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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast plays like a rogue savage.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanss and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosto. What's up boys, Hey man, Hi, he's back.

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Speaker 1: Good evening. You know, this is a big Sunday recap,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk a lot of football, but we

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Speaker 1: gotta talk about you know, the big edition in your family, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Bates Handsas born Wednesday, November nine, bringing some much

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Speaker 1: needed life and color into the world when he came

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Speaker 1: twenty one and a half inches, nine pounds nine ounces,

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Speaker 1: all muscle, muscle, ways more than fat and uh, Harrison

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Speaker 1: hands us uh my book. My two year old Jack

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Speaker 1: already called him Harry. So Harry Hanss, Welcome to the world.

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Speaker 1: How's it going between? I found in our house we

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Speaker 1: had an older child, we had a second one, and

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Speaker 1: the jarring reality that child number one, that all attention

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Speaker 1: was There was a shocking transition there. Yeah, Jack's a

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Speaker 1: good boy, but a bit of a shaky start so far.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonnnna leave it there in the transition

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Speaker 1: as the world has changed for him. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: that plays out. But yeah, happy to be back here

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Speaker 1: was the week eleven week tensee When you when you

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Speaker 1: do have a baby and now you have a full family,

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Speaker 1: you kind of lose grip on everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't even know what week we're in, but

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Speaker 1: I did get to enjoy again for the second straight week.

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Speaker 1: I thought, some good football, especially the late games, and

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Speaker 1: I thought the and we're gonna get to it momentarily.

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Speaker 1: You can make the case for the second straight week

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to talk to me to watch that

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Speaker 1: one on game pass, um anything else before we get

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Speaker 1: hour and fourteen minutes on game pass. By the way, Chris,

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Speaker 1: They're now roughly about sixty or seventy minutes each with

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Speaker 1: all sorts of filler and crowd shots. And we take

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Speaker 1: this to a private email exchange with the people in

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Speaker 1: this building that work on that I've tried, tried. We

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Speaker 1: Marty Scorsese wannabes who are dragging these games out to

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Speaker 1: over an hour. Okay, can we move on the game

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Speaker 1: pass conversation? Uh, the Around the NFL podcast, sponsored of

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Speaker 1: course by Mr Flames, Economic Class in the Hague, the Netherlands,

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Speaker 1: and uh, let's get going. Let's start with what went

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Speaker 1: down at Heinz Field. Here we go, Runz goodbyes, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: short yardage pinched in, the Dogs got out, the Costards

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Speaker 1: with nine seconds left and Dallas Lage thirty five thirty.

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Speaker 1: What a sham, bradsham that is kr l D Dallas

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott took a Dak Prescott handoff and went thirty

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Speaker 1: best games we've seen this year. And you know, oh no,

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Speaker 1: right off the bat, someone trying to lock this up

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Speaker 1: didn't lock. Where are we at? That was me? What

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Speaker 1: It was a trifecta that you don't even need to

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Speaker 1: three um Brown four way lock les. I'd like you

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Speaker 1: It lives forever. Lock that up anyway. The Steelers took

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Speaker 1: and it came from both quarterbacks, especially after Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: be perfect from wire to wire. He struggled a little

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Speaker 1: of zeke m v P talk on NFL Network and

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Speaker 1: all other networks this week because the Dallas Cowboys dominate

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott ten yards per passed today. You know these games?

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Speaker 1: I think showed what it's been good about Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: They blitzed them a couple of times, including one where

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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any way that Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: this point, Mark don't don't even mind what people are

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Speaker 1: By the way, Mark, Um, don't watch TV, which you

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Speaker 1: Broncos that that the Saints fought back from, and then

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Speaker 1: the Broncos fight back. Both core her backs in this

431
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: game fought back from multi interception. But I thought Trevor

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Speaker 1: Simeon's toughness uh to withstand all the hits that he

433
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Speaker 1: was taking was really impressive and was one of the

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00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: keys to them winning. And the Saints in a game

435
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: where they did so many things right sacked Simmon six times,

436
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: hit him eleven times, Drew brees Is two throws to

437
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks to what to tie that game to look

438
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: like it was gonna win the game where two of

439
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: the best throws and plays I've seen all season, and

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Speaker 1: then to lose it for a team that was on

441
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Speaker 1: a roll here that works so hard to get back

442
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: to four and four is a gut punch game for

443
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Speaker 1: the Saints. It's not a killer it, you know, doesn't

444
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Speaker 1: knock them out for the season, but it really felt

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Speaker 1: like they had something good going before that kick. Dan

446
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Speaker 1: Is Dan has caught this at the perfect time because

447
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be accountable at all for this,

448
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Speaker 1: and I think he might have gone in a different

449
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: way anyway. But we went oh for four in our

450
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Speaker 1: so called pick him challenge against dam a second friends

451
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: by trying to I really thought New Orleans would win this.

452
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Speaker 1: We all picked the Saints and we were all, Oh,

453
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Speaker 1: we can't kill ourselves for back and forth game that

454
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Speaker 1: could have gone either way. Not killing myself for it.

455
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm already over it. I'm just pointing out the fact

456
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Speaker 1: that that's not going to help us get into this,

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00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, the first slot on that show that they

458
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Speaker 1: talk about, and yeah, that is disappointing, but who really

459
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Speaker 1: cares ultimately that final Saints possession. By the way, Brandon

460
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Speaker 1: Cook's thirty two yard touched un past six place seventy

461
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Speaker 1: five yards in a minute, right, he gets the ball

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Speaker 1: unit a touchdown. The defense had helped them out. Michael Thomas,

463
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: the Saints receiver, fumbled the ball twice in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: They had four turnovers. I think they would have won

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Speaker 1: the game if it's not for the Michael Thomas fumbles,

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Speaker 1: especially the first one. The defense, it was the best

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Speaker 1: of Saints defense has looked in a long time. And

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00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: I really came away thinking this Bronco's offensive line. If

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change, it's it's the end of them. So

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Speaker 1: you can't overcome it. Much bigger problem than the quarterback, yes,

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Speaker 1: I thought Simeon. I know he threw two bad interceptions today,

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Speaker 1: but until the first one, he was withstanding a lot

473
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Speaker 1: of hits making a lot of tough throws. He's got

474
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: no running game, he's keeping the ball on the field.

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00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: The Saints only had twenty minutes time of possession. I thought,

476
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Speaker 1: it's not his it's not on him. Well, he needed

477
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: to make some plays in this game. So if he did,

478
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: that's that's a good sign for him and his job security.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about when you because again I

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us have ever seen a

481
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Speaker 1: game decided like this before. And what what really sucks

482
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: about it? A lot of things sucks about suck about

483
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: it if you're a Saints fan of the Saints. But

484
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Speaker 1: when that happens, and maybe you don't know this or

485
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Speaker 1: some people don't know this, Not only do you give

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Speaker 1: up the two points, it's not like, all right, well

487
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Speaker 1: we can get it back. We got a minute sixty

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Speaker 1: Oh you're not kicking it off the other team to

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Speaker 1: kill it if you don't recover the onside kick, which

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming they did not game over, Well, I mean,

491
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: what a way to lose what percentage of when you

492
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Speaker 1: go into any NFL stadium, how many like we're on

493
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Speaker 1: top of that rule. The minute was happening, and knew

494
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Speaker 1: what was going on it's a relatively new rule. You

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Speaker 1: have to wonder if half the home crowd is thinking

496
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Speaker 1: what just occurred? And to everyone screaming at their mobile

497
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Speaker 1: devices or however they're listening to this podcast. First of all,

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Speaker 1: thank you the bottom of our hearts. But second we

499
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Speaker 1: should mention that millions of Saints fans believe Will Park

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Speaker 1: stepped out of bounds on the play. But his gleaming

501
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Joe Namath white cleats matched the gleaming white paint on

502
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Speaker 1: the carpet at the Superdome, so there just was no

503
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: clear view to overturn it, even though it looked very

504
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Speaker 1: close to be. It looked like he was out, but

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Speaker 1: I can get why they didn't overturn it. It It also

506
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: looked pretty clear that the Broncos held down the Saints

507
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: center on the play so that he couldn't like lift up,

508
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: because if you touch the center when you're jumping over,

509
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: it's a penalty. But people getting worked up about that,

510
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: that's called you know, that's a good play by Denver.

511
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Speaker 1: You know, you try to get away with little things. Yeah,

512
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: but you're dying as a Saint, so and you're like, oh, way,

513
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: that just happened. And when you have any inkling of

514
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Speaker 1: a chance to be like, no, this doesn't count, you're

515
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: gonna go nuts over. I think the crazy thing is

516
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Speaker 1: I came away from this feeling almost better about the Saints.

517
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: They protected Drew Brees against the Broncos very well, and

518
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Speaker 1: their defense Cameron Jordan's uh kenny of the cart they

519
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Speaker 1: played better than you could feel good about in the end. See,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the standings right now in the NFC,

521
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Speaker 1: if they were to put together some sort of wind streak,

522
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Speaker 1: they are right in this thing for a wild card

523
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Speaker 1: spot and out of conference loss. So you don't get

524
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Speaker 1: killed in the tiber. All these things matter as we

525
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Speaker 1: head towards December. Let's move on. Newton will throw and

526
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: caught at the thirty two yard line. It is caught

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Speaker 1: by Kelvin Benjamin. Now I've all taken away. The bulls

528
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Speaker 1: trot out of the end of the Playlet's pulled away

529
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Speaker 1: after twenty four yard line. It was Marcus Peters. Marcus

530
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Speaker 1: Peters just yanked the ball away from Kelvin Benjamin and

531
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Speaker 1: get from all to the twenty four yard line of Carolina.

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00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: Mitch Halter's k c f X. Marcus Peters is clutch

533
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: strip of Kelvin Benjamin was the play of the game,

534
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Speaker 1: setting up Cairo Santos thirty seven yard field goals time

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Speaker 1: expired to lift the seven and two Chiefs. That's right,

536
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: you're paying attention yet to win over the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: This was just a grizzly home loss for the defending

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Speaker 1: NFC champions, who were outscored seventeen to nil in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Greg rose at all time to convene the

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Speaker 1: fourth Committee. We could this is the NFC. They play

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night against the Saints. If that's not a

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00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: loser goes home game, I don't know what is the

543
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: thing that later by the way, I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know they're three and six, but the Panthers, for

545
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: for three quarters of this game, we're thinking, this is

546
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: exactly who we are. You know, we're controlling the ball,

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00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: we're running that Cam Newton's running. Our defense looks as

548
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: great as it did the last few weeks, and and

549
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: that was as tough a loss I've seen any team

550
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Speaker 1: take in the entire season. Maybe we can give up

551
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: on them. Win they're three and seven or three and

552
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: eight or three and nine. I mean, this is the

553
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: difference between this team and last year's team. I see differences.

554
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is getting waxed. They're turning the ball over more.

555
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: And they listen, they were winning these games last season

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00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: and you know, no question, but they were starting to

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of mojo working, which makes this

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00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: loss even more crushing for them because if they win

559
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: this game, they got a three game win streak, but

560
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: instead they're almost right back where they started. But with

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Speaker 1: time running out, I think it's it's a game that

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00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: it's very similar to me as the Saints game. I mean,

563
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: it's very similar to what happened to New Orleans. There

564
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: was I think the key part of this game. There

565
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: was a twenty play drive that the Panthers ended up

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Speaker 1: punting and they get it into the red zone. They're

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Speaker 1: going in for a three score lead going into the

568
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter at that point, and they go backwards, end

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00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: up having to punt and the game changes right there. Well,

570
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and as always we talk about the other team winner

571
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: lose before we talk about Kansas City, But how about

572
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: your boy Tyreek Hill ten catches. It's crazy. I mean,

573
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: he's almost like a guy you could play in fantasy leagues.

574
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: At this point, tyreek Hill. He's there. He was their

575
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Speaker 1: leading receiver. I mean, the Chiefs won a game. Here's

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00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: some things that happened. They had a hundred and sixty

577
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: five net passing yards, and they scored no touchdowns on offense,

578
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: and they and they won the game. Eric Berry's interception

579
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Speaker 1: to Cam Newton, which was on Cam was was an

580
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: unbelievable play by Eric Barry. Do you trust the Chiefs

581
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: how when you look at their ceiling? Last year they

582
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Speaker 1: win in the playoffs, they lost to New England. There

583
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Speaker 1: the number two seed in the a f C right now?

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00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Does anyone trust them in here to do real damage

585
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: in January? The Chiefs, I mean, I don't want to

586
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: fall down that wormhole in the sense that they couldn't.

587
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: I kind of think they're just as dangerous as any team,

588
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: but the Patriots, I really do. A f C is

589
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: pretty wide open other than New England at this point.

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, so if they could knock off a

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00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: couple of teams that aren't the Patriots, I wouldn't be stunned,

592
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: but we could easily see them one and done also,

593
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: so kind of on the fence, that would be the

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Speaker 1: definition of Oh. I think that someone else could start

595
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: to be you know, attributed to obvious on the fence nonsense.

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00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's ridiculous. The team that had no business

597
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Speaker 1: beating the three and six Panthers today is the second

598
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: most dangerous team in the NFC. I mean, I'm looking

599
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: to just this week. I think they've been really consistent.

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Speaker 1: The offense has been a big problem the last two weeks,

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00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: but until then, I thought they were showing some things

602
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: on offense. Um, all right, let's move on, gentlemen. And

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Speaker 1: uh oh, by the way, west Cam Newton brought back

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Speaker 1: the dab your thoughts You talked about the loser Goes

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00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: Home match. Um, I've listened to the podcast on Thursday,

606
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: took copious notes and then filed them away privately really

607
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: from my eyes only. But one thing was we weren't

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Speaker 1: really sure where we want to go with the term

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00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: for what is like the loser goes Home. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: want to kind of have our own that a wrestling term.

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00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of it was originally a wrestling term,

612
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: and now we're next thing I'm gonna talk about Miami

613
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: were San Diego. Um, So I came up with a

614
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: couple of different ones and wanted again running by the group. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here here's the first one. They think loser and METI dies.

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00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: It's a tad extreme. I kind of like it's definitive nature.

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00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: But what's see what else you got? It would mess

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00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: up the rest of the season, you know, just in

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Speaker 1: terms of scheduling. Actually, well, I don't want to have

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Speaker 1: any confusion. How about this loser disappointed? It's all the

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Speaker 1: father is disappointed. I mean that's pretty accurate, Like, yeah,

622
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: that might be the winner right there. All right, Well,

623
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: and here's the last one, loser unhappy with outcome, able

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Speaker 1: to keep it in. Robert, I think that's Uh, that's

625
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: a winner right there, very catchy. Which which is your

626
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: favorite one? I think it's got to be the third

627
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: because it also aligns with um kind of the league

628
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: mandate that we need to somehow sell these teams deep

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Speaker 1: into December. Alright, So coming up Thursday night only on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network, loser unhappy with outcome, but able to keep

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Speaker 1: it in. So let's check out that game. Uh dalf

632
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Speaker 1: in San Diego, whoa back to throw? Look fired, intercepted,

633
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: he got it, got Alonzo's got it at the forty,

634
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: chased out. He's at the twenty. He's at the ten,

635
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the five, there are no flags. Kick Alonzo interception six huge,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Cefalo, who gargles with Cephalo w K A M

637
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: with the call. Kiko Alonso's peaks pick six, the third

638
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: of four Philip Rivers fourth quarter interceptions was the deciding

639
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: play in the thirty one twenty four win for the

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00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Chargers in San Diego. Greg the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, guys, who had this one? Well, it must

642
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Speaker 1: have been me, because Mark has not picked a lock

643
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: of the Week in three weeks by process of elimination. Well,

644
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: you're picking the Chargers. That adds up, Greg anyway, So Greg,

645
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: you not lock it up. But the Dolphins have won

646
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: four straight. Well, the Chargers may have just punched their

647
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: ticket to the bone yard. Yeah, this is one in

648
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: the a f C. That's gonna be hard to imagine

649
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: them recovering from that. You gotta win this game at

650
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: home against Miami. Give the Dolphins secondary, who has been

651
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: much maligned this year, credit for making some good plays

652
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: on the ball. Two of those intercepts. Don't give the

653
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins secondary credit. Well, in this game, why not? They

654
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: blew coverages all through the game. Three penalties alone don

655
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Tren Dontrell m and drew On Bobby McCain a defensive

656
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: holding penalty gave the Chargers three fresh downs inside the

657
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: five yard line. This was not a second you go

658
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: a linebacker other pick six, right, I'm saying though, the

659
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: two of the interceptions, and I'm not even including the

660
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Alonza one, which is obviously a great play where great

661
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: individual efforts that that were. You kind of thought, Okay,

662
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: that's a bad throw by Rivers, but wow, what a

663
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: play by the defensive back. I mean, you give them credit.

664
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Speaker 1: They it was this Rivers pressing too hard, as as

665
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would say at times, Well here's the thing. You

666
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: threw four interceptions the fourth quarter and tucked in the

667
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: middle of all that was a brilliant drive where he

668
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: connected on a deep touchdown past to tie the game.

669
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: I think it was just I don't know, it's kind

670
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: of a weird thing to watch. More than anything, you

671
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: have to take each one of those plays separately. You

672
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: can't say there was one one motivating factor they determined

673
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: all four interceptions. I'm sure that on one of the

674
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: plays at least the receiver ran the wrong route, So

675
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that Rivers was just

676
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: pressing or something. The first two picks were both terrible.

677
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: One was I think at the one yard line, past

678
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: to the goal line at the goal and that got

679
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: picked off. And then the second pick, they were heading

680
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: back to the red zone where he was picked a

681
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: second time, so they were and then the third was

682
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: the pick six and the fourth came in their desperation

683
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: final drive, So each one was really painful. They were

684
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: backbreaking turnovers and and if you know you're catchy phrase,

685
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: what is the proper perspective for the charges here? You're

686
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: four and six now, every other team in the division

687
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: has seven wins, yet the bone yard is where you

688
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: go on the proper perspective as the last thirteen minutes

689
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: of this game ruined your season, Yeah, as did a

690
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: large chunk of the games you played earlier in the year.

691
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: And you've you've lived and died on these bizarre, dramatic,

692
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: down to the wire scenarios. But good teams don't go

693
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: through this every week. And you're you're gonna you got

694
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: burned too much at this point. You cannot survive a

695
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: game like this, and it's crazy to see what Miami

696
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: has done over the last month where we considered them

697
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: a month ago. I mean I had completely cast them off.

698
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: This is a big win for Miami. They they said,

699
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: you fool, you know nothing. I say, put down that fork.

700
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: This team has a run in them. I also believe

701
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: they'll fall back to the pack again. But I thought

702
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you got all the bases covered. I think they had

703
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: one run three or four games and it will probably

704
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: turn hard left any minute now. But they have that

705
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: run now where they're in the conversation, and good for

706
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: Dolphins fins. They have a new formula here. And Ryan

707
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Tannehill one of his best games of his career today.

708
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: His toughness stood out. Uh perfect throw to Kenny Stills

709
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: on a long touchdown and then he escaped Melvin Ingram

710
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: and ran for eighteen yards on a on a first down.

711
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: Three three plays later, hit Damian Williams for a perfectly

712
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: placed touchdown to give them a lead. And then late

713
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: in the game, he takes a shot from Corey Legion

714
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: in his neck while he's attempting to throw and still

715
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: hits DeVante Parker deep down the sideline for a game

716
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: tie and field goal. Really, I thought Tannehill play well

717
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: in here and their offense has not had a turnover

718
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: in their four game winning street. That's that's crazy, and

719
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: that's so un Dolphins and Tannehill. He could put up

720
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: some highlights. He's not consistent, but this year people get on.

721
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Remember the whole thing. He can't throw the ball deep.

722
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: He start the ball deep really well. This year he

723
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: also delivers balls like passes as he's getting crushed really well.

724
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: It's it's everything. It's almost like the easy stuff that

725
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: that he struggles with. This was a game, I mean,

726
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: he's putting putting a highlight reel. What were you saying

727
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: in the newsroom, Dan about Tannehill? Oh that you know

728
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: we were still aiding five years in for him to

729
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: hang some onion in a big spot late in the

730
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Nut up, I believe was the expression of

731
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: you used it and it seemed like he did not. Well,

732
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: he let a field goal drive. Let's come down, hey,

733
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: through an unbelievable pass. How about that? How about this? Greg?

734
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying so I know you're you're on that train,

735
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: even though you try to finished the drive, finished the drive.

736
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: That you could say that about the whole Dolphins team

737
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: over the last five years. I loved West by the

738
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: way I loved your theory on Thursday show again. I

739
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: listened to it privately from a u c l A

740
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: hospital room to copious notes handwritten. I think it was

741
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: five six pages Are you Gonna? And then at least

742
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: the notes to never It's all very deeply personal thoughts.

743
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: They were probably overtly positive from the end to end.

744
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm certain West your take that the Miami mercenaries buying

745
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: in now that things have are going in the right direction.

746
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: I like that. I believe it. I think that happens

747
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: every year with at least one or two teams in

748
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: the NFL that are built on free agents. That that

749
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: the way that Mike Tannenbaum imagined. That defensive line is

750
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: starting to come to fruition. Cameron Wake is playing great,

751
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Andre Branch had another big game. Earl Mitchell returned for

752
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: their team. Uh, and I think that's gonna be a

753
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: big factor for them. They're playing the Rams next week

754
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: in l A. I mean they shut down Melvin Gordon

755
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: on the ground. Gordon did all of his damage really

756
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: through the air. Ye. Rams defense not gonna be an

757
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: easy situation. I'm not saying that's an easy win. But

758
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: that's a winnable game. If you can win in San Diego,

759
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: you can win in l A. Didn't see any honking

760
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: from West's Desert Consigliari on Twitter today about Gordon Yeah,

761
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean he had a hundred and thirty yards. No

762
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: honkin though, It's all just like, I mean, who knows

763
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: what that guy's up to on o R on a

764
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: random Sunday. He could be well, we know what he

765
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: was up to last Sunday. Could there could be baccanalia

766
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: in Vegas. You know, let's check out another team in

767
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: the a f C playoff race. Titans offset the eye

768
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: of the left on first and five. They're gonna run

769
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: to Marco Murty a lot of room, thirty fifty thirty,

770
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: twenty five year, what's that? Titans? Denmark Murray to house.

771
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: That's a good job by you, Mike Keith the w

772
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: g f X de Marca Murray started things off with

773
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: the seventy five yard touchdown running. The Titans never looked back,

774
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: laying the wood to the spiraling Packers a forty seven

775
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: win in Nashville. Marcus Mariotta through four or more touchdown

776
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: passes for the Titans, who are suddenly alive and well

777
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: in the a f C South Race, Chris Westley, who's

778
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: more fun to watch than Titans? Look at you as

779
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: you're all back in now, Maybe the Cowboys? Other than that,

780
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: who's more fun to watch in these Titans? You like

781
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: those good offensive lines? Well, I think you're talking about

782
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: a style of play. A style of play, and we

783
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: wrote about this in the off season one of my

784
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: biggest articles of the off season, The Powerhouse Football is back,

785
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: pushing smaller defenses around. The Titans now have thirty five

786
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: or more points for three straight games, the first time

787
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: in their history of the Houston Oilers, Tennessee Titans twenty

788
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: six or more in six straight games. Marcus Mariota is

789
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the hottest quarterback in the league statistically, and this is amazing.

790
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: In of his games he has four more touchdowns. Um

791
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: regret continues to build on the old zeus Or fantasy

792
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: team dropping Marcus Mariota six weeks ago in favor of

793
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Well, it's building, it's even. It is the

794
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: worst decision in fantasy football history, but even worse because

795
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: of the man you kept instead of Yes, I was

796
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: faced with a very difficult situation again think back six

797
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Should I keep Marcus Mariota, who was a mess,

798
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: or Blake Bortles, who was also a mess but stacked

799
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: fantasy garbage points every once in a while, and I said,

800
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with Blake and I took the rake, or

801
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: just not pick up Tony Romo, the guy with the

802
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: broken collar. But listen, easy to say now, easy to

803
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: say now, Mr fancy Pats, what place are you in?

804
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Because we want to hear or about so you know,

805
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: said what are you in your so called division? I'm

806
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm no, it's not a division. It's just an overall

807
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: twelve team league. But um, Greg thought of my fantasy

808
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: team today, So the first time it's ever happened someone

809
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: thought of someone else's fantasy team. When Marcus Mariota, Mariota

810
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: is playing, he's making tough throws. He made some pen

811
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: point throws to Delaney Walker, Richard Matthews, Taj Sharp. Mariota

812
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: was almost flawless in the first half of this game,

813
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: and the Packers looked like dead men walking in the

814
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: first half. In the first quarter, they were out gamed

815
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: two or thirty one to seventeen yards. With eight seconds

816
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: left in the first quarter. It was. It was a

817
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: complete and utter thrashing. Thirty five to ten is the

818
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: biggest UH deficit at halftime since Aaron Rodgers has been

819
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I believe it was not a contest.

820
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick called the Packers collectively hung over. From what

821
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: I think Patrick hung over. You smell that. That's a

822
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: but I know a melting butt when I smell it. Oh,

823
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: it's Mike McCarthy. This is the first time I actually

824
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: believe he's in trouble because when you're getting now embarrassed

825
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: and we're all excited now about the Titans and they're

826
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: playing very well in the last month or so, but

827
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: this is how you get fired. We're past Mulligan territory.

828
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I think he's everybody agreely or not. I've thought Tom

829
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Papers is definitely in trouble. You know, he's Tom Caper's

830
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: has lived through a thousand disaster, will live. I think

831
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: if their offense is still ranked in the middle of

832
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: the league at the end of the year, McCarthy's going

833
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to go. Well the offense. I think it's it's his offense,

834
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: and if it's stale with Aaron Rodgers and his prime

835
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: for a second straight year, especially if they end up

836
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: with a losing record or out of the playoffs. Well,

837
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: the question will be for what. It all depends on

838
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: what and who is out there to make that switch,

839
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: because the Packers are not a team that does this

840
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: without doing a lot of thought behind it. They don't

841
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: throw us a Mandy Reid parallels a longtime coach and

842
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: offensive guru. You fire him two years later, maybe you

843
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: have to hire another branch of his coaching tree because

844
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: you hired the wrong guy and you didn't have a

845
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: better option. But Andy Reid would even admit it was

846
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: a good thing for him to get fired in Philadelphia.

847
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: He was kind of he had had too much power

848
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: almost And it's not the same thing with McCarthy. But

849
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get Mike McCarthy. He had

850
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: sort of reached the end of his rope. I guess

851
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: is what I was saying in Philadelphia, like he needed

852
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: a new start. I think stale is a good word

853
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: for their offense. I want to take a peek here

854
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: at the a f C South, which of course Wes

855
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: is but but uh, the Houston Texans six and three?

856
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: But are you know terrible? They stink let's be honest. Uh,

857
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: deep down, we all know it. Tennessee now five and five,

858
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: Indy four and five, and then the Jacks two and seven.

859
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: So even though there's a little bit of a cushion

860
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: right now for the Texans, Titans a real shot they

861
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: should be the favorite. Well, West, I was gonna ask you,

862
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: you've been saying until this minute that the Colts where

863
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: you're picking this division the last few weeks on this. Yeah,

864
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I tend to go back and forth with the Colts

865
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: and the Titans, but the Titans are clearly the better team.

866
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I just had more confidence in Andrew. I think this

867
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Titans team. Let's talk about the rest of the a

868
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: f C South. Here's the snap. Bortles looking left, fires

869
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: that way and if picked up by Kareem across the

870
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty cuts inside of the tent, over the five,

871
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: Kariem checks into the house, pick six. The Texans get

872
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: on the board first forty three yard I N T

873
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: return for the touchdown. That was Mark VanderMeer of k

874
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: I L T. Who they kilt? You think they have

875
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: like their call is like they get like a Scottish

876
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: brogue dot pipes. The haagpipes in Denver. Can we work

877
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: up a Kilt sound drop for the next week's show. Absolutely?

878
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna need a Jaguars drop? We

879
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: need a Scottish guy because I can't. My Scottish accent

880
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: is basically an Irish, so it's like, that's that's not Scott.

881
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: Dan suddenly worried about accuracy of his for I always

882
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: worry about it because it's a commitment to excellence anyway.

883
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson was the latest defensive back to reap the

884
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: benefits of Blake bortles endless string of first quarter humiliation,

885
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: running back in the interception forty two yards for a

886
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: touchdown and helped propel the Texans to one win over

887
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who should be relegated. Mark brock oslo through

888
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: for just ninety nine yards. But you don't have to

889
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: be Montana when facing the NFL's Inland beach house. I

890
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: can't believe it. I mean, we talked on Thursday about

891
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: the fact that the Texans were going to be six

892
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: and three on Sunday night, and then it was all

893
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: a comprehensive mirage your quarterback. We just talk about Marcus Mariotta,

894
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: who is doing things that no Titans really even Oiler's quarterback.

895
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: You can factor in Warren Moon to some degree, has

896
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: done the surly in one's career. And then you go

897
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: to Houston or Yes, your record looks nice because you're

898
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: picking up wins against the Jaguars and you're a defensive

899
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: led team. It's not gonna last for long. They are

900
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: not going to be able to stave off Tennessee if

901
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: games if if Tennessee continues to play the way it is.

902
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this offense is built on

903
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: any level at this point. And they've got a major

904
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: quarterback problem that we've hammered into the dirt. Nothing's changed

905
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: with this game. You you got by the Jacksonville Jaguars

906
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: thanks to another awful performance by Blake Bortles and a

907
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: opponent in the Jaguars that you have no business losing

908
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: to or even beating by just three points. The gabber

909
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: zone is too generous for Brock Osweiler. Congratulations, Rock, You've

910
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: done this. This is their recipe, though I think a recipe.

911
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: This is the recipe, and it's that's like making a

912
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: brick in your You are right about it is the recipe.

913
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: The recipe is, that's what happens if if you hold

914
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: the team, you have the opposing team to under a

915
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, you hold the opposing quarterback to under

916
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: four yards per attempt, but you lose the game. You

917
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: got bracked. You got bracked, just got bracked by the Texans.

918
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna come in, We're gonna not throw the ball.

919
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna look so bad you can't believe what happens,

920
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: but at the end of the game, we want it.

921
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: You got bracked. Are so shot on West, not believing

922
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: where Greg's coming from. You can, you can have brocked.

923
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: But it's not a recipe. That's something they get lucky

924
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: to do every once in a while based on randomness

925
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: of their opponent. Well, I would say the recipe is

926
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: leaning almost exclusively on their defense to shut down opposing

927
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and score points like they did today. It's their

928
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: defense that have gotten to this point. It's not sustainable.

929
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't care what the final record is. I don't

930
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: care where they go. They're not gonna go anywhere in January,

931
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: and they are suddenly, very clearly not the best team

932
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: in their division. I don't think that was true three

933
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: weeks ago, ran for a hundred and eighty one yards,

934
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: including a Keem Hunt can against Jacksonville. Can brock Os

935
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: or can Blake Bortles play safety because he's not quarterback

936
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: right now? You can't have a newcomer come in and

937
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: steal the show. Jacksonville is going to finish the season

938
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: probably around four and twelve, and they might have a

939
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: very difficult decision to make with that first pick. Let's

940
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. And now this week's insane

941
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: sound by it from a completely real CBS primetime series

942
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: carbon doction, just collecting dangerous levels that the bed of

943
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: the lake town faces disaster, the lake's are about to explode.

944
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: That's a good one, But Greg, can you please No,

945
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I can't even say it. And it's not coming from you,

946
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: it's coming from a SI. It all needs to be

947
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: beeped out. But this from there was a Blue Blood

948
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: trailer or commercial a couple of weeks ago where the

949
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: guy kept saying she's a murder victim because she was

950
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: no murder suspect. I blew it. It's over. We're bleeping

951
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: that out. That's just for the Give it to me again,

952
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: Give it to me again she's a her suspect because

953
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: she's was. What does that even mean? I don't know,

954
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: but it's a disturbing thing to having a commercial. Not

955
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: only and CBS come back to us with some of

956
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: these shows. My god, Kevin can wait is leading into

957
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Last Man in the House with Matt LeBlanc right now,

958
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: whoa Tiffany Network come back to us the fact that

959
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: the murder suspect thing was they pulled that from the

960
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: other like what's the best line in this episode? Let's

961
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: go with that? And then and then today's was about

962
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: the lake exploding? How does the lake explode? It just

963
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: sounds like endless clickbait material television on some level. Scorpio

964
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: Monday's nine pm on CBS, that's where you can find

965
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: that serious about how do it lake explodes? Now? Speaking

966
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: of explosions, the two thousand sixteen New York Jets shotgun

967
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: for Price Petty drops back left and it looks like

968
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: it's been accepted by all the focal tree, but Metal

969
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: Linebacker for the Rams picks it off intended for Quincy

970
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: a none and the Jets will lose it today to

971
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams in a battle between two going

972
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: nowhere teams. The Los Angeles Rams leaned on their defense

973
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: and a oh yeah, nine six win over the Jets,

974
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: spoiling Bryce Petty's first career start. Petty had a few

975
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: moments uh here. The best was a nine yard touchdown

976
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: drive in the second quarter that ended with the hook

977
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: and ladder, which we need more hook and ladder in

978
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: our lives in a non like end of game scenario.

979
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: But it became uh. He became increasingly tentative here as

980
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: the Jets were shut out in the second half. The

981
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: Jets are now three and seven, obviously going nowhere. I

982
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: think they should bring back Bryce Petty, uh for the

983
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: rest of the season. We'll see how they come back

984
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: from their bye week. Uh. Todd Bowls has any brains

985
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: to me? You stick with the kid and get an

986
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: idea of what's going on with his development and on

987
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: the RAM side, guys, and there really doesn't need to

988
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: be too much to talk about this game on the

989
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: RAM side because when you guys, I know you guys,

990
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: you guys devour tape. This will be an easy watch.

991
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: This will be thirty minutes. I would think on the

992
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: game pass, they'll find a way to get um the

993
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: Rams again. Sticking with case Keenan for god knows what reason,

994
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: he was terrible in this game. Um, and I could

995
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: not make a play, although there, I must say again

996
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: in the first half, and this shows you again how

997
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: terrible this Jet season has gone. Case Keenum and Kenny

998
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Britt were picking on Durell Rievers in the first half. Um,

999
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley actually found some holes in the second half,

1000
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: so they had they were able to do some things.

1001
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: But yes, the Rams are four and five, and I

1002
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: figured out something with the Rams. Guys. This is how

1003
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher gets to seven wins every year. It doesn't

1004
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: get to more than seven or eight. But every game

1005
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: you have three or four like sewer game, like Sewer

1006
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: type games every year where it's just a bad game

1007
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: between two kind of going nowhere teams. The Rams always

1008
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: seem to win those games, so they pick up four

1009
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: wins there, three or four wins. Then they have their

1010
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: two NFC West upsets every year, so all of a

1011
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: sudden you're up to like five or six, and then

1012
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams that you're actually just actually

1013
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: better than you take care of business, and there's seven

1014
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: or eight there. But and it's always the same script

1015
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: and this is a super checks out seward game that

1016
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: they took care of today. I mean, this is the

1017
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: third game this season, Am I right here that they

1018
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: haven't scored a touchdown? This is the NFL? Did they

1019
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: win all those games there? Two and one in those games?

1020
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Jeff's I mean, that's what Jeff Fish in the last

1021
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: three weeks combined. Here's the stat of the day. The

1022
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Rams had eight plays in the red zone in this game,

1023
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: and they were went for negative seven yards, including first

1024
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: This again, Jeff Fisher come back to us as well.

1025
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a preview of Jeff Fisher's Monday press commerce.

1026
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: I thought Case played well. Yet Case played well, Case

1027
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: wasn't the problem. First and goal from the one in

1028
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: the first quarter, A run to Benny Cunningham fumble, however,

1029
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: h a past attempt incomplete, a pass to the left

1030
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: flat taken down for two yard loss. Todd Gurley never

1031
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 1: touches the ball and then you send out the field

1032
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: goal kicker for a twenty yard or uh. Todd Gurley

1033
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: never touched the ball fun times. I'm not even sure

1034
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: if that's a bad thing this year. Todd Gurley doesn't

1035
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: touch the ball you'll see in the second half what

1036
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: he had some holes and actually looked a little bit

1037
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: like a dynamic running back. Um, this could be we

1038
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: might have to put this on temporary hiatus. CBS doesn't

1039
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: put anything on hi how it is because all the

1040
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: old people watch all their shows. But this could be

1041
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: the last Keith Hansas of visit for a little bit

1042
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: because the Jets are completely irrelevant. But let's hear from

1043
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: my dad. His name is Keith. He's dance dad. You

1044
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: don't doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. Well

1045
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: is he going to sing game to say? What? Is

1046
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: he go to Jets week tend for his say anything. First,

1047
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate Danny and his wife and the

1048
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: person that new baby boy, and out to some more

1049
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: some more stressing news. The Jets terrible game nine six

1050
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: that was between two offensively challenged teams. Uh where Also,

1051
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: just looking at the game, the announcing team had to

1052
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: be a great deep pair there because we haven't heard

1053
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: either one of these guys, and boy, I thought they

1054
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: were terrible. But the big thing was I thought Petty's

1055
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: first game didn't look too good. He seemed to lose

1056
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: it all after him he had that misconnection on a

1057
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: bomb and after that that pick at the end was

1058
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: just forcing it terrible. Um, that's basically it. I'm not

1059
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: sure why Petty was smiling at midfield at the end

1060
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: of the game. I would think he would have been

1061
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: a little more intense, but maybe you're just happy he

1062
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: was sorry. That's it. By Can I say one thing

1063
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: about your dad? You know the list of or can

1064
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: ride with us on things that we enjoy, maybe more

1065
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: than some listeners would. I don't deep six that aspect

1066
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: of the show at all if your dad is is

1067
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: unwilling to do it because it's becoming painful. But I

1068
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: think the thing about your dad and the reason the

1069
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: Jets fandom got handed down to you is because you

1070
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: don't disappear in week ten, week eleven. You take it

1071
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: to the end. And by the way, his analysis is

1072
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: concise and correct. I think t D has some competition

1073
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: for body language reading. Keith Hansis is very big on

1074
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: body out for Penny. Did that bother you? I missed that.

1075
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: I have to go back and check it. That's why

1076
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: we need your dad here. No, I think you know

1077
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: you make a very compelling case. You know, I think

1078
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: I I love to hear uh, my dad, And I

1079
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: think I won't say, by the way, who that announcing

1080
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: team was, or that's what I've been googling the last

1081
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Haven't figured it was the Tom Brennaman Charles

1082
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: Davis team. You can't, you can't, can't. The thing Charles

1083
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: Davis typically does a great job, honestly, like he's been

1084
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: very a three man booth with him and Chris Spielman

1085
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: has been really good. One thing that got on my

1086
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: radar and the the game was and this is a

1087
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: trait that that bugs me about all announcing teams, but

1088
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: when there's a bad quarterback involved and you still feel

1089
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: the need to shower them with praise, even like the

1090
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: more they struggle, almost when they do something even halfway competent,

1091
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: you have the double down. Like at one point case

1092
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: Keenum Uh, he scrambled for a first down in dove

1093
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: head first, and I think it was Brennaman just lost

1094
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: his s He was like, oh, you could see the

1095
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: grit and determination in his face. You know, stinks we're

1096
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna shower him with praises. Uh. Keith Hanson stays on

1097
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: the air and let's move forward by Oncet. The dropping

1098
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: was a looking stow to feel he's got about white overs.

1099
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: It's Freddy Martino to the gold line. Touchdowns have a

1100
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: very funking it's gonna touchdown zone. Freddy Martino's first career touchdown,

1101
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: grabbed just a second catch as a pro, and the

1102
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: Buccaneers score on the opening series of the second half.

1103
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: Gene Decker half w f U S sound like a

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00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: good grandfather. You could tell him his boys kindly, probably

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: with his uh clean that children clean that one uh

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00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: in my research. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers kept their season

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: alive on Sunday, whipping up on the dreadful Chicago Bears

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: in a thirty six ten win at the Pirate Ship.

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: I just made that up. Jamis Winston played one of

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: his best games of the season, throwing for three twelve

1111
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. Greg Tampa Bay has a lot

1112
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: of flaws, but there is a pulse on a day

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: where every other NFC South team went down. Yeah, and

1114
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: the standings there is it's it's funny to think that

1115
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: there there's a pulse ahead of the Panthers and tied

1116
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: with the Saints, because to me, they're not even close

1117
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: to in their caliber, and they're not factors the rest

1118
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: of the year. But one thing I loved watching this game,

1119
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone will see the highlights. It's something

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: that Jamis Winston has been doing great all year, which

1121
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: is improvising and scrambling. I don't think he can make

1122
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: a living for the rest of his career doing that,

1123
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: but he is one of the best quarterbacks throwing outside

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00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: the pocket this year. I'm just kind of making plays

1125
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: up as he goes along. It's fun to watch. If

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00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: nothing else all of that is true, Are you ready

1127
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: to ditch your false narrative that Jake Cutler is somehow bound?

1128
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: I said, I thought he had a chance. Clearly I

1129
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: was wrong, return up three killer turnovers in this game.

1130
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: Five page five of my notes from Thursday shows entirely

1131
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: uh dedicated to the heat between West and Greg over

1132
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler that's been carrying on for about I was

1133
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: wondering West's face started to look like a ball before

1134
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: he entered the ring, and I honestly didn't know what

1135
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: was happening. I'm talking about just now, I was. I

1136
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: haven't watched this game at all, so I was no idea.

1137
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: If he plays well harkening back to the dozens of

1138
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: tweets I got today from Bears fans thanking me for

1139
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: saying that Jake Cutler is You're not worthy of any praise.

1140
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: I felt. I fell for one one good primetime game.

1141
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: Easy do for that. I guess every year, Yeah, well

1142
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: you had, you had four attempts at it. So he's

1143
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: probably the biggest teas I've ever seen in sports. J

1144
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Cutler contributed three turnovers in the first half a load alone,

1145
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: including a pick six to Chris Conte and a fumble

1146
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: inside Tampa's ten yard line that ended a scoring chance.

1147
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: The Bears are now eight and sixteen under John Fox,

1148
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: who was also oh oh my buttocks. No, I don't

1149
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: think you don't think he's uh oh. I think they

1150
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: had been playing better the last few weeks. Anyways. I

1151
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: think when you have the youngest team in the NFL

1152
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: for the second straight year by far, they're gonna be

1153
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: gradium on a curve, and I think they're they're in

1154
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: it with this GM and coach. What you're gonna start

1155
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: all over again to every two to happen. They're definitely

1156
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna start all over on offense next year. You have

1157
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: to do you want Foxy involved on a complete offense

1158
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: reach receiver, you got Cameron Meredith, al Sean Jeffery is

1159
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: going to the highest bidder. He's probably You've got a

1160
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: draft to quarterback and you've got to show that you

1161
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: can develop a quarterback. Is that is that John Fox?

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I would. I'm not saying he's my favorite,

1163
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: UH coach. In fact, yeah, it's kind of been the opposite.

1164
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna It all boils down

1165
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: to who enters the race and if someone that we

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: don't expect becomes available as a head coach or more

1167
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: coordinators pop up between now and then, I mean, what

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: what what does it say about the Bears if it

1169
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: doesn't entice you to maybe look around? What is your

1170
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: ceiling in Chicago? By the way, the Bucks? Who are

1171
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: you know? In the standings at Chiefs versus Seahawks, at

1172
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: Chargers versus Saints at Cowboys at Saints by I mean,

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean every game, no matter who they're playing. As

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: a coin flip, oh, if they win two of those games,

1175
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: I would be stunned. I mean, I think the over

1176
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: under is half a game. What I'm just saying that

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: have you watched there? Really turned on your bucks tape. Greg,

1178
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: we talked about this, I don't want to slide back

1179
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: saying those are good teams at Kansas City, that's at

1180
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, you know the Seahawks, that's Gregg has a

1181
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: very questionable past that the three of us have simply

1182
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: overlooked to allow this podcast to go on without an

1183
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: investigation attached to it. You have worked very hard and

1184
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: we're all very proud of you. We just don't want

1185
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: to slide This is almost as fictional as Dan's Coletown roots.

1186
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: Did I tell you that I had a pet and

1187
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: it was a Canarrea? Enough said NCST Talk. Captain Zero's

1188
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: got two game winning kicks in his career. He'll try

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: for a third. Here here's the snap spot kick on

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: the way. It is up and it is good. It

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: is good, and the Cardinals have wanted a big win

1192
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: for Arizona to get back to four four and one

1193
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: on the season. Chandler Canta Zero, Canta Zero, you must

1194
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: have been green with envy at his casual drop of

1195
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Captain Zero. Captain zero is what it was, Channeler Cata

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: and Zero didn't miss this time. The kicker swung the

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: leg and converted on the thirty four at field goal

1198
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: as time expired, lifting the Cardinals to a desperately needed

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Speaker 1: win over the feeble San Francisco forty Niners. Mark The

1200
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals got back to five hundred, but well handed out lollipops.

1201
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: We're needing sixty minutes to knock off the Niners. I'm

1202
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: just not gonna do it. You want a lollipop, go

1203
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: get it for somebody else, maybe that kindly grandfather Gene

1204
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: Decker off of w FUS, But it ain't coming from

1205
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: the around the nflpod. If Gene is handing it out,

1206
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: that's one option. You're gonna need to be buying your

1207
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: own candy and thank you pieces to yourself at this

1208
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: point your four four and one. And I understand the

1209
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: NFC is a big disaster outside of two or three teams,

1210
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: but I I don't know what the Cardinals. I mean,

1211
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: this was not the win that you would would say

1212
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: as an impressive when I need to go back and

1213
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: watch it and full, but just looking at it from

1214
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view, give me more. I think there's

1215
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: the low point of their season. I mean not really.

1216
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Because you get a win, you feel good, but in

1217
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: terms of how I feel about the Cardinals, which and

1218
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: how maybe we should look at the Cardinals. I think

1219
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: it's as bad a result as they've had to score

1220
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: three points in the second half against the forty Niners

1221
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: and have it come down to a last second drive

1222
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: for your second half drives to be fumble, punt interception,

1223
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: punt interception and then the field goal, which they did

1224
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: pull off to win the game. That's good against the

1225
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: forty Niners. That's just it's crazy. But one question, I mean,

1226
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: the Niners have been the run defense has been such

1227
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: a massive disaster. David Johnson two point nine yards per carry,

1228
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: held a fifty five yards. This is arguably the best

1229
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: running back in football. You still you still had an

1230
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: impact the hundred total yards and two touchdowns. Well, he

1231
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: always finds a way through the air to do just

1232
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: as much as he does on the ground. To wait

1233
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: for game pass to see. But the offensive line was

1234
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: the issue at Carolina before the bye. There were no

1235
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: holes for him. He was getting hit in the backfield.

1236
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: It's not on David Johnson. One of the reasons I

1237
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: wanted to fork the Cardinals. Look at their schedule. They

1238
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: close out with five of seven games on the road,

1239
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: the easy stuff, those road games. Maybe next week at Minnesota,

1240
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: which plays a lot tougher in their new home stadium.

1241
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: This is when they needed uh. They won, and NFL

1242
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: players will tell you they don't care how the winds come.

1243
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: They got to win and they move on. But this

1244
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: one I would have been good to have, you know,

1245
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: a nice thirty seven to six win where everybody is

1246
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: flying and you're getting a little swagger back, and then

1247
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: you go to Minnesota and try to knock that team off.

1248
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: But where coming out of this game, where is the confidence?

1249
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: I would think it's not any better or worse than

1250
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: it was before. The line is this much of an issue?

1251
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: And it's been, you know, for a number of teams

1252
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: in this division. Seattle's found a way around it for

1253
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: the most part. But if you're Arizona and it's crippling

1254
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 1: your offense to that degree, what what are we're gonna

1255
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna win a couple more games and it's gonna

1256
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: be over. Let's move on, which takes us to Sunday night.

1257
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, a great Sunday of football, ends with another

1258
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: tremendous game. The Seattle Seahawks on the oade at Foxboro.

1259
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Uh go ahead by a touchdown with with four minutes

1260
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: to play, I decided to go for two. Do not

1261
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: convert puts the Patriots in a spot where they can

1262
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: march down the field and tie the game with a

1263
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: touchdown and and an extra point. The Pats go all

1264
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: the way down the field to the doorstep to the

1265
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: goal line. They can't get on first down, second down,

1266
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: third down, which led us to the final play of

1267
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots game. On offense, and this is what it

1268
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: sounded like. Gronkowski lines up as the full back now

1269
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: splits out all kinds of action in the end zone.

1270
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: They look for a flag. They see none. Chancellor with

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: a coverage and Seattle's gonna win it. What a finish

1272
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: rob Gronkowski cannot pull in the pass. Uh. You know, well,

1273
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: we don't know how we'll talk about whether or not

1274
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: there should have been a flag on the play. But

1275
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: the final score thirty one to twenty four. The Seahawks

1276
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: takedown the New England Patriots and Chris Westlan takedown one

1277
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: of your Sandwich props from just last week. Their first

1278
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: loss under Tom Brady. They fall to seven and two.

1279
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: See I was waiting for Sydney's drop at the beginning

1280
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: of a long losing street. Uh why would you say that.

1281
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did lose that sandwich wager, as

1282
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: I have all sandwich wagers so far this year. Uh.

1283
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: As far as the call at the end of the game,

1284
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: grounk initiated the contact, thenk cam Chancellor grabbed his arms.

1285
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: I think you could have called that any one of

1286
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: three ways and it would have been fine. I think,

1287
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, it calls the right call there when when

1288
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: there's that much contact. That's one of the reasons why

1289
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to throw that play in

1290
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: that situation. I guess you could argue, okay, maybe you

1291
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: could get a flag and then you get an extra play,

1292
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: But to me, that's a low percentage play. The last

1293
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: two play calls were curious. I know Brady has a

1294
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: great history with sneaky in the ball. It makes sense

1295
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: to me on first down that they did it. They

1296
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: were trying to, you know, rush it. They maybe were

1297
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: trying to burn a little clock or make the Seahawks,

1298
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, waste the time out if it doesn't work.

1299
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: But those two blast plays where low percentage plays on

1300
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: the goal, what would you have liked to see um

1301
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: not saying this in a challenging manner, but what would

1302
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: you gart I would have liked to see him run

1303
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: four down more than one time from the one yard

1304
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: line in fourth place? What about the fourth down though?

1305
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: You want to run blood fourth down? Interesting? Well, he

1306
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: got very close. I mean he got within a whisper

1307
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: and sent him right over the top again. Yeah, and

1308
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know he what is that knocks him

1309
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: down from one to nine percent conversion rate on the sneak.

1310
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: I didn't mind that call either. They just didn't get

1311
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: it done. Didn't get it done. And uh, you have

1312
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: to like where the Seahawks are sitting on a night

1313
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: where c J. Precise emerged as a new weapon for

1314
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: this offense. They're a second half team every year anyway,

1315
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: and now you've got Precise, who goes with a hunt

1316
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: and fifty yards and he allows them to do things

1317
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: that Kristen Michael doesn't do. Kristin Michael doesn't run routes.

1318
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,479
Speaker 1: You can line them up outside, but he's just running straight.

1319
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: He's not running routes like c J. Prosise does. Seahawks

1320
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: had four and twenty yards and ten drives. So that

1321
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: continues their rebirth, if you want to call it that.

1322
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Russell Wilson was all the way

1323
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: back last week. People think I want to see a

1324
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: little more runny. I mean, he was electric against Buffalo.

1325
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: He was electric delivering the ball, uh tonight. And they're

1326
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: a past first team, I think. And when they get

1327
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls back, if he's like Thomas Rawls and you

1328
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: have Michael you can use in certain situations, they'll be

1329
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: able to run the ball enough. But they're a pass

1330
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: first team in this in this Patriots defense. Any concerns

1331
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: I had going into the game, obviously they're heightened now

1332
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: after this one. Well, it's a good thing that you

1333
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: dub Jamie Collins. I mean, it's just a bit now, Sydney,

1334
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 1: is it really fresh or funny? It was always? Is

1335
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: it really that? Is it really that dynamic or an inventive?

1336
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: At this point? It's funny. It's pretty good. It's funny.

1337
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: This is helping, that's helping the bait. Let's just go ahead, Sydney.

1338
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: You want to play it again. That's the most smug

1339
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: look I've ever seen on Sydney's face. Like it, I

1340
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: think we just got a little attitude behind the glass

1341
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: Seahawks schedule. Think about what these teams really are coming up?

1342
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: Eagles next week, that's interesting. Then the Bucks a stink fest,

1343
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: the Panthers, who everyone still wants to call an NFC

1344
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: playoff team but are not. The Packers who are mean,

1345
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: the Rams who are a mess, card Rules who are

1346
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: a mess. And they closed with the forty Niners. Just

1347
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: let him go, Just let him go. They could wind

1348
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: up walking away with the number one seed in the

1349
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 1: NFC if Dallas crumbled. But Dallas to me, Dallas in Seattle,

1350
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: that's a fascinating You want to talk about the teams

1351
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: that are for real. That's two NFC teams that are

1352
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: for really, two back to back great games. When's the

1353
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: last time you saw a four four o'clock game lead

1354
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: into the Sunday night game and two of the best

1355
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: games of the season. I mean that that staff they

1356
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: showed that the first week in NFL history, with two

1357
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: games of seven lead changes, there wasn't an eighth. I mean,

1358
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: the odds of the Patriots not scoring there once they're

1359
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: on the one yard line with forty five seconds to

1360
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: go are pretty low. I mean, I don't know what

1361
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: the odds would be. It almost makes it a little

1362
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: too cute and a little too obvious for everyone writing

1363
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: this game, I mean, flipping Super Bowl around, it's insane.

1364
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: You can't write this stuff. Don't don't write that narrative

1365
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 1: the next day. I'm not, but I'm saying that's that's

1366
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna be it. I mean, it's the exact same game

1367
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: is exactly not the exact same, but very similar. Can

1368
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I go back because I think on a big week

1369
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: for the Patriots where Donald Trump was elected, very excited

1370
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: the leadership on down about Trump's America to to fall

1371
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 1: on Sunday night kind of in direct opposition, But I digress.

1372
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: Down at the after the touchdown by Seattle, the third

1373
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: touchdown reception from Doug Baldwin, the decision is gonna go

1374
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: for two was fascinating by Pete Carroll who uh Daniel

1375
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: Jeremiah greg had a good line about it. But the point,

1376
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: the chance here was there up seven they had they

1377
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: wanted to go up nine to basically with four and

1378
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: a half minutes ago, potentially bury New England. But the

1379
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: flip side to me was too dangerous. Um too much

1380
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: sugar for a dime is a Texan term in this case,

1381
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: Uh that you leave it at seven if you miss

1382
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: And indeed, since this was Sunday of week ten, where

1383
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 1: everyone misses every two point conversion over six today in Pittsburgh,

1384
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: uh that that they left the door open. I didn't

1385
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: like that move. Greg. You let your best player, who's

1386
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: playing an electric, almost perfect second half, try to put

1387
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: the game away right there in Foxboro four minutes left.

1388
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: I always like putting the ball in the hands of

1389
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: your best player and then you know your defense can

1390
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: go win the game for you if it doesn't work out.

1391
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's what they did. Well, they

1392
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: stopped him at the goal line, So we know we'll

1393
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: never really I guess no on some level, but um,

1394
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: we did capture NBC captured Bill Belichick mouthing, uh two

1395
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: people in his headset why would they go for two?

1396
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: So Belichick certainly wasn't expecting that. Well, but I mean,

1397
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: I I see why a lot of people wouldn't be

1398
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: expecting it, or would you know, strug it off as

1399
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: an ill decision. But Seattle's just always sort of done

1400
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 1: things on the field, with Pete Carroll up in the

1401
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: front office, with their entire operation that they're their own way.

1402
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that they had they nailed that

1403
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: two point conversion, we would be hailing Pete Carroll for

1404
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: being total. I was first guessing it. I didn't like

1405
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: it before they did it, and then it just looked

1406
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: even if they if you if you get it, the

1407
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: game is over. Basically, don't think it made sense. What

1408
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: was the worst case? Worst case scenario is you don't

1409
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: put New England in a position where they score a

1410
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: touchdown and then they have to convert to which is

1411
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: not a gimme in this league, as I mean, it's

1412
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: a it's a move though, that speaks to a greater confidence,

1413
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: which is partly why the Seahawks are who they are,

1414
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: because they're gonna go for it. They're gonna do things

1415
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: a little unconventionally. It's the same reason why Bill Belichick

1416
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: can trade away Jamie Collins in the middle of the

1417
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: season and there's a lot of people mouthing on the phone,

1418
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot worse things than why would they do that?

1419
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: It makes they were they were mouth and some f bombs?

1420
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: Why why why would they change Jamie Collins? Why do

1421
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: you gotta Land and Roberts covering down the field? It's

1422
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: because you have a certain confidence of the way you're

1423
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna do things, and over time, I think that that

1424
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: affects your team. Can you unpack too much sugar for

1425
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: a dime? No, I don't do something I've heard from

1426
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: my my mother in law and my wife many times.

1427
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: They need to update some phrases. I mean, even for

1428
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: just what money gets you these days, sugar for a dime.

1429
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: There isn't a human you know that is under the

1430
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: age of thirty five or forty that that makes any

1431
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: sense to um this. This will sound like a Throne

1432
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: of Sleeves type of take take care. But maybe it's

1433
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world for the Patriots

1434
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: to lose the game and for Bill bell because I

1435
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick was pretty upset about this defense. And

1436
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: I think you saw it again and and maybe they

1437
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: are going to improve. Maybe they aren't. They traditionally finished strong, uh,

1438
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: and I think they'll get better. But maybe this is

1439
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: one of those games that he can get it through

1440
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: to his guys that they're not that good on defense. Uh. Correction,

1441
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: too much sugar for a dime is something that is

1442
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: more trouble than it's worth. That's just the the phrasing

1443
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: in Texas and other places. I don't know where else,

1444
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. One one last thing I have

1445
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: for this game. Uh, the best quarterback in the field

1446
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: was not Tom Brady. Tom Brady had a great game.

1447
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: Tom made some nice throws. He mad, he dropped some

1448
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: absolute perfect throws. Tommy didn't throw a touchdown today. Uh,

1449
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: Tommy threw a pick. Tommy's fascerating was south of a hundred.

1450
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I call a hashtag. This is the

1451
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: game that you're going to attempt to This is all

1452
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: I have. You're gonna attempt to angle your movement around

1453
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: this game. You're in big trouble. I thought you abandoned

1454
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: that movie. I know so since la Garett Blunt had

1455
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: three short touchdowns on drives that Tom Brady led down

1456
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: the field with beautiful passes, then he didn't have a

1457
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: good night. That movement is a derelict cabin in the

1458
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: middle of the woods with weeds growing all over and

1459
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: nature reclaiming it as its own. First thing. First and

1460
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: goal just outside the end zone. Cannot convert. Maybe maybe

1461
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: a better quarterback does. That's all I'm say. I mean, Dan,

1462
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: you're now a father of two. It's time to see

1463
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: things with clear eyes, and you refuse to do that.

1464
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: You live in a false world. Do it for your family, guys,

1465
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: watch your little game pass extra, where goes our fourteen?

1466
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: And then you tell me, listen, I'm not pleased about that.

1467
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: Who was the better quarterback on this day? That's all

1468
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: I got, That's all we got. And I'm sorry, Greg,

1469
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: if I got a little carried away watching the game

1470
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: in the second half, I don't like to like well

1471
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: all then on people's radars, it would have been fine,

1472
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: except you announced to the room you know what, Greg,

1473
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna soften my approach and just not seeing anything more.

1474
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: And then you dig right into a myriad of diet

1475
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: tribes pretending to be Belichick, pretending to do you know,

1476
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: you just started to sing, But it was with myself.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the day. That's one of those things

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Speaker 1: you just file away and you knowed it and the

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Speaker 1: next time you know, the the Jets or the Browns

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Speaker 1: are in irrelevant primetime game. Why am I? I'll bring

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Speaker 1: it up? Why am I involved? I didn't say a

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Speaker 1: single word during that broadcast to you is awfully generous

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. You guys. You guys know it all.

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Speaker 1: It must be cool to know everything. Um, the geniuses. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can see everything and are including in that listen.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about you like West, I quit

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Speaker 1: my team so I can just make these type of

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Speaker 1: judgments on other people's favorites and guys like oh, I'll

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Speaker 1: file that away and miss their throne. You don't get this,

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01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: that break my team? My team quit me? Well, agree

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Speaker 1: to this. This is out of things to say when

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Speaker 1: he just there, it's going, Oh the experts running around anyway,

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Speaker 1: he made some good points. It was a great game.

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Speaker 1: It was a great Sunday night and a great week

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Speaker 1: of football in a great podcast, and um, thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone for listening. Make sure you check out by

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Speaker 1: the Way on iTunes again. And we're overdue for Itune

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Speaker 1: comment reader feet listener feedback. So if you leave a comment, uh,

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Speaker 1: we may just read it on this very podcast. And

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Speaker 1: wouldn't that make you feel great or terrible because we

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Speaker 1: might come back at you with some fire. Give a

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Speaker 1: five star review. Give a five star review. It helps,

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Speaker 1: It all helps. Okay, let's get out of here. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing off for a quiet storm. The

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Speaker 1: mail man, the Boss, and the wonderful last seed behind

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Speaker 1: the glass until Tuesday. Yeah, she's a murder suspect because

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Speaker 1: she's a crude. I'm just in a defense from murder.

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Speaker 1: Then