1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It's Monday, September fifteenth, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: and we just had the chance to hear from head 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: coach John Harbow after the Ravens forty one to seventeen 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: win over the Browns on Sunday. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: All good to see everybody, Really appreciate everybody being here. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Good win for us and this division win, very important, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: get going our first win of the season regular season football, 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: so that's important. I was pleased with the way the 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: guys played, the way they competed, the way they handled 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: the game, the way the game went, the pace of 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: the game, and the way they persevered throughout the game 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: and then found a way to extend it all at 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: the end. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: So all that was positive. What questions you have? 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: I mean with Lamar now, I mean he had another 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: day before touchdown passes, no interceptions. 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 5: How have you seen him really orchestrate the entire offense 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: over the. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: Past few years? 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: Now, over the past few years, improved in orchestra. Okay, 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: that wasn't on my sheet. As far as a possible question, 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: in the past few years, I would say Lamar has 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: been Thanks Jed, Lamar has been great the past few years. 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: Does that answer your question. No, I know, I think. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: It's indicative what you which is your point is really 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: good because he's been you know, that shows you. I mean, 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, there was a tough game yesterday against a 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: really great defense, you know, and so just this last game, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it was tough sledding and that wasn't just 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: coming our way, uh in terms of field position or 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: in terms of just you know, opportunities for plays or 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: things like that. And yet you know, he just kept 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: he kept pressing, he kept making uh you know, checks 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: he needed to make, and a couple of times there 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: were was plays that were I think really in trouble 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: and he bailed him out, you know. And probably three 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: of his three of his big plays were plays that 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: he made something out of absolutely nothing and you know, 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: made a bad play into a great play with the 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: help of his teammates. So you know, that was pretty 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: That's Lamar. I mean, that's that's the thing about Lamar 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: that is really just makes him another level probably of 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: a player. And yet all the solid stuff, all the 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: basic stuff, the outs on time, you know, the check 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: with me is all the different things like that are 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: the things that over the last few years I guess 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: what you're kind of referring to are the things that 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: he's really built into his game as well. 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's just La Marby and Lamar. 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: When you when you look at the running numbers yesterday, 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: I mean, in addition to them having good players on 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: their defense, was that did they just scheme to take 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: away Derek? 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 6: Is that what you saw when you went back at 55 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 6: it or well. 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: They definitely had a bunch of guys in the last 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: scrimmage and they were triggering the run right away. You know, 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: when I was coaching with Jim Johnson and Philly way 59 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: back when we had a way of playing that a 60 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: four to three defense, which is somewhat similar to what 61 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Schwartz does. Schwartz he does in Cleveland, not exactly the same, 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: but it was called blitz the run, you know, So 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: basically it's when you get a run key you're hitting 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: apps and run through gaps. And I would say they 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: were quote unquote blitzing the run. It wasn't a blitz call, 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: but it's a blitz reaction to the run. And those 67 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: those guys were coming downhill immediately and uh, and they 68 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: were all close to the line. 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Scrimmas to start with so, Uh, that was the plan 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: for them. 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: Make sure that we don't we don't run the ball. 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: The Ravens don't run the ball. We're not gonna get beat, 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: you know by the run. And uh, that's smart, you know, 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: that's smart football. And and they had success with that. 75 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 6: Part of it with little more. He said yesterday that 76 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 6: he takes an ivy I think for every game. Uh 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 6: was the heat of Big Factory. Do you think for 78 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: him yesterday in terms of the run game or anything 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 6: like that because it was overly. 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Hot obviously, No, I don't think that was a factor 81 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: with the run game part of it. I thought he 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: handled the heat well, you know, so it was okay. 83 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 6: And as far as the hydration plan, but that was 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: rare that he's doing that on a regular race. 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, different guys have the different plans we have. We 86 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: did do a great job here, you know, Sarah Snyder 87 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: does a great job. The trainers and stuff do a 88 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: great job of monitoring all that. I mean, guys get monitored. 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: You can't believe how much information we have on guys 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: and hydration, nutrition, performance type of things. It's it's it's great. 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, we have great staff and people do a 92 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: great job and of course some mar is kind of 93 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: important guy, so he gets a lot of attention with 94 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: that as well. 95 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: And do you have a. 96 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 6: Excuse me an update on polem annoying? As you mentioned 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 6: you're waiting from work. 98 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: Today, Yeah, I really, Uh, nothing I can tell you. 99 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: The update probably that I probably want to give bo 100 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: just would be that there's nothing season ending or long 101 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: long term. You know, everything else is either day to day. 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Something might stretch into a week to week. But uh, 103 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: there's really no advantage in us and sharing an information 104 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: today for our opponents, so probably stay away from it. 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: Leaving earlier it was an opportunity for some other guys 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: to play more money. 107 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 6: Green h what are you seeing from them? Not just yesterday, 108 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 6: but just his development? You know now know you know 109 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 6: whether Vaniels be bailable? 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think he like he and I did you 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: put Malachi kind of that category as well? 112 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: Young rookie players? 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Uh made it made made another step you know in 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: this in this in this game. Uh, he think he 115 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: tightened it up a little bit with some of his 116 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: kind of his angles on his pass rushes and his 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: run defense very physical off the edge, both of those. 118 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: A couple of times a few times. 119 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Yet still you know, like rookies, there's a ways to go, 120 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: but uh, you know, keep making the same kind of 121 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: progress every single week. And I'm happy with the way 122 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: the way Mike's playing. I mean, he's playing good football 123 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: for us, and you just got to keep growing as 124 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: a player as a young player. 125 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 7: Similarly, similar league with that Teddy Buchanan. It seems like 126 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 7: his knaps continue to improve over the first two weeks. 127 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 7: What is he doing that's getting him were playing that? 128 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point to put Teddy in that 129 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: same category with those guys, and he's playing well, you know, 130 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: he's he's uh, he's just playing really really solid football. 131 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: You know, he's in the right place, doing the right things, 132 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: the specific things that we were doing in this game. 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: I just thought Teddy played another really good game against 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: things he can work on and get better at, but uh, 135 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: uh played a really good game for us. 136 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 8: You anticipate that kind of be in the I know 137 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 8: where you're both different, but anticipated the playing. 138 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: Going forward similar I think we just kind of keep 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: going going week to week and day to day. I mean, 140 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: you just you just never know what direction it's going 141 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: to go. But you know when guys play well, they 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: continue to play, and you know there's nobody not playing well. 143 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: So you know it's if if there's something that we 144 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: need to you know, take out, we would. 145 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: But that's kind of just how it works. 146 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 6: What are you speaking of guys playing well? 147 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 8: You know, yesterday obviously down to the guy in the secondary, 148 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 8: you have to you know, nice played by Tampa there 149 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 8: you fail. You have Thiland with some nice plays, Tess Walker. 150 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 8: How important is it for those guys to step up 151 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 8: when Derrick Henry, you know, is being. 152 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 6: Contained the other guy. 153 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: It's just it's a great point. I think. You know, 154 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: your point is exactly right. You need a whole team. 155 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: You know, there's everybody's on the team for a reason 156 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: because you need them. You know, you want guys on 157 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: your team to contribute, you know, and and and and 158 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: when guys man, they want guys. Everybody wants to contribute. 159 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: Everybody wants their opportunity, they want their shot. And it 160 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: really doesn't matter where you are. You know you're on 161 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: the roster. If you're the star player, Lamar, Lamar wants 162 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: to contribute and make plays. If you're a guy that's 163 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: fighting for that playing time, you want to contribute and 164 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: make plays. If you get out there on a punt rush, 165 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: you want to go block a pond if you can, 166 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: you get your shot at wide receiver, you want to 167 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: go catch a pass or a touchdown pass, you know, 168 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: when you can. Guys, guys want to win first and foremost, 169 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: but they also want to contribute just as much, you know, 170 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: and because that's that's what they work hard for. So yes, 171 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: it's very important to build that into your team, you know, 172 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: from the inside out, where everybody feels like and knows 173 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: that when they go out there that they're they know 174 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: the standard. The expectation is just as high for them 175 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: as it is for everybody for and uh and uh 176 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: and and they and we were putting them out there 177 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: because we're planning on them. We're expecting them to make 178 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: those plays. 179 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: About but with pat record, it seemed like I felt 180 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: like you guys thought he might have been ready for 181 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: that season over did. 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to put a terma out 183 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: like that. 184 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: And I think it's a good fair question because you know, 185 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know what what what you want 186 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: to call it, but it's not It hasn't been as 187 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: quick as we thought you know, it just hasn't been. 188 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way around it. 189 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm Pat's I'm disappointed, but Pat's more disappointed than anybody 190 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: that hasn't gotten there faster than as what was expected 191 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: when he first did it. So, yeah, it's been. It's 192 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: been slower than we hoped, that's for sure. And we're 193 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: kind of in that, i'd say probably week to week 194 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: mode with Pat right now. 195 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 6: And just to clarify the update that you gave them 196 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 6: then we does not apply to Maryland as well. 197 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: What what part of it. 198 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 8: Then? 199 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 6: You don't want to get into specifics. 200 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: Yes, but. 201 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: The answer is yes, thank you for asking you like that, 202 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: what you said about it. I'm just staying away from 203 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: it right now because I don't want to. I just 204 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: don't want to let you guys bleed that information out. 205 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm doing my best here, not the you're 206 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: pulling my fingernails out. You're, you know, try to get 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: to share some information that I don't want to give you. 208 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: It's not that I want to give it to you 209 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: or the fans. I just I don't want to give 210 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: it to the lions. That's the main thing right now. 211 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 6: If a guy like if. 212 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: A guy hypothetically were happened to be one of these 213 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: guys we're talking about. 214 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 8: If someone, say Kyle, would have to miss time. Do 215 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 8: you feel confident with the group you have even if 216 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 8: it ends up. 217 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: Being and up being sort of longer than maybe expected. 218 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean kind of goes to the last question 219 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: that you asked, and I would absolutely the expectations would 220 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: be for that to be the exact same, you know, 221 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: and let's go, yeah, one hundred percent true. 222 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 6: How did you call it? Challenge? Then the endzone, the 223 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 6: player Andrews who were all knocked down, and not just that, 224 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 6: but when we decided not to challenge. 225 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: To look at you send that into the league to 226 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: try to get clarification just for information down. 227 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that was a That was a 228 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: hard don't challenge from ups from my guys upstairs, because 229 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: they had a long time to look at that, and uh, 230 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: they're not going to change what they're they They looked 231 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: at it and they made their decision already from upstairs, 232 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, in New York. 233 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: So that wasn't going to get overturned. 234 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: It wasn't. There was no third act. Even in the 235 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: end zone, there was nothing. There's no football act at 236 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: all and the ball got knocked out. So that's what 237 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: was explained to me at the time that we were 238 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: going to lose the challenge if we did it. Now, 239 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: if we if we call in and we find out that, 240 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: because I'll be honest with you, Luke, it hasn't been 241 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: one hundred percent consistent. Maybe you know sometimes they look 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: the same to us and you try to get a 243 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: gauge on what's going to get overturned and what's not 244 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: going to get overturned, and then you get surprised. So 245 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's not possible, but it looked like 246 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: at the time, and I think it's probably going to 247 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: be confirmed that we'd have lost the challenge and lost 248 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: the time out. So you know, if you're going to 249 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: lose the challenge and you don't want to make the challenge. 250 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: So that was It's the same thing on the the 251 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: one with Hop. You know that you see the knee down, Uh, 252 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: you know, did he have control when the knee was down? 253 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: Hops that he didn't. You can't control it till he 254 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: was in the end zone, you know. So that was 255 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: Hop's argument, and uh, I don't know, but they looked 256 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: at that for a long time before they overturned it, 257 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: So when they were returned it, they they're telling you 258 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: that's their that's their decision. So that was that was 259 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: what happened on those two And I'm sure that you know, 260 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: the guys upstairs that were helping me had it right. 261 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: And you know, I can I can see the point. 262 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: But yes, if we get something back that says otherwise, 263 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: I'll be happy to share. 264 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 3: It with you. 265 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 6: Does this change your approach challenges? 266 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: Has What. 267 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 6: Does that change or a philosophy or approach with the challenge. 268 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: That's a great, great point, Garrett. 269 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it probably hasn't a sense that 270 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: you you they'll they give you. They basically are gonna 271 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: do most of that already. You know they want they 272 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: don't really I don't think they want that red flag 273 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: out as much. I'm just I don't think they care 274 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: about but they'd rather get it right and replay. 275 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,479 Speaker 3: Assist then take it to a challenge. 276 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: So uh, if they have time to look at those, 277 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna probably look at them and put it where 278 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: they want it. 279 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: John, you know, we. 280 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 8: Saw Lamar mark for Charlie Cooler lot during training camp, 281 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 8: so hard just four total targets for those two guys 282 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 8: obviously has definitely been a judgment of the Bazentine. But 283 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 8: just what do you make of the relative lack actually 284 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 8: that you can tightens in terms of the. 285 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: I make of it, you know, just football, Probably it's 286 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: gonna happen. Those guys are gonna catch a lot of passes. 287 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: Expect those guys to be a big part of what 288 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: we're doing. You know, if we start going four or 289 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: five weeks and you know, you don't see the tight 290 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: ends getting targets, that'll probably be I'll probably be asking Monk, 291 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: you know, and Lamhar and the guys, what do you 292 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: think you know? But uh uh, the ball goes where 293 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: it goes based on the reeds, you know, That's where 294 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: the ball goes based on the Mars reeds. 295 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: And that's what quarterbacks do. 296 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: So those guys know that, you know, and they're not 297 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: They're they're fighting there, running good routes and just trying 298 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: to make the plays that come to him, catches. 299 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: That we've seen DeAndre make with the guys just all over. 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 6: Why do you think he's so good at that? 301 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: And you were defensive backs coach, like, what would you 302 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: even tell a. 303 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: Guy who was covering I I, I's funny because I 304 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: was watching the tape this morning very early, and uh, 305 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: I I just I. 306 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: Just thought that that that that that. 307 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: That young, that young corner was covering DeAndre as well 308 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: as you could. I mean, he couldn't cover him any better, 309 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: you know. And uh and yet Lamar puts the ball 310 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: in a great spot and DeAndre makes a great catch. 311 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, why is he as good as he is? 312 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: That that's a. 313 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Question for the for the for the Lord, you know, 314 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: because he gave him that talent, and he's he's just 315 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: great at uh at making making plays. 316 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 7: John, what DeAndre is is less kind of war when 317 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 7: it comes to his snap case, his snap count to 318 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 7: this point, he doesn't play that but he's obviously they 319 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 7: impact plays and those times. Do you foresee him getting 320 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 7: more playing time or was this kind of what you 321 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: wanted to look like? 322 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: I think we'll see as we go, you know. I 323 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: think some games, you know, might be one way or another. 324 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: But we have a lot of guys that can play 325 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: and do different things, so it's not it's not a 326 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: bad thing to do it that way, you know. And 327 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: but I'm sure that you know, every player wants to 328 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: be on the field as much as they can. So 329 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: the more deandres on the field, I'm happy about that. 330 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: But if we don't have to have them out there 331 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: too much doing things that aren't like kind of difference 332 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: making things too, that kind of makes sense as well. 333 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: And then you've got guys that can go out there 334 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: and make make plays. Like you put Ted's out there 335 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: and he does some things and he changes it up 336 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: on the on the defense, that's a nice thing too, 337 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: and Thailand the same way. 338 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: Of course, you already got Bait and Za. 339 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: You know they're gonna play a lot of snaps and 340 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: you want to get the ball to the tight ends. 341 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: That was just brought up. You know, one of the 342 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: tight ends goes get those chances. So those are all 343 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: the things that like we're kind of grappling with and 344 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: trying to put together the offense for every week, and 345 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Todd and t and the offensive. 346 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: Coaches, I'll do a great job with that. 347 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of that's kind of a blessing, 348 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: you know, but it's also a dilemma and we're working 349 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: through it. But hopefully it's a kind of blemma that 350 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: puts a lot of points on the board. That's what 351 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: we're hoping for. 352 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 7: Yesterday he said, you want to focus on getting him 353 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 7: in football shape. 354 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 6: With Jay you said yesterday, you want to. 355 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: What do you need to see to determine that he's 356 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: ready to go back out there. 357 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a great question. I just it's it's 358 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: such a I wish it was really black and white. 359 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: But I think he'll be out there soon. You know, 360 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: it could be as early as this week, but it's 361 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: going to be when when you when he feels and 362 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: you can see that that you know that that that 363 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: he's right, you know, to go out there and just 364 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: play like the top level jay Ere. I don't want 365 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: to put him a situation where he's got to try 366 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: to overcome not quite being you know, right as he 367 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: can be, especially if we've got guys that can play well. 368 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: You know. 369 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: So that's just kind of like almost a great problem 370 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: to have that you don't have to force a player 371 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: out there, you know when he's kind of you know, 372 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: he's a tough injury he had last year, and he's 373 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: been rehabing that thing in the off season, rehabbing it 374 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: now through training camp. He ended up rehabing it for 375 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: about three four weeks in training camp with no practice, 376 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: so that was probably the toughest part of it. If 377 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: he'd been able to you know, practice there, maybe that 378 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: would help, but it wasn't quite there yet. 379 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: Uh it's it's good now though, And I don't know. 380 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: I just we'll just see in the practice. He and 381 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: I will talk about it, and we'll get him out 382 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: there just as soon as we can. But I think 383 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: it's going to be real soon, real, real much. It'll 384 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: be much sooner rather than later, you know. And I 385 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: can't wait till he's out there, and maybe it'll be 386 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: this week. 387 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: So it's a collaborative situation. I mean, it's it's. 388 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: Collaborative, yes, me and him and the and the and 389 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: the performance stuff. You see the number, you see the numbers, 390 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, with the performance numbers and all those kinds 391 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: of things that we do. And uh, that's it. 392 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: Quick off lay on the wall became winning him in 393 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 5: the difference between the forty and the thirty five. He's 394 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: worth the risk of trying to be that precisely. 395 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, Okay, so if you want to talk like the foot, 396 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: the challenges right now with field position are really becoming 397 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: interesting with this kickoff because the field position now is 398 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: a problem when you kick off because it potentially sets you, 399 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: it puts you backed up. There's more backed up right 400 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: now that I think there's more backed up now than 401 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: has been. You saw us backed up three times in 402 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: the first half. So when an offense takes possession of 403 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: the ball, you know it's going to be at least 404 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: the thirty. It seems like, you know, I mean, you 405 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: got to really you got to do something to get 406 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: them at the twenty five or the twenty three or 407 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: the twenty four, to get them somewhat in a normal. 408 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: Field position spot. 409 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: It's even when you kick them the ball, like if 410 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: the ball's up in the air, they get a running start. 411 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: They can push to punch the ball of the thirty 412 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: pretty pretty normally, right. So now you try to get 413 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: the ball in the ground, You try to put them 414 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: in the corner. You try to get them moving to 415 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: the catch it or to make it bounce so you 416 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: can get a start to not put yourself in a 417 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: situation where one first down and they're punting the ball 418 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: back down to the ten yard line. And that's really 419 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: what's happening. So every time, now, if you think about this, 420 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: when you every time you score. The more you score, 421 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: the more you kick off, the more likely you are 422 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: to be backed up on your next offensive possession. So 423 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: now so teams are experimenting with what can they do 424 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: to push the kickoff return back with their kickoff team, 425 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: And so you're seeing the ball come up short or 426 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: come up out of bounds, and that's we just got 427 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: to decide whether we want to risk that or not. 428 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: But I don't really want Tyler kicking the ball out 429 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: of bounds, and he knows that, and that's that's for sure. 430 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Shouldn't happen in my mind. The drive kick that comes 431 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: up short, that's tougher, you know, because that can happen. 432 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: The ball's shape funny. But you know, we don't love 433 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: that either. We still want to have a chance to 434 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: cover the kick. 435 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: Do you think it's been good for the game with 436 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: just with all the variation we're seeing as supposed to 437 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: twelve touchbacks game, I. 438 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: Think it's better than twelve touchbacks a game, if that's 439 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: that's the question. Is it better than Is this better 440 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: than twelve touchbacks a game? 441 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: Yes? 442 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 6: I don't know. Trent Simpson, could you get a look 443 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 6: on him on the outside, I know he's done that before. 444 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 7: You did that in college if you have injury woes 445 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 7: or you're missing something outside like eb a solution there too. 446 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: When you say outside, like what position are you talking about? 447 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 6: Line? 448 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: He uh, he could play Sam? Yeah, he could play Sam. 449 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: Could he play defensive end? You know as a as 450 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: a you know when when those guys you know you're 451 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: talking about like it's just nuanced because cayle Van Noyd 452 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: plays Sam in the in the base defense, but he 453 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: also plays defensive end in the in the sub defense. 454 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: He's not playing off the ball in the sub defense. 455 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: Could Trent play defensive end in the edge? Probably not 456 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: right now, it's not something that body type wise, we'd 457 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: be looking at doing it this time. But he can 458 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: play Sam sure in the in the base. 459 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 8: On special teams guy, Right, how does your team find 460 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 8: Ja Hummel? 461 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 6: Like how did he end up here? And the springs 462 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 6: for the guy like that, you knowing that role rings 463 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 6: to his team. 464 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a veteran special teams guy knows how 465 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: to play the game. Has proven at a high level 466 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: that that's really valuable. And obviously you saw what he did. 467 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: He's made other plays you maybe had fans haven't seen 468 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: as far as covers and things like that, but man, 469 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: that block punt was big. The block punt, the punt 470 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: return and then the two defensive plays. It set up scores. 471 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: You talking about twenty four points. It got set up 472 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: by special teams and defense. You have to look and say, 473 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: that's probably the difference in the game, right. And then 474 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: he was kind of the guy that kind of got 475 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: that jump started. So how do we find him? You know, 476 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: our scouts and our and Chris Horton, you know, looking 477 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: a free agency and he became available and they studied 478 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: him and they loved him, and Chris showed him to me, 479 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, this guy kind of guy? 480 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: Is he? You know? Could he help us? Is he 481 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: a good guy? Does he worked hard? And uh? You know, 482 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: would he fit? And uh? And we were able to 483 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: get him here. 484 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: I just I'm glad he's here, you know, A really 485 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: grateful da he's on our team. 486 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: John how bed with the dalnefield passing game, especially with 487 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: teams trying to kind of loot up the box a 488 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: little bit and see played, you guys have been able 489 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 5: to push the fall gap. 490 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 491 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: The chunk throws have been good, you know, we had 492 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: I think we had six explosive passes, which was good solid. 493 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: It's not it's not we've had more, but uh it 494 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: probably fit sixty percent or something like that in the 495 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: NFL in a game. But uh, that's that's been big. 496 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, we're hitting a lot of you know, people 497 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: are playing man against us and we've we've we've taken 498 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: advantage of that. You know, you saw Zay have a 499 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: bunch of plays in this last game. Also hot, but Bait, 500 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, Bait came up early in the game, made 501 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: some plays for us and got us going. So yeah, 502 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: the chunk passing game has been good. 503 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: You know, people load the box up. You hope that's 504 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: what happens. 505 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 8: There's been been a lot of long field goals this year, 506 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 8: a number of that from fifty five you know, obviously 507 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 8: Tyler's got plenty over just curiously, one, why do you 508 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 8: think there's been so many you know, long kicks being 509 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 8: maids just as simple as all in the kickers better 510 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 8: or Secondly, what would you feel sort of comfortable with 511 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 8: with Tyler? 512 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 513 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: Well second, first, Tyler, can we we would try those 514 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: you know, we're not we're not opposing you know, fifty 515 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: plus yard kicks. Uh, well, I mean, are you going 516 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: to do that in the regular course of the game, 517 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: you know, Uh, the odds go down a lot. You know, 518 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: you want to kick a seventy yard field goal in 519 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: the middle of the first quarter or would you rather punt? 520 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: You know, so that's probably I'm punting there or going 521 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: for it maybe if it's real short. But as it 522 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: gets to be more of a meaningful like number, as 523 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: you get later in the game where you need the points, 524 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: you heck, yeah, you know you can put them back there. 525 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: Why is it happening? Yeah, the kickers deserve a lot 526 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: of credit. Snappers and holders are just as important, and 527 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: then well maybe not just as important, but they're real close. 528 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: They all work together. 529 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: But the balls are different too, you know, they're they're 530 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: not they're not kicking the balls out of the box 531 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: as much anymore, you know, they're they're they're kicking balls 532 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 2: that they tweaked the rule on that, which is probably 533 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: more fair for those guys. So they're probably're probably seeing 534 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: what they're really more capable of doing with the football. 535 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: It's a little more like the quarterback just get a 536 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: chance to throw. 537 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, did anyone get on whose for his 538 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 8: open on the sideline on the celebration. 539 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see that, trainer. 540 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 6: Oh, I think he's calling for trainer that the big 541 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 6: he got hurt in the play. 542 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: Oh, on the side of the I don't think that 543 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: was the real thing there. You're saying you are you 544 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: serious or are you joking? 545 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: No? 546 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 6: I was. 547 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 8: I was just saying I was wondering if it was 548 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 8: actually addressed with him, because it looked like when he 549 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 8: got up and walked across the field, look like. 550 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 6: He was fine. 551 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: He was fine, He's fine for the game yesterday. 552 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 6: I don't know if you know this, this report comes 553 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 6: out that. 554 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: Or Sandra said you didn't want to go to the 555 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: Ravens because you didn't want to have to back up 556 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. 557 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 6: Do you guys have any legitimate interest in him? 558 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 3: Or we can't ask me? So, Oh, that's a good 559 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: way to frame it. But like, so you think that 560 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm going. 561 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: To answer draft questioned process questions, Yeah, I was. 562 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: In the room. 563 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: If we have a policy here that if we don't 564 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: talk about the draft room decision making process, so I'm 565 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: not going to be able to answer that for you, 566 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: as much as I may like to or may not 567 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: want to. I'm not gonna be able to answer that 568 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: for you. 569 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Ravens Press Past podcast. 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