Speaker 1: I am super excited about our guest today. Um. We
Speaker 1: follow each other on Instagram and she sent me a
Speaker 1: d M in reply to a story that I had
Speaker 1: put up, and I was so excited to see her
Speaker 1: name in there, and I was like, Hi, Oh my gosh, thanks,
Speaker 1: And then I got so freaked out. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, is this where I take my opportunity to
Speaker 1: ask her to be a guest on pod Meats World?
Speaker 1: Or do I not do that? I'm always so awkward
Speaker 1: about asking people to do things. But I knew how
Speaker 1: badly we wanted her on as a guest, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to miss this opportunity.
Speaker 1: And so I said, any possibility, maybe you'd like to
Speaker 1: be a guest on pod Meats World and she was like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I'd be honored. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's true or not, but I was so excited
Speaker 1: and I am. It was nice enough. It made me
Speaker 1: so happy. I immediately texted the two of you and
Speaker 1: I was like, Marla's suckle Off, So let me please
Speaker 1: introduce Marla suckle Off. Guys. Oh my gosh, We're so
Speaker 1: happy you're here. I'm so happy to be here. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me? Are you kidding? I just told the
Speaker 1: story about how this even came about, that you sent
Speaker 1: me a d M in reply to a story, and
Speaker 1: I got so nervous, Just so you know, I got
Speaker 1: so nervous to ask you because I thought, what if
Speaker 1: I asked her to be on the pod Meats World
Speaker 1: And she's like, um no, I really know. I wish
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have applied to dear story. That was my thought.
Speaker 1: But then you wrote back so quickly that you would
Speaker 1: be happy to do it, and I immediately texted the
Speaker 1: guys and we're just so happy you're here. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was so excited that you message that to me because
Speaker 1: I actually got when you guys talked about me on
Speaker 1: the podcast, like seven seven thousand d ms about you guys.
Speaker 1: So I went back and listened and I was like
Speaker 1: that it like brought a tear to my eye. It
Speaker 1: was just so thoughtful and sweet. So it really meant
Speaker 1: a lot to me. Well, it's funny. It's because it's
Speaker 1: a legendary episode, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: were a part of this big thing. But then we
Speaker 1: also like I knew you like two years before you did. Boy,
Speaker 1: Meets World, Like we went all the way back to
Speaker 1: the oak Wood days, Um explaining that, So I didn't
Speaker 1: know that by the time she was on Boy Meats World,
Speaker 1: you guys already knew each other. Yeah, we had been well, okay,
Speaker 1: so Marley, you're from northern California originally, right, you're from
Speaker 1: so we do like Bruce Detta manager coach acting class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there was a contingent of us, like northern California
Speaker 1: kids that would all come to the oak Woods for
Speaker 1: Pilot Susan and we all kind of knew each other
Speaker 1: and I would roller blade around. I don't remember if
Speaker 1: you roller bladed, and we would like to hang out
Speaker 1: at each other's apartments and hang out by the pool,
Speaker 1: and like there's a group of us, I mean, like
Speaker 1: one of the one of the guys I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember an actor named Sean Fox who was
Speaker 1: in three Ninja's Um Sean Fox. Sean Fox, he's still
Speaker 1: my best friend. He's he's an economist now it teaches
Speaker 1: in at the University of Bristol in England, so completely
Speaker 1: left the industry. But yeah, it's like, dude, and like
Speaker 1: Jessica Bowman was an actor's who was also the world
Speaker 1: later and she was like a friend of yours. I remember, Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: there's just it was like a summer camp vibe that
Speaker 1: something even funnier. I saw you and l miss like,
Speaker 1: oh that's crazy, that's so fun. Well, for anyone who
Speaker 1: doesn't know already, Marla played Page in the episode Coreries
Speaker 1: Alternative Friends, which was season one, episode four of Boy
Speaker 1: Meats World. It was such a legendary episode for you know,
Speaker 1: writer feels like that's the episode where he really he
Speaker 1: got really introduced to the show and took on all
Speaker 1: of the third character friends lines. Um. It's also the
Speaker 1: infamous episode of how I ended up becoming to Pango
Speaker 1: Lawrence and um, Marla, you and I mean, going back
Speaker 1: through your career, you are like a T G I
Speaker 1: F ABC family sitcom. There is not It is not
Speaker 1: a single amazing show you were not a part of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty It was a wild time. I mean,
Speaker 1: the the full house of it all is the weirdest
Speaker 1: because it was you know, we came to the oak
Speaker 1: Wood for one month and my mom was like, you
Speaker 1: get you know, you're gonna try this pilot season thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But we're not staying
Speaker 1: too long. And then I got Full House like the
Speaker 1: first week, which you guys know that doesn't happen. That
Speaker 1: never happens. So it's like, oh, this it's easy, like
Speaker 1: talking about talk to us about full House and who
Speaker 1: you played and you obviously then you you came back
Speaker 1: for Fuller House. Talk to us a little bit about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it was I was such a huge fan of
Speaker 1: the show, like loved the show, as you know, all
Speaker 1: kids our age did. And I remember I got the
Speaker 1: audition and um, the casting director came out and told
Speaker 1: my mom. She was like she's great, but she just
Speaker 1: she's too sweet, like her face is so sweet or
Speaker 1: you know something, which is so not true. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody has a bigger RBF than I do. But so, um,
Speaker 1: my mom was like okay. And then I turned around,
Speaker 1: like as we were leaving, and I said, can I
Speaker 1: come back? I have an idea and she was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but you're just not right for it.
Speaker 1: And my mom and I went to the good Will
Speaker 1: and I got a denim vest and Doc Martin's and
Speaker 1: then she had me come back for producers and she
Speaker 1: came out and I I don't know where this like,
Speaker 1: you know, confidence or you know, even level of hootzbuck
Speaker 1: came from. But I was in character and she was
Speaker 1: like Marlon. I was like what And I went in
Speaker 1: the yeah, and I got the parting what great? And
Speaker 1: that was that that's how old were you? Twelve? Of course?
Speaker 1: Of course to have that kind of confidence as an
Speaker 1: actor twelve of course, but it's also to dumb luck,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know how you were supposed to really
Speaker 1: be at a professional auditions. You know, I didn't go
Speaker 1: to a ton and you know, in northern California, we
Speaker 1: did like mainly commercial work, right, like it was like
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Um, So I think it's just
Speaker 1: just like I don't care attitude that was so probably
Speaker 1: refreshing to some people, but I miss that. Where is
Speaker 1: that girl that would be so amazing but does not care?
Speaker 1: You know? Well, you were also on an episode of
Speaker 1: Step by Step. You were in an episode of Home Improvement.
Speaker 1: What would you do on Home Improvement? What did I do?
Speaker 1: I think I was, um zach Tayebrian's girlfriends right a party.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't really remember blooded together. It's just we've
Speaker 1: also talked a lot on this podcast about how much
Speaker 1: like making out there was on shows, and so if
Speaker 1: you did make the rounds in the nineties on Guest Show,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's pretty much like I was probably kissing somebody.
Speaker 1: I was probably like somebody's girlfriend or boyfriend. That's ms
Speaker 1: off to the side watching us, like I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the stands. So weird awkward times smoking that I did
Speaker 1: on Full House, it's like that would not pass today,
Speaker 1: you know. In fact, I actually made that TikTok, the
Speaker 1: the teenage Dirtbag one and I put a picture of
Speaker 1: me smoking on it and I got taken it got
Speaker 1: taken down for inappropriate contents. Right, really, well, I mean
Speaker 1: you also waited till twelve to smoke, so you're already
Speaker 1: starting late. Will was an old and old he had
Speaker 1: already been doing it for a few years by then.
Speaker 1: But you were also on the Emmy winning show The
Speaker 1: Practice for seven seasons. Yeah. Yeah, I remember seeing you
Speaker 1: doing that and being like, man, that looks so fun
Speaker 1: and so cool. Yeah, and talked about a transition from
Speaker 1: sitcom to like real drama like harding. Yeah, such a
Speaker 1: great Yeah, there was a lot of years in between.
Speaker 1: I would say the sitcom component and moving on to
Speaker 1: like the practice. I think, you know, we all go
Speaker 1: through that like awkward stage in high school where you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't working as much. And then I decided I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to normal school. You know, I felt
Speaker 1: like I really got cheated, And so I went to
Speaker 1: a normal high school for a few years. And did
Speaker 1: you stay or yeah, yeah, we stayed here. At the time,
Speaker 1: my parents had already separated, so we never went back.
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, so I went to a high school
Speaker 1: called Laxa, the l A County High School of the Arts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I got the practice. And so were you acting
Speaker 1: in high school? Then? Were you doing like theater and stuff? Really?
Speaker 1: Like I went super rogue and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be in the music department. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be, you know, in theater anymore. I just I
Speaker 1: think I was very burned out and I just didn't
Speaker 1: see I was so new and experiencing like rejection and
Speaker 1: it just got to me, you know. So I remember
Speaker 1: I called my agents one day and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm done. You don't need to send me out for
Speaker 1: anything anymore, you know, I feel good. And how old
Speaker 1: were you at that point? I was sixteen. Wow, and
Speaker 1: how long had you been acting? I mean I professionally
Speaker 1: started probably when I was like nine ten something like that. Um,
Speaker 1: But doing theater and all that stuff wait earlier like seven. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I think I just needed to
Speaker 1: like go experience normal school and not be on set
Speaker 1: doing school. You know. I just really felt that poll. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something like that. Everybody went through that at some point,
Speaker 1: Like I definitely did, you know for we all get
Speaker 1: me off this TV show, which is you know, which
Speaker 1: is hard to explain to people, like we talked about
Speaker 1: it on this podcast. It's like it sounds like we
Speaker 1: were ungrateful little brats. But the truth is like there
Speaker 1: is this desire for like whatever the you know, especially
Speaker 1: when you start at a young age. It's like, but
Speaker 1: I just want like a little bit of a corner
Speaker 1: of the world that's my own, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: be quote unquote normal. It's it's an impulse I think
Speaker 1: across the board. There's something strange about I've noticed so
Speaker 1: many actors that are young. We're young actors started professionally
Speaker 1: at the age of ten. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is with that number, but I was ten. You ten. Yea,
Speaker 1: it was Daniel and ten. If there's something about that
Speaker 1: age and a bunch of young actors where they've started
Speaker 1: at the age of ten. I don't know why. It's
Speaker 1: just a weird coincidence, but I think that's a really
Speaker 1: kind of formative year. I mean, I have a ten
Speaker 1: year old and she it's like suddenly she's, you know,
Speaker 1: so much more mature and like has, you know, her
Speaker 1: own ideas and her own self. And I think that
Speaker 1: probably has something to do with it, right, Like you're
Speaker 1: finally I do actually want to do this, and it's
Speaker 1: not your parents pushing acting. Hell no souls and ten.
Speaker 1: I could see her doing it, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: but because of like our past and I feel and
Speaker 1: it's I don't have a negative thought in my head
Speaker 1: about it. I just feel like it's so important to
Speaker 1: go to school and figure out what you want to
Speaker 1: do and then I'll fully support it and help you
Speaker 1: and do all that. But am I going to like
Speaker 1: take you to auditions and like you know, you're leaving
Speaker 1: the fifth grade? Yeah, when you say it out loud,
Speaker 1: like you've done it and you're saying out loud where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, it's I'm ten, time to start work.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's it's weird. It's weird. I love
Speaker 1: that I did it, and I'm glad that I did it,
Speaker 1: but it's it is. It's strange, But it's one of
Speaker 1: those things like the insanity of it also kind of
Speaker 1: points to the fact that we all of us on
Speaker 1: this conversation, in this conversation, we're probably so driven that
Speaker 1: you might not have been able to stop us, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It might have been like
Speaker 1: that's what my parents talked about, how it was just
Speaker 1: so apparent that you were like, we can't writer is
Speaker 1: going to do this thing, like he's going to get
Speaker 1: up on stage and he wants to do it, and
Speaker 1: we have to sort of follow. I mean, even Marloe
Speaker 1: your story about being like can I come back? Let
Speaker 1: me go get my denim jacket and like nail this part,
Speaker 1: Like that must be crazy as a parent to be
Speaker 1: looking at your twelve year old do this thing that
Speaker 1: you don't quite understand and be like, Okay, they've got
Speaker 1: something going on. But it is also I think so
Speaker 1: much about how um later than when the show ended,
Speaker 1: when Boy Meets World ended, and I wanted so badly
Speaker 1: to just like, I'm getting as far away from acting
Speaker 1: as I can. I'm taking a break. I'm going to
Speaker 1: jump into whatever normal life means for me. And then
Speaker 1: you try to come back to it. Not necessarily because
Speaker 1: oh wow, I feel the need to come back and
Speaker 1: be a fantastic actor, but because all right, well, I
Speaker 1: do need to make a living and this is the
Speaker 1: only thing I know how to do. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what else there is for me to do.
Speaker 1: And I didn't go to college right after Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World ended because I thought I was going to act
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. And then when it's
Speaker 1: hard to get an acting job and you go, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute. I have not thought this
Speaker 1: out very well because if no one will hire me,
Speaker 1: and I don't have an education, I mean I had
Speaker 1: a high school education, but I didn't know what that
Speaker 1: meant as far as like, so, now, what do I
Speaker 1: want to do that involves a high school education? Do
Speaker 1: I want to go to college? What do I want
Speaker 1: to study? I know nothing about anything except this one thing.
Speaker 1: And so yes, Marla, from your perspective, thinking about a
Speaker 1: ten year old taking them out of school already for
Speaker 1: auditions in the in the afternoon, and and yeah, there
Speaker 1: is there's like I always feel like a downer when
Speaker 1: people say, what's your best advice for someone who wants
Speaker 1: to get into the entertainment industry, And like my first
Speaker 1: piece of advice is always like, know what you're amazing
Speaker 1: Plan B is. You know what your Plan B is.
Speaker 1: That if you have to go to Plan B, you'll
Speaker 1: be just as happy as if Plan A worked out.
Speaker 1: Because if you know that and you can pursue that
Speaker 1: at the same time that you're also pursuing your dream,
Speaker 1: then there really is a safety net for you and
Speaker 1: you're not just going to be flat on your face.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything more scary than when you
Speaker 1: had to make money at that at this career, you know.
Speaker 1: I remember it was always like my mom saying, oh,
Speaker 1: that's going in your you know, savings fund or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you know, and when like I got a car
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen and all that was really exciting.
Speaker 1: And then I remember, you know, getting my first apartment
Speaker 1: at eighteen, and it's like once that happens where it's
Speaker 1: your your own responsibility and you need to like get
Speaker 1: your hustle on that that was terrifying. And also you
Speaker 1: just mentioned something very interesting that I think since we're
Speaker 1: kind of talking about growing up as an actor and
Speaker 1: making a living at it, you just mentioned your Cougan Fund,
Speaker 1: and I think there's something that that we haven't really
Speaker 1: talked about yet. So Jackie Coogan was a child actor,
Speaker 1: um and and had lost all his money. I think
Speaker 1: his parents had investeds, had taken took it all. So
Speaker 1: they created something where is it is? That? Is that?
Speaker 1: What it is? So if you are under the ten
Speaker 1: of your money is automatically put away and can't be
Speaker 1: touched just so you can't finish this and somebody can
Speaker 1: take it all. A manager can take it all, a
Speaker 1: parent can take it all. So um yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's something that's interesting that you have to think about
Speaker 1: it thirteen that it's like, you know, this amount of
Speaker 1: money is being saved or this amount of money is
Speaker 1: being spent or it's a it's yeah, you're because not
Speaker 1: all parents are amazing, all are saying or savvy, right,
Speaker 1: and and it does there is this bizarre thing that
Speaker 1: happens where your your parents, like you know, my mom,
Speaker 1: her life became my career. You know, in my brother's career.
Speaker 1: She was driving us constantly, and I think about the commitment.
Speaker 1: You know, she had a teaching job. She was teaching
Speaker 1: and junior college. She quit her job. She would have
Speaker 1: been running the nutrition department in a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but she gave it up, you know, and job. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's so crazy. So I could see how
Speaker 1: a a a less a less scrupulous parent would just
Speaker 1: be like, well, then that rationalizes me taking and all
Speaker 1: the money. Oh you heard that, you you must have heard.
Speaker 1: We all heard that from certain people where it was
Speaker 1: like and I'm not saying people on our set, but
Speaker 1: from people we grew up with, or things like that.
Speaker 1: We heard actors where it was like, well, I drive
Speaker 1: him around. I had to quit my job, so this
Speaker 1: is my job now, so I get paid, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to get paid. And it's like that's
Speaker 1: your mom. You know. It's like and you you get
Speaker 1: into this weird kind of gray area, which is again
Speaker 1: I never had to deal with because both my parents
Speaker 1: were lawyers and they're like, hey, we'll drive you to
Speaker 1: the bus, but you gotta you gotta do you um,
Speaker 1: but your public transportation on the East Coast and yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody had to actually be. And by the way, when
Speaker 1: a parent, especially a single parent, gives up a job
Speaker 1: to be able to take there, how are they supposed
Speaker 1: to make rent and pay for a car payment in
Speaker 1: car insurance and all groceries? Like? There is you know,
Speaker 1: there is there are certain expenses that are that makes
Speaker 1: sense for a child who is kind of taken over
Speaker 1: the family's day to day responsibilities for them for some
Speaker 1: of their income to supplement some of that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and then and then what is the appropriate amount becomes
Speaker 1: a real gray area. Um. So yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1: There's so many things I think about that I think
Speaker 1: it really is no surprise at all when it when
Speaker 1: it doesn't go the way. It's when it doesn't go
Speaker 1: right for a child actor in the entertainment industry, it
Speaker 1: actually makes it's actually it's so rare that it go
Speaker 1: the right way, because it's just it's it's too it's
Speaker 1: too gray. People always ask you, guys, I would say,
Speaker 1: the biggest question I get, aside from like would you
Speaker 1: put your children in acting? Which is very common, but
Speaker 1: how did you escape? Because I think, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the four of us did okay, like we aren't you know,
Speaker 1: but we all know a lot of people who had
Speaker 1: really rough roads and like got down the wrong track.
Speaker 1: So do you guys get asked that question a lot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, not even in the
Speaker 1: form of question. I get it as a sort of
Speaker 1: like weird backhanded compliment, like you're so healthy that it's
Speaker 1: like I think, okay, thank you. But yeah, it's also
Speaker 1: there's something there's something very interesting about There's the mentality
Speaker 1: too of you know, hey, I was on a long
Speaker 1: running sitcom and then I went and did something else
Speaker 1: with my life. It's not oh, man, you are awesome
Speaker 1: and really successful as an actor and then decided to
Speaker 1: do something else. It's oh you you couldn't work again
Speaker 1: after that thing, right, Like that's that's what happened. And
Speaker 1: it's not like no, no, no, I because we've got
Speaker 1: like you talked about, uh, step by Step. Stacy Keenan
Speaker 1: was in everything on Step by Step. She's like the
Speaker 1: district attorney of Los Angeles now, so there's like I'm
Speaker 1: a lawyer. Yeah, she's a lawyer. So it's nobody would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're not you know, they didn't want
Speaker 1: you in the business anymore. It's like, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to do this anymore. And I was hugely successful
Speaker 1: in the business and now I have found another love
Speaker 1: and huge and successful doing something there. But there is
Speaker 1: this stigma of you're a child actor and now you're
Speaker 1: not working all the time. You failed, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's an assumption of it's an assumption of like a
Speaker 1: success ladder, like you know, I think when you start acting,
Speaker 1: there's like, especially as a kid, there's like you get
Speaker 1: this job, and then you get this job, and then
Speaker 1: you get this job, and it's like the end result
Speaker 1: is what that you become an a list actor, winning
Speaker 1: Academy Awards, and that is so that is like the
Speaker 1: two percent of people who if that's the point one
Speaker 1: percent of people who decided to be actors, and of
Speaker 1: child actors that is even fewer. There's this pressure that
Speaker 1: and I remember feeling it and talking about it constantly
Speaker 1: that like, oh there, this is you know, Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World is part of a progression that should continue, and like,
Speaker 1: I just wish I could go back and tell my
Speaker 1: younger self, don't worry about it, man, just be where
Speaker 1: you are right now and start figuring out what you
Speaker 1: care about outside of this sort of need for fame
Speaker 1: and success and money in this context, and like really
Speaker 1: focus on those things because that you know, those are
Speaker 1: the things that are always going to be there, that
Speaker 1: that they're not out of your hands, because a life
Speaker 1: in the arts is unpredictable and it has very little
Speaker 1: to do with actual talent. It has everything to do
Speaker 1: with timing. And you know, when we talk to the
Speaker 1: casting directors for our show, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it seems so arbitrary whether somebody actually gets cast in
Speaker 1: something or not. Speaking of that, Marla, did you remember
Speaker 1: so um did you audition for Ta Panga earlier in
Speaker 1: the week before you auditioned to be Paige? Did you also?
Speaker 1: I mean I was Paige and then I remember we
Speaker 1: did a table read and there was I hope I'm
Speaker 1: telling this story. There was a difference to Panca correct correct, yes, so,
Speaker 1: and then she went somewhere we don't know where she went.
Speaker 1: And then they were like, okay, we need to find
Speaker 1: a new topanga. And I remember, like it was you
Speaker 1: and meet when was there maybe one of the girl
Speaker 1: who went. I think it was just you and me.
Speaker 1: It was just you and me, and it's I don't
Speaker 1: I think for some reason. I remember being at the
Speaker 1: Burbank Airport, like going back home. You were you were okay,
Speaker 1: because you go you were you were I think going
Speaker 1: home almost every weekend. I get like, you weren't just
Speaker 1: joking you guys. Wasn't the schedule like a Monday through
Speaker 1: Friday because Friday Thursday, it would have been Friday evening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was a Friday afternoon. So yeah, so I
Speaker 1: so you got the okay, So this is that I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I auditioned for Topanga early in early in
Speaker 1: the week and didn't get a call back, and then
Speaker 1: auditioned for what we have lovingly dubbed fish Girls girl
Speaker 1: the girl next to Page. I auditioned for that like
Speaker 1: the next day and got that part. I knew. I
Speaker 1: was like I after I mean, I literally didn't even
Speaker 1: get a call back on to Beango walked out and
Speaker 1: they were like, not her. And then I got fish Girl.
Speaker 1: And so then on Friday we showed up for table Read.
Speaker 1: There was a different to Pengga. You were Page. I
Speaker 1: had like one or two lines to your kind of
Speaker 1: bigger part as Page, and um I watched then those
Speaker 1: scenes that we were in where Topanga was also in
Speaker 1: I watched David Trainer work with her, and I had
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I totally see why I didn't
Speaker 1: get a call back on this. I was not doing
Speaker 1: anything they're asking. I was terrible in that role, Like,
Speaker 1: no wonder I didn't get a call back. And then
Speaker 1: they ended up letting her go at the end of
Speaker 1: that day. And it was basically like, these two girls
Speaker 1: are here, Marla and Danielle, let's bring them in. And
Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you talk about it, because one
Speaker 1: of my questions was do you remember this week being
Speaker 1: as stressful as I do? And You're like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not like you haven't getten to you. It was
Speaker 1: not even to you. It was so not stressful. You
Speaker 1: were like I think I was going to and I
Speaker 1: think I was at the airport and I was like dying.
Speaker 1: I was so stressed out. And I also remember feeling
Speaker 1: this awkwardness of like you and I had been hanging
Speaker 1: out all day, we had become friends, you know, to
Speaker 1: twelve year old girls who are excited to be on
Speaker 1: the show, and you know, just you had a lot
Speaker 1: more experience than I did, but you were I just
Speaker 1: remember being like this is so fun, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden being like we're gonna need you to
Speaker 1: to come over here, and then them just handing us pages,
Speaker 1: and then there was no um competition feeling between us,
Speaker 1: but more just a feeling of like, oh so weird.
Speaker 1: I thought I had already envisioned the week that the
Speaker 1: two of us were going to be together in these scenes,
Speaker 1: like we're we're friends on the show. We were going
Speaker 1: to be friends this whole week, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's a possibility one of us is leaving
Speaker 1: that role behind and possibly changing over to another role.
Speaker 1: So it's like you had like it's so crazy because
Speaker 1: when you at my age now or our age now,
Speaker 1: looking back on it, it's like it was so clear
Speaker 1: that it was you and you like did such a
Speaker 1: fantastic job, and if you think me as Tapanga, it
Speaker 1: would be just such a different role and such, you know,
Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason, and that was such
Speaker 1: a huge life changing thing for you. I don't remember
Speaker 1: ever feeling you could correct me if I'm wrotten, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, bitter about it or competitive about I remember
Speaker 1: like you had to put like foam on your face
Speaker 1: to lip stick the lipstick, like I just remember that
Speaker 1: so clearly. Um, and that's how we took the lipstick off.
Speaker 1: I think it was like shaving cream. I think shaving
Speaker 1: creams helped take the lipstick off. So then there it
Speaker 1: was not competitive. They didn't just break a bottle and
Speaker 1: drop it in the middle of you and go, let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. I feel like I've been before with
Speaker 1: other actress friends where it's like I've gotten it, They've
Speaker 1: gotten it, and they've been like, Okay, Daniel, you can
Speaker 1: go home, you know, like writer, you can stay, and
Speaker 1: you're just like this is like my friend right, really awkward.
Speaker 1: That'd be the worst when they did that in front
Speaker 1: of it. They did that in front of people like
Speaker 1: you can stay, you can stay, you guys can go home,
Speaker 1: and it's like yikes. They would do that in theater
Speaker 1: all the time. That was like a major because they
Speaker 1: would have these like workshop, these sessions that were kind
Speaker 1: of like rehearsals and to be mixing and matching people.
Speaker 1: I just remember, like when I lived in New York,
Speaker 1: constantly going to auditions and then being like you can
Speaker 1: go home now, and then you'd call back the next day.
Speaker 1: And be like, we actually want to bring you back happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I health. I think a healthy attitude is like
Speaker 1: it's just play and it doesn't really matter. But it's
Speaker 1: so hard, it's so hard to get your heart like broken.
Speaker 1: And the actors are emotional people. Actors are by nature,
Speaker 1: by by nature, emotional people, empathetic emotional people, and so
Speaker 1: you put yourself into these things and if any anybody's
Speaker 1: like me, you start you're sitting in the room and
Speaker 1: you're already starting to imagine what it's going to be
Speaker 1: like to be on said and oh god, I can
Speaker 1: already can see what this character is going to be like.
Speaker 1: And but and then it's like hi, Bill, you can go,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's actually will but okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean it happens all the time. Well, and the
Speaker 1: worst part about telling you is they make you sign
Speaker 1: your contract before you get you envisioned some money. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: one of one of my favorite stories that I still
Speaker 1: talk about is that I was like thirteen and I
Speaker 1: was just out in l A for one of my
Speaker 1: first times ever, and I had a general meeting with
Speaker 1: a big casting director and I walked in and we
Speaker 1: had a nice night, gave her my picture and resume,
Speaker 1: and um, I thought I had given her too by accident,
Speaker 1: and it was like the last two that I had
Speaker 1: and my parents and I walked out and I went, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: I think she has my last picture and resume. Have
Speaker 1: to go get it. And I walked back in and said,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I think I left a picture of resume
Speaker 1: here and she went, yeah, it's in the trash. And
Speaker 1: I literally had to walk to the trash can at
Speaker 1: thirteen and pull out my picture and resume and like
Speaker 1: wipe it off and walk out of the walk out
Speaker 1: of the room. And so it's that's what you would get.
Speaker 1: And again as an after, you go thank you and
Speaker 1: you walk, you walk out of the room exactly. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it was your trash can as a final but
Speaker 1: it's But of course then I made a joke about it.
Speaker 1: I made my mom laugh hysterically. Then for months after
Speaker 1: where she'd be like, where's looks in the trash and like,
Speaker 1: but you have to you like start making because it's
Speaker 1: just you could be harsh, it could be really really harsh.
Speaker 1: So thankfully, thankfully Marla and I there was none of
Speaker 1: that feeling between Marla and I like we I found out,
Speaker 1: I got the I got to Panga that night. I
Speaker 1: went back to work on Monday. I was nervous that
Speaker 1: maybe it would be weird, and it wasn't at all.
Speaker 1: We just went right back into being two girls who
Speaker 1: were friends. And now there was a new girl there
Speaker 1: who was going to be um fish girl was taking
Speaker 1: you had the two of you audition together for anything before.
Speaker 1: Was there like a community of actors that you were
Speaker 1: always with in Los Angeles? Like you guys had seen
Speaker 1: each other at every kind of audition or No, probably,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember time yet. Yeah, but over the
Speaker 1: years I saw you at auditions exactly over the years,
Speaker 1: then we would see each other. But but I don't
Speaker 1: think yeah. I mean, I also don't really remember going on.
Speaker 1: I had done all those commercials at ten or eleven,
Speaker 1: but I don't really remember a whole lot of TV
Speaker 1: show auditions. I wasn't quite getting those auditions yet, I
Speaker 1: think because I was too green. My agent at the
Speaker 1: time was like, we'll put you in a commercial workshop class,
Speaker 1: and then I was basically like a commercial actor. Um,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Full House was one of my
Speaker 1: first ever jobs. I did two episodes of Full House
Speaker 1: before I did Boy Meat's World. Um, So, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: weird because in New York you were always with the
Speaker 1: same like people every single time the room was always
Speaker 1: the same people. And I think that's the case. I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: Danielle was just too brand new. I think she just
Speaker 1: like landed on Boy Meats World so early, because like
Speaker 1: Marla and I knew each other, Like there was a
Speaker 1: small community of people that we kept seeing, we all knew,
Speaker 1: and like that's the irony is like all of those
Speaker 1: people that like Marla and I hung out with at
Speaker 1: um at the oak Woods ended up on Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World at some point, you know, like they would guests
Speaker 1: start at one point or another, or they would be
Speaker 1: backstage hanging out with us because we just knew each other.
Speaker 1: It was there was a sense of community, and it's
Speaker 1: something that happens when you know, we're talking about making
Speaker 1: the transition into being an adult actor. Part of the
Speaker 1: challenges the pool gets bigger, Yeah, competition gets more fierce.
Speaker 1: Like if you're a kid who can hit your marks
Speaker 1: and say your lines, you're like one in a million
Speaker 1: just just for that alone. And so there was a
Speaker 1: there's a there's a sense in which, like you're the
Speaker 1: it gets weeded out very quickly, and it gets down
Speaker 1: to just the five people who like fit this type
Speaker 1: and come to Ellen and whose parents are willing to
Speaker 1: commute for them, and so the pool is very small
Speaker 1: and when you hit like I remember being like twenty
Speaker 1: two plus and going to auditions and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh oh, people are coming out of n y U
Speaker 1: now like actors. Actors have been getting trained, and those
Speaker 1: are the people I'm up against, like the you know,
Speaker 1: they were no names before and now they're like skilled,
Speaker 1: trained actors, and like the competition just got fiercer. You know.
Speaker 1: You were also Joey's sister on Friends? What was that like?
Speaker 1: Was that a more fun set than Boy Meets World?
Speaker 1: Who had a fun or set? You want to know
Speaker 1: something so funny? It's like the same situation. There was
Speaker 1: another actress playing the sister and I wasn't on the show,
Speaker 1: but I got a call, like a last minute call
Speaker 1: being like, they need to find Joey's sister. Can you
Speaker 1: be at Warner Brothers at like noon or something like that,
Speaker 1: And actually very good for end of mine. One of
Speaker 1: my closest friends was one of the girls at the
Speaker 1: audition and still to this day she I'm not over friends.
Speaker 1: That never happened to me because he did that. They
Speaker 1: go Marlatte, you can stay, um, just wait, just wait
Speaker 1: for me right there, and they sent me right to
Speaker 1: Wardrop and everybody else. You can come home, like thanks
Speaker 1: for coming. And she was like so mortified. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: it's between us. She's like, when you they asked me
Speaker 1: to leave and you've got to stay. Do you never that?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that was another kind of like
Speaker 1: surreal experience because I was such a pan I mean
Speaker 1: I think that I think I did that when they
Speaker 1: were in there, like eighth season or something. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Then the new cool shows like the show, you know,
Speaker 1: show in the Country. Yeah, and I think I talked
Speaker 1: to like nobody. I was so nervous. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're done for understand, and she's so
Speaker 1: close to me, Like, I'm so star struck the whole time.
Speaker 1: Did you get to do the live show in front
Speaker 1: of the audience. Yeah, I also have been such an
Speaker 1: exciting show to be on because it's so much energy.
Speaker 1: I really wish I had gone to a taping of
Speaker 1: their show or any show. I didn't even try, like
Speaker 1: I did, never went to their taping, like when your
Speaker 1: mom brought you down, you didn't go to a taping
Speaker 1: for I went to Blossom. Wow. But this is like
Speaker 1: and you guys know from being on a sitcom, It's
Speaker 1: like I thought we were going to see Blossom. It's
Speaker 1: going to be great. I remember like our SIXA was like, um,
Speaker 1: can we get out of your And then like when
Speaker 1: people wanted to come to even like Buller House, like
Speaker 1: you know, any everybody was always asked me, can I
Speaker 1: come to a taping? I'm like, you don't want to
Speaker 1: come to a taping? Like now, forrest me, you can
Speaker 1: come like visit, you know, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1: They take your phone. Now you're like trapped in there.
Speaker 1: You know, people they don't really get it yet. I know.
Speaker 1: And you know when we were kids though, they were
Speaker 1: like three and a half hours because they yeah, they
Speaker 1: couldn't run long. But then you get into being an
Speaker 1: adult and someone wants to come to a taping, You're like,
Speaker 1: this is the worst you're gonna get it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be is if you're backstage our show backstage was like
Speaker 1: all about the taping and like a gathering aroundcraft service
Speaker 1: and video village. If you go backstage at like grown
Speaker 1: up shows, though, they would have basic heart as back
Speaker 1: catered dinner that was like open because like everyone from
Speaker 1: the network would come and then be like dressing rooms
Speaker 1: open because everybody would start drinking after like you know,
Speaker 1: the show was over. We did it, and like none
Speaker 1: of that happened on our show because we're like we
Speaker 1: were teenagers. And I did finally go to a taping
Speaker 1: in my twenties. I visited a friend of the show
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, this is this is what
Speaker 1: it could have been like if we were older. So
Speaker 1: I have not even gotten to the fact that, well
Speaker 1: I did. I mentioned that you were on seven seasons
Speaker 1: of The Practice, and writer you did two episodes of
Speaker 1: The Practice. Yeah, And I remember Marla coming over to
Speaker 1: my dressing with my trailer and we didn't get work together,
Speaker 1: but I remember her knocking on my door and like
Speaker 1: waking me up because I was sleeping. You know, I
Speaker 1: was Marlin knocking on your door because I had like
Speaker 1: five AM calls. That's the thing we see, we weren't
Speaker 1: used to that kind of crap because like on board
Speaker 1: these world, we had six new schedules put on the practice.
Speaker 1: It was a film schedule, so you had to be
Speaker 1: there at like six am, like, and I was just
Speaker 1: I remember being so weirded out by having to actually
Speaker 1: work like normal film outright. But I loved that show.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to be a part of it
Speaker 1: because I just thought it was such a high quality show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we didn't get to Workgether, but I remember
Speaker 1: I loved that like every episode of really Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it. Wow, I loved it too, I really did.
Speaker 1: It was such a great experience, and you know we
Speaker 1: had I had the wonderful um position of being like
Speaker 1: the youngest and just everybody was there to you know,
Speaker 1: show me the ropes and you know, care for me.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't if there was ever any like cast drama,
Speaker 1: I didn't know about it because I was happy to
Speaker 1: be there the whole time. And yeah, it was great. Well,
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen you for years. And then we did
Speaker 1: Hollywood Darlings together and it was just like two days
Speaker 1: of just thrown together kind of like, oh, hey, it's
Speaker 1: just everybody's back. Hey, how's everybody doing. What's Hollywood Darlins?
Speaker 1: Hollywood doings was to show that that started Bacon and
Speaker 1: Joe that's right, and and and so it was we
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of threw everybody in from the
Speaker 1: nineties for a party's supposed to be the two thousand's
Speaker 1: are the the year two thousand New Year's party at
Speaker 1: my house? Um, and so everybody's there and I'm dating
Speaker 1: all three of the women at the same time, but
Speaker 1: I end up actually with Marla at the end. Uh So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just fun. But so many people you hadn't seen,
Speaker 1: and you're kind of like in this club, this like
Speaker 1: nineties club, which we felt when we were at nineties
Speaker 1: Con where we're just like everybody's back together again. It's
Speaker 1: it's so strange. It's a fun kind of bond, you know,
Speaker 1: you just pick up right where you left off. So, Marlot,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you have a ten year old. You
Speaker 1: have a total of three daughters, what are their ages? Ten? Ten,
Speaker 1: seven and seven months? Seven months? New one over decided
Speaker 1: to join our family, and we also we have, um
Speaker 1: we have I have a one year old, so am
Speaker 1: I have one that's not that that much older than yours. Um.
Speaker 1: But also we have both dress right I do, I
Speaker 1: have I have to Yeah, I have I have a
Speaker 1: three year old son and a one year old son.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, um, yeah, I mean not as busy
Speaker 1: as with three and a seven months. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you do it. Agree with nine years split like
Speaker 1: that is so intense. Yeah, yeah, it's your ten year
Speaker 1: old helpful with your so helpful. Like he said to me, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a built in babysitter. And I kept thinking,
Speaker 1: this seems someone fair to put this on her, like
Speaker 1: she didn't decide to have a baby, Like why everybody
Speaker 1: was always saying that, like you gotta help mommy. But
Speaker 1: I would always say to her, how many of you
Speaker 1: want to you know, like this isn't your this isn't
Speaker 1: your responsibility. Um. But she has taken it on and
Speaker 1: they really have. I mean it's crazy. It's actually ten
Speaker 1: year difference. Their birthdays two days apart, so they it's
Speaker 1: just this whist relationship. And my middle daughter too, she's
Speaker 1: very helpful. I mean she's only seven, so she's a
Speaker 1: little less intend But you know, you you remember because
Speaker 1: you're in the thick of it, Danielle. But like you know,
Speaker 1: when you want to take a shower and you're like,
Speaker 1: why do I put this kid? What do I do?
Speaker 1: How do I really quickly? And you know I could
Speaker 1: just like can you watch her really quickly? So honestly,
Speaker 1: it's been just such a different experience and she's you know,
Speaker 1: really made it a lot easier. But again, I don't
Speaker 1: ever like push that on her because she's not you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be a cool relationship though. My oldest brothers eight
Speaker 1: years older than me, and we always had there's always
Speaker 1: that kind of like it's almost like a second parent
Speaker 1: in a way. But when you can really talk to
Speaker 1: them about anything, um, so yeah, it's cool when you
Speaker 1: have that kind of big split. Yeah. Yeah. And now
Speaker 1: you are also you have moved behind the camera. You
Speaker 1: are now a director. How do you know? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you make that transition? What? What what was
Speaker 1: the idea behind it? What made that made you realize
Speaker 1: you wanted to do that. I want to know everything
Speaker 1: about this, like second stage of your career. Okay, so basically,
Speaker 1: in the times that we don't work, you know, it
Speaker 1: could be a year, it could be a week. I
Speaker 1: was just writing content, you know, just things that I
Speaker 1: was keeping myself busy with, and um, just because you know,
Speaker 1: I always want to feel like I'm doing something when
Speaker 1: you're waiting for your agent to give you an audition,
Speaker 1: which was the most frustrating feeling to me. Um And
Speaker 1: I was at a bar with my husband one night
Speaker 1: and I was hysterically crying because I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Daniel, I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 1: have any other skills, Like what am I gonna do
Speaker 1: with life? I can't. And I also felt like I
Speaker 1: had these two small children and they're always seeing me
Speaker 1: like kind of identify with something that supposed to make
Speaker 1: me happy, and if I didn't get a part, it
Speaker 1: would be just like so upsetting to me. And that
Speaker 1: was upsetting to me. I'm like, why do I care
Speaker 1: so much? Still, like this is crazy? And so he
Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, you know what, you
Speaker 1: have so many scripts, just go make one of them.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean? And he
Speaker 1: he was just like, get a camera, get a crew together,
Speaker 1: and put something out there, like you know, put to
Speaker 1: plan into action. If you want to direct, you should direct.
Speaker 1: And within like a few weeks, you know, I just
Speaker 1: called up people that I knew, like a cinematographer friend
Speaker 1: of mine and a sound you know mixer who I
Speaker 1: went to high school with, who like won an Academy
Speaker 1: Award for Lalla Land, and you know, people want to help,
Speaker 1: which is amazing, And I made a short and fell
Speaker 1: in love. I I was just like, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to be doing. And I felt
Speaker 1: this intense poll and I took up like two and
Speaker 1: a half years from acting to just shadow and um,
Speaker 1: you know, learn as much as I could and get
Speaker 1: the opportunities. And then finally one of the directors I
Speaker 1: had shadowed put me up for a movie um that
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to direct. And then I went and
Speaker 1: took the meeting and I got it, which was full
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. Like I was like, oh, oh okay, great, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I could do this totally. Um like, no, I came
Speaker 1: to the meeting, which means I am equipped to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and um yeah. It was just it's been
Speaker 1: so nice to kind of step away and be part
Speaker 1: of the creative process in such a different way, but
Speaker 1: still like have that love of acting and knowing what
Speaker 1: the actors are going through and being able to communicate
Speaker 1: with them. In ways that I which directors would have
Speaker 1: been able to talk to me. Um, it's just been
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. I mean the fallout from it is,
Speaker 1: you know, people like your fans or my mother is
Speaker 1: like such a shame that you don't know it's existing.
Speaker 1: Is It's exactly. It's exactly what Will was saying. If
Speaker 1: people don't see you in the same medium they're used
Speaker 1: to seeing you, they think, I guess it's just over
Speaker 1: for them. I don't know what they're doing, as opposed
Speaker 1: to thinking they moved into some other new career. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. It's your mom though too, putting yourself
Speaker 1: in one of the ones you're direct Maybe you want
Speaker 1: to do that. Actually, that is a good question. Have
Speaker 1: you thought about that, because I know you've directed a
Speaker 1: few Hallmark movies. Yeah, I've done Lifetime, which similar very um.
Speaker 1: So the short that I'm telling that I started with
Speaker 1: I was in. UM. It was me and my friend
Speaker 1: Judy career. Um. It was kind of like one of
Speaker 1: those things that we were making fun of the preschool
Speaker 1: my kids were going to, because when you would walk
Speaker 1: into their preschool there was a big build um bulletin
Speaker 1: board that had everybody's picture and what they were allergic to.
Speaker 1: I mean, my kids weren't allergic to anything. Luckily I
Speaker 1: don't have a child with but I just was like,
Speaker 1: read die number forty. Really I didn't think that's an allergy.
Speaker 1: I think that your mom just doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: have that. I made short ridiculous. That was a real
Speaker 1: that that didn't make it up. Wow, And you know,
Speaker 1: just kids having like crazy names and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: So um, but I was in that and and I
Speaker 1: really realized, you know, in the shooting of that, like
Speaker 1: every time it was time for me to go back
Speaker 1: in front of the camera, and it was obviously my
Speaker 1: first time directing, I felt not sad, but I was
Speaker 1: just kind of like, oh, okay, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as I didn't feel like I could do
Speaker 1: both well, you know, I wanted to be really great
Speaker 1: at the thing I was focusing on, and it felt
Speaker 1: like almost a distraction. I mean, I think eventually, I
Speaker 1: think the space I work in is like a little
Speaker 1: bit lower in the budget world. If I were to
Speaker 1: do something it was like fifty million dollars, I was like,
Speaker 1: let's shoot one scene a day and I'll bring that,
Speaker 1: you know, a body double, Like I think, like now,
Speaker 1: it's just like everything so quick that I would feel
Speaker 1: stressed by that. Aren't those? Aren't those lifetime movie shot
Speaker 1: in like ten days and it's like you have a
Speaker 1: full film script in like ten or eleven days or shooting.
Speaker 1: It's not ten, but it's close. It's like anywhere from
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty. Um. Actually, the last one I just
Speaker 1: did was thirteen and I won't I won't do that again.
Speaker 1: That was I'm about to start one that's fourteen. You
Speaker 1: can do it. You could do fourteen. How long is
Speaker 1: the script? Um, it's a I don't know, it's a
Speaker 1: full it's like hundred hundred five pages. Kind what is
Speaker 1: the one that you're doing? It's for to be. No,
Speaker 1: it's not holiday, it's for to be. It's a college comedy.
Speaker 1: So the good news is we are shooting on a
Speaker 1: college campus, and the college campus has a lot of
Speaker 1: the locations we need. A majority of the movie takes
Speaker 1: place on a college campus, and the campus we picked
Speaker 1: everything is like the set ups in different places. It
Speaker 1: will be very close, Like we can definitely have people
Speaker 1: setting up by the time we're done with this one
Speaker 1: will be mostly set up over there, um, and then
Speaker 1: we found one other location that also houses some of
Speaker 1: like a majority of the other ones. We're hoping to
Speaker 1: only have like two maybe three company moves in the
Speaker 1: whole time, which will save us a ton of time.
Speaker 1: But still I'm very nervous about it. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Writer and I have a zoom later today
Speaker 1: where writer is going to talk me off a ledge, right,
Speaker 1: Are I need you? So? Marla? I may call on
Speaker 1: you as well, because I actually did another movie that
Speaker 1: was you guys are Gonna Die and I haven't even
Speaker 1: told people like how many days this was. So I
Speaker 1: did a movie that it was an Indian I loved
Speaker 1: the script so much, called Roselle Day. It's actually gonna
Speaker 1: be streaming in November, but we shot it. Are you
Speaker 1: ready in five days? Did it all take place in
Speaker 1: one room? How did you back you out? You have to, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: get an advice that you're not asking for. It's like
Speaker 1: two I am asking really kind of get with your
Speaker 1: actors and make sure that they're prepared because unfortunately, your
Speaker 1: preparation relies heavily on them coming and like showing up.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have somebody take you down like that.
Speaker 1: So that's a big one. And then the location is
Speaker 1: a big one. And then just you know, your shot
Speaker 1: list is going to look completely different than it ever
Speaker 1: would look because you can't do the long, you know
Speaker 1: list that you're used to. I know, That's what I was.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking to writer about today. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so I have twelve setups in this one um one
Speaker 1: and a half page scene. Is that gonna work? Is that's?
Speaker 1: How is that going to go? Uh? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. And then and then having three children,
Speaker 1: like I am, truthfully, this is it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: fourteen day shoot, and I'm we're probably gonna be shooting
Speaker 1: seven to seven, and that means I will have to
Speaker 1: leave my house at six and I won't get home
Speaker 1: until eight, which means from six am to eight pm
Speaker 1: at the earliest, I won't see my children. My children
Speaker 1: get up at six thirty and my my oldest son
Speaker 1: goes to bed at seven thirty, So I won't see
Speaker 1: my kids for those fourteen days. Now, granted there are
Speaker 1: weekends in between. I think we're doing We're doing five
Speaker 1: day weeks Monday through Friday and then I will get
Speaker 1: the weekend with them. But I've never not seen my
Speaker 1: kids for five days, like I've never I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never done that. Um. So I am like, I
Speaker 1: don't when I talked to other working parents and I
Speaker 1: and you know, because people ask me all the time,
Speaker 1: how do you do it? And I think I don't know?
Speaker 1: Tons of help is the number one answer. I have
Speaker 1: a fantastic nanny. I would not be able to do
Speaker 1: it alone. My house have been disabled to be present.
Speaker 1: But my husband wrote this movie. I'm about to start directing,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna he's gonna want to be there. Um
Speaker 1: And so I just like, really, marlat, how do you?
Speaker 1: How do you do it all? I mean, the one
Speaker 1: tip I'm going to give you on that front with
Speaker 1: the kids is, um, I did a movie in Utah
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was a Christmas and
Speaker 1: it was the first time I even left. I didn't
Speaker 1: even leave to act. It was like I'm leaving and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gone. Because I had, you know, prep
Speaker 1: first and then and um, I had I could send
Speaker 1: it to you. I made like a schedule. I guess
Speaker 1: you have a one year old it's so different. My
Speaker 1: daughters were four and seven at the time, but like
Speaker 1: every day they had stuff to do, you know, it
Speaker 1: was like the nanny would pick them up and they
Speaker 1: would go here, they would go there, and so I
Speaker 1: never I could shut that part of my brain off
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to. You can't be a piano,
Speaker 1: you know. You have to just let your fantastic nanny
Speaker 1: do the things and only contact you if you know,
Speaker 1: we had a time, a set time every day that
Speaker 1: we would face time, and I knew I could do
Speaker 1: it um and just have it all planned out. It's
Speaker 1: like your director prep, you know, but you got right prep.
Speaker 1: It's just like a whole extra set of you know,
Speaker 1: things for you to do. But it's just gonna make
Speaker 1: your life so much easier, you know, family prep a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. Yeah, but I am. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is exactly the same thing I've already started thinking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: so is Jensen going to take my kid to school
Speaker 1: in the morning and then he gets picked up at midday,
Speaker 1: so our nanny will have to pick him up at midday,
Speaker 1: and you know it is it's just it, it's it's
Speaker 1: the family prep that goes into it and then the
Speaker 1: normal work prep that is working parents is I mean, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really to every working parent, I
Speaker 1: just you are a superstar because it's it is. It's
Speaker 1: so hard, and it's so hard to feel like you're
Speaker 1: good at both. You know that, like kids will be
Speaker 1: great like you won't. They're not going to do any
Speaker 1: crazy like mommy, don't go like, They're just gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, they'll be good for kids to see mom,
Speaker 1: you know, going to work and fulfilling her dreams and
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So to ask your mom's question,
Speaker 1: do you see yourself ever wanting to jump in front
Speaker 1: of the camera? Are you still audition? Have you told
Speaker 1: your agents just take you out of it, you're going
Speaker 1: to focus full time on directing. Where do you stand
Speaker 1: with that? I'm definitely focusing full time undirecting. I haven't
Speaker 1: had an audition in a jillion years, But I never
Speaker 1: had the conversation with my agents. I think they kind
Speaker 1: of just caught on that, you know, that was kind
Speaker 1: of more my focus. Um, I think I'm now just starting.
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been the first I think it's
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen is when I kind of pulled away.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm just now starting to feel like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad if I got something, you know,
Speaker 1: it could be kind of fun to go do you
Speaker 1: know a little something. The part that I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to revisit is that hustle of like do you like me?
Speaker 1: Do you want to hire me? No? What about you
Speaker 1: do you like? I really got burnt out, really truly
Speaker 1: got burned down. I would pull up to auditions and
Speaker 1: I would want to drive away, like I physically kind
Speaker 1: of go in because you know they always say, like
Speaker 1: once it's not fun, don't do it. It really did
Speaker 1: get unfun for me. Yeah, auditioning is really hard. It's
Speaker 1: a every aspect of it is difficult. Like I I
Speaker 1: was never great at auditioning. I was one of those
Speaker 1: people who at home could really do a performance that
Speaker 1: I felt like there, I feel like this is the
Speaker 1: best I can do with it. And then you walk
Speaker 1: into the room and there's so many factors that are
Speaker 1: completely out of your control. Who else is in the room,
Speaker 1: how thin the walls are, whether you could hear somebody
Speaker 1: else auditioning, and then you hear them do something and
Speaker 1: you go, oh gosh, I'm not doing that? Am I missing?
Speaker 1: Should I? And then you look back down at your
Speaker 1: sides you start questioning the decisions you've made. And then
Speaker 1: you go in there and the first thought you have
Speaker 1: is like, now all those people are listening to me
Speaker 1: do my audition. And then if you start off on
Speaker 1: the wrong foot, even with the slate, I mean, there
Speaker 1: were times that I would walk into an audition and
Speaker 1: back when they used to say, like okay, say your name,
Speaker 1: your age, your height, and your weight, and then they
Speaker 1: pan the camera up and down your body while you
Speaker 1: do a slow turn and then start your scene, and
Speaker 1: like any insecurity, you have starts coming out and then
Speaker 1: you have to deliver a performance where you hope they
Speaker 1: just that they think it's good, and you know that
Speaker 1: that tape is now going to somebody. It's every aspect
Speaker 1: of it is brutal. I think we we also because
Speaker 1: we started working so young. I think you go through
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows no matter what you do for a career,
Speaker 1: and when you've been in something anything for thirty years,
Speaker 1: you get burned out on it. I don't care what
Speaker 1: it is. You just after a while it's like I'm
Speaker 1: doing the same thing thirty years. I mean, we have.
Speaker 1: You know, it's certainly different what we do with certain
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. People are constantly amazed at the what
Speaker 1: we call the zero to a thousand where you're not
Speaker 1: doing anything for two weeks and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're doing everything for a month, and then you're not
Speaker 1: doing everything for three weeks. I mean, it's like you're
Speaker 1: either it's feast or famine. Um, but I don't care
Speaker 1: what you're doing, any job you do after you just
Speaker 1: get burnt. It's just like, I can't do this right
Speaker 1: now anymore. And that doesn't mean you're not gonna come
Speaker 1: back and you're not gonna find the love for it again,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But I think it's okay to step
Speaker 1: back and just go, wow, this this isn't for me
Speaker 1: right now. But there is something unique to acting like
Speaker 1: that I've noticed, Like when I get rejected on a
Speaker 1: writing pitch or directing pitch, no problem, Like just walk
Speaker 1: away going like that person is horrible to if I
Speaker 1: get rejected as an actor. And this is why I'm
Speaker 1: not acting anymore, is because I would. It was like
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a rejection of me. It
Speaker 1: felt like a rejection of of my my face, my voice,
Speaker 1: my my my personhood in some like very real way.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that that probably just goes
Speaker 1: back to the personal psychology of being a child actor,
Speaker 1: because when I talked to the most successful actors, I know,
Speaker 1: they have a great cavalier attitude about keep rejection. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like they still want it and it still hurts,
Speaker 1: but they're also like, this is the job here I am,
Speaker 1: you know, and I just couldn't never do that. I
Speaker 1: just was like, uh so part of being burnt out
Speaker 1: was like losing that ability to just like bring it
Speaker 1: back up again and show it off and then get
Speaker 1: rejected and then do it the next day. Like, No,
Speaker 1: that was in a different boat because I wanted to
Speaker 1: keep going and my mental health said not not gonna
Speaker 1: let you do that. So that's what stopped me was
Speaker 1: when you know, I wanted to keep auditioning. I wanted
Speaker 1: that rush, I wanted that vibe, and then the anxiety
Speaker 1: hit and it was just like, no, we're not We're
Speaker 1: not letting you do this anymore. And then I kind
Speaker 1: of went back more philosophical about it was like, well,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I needed the break and everything, but it
Speaker 1: was yeah, it's so strange to just see people's different
Speaker 1: journeys because it is it's such a personal thing acting
Speaker 1: and you know what you bring to it, what you
Speaker 1: want to bring to it. And and then the kind
Speaker 1: of seeing the people that then are successful, um, where
Speaker 1: they take it from there, because you do see some
Speaker 1: people that don't appreciate it when they get it. You
Speaker 1: see other people that are so appreciative even when they
Speaker 1: don't get it, just for the opportunity to do it. Um.
Speaker 1: And then you see some people that it's just all
Speaker 1: they've ever known. So it's like this is just this
Speaker 1: is just me. Um. Yeah, it's very strange. It is
Speaker 1: such a strange business to be in. It really is, Marla.
Speaker 1: Have you ever directed children? Yeah? So the preschool in
Speaker 1: l A that I was telling about kids, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Did did you feel now they were preschool age, so
Speaker 1: they were younger than you were when you started acting,
Speaker 1: But like, was there any part of you that felt
Speaker 1: like you were actually directing a young you No, not
Speaker 1: as a director, but as an actor. Throughout the years,
Speaker 1: I've seen like younger kids on set, and I mean
Speaker 1: even seeing them with like their you know, onset teacher
Speaker 1: or their mom, like it is kind of a strange feeling. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I haven't run into that yet where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you remind me of that time of
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah. I mostly direct Disney Channel sitcoms, so
Speaker 1: all of my directing experience is with twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen year old actors. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: I'm looking directly into my childhood face. And and it
Speaker 1: gave such an advantage, doesn't it, Like you're doing Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I did a pilot and it was started
Speaker 1: twelve year old, and um, it was so funny, Like
Speaker 1: it was a very you know, low but we did
Speaker 1: not have enough money. But but it was like once
Speaker 1: we can once we were casting this kid, I was
Speaker 1: able to say to the casting director and the producers,
Speaker 1: here's what we need to do. We need to meet
Speaker 1: the parents. I need to have dinner with the parents,
Speaker 1: and we need to have rehearsals where I hang out.
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, I knew what made me
Speaker 1: comfortable at that age with the directors, and it worked.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was like and rehearsal was mostly
Speaker 1: just hanging out with him, you know, like just making
Speaker 1: him comfortable with like me as a person and like
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and and then the parents like
Speaker 1: making the parents comfortable. And I remember our producers being like,
Speaker 1: what the parents, I'm like, trust me, that is the
Speaker 1: most important thing in this scenario. But we always had
Speaker 1: great directors. Boy, that was the thing. We always had
Speaker 1: great We had one great director after another great director
Speaker 1: that you could really trust, which was which was great.
Speaker 1: So that was super helpful. Yeah, that is definitely helpful.
Speaker 1: But also being able to, like one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things to do with when directing kids is really make
Speaker 1: them start thinking about their characters, telling them like, listen,
Speaker 1: you're the expert of your character. I can easily walk
Speaker 1: in here and tell you where you're going and where
Speaker 1: you're supposed to sit and what you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing while you're doing it. But ultimately, if it just
Speaker 1: says we walk in and this character is sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch, what time of day is it? What would
Speaker 1: your character be doing at this time of day? So
Speaker 1: before school, after school, is it a weekend? What is
Speaker 1: your character like to do? Are they on their phone?
Speaker 1: Are they reading a book? Are they into comics? Are
Speaker 1: they playing a game? You start thinking of those things,
Speaker 1: so that I can start relying on you to bring
Speaker 1: those things to the table instead of you just acting
Speaker 1: as though you're my I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want you to be a puppet. I want you to
Speaker 1: be an expert. I want you to think about what's
Speaker 1: happening for you in the story and what's what's propelling
Speaker 1: you forward. And like being able to have those kinds
Speaker 1: of conversations and seeing the lightbulbs go off in their
Speaker 1: head and for them to take agency over what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I just I love it because directors have given them
Speaker 1: that power none probably, And that's why it's so great
Speaker 1: to come from where you're coming from, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know exactly what to say because you wanted someone
Speaker 1: to say it to you. You know. Um, I think
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, it's it's really fun. And I get
Speaker 1: the same I got the sense Marlow, when you talking
Speaker 1: about the things you've directed, that you get that same
Speaker 1: um sense of accomplishment we get as actors. Directing other actors,
Speaker 1: watching other actors deliver incredible performances gives me the feeling
Speaker 1: as if I just did it myself. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, the rush you get watching someone just nail
Speaker 1: something and and knowing you're behind the camera watching it
Speaker 1: and you had a tiny little bit of help bringing
Speaker 1: it to that spot is just so rewarding. It's you're
Speaker 1: getting it's we're getting older. It's it's you. You hit it.
Speaker 1: You hit an age where all of a sudden, giving
Speaker 1: a gift is way more important than getting a gift.
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's you. It's that same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's that's how I knew I was getting older at
Speaker 1: Christmas or was like I can't wait to give this
Speaker 1: person this thing and I don't care what I get.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, just getting older. Yeah, that's really cool. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you came and joined us today. Um
Speaker 1: I I really I could sit and talk to you
Speaker 1: about this stuff forever. And I'm serious that I'm going
Speaker 1: to get your number and I'm probably going to hit
Speaker 1: you up to talk about my my panics. So that
Speaker 1: writer is not the only person I'm nicking too. It's
Speaker 1: got it. You're going to be great. But yeah, feel
Speaker 1: free to call me anytime you want. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me on you guys. This is the best.
Speaker 1: Give my love to Shiloh. Wait, tell us tell us
Speaker 1: where we can see you now, where we can find you,
Speaker 1: what projects of yours we can watch? Tell us everything,
Speaker 1: because I know everyone's gonna want to find you. Um,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram. Okay, suck off. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't really do any of the other ones, like
Speaker 1: dabbled but not really. Um, I'm sorry, is dabbled? A
Speaker 1: thing is dabbled? Something on dabbled, I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: hell is dabbled? Like, Okay, I'm getting old Dallas will
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Like what I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was? TikTok is something. It's like, what is dabble?
Speaker 1: What am I missing? Okay, movie coming on? A thriller
Speaker 1: that I directed past Nightmare Creepy. It's like a fatal
Speaker 1: attraction but the man becomes obsessed with the woman. That
Speaker 1: will be September twenty lifetime and um yeah, just a
Speaker 1: couple of things like coming up that you know who
Speaker 1: wants to hear about that now? But you probably quote
Speaker 1: it on Instagram. So Marla sockle off s O K
Speaker 1: O L O f F that is correct. And I'm
Speaker 1: going to need your help because one of my ultimate
Speaker 1: dreams is to be in a Hallmark Christmas movie. That's
Speaker 1: I just even one line. So I'm gonna need I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need your help with that. It happen for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Marla, Thank you bye. She literally
Speaker 1: doesn't age, and I'm using literally correctly by the way.
Speaker 1: She doesn't age. It's amazing. She's so amazing, and I
Speaker 1: love that. All these years later, you know, we we have,
Speaker 1: um not really kept in touch, and not for any
Speaker 1: particular reason. We just never really We would see each
Speaker 1: other a key aasionally at auditions here and there, and then, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I lived in Orange County growing up, and
Speaker 1: then around my mid twenties, I moved back to Orange County. Um,
Speaker 1: and so I then, as far as like having l
Speaker 1: A friends, I don't really have a whole lot of
Speaker 1: l A actor friends. I have you guys, and then
Speaker 1: I have you know, friends that I've known for a
Speaker 1: long time, like Jonathan and you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, my friend group are the
Speaker 1: same five or six girls I went to junior high
Speaker 1: in high school with, and I keep in touch with them,
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not. I don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of actor friends. And I think she's you know, She's
Speaker 1: worked literally NonStop since Boy Meats World went off the air.
Speaker 1: She was consistently working. She has an incredible career. I
Speaker 1: did not have such an incredible career, and um, we
Speaker 1: just had different friend groups. And so it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you start to wonder, like, I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's any bitterness about the fact that I ended
Speaker 1: up being the one who got to Penga and she didn't.
Speaker 1: We've never talked about it. We even though that week
Speaker 1: that we worked together went fine and there was no competition,
Speaker 1: you never really know, and then you wonder, like, over
Speaker 1: the years hearing hearing me tell the story of how
Speaker 1: I got to Pang and I've always said her name,
Speaker 1: it was me and Marla sockle Off, And I've always thought, like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if have I wonder if I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: said that. I wonder if that pisces her off, or
Speaker 1: if there's any I don't think she gave it a
Speaker 1: second thought. It sounds I mean, partly because she had
Speaker 1: her own great career right when she ended up on
Speaker 1: the practice, she was totally like probably stoked to be
Speaker 1: in a drama and doing, you know, like she just
Speaker 1: but she also just seems like one of those people
Speaker 1: that like had a healthy attitude about to Yeah, she
Speaker 1: just knew she was always going to work and find working.
Speaker 1: She actually had more a lot more experience than you
Speaker 1: already at that age. More in some ways she was
Speaker 1: better prepared for the rejection than you would have been.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to look at it. True. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if if the if the roles had been reversed, I
Speaker 1: bet you well you talked about how you thought you
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten the part and that that was super devastating.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like she didn't even give She was
Speaker 1: like the airport, you know, Okay, cool, And that's exactly
Speaker 1: my point is that it's amazing that like for me,
Speaker 1: it was the week is so indelible in my mind,
Speaker 1: and I could tell you exactly, yes, changed my life,
Speaker 1: and it was just another week in her life of
Speaker 1: a very successful, busy childhood career and then adult career.
Speaker 1: You can you can also tell the younger actors that
Speaker 1: learned that lesson and take that lesson heart, learn the
Speaker 1: rejection lesson where it's like, this is how it's going
Speaker 1: to be. I better thicken my skin up, or this
Speaker 1: is not for me and you can tell the people
Speaker 1: that that get that at eleven or twelve, because there
Speaker 1: are some, and I think she was one of them
Speaker 1: who was like, this is my job. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be all right, move on to the next one
Speaker 1: described herself when she was talking about like I don't
Speaker 1: know where this kut spun, this confidence came from. That's
Speaker 1: what I remember about her. Um when we used to
Speaker 1: hang out, she was one of the smartest, most in
Speaker 1: control of her life, like eleven year old I had
Speaker 1: ever met. I loved her back then. I was so
Speaker 1: I mean like I didn't I didn't actually have a
Speaker 1: crush on or anything. I just respected her so much
Speaker 1: like I do you remember, Like we we just formed
Speaker 1: this like mutual respect and and that's exactly who she was.
Speaker 1: She was like what you saw is what you got,
Speaker 1: and she had no apologies for it, like it was
Speaker 1: always just like she And in a way that a
Speaker 1: lot of young actors at eleven and twelve, especially girls
Speaker 1: at that time, it was all about insecurity. It was
Speaker 1: all about how do I make myself? What what men
Speaker 1: like you know? Or like how do I impress this
Speaker 1: casting director? How do I fit this role? And Marlon
Speaker 1: never she always gave and her mom. I remember her
Speaker 1: mom was also a very confident woman, and they were
Speaker 1: just very smart. And I just remember like going over
Speaker 1: to Marlow's apartment and feeling very comfortable with her and
Speaker 1: her mom, like as opposed to other moms that I remember,
Speaker 1: it was always like who do we have to please?
Speaker 1: How do we get at the job? How do we
Speaker 1: make that? And like there was just none of that
Speaker 1: rattled sense. She was always such a cool, confident kid.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, I love it. I love that we're
Speaker 1: that thirty years later, we're still able to like reconnect
Speaker 1: with people that you know that we knew back then,
Speaker 1: and it does. It's so it's so weird that it
Speaker 1: really does feel like no time has passed. Like I
Speaker 1: kind of sat there and talked to her for about
Speaker 1: anything for It's it's really fun. Well, thank you guys
Speaker 1: for joining us for this episode of pod Meats World.
Speaker 1: You can follow us on Instagram at pod Meats World Show.
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Speaker 1: I do want to see maps. I don't draw maps, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't like. I want to see your map. I
Speaker 1: want to see Will's callin. I'm gonna make a train town.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build like a whole little I want to see.
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