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Speaker 1: had like one or two lines to your kind of

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00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: bigger part as Page, and um I watched then those

428
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: scenes that we were in where Topanga was also in

429
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: I watched David Trainer work with her, and I had

430
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I totally see why I didn't

431
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 1: get a call back on this. I was not doing

432
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: anything they're asking. I was terrible in that role, Like,

433
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: no wonder I didn't get a call back. And then

434
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: they ended up letting her go at the end of

435
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: that day. And it was basically like, these two girls

436
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: are here, Marla and Danielle, let's bring them in. And

437
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you talk about it, because one

438
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: of my questions was do you remember this week being

439
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: as stressful as I do? And You're like, I don't know.

440
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like you haven't getten to you. It was

441
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: not even to you. It was so not stressful. You

442
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: were like I think I was going to and I

443
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: think I was at the airport and I was like dying.

444
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: I was so stressed out. And I also remember feeling

445
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: this awkwardness of like you and I had been hanging

446
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: out all day, we had become friends, you know, to

447
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: twelve year old girls who are excited to be on

448
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: the show, and you know, just you had a lot

449
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: more experience than I did, but you were I just

450
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: remember being like this is so fun, and then all

451
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden being like we're gonna need you to

452
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: to come over here, and then them just handing us pages,

453
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: and then there was no um competition feeling between us,

454
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: but more just a feeling of like, oh so weird.

455
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought I had already envisioned the week that the

456
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: two of us were going to be together in these scenes,

457
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: like we're we're friends on the show. We were going

458
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: to be friends this whole week, and then all of

459
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's a possibility one of us is leaving

460
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: that role behind and possibly changing over to another role.

461
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: So it's like you had like it's so crazy because

462
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: when you at my age now or our age now,

463
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: looking back on it, it's like it was so clear

464
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: that it was you and you like did such a

465
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: fantastic job, and if you think me as Tapanga, it

466
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: would be just such a different role and such, you know,

467
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason, and that was such

468
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: a huge life changing thing for you. I don't remember

469
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,719
Speaker 1: ever feeling you could correct me if I'm wrotten, but like,

470
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: you know, bitter about it or competitive about I remember

471
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: like you had to put like foam on your face

472
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: to lip stick the lipstick, like I just remember that

473
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: so clearly. Um, and that's how we took the lipstick off.

474
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: I think it was like shaving cream. I think shaving

475
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: creams helped take the lipstick off. So then there it

476
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: was not competitive. They didn't just break a bottle and

477
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: drop it in the middle of you and go, let's

478
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: see what happens. I feel like I've been before with

479
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: other actress friends where it's like I've gotten it, They've

480
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: gotten it, and they've been like, Okay, Daniel, you can

481
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: go home, you know, like writer, you can stay, and

482
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: you're just like this is like my friend right, really awkward.

483
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: That'd be the worst when they did that in front

484
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: of it. They did that in front of people like

485
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: you can stay, you can stay, you guys can go home,

486
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: and it's like yikes. They would do that in theater

487
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: all the time. That was like a major because they

488
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: would have these like workshop, these sessions that were kind

489
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: of like rehearsals and to be mixing and matching people.

490
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I just remember, like when I lived in New York,

491
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: constantly going to auditions and then being like you can

492
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: go home now, and then you'd call back the next day.

493
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: And be like, we actually want to bring you back happening. Yeah,

494
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: like I health. I think a healthy attitude is like

495
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: it's just play and it doesn't really matter. But it's

496
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: so hard, it's so hard to get your heart like broken.

497
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: And the actors are emotional people. Actors are by nature,

498
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: by by nature, emotional people, empathetic emotional people, and so

499
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: you put yourself into these things and if any anybody's

500
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: like me, you start you're sitting in the room and

501
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: you're already starting to imagine what it's going to be

502
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: like to be on said and oh god, I can

503
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: already can see what this character is going to be like.

504
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: And but and then it's like hi, Bill, you can go,

505
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: and it's like it's actually will but okay, thank you.

506
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean it happens all the time. Well, and the

507
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: worst part about telling you is they make you sign

508
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: your contract before you get you envisioned some money. Yeah. Now,

509
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: one of one of my favorite stories that I still

510
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: talk about is that I was like thirteen and I

511
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: was just out in l A for one of my

512
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: first times ever, and I had a general meeting with

513
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: a big casting director and I walked in and we

514
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: had a nice night, gave her my picture and resume,

515
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: and um, I thought I had given her too by accident,

516
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: and it was like the last two that I had

517
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: and my parents and I walked out and I went, oh, wait,

518
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: I think she has my last picture and resume. Have

519
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: to go get it. And I walked back in and said,

520
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: excuse me, I think I left a picture of resume

521
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: here and she went, yeah, it's in the trash. And

522
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: I literally had to walk to the trash can at

523
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: thirteen and pull out my picture and resume and like

524
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: wipe it off and walk out of the walk out

525
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: of the room. And so it's that's what you would get.

526
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: And again as an after, you go thank you and

527
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: you walk, you walk out of the room exactly. I'm

528
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: sorry it was your trash can as a final but

529
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: it's But of course then I made a joke about it.

530
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: I made my mom laugh hysterically. Then for months after

531
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: where she'd be like, where's looks in the trash and like,

532
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: but you have to you like start making because it's

533
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: just you could be harsh, it could be really really harsh.

534
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: So thankfully, thankfully Marla and I there was none of

535
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: that feeling between Marla and I like we I found out,

536
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: I got the I got to Panga that night. I

537
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: went back to work on Monday. I was nervous that

538
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: maybe it would be weird, and it wasn't at all.

539
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: We just went right back into being two girls who

540
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: were friends. And now there was a new girl there

541
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: who was going to be um fish girl was taking

542
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: you had the two of you audition together for anything before.

543
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Was there like a community of actors that you were

544
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: always with in Los Angeles? Like you guys had seen

545
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: each other at every kind of audition or No, probably,

546
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: but I don't remember time yet. Yeah, but over the

547
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: years I saw you at auditions exactly over the years,

548
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: then we would see each other. But but I don't

549
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: think yeah. I mean, I also don't really remember going on.

550
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: I had done all those commercials at ten or eleven,

551
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: but I don't really remember a whole lot of TV

552
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: show auditions. I wasn't quite getting those auditions yet, I

553
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: think because I was too green. My agent at the

554
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: time was like, we'll put you in a commercial workshop class,

555
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: and then I was basically like a commercial actor. Um,

556
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, Full House was one of my

557
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: first ever jobs. I did two episodes of Full House

558
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: before I did Boy Meat's World. Um, So, yeah, it's

559
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: weird because in New York you were always with the

560
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: same like people every single time the room was always

561
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: the same people. And I think that's the case. I think, honestly,

562
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Danielle was just too brand new. I think she just

563
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: like landed on Boy Meats World so early, because like

564
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Marla and I knew each other, Like there was a

565
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: small community of people that we kept seeing, we all knew,

566
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: and like that's the irony is like all of those

567
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: people that like Marla and I hung out with at

568
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: um at the oak Woods ended up on Boy Meets

569
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: World at some point, you know, like they would guests

570
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: start at one point or another, or they would be

571
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: backstage hanging out with us because we just knew each other.

572
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: It was there was a sense of community, and it's

573
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: something that happens when you know, we're talking about making

574
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: the transition into being an adult actor. Part of the

575
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: challenges the pool gets bigger, Yeah, competition gets more fierce.

576
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: Like if you're a kid who can hit your marks

577
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: and say your lines, you're like one in a million

578
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: just just for that alone. And so there was a

579
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: there's a there's a sense in which, like you're the

580
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: it gets weeded out very quickly, and it gets down

581
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: to just the five people who like fit this type

582
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: and come to Ellen and whose parents are willing to

583
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: commute for them, and so the pool is very small

584
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and when you hit like I remember being like twenty

585
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: two plus and going to auditions and it was like,

586
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: oh oh, people are coming out of n y U

587
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: now like actors. Actors have been getting trained, and those

588
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: are the people I'm up against, like the you know,

589
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: they were no names before and now they're like skilled,

590
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: trained actors, and like the competition just got fiercer. You know.

591
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: You were also Joey's sister on Friends? What was that like?

592
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Was that a more fun set than Boy Meets World?

593
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: Who had a fun or set? You want to know

594
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: something so funny? It's like the same situation. There was

595
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: another actress playing the sister and I wasn't on the show,

596
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: but I got a call, like a last minute call

597
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: being like, they need to find Joey's sister. Can you

598
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: be at Warner Brothers at like noon or something like that,

599
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: And actually very good for end of mine. One of

600
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: my closest friends was one of the girls at the

601
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: audition and still to this day she I'm not over friends.

602
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: That never happened to me because he did that. They

603
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: go Marlatte, you can stay, um, just wait, just wait

604
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: for me right there, and they sent me right to

605
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Wardrop and everybody else. You can come home, like thanks

606
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: for coming. And she was like so mortified. Anyway, so

607
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: it's between us. She's like, when you they asked me

608
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: to leave and you've got to stay. Do you never that?

609
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that was another kind of like

610
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: surreal experience because I was such a pan I mean

611
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I think that I think I did that when they

612
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: were in there, like eighth season or something. Oh my god.

613
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: Then the new cool shows like the show, you know,

614
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: show in the Country. Yeah, and I think I talked

615
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: to like nobody. I was so nervous. I was like,

616
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're done for understand, and she's so

617
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: close to me, Like, I'm so star struck the whole time.

618
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Did you get to do the live show in front

619
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: of the audience. Yeah, I also have been such an

620
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: exciting show to be on because it's so much energy.

621
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I really wish I had gone to a taping of

622
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: their show or any show. I didn't even try, like

623
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: I did, never went to their taping, like when your

624
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: mom brought you down, you didn't go to a taping

625
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: for I went to Blossom. Wow. But this is like

626
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: and you guys know from being on a sitcom, It's

627
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: like I thought we were going to see Blossom. It's

628
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: going to be great. I remember like our SIXA was like, um,

629
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: can we get out of your And then like when

630
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: people wanted to come to even like Buller House, like

631
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, any everybody was always asked me, can I

632
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: come to a taping? I'm like, you don't want to

633
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: come to a taping? Like now, forrest me, you can

634
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: come like visit, you know, but you don't want to.

635
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: They take your phone. Now you're like trapped in there.

636
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, people they don't really get it yet. I know.

637
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: And you know when we were kids though, they were

638
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: like three and a half hours because they yeah, they

639
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: couldn't run long. But then you get into being an

640
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: adult and someone wants to come to a taping, You're like,

641
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: this is the worst you're gonna get it. You're gonna

642
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: be is if you're backstage our show backstage was like

643
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: all about the taping and like a gathering aroundcraft service

644
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: and video village. If you go backstage at like grown

645
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: up shows, though, they would have basic heart as back

646
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: catered dinner that was like open because like everyone from

647
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: the network would come and then be like dressing rooms

648
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: open because everybody would start drinking after like you know,

649
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: the show was over. We did it, and like none

650
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: of that happened on our show because we're like we

651
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: were teenagers. And I did finally go to a taping

652
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: in my twenties. I visited a friend of the show

653
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, this is this is what

654
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: it could have been like if we were older. So

655
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: I have not even gotten to the fact that, well

656
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I did. I mentioned that you were on seven seasons

657
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: of The Practice, and writer you did two episodes of

658
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: The Practice. Yeah, And I remember Marla coming over to

659
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: my dressing with my trailer and we didn't get work together,

660
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: but I remember her knocking on my door and like

661
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: waking me up because I was sleeping. You know, I

662
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: was Marlin knocking on your door because I had like

663
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: five AM calls. That's the thing we see, we weren't

664
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: used to that kind of crap because like on board

665
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: these world, we had six new schedules put on the practice.

666
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: It was a film schedule, so you had to be

667
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: there at like six am, like, and I was just

668
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I remember being so weirded out by having to actually

669
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: work like normal film outright. But I loved that show.

670
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I was so happy to be a part of it

671
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: because I just thought it was such a high quality show.

672
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, we didn't get to Workgether, but I remember

673
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: I loved that like every episode of really Yeah, Yeah,

674
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I loved it. Wow, I loved it too, I really did.

675
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: It was such a great experience, and you know we

676
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: had I had the wonderful um position of being like

677
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the youngest and just everybody was there to you know,

678
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: show me the ropes and you know, care for me.

679
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: So I wasn't if there was ever any like cast drama,

680
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know about it because I was happy to

681
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: be there the whole time. And yeah, it was great. Well,

682
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen you for years. And then we did

683
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Hollywood Darlings together and it was just like two days

684
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: of just thrown together kind of like, oh, hey, it's

685
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: just everybody's back. Hey, how's everybody doing. What's Hollywood Darlins?

686
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Hollywood doings was to show that that started Bacon and

687
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Joe that's right, and and and so it was we

688
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of threw everybody in from the

689
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: nineties for a party's supposed to be the two thousand's

690
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: are the the year two thousand New Year's party at

691
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: my house? Um, and so everybody's there and I'm dating

692
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: all three of the women at the same time, but

693
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: I end up actually with Marla at the end. Uh So, Yeah,

694
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: it's just fun. But so many people you hadn't seen,

695
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: and you're kind of like in this club, this like

696
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: nineties club, which we felt when we were at nineties

697
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Con where we're just like everybody's back together again. It's

698
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: it's so strange. It's a fun kind of bond, you know,

699
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: you just pick up right where you left off. So, Marlot,

700
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you have a ten year old. You

701
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: have a total of three daughters, what are their ages? Ten? Ten,

702
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: seven and seven months? Seven months? New one over decided

703
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: to join our family, and we also we have, um

704
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: we have I have a one year old, so am

705
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I have one that's not that that much older than yours. Um.

706
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: But also we have both dress right I do, I

707
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: have I have to Yeah, I have I have a

708
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: three year old son and a one year old son.

709
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, um, yeah, I mean not as busy

710
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: as with three and a seven months. I don't know

711
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: how you do it. Agree with nine years split like

712
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: that is so intense. Yeah, yeah, it's your ten year

713
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: old helpful with your so helpful. Like he said to me, like, oh,

714
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a built in babysitter. And I kept thinking,

715
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: this seems someone fair to put this on her, like

716
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: she didn't decide to have a baby, Like why everybody

717
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: was always saying that, like you gotta help mommy. But

718
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: I would always say to her, how many of you

719
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: want to you know, like this isn't your this isn't

720
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: your responsibility. Um. But she has taken it on and

721
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: they really have. I mean it's crazy. It's actually ten

722
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: year difference. Their birthdays two days apart, so they it's

723
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: just this whist relationship. And my middle daughter too, she's

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: very helpful. I mean she's only seven, so she's a

725
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: little less intend But you know, you you remember because

726
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: you're in the thick of it, Danielle. But like you know,

727
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: when you want to take a shower and you're like,

728
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: why do I put this kid? What do I do?

729
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: How do I really quickly? And you know I could

730
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: just like can you watch her really quickly? So honestly,

731
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: it's been just such a different experience and she's you know,

732
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: really made it a lot easier. But again, I don't

733
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: ever like push that on her because she's not you know,

734
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: it'll be a cool relationship though. My oldest brothers eight

735
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: years older than me, and we always had there's always

736
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: that kind of like it's almost like a second parent

737
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: in a way. But when you can really talk to

738
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: them about anything, um, so yeah, it's cool when you

739
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: have that kind of big split. Yeah. Yeah. And now

740
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: you are also you have moved behind the camera. You

741
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: are now a director. How do you know? Yeah? Yeah,

742
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: how did you make that transition? What? What what was

743
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: the idea behind it? What made that made you realize

744
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: you wanted to do that. I want to know everything

745
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: about this, like second stage of your career. Okay, so basically,

746
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: in the times that we don't work, you know, it

747
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: could be a year, it could be a week. I

748
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: was just writing content, you know, just things that I

749
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: was keeping myself busy with, and um, just because you know,

750
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: I always want to feel like I'm doing something when

751
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you're waiting for your agent to give you an audition,

752
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: which was the most frustrating feeling to me. Um And

753
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: I was at a bar with my husband one night

754
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: and I was hysterically crying because I'm like, I'm like

755
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Daniel, I'm like, I don't even

756
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: have any other skills, Like what am I gonna do

757
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: with life? I can't. And I also felt like I

758
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: had these two small children and they're always seeing me

759
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: like kind of identify with something that supposed to make

760
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: me happy, and if I didn't get a part, it

761
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: would be just like so upsetting to me. And that

762
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: was upsetting to me. I'm like, why do I care

763
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: so much? Still, like this is crazy? And so he

764
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, you know what, you

765
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: have so many scripts, just go make one of them.

766
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean? And he

767
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: he was just like, get a camera, get a crew together,

768
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: and put something out there, like you know, put to

769
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: plan into action. If you want to direct, you should direct.

770
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: And within like a few weeks, you know, I just

771
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: called up people that I knew, like a cinematographer friend

772
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: of mine and a sound you know mixer who I

773
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: went to high school with, who like won an Academy

774
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: Award for Lalla Land, and you know, people want to help,

775
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: which is amazing, And I made a short and fell

776
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: in love. I I was just like, no, no, this

777
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to be doing. And I felt

778
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: this intense poll and I took up like two and

779
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: a half years from acting to just shadow and um,

780
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: you know, learn as much as I could and get

781
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: the opportunities. And then finally one of the directors I

782
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: had shadowed put me up for a movie um that

783
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to direct. And then I went and

784
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: took the meeting and I got it, which was full

785
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. Like I was like, oh, oh okay, great, yeah, no, no,

786
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: I could do this totally. Um like, no, I came

787
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: to the meeting, which means I am equipped to do this.

788
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and um yeah. It was just it's been

789
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: so nice to kind of step away and be part

790
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: of the creative process in such a different way, but

791
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: still like have that love of acting and knowing what

792
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: the actors are going through and being able to communicate

793
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: with them. In ways that I which directors would have

794
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: been able to talk to me. Um, it's just been

795
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. I mean the fallout from it is,

796
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, people like your fans or my mother is

797
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: like such a shame that you don't know it's existing.

798
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: Is It's exactly. It's exactly what Will was saying. If

799
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: people don't see you in the same medium they're used

800
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: to seeing you, they think, I guess it's just over

801
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: for them. I don't know what they're doing, as opposed

802
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: to thinking they moved into some other new career. Yeah. Yeah,

803
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I love that. It's your mom though too, putting yourself

804
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: in one of the ones you're direct Maybe you want

805
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: to do that. Actually, that is a good question. Have

806
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: you thought about that, because I know you've directed a

807
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: few Hallmark movies. Yeah, I've done Lifetime, which similar very um.

808
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: So the short that I'm telling that I started with

809
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I was in. UM. It was me and my friend

810
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Judy career. Um. It was kind of like one of

811
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: those things that we were making fun of the preschool

812
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: my kids were going to, because when you would walk

813
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: into their preschool there was a big build um bulletin

814
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: board that had everybody's picture and what they were allergic to.

815
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, my kids weren't allergic to anything. Luckily I

816
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: don't have a child with but I just was like,

817
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: read die number forty. Really I didn't think that's an allergy.

818
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: I think that your mom just doesn't want you to

819
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: have that. I made short ridiculous. That was a real

820
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: that that didn't make it up. Wow, And you know,

821
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: just kids having like crazy names and all of that stuff.

822
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: So um, but I was in that and and I

823
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: really realized, you know, in the shooting of that, like

824
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: every time it was time for me to go back

825
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: in front of the camera, and it was obviously my

826
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: first time directing, I felt not sad, but I was

827
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: just kind of like, oh, okay, yeah, let's do that.

828
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't as I didn't feel like I could do

829
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: both well, you know, I wanted to be really great

830
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: at the thing I was focusing on, and it felt

831
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: like almost a distraction. I mean, I think eventually, I

832
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: think the space I work in is like a little

833
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: bit lower in the budget world. If I were to

834
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: do something it was like fifty million dollars, I was like,

835
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: let's shoot one scene a day and I'll bring that,

836
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: you know, a body double, Like I think, like now,

837
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: it's just like everything so quick that I would feel

838
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: stressed by that. Aren't those? Aren't those lifetime movie shot

839
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: in like ten days and it's like you have a

840
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: full film script in like ten or eleven days or shooting.

841
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: It's not ten, but it's close. It's like anywhere from

842
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty. Um. Actually, the last one I just

843
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: did was thirteen and I won't I won't do that again.

844
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: That was I'm about to start one that's fourteen. You

845
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: can do it. You could do fourteen. How long is

846
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the script? Um, it's a I don't know, it's a

847
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: full it's like hundred hundred five pages. Kind what is

848
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: the one that you're doing? It's for to be. No,

849
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: it's not holiday, it's for to be. It's a college comedy.

850
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: So the good news is we are shooting on a

851
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: college campus, and the college campus has a lot of

852
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the locations we need. A majority of the movie takes

853
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: place on a college campus, and the campus we picked

854
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: everything is like the set ups in different places. It

855
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: will be very close, Like we can definitely have people

856
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: setting up by the time we're done with this one

857
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: will be mostly set up over there, um, and then

858
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: we found one other location that also houses some of

859
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: like a majority of the other ones. We're hoping to

860
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: only have like two maybe three company moves in the

861
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: whole time, which will save us a ton of time.

862
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: But still I'm very nervous about it. As a matter

863
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: of fact, Writer and I have a zoom later today

864
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: where writer is going to talk me off a ledge, right,

865
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Are I need you? So? Marla? I may call on

866
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: you as well, because I actually did another movie that

867
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: was you guys are Gonna Die and I haven't even

868
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: told people like how many days this was. So I

869
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: did a movie that it was an Indian I loved

870
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: the script so much, called Roselle Day. It's actually gonna

871
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: be streaming in November, but we shot it. Are you

872
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: ready in five days? Did it all take place in

873
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 1: one room? How did you back you out? You have to, okay, okay,

874
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: get an advice that you're not asking for. It's like

875
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: two I am asking really kind of get with your

876
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: actors and make sure that they're prepared because unfortunately, your

877
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: preparation relies heavily on them coming and like showing up.

878
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have somebody take you down like that.

879
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: So that's a big one. And then the location is

880
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: a big one. And then just you know, your shot

881
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: list is going to look completely different than it ever

882
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: would look because you can't do the long, you know

883
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: list that you're used to. I know, That's what I was.

884
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking to writer about today. I'm like,

885
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: so I have twelve setups in this one um one

886
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: and a half page scene. Is that gonna work? Is that's?

887
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: How is that going to go? Uh? Yeah, I don't.

888
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how. And then and then having three children,

889
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: like I am, truthfully, this is it's gonna be a

890
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: fourteen day shoot, and I'm we're probably gonna be shooting

891
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: seven to seven, and that means I will have to

892
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: leave my house at six and I won't get home

893
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: until eight, which means from six am to eight pm

894
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: at the earliest, I won't see my children. My children

895
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: get up at six thirty and my my oldest son

896
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: goes to bed at seven thirty, So I won't see

897
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: my kids for those fourteen days. Now, granted there are

898
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: weekends in between. I think we're doing We're doing five

899
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: day weeks Monday through Friday and then I will get

900
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: the weekend with them. But I've never not seen my

901
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: kids for five days, like I've never I don't know,

902
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: I've never done that. Um. So I am like, I

903
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: don't when I talked to other working parents and I

904
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: and you know, because people ask me all the time,

905
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: how do you do it? And I think I don't know?

906
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Tons of help is the number one answer. I have

907
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: a fantastic nanny. I would not be able to do

908
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: it alone. My house have been disabled to be present.

909
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: But my husband wrote this movie. I'm about to start directing,

910
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: so he's gonna he's gonna want to be there. Um

911
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: And so I just like, really, marlat, how do you?

912
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: How do you do it all? I mean, the one

913
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: tip I'm going to give you on that front with

914
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: the kids is, um, I did a movie in Utah

915
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was a Christmas and

916
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: it was the first time I even left. I didn't

917
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: even leave to act. It was like I'm leaving and

918
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gone. Because I had, you know, prep

919
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: first and then and um, I had I could send

920
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: it to you. I made like a schedule. I guess

921
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: you have a one year old it's so different. My

922
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: daughters were four and seven at the time, but like

923
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: every day they had stuff to do, you know, it

924
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: was like the nanny would pick them up and they

925
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: would go here, they would go there, and so I

926
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: never I could shut that part of my brain off

927
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to. You can't be a piano,

928
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: you know. You have to just let your fantastic nanny

929
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: do the things and only contact you if you know,

930
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: we had a time, a set time every day that

931
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: we would face time, and I knew I could do

932
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: it um and just have it all planned out. It's

933
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: like your director prep, you know, but you got right prep.

934
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: It's just like a whole extra set of you know,

935
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: things for you to do. But it's just gonna make

936
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: your life so much easier, you know, family prep a

937
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: little bit harder. Yeah, but I am. I mean, it

938
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: is exactly the same thing I've already started thinking about. Okay,

939
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: so is Jensen going to take my kid to school

940
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: in the morning and then he gets picked up at midday,

941
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: so our nanny will have to pick him up at midday,

942
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and you know it is it's just it, it's it's

943
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: the family prep that goes into it and then the

944
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: normal work prep that is working parents is I mean, man,

945
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really to every working parent, I

946
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: just you are a superstar because it's it is. It's

947
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: so hard, and it's so hard to feel like you're

948
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: good at both. You know that, like kids will be

949
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: great like you won't. They're not going to do any

950
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: crazy like mommy, don't go like, They're just gonna be

951
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, they'll be good for kids to see mom,

952
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, going to work and fulfilling her dreams and

953
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So to ask your mom's question,

954
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: do you see yourself ever wanting to jump in front

955
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: of the camera? Are you still audition? Have you told

956
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: your agents just take you out of it, you're going

957
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: to focus full time on directing. Where do you stand

958
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: with that? I'm definitely focusing full time undirecting. I haven't

959
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: had an audition in a jillion years, But I never

960
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: had the conversation with my agents. I think they kind

961
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: of just caught on that, you know, that was kind

962
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: of more my focus. Um, I think I'm now just starting.

963
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been the first I think it's

964
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen is when I kind of pulled away.

965
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: So I think I'm just now starting to feel like

966
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad if I got something, you know,

967
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: it could be kind of fun to go do you

968
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: know a little something. The part that I'm not ready

969
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: to revisit is that hustle of like do you like me?

970
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: Do you want to hire me? No? What about you

971
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: do you like? I really got burnt out, really truly

972
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: got burned down. I would pull up to auditions and

973
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: I would want to drive away, like I physically kind

974
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: of go in because you know they always say, like

975
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: once it's not fun, don't do it. It really did

976
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: get unfun for me. Yeah, auditioning is really hard. It's

977
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: a every aspect of it is difficult. Like I I

978
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: was never great at auditioning. I was one of those

979
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: people who at home could really do a performance that

980
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I felt like there, I feel like this is the

981
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: best I can do with it. And then you walk

982
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: into the room and there's so many factors that are

983
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: completely out of your control. Who else is in the room,

984
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: how thin the walls are, whether you could hear somebody

985
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: else auditioning, and then you hear them do something and

986
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: you go, oh gosh, I'm not doing that? Am I missing?

987
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Should I? And then you look back down at your

988
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: sides you start questioning the decisions you've made. And then

989
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: you go in there and the first thought you have

990
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: is like, now all those people are listening to me

991
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: do my audition. And then if you start off on

992
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: the wrong foot, even with the slate, I mean, there

993
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: were times that I would walk into an audition and

994
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: back when they used to say, like okay, say your name,

995
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: your age, your height, and your weight, and then they

996
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: pan the camera up and down your body while you

997
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: do a slow turn and then start your scene, and

998
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: like any insecurity, you have starts coming out and then

999
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: you have to deliver a performance where you hope they

1000
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: just that they think it's good, and you know that

1001
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: that tape is now going to somebody. It's every aspect

1002
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: of it is brutal. I think we we also because

1003
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: we started working so young. I think you go through

1004
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows no matter what you do for a career,

1005
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: and when you've been in something anything for thirty years,

1006
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: you get burned out on it. I don't care what

1007
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: it is. You just after a while it's like I'm

1008
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: doing the same thing thirty years. I mean, we have.

1009
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's certainly different what we do with certain

1010
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. People are constantly amazed at the what

1011
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: we call the zero to a thousand where you're not

1012
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: doing anything for two weeks and then all of a sudden,

1013
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: you're doing everything for a month, and then you're not

1014
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: doing everything for three weeks. I mean, it's like you're

1015
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: either it's feast or famine. Um, but I don't care

1016
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: what you're doing, any job you do after you just

1017
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: get burnt. It's just like, I can't do this right

1018
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: now anymore. And that doesn't mean you're not gonna come

1019
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: back and you're not gonna find the love for it again,

1020
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But I think it's okay to step

1021
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: back and just go, wow, this this isn't for me

1022
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: right now. But there is something unique to acting like

1023
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: that I've noticed, Like when I get rejected on a

1024
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: writing pitch or directing pitch, no problem, Like just walk

1025
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: away going like that person is horrible to if I

1026
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: get rejected as an actor. And this is why I'm

1027
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: not acting anymore, is because I would. It was like

1028
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a rejection of me. It

1029
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: felt like a rejection of of my my face, my voice,

1030
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: my my my personhood in some like very real way.

1031
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that that probably just goes

1032
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: back to the personal psychology of being a child actor,

1033
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: because when I talked to the most successful actors, I know,

1034
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: they have a great cavalier attitude about keep rejection. You know,

1035
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: it's like they still want it and it still hurts,

1036
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: but they're also like, this is the job here I am,

1037
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, and I just couldn't never do that. I

1038
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: just was like, uh so part of being burnt out

1039
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: was like losing that ability to just like bring it

1040
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: back up again and show it off and then get

1041
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: rejected and then do it the next day. Like, No,

1042
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: that was in a different boat because I wanted to

1043
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: keep going and my mental health said not not gonna

1044
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: let you do that. So that's what stopped me was

1045
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: when you know, I wanted to keep auditioning. I wanted

1046
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: that rush, I wanted that vibe, and then the anxiety

1047
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: hit and it was just like, no, we're not We're

1048
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: not letting you do this anymore. And then I kind

1049
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: of went back more philosophical about it was like, well,

1050
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: I yeah, I needed the break and everything, but it

1051
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: was yeah, it's so strange to just see people's different

1052
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: journeys because it is it's such a personal thing acting

1053
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: and you know what you bring to it, what you

1054
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: want to bring to it. And and then the kind

1055
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: of seeing the people that then are successful, um, where

1056
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: they take it from there, because you do see some

1057
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: people that don't appreciate it when they get it. You

1058
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: see other people that are so appreciative even when they

1059
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: don't get it, just for the opportunity to do it. Um.

1060
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: And then you see some people that it's just all

1061
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: they've ever known. So it's like this is just this

1062
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: is just me. Um. Yeah, it's very strange. It is

1063
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: such a strange business to be in. It really is, Marla.

1064
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: Have you ever directed children? Yeah? So the preschool in

1065
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: l A that I was telling about kids, that's amazing.

1066
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Did did you feel now they were preschool age, so

1067
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: they were younger than you were when you started acting,

1068
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: But like, was there any part of you that felt

1069
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: like you were actually directing a young you No, not

1070
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: as a director, but as an actor. Throughout the years,

1071
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: I've seen like younger kids on set, and I mean

1072
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: even seeing them with like their you know, onset teacher

1073
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: or their mom, like it is kind of a strange feeling. Um,

1074
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I haven't run into that yet where

1075
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you remind me of that time of

1076
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah. I mostly direct Disney Channel sitcoms, so

1077
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: all of my directing experience is with twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

1078
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen year old actors. And I just feel like

1079
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking directly into my childhood face. And and it

1080
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: gave such an advantage, doesn't it, Like you're doing Oh

1081
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: my god. I did a pilot and it was started

1082
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: twelve year old, and um, it was so funny, Like

1083
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: it was a very you know, low but we did

1084
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: not have enough money. But but it was like once

1085
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: we can once we were casting this kid, I was

1086
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: able to say to the casting director and the producers,

1087
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: here's what we need to do. We need to meet

1088
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: the parents. I need to have dinner with the parents,

1089
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: and we need to have rehearsals where I hang out.

1090
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, I knew what made me

1091
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: comfortable at that age with the directors, and it worked.

1092
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was like and rehearsal was mostly

1093
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: just hanging out with him, you know, like just making

1094
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: him comfortable with like me as a person and like

1095
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and and then the parents like

1096
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: making the parents comfortable. And I remember our producers being like,

1097
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: what the parents, I'm like, trust me, that is the

1098
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: most important thing in this scenario. But we always had

1099
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: great directors. Boy, that was the thing. We always had

1100
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: great We had one great director after another great director

1101
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: that you could really trust, which was which was great.

1102
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: So that was super helpful. Yeah, that is definitely helpful.

1103
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: But also being able to, like one of my favorite

1104
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: things to do with when directing kids is really make

1105
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: them start thinking about their characters, telling them like, listen,

1106
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: you're the expert of your character. I can easily walk

1107
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: in here and tell you where you're going and where

1108
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: you're supposed to sit and what you're supposed to be

1109
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: doing while you're doing it. But ultimately, if it just

1110
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: says we walk in and this character is sitting on

1111
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: the couch, what time of day is it? What would

1112
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: your character be doing at this time of day? So

1113
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: before school, after school, is it a weekend? What is

1114
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: your character like to do? Are they on their phone?

1115
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: Are they reading a book? Are they into comics? Are

1116
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: they playing a game? You start thinking of those things,

1117
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: so that I can start relying on you to bring

1118
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: those things to the table instead of you just acting

1119
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: as though you're my I don't want to I don't

1120
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: want you to be a puppet. I want you to

1121
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: be an expert. I want you to think about what's

1122
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: happening for you in the story and what's what's propelling

1123
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: you forward. And like being able to have those kinds

1124
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: of conversations and seeing the lightbulbs go off in their

1125
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: head and for them to take agency over what they're doing.

1126
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: I just I love it because directors have given them

1127
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: that power none probably, And that's why it's so great

1128
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: to come from where you're coming from, you know, because

1129
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: you know exactly what to say because you wanted someone

1130
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: to say it to you. You know. Um, I think

1131
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, it's it's really fun. And I get

1132
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: the same I got the sense Marlow, when you talking

1133
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: about the things you've directed, that you get that same

1134
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: um sense of accomplishment we get as actors. Directing other actors,

1135
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: watching other actors deliver incredible performances gives me the feeling

1136
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: as if I just did it myself. I'm like, oh

1137
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, the rush you get watching someone just nail

1138
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: something and and knowing you're behind the camera watching it

1139
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: and you had a tiny little bit of help bringing

1140
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: it to that spot is just so rewarding. It's you're

1141
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: getting it's we're getting older. It's it's you. You hit it.

1142
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: You hit an age where all of a sudden, giving

1143
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: a gift is way more important than getting a gift.

1144
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's you. It's that same kind of thing.

1145
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: It's that's how I knew I was getting older at

1146
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: Christmas or was like I can't wait to give this

1147
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: person this thing and I don't care what I get.

1148
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, just getting older. Yeah, that's really cool. Well,

1149
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you came and joined us today. Um

1150
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: I I really I could sit and talk to you

1151
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: about this stuff forever. And I'm serious that I'm going

1152
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: to get your number and I'm probably going to hit

1153
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: you up to talk about my my panics. So that

1154
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: writer is not the only person I'm nicking too. It's

1155
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: got it. You're going to be great. But yeah, feel

1156
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: free to call me anytime you want. Thank you so

1157
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: much for having me on you guys. This is the best.

1158
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: Give my love to Shiloh. Wait, tell us tell us

1159
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: where we can see you now, where we can find you,

1160
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: what projects of yours we can watch? Tell us everything,

1161
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: because I know everyone's gonna want to find you. Um,

1162
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram. Okay, suck off. Um,

1163
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't really do any of the other ones, like

1164
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: dabbled but not really. Um, I'm sorry, is dabbled? A

1165
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: thing is dabbled? Something on dabbled, I'm like, what the

1166
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: hell is dabbled? Like, Okay, I'm getting old Dallas will

1167
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Like what I don't know what

1168
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: it was? TikTok is something. It's like, what is dabble?

1169
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: What am I missing? Okay, movie coming on? A thriller

1170
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: that I directed past Nightmare Creepy. It's like a fatal

1171
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: attraction but the man becomes obsessed with the woman. That

1172
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: will be September twenty lifetime and um yeah, just a

1173
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: couple of things like coming up that you know who

1174
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: wants to hear about that now? But you probably quote

1175
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: it on Instagram. So Marla sockle off s O K

1176
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: O L O f F that is correct. And I'm

1177
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: going to need your help because one of my ultimate

1178
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: dreams is to be in a Hallmark Christmas movie. That's

1179
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I just even one line. So I'm gonna need I'm

1180
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna need your help with that. It happen for you. Yes,

1181
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Marla, Thank you bye. She literally

1182
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: doesn't age, and I'm using literally correctly by the way.

1183
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: She doesn't age. It's amazing. She's so amazing, and I

1184
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: love that. All these years later, you know, we we have,

1185
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: um not really kept in touch, and not for any

1186
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: particular reason. We just never really We would see each

1187
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: other a key aasionally at auditions here and there, and then, um,

1188
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, I lived in Orange County growing up, and

1189
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: then around my mid twenties, I moved back to Orange County. Um,

1190
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: and so I then, as far as like having l

1191
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: A friends, I don't really have a whole lot of

1192
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: l A actor friends. I have you guys, and then

1193
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: I have you know, friends that I've known for a

1194
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: long time, like Jonathan and you know, stuff like that.

1195
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: But for the most part, my friend group are the

1196
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: same five or six girls I went to junior high

1197
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: in high school with, and I keep in touch with them,

1198
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not. I don't have a lot

1199
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: of actor friends. And I think she's you know, She's

1200
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: worked literally NonStop since Boy Meats World went off the air.

1201
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: She was consistently working. She has an incredible career. I

1202
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: did not have such an incredible career, and um, we

1203
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: just had different friend groups. And so it's one of

1204
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: those things where you start to wonder, like, I wonder

1205
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: if there's any bitterness about the fact that I ended

1206
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: up being the one who got to Penga and she didn't.

1207
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: We've never talked about it. We even though that week

1208
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: that we worked together went fine and there was no competition,

1209
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: you never really know, and then you wonder, like, over

1210
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the years hearing hearing me tell the story of how

1211
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: I got to Pang and I've always said her name,

1212
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: it was me and Marla sockle Off, And I've always thought, like,

1213
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if have I wonder if I shouldn't have

1214
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: said that. I wonder if that pisces her off, or

1215
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: if there's any I don't think she gave it a

1216
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: second thought. It sounds I mean, partly because she had

1217
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: her own great career right when she ended up on

1218
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: the practice, she was totally like probably stoked to be

1219
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: in a drama and doing, you know, like she just

1220
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: but she also just seems like one of those people

1221
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: that like had a healthy attitude about to Yeah, she

1222
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: just knew she was always going to work and find working.

1223
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: She actually had more a lot more experience than you

1224
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: already at that age. More in some ways she was

1225
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: better prepared for the rejection than you would have been.

1226
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to look at it. True. Yeah,

1227
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: if if the if the roles had been reversed, I

1228
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: bet you well you talked about how you thought you

1229
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten the part and that that was super devastating.

1230
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: And it sounds like she didn't even give She was

1231
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: like the airport, you know, Okay, cool, And that's exactly

1232
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: my point is that it's amazing that like for me,

1233
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: it was the week is so indelible in my mind,

1234
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: and I could tell you exactly, yes, changed my life,

1235
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: and it was just another week in her life of

1236
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: a very successful, busy childhood career and then adult career.

1237
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: You can you can also tell the younger actors that

1238
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: learned that lesson and take that lesson heart, learn the

1239
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: rejection lesson where it's like, this is how it's going

1240
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: to be. I better thicken my skin up, or this

1241
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: is not for me and you can tell the people

1242
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: that that get that at eleven or twelve, because there

1243
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: are some, and I think she was one of them

1244
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: who was like, this is my job. You know, I'm

1245
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna be all right, move on to the next one

1246
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: described herself when she was talking about like I don't

1247
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: know where this kut spun, this confidence came from. That's

1248
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: what I remember about her. Um when we used to

1249
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: hang out, she was one of the smartest, most in

1250
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: control of her life, like eleven year old I had

1251
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: ever met. I loved her back then. I was so

1252
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean like I didn't I didn't actually have a

1253
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: crush on or anything. I just respected her so much

1254
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: like I do you remember, Like we we just formed

1255
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: this like mutual respect and and that's exactly who she was.

1256
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: She was like what you saw is what you got,

1257
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: and she had no apologies for it, like it was

1258
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: always just like she And in a way that a

1259
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: lot of young actors at eleven and twelve, especially girls

1260
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: at that time, it was all about insecurity. It was

1261
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: all about how do I make myself? What what men

1262
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: like you know? Or like how do I impress this

1263
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: casting director? How do I fit this role? And Marlon

1264
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: never she always gave and her mom. I remember her

1265
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: mom was also a very confident woman, and they were

1266
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: just very smart. And I just remember like going over

1267
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: to Marlow's apartment and feeling very comfortable with her and

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Speaker 1: her mom, like as opposed to other moms that I remember,

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Speaker 1: it was always like who do we have to please?

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Speaker 1: How do we get at the job? How do we

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Speaker 1: make that? And like there was just none of that

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Speaker 1: rattled sense. She was always such a cool, confident kid.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, I love it. I love that we're

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Speaker 1: that thirty years later, we're still able to like reconnect

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Speaker 1: with people that you know that we knew back then,

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Speaker 1: and it does. It's so it's so weird that it

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Speaker 1: really does feel like no time has passed. Like I

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Speaker 1: kind of sat there and talked to her for about

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Speaker 1: anything for It's it's really fun. Well, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for joining us for this episode of pod Meats World.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us on Instagram at pod Meats World Show.

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Speaker 1: You can email us at pod Meats World Show at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. And we have got March. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we have um team backyard t shirts. Now, is there

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Speaker 1: a team side yard? I'm curious because I'm in control

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Speaker 1: makes the shirt. I figured that. I figured that that's fine.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm gonna make my own T shirt at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna draw it up myself with sharpie, and it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be like after I invented this podcast, I

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Speaker 1: decided exactly how the team backyard should be in its

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Speaker 1: side yard. Yeah, alright, you draw your map, I'll mine.

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Speaker 1: I do want to see maps. I don't draw maps, dude,

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I want to see your map. I

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Speaker 1: want to see Will's callin. I'm gonna make a train town.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna build like a whole little I want to see.

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Speaker 1: I want it. I want it in the h scale, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I want I want it all like that, Yes, hysterical

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Speaker 1: want tiny little Mr Feeney teaching every single class. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want. That's what I want. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for being here. Who's going to do our out?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Writer Stern. We love you all. Pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Pod Meets Worlds, an I heart podcast produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Daniel Fisher, Wilfred l and Writer Strong. Executive producers

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Speaker 1: Jensen Cart and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production

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Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara sud Backs producer, Jackie Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our

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Speaker 1: theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. You can

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