WEBVTT - Adventure Cameraman Secrets, Cobra Bites, Dog Groins + Warzones 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:11.840 Now now, Hello everybody. I am Jason Alexander here with 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.600 my partner Peter Tilden, And I know I always turn 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:15.280 that over to you. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:16.919 You know, it's like you got to give me the 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.680 big cue, like I wouldn't know. Well, who's you're talking to? 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.960 Your new to show business. Welcome to our show, really no, really, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.200 where we discuss the things that make us say. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.320 Really no, really, like the bell. Laurie, our producer, hates 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.720 that frigging bell. Really every time you look at a little face, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.600 by the way, she looks mad when she's happy, when 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:38.160 she's mad. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.159 So if I ring it one more time, I'll be 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.319 right on cue because today's show. And by the way, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.159 it doesn't matter where you're joining us from, if you're 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:50.800 watching on YouTube or the iHeart podcast network or Apple Apple, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.760 no matter where you're watching us from, I will tell 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.080 you that I take a risk every time I ring 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.880 that bell because our produce so Laurie could run in 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.160 here and wreak havoc. And today's theme happens to be 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.520 risk Peter risk. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.200 I know I was doing the preparation. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.760 Oh that's right, you were that guy. Yes, I feel 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.000 like I took a little risk coming in here today seriously, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.480 and I mean seriously. So it's raining out here in 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.600 Los Angeles. I grew up on the East coast. You 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.880 grew up on the East coast. Why can't people on 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.080 this coast drive in rain? What happens? Why did they 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:27.319 want to? 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:27.800 Real answer? 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:33.760 They're danger there there there anticipation of the danger and 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.160 the mayhem and the and the the shifts they make 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.040 and they're driving patterns and habits change so dramatically that 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.280 it actually causes treacherous situations. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.440 Your thoughts, may I say? First, if you've never driven 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.360 with Jason, he drives like a grandparent who needs to 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.040 have the key taking you What you know, that's sad talk. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.120 You have tacit with the grandparent where it's time you're 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.120 not driving anymore. That's not more. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.040 Number two, wait example that what are you talking about? 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.240 Like what I go too slow? Is that what you say? 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:05.360 Oh? 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.079 I go too slow? Oh so my wife is wrong? 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.000 Oh she says you go through fast. Yeah, she needs 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.359 she needs ten car lens between me and the car 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:13.880 in front of me. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.120 Another reason why I won't drive with you and the wife. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.360 So Paul mungjy In better known as Mungo cameraman for 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.079 the last twenty five plus years. Do I read this 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.720 whole thing this way doesn't come close. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.800 To cam camera guy. Give him the man has the life. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:28.920 Give him his credits. Tell people who this man is. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.359 To say he lives off camera his entire life, well, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.200 actually not true. He had his own show, but most 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.840 of his life he lived off camera. Tell people what 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.640 he did, Paul, we've run out of time. Paul Mungjing, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.600 better known as Mungo, has worked as a cameraman for 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.880 the last twenty five plus years. But that doesn't come 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.800 close to capturing this man's experience. He isn't a cameraman 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.079 working on a backlot of some sitcom stage. No, nor 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.600 does he walk around I don't like the way you 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:53.000 said that. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.959 But nor does he walk around with a news reporter 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.240 capturing the tepith thrills of a three alarm fire. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.880 No epit thrill unless you're in the three a long fire. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.520 Then it's Mongo experience. Yeah, Mungo is a bit more 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.880 extreme than that, way more extreme. He traveled over ninety 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.640 five countries. And by the way, while I'm prepping this thing, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.720 it's so funny. Any article they read hits seventy countries 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.120 and it's seventy eight country. Two minutes later we counted 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.480 this one. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.080 He's ninety seven countries. Filming for all the major broadcasters 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.600 with the biggest name he did Bear Grills. He also 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.080 had on Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller, Kate Winsley who can 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.760 hold her breath for over seven minutes nineteen and a half, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.720 Simon Cowell, and Charlie Boorman. Following his Demand and Adventure TV, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.720 Mongo has now stepped in front of the camera and 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.120 for the first time he has his own adventures on 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.960 his own show, which we're talking about. He's written books 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.240 and all. Let's let's say. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.000 Hi to Hello there, Mungo. How are you, Sarah? 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.000 Well, thank you very much for having me exhausted from 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.040 your credits, you look you're that guy. Were you always 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.200 in the dread like as a kid, did you or 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:52.840 were you the one who licked the socket you know 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.600 what I mean, put the thing in to see what 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.800 the electricity? Were your risk taker like for right out 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:57.200 of the crib. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:00.800 I never been asked that. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.560 I mean, I was adventurous and I was always very sporty, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.480 and I loved, I love always taking the risk. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:08.800 I loved being the one out there. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.360 I love playing rugby, and I think all my experience 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.279 was about trying to perform in the moment, so whether 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.440 you're under pressure. Also with adventure sports like surfing, which 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.719 I loved, it was all about you had to perform 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:24.440 in that moment. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.720 So yeah, so all the way through my childhood I did. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.920 I did some silly things, silly things, and I did 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.359 the tale right. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.159 Well, yeah, what was one of the stupidest kind of dare. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.240 It was my own dare to myself. That's how stupid 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:39.480 I am. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.160 Just the other day I was watching my son Gus, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.359 who's five years old, and he was tying himself to 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.040 the banisters of our stairs. I live in Bristol here 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.480 in a house which is one hundred years old, so 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.320 he got quite high stairs and he was just tied 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.360 himself on. Unfortunately I managed to get to him before 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.760 he kind of threw himself over. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:00.680 That's what I did. But I was a kid, so 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.640 he was literally. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.280 It was his idea was he was gonna he was 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.839 gonna lash himself to the banister and then hop over 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.000 the real to see if it went. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.359 Hold, because that's what he sees everybody to Tom Cruise. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.920 I have a lawsuit for Tom Cruise. Right, wow, and 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.800 so what do you okay not to break their spirit? 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.440 Because my parents any time they saw me do anything 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.159 cutting with a knife, they go, don't overheat. That was 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.279 my don't overheat was the line. Okay, so no sports, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:30.000 no running, don't accelerate. So you, being mister adventure parents, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.080 how do you have to talk with a kid that 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.360 doesn't break his spirit? 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.840 I let him do it, but I let him do 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.600 it safely. So for example, I made a conscious decision 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.600 to teach us, who's just turned the five, how to 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.400 light the fight, and and. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.840 So excellent parenting. They let me let me interrupterence. You 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.760 might want to just do ear muffs for a second, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:06:01.520 call the authorities. Five year how had a light of 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.080 fire in Bristol? And right, this is not this is 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.080 not this is not like they're out camping. He's the 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.960 kids hanging from the banister, and he goes, while you're 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.520 up there, let me teach you how to light of fire. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.400 And by the way, it's good that you take a 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.120 kid who's going to jump off a banister and it's 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.400 predisposed there to say, you know what flame claim next. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.479 And then and then knives of course, and then small 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.960 we're back with Paul Mongom. Sorry you taught him to 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.280 light the fire, and. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.760 Also things like using a knife, because I figure that 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.040 if he's not, if he's not thrown himself off something, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.120 if he's not trying to light a fire, he's not 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.599 if he finds a knife lying around, which kids do 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.960 you know, they find them, they. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.520 Can't see the draw, They pick out a big knife, and. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.160 I figure that it's worth teaching him correctly of how 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.520 to handle it, how to use it, and then kind 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.720 of give him boundaries and so far, so good. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.080 Yeah, unless he turns on you with the knife after 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.480 you lay down the boundaries my kids. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.920 When I teach my kid to use a knife, as 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.640 maybe when he turns thirty seven. So but you know, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.440 but that's interesting, you know, in reading about risk taking, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.160 the fascinating thing about it, and I wonder if you 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.880 experienced this too without risk taking when business and whatever 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.680 innovation doesn't usually happen, of course, so it's fascinating. The 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.760 guys who are not risk takers are not necessarily innovators. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.480 And does that resonate with you? Yeah? 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.960 Absolutely, I think you know, if you sit on your hands. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.880 If you don't put yourself out there and have different experiences, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.880 you don't grow in character. The attitude of all the 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.000 team that I work with has going to be a 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.880 kind of gun ho, but safely gun ho within perimeters, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.160 like I teach Guss. And it's all about having that 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.240 can do attitude. And one of the reasons why I 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:52.000 love working with Americans in America is that it's your 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.880 natural kind of can do attitude. Yeah, if my dad 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.960 used to say, my dad used to work in America 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.120 a lot as a publisher, and he used to say 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.880 what he loved was that the Americans always have a 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.040 glass half full attitude, whereas the Brits or the Europeans 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.840 will often have a glass half empty attitude. And I 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.760 love that, and I love to be surrounded by people 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.320 who kind of go, well, why can't we do that? Yeah, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:14.120 what's stopping us? 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.320 Let's give it a go. Right. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.280 It may have been a while since your last visited 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.480 the United States, but thank you. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.240 Thank You're talking to two people whose parents said, there 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.040 is no question, yeah, don't break the glass. 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.960 You don't run, You're going to break the glass, Which 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.160 is why I'm not a risk taker. So I understand that. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.360 You you know, you're born with this curiosity to push yourself. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.160 But you made your living essentially with a camera. So 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.080 where did the how did the connection between oh I 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.800 like doing this stuff, now let me do it with 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.959 a camera. How did that come to be interesting one? 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:42.360 Actually? 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.920 I mean at school, I was definitely known for my 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.600 brawn rather than my brain, so. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.960 I knew had to play to my strength. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.840 I was good at sport, excelled at sport, but the 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:52.320 other thing. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:53.400 I could do was art. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.560 So ideally I kind of needed to find something. It 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.439 wasn't a case I wanted to find it. I kind 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.760 of needed to find something which was creative but also physical. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.400 And you know, I had a few options to me 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.640 of army or whatever. I never did the military formerly, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.520 although I ends up working with a lot of military 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:18.000 over the years. But I kind of studying art. I 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.280 got my qualifications, went to art school, and then thought 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.800 what do I do? And then one day I met 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.679 through a friend another guy called Simon Niblett, who's a 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.440 well renowned documentary cameraman over here. And I met this 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.640 guy and I just thought, yea, he had landrovers, he 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.960 had motorbikes, he was leaving to go to Africa to 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.160 work with David Attenborough doing wildlife living in jungles for 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.240 weeks on end with wild animals, and I just thought, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.240 this guy's living my dream literally because it's kind of 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.520 he's doing a creative job with his camera, but also 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.280 he's got that physicality of having to survive in these 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.000 environments while working, and I just thought, you know, I 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.760 want some of that. So really I was very fortunate 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.640 because I did find that job that I suited it, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:03.520 and it suited me. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.200 Let's get to some of the risk taking. I know 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.640 you talked to him. I think I really said, one 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.320 of the worst places a jungle, because there's so much 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.760 stuff that can kill you. But I started putting myself 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.680 in your place thing and not only can it kill you, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.320 but I've got to have backups. I've got to have batteries, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.520 I've got to have These other guys are worrying about themselves, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.480 I got to worry about myself, the equipment, all this stuff. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.400 The shot I'm looking through an eyepiece while an anaconda 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.719 is coming up my rear. You know, it's like, oh 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.840 my god, is that the worst place to work? The jungle? 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:31.760 Yeah? 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.120 I mean, personally, out of all the environments I've worked in, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.040 which is pretty much all of them now, I think 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.760 the jungle is my least favorite. You get soaking wet 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.360 from the minute you walk into the when it you 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.040 walk out, whether it's raining or whether it's a sweat, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.160 pretty much everything is out there to kill you or 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.599 to get inside you, and I've had a few experiences 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.240 of that as well. I had a bug live in 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.560 my ear for three days, which drove me insane. I've 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.160 been bitten by probably everything there is to buy you 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.440 in Jungles. It's very It's a beautiful place, but it's tough, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.600 really tough. It just SAPs all the life out of you. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.000 So yeah, I guess the reward is high, but it's 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.160 it's a tough experience being there with jungle. It's just 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.440 hard work from the minute you go to the minute 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:14.880 you come out. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:16.160 It's worthing. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.200 Do they have Do they have extraction points? Like if 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.200 you get so you're there, you're filming, you're looking at 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.600 the eyepiece and a code will bite you on the butt. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.800 Do they have an extraction point? Do they have anti venom? 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.600 Do they have stuff or is it hate? Paul anybody 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.240 who want us to say goodbye to you'll text them 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.160 right now and like, what's the protocol theer? 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.560 No, we have we have people looking after us for 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.240 a start, so we have when we go into these places. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.960 We have a lot of X military guys who are 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.280 in our safety team, and they have protocols if something 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.520 does happen. We have you know, good comms with each 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.200 other through walkie talkies, but also we have satellite phones 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.200 where we can know our safety team would have already 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.600 been in touch with the nearest hospital to work out 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.480 what the emergency and is. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.200 Yeah, I would say a flag on the play because 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.400 that seems like cheating. I'm going to go specifically to 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.600 your work with Bear Grill Now. It seems to me 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.520 that the premise of the Bear Grills show is how 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.040 would you survive in these extreme places? How do you 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.080 handle these things? It seems to me if if an 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.960 anaconda bites mango or or bear comes across a carcass 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.680 and he goes, oh, I think I can eat this, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.400 and he eats a you know, a piece of liver 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.680 that's well past the expiration date, and he starts to 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.160 get in trouble, the show should be How do you 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.240 survive now, not with I have twenty seven comms, and 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.560 I have a medical team and a military and now 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.720 you're off the premise. So you know, let's show the 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.679 real thing. Let's you know, you got bitten by an anaconda. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.280 You got nobody you're in the jungle except you got 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.800 bear there going wow, mate, that's that's that's that's a 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:55.000 bad bite episode. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.079 When he's dropped his shopping on camera where he's throwing 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.959 up on camera. He got stung by bees and then 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.040 swelled up on camera. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.160 So you don't agree with we have that. But obviously if 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.160 it's it's only TV, right, I mean, it's not worth 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:09.600 dying for. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:11.960 But let me ask you this too, because there was 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.200 a controversy a little while back about that he was cushier. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.440 I read something that said he was cushier and it 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.520 was misrepresent thought it was misrepresented because he was staying somewhere. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.080 Wasn't the rich Carton, but he was staying somewhere that 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.760 was covered where you're not going to get bitten by 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.719 a stake, but gave the impression that he was out 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:29.200 in the public. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.440 How did they address that, Well, they addressed it quite 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.080 easily actually, so that the channel at the start of 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.880 the show, they just added that. You know that bear 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.960 Is has the help of professionals while making the show, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.480 as does the crew, and he basically says, I'm going 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.040 to show you how to survive, opposed to I Am 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:47.760 going to survive. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.760 It's as simple as that. And it was you that 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.839 was a long time ago. Now a long time ago, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.599 so things have you know, but old to me. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.720 Look, we're making a TV show, you know, it's not 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.520 like he's really crushed in a jungle making. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.480 Right, Oh don't break that well from to that to 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.920 that extent, just to get a peek behind the scenes 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.400 of making a show like that, so you know, like 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.560 when he finds he's like, oh my god, I found 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.440 a hunk of rope that's going to come in handy 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.400 and then sure enough, it sure does. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.320 Is that all pre planned? Is the rope planted there? 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.200 Or is he actually making discoveries and using things ad 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.680 lib as he goes a bit of. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.120 Both, to be honest, I mean, you know, again from 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.160 making TV and we've got a limited time in that location. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.720 We've got to make things work, and obviously we've got 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.080 safety to think of with the crew, So it's about, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.520 you know, we've got a journey in mind now. Working 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.080 with Bear for seventeen years now, I know that he 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.200 will stick to the plan to a certain degree, but 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.400 then he'll just go off because that's the way he is, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.640 and we just have to go with it. And obviously 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.640 that's obviously a lot where the magic happens. We're going along. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.040 We've thought about what the plan is with Bet and 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.160 we kind of make it all up as we go along, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.760 and then obviously things I'm running Wild. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.520 Then we bring a celebrity with. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.400 Us who then goes to the journey and experiences what 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.560 we experience. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.760 And their reactions are real right now, they's coming. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.720 Running Wild is an extraordinary series. I've done eight seasons 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.880 of it now and it never ceases to amaze me 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.440 that they these guys who are used to having an 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.920 entourage with them, or at least their agent or their 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.560 best friends, they literally get left. They have to come 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.880 by themselves because a lot of what we do is 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.400 close quarters in helicopters or going down slot canyons where 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.920 you just can't have a hundred people, and we've got 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.360 very few people on the ground as well. We can't 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.440 look after more people basically, so we take these people 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.320 literally out of their comfort zone. They've never done anything 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.120 like it before, and their reactions are extraordinary, I mean 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.880 absolute euphoria most of the time, as well as tangible terror. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.560 In fact, the readings if the headline was we killed 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.400 Will Ferrell would be me. Everybody would turn it to 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:06.160 be for a couple of days. Yeah, then Carnation episodes 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.240 and I watched that. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.640 But but but to that, it's an instruction on how 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.680 to do things well, how to do things safely. So 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.640 I immediately my Jewish mother is always in the back 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.120 of my head going why do they take the doors 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.360 off the helicopter? That's not safe? Why do we start 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.000 by creating a dangerous situation? If I'm in the helicopter, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.200 if I'm Will and the helicopter with Bear, first thing 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.640 I'm doing is go, where's the door? Why are we 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.800 hanging out the why are we hanging out? 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.360 There's a sliding door that slides back. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.040 You bet your the. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:45.080 On many helicopters they open out, so you just couldn't 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.120 do that. It would be impossible. So you take the 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.520 door off so that you can repel out of the 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:50.360 side of the headicle. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.760 Yeah, that's what I want to do. I'd be ready 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:53.360 to repel. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.880 That's what that's the safety reason, so that you can. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.880 Repel if you By the way, there are twelve trason 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.840 characteristics of bold risk takers. Can I ask you and 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.320 Jason together, if you have these traits you're ready? Sure 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:12.919 you're comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm always uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.640 right now. Just how you live. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.440 Well, it's mostly because you know, you know. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.280 You're up for a gamble. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.840 Boys, Really, you're a gambler. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.480 See now, I'm he didn't mean literally, You're so literal. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.280 I'm not gambling with money. I'm gambling with my life. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.800 Yeah, I'm I'm neither. I know. I'm a poker player. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.439 So people go, you're a gambler, and I go, no, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.480 I don't like the gamble. I like to play pokers. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.159 That's a little bit of risk. That's a little bit 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.320 of a risk. You're being very kind, all right. What 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.560 else you're used to getting in trouble? 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.040 Uh, I'm not sure about that. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.600 I like pushing boundaries, but I think sometimes rules are 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:55.080 there for a reason, So youah tensative fleet Maybe I 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:55.840 don't I don't like. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.240 I don't like getting. I understand you're in my twelve 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.880 years of primary school, never went to the principals. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.480 Oh man, I got all the time. You're a person 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.520 of action. You don't sit around. You can't sit. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.440 No, I struggle with. My wife says, I'm like a labrador. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.520 I need to get my exercise and I need a 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:14.040 lot of food. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.040 Yeah, my wife says, I'm a little more like a 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.200 French bulldog. I just sit and pa, I eat pastry. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:22.440 That's the b a French part. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.080 And a seventeen year old French bull You know what 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.000 you want. You're pretty clear on what you want. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.560 Yeah, yeah, I know what I want and not to 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:31.080