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Speaker 1: Me Around the NFL Podcast might return plunch this season.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the year Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas and I am

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Speaker 1: joined by room filled with hero Is, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Girls at All. What is up? Boys? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back from the weekend. I just landed back into

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Speaker 1: the state yesterday, flew in from Texas. Another week just

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Speaker 1: a weekend in Texas. Weekend in Texas, family reunion, my

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Speaker 1: wife's family. So as you can imagine, when you don't

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Speaker 1: see a lot of family on the other side and

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Speaker 1: then you fly out of state to visit them, they

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Speaker 1: don't know what to talk to you about, so you

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Speaker 1: just end up talking about your job. So they're talking

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Speaker 1: to me about football weekend. I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: football to talk about. Suddenly, It's like news is flowing right,

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Speaker 1: but they're not. They're all college people down there. They

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Speaker 1: don't really care. But they did, you know, they told millennials.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about no these are you know?

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Speaker 1: And um, you know. I learned that you had a

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Speaker 1: lot of Bryce Petty discussions. I learned about the Josh

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Speaker 1: Gordon drive through incident while he was a boiler when

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Speaker 1: he passed out at a drive through. That was cool,

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Speaker 1: and um, some sad stories about Vince Young who hasn't

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Speaker 1: done that, passed that at a drift who went to

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Speaker 1: ut of course, and it has a steakhouse that apparently

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Speaker 1: hangs around. Were you like delivering multiple hot takes because

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Speaker 1: you're like an NFL writer and they're just sitting around

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Speaker 1: as you're holding court. No, no, I barely existed there.

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of like part of the wallpaper,

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Speaker 1: occasionally dipped into the conversation. It was nice, though. How

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Speaker 1: was your weekend, Cessler? You know you had a little

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Speaker 1: me time, a little alone time, which is a rare

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Speaker 1: thing in a household where you normally two kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, every once in a while

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Speaker 1: John and I like Mark steering it away from what

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Speaker 1: was going on in his house when he alone, because

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Speaker 1: you know, there was something cooking. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I know you something was cooking at

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Speaker 1: leave it there. I'm just saying there's something cooking. Admit

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Speaker 1: there was something cooking. I don't even I would, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're referencing, but I will

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Speaker 1: go with it. By the way, Dash of Solitude. Uh

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Speaker 1: that was the name of Mark's first poetry collection. Uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and great? Do you have anything to share? But I

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Speaker 1: I don't know, nothing exciting? Played tennis? There we getting

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Speaker 1: soft friend exactly, local white place tennis. Greg shifts quietly

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Speaker 1: into eighth decade. Well, Dan, in fact, yes, I did

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Speaker 1: meet a girl over the weekend. You did? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for asking? Wait to say I didn't know you

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Speaker 1: met a girl? Well, alright, alright, he brought it up.

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Speaker 1: It your earl Campbell sister. I met her in Santa

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Speaker 1: Monica before we all went out on Saturday, hung out

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Speaker 1: with her for a little bit. Good times. You was

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Speaker 1: it a date? It was more like she texts me

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Speaker 1: that morning and said, why don't you stop buying my

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Speaker 1: And there will be where when later this week either

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Speaker 1: playing ping pong or going to dinner the exact location.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get some now cameras. There is she flood. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I believe she has flawed excellent but not broken beyond

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Speaker 1: repair and that that's an important distinction. So wow, pretty

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Speaker 1: active weekend, um all around. But now we're back in it.

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Speaker 1: We're back in the middle of training camp. Smack in

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Speaker 1: the middle of training camp. Very busy time. So we

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into. Um, you know who's who still

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Speaker 1: hasn't reported to camp? Now? Is there anyone left? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Before any of that, we check mine the glass TD

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Speaker 1: parts unknown not with us today, but we do have

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Speaker 1: the Irishman Brandon mcguineas. Yeah, patience is a virtue. Finally,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this as I survived the tropical Island.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else has gone right? Oh that's right. It called

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Speaker 1: back to our last show. Where is everyone else? Where

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Speaker 1: is Sully? Sull? He's not here? Tds off who knows? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Well it does? You piece it together? Brandon is here.

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Speaker 1: So the Irishman wins despite his pale complexion, which I

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Speaker 1: thought for a moment maybe you took you were offended by.

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Speaker 1: But you know the Irish, they don't have dark skin.

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news, buddy, got it right. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with some big Seahawks news. Two big signings that we

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Speaker 1: go down. First, Russell Wilson, the quarterback, signs a four

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Speaker 1: again at age thirty. Chit ching. Well, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: with a random point, which is that it's not really

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Speaker 1: the second best quarterback contract behind Aaron Rodger at all.

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Speaker 1: It's a five year deal where eighty nine million, which

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Speaker 1: to be a free agent again when he's thirty. I

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Speaker 1: like what Greg tweeted out and wrote in his what

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Speaker 1: We Learned on Friday, which was kind of a slapdown

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Speaker 1: all this money tied up with all these players, it's

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Speaker 1: What they won't be able to do is go out

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Speaker 1: and that's a that's a very fair point. But you

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Speaker 1: they're very well set up. They have the best nucleus

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned are all signed through seventeen, which is crazy,

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Speaker 1: Cliff April signed through two thousand seventeen. That is an

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Speaker 1: insane core. And it's not like, okay, now, they can

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Speaker 1: signed long term. If you look at Football Outsiders numbers,

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Speaker 1: which I trust a lot, in terms of their team numbers,

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Speaker 1: pretty wide open window and it's gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. Russell Wilson tweeted a classic Russell

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to get on field with the Fellas. Who

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Speaker 1: texted Check and it's like, Check, you straight up died

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Speaker 1: uh there's a funness you want. There's some part of

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Speaker 1: you wants to move back to New York. Wow, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Check's response was dream come true for everybody.

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Speaker 1: in on my girl though. The Seahawks also uh signed

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, or their linebacker, to a forty three million

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Speaker 1: And Greg, you wrote this post, this thing that jumped

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Speaker 1: number two player behind Earl Thomas in ranking irreplaceable Seahawks defenders.

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's gonna come get you, boy. I think when Wilson,

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Speaker 1: when Wagner rather is at his best, that he would

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Speaker 1: be harder to replace than Richard Sherman, just with their system,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna they may not keep him around.

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Speaker 1: That's all clarify. He's not into contract here, is he? Sorry? Yeah,

429
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Speaker 1: my fault. They're more more Wilkerson. But it is something

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Speaker 1: that could eventually affect Sheldon Richards money. Um, and I

431
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Speaker 1: think he will be back with I didn't gonna be

432
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Speaker 1: playing with the Jets this year. Why why not? Yeah?

433
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Speaker 1: I think this happened in late July, early August. By

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Speaker 1: November it will be an afterthought. Speaking of bone head

435
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Speaker 1: off the field moves, the Bills have suspended Aaron Chromer,

436
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Speaker 1: their offensive line coach, for the first six games of season.

437
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Speaker 1: Team announced Sunday. Of course, Chromer uh was arrested for

438
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Speaker 1: allegedly punching a teenage boy around near his house because

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Speaker 1: the some boys were fishing near his property and he

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Speaker 1: didn't want them on the chairs, so he ended up

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Speaker 1: getting into a scuffle and punching the boy. Allegedly, the

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Speaker 1: charges were dropped, but apparently enough went down that the

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Speaker 1: Bill said you gotta go away for six weeks. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Chromer suspended. Well, the charges were dropped, but a settlement

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Speaker 1: was reached between Chromer and and the family of the boy,

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Speaker 1: So we don't that's going to be confidential, but someone

447
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Speaker 1: got paid. I mean, Braig, when you were young, if

448
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Speaker 1: you ever branch out into a neighbor's yard and just

449
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Speaker 1: sit on their chairs and play around on their furniture,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I kept on myself, you know, I went

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Speaker 1: over the Nelson passed the street a little bit mess

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Speaker 1: with the neighbor's stuff. We were relatively well behaved, I think. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying we were like cool against setting that

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Speaker 1: the lawn on fire, but I'm you're just you know,

455
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Speaker 1: you're by the way. Aaron crom he was also the

456
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Speaker 1: snitch or the guy behind the scenes in Chicago, if

457
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Speaker 1: everyone remembers that talk badly about Jake Cutler and then

458
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Speaker 1: tearfully apologized to the quarterback j after it came out

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Speaker 1: in the media. So Aeron Cromer I kind of by

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Speaker 1: the way. A police report also said that he threatened

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Speaker 1: to kill the boys family if they went to the police.

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Speaker 1: So Eric Cromer a good team to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: build a bully. I mean, just just imagine I've been

464
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Speaker 1: honking about and the whole Richardson thing that. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the end of his career the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you have a modicum of talent that belongs in

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Speaker 1: the league. You're gonna get extra chances. And Aaron Cromer

468
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Speaker 1: is getting an extra chance. And you know who he's

469
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Speaker 1: gonna be coaching in week seven is Richie Incognito when

470
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Speaker 1: he comes back. I mean, that's that's a great combo,

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Speaker 1: the Cromer Incognito second chance to and and to speak

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Speaker 1: to Greg's point of talent connecting with getting a job

473
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Speaker 1: even if you're a jerk. Junior Galette has reached one

474
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Speaker 1: year deal with the Redskins, released after you know, less

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Speaker 1: than a week after his release from the Saints, he

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Speaker 1: joins the Redskins. Um. Of course, Gallette's career in New

477
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Speaker 1: Orleans went down in flames shortly after signing a big

478
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Speaker 1: extension last September. Uh. He ended up getting eighteen million

479
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Speaker 1: for ten months with the Saints, and now he's on

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Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Redskins. Greg, you'll get

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Speaker 1: into why it's a very interesting deal, but the the

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Speaker 1: quote that jumped out to me was Junior Collette, I'm

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Speaker 1: just thankful to be with such a functional organization Redskins.

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, West is shaking his head. They're quite possibly

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Speaker 1: the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL over the past

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Speaker 1: half decade. And I think Greg you know, tweeted the

487
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Speaker 1: other day, good tweet the Saints seemed dysfunctional if they're

488
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Speaker 1: handing this guy eight team million. The Redskins to me

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Speaker 1: seem even more dysfunctional for signing a head case like this.

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Speaker 1: See I don't agree that that. It's when you're the

491
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Speaker 1: Redskins and you've got nothing going on in your defense

492
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Speaker 1: was one of the worst last year. Then suddenly in

493
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Speaker 1: early August, late July, ah premier pass Rusher becomes available

494
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Speaker 1: and you're a new GM. I don't know. Yeah, they

495
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Speaker 1: didn't pay him much money. You got him for the

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Speaker 1: league minimum. Yeah, for the league minimum, and you can

497
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Speaker 1: just cut him anytime you feel like it if he

498
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Speaker 1: says something stupid. I mean, this is the major issues

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Speaker 1: with Ray Rice getting black baled, what happened with Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson all last year, these long suspensions, and then Junior

501
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Speaker 1: Glett is just allowed to come in and sign, and

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Speaker 1: people like Peter King are praising it as a great movie.

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Speaker 1: I agree from a football side, I'm a problem with signing.

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Speaker 1: There is there is something going on. Last year was

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Speaker 1: probably the worst time ever to do anything as a

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Speaker 1: player that got on the radar. They got caught in,

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Speaker 1: caught up in that, I believe, and it is uneven

508
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Speaker 1: with how what happened with Colette here, it's uneven. I

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Speaker 1: hear you on that, but I don't from a football side,

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Speaker 1: don't want problem taking a swing and a player that

511
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Speaker 1: has a lot of upside defensetoral muscle too. And they

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Speaker 1: get to match his contract next year, which you never

513
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Speaker 1: hear about. I don't know if I've ever heard of

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Speaker 1: that right to first refusal next year. So it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a very team friendly contract for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: But but I understand it, and I understand it. It's like,

517
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Speaker 1: do you really trust dre J. Gruden to handle another

518
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Speaker 1: personality because there's a lot of that. That's a team

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Speaker 1: that has a weird sort of mix. Well, it's honestly

520
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Speaker 1: gonna come down to not so much Jake Ruden than

521
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Speaker 1: his position coach and his defensive coordinator that's who spends

522
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Speaker 1: all the time with him, and they and they hopefully

523
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Speaker 1: those guys all had a chance to sign off on it.

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Speaker 1: But it's the point we just made with all these players.

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Speaker 1: The guy can play he's going to get into the chance.

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Speaker 1: There's no way he's gonna sit on his butt all offseason.

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Speaker 1: I understand making mistakes, we all do, but this guy

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Speaker 1: has shown like not even a modicum of remorse. The

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Speaker 1: reason I even even when he science he takes a

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Speaker 1: crack at this. Yeah, I mean, I think that's an

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Speaker 1: important part of the process. You have to go through

532
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Speaker 1: a humbling and a reevaluation of your life like other

533
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Speaker 1: players have had to do. This guy isn't being forced

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Speaker 1: to do. The difference mark what I was saying. When

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Speaker 1: I think it's a desperate move, it's like you're taking

536
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Speaker 1: a guy with talent and your team that hasn't won,

537
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Speaker 1: You've finished the last place, set out seven out of

538
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: eight years, and you know he's a cancer in a

539
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: locker room, and he's fresh off that locker room, and

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00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring him in. Yeah, you can get rid

541
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Speaker 1: of him quickly, but what's the damage the guy can do.

542
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Speaker 1: I just feel like a good like a good team.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers, the Giants, they would never bring in a

544
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Speaker 1: guy like this, but the Redskins, that's that's fair. I

545
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Speaker 1: just think that if you're Jake Gruden, you have to

546
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Speaker 1: go go into the season knowing that there's maybe only

547
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Speaker 1: one or two other coaches on is burning a hot

548
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: seat as you are, and you have a new GM

549
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: who might want to get rid of you in one year.

550
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Speaker 1: You're having issues with the owner over the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you can get someone in there, they can sack

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's the hardest position to find this time

553
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Speaker 1: of the year. Some coaches are gonna do it. Most

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Speaker 1: said no, moving on, Mark, speaking of the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: where are we speaking in the quarterbacks? It doesn't he

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Speaker 1: said the words quarters. Yeah, excellent transition. Thank you. So,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne bow who's your boy? Who's a star wide receiver

558
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: on your favorite team? The Cleveland had this to say

559
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: about Josh McCown. You're middling starter, uh quote, he's showing

560
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Speaker 1: all the potential of being a top five quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. BO said, and Mark, you wrote um heat

562
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Speaker 1: seeking missile on our site that began you're writing where

563
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: to begin? So Mark begin well? And the response he's

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Speaker 1: he's calling him a potential top five McCown is in

565
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: the bottom five of starters and he and he's not

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Speaker 1: even a starter in most teams eyes, So you know,

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00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: I guess you'd have to really look at even in

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Speaker 1: the a f C North, if you're an Andy Dalton fan,

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Speaker 1: he's not even in the top three in the a

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Speaker 1: f C North. Josh McCown, what does it say about

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith that he spends a few days in Brown's

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Speaker 1: camping already considering Josh McCown top five, Well, that there's

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Speaker 1: a thing. This is the same day that Dwayne Bow

574
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Speaker 1: also said that he's never seen a receiver, you know,

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Speaker 1: adapt to the position as fast as throughout prior. First

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00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: of all, how many talkers didn't do that. He also

577
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Speaker 1: said that the practice, I think it was the second

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Speaker 1: day of Brown's practice one of the best practices He's

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00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: been a part of in nine years right and is

580
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Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks and he's seen since Chilly. I like

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: Dwade Bow that at least he's positive. Listen. The one

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Speaker 1: thing that I when it comes to Josh McCown, though,

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00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I think what he's done. They they had issues last

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Speaker 1: year obviously with Manzel and Hoyer, and I think the

585
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Speaker 1: account has coming and just been a veteran that all

586
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Speaker 1: the players like, they like him. He's not a headcase,

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00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: he's a he's not a me first, dude, that's the

588
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: good part. Can he play? Come on? We have? I mean,

589
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: has he never never played six team games in one season.

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Speaker 1: I thought he went a little too far bow when

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Speaker 1: he said Brea was one of the top three vacation destiny.

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Speaker 1: He did not say in the entire world. Let's sum

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Speaker 1: up this article with Mark Sessler's conclusion, if nothing else,

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Speaker 1: his beautiful mind sees proud tomorrows for a team long

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Speaker 1: trapped in a dystopian hell escape. Well they have been.

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Speaker 1: It's been a hell escape. That was on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: I asked when I was writing this, I asked, West,

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Speaker 1: would you rather go into a season with a talented

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Speaker 1: team knowing that you can have for sixteen games no injury?

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton or Josh McCown And you struggle with the answer.

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Speaker 1: You had to think about it. I eventually conceded Dalton.

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Speaker 1: But I could see how if you want your quarterback

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Speaker 1: to not make mistakes in a big game, you might

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Speaker 1: lean towards anybody, but Dalton, you're also the biggest McCown

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Speaker 1: fan there is. Mark. I think I figured it out.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McCown just mrs being a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the a f C North. So we got

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Speaker 1: Big Bend Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, Terrell Prior put him ahead.

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Speaker 1: Mat job is a j McCarron, and then I'll slot

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Speaker 1: in I'll slot in Josh Josh McCown right at number six.

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Speaker 1: But then they already have a top five quarterback on

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Speaker 1: Andrey Jones. I would put ahead of Handentry Tunes. Come on, Greg,

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Speaker 1: come on the boss, um, that is what's happening. By

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Speaker 1: up Grantlin's, Jalen and Jacoby one, but TD still exists.

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Speaker 1: four has been a massive point of departure in Ted's career.

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Speaker 1: I can tell this weekend, just come back with a

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Speaker 1: lot of information. What's phil is there can only be

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Speaker 1: one champion and you did not win in fort with

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Speaker 1: but maybe next time, he said, he did. Uh. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I said did you confront anyone about this

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Speaker 1: about us? Not because I would have done that. Accosted

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Speaker 1: and said he was disappointed. But he met a guy

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Speaker 1: on the panel that did say he voted for us.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe that guy was lying though. Speaking of Texas,

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Speaker 1: my sad Vince young um story in Texas. He lives

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Speaker 1: in Austin. He has a steakhouse there and he eats

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Speaker 1: many meals at the steakhouse. Mm hmm. It's like a

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Speaker 1: late period of the story. I can't tell the whole Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of sad. I feel like you're leaving

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Speaker 1: something else. I'll tell you guys later. But Vince is

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Speaker 1: around and he's had a lot of hand chicks and

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Speaker 1: he's not in a rush to leave. If you meet him,

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Speaker 1: I think I think he has sometimes. Are you saying

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Speaker 1: he swallowed the skipper? No? What does that mean? Oh?

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Speaker 1: It's a line from Billy Madison where they're out on

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Speaker 1: the boat and he says he looked like he swallowed

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Speaker 1: the skipper. Gill again, did you swallow what? Like he's overweight? No?

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Speaker 1: He said he eats a lot of meals there. He

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Speaker 1: was just trying to have this last year. That's where

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Speaker 1: he gets a free meal. Okay, all right, moving on.

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Speaker 1: You know, you learn a lot about Texas football when

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Speaker 1: you go down to Texas. Not all of it's like

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Speaker 1: NFL headlines, but you learned about certain things. Who's this

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Speaker 1: girl West? What's her name? It's not far enough along

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Speaker 1: for me to be dropping names. Okay, she from California,

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Speaker 1: not originally her name is Shelly and with a hyphen

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Speaker 1: in between. Alright, arrow up, arrow down, that is the

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Speaker 1: segment um and like a sort of stock up stock down.

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Speaker 1: Dare you say it's a winners and losers? Would not

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Speaker 1: be judging winners and losers after a few days of

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Speaker 1: training camp, But that's just me. Okay, So this will

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Speaker 1: be our opportunity to each give one uh player or

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Speaker 1: team where you know things are looking good, the arrow

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Speaker 1: is up and you know, conversely, a player, team or

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Speaker 1: the arrow is pointing downward. And I look over to

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Speaker 1: the quiet storm who's organizing his papers. It looks like

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Speaker 1: he's ready to fire. Some might as well throw it

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Speaker 1: to him. Well you arrow up, Mark, we arrow up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go tell Prior. Now I'm not Wes. I'm

686
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: not calling him a lifelong winner of this training camp.

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Speaker 1: Or this season. But the early press is good because

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00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I think number one people thought, is he going to

689
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Speaker 1: be a malcontent and not take this so called quarterback

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Speaker 1: to receiver switch even seriously? Is he just trying to

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Speaker 1: hang on and maybe enough quarterbacks get injured? He gets

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Speaker 1: back into that conversation, but no, it sounds like from

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Speaker 1: his position coach basically said he's fast, he's huge, and

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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden said, it looks like it would work covering.

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Speaker 1: It looks like this could work and we'll find out.

696
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean that you got to go into games and

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Speaker 1: do it. But his position coach raved about him, and

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Speaker 1: he just said, the guy's talented talent wins ball games

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Speaker 1: in the in the Cleveland Browns team. Is he one

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Speaker 1: of the fifty three best players if you look at

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Speaker 1: the back end of that wide receiver group. I think

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Speaker 1: he has a chance because what was that talent wins

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Speaker 1: ball games? I'm looking at a sheet of paper with

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Speaker 1: some quotes on that. You find it damning or concerning

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Speaker 1: that Dwayne Bow who is you know, praising the janitor

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Speaker 1: at that Indian barrel ground that they called Brown's camp

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00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't say anything about yeahs uh. The most telling thing

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Speaker 1: about prior was that he's getting some snaps with the

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Speaker 1: first team. That just tells me that no, I really

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Speaker 1: mean he got before this turns into a chaotic nonsense

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Speaker 1: like he there were some players taking arrest and stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's why it wasn't he's our first team. I know that.

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Speaker 1: But even that the coaches are mixing them in with

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Speaker 1: the first teamers, that they that they take it seriously enough.

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Speaker 1: It's not just some clown show on the side. He's

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Speaker 1: six fo you know what, I get what you're saying, Mark,

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Speaker 1: the arrow is up for troll partet right now. He's

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Speaker 1: going in the right direction over three days of camp. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was being serious about the part that he's getting

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Speaker 1: into the mix with the first team. It does show

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Speaker 1: that I think they're taking it seriously as a guy

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Speaker 1: who can make the team, which I wouldn't have necessarily

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Speaker 1: thought right away. They don't have any arrows up. They

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Speaker 1: don't have anyone with that side speed come. That's why

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00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: it helps them, because I think they if we're going

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00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: to say they have the lamest group of wideouts in

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Speaker 1: the whole league, then he's landed on the right team.

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Speaker 1: This is why I sometimes I worries Mark still a

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Speaker 1: fan of the Browns. Just now, how upset Mark out?

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Speaker 1: There's no because you know what was you read cracking off?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even cracking off. You took it that way.

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Speaker 1: You're the one you weren't because burial ground when you

733
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Speaker 1: this is not unlike the Redskins when you root for

734
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: a bad team. This is the time of year where

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Speaker 1: you hope someone that no one was expecting when playing

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Speaker 1: meaningful snaps can do it and do it well. Yes, sorry,

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Speaker 1: let's move Arrow up, Arrow up, Chris Wesley. We were

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Speaker 1: laughing at Charles Johnson a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 1: Is that guy? What's going on? Charles Johnson? Did I

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Speaker 1: visit that he have his ascendants yet? All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, all right, Arrow up, Chris Wes. Gino Atkins, who,

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Speaker 1: at the end of last year his defensive core nader

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Speaker 1: Paul Gunther said he was just a guy in two

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Speaker 1: thousand four Cha wasn't the All Pro that he was

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve. I mean, we forget that this

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Speaker 1: guy was battling J. J. Watt for Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year in two thousand twitters they were the two

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Speaker 1: best defensive linemen in football. One of the coaches said

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Speaker 1: in the off season that it's scary, how scary, how good,

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Speaker 1: how explosive and fast Gino Atkins is playing, And then

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Speaker 1: in the first week of camp, the Bengals website said,

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Speaker 1: at this moment, this guy is the best player on

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Speaker 1: the field on either side of the ball. Kevin Zeitler,

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Speaker 1: one of the best guards in the league, has his

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Speaker 1: hands full just trying to block this guy. He looks

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Speaker 1: like to me, he's back and the Bengals need that

757
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Speaker 1: because as load as their offense is, they're only difference

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Speaker 1: makers on defense. Really, our Gino Atkins and Vontes perfect

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00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: and perfect is a question mark to open the season.

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Speaker 1: They were lasting sacks last year. This is one guy

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Speaker 1: that can generate sacks from the inside. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: what some of these dudes that are huge that it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take more than one year to get off an

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Speaker 1: injury like he had if you're smaller like and you're

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00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: not putting as much weight and stuff on body over

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Speaker 1: the course. But he was just a dude last season.

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Speaker 1: But it maybe now he's fully healthy. He's who he was.

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Speaker 1: When the coaches got on him, they weren't too tricky

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Speaker 1: about it. About his conditioning and everything like that, that

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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't work hard enough to to get back

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Speaker 1: from that injury. And when I look at the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: their defense, everyone for forgot when their defense, uh change

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators lost. I mean they got a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: They were significantly worse. And the only way they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get better is if guys like Johnson, and I mean

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Speaker 1: Atkins and Michael Johnson who's now back on the team

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Speaker 1: and is going to be out four weeks with the

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Speaker 1: spring m cl you know, suddenly improved because on paper

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Speaker 1: they don't look any better. Greg, you're a winner or

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Speaker 1: excuse up. My arrow going up is for Sammy Bradford.

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Speaker 1: It it was only a week ago, and we you know,

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Speaker 1: we're putting sandwiches on the line him versus uh Darren McFadden,

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Speaker 1: who's going to practice? We also you put a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna start week I got Wes and Cecila on

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Speaker 1: the hook right now. I'm feeling good. Who's gonna start

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Speaker 1: week one? Bradford or Mark Sanchez? And at least to

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Speaker 1: begin with he's fully healthy or at least not limited

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Speaker 1: to start camp. And Chip Kelly gave Bradford all of

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Speaker 1: the first team reps on Sunday. I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of a statement saying this isn't a competition. Bradford's a guy,

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Speaker 1: he's healthy right now. If it stays that way, he'll

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Speaker 1: be the guy week one. I think it says a

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Speaker 1: lot about Chip Kelly that even though over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again he's stated that he wants Bradford to

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Speaker 1: be his guy this season, that no one even believes

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Speaker 1: him that it's even until we finally see him take

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Speaker 1: every single rap there like, oh, maybe Kelly's not just

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Speaker 1: gonna send him, send him away for a box of

799
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Speaker 1: can tomatoes two days. If if he had his way,

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Speaker 1: if the draft shook shook out differently, Marcus Mariota would

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Speaker 1: probably be his quarterback no matter what he says. I

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Speaker 1: would believe him if he didn't come straight out and say, look,

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Speaker 1: this is a quarterback competition, which is weird to say.

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Speaker 1: He said this in the off season. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate competition, and a legitimate competition isn't giving all the

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Speaker 1: first team reps to one guy. And supposedly Bradford didn't

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Speaker 1: look great in his first practice or two, so that'll

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00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: be something to to watch. You wouldn't necessarily expect him

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Speaker 1: to be greatest first team drills in over a year,

810
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Speaker 1: but he's he's setting up that this is really Bradford's

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Speaker 1: to lose, that things are going to have to go

812
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Speaker 1: terribly for him this month to lose it. A winner

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Speaker 1: for me is the Giants wide receiver combo of Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. And Victor Cruz. Beckham is and Cruise both

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Speaker 1: not on the pu P list. They're practicing to start

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Speaker 1: training camp. Beckham this is important because he had the

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Speaker 1: hamstring issues again crop up uh during the offseason practices,

818
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Speaker 1: but it looks like he'll be okay. And Victor Cruz

819
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Speaker 1: having that serious knee injury, he's coming back from reports

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Speaker 1: that he's looking good. So think about it. If Cruises

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Speaker 1: cruise again and Beckham is what we all know he is,

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Speaker 1: which is amazing. That is easily west when you write

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Speaker 1: your top your tandem wide receivers column what you did

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Speaker 1: last year, if you did it again this year, if

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Speaker 1: those guys are at full health, there's very few tandems

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Speaker 1: that would be better than those two. Right, that's a

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Speaker 1: good possibility. I guess With Victor Cruz, I'll believe it

828
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Speaker 1: when I see it. I mean, i'd a torn proteller tending.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna be able to cut

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Speaker 1: and explode like he did before that, So I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm a skeptic when it comes to him. The other guy,

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Speaker 1: like Ruben Randall, played well down the stretch too. I

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Speaker 1: mean they have they have more than just two guys.

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Speaker 1: I think that offense is god Son James Jones too, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got some. I don't even know if he'll make

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Speaker 1: a team. Yeah, he's a roster bubble Cruise supposedly looks solid.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a great sign. He's out there in

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Speaker 1: the field sometimes avoiding the publist. You know, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: But we talked about Girly for instance, last week, and

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Speaker 1: he avoided the publist. But he's still only doing individual drills.

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Speaker 1: They're still you know, working him along pretty slow. He's

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Speaker 1: not fully healthy at all. So yeah, I agree with West.

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Speaker 1: I'll kind of believe it when I see it. With Cruz. Alright,

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Speaker 1: guys a skeptics say I didn't. I'm not taking it

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Speaker 1: personally though, Mark, Well, you're not talking about the Jets,

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the other New Year I will be

847
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Speaker 1: getting to the jets Z. But in Europe a former

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Speaker 1: Brown's player is and you're arrowed down. Well it has

849
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, it's funny how that works. There's

850
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: no way that you can well, no, it's Trent Richardson.

851
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: This is the guy that I have a sandwich wager

852
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: with Dan On. We've mentioned this where if he plays

853
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: one more snap, ever, Dan gives me a sandwich. So

854
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: I thought at some point he's only twenty four years old,

855
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna play another snap. Now now I'm wondering because

856
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: the report out of Oakland is that from NFL media

857
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: insider Ian Rappaport, a fifty chance to make the team.

858
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: The guy is on the NFI list. He showed up,

859
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: he didn't show up fat, but he They wanted him

860
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: down to two twenty and he did not make He

861
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: did not reach his goal in the offseason. This is

862
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: a guy with a three point three yards periory car

863
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: career average. I don't know. They've got Michael Dyer there

864
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: who's jumped out of camp, they said, And they've got Michael.

865
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: You could go to all the other podcasts in the

866
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: world on the site wherever you're not fighting Michael Dyer.

867
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: He anywhere else that's coming to you straight. Michael Dyer

868
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: was the starter or played with the Cam Newton's Auburn

869
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: national champion ship team then his career in college. Do

870
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: you see now? I have always been so confident about

871
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: this because I always thought true talent or true lack

872
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: of talent would win out. He doesn't have the talent

873
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: nor the drive. Well, one thing that I take on this,

874
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: I am going to compliment the Raiders. One of them

875
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: why Trent Richardson was terrible with the Colts was because

876
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: he could never get to his ideal playing weight. The

877
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Raiders are saying, you can't take the field until you

878
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: get to what we see as your ideal playing weight,

879
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: which is probably fifteen pounds lighter than he was in Cleveland.

880
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: And I've seen reports from guys who saw Trent richards

881
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: said he's in great shape right now. It's just not

882
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: quite to where the Raiders won him. Even the coaches

883
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: said that too, that he is, that he came in close.

884
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: They weren't. They weren't killing the guy. Yeah, that's great,

885
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: But Litavius Murray is their starter. Halloo is a great

886
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: third down back. And then suddenly you're number three back

887
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: who doesn't play special teams. You gotta try to make

888
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: the team. So he's got an uphill battle. Let's not

889
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: act like lid Tavias Murray is Adrian Peterson here. Hey,

890
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: let's not like I'm a lot. You're suddenly acting like,

891
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, Reggie mackenzie, you boy and Jack del Rio

892
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: are like, you know, geniuses for having because you could

893
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: also you could also if he is actually in good condition,

894
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: it's just they they're getting caught up in the semantic.

895
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Then it's like that's not necessarily good decision. Either let

896
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: him on the field, let him play if he's actually

897
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: in good shape. No, I think you need the carrot

898
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: and the stick with Trent. This guy out of football.

899
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: You're right though, when he left the Browns, there were

900
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: not too many people crying about it because of what

901
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes. I think the Colts

902
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: found the same thing. He had a suspension to end

903
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: last year, right, and now the Raiders, who, yeah, they're

904
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: one of those teams that can't turn a lot of

905
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: players away, but they will turn him away. And I've

906
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: agreed to give Dana sandwich in week four if he

907
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: takes no snaps. But if he does, even three years

908
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: from now, play again, you owe me two sandwiches. Uh,

909
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: you know what, that's fine with me. I'm on the

910
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: sandwich comeback trail. West, Give me an arrow downer. I

911
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: don't have any arrow downers because I don't believe there

912
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: can be losers after a few days of training. Give

913
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: us another winner and give us who has a stock

914
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: up Marcus. Wa wait, wait, wait a second. We're not

915
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna let that pass. This is the second time in

916
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: two shows. West, you're undercutting one of our segments. There's

917
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: nobody you've been a little bit oh that's interesting about

918
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: or you've you've thought maybe there's some reason to be

919
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: alarmed about anything in the NFL. Right now? Stock down?

920
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I would say, maybe Junior go letting the Redskins, but

921
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: we already talked about that. Well, this this, I know

922
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: who you're gonna say for your stock up. It kind

923
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: of goes along with another guy being stocked down. But

924
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, Wait, are you're gonna say Martevis Brian is

925
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: stock down? Well he might. He might struggle to get

926
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: as many snaps as some fantasy owners are help they're

927
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: looking for. Well, yeah, Ben Roethlisberger came out this weekend

928
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: and said that Marcus Wheaton he thinks will be the

929
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: Steelers breakout player of the year. And you know what,

930
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: that could be just him kind of trying to light

931
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: a fire under a guy who's an important player for them.

932
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: But he also talked about Wheaton will be in two

933
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver sets alongside Antonio Brown and then moving to

934
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: the slot in three wide sets. So the takeaway to

935
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: me is he's playing more snaps than Martavis Bryant, and

936
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant had a minor surgery. Ben Roethlisberger talking up Wheaton,

937
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're drafting Martavis Bryant in the sixth

938
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: round of fantasy drafts, that would that would be a

939
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: little bit of a stock down. Well that's where some

940
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: people are doing it too. Is his name shot through

941
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: the roof. NFL Media's Albert Brier in one of his

942
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: stories last week, reported before Big Ben made these comments

943
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: that the coach has told him that Wheaton had the

944
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: best off season of older wide receivers and is a

945
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: good He does make fancy red zone catches like he

946
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: makes tough catches. He hasn't stood out a time making

947
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: the leap List last summer. Yeah, don't mean one week early,

948
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: one year too early. That's our thing. That happens, Greg

949
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: arrow down, why not? Stephen Hill is not exactly big

950
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: time player in the NFL right now, but his week

951
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: was so bad that it was notable. I felt like

952
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: it had to be noted. On Wednesday, he was cited

953
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: for a drug paraphernalia charge after a routine traffic stop.

954
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: I think, what did he have with him? You guys,

955
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: do you guys remember he had? I think two grinders? Yeah,

956
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: he had some much drug paraphernally allows you to end

957
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: Brandon again is behind the glass told me about this.

958
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: It allows you to take marijuana buds and crush them

959
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: in a in a way that you can then put

960
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: them into some type of you know, whether it be

961
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: a bowl or a joint or a cigar. Ye, Penn,

962
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: who knows a lot of different things you can do

963
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: with drugs, and I wouldn't say do any of them.

964
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: So on Wednesday that happens. Brenda did not tell me that,

965
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: By the way, that was a joke. This is all

966
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: hands is homegrown information. That's just information, you know, totally.

967
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: Brandon definitely looks like a guy who has the inside

968
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: scoop on this. Oh yeah, totally. I mean, as you

969
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: can see, he was so believable with saying that Brendon's

970
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: on his way to the Grateful Dead Fish reunion show.

971
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Sully maybe. Uh so that happens to the Hill on Wednesday.

972
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: On Saturday, he unfortunately tears his a c L at

973
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: Panthers camp and then on Sunday he gets released by

974
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: the team. It's a brutal It's a brutal week and

975
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: for a guy who, for what it's worth, people were

976
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: talking ab up as as having a great offseason, that

977
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: he was gonna make the team and everything, and it

978
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: just shows like how fast your fortunes can change in

979
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. And that's a good segue to my arrow

980
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: down because Stephen Hill greg was a former second round

981
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: pick of the Jets. The jets second round picked this

982
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: year is Devin Smith, a wide receiver and uh he

983
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: he has some busted ribs that he hurt and practice

984
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: that they're making a really nice catch. He's expected to

985
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: miss the rest of training camp and that's just, you know,

986
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: not a good start for the Jets. That camp. Not

987
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: only have Devin Smith, who was supposed to be a

988
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: big part of their offense, who is now going to

989
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: be way behind the ball with this rib injury you have,

990
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: of course, as we talked about Sheldon Richardson, and that's

991
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: a major, uh you know issue hanging over camp now

992
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: that you don't like. And then more minor but something

993
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: to watch Mo Wilkerson uh tweaked his hamstring and practice

994
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: so he couldn't miss a little bit of time. So

995
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: you put those three together. I'm not thrilled. But the

996
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Devin Smith thing, especially to me, is bad because I

997
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: think they have big designs on him. And you take

998
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: a rookie and take him out of his first training camp. Uh,

999
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: that could mean a situation where you look back in

1000
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: January and you're like, oh, why didn't Devin Smith work?

1001
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: And they could just point to that he never got

1002
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: on tracked. Dan. I want to check your P level

1003
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Week one, Brown's Jets in New York. Where are you? Uh?

1004
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I would be very confident the Jets defense will find

1005
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: a way to stop the iconic top five quarterback Josh McCown.

1006
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: On my P scale level is at one and a half. Wow.

1007
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: Mine is much higher because I've already noted I've told

1008
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: Dan the Jets will win that game four. Well, no,

1009
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: I like the angle you're taking, but your tyrrell prior

1010
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: meltdown before betrays the fact that you're still very optimistic

1011
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: about this team. I think that could be very closet.

1012
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I just don't like them being treated as a sub

1013
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: NFL team. That there's thirty one NFL teams and then

1014
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: there's the Browns, and that's how we treat That's fair

1015
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Jets arrow up. Whoa look at Devin Smith. I mean,

1016
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: this guy was gonna be their fourth receiver a couple

1017
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: of years ago. He would have been the best player

1018
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: on their offense. Okay, I like that, but he's Dan's

1019
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: right that rookies that miss training camp a lot of

1020
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: times they never really recover from that. Now, if you're

1021
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: like Beckham, it doesn't matter. But like Kevin White, for instance,

1022
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: has not practiced in Chicago. It sounds like he might

1023
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: not for another week or more. And like sometimes it's

1024
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: tough to catch up on. Where were Devin Smith's snaps

1025
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: going to come from as a rookie. I think they

1026
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: were going to use them as a guy that they

1027
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: would send deep. I think he was gonna have a

1028
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: role in that offense. Yeah, but probably like ten snaps

1029
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: a game. Maybe. Oh come on, no, I would have

1030
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: thought more if all went well. Decker Marshall and then

1031
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Jeremy Curley is a good slot I don't. I don't

1032
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: see Devin Smith coming in and playing big snaps even

1033
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: if he was. I think there was buzz that Jeremy

1034
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: Curly could see a decrease in time if they fell

1035
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: in love with Devin Smith. Well, there's still time for

1036
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: this to happen later, for sure. It's not the end

1037
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: of Jeff season is over. By the additional Jeremy Curley,

1038
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: their best receiver for the past three or four years

1039
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: is now like an afterthought. That's good. That's the additional winner.

1040
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Arrow up. Philip Rivers prolific private parts whoa. Phil and

1041
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: his wife Tiffany are expecting their sixth daughter, which will

1042
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: bring the total count to eight children. This from gil

1043
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: Brandt's a lot of kids. That's major news for gil

1044
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: brand to be breaking that he broke the news. I

1045
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: think he did break the news. I even know something.

1046
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like nine one years old, Philip Rivers

1047
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: one day and have like two hundred and forty eight

1048
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: grandchildren sitting around him. I think it's gonna pay off

1049
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: big time. We had seven kids in my family, only

1050
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: four grand kids. I think, well, I can't that. I

1051
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: want to bring more kids in madness of a world

1052
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: healthy just like you Westling, a healthy, robust Catholic family.

1053
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers raising um. Also his wife named Tiffany. If

1054
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: you were born between nineteen eighty and nine nine and

1055
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: your name was Tiffany, you were an attractive person. You're attractive,

1056
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: that's true. One unattractive Tiffany because nobody gets named Tiffany

1057
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: anymore or not really. But in the eighties it was

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Speaker 1: the rage, and every one of those women grew up

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Speaker 1: to be attractive. That's a fair point. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure you're putting on your daughter. But I guess

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Speaker 1: they all call it's almost like there's something that it

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Speaker 1: clicks inside. It's well, she's the real star of the household.

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Speaker 1: I mean, eight kids. Oh God, bless her. That's what

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Speaker 1: a woman never mat her. But that's both of them,

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Speaker 1: you know, great role models. I wonder he wants a

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Speaker 1: bigger contract. It's a lot of bounds to feed, you know,

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Speaker 1: handsome hank uh, you know, Damnascheks cohort has three kids,

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Speaker 1: and when I go over a sidekick. That's one way

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Speaker 1: to put it. When I when I go over to

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Speaker 1: his house, it's, you know, a war zone. There's just

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Speaker 1: a little two in my backyard. Half the time looks like,

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Speaker 1: you know, at a low level six Detroit scenario. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's like, couldn't there's like six hundred toys and hammers

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Speaker 1: and scissors and newspaper flowing crossing my yard. No, not

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Speaker 1: that I know. If I'm not there enough, I guess,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's any any others you want to throw out,

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Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. We got to barrow down

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Speaker 1: t d oh after an MVP years. No, No, I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, you know, we we win or lose a podcast,

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Speaker 1: we have to we Greg guess to text four days

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Speaker 1: later to find out. I mean, how about keep us updated?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of m v P, I won't reveal the poles

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Speaker 1: are still open until t d returns, which is when

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Speaker 1: Brandon Thursday. But it's only training camp. A lot of

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Speaker 1: movement in those polls over the last few days. The

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Speaker 1: poles are moving, the poles are open. Will the m

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Speaker 1: v P segment continue? So? Um, you could you could

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Speaker 1: find it on our Around the NFL page the link

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Speaker 1: to get to it. What Mark was doing all weekend?

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Speaker 1: Where are we now? I voted once you know what.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather not get into it. I will say that

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Speaker 1: it was very close after about twenty four hours and

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Speaker 1: then the last subsequent seventy two hours. One side of

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Speaker 1: this is surged ahead. So if you feel strongly one

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Speaker 1: way or the other, it's time to vote if you

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Speaker 1: want to save or get rid of TV's baby. And

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Speaker 1: that's it for the Around the NFL podcast. Uh, We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday with another show, The Four of Us. Mark.

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Speaker 1: I know you're leaving soon, right, I will be here?

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Speaker 1: Oh you will? Good? All right? So get ready? More shows?

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Speaker 1: Is Dan Hanson signing off for The Sizzler, The Mailman,

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Speaker 1: The Boss and Brandon by the Fluid