1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: five and end of the end. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Zone for the touchdown. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved, Harrison dies for the en zone, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Touchdown, Kyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. All 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: that was nasty right there? Rights slam on the ground 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: by fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: All right, here's the way I see it. If if 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe can be reinstated, if the 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Vikings can play back to back games in Dublin and 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: London this season, if North Dakota can now have a 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: top speed limit of eighty miles per hour. By the way, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: how many states do you think have eighty eighty four? 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: For sure, I'm saying, what was it? 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Yes, the number one. The highest speed limit in the 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: land is eighty five and it is Texas. You are correct, Danny, 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: the Texas. Yeah. If the Rockies can be on pace 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: to lose one hundred and thirty something games, you know, 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: if Bill Belichick can sit next to his girlfriend's father 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: at the Miss Main USA pageant, and if the Rams 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: can go to Maui for Minnie Camp, we can most 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: certainly deliver this edition of Cardinals Underground poly podcast Aaron 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Urban and Danny Sirek, who is just itching to get 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: to Getting Culture. 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: It's a really good one and we're back on camera 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: this week. 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: That on to Alex So not necessarily in that order. 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: In fact, none of the above will really be covered, 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: except Forgetting Culture, which we can't wait for as. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: I don't know, I see a lot of those things 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: on the rundown. 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: As we are waiting here, we are in waiting mood 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: or mode, are we not? Ye? 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: Right? 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: This might as well be a waiting room. And then 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: when your name is called, your number is called, you know, 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: the light comes on and it's your turn. 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 5: But how badly did you miss your light last week? Paul? 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: You know it was sort of there in spirit, even 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: though it wasn't on camera. You're right, Darren, But right 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: now I'm just praying to the schedule gods. I left 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: the obligatory voicemail for Raj about the Cardinals schedule and 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: to be kind with the road trip to Cincinnati and 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Tampa in particular. See, really, this year's schedule for the 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Cardinals is about who are you going to play early? 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: And who are you going to play late? 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 4: And who are you maybe going to play Thanksgiving. 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Or Christmas for some people or Christmas? Right now? 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 5: Christmas was all announced? 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Was it all announced? The okay, catch up? 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: You got to keep up, Paul. 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: Christmas? 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: Wait, I've been tracking them here. You're right, okay, you're right. Absolutely, 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Christmas is okay? All right? So at this and the 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: International Games are done done. 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: Okay, we don't know Thanksgiving yet, And it keeps I 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: keep getting this vibe that Danny has a dog in 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 5: that fight, but I can't speak for sure. 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: Well, one of our opponents, one of our road games, 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: hosts Thanksgiving every year, So that would be really nice 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: for a selfish reason to just be home for Thanksgiving. 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: Is it a big deal in Dallas? Because I covered 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: the Lions for a few years. In Detroit, it is 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: a really big deal in Detroit. 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: Yes, it wasn't until I was out here for Thanksgiving 74 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: and doing friendsgiving or going you know with friends families 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: that I realize most people do Thanksgiving early in the day, 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: like lunchtime. That's not how it works in Texas, at 77 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: least around Dallas. I can't speak for Houston, but in 78 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: Dallas you don't eat Thanksgiving until halftime. Everybody gathers at 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: the start of the game and you're snacking during the 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: first half, and then during the halftime performance on Thanksgiving, 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: that's when you down and you have your meal, and 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: then when you're nice and full, you go and you 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: stay on the couch for the second half. And people 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: like to have Thanksgiving like eleven in the. 85 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Morning noon, so I like that game plan. In Detroit, 86 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: it's an earlier game, so you go to the game 87 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: and then the meals afterwards and you end up you know, 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: friends and relatives' houses after the game. But that's good halftime, 89 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: and it's extended halftime because usually there's a big performance. Right. 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: Don't get me started on thinking about greening cast role 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: this early. 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: In the year. Pond. Oh, no, we can't get may 93 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: We're not talking green being cast. 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: No, we can't get that device. And if you want 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: to get divisive about about a holiday, we'll talk Mother's Day, 96 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: right Darren. 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was divisive. 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: Before we started record, I told my wife at one point, 99 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, look, I don't want to say bad things 100 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: about the Mother's Day cards. But again now I'm sending like, 101 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: get off my long, guy, But like when you go 102 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 5: to the store now and a greeting card costs like 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 5: seven dollars, and I'm like, you know what I said 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: from now on? I said, maybe, and make sure you 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: tell the boy I want no Father's Day cards. Put 106 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: it all aside, and then we'll have a nice little 107 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 5: nest egg for whatever grandchildren that might need to go 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: to college that probably will pay for it. If you 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 5: don't buy me fathers, make your own cards. 110 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: My sisters and I do that. You can make a 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: pop up card. Although I will say one of the 112 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: best gifts we ever gave, although my sisters. 113 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: Would disagree for Mother's Day. 114 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: For Mother's Day, we were young, and we gave her 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: a shoe box full of coupons. So the coupons would 116 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: say like, we won't fight for the day, we will 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: do the dishwasher, I mean elementary school young And each 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 4: coupon could be used I don't know up to three times. 119 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: But they're effective. 120 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: But there were no expiration dates, right. 121 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: But if your mother has given you that we won't fight. 122 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: And she had, I don't think my mom ever used them, 123 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: but my sisters weren't happy that you could use them 124 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: multiple times. That was my dicision. 125 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: That's tough. 126 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: You know what, if you guys are getting shopping advice 127 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: from yours truly, then really it's a bad day for 128 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: the both of you. What are you guys even thinking? 129 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: Don't make your own card and don't and seven dollars 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: per card? Just go to the dollar store. They have 131 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: tons of cards dollar dollar twenty five somewhere less than 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: a dollar. I know because I walked in last week 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: and I bought like five of them. They were so cheap. 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, this one could be good, this one 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: could be good. Maybe the kids will like this one. 136 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: I actually got one from the dog. I violated my 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: own role. 138 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: No got his own card. 139 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: Because it was like sixty cents. 140 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: Okay, but here's the deal beyond the price of the card. 141 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: And I'm a writer by trade. 142 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: And being a smart shop earns me the. 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 5: Light beyond beyond the price of the card. 144 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: All right, that was still serving. 145 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: If all you're doing is having this card that you 146 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 5: paid whatever you paid, sixty cents or sixty dollars. 147 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm not overpaying for this car. 148 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: What are you writing in that I was at a muffler? 149 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 5: Is it heartfelt? 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: Yes, as long as you add something to it. But 151 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: there has to be a nice heartfelt inscription in the car. 152 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: Is it Mother's say that you guys are putting your 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: foot down on the Hallmark card company. 154 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 5: I'll do it. I'll do it on Father's Day, I'll 155 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: do it on birthdays quite frankly, even though I do 156 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: think birthdays should exist. 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, someone, someone in this department, we've learned, does not 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: believe birthdays should exist. But instead you should only celebrate 159 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: Mother's Day or Father's Day. 160 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm saving my disdain, my disdain and ir is being 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: saved for the rams going to Maui. That's that's That's 162 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: where I'm just really conserving. 163 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: All Australia Next year, man, I think I. 164 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: Have designs on the Pacific rim there. What's going on 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: the rams. We have to really uh, you have to 166 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: counter that somehow. 167 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: I'm salty about the international games. 168 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: So I hear the Cardinals have a banger of a 169 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: schedule release. 170 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: That's what I heard on Pat McAfee. 171 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, is that kind of an international term? 172 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Is that like the whole banger of and then fill 173 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: in the blank like bangers and mash. Yeah, Like that's 174 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: what I think of. 175 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: Okay, you're sounding really old right now. I'm like, I'm not. 176 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: I'm almost as as old as you parted. 177 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Should I follow that up? Should I follow that up 178 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: with TV HJK. I don't know, you know, just what 179 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: exactly is going on there with that whole terminology? 180 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 5: Do we need to move on to getting cultured right now? 181 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Like? Man, well, here's the other if if the NFL 182 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: can turn the whole schedule release into a three hour 183 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: prime time show, it can't A will, but it can't. 184 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: They will and they are. And there's almost as many 185 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: platforms as there are games this year in the NFL. 186 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: So I mean you got to you gotta have like 187 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of where and when 188 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: and how and what country NFL games are appearing and 189 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: being televised, and you know what, that's good for business. 190 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: That's exactly why Roger Goodell drew it up. 191 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: It is a business. It's why one day this week, 192 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: Fox was announcing their games on television and then ABC 193 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: got to announce a game that Amazon primes. It's not 194 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: all just happening at once. Now they're making a hold 195 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: to do about the whole week, just first schedule release, 196 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: which shows you that people care. Right, It might seem silly, 197 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: but the fact that they're doing it says that numbers 198 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: are proving it's effective. So people really want football when 199 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: you've gone a couple of months without it. I am 200 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: salty that the Cardinals do not have an international game, 201 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: especially when the Vikings have two. Why do they get 202 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 4: two and we get none? 203 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: Oh? Can I answer that? Because they won fourteen games 204 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: last year and didn't host a home playoff game. And 205 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: I don't know much, but I know this much. Home 206 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: playoff games in the NFL are very lucrative, and so 207 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm guessing the Wilf family said, hey, throw us a 208 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: bone over here. We won fourteen games, didn't get a 209 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: home playoff game. We want the international games. We want 210 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: to market. We want to be able to bring our 211 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: fans overseas, and you know the whole thing that goes 212 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: along within international games and why they're coveted by NFL team. 213 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: So Roger did a ma solid. 214 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 5: And I will say the only thing I'm going to 215 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: say to that is, let's make clear that the Cardinals 216 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 5: only had one opportunity to have an overseas game. It's 217 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 5: not like there's eight overseas games and you can have 218 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 5: whatever they could put whoever wherever you have to be 219 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 5: playing a road game at whatever team was given these 220 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 5: these games. And the only team that the Cardinals visit 221 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 5: this year that had an international game as a home 222 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: game were the Colts. So there was one chance, one opportunity. 223 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: I really thought it was going to be the Cardinals. 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: They can capture it. 225 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's been since twenty twenty one in Mexico City, 226 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: which was supposed to be a twenty twenty game for 227 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: the Cardinals. Yes, I was just surprised that they weren't 228 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: selected as a team against Indianapolis. 229 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: Trust me, I wanted to go to Berlin myself, but 230 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: alas we will instead go have some shrimp cocktail in 231 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: downtown Indianapolis, which a place that I go every year 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: for twenty five years. 233 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. 234 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I know who to ask, but I've been there. 235 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: It's different when you're there for the combine versus going there. Good. 236 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. So look, by the time some people are 237 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: consuming this addition of Cardinals Underground, brought to you by 238 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Pacific Office Automation, the schedule might be out. But once again, uh, 239 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: nobody really asked. But it doesn't really matter. I'm just 240 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: here to tell you there are certain teams you want 241 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: to play early, and there are certain teams you want 242 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: to play late. For example, you want to play New 243 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: Orleans as soon as possible. If they're going with Tyler 244 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: Shook and they got a brand new head coach, a 245 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: rookie head coach, and Kellen Moore. Okay, Jacksonville with the 246 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: first time head coach, first time coordinators. I mean Jacksonville 247 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: is what twenty nine year old OC three or four 248 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: years ago was an assistant to the head coach and 249 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: in charge of special projects. So these guys are going 250 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: to be learning on the job. You want jacksone like 251 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: that was. 252 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: An indirect shot at Nick Ralis, who was young and 253 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 5: did a pretty good job when he stepped into coordinating. 254 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Was a position coach for many years before. He was about, 255 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: how about Tennessee with cam Ward Right, you want to 256 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: play them early? 257 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: How about Tampa? You want to go to Tampa early? 258 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Paul absolutely not. Friz factor, don't want that. And and 259 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: then there's laps out. There's there's Cincinnati and Zach Taylor 260 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: and his record in the first month of the season 261 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: is seven fourteen and one the last two years. They 262 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: we have Trey Hendrickson the Bengals to start of one 263 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: and four to one and three, and Trey Hendrickson confirming 264 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: to the media he has beef with his head coach. 265 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: Not good. Uh, we'll see how that turns out. And 266 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: then there's the matter of Dallas. Danny, do you want 267 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: to play Dallas early? I know you want him on Thanksgiving? 268 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: But what about the Cowboys early? They have a first 269 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: year head coach of Brian Schottenheimer. And yeah, just saying, 270 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: although Dallas is getting the Marquee season opener at Philadelphia, I'm. 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 4: Surprised that wasn't Washington in Philadelphia. At this point, the 272 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: ratings for Washington would still be high just based off 273 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 4: the season they had in the hype around Jane Daniels. 274 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: I was a little surprised that the Cowboys got that 275 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: Week one again the Eagles. You know what you say 276 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: that Paul Seawanheimer has been with the Cowboys. It's not 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: like he's unfamiliar with the staff, with the quarterback, with 278 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: the pieces they. 279 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: Have, and Paul's perfect schedule. We play first year head 280 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: coaches like eight weeks in a row, it's right. 281 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: And then you play the Niners late because they're always 282 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: injured and they're a shell of a team by the 283 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: time you get to December, so you want the Niners late. 284 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: And then, honestly, I don't want to really want any 285 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: part of Jordan Love or c J. Stroud or the Rams. 286 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: You know, Sean McVay. We don't sweat Sean McVay. What 287 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: am I saying there? And then there's Seattle. I don't 288 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: know what to make of Seattle. Very interesting Seattle. There's 289 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: a hot I wouldn't even say it's a hot take. 290 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: It's their longtime beat reporter in Seattle who's reporting that 291 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker might be in the crosshairs going into the 292 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: final year of his contract, and they want a more 293 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: of a north south run game. They're going with the 294 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: outside zone Clint Kubiak from the Kyle Shanahan tree, and 295 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: they might be more apt to go with Zach Charbonnay 296 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: due in part to games like he had against the 297 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Cardinals a year ago where he just one cut go 298 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: north and south, and they feel like Kenneth Walker is 299 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: running around looking for the home run, the chunk run 300 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: all the time, and they just want to, you know, 301 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: move the chains and get north and south. And he 302 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: averaged more than a half yard per carry better than 303 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. 304 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: We'll see Wednesday five o'clock Arizona times when the full 305 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: schedule drops. 306 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: Correct by the ways and otherwise. 307 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: By the way. Some of the the off season video 308 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: mikel Williams eleventh pick overall to the forty nine ers, 309 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: that guy could be a problem. 310 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 5: Are you talking about that dumb video where he knocks 311 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: down a overweight guy with a pad? 312 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, you're tired. 313 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: There's that, but there's that's nothing. 314 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: There's just just I can knock down that guy. 315 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: There's other there's there's also some other conversations with some 316 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: of the town. 317 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: Evaluates hypothetically, if if your team used a first round 318 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: draft pick, a very high first round draft pick, on 319 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: a defensive lineman that was vomiting during rookie mini camp, 320 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: how would you. 321 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 5: Feel that wasn't here? 322 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: It was not here up north in Cleveland. You guys 323 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: can see that video of Mason Graham vomiting helmet. 324 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: No, oh, my goodness? Really? 325 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: Yes? 326 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, I don't think any rookie in 327 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals camp made that sort of impression, good or bad. 328 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Any takeaways from what we've seen and what we know 329 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: of the Cardinals rookies arriving in Arizona so far, I'll 330 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: go first, Hayden Connor is a heck of an interview. Yes, 331 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: that entire offensive line room is a heck of an interview. 332 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: I shared this with Darren earlier off air, Danny that 333 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: if we're looking for money, content and content is always king. 334 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: We need to figure out a way to have a 335 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: podcast with offensive lineman on this team. Every single guys 336 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: in unbelievable. 337 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: They would all be broke. They find each other when 338 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: they have to do media. 339 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 5: You phrase, it is money content. I told Paul, I'm like, 340 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: how are we gonna where's the money coming from for 341 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: that content? 342 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: Good question. What was Paul's answer? 343 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: Well, we you know we hand or hand in sales. 344 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: You know we're gonna we're gonna discuss some do some guy. 345 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: Some guy sold the Maui mini camp for the Rams. 346 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: Let's get on it. Let's sell an offensive line podcast A. Right, 347 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: I can't think of everything, right, I mean, you know 348 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: you guys, somebody else bring it Home's execution. 349 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: Guy, right, Mayo to Tuna Fish? 350 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: What else? What else is about the rookies showing up 351 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: that you like or has stood out? And he's sort 352 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: of other interviews. I mean, honestly, I think it's some 353 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: of the year. Two guys who are stilling the headlines, 354 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: you know, Darius Robinson and Marvin Harrison Junior winning the 355 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: off season. 356 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 5: Right, Although it was funny I talked to I was 357 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: at Mac Wilson's charity basketball game over the weekend and 358 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 5: I go to Daris a little bit and because I 359 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: was asking him all like you look, you look chiseled, 360 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: and he's like yeah, and he goes, well, me and 361 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 5: me and Marv have been at the facility basically every 362 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 5: day since the season ended. But he said his weight 363 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: hasn't changed at all. He's just got lean muscle now 364 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 5: instead of anything. He's still around to eighty. 365 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: Five, he SAIDs like it, like it? Okay, what else? 366 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: What else? From the from the basketball? Let's see Marvin 367 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: he can get up and dunk. Yes, that was impressive. 368 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Trey McBride easily just off two feet dunking with two hands. 369 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: You realize how ridiculous as athletes these guys are when 370 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: you see him in another sport and they excel like that. 371 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: Darren Hall can play a little bit of basketball. 372 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: I guess he was out there. 373 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 5: Okay, Mac Wilson can shoot. 374 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Darren Hall one of the dozen cornerbacks team. 375 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: There's many cornerbacks on this steat there are. It was. 376 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 5: It was a cool thing. I mean, I guess in 377 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 5: the end, you keep your fingers crossed when they play 378 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: basketball little. It was enjoyable. 379 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also fun when teammates show up to support. 380 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: There were a handful of teammates that weren't even participating 381 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: that we're sitting courtside. 382 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was. There was a ton of guys and 383 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: I thought that was good. And you know, ultimately you 384 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: want this team to be close and that's something Mac 385 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: told me. Mac Wilson told me after the game is 386 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: He's like, when I came here, one of the things 387 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: I wanted to do was do what I could in 388 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: the locker room to help the team get closer, because 389 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 5: he said, every good team I've ever been on, it's 390 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: been close, they've been so, I mean, obviously that worked 391 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 5: out well there. And I think, as Michael Wilson called Mac, 392 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 5: he's a connector and with his personality, you can kind 393 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: of see that. So it was very it was cool 394 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 5: to see. 395 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: You know what. It couldn't be any more subjective, but 396 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: the good teams that really excel and are successful do 397 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: seem to have that camaraderie off the field, off the court, 398 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: and you can't really pinpoint it. And it's, like I said, 399 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: it's just abject opinion. But I mean, if you think 400 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: of some of the really good teams over the years, 401 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: last twenty years for the Airson A Car, those teams 402 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: that I mean, they were tight. They were hanging out 403 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: the old No Fly Zone doing their thing. I mean 404 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: just you know, the Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, all the 405 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: costumes in the high jinks, and you think about the 406 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: teams that have done well, they have been tight off 407 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: the field. 408 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's natural. And again when we 409 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: talk about a tight team, we're not. It doesn't necessarily 410 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: mean all fifty five guys are always hanging out together, 411 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 5: but you have good cross section of offense defense, and 412 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't you know, you know. 413 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: When you have three dozen rookies over the last three years, 414 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: drafts and undrafted guys, it's sort of you're getting closer 415 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: and closer to the same age group, guys hanging out. 416 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: Not as many guys, you know, married with families because 417 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's a younger team that it's ever been. 418 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: So I could see that speaking speaking of staying young. 419 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: All right, Danny, you get your wish. Here we go. 420 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: Let's kick it to Danny for what should be arousing 421 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: addition of Danny will segue. 422 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 4: To you getting cultured. With Danny, it is not just 423 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: directed at Paul. 424 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here. 425 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: Yes, you got me very excited. 426 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: Now I am on social media and consume more at 427 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: pop culture than both of you combined. 428 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go. 429 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 4: Right off the bat. I'm gonna have to bring in conspiracy. 430 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: Calvc all here we go. Finally something I know something about. 431 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: We go. Here we go. The Dallas Mavericks have earned 432 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: themselves the number one pick in the draft for the 433 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: first time ever, despite having one point eight percent odds 434 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: to win the lottery. 435 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: That's eighteen ping pong balls out of one thousand. 436 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: Here's where Calvic conspiracy consults and comes into play. 437 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: Bring it. 438 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: People around the internet on the interreb think that the 439 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: NBA has conspired with the MAVs after general manager and 440 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: Nigo Harrison traded Luka Doncic to the Lakers supposed lee 441 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 4: to boost ratings for la pair him with Lebron James, 442 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 4: and then Dallas was rewarded with the first pick. And 443 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: the reason people think this is a conspiracy is looking 444 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 4: back the last couple of years. Okay, when the Cavs 445 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: traded Lebron James to the Heat in twenty ten twenty eleven, 446 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: Cleveland had the number one pick, they took Kyrie Earring. 447 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: The Pelicans traded Anthony Davis in twenty nineteen, the Lakers 448 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 4: the next year first pick Zion Williamson. Darren is awfully 449 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 4: quiet for an NBA fan. 450 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: I've just I have a hard time wrapping my head 451 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: around this kind of conspiracy. What would be the point 452 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 5: I saw Wolf arguing this on Arizona Sports. If you 453 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: really think it's a conspiracy, don't watch Go watch wrestling. 454 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: Who they're open about exactly how stage it is. I don't. 455 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: I think it's funky. But like as I've heard pointed out, 456 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: there was probably four or five teams that could have 457 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: gotten Cooper Flagg and you would have said, oh, that's 458 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: a conspiracy. 459 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: Are you a fan of the draft lottery system? 460 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 5: I I liked the reason they put it into place. 461 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 5: It's a lot easier to tank straight out in the NBA, 462 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: in my opinion, So I like that it got put 463 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: into place. I think it's gotten two sideways in terms 464 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 5: of how hard they make it for the worst teams. 465 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: I mean, you can't at some point, you've gotta you've 466 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: gotta make it. You just gotta deal with the fact 467 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 5: that you have bad teams. And I get it, But 468 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 5: like you've you've made a league where it's so easy, 469 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: where one or two guys change everything. So yeah, it's smart. 470 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: It's smarter to tank. It just is. But I'm not 471 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 5: a fact like I don't understand how the absolute worst 472 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: teams of league, the Hornets or the Wizards or whatever, 473 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: they're picking five or six. You want you want to 474 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: stop them from picking one? Maybe one and two? Okay 475 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: after that? 476 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Come on, Now, the NBA has two serious problems. One 477 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: is All Star weekend. They gotta they gotta, they gotta 478 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: redefine that. And then this NBA Draft lottery. People just 479 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: aren't buying it. It's just not working. And to that 480 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: whole scenario you just laid out, Let's see here, Luka 481 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: Doncic was traded to the Lakers without any other team 482 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: being considered. Hmmm. So if Dallas ownership said, you know what, 483 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: we're not gonna pay him the Mega Mondo contract, and 484 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: then that word got to the league, obviously I was 485 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: say on, just send them to the Lakers, will take 486 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: care of you on the back end. Do you believe 487 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: that there's too much at stake for the future and 488 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: the viability of the NBA to think otherwise? I hate 489 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: to say it, but do you think there's any chan 490 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: you think there's any chance that Luke ever would have 491 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: ended up in Charlotte. There's a reason why they controlled 492 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: the trade process. Are you telling me if Dallas would 493 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: have opened it up to an open bidding process and 494 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: brought in all these other suitors, that they couldn't have 495 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: gotten so much more in return than just Anthony Davis 496 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: and a few frivolous picks. 497 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: But I see, I can how can that happen? I 498 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 5: can argue with you that they knew it was good. 499 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 5: The owner says, get rid of them. No matter what, 500 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 5: it's gonna be unpopular. So you want to keep it 501 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: as secret as you can. And if you start opening 502 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 5: it up, it's not gonna be secret. And then then 503 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: you're gonna be in a position where the owner you're 504 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 5: not gonna be able to trade Luca because it's out 505 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: there that you might trade him, and then the owner 506 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 5: gets pissed. Now again, I can't stop people from thinking 507 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: what they do. But I just think that it's the google. 508 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I watched plenty of years with Kobe Bryant 509 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: where the Lakers sucked and the NBA did just fine. 510 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 5: So don't don't tell me they were all worried that 511 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: the Lakers were gonna be try. The Celtics had a 512 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: streak where they weren't very good. The Knicks have had 513 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 5: been the Knicks are in freaking New York and they've 514 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 5: been terrible up until like three years ago. 515 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: But it hasn't been from Malacca effort. Go back to 516 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: the David Stern draft where he's got his hand in 517 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: the hopper and he's searching for the frozen envelope. Because 518 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: that frozen envelope is Patrick Ewing going to the Knicks. Oh, 519 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: I found it, and boom, Patrick Ewen goes in the next. 520 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: We're getting the pin wheel out there from let's move on, okay, 521 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: next on getting culture. Pope Leo, I've heard of him. 522 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: I got yelled at in a room by Darren last 523 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 4: week because I randomly whipped around in my chair and 524 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: started asking questions and Darren said, hold it, hold it, 525 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: hold it. That is a great getting cultured point. So 526 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: I've been sitting on my questions for a week, which 527 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: is this, Logistically, how does it work when you get 528 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: a new pope? 529 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Right? 530 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: What if he had doctor's appointments or things schedule with friends? 531 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: Who packs up all of his belongings? 532 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: Right? 533 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: He went He went to the Vatican, probably not thinking 534 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: he was going to stay as the pope. So does 535 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 4: that mean he no longer gets Thanksgiving or Christmas at 536 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: home in Chicago. These are the questions that I have 537 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: that I wasn't allowed to ask last week to Darren, the. 538 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: Pope can move around. There was a pulpobile that you 539 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 5: have to have a pulpmobile if you're gonna be mobile. 540 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: Catholicism is not my strong suit. 541 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: So I mean he doesn't. 542 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm asking questions. 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: That I have. 544 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't have a four hundred million dollar 545 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: luxury plane, but he does have the ability to move 546 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: anywhere he wants as the leader of the Catholic Church. 547 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, the white smoke isn't coming out of the 548 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: smoke stack until the new Pope is good and ready. 549 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: So so then so yeah he can. He can bounce 550 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 5: back to the apartment and grab his Paul Konerko jersey 551 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: from two thousand and five. 552 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: That's all right. I mean, you know, he's the Pope 553 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: for the most part. I think they do live a 554 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: life of austerity, right, and you know they give what 555 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: they have to charity. 556 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: The biggest win for White Sox fans in decades. 557 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the Rockies once again tracking to outdo the 558 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: what the White Sox did last year and end up 559 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: on the power, poling incompetence. 560 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: Well you both have now been cultured. 561 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: You're welcome, all right, well done, well done. That was 562 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: worth the weight. Let's hope the schedule is worth the 563 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: weight that it was for getting cultured with Danny. By 564 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: the way, in terms of the rookie impressions, was there 565 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: anybody out there, I don't know who sort of looked 566 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: the part. I mean, it's hard not to look at 567 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: agents zero, just with the jersey on Will Johnson and 568 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: not see the possibilities at least I do with him 569 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: competing for a starting job right out of the gate. 570 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 2: I just think he is going to be a factor 571 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: on the depth chart from day one, Will Johnson, especially 572 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: if he is indeed such a good scheme fit. And 573 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: it was interesting what Drew stan said on the Red 574 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: Sea Report this week that you look at his last 575 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: two defensive coordinators at Michigan Wink Martindale, who supposedly runs 576 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: really complex NFL caliber defensive scheme, so if he mastered that, 577 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: he shouldn't have much problem, you know, really mastering the 578 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Nick Ross JG system. And then before that he had 579 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, who is now the NFL defensive coordinator for 580 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: Jim Harball with the Chargers. So anyway, you talk and 581 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: then you talk about some of these guys who have 582 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: already played sixteen game college seasons. Denzel Burke, Cody Simon, 583 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Hayden Connor, all playing sixteen game seasons. I mean, there 584 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: ain't no stinking rookie wall anymore. These guys seem to 585 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: be as NFL ready as ever. 586 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 5: Well, there is NFL ready in terms of length of season. 587 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 5: That doesn't necessarily mean they're ready in terms of talent 588 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: level or ability to play right away. But I mean 589 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: we're gonna see, like Hayden Connor, I'd be surprised if 590 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 5: he's getting snaps this year, Denzel Burke somebody, I'm really 591 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: I mean, we've talked about Cody Simon, Denzel Burke, somebody 592 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: I'm really curious about, Like, does that kind of playing 593 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: time really impact what he could do coming in? I 594 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, they've drafted a lot of high 595 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: cornerbacks higher than the fifth round where Denzel Burke was picked, 596 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 5: and you just talked about Will Johnson. I'm like, there's 597 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 5: only so much playing time to go around. 598 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: This is sort of the in Seinfeld terms. Did you 599 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: ever watch much Seinfeld, Danny, I did because. 600 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: That is my dad's favorite show. He could quote you 601 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: every single episode. 602 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: This is sort of the perfect girlfriend face where every 603 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: single rookie on the list is like perfect, right, every 604 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: single rookie is gonna come in and be a pro bowler, 605 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: Hall of famer. You talk about every guy making an impact. 606 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: You could make a case an argument for every single 607 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: draft pick. It's sort of the old Seinfeld episode where 608 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: there was that early stages of dating, right, and the 609 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: girlfriend is perfect because you haven't figured out or realized 610 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: all the flaws yet. 611 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: It's true. 612 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: So we're gonna bash on Mother's Day and then we're 613 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: gonna blame the girlfriend for maybe why a relationship doesn't 614 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: work out. 615 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I was trying to I was trying to think, like, 616 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: if you're going to talk in terms of like TV 617 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: shows or movies everyone has seen. 618 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: Wait, how did we bash Mother's Day? I bashed the 619 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: card industry? 620 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: You know, I could bash those participating like a couple 621 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: of teenagers who are underwhelming in their efforts and their 622 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: old man had to pick them up on Saturday night. Yeah. 623 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: I think this should be open to the poll of 624 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: the people, like as parents, like at what point do 625 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: your kids need to take over their either Mother's Day 626 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: or Father's Day to their own. 627 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: It's my sisters and I who deal with the gifts 628 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: and the dinner reservation and all that stuff for our mom. 629 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: You should, but you're also well past I mean, I 630 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 5: would hope. Oh well, I mean, you're just gonna stop 631 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: right there, Darren. 632 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: How many times have you said the words she's your mom, 633 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 2: not mine? I just I get that feeling. 634 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever said that. 635 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm trying. I will say a role 636 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: play you holding them account. 637 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: I had to text them because they didn't let mom 638 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: know what was going on for Mother's Day, and she 639 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 5: kept saying, are they doing anything? I don't know? 640 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 641 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: Okay, Sorry, I derailed us. 642 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: Looking at the whole Jordan Birch situation, I'm just gonna 643 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: throw that out there real quick. Danny, you had a 644 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: chance to sit down in this studio and talk to 645 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: the Cardinals third round pickout Oregon? What stood out? What 646 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: would you come away with after talking to Jordan Birch. 647 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: You can tell from Birch and from all of the rookies, 648 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 4: the only expectation that has been set to them is 649 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: to do what you're asked. That's very clear when you 650 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: ask one of them, are what are the expectations for 651 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: you throughout rookie mini camp, right throughout this offseason program. 652 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: It's do what I'm told, show up every day and 653 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: so has That was clearly drilled into their minds day one, 654 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: and that's the mentality is to come out and just 655 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: because you were drafted doesn't mean you've earned a spot 656 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: on this roster. You have to go out and you 657 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: have to prove it and earn it. Birch is an 658 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: interesting player in an interesting position room as somebody young 659 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: who can come in and make an immediate impact. Josh 660 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: Sweat is going to be interesting to watch throughout camp 661 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: and we probably won't see much of preseason, but early 662 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: in the season of is that going to be a 663 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: true rotation or are we going to see more Sweat 664 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: and just a heavier rotation opposite of him from the 665 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: outside linebackers than we have seen in years past. But 666 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: when you look at this room, yes, there is veteran 667 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: presence in that outside linebackers room. There's still an opportunity 668 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: though for Birch to come in and make an impact 669 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: because the players that are in that room, have you 670 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: usually been used in that rotation base? So if you 671 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: can find somebody that can go and can and can 672 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 4: be a number two honestly opposite of Josh wet, that 673 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: would be huge for that outside linebackers room. 674 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 5: I'm fascinated to see what that room looks like, that 675 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: depth chart looks like after Josh sweat. Yeah, there's a 676 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 5: lot of possibilities. 677 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: B j O Jalar who was at the basketball game? 678 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: Was he not? I saw him there. 679 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 5: He said he would not be playing basketball. I don't 680 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: know if you'd heard Paul good move. He was still 681 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 5: rehaving good move. 682 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Baron Browning, Xavin Collins, Xavier Thomas mac Wilson Senior 683 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: when needed, will come off the edge. 684 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be needed anymore. I mean, 685 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 5: you still might want to use him out there, but 686 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 5: I don't think I think the need part, I think 687 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 5: we're past that right. 688 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: See to me and and and this is really just 689 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: just throwing it out there. But to me, I see 690 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: similarities in the body type and the skill set of 691 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 2: a Jordan Birch and as Xavin Collins, both around six 692 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: to five, almost both around two seventies or so. Jordan Birch, 693 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: I think at one point mentioned they might want him 694 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: to lose a little bit away get down closer to 695 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: two seventy and the two to eighty. Both guys can run, 696 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: and Nick Rawlss employs him as such. Zamon Collins and 697 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: I've mentioned this many times, he told us to the 698 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: end of last season, the Big Red Rage, he had 699 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: played six different positions, so I could see a Jordan 700 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: Birch on passing downs. You know what, kick down to 701 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: a three technique You're gonna wear and do something crazy 702 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: here one of these eleven card pick up things that 703 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: we like to talk about and have fun with him with. 704 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 2: Nick Rowlis Drew stand on Red Sea Report called it 705 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: say quarterbacks referred to it as a radar defense. When 706 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: the radar goes around, be be right, and the little 707 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: dots show up in different places. That's what a defensive 708 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: coordinator tries to do and mess with a quarterback. Zamon 709 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: Collins is that piece, and now I think Jordan Birch 710 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: could be that sort of piece and that interesting and 711 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: that thinking just because he can run and he has 712 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: a side. 713 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: Wasn't it the fake punt that we saw that speed 714 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: on display. 715 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: Not to mention he's also our new bestie. Win it 716 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: comes to jumbo goal line packages, either give them the 717 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: ball or let them pave the road for James Connor 718 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: at the goal line. John Gaines, just concentrate on interior 719 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: offensive line. No longer are you needed in that capacity. 720 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 5: I'm super curious to see just how Nick Rolis deploys 721 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 5: this defense. Is it going to be as have as 722 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: much trickeration as it has in the past, or does 723 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: it become more simplified because you've upgraded the talent to 724 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: the point where you can do that. 725 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: Yep, we're all the exotic schemes out of necessity. Was 726 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: that a need or was that a want by Nick 727 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Ross the last couple of years. Did he say, you 728 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: know what, we got to figure out a way to 729 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: affect the quarterback. And if we don't necessarily have all 730 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 2: the dudes and we're really injured up front two years 731 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: in a row, then guess what we're gonna have to 732 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: generate it via scheme. So the Darren's point, are you 733 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: more apt to rush for and drop seven and because 734 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: now you have the dudes, guys who can win upfront 735 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: one on one? Yeah, I think that's very plausible this year. 736 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: I think when you're looking at intriguing camp battles, you 737 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 4: go right to the defense. You're going to defensive line death. 738 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: What is that going to look like? Another position room 739 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: that has relied heavily on rotation in the past. You're 740 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: looking at outside linebackers, what does the depth chart look like? 741 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: Undersweat cornerbacks? I think is going to be really exciting. 742 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 4: And there's questions in your mail bag. It feels like 743 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks there and about Will Johnson 744 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 4: and coming in as a rookie and is he somebody 745 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: who can start immediately drafted in the second round. And 746 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: I think I'm not as convicted as the two of 747 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 4: you and believing that the answer is automatically yes, only 748 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: because of the talent we saw from Starling Thomas and 749 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 4: Max Melon. And I think that's going to be a 750 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 4: very exciting competition there of who you're starting cornerbacks are 751 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: going to be. And Cody Simon the linebacker, right, is 752 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 4: he going to wear the green dot? Is that something 753 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: you're going to give a Keen Davis Gaither who was 754 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 4: brought in in free agency because it's been Kaiser White 755 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 4: the last two years, who is not on this team 756 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 4: anymore as a free agent. So when you're thinking about 757 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: all the different position battles, the mind for me goes 758 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 4: to defense and then it's kind of pick and choose 759 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 4: where you want. I think they're all going to be intriguing. 760 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: And that's why I still think I don't know who's 761 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: out there exactly, but I still think of Manias and 762 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: Fort would be evaluating. That's why I think these these 763 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: rookie mini camps phase two going into mandatory mini camp, 764 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: it is valuable. It is telling in the following way. 765 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: Is a Cody Simon swimming is he you know? Processing? 766 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: Is he you know? Is he is he asserting himself 767 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: in calling a defense when you're out there and mandatory 768 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: mini camp and it's eleven on eleven at least, you know, 769 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 2: is he reading and recognizing and getting you into the 770 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: right looks and adjusting and calling the audibles and the 771 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: checks and all that as a defense. If he is, 772 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: then okay. If he isn't, then maybe you're thinking about, well, 773 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: who's out there? 774 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's something that happens. You know, 775 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 5: we're not going to know about that until training camp 776 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't see them making any moves now 777 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: until training camp. You you get this full layout of 778 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 5: the off of the off season. If you're gonna bring 779 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: in a veteran, I'm sure that veteran isn't gonna be 780 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 5: all sad if they miss OTA's and mini camp and 781 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 5: then you bring them in and maybe right before training 782 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 5: camp starts, or maybe even you give somebody a week 783 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 5: in training camp to see kind of where they are, 784 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 5: if it's gotten any better, and then you pull the 785 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 5: trigger on something that That is what I would anticipate 786 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 5: if they made any more moves. 787 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: But to me, if you had to do a power 788 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: pole or the biggest camp battles as it stands right now, 789 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: I would go with corner. Not only do you have 790 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: twelve corners, but you have at least five guys who 791 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: could viably start if. 792 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 5: See and that's when when you talk about camp battles, 793 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 5: I enjoyed those conversations. There's always camp battles for roster spots. 794 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 5: It's the ones where you're saying, who's battling for starting spots? 795 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 5: And that's why I like, and I agree with you, like, 796 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 5: I think that's fairly wide open. I mean, I think 797 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 5: Garrett Williams is going to get a lot of playing 798 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 5: time and probably start. But other than that, like I 799 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 5: do think it's wide open. 800 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned Starling Thomas who started nearly two 801 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: dozen games the last couple of years as an undrafted rookie, 802 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: Sean Murphy bunting, Max Melton who finished with a couple 803 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: of strong games last year. What sort of year two 804 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 2: leap is Max Melton going to take? Is a high 805 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: round two pick just a year ago? And then Will 806 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: Johnson and then Denzel Burke. I mean, you know, at 807 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: fifty one games at Ohio State. 808 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 5: Let me ask you guys this question, like what's better? 809 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 5: Is it better to when we talk about these starting spots. 810 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 5: Is it better to have a good idea who's going 811 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 5: to be starting? Or is it better to think, no, 812 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 5: this is wide open? What like for a team? What 813 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 5: would you rather have. 814 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: From the coaching standpoint? I think I would rather have 815 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: we have an idea of who the starters are going 816 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 4: to be. What they're going to tell the players is 817 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: wide open. 818 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 5: Totally different. What they tell the players is always going 819 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 5: to be which one? But like would you rather know? 820 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 5: Because you could make the argument it if you don't 821 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 5: know and it's and it's truly wide open, you can 822 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 5: either make the argument we have that many good players, 823 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 5: or you can make the argument we don't have enough 824 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 5: good players. 825 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: See. To me, it's based on the position. Like, if 826 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 2: that's a situation at quarterback and you don't know, that's 827 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: not a good sign. 828 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 5: That's no boy no. 829 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: But if it's running back and you need two, three, 830 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: four running backs over the course of a season, that's 831 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: really good because you need depth, you need a rotation 832 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: defensive line, you need depth, you need a rotation cornerback. 833 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: You could probably argue either way. You know, I happen 834 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 2: to think and we talked about this a little bit 835 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: with True Stanton, who was a teammate of Sean Murphy 836 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: Bunting's in Tampa. Yeah, his best position might be nickel corner. 837 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 2: You could argue, is nickel corner. 838 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 5: That was that was the kind of the line on 839 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 5: him when he signed here. 840 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: So well, wait a minute. You have one of the 841 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: best up and coming, fast rising corners in the league 842 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 2: and Garrett Williams. Unless Garrett Williams might see a little 843 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: more time on the outside. 844 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: Don't know, that seems unlikely going into year three. Just 845 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: how little we've seen him outside, But it's possible he 846 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 4: can play outside for sure, and then. 847 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: Edge like Josh Sweat, Okay, highly paid, highly sought after, 848 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: you know, once again cannonball, the splash sign in the 849 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: off season, Josh Sweat. Guess what he was in a rotation? 850 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 2: At least he told us sitting right here right after 851 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: he came to the Cardinals, he was looking forward to 852 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: getting more snaps as an Arizona Cardinal than he ever 853 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 2: received as a Philadelphie Eagle because they were so loaded 854 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: across the defensive front. But wait a minute, what does 855 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 2: that mean? Because we know Jonathan Gann and Nick Ross 856 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: like to bring those guys in waves and like to 857 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: have rotations. Is he truly going to get that many 858 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: more snaps? I don't know. I mean, he has a 859 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 2: salary and a signing that would say yes. But I'm 860 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: curious as well. 861 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 5: I don't know where to put b j O Jalari. 862 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 5: Like last year we knew he was going to start. 863 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 4: Are we going based off how he looked to training 864 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 4: camp last year before he got hurt. 865 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know what we're going off of. 866 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he looked good at that point, he did, Yeah, 867 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 2: your top sleepers, your top unknowns, go bjo j Jeli 868 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: would be one of them. Isaiah Adams, right guard, Isaiah Adams, Rabbit, 869 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: Trey Benson, Trey Benson, these are all These are all 870 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: players who could come in and earn a starting spot. 871 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 4: So couldn't we put Daries Robinson on that list? 872 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: Could do you have enough. 873 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: Based off the six games as a rookie? 874 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: Not really? No, I mean nothing concrete. I would say no. 875 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: As good as he looked in August last year, that 876 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: doesn't count. That doesn't matter. He didn't do it in 877 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: the regular season. So for that, Okay, it's an unknown. 878 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 5: Let's ask this question. Okay, taking the edge guys out. 879 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 5: Let's say you're starting a base three four, so you 880 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 5: need three defensive linemen. Who would your three today? Who 881 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 5: are your three defensive lineman starters? 882 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the depth chart here. I would I 883 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: would go a Dalvin Tomlinson. 884 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 5: I would I. 885 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 2: I want to say kalais but and he's been a 886 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: start of the last two years. He has started all 887 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: seventeen games each of the last two years. But you 888 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: would hope that he'd be more of a rotational piece 889 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: at age thirty eight. Yes, you would hope Darius Robinson 890 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: or Walter Nolan would be that guy. Speaking of unknowns 891 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: and sleepers, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols, what are you? J? 892 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: Collier? 893 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: What do you? Yeah? What do you have? Especially in 894 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: those first two guys who played a total combined nine 895 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: games last year? 896 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 5: So competition baby? 897 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean once again, how many defensive linemen can 898 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: you carry out a camp? The last two years it's 899 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: been six. You have eight keepers a piece, it's going 900 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: to be more than six. You have Darius Robinson, Walter Nolan, 901 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: Dalvin Thomas and Kalis Campbell four, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols, 902 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 2: Dante Stills, LJ. Collier eight. 903 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 4: Yikes, they might not need as many outside linebackers, right 904 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: if if you if you're if you want to keep 905 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 4: more defensive linemen, how many outside linebackers do they carry 906 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 4: last year? 907 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 5: Do you have that special teams as part of that? Though? 908 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: True? 909 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: Have they converted to a four to three and we're 910 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: not aware of it? 911 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 5: They might have. 912 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: Is the riding on the walls or. 913 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: Do they just want to have that ability, like for 914 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: example Seattle with Klint Kubiak, I talked earlier about how 915 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: they want to go with the outside zone scheme. We 916 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,720 Speaker 2: know how Christian McCaffrey is going to be back, and 917 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: you know, Karen Williams. You contain Karen Williams, you beat 918 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: the Rams. At least that's been how it's worked with 919 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 2: the Cardinals the last two years. So maybe they want 920 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: to have the option of when we got to go 921 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 2: with four and five defensive linemen at times based on 922 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: the opponent. We want to have the ability to do it. 923 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 4: We can ask when it comes to training camp. I'm 924 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 4: not I'm not feeling good about the fact we're going 925 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 4: to get an answer. Might just have to wait and 926 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 4: watch week one. 927 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: All right, Uh well, I don't know if that's considered 928 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: winning behavior by the media or not. But for other 929 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 2: winning behavior, here we go. Can you display winning behavior? 930 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 4: You have to consistently display winning behavior. 931 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: That's winning behavior. 932 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 4: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold 933 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: people to that standard. 934 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we already mentioned the Rams going to 935 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 2: Maui for Minnie camp Nuff said, right there, Travis Hunter 936 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: on a cool story on a plane, really cool. 937 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 5: He ends up he ends up next to a woman 938 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 5: who uh far be it from me, but maybe a 939 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 5: little bit of an older woman. She needed some help 940 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 5: with her luggage. He offered to help her with luggage. 941 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 5: She had a lovely conversation with him. Even better, she 942 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 5: had no idea who he was. And I always love 943 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 5: those stories where like the person they're talking to is 944 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 5: like completely unaware of like this guy, and oh, so 945 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 5: what you know? What do you do and what are 946 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 5: you going to. 947 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't part of the story. People were coming by 948 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: and you know, tapping them up and knuckles and congratulations. 949 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: That Jag, the Jags sweatpants that he was wearing, and 950 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 4: she asked me if he was an athlete. He said yes, 951 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 4: and she said immediately she told her sons she needed 952 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: his jersey. 953 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,479 Speaker 5: I saw somebody reach out on Twitter somewhere and say, 954 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 5: who knows miss whatever her name was that she was 955 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 5: being referred to, and have I want to get her 956 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 5: my tickets to a Jacksonville game. 957 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, and 958 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: his answers. 959 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 5: I do like Travis Huns. I do like Travis Hunter. Yeah, 960 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 5: and he also just graduated too, and. 961 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 2: Being the being a Jacksonville guy. I mean, that's exactly 962 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 2: what they need for the franchise. Right, hometown kid, serious 963 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: winning behavior. Right could revolutionize the game in a modern 964 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: way if indeed he's effective on both sides of the football. 965 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 4: I saw this online, which means it's only fifty percent 966 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 4: possible that it was true. Is it true that he's 967 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 4: going to change his number? Like change his jersey? That's 968 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 4: what I thought. 969 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 5: That seems he's wearing twelve. He's wearing twelve, and that's 970 00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 5: what he's gonna wear. 971 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 4: I did see that, but I think somebody I just 972 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 4: I didn't look into it. 973 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 5: That's fair. Jacksonville visits State Farm Stadium this year, and 974 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 5: you might want to check out the schedule release that 975 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 5: comes out Wednesday and find out when Jacksonville State Farm Stadium. 976 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: You know what was a banger back in the day 977 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: was the whole sports talk radio on Pete Rose. Do 978 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 2: you know how many hours I have spent debating Pete 979 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: Rose on sports talk radio in my younger days. And 980 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: now just like that he's been reinstated. Him and Shoeless 981 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 2: Joe really really shueless. 982 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 5: Show kind of got screwed over a little bit. Shoeless 983 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 5: Joe wasn't If you go and look and read up 984 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 5: on that whole thing. Shoeless Joe wasn't the brightest bulb 985 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 5: in the shed, and he kind of got snukred into 986 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 5: by some of his more advanced teammates into that whole thing. 987 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 5: Pete Rose knew what he was doing was wrong, and 988 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 5: he did it anyways. And I'm a little torn on this, 989 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 5: but with everything that's happened, and especially with gambling and sports, 990 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 5: it was inevitable. Plus most people that thought one way 991 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 5: about it back when it happened, and whenever that was 992 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety one, whatever, whenever, whenever the suspension came down, 993 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 5: most people are way beyond that. Danny could give a 994 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 5: flip about Pete Rose and what happened. 995 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 4: Back nineteen eighty nine. 996 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 5: Okay eighty nine. 997 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 2: My stances always Look, it's the Baseball Hall of Fame. 998 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: It's not the character Hall of Fame. It's not the 999 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 2: good person Hall of Fame. 1000 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 5: Bet On Baseball, just put. 1001 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 2: It up there, on put it up there on the 1002 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: plaque unless he did it during his playing days, enshrine 1003 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 2: him as a player, and put on the plaque he's 1004 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: been banned from baseball for life. I mean, just come on, 1005 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: just taking. 1006 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 5: Ourselves I'm on the other sports Hall of Fame. 1007 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: You're taking it too seriously. 1008 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 4: That would be an interesting discussion for any major sport. 1009 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 4: What would it take for somebody to be banned for 1010 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 4: life these days? I don't know that as anything. 1011 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a good question. I mean, if they 1012 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 5: were in the sport when whatever happened happening. 1013 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: Here's one. 1014 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 4: How about I mean NBA, who was it? That was 1015 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 4: just they thought that he was betting on games Eade. 1016 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 5: I don't think he did. 1017 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 4: And he was went to Miszoo. Why can't I think? 1018 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 5: I mean, he was banned for life, but nobody's gonna 1019 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 5: care about him, John Taye Porter because you know he didn't. 1020 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 2: Wasn't anybody well stand over there with Tim Donahey the 1021 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 2: ref and okay, uh you know it could get your 1022 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: band nudity on the red carpet at cans, right. I 1023 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: mean they say serious winning behavior, Paul, they've instituted new rules. No, 1024 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 2: they're just. 1025 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 5: Apparently they're just reiterating their rules. But there's been too 1026 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 5: many examples. I'm surprised this didn't make it into winning 1027 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 5: getting cultured. There's been too many examples on the red 1028 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 5: carpets of see through something or others and such that 1029 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: they felt like, Hey, I'm just the heads up. 1030 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm curious if we say that's winning behavior, okay to 1031 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: ban is that being a prude? And if you say 1032 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 4: it's not winning behavior, you pro nudity in public? 1033 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I mean, you know, I 1034 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 5: think that I don't think you're going too far out 1035 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 5: there and saying you're prude. If you're like, it's a 1036 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 5: red carpet situation, let's you know, trying leave a. 1037 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 4: Little imagination, little to the imagination. 1038 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 2: They've also banned voluminous outfits, in particular those with a 1039 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: large train, so no brides, No brides on the red carpet. 1040 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 5: I did see some of those at the met gala. 1041 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: Because it quote hinders the proper flow of traffic of guests, 1042 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: and it complicates seating in the theater. It's not permitted. 1043 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 5: Paul, You've been a part of many many red carpets. 1044 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 5: I've seen you out there. 1045 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 2: I mean, let's go, we got a traffic jam here 1046 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 2: because this, uh, this lady's train is taking up half 1047 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: the red carpet. 1048 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 4: My goodness, you know, a VC air traffic controller over there. 1049 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell you how many red carpets 1050 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: I've gone down in my day, and the train is 1051 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: always a complicated process. There's there's no doubt about that. 1052 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 5: Okay. 1053 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 2: Uh and then scorpion Honting. I don't know how we 1054 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 2: make that segue, but that made the list. Apparently I 1055 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 2: just had to bring this up. 1056 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 5: There's been some concern over one of our coworkers team, 1057 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 5: photographer Caitlin, who just moved into a house and apparently 1058 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 5: wasn't aware that there's lots of houses out here that 1059 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 5: have scorpions and she did not want to consider that. 1060 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 4: I wonder she feels better or worse after purchasing the 1061 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 4: black light because now she can see the scorpions or 1062 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 4: would have been ignorance and is bliss. 1063 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 5: Well, you were not around when the original conversation happened. 1064 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 5: Some Arizona veterans, myself, Mike hel Mike Chavez, we're talking 1065 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 5: to her about it. We're the ones who brought up 1066 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 5: the black light and that's how you kind of figured 1067 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 5: that out. And originally I'm surprised she did it because 1068 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 5: quite frankly, she didn't want to know. She wanted to 1069 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 5: go all Ostrich and stick her head in the sand, 1070 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 5: and she didn't, and now she's terrified. 1071 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 2: Some free advice from Calvis Consulting after too many years 1072 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: here in the AZ go and Google up certain zip 1073 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 2: codes in the Phoenix metro era that are known for 1074 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 2: being inundated rife with scorpions. It exists. 1075 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, maybe after Darren exterminate to your house, Paul, 1076 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 4: he can make his way to Caitlin's. 1077 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 2: There you go, that's right. What about what about the 1078 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: off season? I totally forgot about you. 1079 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 5: Oh it's been brought up your side, hustle. I don't 1080 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 5: know if she's going to hire my services, but I 1081 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 5: did say I would give her a one sheeter on 1082 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 5: everything that she needs, all the chemicals and stuff. 1083 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 2: Your secret concoction secret it was, it's real deal. 1084 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 5: But like I said, I'll pass along this information. This 1085 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 5: is what we do. We pay it forward. 1086 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: That's good, Okay, all right, well, you know the more 1087 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 2: you can do, as they say, So that's good, Darren, 1088 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: the pass. 1089 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 5: The speaking of the more you can do. Let's not 1090 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 5: forget to mention Kyler Murray has a celebrity softball tournament, 1091 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 5: a softball game on Saturday night coming into this, So 1092 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 5: that's May seventeenth thought at Salt River Fields on Saturday afternoon. 1093 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 5: If you're looking for something to do, and I think 1094 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 5: the weather should be okay. 1095 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 2: He's the star in more ways than one. Not only 1096 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: is it his charity, and not only is he K 1097 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 2: one QB one, but oh, by the way, he was 1098 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: a top ten pick in the Major League once upon 1099 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: a time. I in particular, I'm curious to see how 1100 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 2: he swings a bat and how far he can launch 1101 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: a softball. I'm guessing he's going to rocket a ball 1102 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: into the stratosphere. That's my guess. 1103 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 5: Does that translate what's that baseball to softball? 1104 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 2: Oh? Sure of course it does. 1105 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 5: You know. 1106 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 2: You know, I mean gotta be patient, hands back, hands back, 1107 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: wait for the that softball to arrive. 1108 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of patient, are we going to go an entire 1109 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 4: episode without something being deemed worthy enough to turn on 1110 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 4: your lamp? 1111 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 5: I thought he did turn on early for something. 1112 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: You're right, I mean, I. 1113 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 4: Don't want you to force it if nothing has deserved it. 1114 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 4: I just I want to know where the standards are. 1115 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what would be you know? Danny's uh, Danny's getting 1116 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: cultured was definitely a ding. There's no no doubt about that, Uh, 1117 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 2: that Darren's rant about Mother's Day. I don't know. It 1118 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: seems sort of anti American to turn the light on 1119 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 2: for that one a little bit, you know, And then, uh, 1120 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of liked my There are 1121 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 2: two kinds of games in the NFL for sideline reporters, 1122 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 2: games with a roof and games without a roof. I 1123 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: thought that was some expert analysis right there. 1124 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 5: That's true. 1125 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: By the way, there are two non division games without 1126 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 2: a roof, Tampa and Cincinnati. Okay, let me ask you all, God, schedule, Gods, 1127 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 2: please deliver as we get to the close here, what's 1128 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: the one game? And I'm assuming it's a road game, 1129 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 2: and maybe you've already answered it with the Dallas game. 1130 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 5: What's the one game? One road game? You want to 1131 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 5: know where it is, when it is? When it is 1132 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 5: we don't wear a shut up. 1133 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah Dallas, if it's Thanksgiving? 1134 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's. 1135 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 2: A good one. Let's see here. What else when it is? Yeah? 1136 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 5: Is it either Tampa or since it would have to be, 1137 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 5: which one, though, you've got to make a call. 1138 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: You know what, I'll actually take the Cincinnati col versus 1139 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 2: the Tampa humidity and potential. 1140 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 5: Rain, so you want to know. I want to know 1141 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 5: Tampa because it's very well could be our only two 1142 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 5: day trip of the year, So I want to know 1143 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 5: when we're going to be out there, what's that weather 1144 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 5: going to be like on Saturday head out to the beach. 1145 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 2: It's true. I didn't think about that. 1146 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Paul, I usually just I don't jump in 1147 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 3: here too often. But you mentioned that the Bengals game 1148 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 3: you don't mind the cold. Just a reminder on January tenth, 1149 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two, it's a Freezer Bowl game, a wind 1150 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 3: chill of minus fifty nine, so good luck with that. 1151 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 5: Well, we won't be there in January tenth. I feel 1152 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 5: good about. 1153 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 2: That minus fifty nine in Cincinnati, win chill. Just it 1154 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 2: could have wind chill. 1155 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 3: It doesn't meet on January. 1156 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 5: Don't you don't remember the Chargers Bengals game in eighty two. 1157 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, coldest you've ever been in and we'll 1158 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: leave it there. Coldest ever been in It was thirty 1159 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 2: three below wind chill Kalamazoo, Michigan. I was about twenty 1160 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 2: four coldest you've ever been in. Go. 1161 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 5: I don't have actual stats, but I did live in 1162 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 5: Alaska for a year, so I know for a fact 1163 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 5: it was damn cold a few times. I remember getting 1164 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 5: off the plane when I was five years old because 1165 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 5: we were moving there and we got there, well, it 1166 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 5: was dark. I can't say it was at night because 1167 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 5: I don't know what time of year it was been. 1168 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 5: Could have been one in the afternoon, but it was 1169 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 5: pitch black. We got it. We're outside in the in 1170 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 5: the parking lot and it was snowy and wind windy, 1171 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 5: and I saw my dad for the first time, and 1172 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 5: I don't know two months because he was up there working. 1173 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,919 Speaker 5: And I remember, even as a five year old, going, 1174 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 5: oh my god, it's freezing cold here. 1175 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 4: I don't have anything that intense off the top of 1176 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 4: my mind. It has to have been at some point. 1177 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 4: My freshman year, there was like a mini blizzard in Columbia, Missouri, 1178 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 4: because they canceled finals as I was taking my finals, 1179 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 4: so we were the last group and I had to 1180 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 4: walk backwards across campus because the wind was so strong 1181 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 4: getting back to my dorm. 1182 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 5: My fingers were completely numb. By the time we did 1183 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 5: the pregame stuff in Green Bay in twenty eighteen, I. 1184 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 2: Thought Danny was going to say the super Bowl. It 1185 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: was in Dallas, right, it wasn't that arctic cold. 1186 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 4: Well I wasn't outside for that, but yes, I mean, 1187 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 4: if you're talking, I guess in general, yeah, that was. 1188 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 4: That was the freeze, which is I was just saying this. 1189 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 4: It's so funny. I guess how different every place is. 1190 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 4: Texas does not salt the roads or do any sort 1191 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 4: of preparation. My junior year of high school, this would 1192 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 4: have been fall of twenty ten. We had some snow. 1193 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 4: Because Texas gets Dallas gets snow. It's not a lot, 1194 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 4: maybe like a couple of inches. Once twice a year. 1195 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 4: We got six inches on a Sunday. It was fully 1196 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 4: melted by Tuesday. We did not have school for an 1197 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 4: entire week because it took that long for the roads 1198 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 4: to defrost and the buses couldn't drive. 1199 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: And with that we come full circle because, as we 1200 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, Texas is the all out max legal speed 1201 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 2: champion of the United States. They have freeways in Texas 1202 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: that go up to eighty five miles per hour legal 1203 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 2: speed limit. 1204 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 4: I think that's on West Texas. I think I drove 1205 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 4: on those when I moved out here. 1206 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 5: Good thing, I never drive that fast. 1207 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: Here says other states Darren with an eighty mile per 1208 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 2: hour max speed limit. In addition, in North Dakota was 1209 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 2: just jumped on board South Dakota, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, 1210 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 2: and Wyoming. Those are the states that you can go 1211 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: up to eighty miles. 1212 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 5: Per hour and at least legally good to know as for. 1213 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 2: Whether it's when behavior in terms of your driving habits, 1214 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: you can talk amongst yourselves. 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