb. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: know we're going way longer than normal, but I just
Speaker 1: about this show well, you know, and again we wanted
Speaker 1: to hit on things. Even then we'll probably get written
Speaker 1: that we miss something, but yeah, what I wanted to
Speaker 1: I want to say that to that because I will.
Speaker 1: I get called out for forgetting things all the time.
Speaker 1: We move fast when we're talking on a podcast, we're
Speaker 1: talking on a thing. So I may have had things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to say or things that were corrective
Speaker 1: and I just moved on. And it wasn't that I forgot.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that I intentionally So if there's a there's a
Speaker 1: character that you really love and you think, well, what
Speaker 1: you forgot taught my person, Like I didn't talk about Leila.
Speaker 1: I just wrote a piece about Lela for Sci Fi,
Speaker 1: So like, there there's a lot of things and talk about.
Speaker 1: We've had to do that with our own franchises that
Speaker 1: we love. But also if if we did leave something out,
Speaker 1: just tell us why you love it like, hey, I
Speaker 1: grew up you know where I connected with this character
Speaker 1: and and yeah, least we have a show tweet at me.
Speaker 1: I love what I love about Doctor Who is that
Speaker 1: it's been on for so long and it's been so
Speaker 1: different over the history that two people who both love
Speaker 1: the show as much as each other might love it
Speaker 1: for totally different reasons. It's totally different eras. That's so fun.
Speaker 1: It's and it's so fun for me to hear people
Speaker 1: who whose favorite doctor is John Pertwee, and I love
Speaker 1: to have them So I like John bertswe not my
Speaker 1: favorite doctor. I loved as someone tell me why he
Speaker 1: matters so much to them. And I have a friend
Speaker 1: of mine who loves him because she reminds her of
Speaker 1: her grandfather. And it's like really sweet and that's like cool,
Speaker 1: let me let me hear more about that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say to do that note is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I noticed we get that all the time and
Speaker 1: usually comes from a place of like that's my jam,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to hear y'all talk about it. We're
Speaker 1: we're on the internet, we basically lived there, So definitely
Speaker 1: tweet at us and keep the conversation going, and don't
Speaker 1: forget the discord. I don't want any of your tweets
Speaker 1: about why you don't want johny Witwger as a doctor.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: We just want to hear about things that you tell
Speaker 1: me what you love about. I mean, that's just something
Speaker 1: I like in general. I think they're I feel like
Speaker 1: the Internet has become like hate has been currency like you.
Speaker 1: I think I've said this on the pod before, but
Speaker 1: like hate gets way more love, and I want to
Speaker 1: change that, especially in nerdom, and tell me why you
Speaker 1: love something, and and if you don't like something, just
Speaker 1: pass on it. Find something you love and share that.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Raley J. Silverman and on Instagram Riley Silverman
Speaker 1: and I mentioned we mentioned the top that I write
Speaker 1: for Nerdice. I'm doing the reviews for this current season
Speaker 1: Doctor Who. I'm also right now recording I don't think
Speaker 1: I can say the name of it yet, but keep
Speaker 1: following me on Twitter. I'm in a live play podcast
Speaker 1: of the Doctor Who role playing game, and I am
Speaker 1: playing the doctor. So that's that's an exclusive break. I haven't.
Speaker 1: We haven't been talking about it too much yet. We've
Speaker 1: kind of keeping it mums. So we're gonna launch it
Speaker 1: some point in twenty nineteen, so keep your eyes peeled
Speaker 1: for that. And I am uh one more thing I
Speaker 1: wrote for the honest trailers for a Doctor Who on
Speaker 1: Screen Junkies, and even if you've never watched the show,
Speaker 1: I think it really funny. And also if you never
Speaker 1: watched and you kind of want to get like a
Speaker 1: really cool quick overview of it, watched the one for
Speaker 1: Modern Who, especially because it really I think because the
Speaker 1: people who wrote on it, Joe Star and Spencer Gilbert
Speaker 1: and Uh, Lawn Um Harris, like Lawn had watched on
Speaker 1: the show. Spencer and Joe had never watched the show,
Speaker 1: and they still cranked out along with myself and Uh
Speaker 1: and Dan Merrill, who watched. He did all of Classic
Speaker 1: Who on his own. They had they had never really
Speaker 1: watched it, and it was really kind of fun, Like
Speaker 1: I worked with the guy with all of them on
Speaker 1: both of them, but Dan did most of the Classic
Speaker 1: Who on his own, but I worked with all them,
Speaker 1: wrote jokes for both of them, and it's a really
Speaker 1: good breakdown of the show and I think that if
Speaker 1: you are curious by Doctor Who and you don't know
Speaker 1: what it is and you kind of want to watch
Speaker 1: like a ten fifteen minute thing that tells you as
Speaker 1: much as you can. I recommend those videos right and
Speaker 1: you know me, you can find me at if you
Speaker 1: wide away On Twitter and Instagram. The discord is discord
Speaker 1: dot g g slash Salt Squad. We have tons of rooms,
Speaker 1: lots of nerd fam jumping in there having combos. Danny
Speaker 1: announced the giveaway there first, so if you were in
Speaker 1: there you knew. I mean, you still gotta wait till
Speaker 1: we do it, but you know it's something to get
Speaker 1: you through the week. Yeah, we like to have fun
Speaker 1: in there. I was gonna say so this week what
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the movie that I'm in drops this week. Um.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it last Ralph Breaks the Internet probably mentioned
Speaker 1: it one or two more podcasts. I'm so excited for it.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Yeah it's a big deal. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a huge deal. It hasn't fully hit ever because
Speaker 1: like people, I honestly, it's not I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it's not that I didn't think it was a
Speaker 1: big deal. It's just that I've been living with it
Speaker 1: for a while, and it was until people like came
Speaker 1: up to me like this is huge. I'm like, is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? I guess is it huge to be in
Speaker 1: a Disney movie? I guess, um, it just feels weird.
Speaker 1: We're also really you know self, I'm self critical. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're constantly you know, it's a very competitive
Speaker 1: city and so it can feel like your accomplishment. You
Speaker 1: can forget your own accomplishment sometimes. Well I'm here to
Speaker 1: remind you. Yeah, so check that out A drop this week.
Speaker 1: I'm currently in Arizona right now, taking my niece and
Speaker 1: you to see it because that's where they live. Danny
Speaker 1: is currently sweating me. I'm probably chilling like a villain.
Speaker 1: But also one thing I want to mention before we
Speaker 1: sign off, definitely check out our tea public tea public
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think that they're probably doing
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Speaker 1: there or B Square maybe I'll drop it during the
Speaker 1: Black Friday stale. I guess you'll have to pay attention
Speaker 1: to Twitter to find out. I love being indecisive. But
Speaker 1: you know, we learned a lot today. We learned about
Speaker 1: dr who learned that Belgium and Germany are not the
Speaker 1: same country. That we all equally at the same time.
Speaker 1: Everyone in this room, Zack in the booth as well,
Speaker 1: has learned. Which big shout out to Zach in the
Speaker 1: booth and our man Dan, the man producer, Dan who
Speaker 1: puts together the research and you know, produces the damn thing.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we're gonna end this the same way
Speaker 1: we always ended. I'm doing on a laptop, so you
Speaker 1: know it's time to leave. Staying there to you