Speaker 1: You know, if we're looking at it right now, I
Speaker 1: got Embiid as my MVP. I don't get a vote
Speaker 1: because I guess I get in too much trouble outside
Speaker 1: the studio still, but I would make Mbid, you know,
Speaker 1: my MVP. Welcome into What's Burning here with Matt Barnes,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins, and Bookie. Matt was saying before we started,
Speaker 1: this is our first official What's Burning travel show because
Speaker 1: you're in your car. But he got kicked out the house.
Speaker 1: That's his bedroom right now. You would never know if
Speaker 1: it happened, You would never know. Guys, we gotta talk
Speaker 1: about the Western Conference in the NBA because it is
Speaker 1: completely out of control right now. Every day I look
Speaker 1: at the standings, I feel like it's a game of
Speaker 1: fifty two pick up. Everyone keeps waiting for the Warriors
Speaker 1: and Lakers. Meanwhile, the Pelicans have won five straight. The
Speaker 1: Timberwolves are in there now, they've won four straight. They're
Speaker 1: in the number six spot as we sit here and
Speaker 1: record today. But by the time anyone listens to this podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that will have changed drastically. There's only six
Speaker 1: or seven games to go. Matt. When you look at
Speaker 1: the standings right now. Which teams do you think are
Speaker 1: actually getting in and which teams are going to be
Speaker 1: in the play in which teams are going to be out?
Speaker 1: For you? I think the Uh, I think my my
Speaker 1: final two teams. I think my seven and eight spots
Speaker 1: slots are gonna go to. Um, who's gonna be in six?
Speaker 1: The other question, Yeah, that's so I'm looking at right
Speaker 1: now because Minnesota's playing well, it just got cat back.
Speaker 1: They just you know, put it down on sack last night. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's really up in the air. I feel like the
Speaker 1: first three seeds are locked. I feel like Phoenix will
Speaker 1: get that fourth spot because Katie and a and are
Speaker 1: coming back. Plus the Clippers are missing Paul George. So
Speaker 1: I feel like five through ten our question. But I
Speaker 1: don't think the Clippers will slide too much. Um. I
Speaker 1: think the Lakers will come in at eight, Okay, And
Speaker 1: I think, uh, damn, I'm just put Golden State to seven,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be tough for the for the one,
Speaker 1: two and three seed. To be honest with you, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. Boogie. Do
Speaker 1: you think that the Timberwolves here who by the way,
Speaker 1: have one of the easier strength of schedules of all
Speaker 1: of these teams. Um, do you think that the Wolves
Speaker 1: can stay where they are now? They've been out of
Speaker 1: the playoff picture for a while, and then obviously with
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Town's coming back and made this great search. Um,
Speaker 1: I think they can searche you know, with this this
Speaker 1: lay round at the end. UM, I think it's great
Speaker 1: timing for them to get Cat back. UM. I can
Speaker 1: definitely see them making a big push towards the end
Speaker 1: and also having a schedule that they have and it
Speaker 1: makes the road a little bit easier. So, UM, I
Speaker 1: can I can agree with Matt on the Timberwolves sliding in. Um.
Speaker 1: As far as the Lakers go, I I think they'll.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be in the play in I think,
Speaker 1: you know, they can obviously win that game. Men get
Speaker 1: to a playoff series with you know, in one of
Speaker 1: the top three, that's just a dangerous team to you know,
Speaker 1: to hint in the first round with against anybody. So
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers can find some late success only
Speaker 1: if they remain healthy. And the Clippers, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the Clippers, man, they've been so inconsistent all year and
Speaker 1: to add pg's injury at this time of year. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not confident and prim in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I just don't see it happening. What Rache?
Speaker 1: What is What is the Clippers strength of schedule remaining?
Speaker 1: Where are they are in the total? I think they're
Speaker 1: right in the middle, pardition. Neate's gonna look it up
Speaker 1: for us right now? What I don't get about that?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Oh? Go ahead, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: can you imagine whether, just hypothetically, if it's the Lakers eight,
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors seven, and the Clippers six. I mean,
Speaker 1: arguably we could see the one, two, and three seed
Speaker 1: all three of them fall. We'd see two of them fall,
Speaker 1: we could see one of them fall. We could see
Speaker 1: none of them fall. So I mean to think that
Speaker 1: the Warriors and Clippers were the Western favorites coming into
Speaker 1: this season. They're at the bottom, but they could still
Speaker 1: be a first round upset and get hot and run
Speaker 1: to the finals. I mean to me, the bottom of
Speaker 1: the West is more scary this year. If it settles
Speaker 1: that way, then I feel like I can remember it.
Speaker 1: It's hard though, because I keep waiting at The Warriors
Speaker 1: are a great example. They should be and look they
Speaker 1: don't have Andrew Wiggins, but they should be getting into
Speaker 1: that playoff forum. We kept saying, oh, the last twenty games,
Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. Well, they lost to Minnesota the
Speaker 1: other night in a last second game where they should
Speaker 1: have won. I mean, there's been times where we look
Speaker 1: at these teams, quote at the bottom of the standings,
Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Lakers, the Warriors. In some cases they're
Speaker 1: there for a reason, and I do wonder if we
Speaker 1: of them too much, sort of benefit of you know,
Speaker 1: the shiny pieces that they have. You look back forty
Speaker 1: five to the last forty six NBA champions have been
Speaker 1: top three seeds. That being said, I'm not sure we've
Speaker 1: ever had a season like this. I don't remember a
Speaker 1: season where the Western Conference, where any conference standings were
Speaker 1: this volatile, this late in the game, with so many positions.
Speaker 1: As you said, Matt for really, five through ten through
Speaker 1: twelve up for grabs. Nate's got his stat here with you.
Speaker 1: What what do you got? Oh, six started hardest, more
Speaker 1: hard than I thought. All right, So bogies Boogie's a
Speaker 1: posit here has some weight. They have the six hardest
Speaker 1: schedule books, so maybe they're the team that drops out,
Speaker 1: although they did win Monday night, so it's very hard
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on there. And when you
Speaker 1: talk about the Lakers, Matt Lebron says he didn't even
Speaker 1: want to be in the plan. He said, to hell
Speaker 1: with the play and he said, we can actually be
Speaker 1: a top six seed. That change part of my mindset
Speaker 1: on me coming back and trying to be a part
Speaker 1: of this. I mean, where are they. We've been waiting
Speaker 1: on it. Shit, we've been waiting on it. You've been
Speaker 1: waiting to see that. We've been waiting to see. We
Speaker 1: feel it, but we've been waiting to see it. So
Speaker 1: I mean, the hell with it is the right idea,
Speaker 1: but the player might end up saving them and giving
Speaker 1: them an opportunity to really, you know, stretch their wings
Speaker 1: out and be healthy for the first time as a
Speaker 1: committee all season, have you guys seen do you remember
Speaker 1: a time like this where it was this crazy down
Speaker 1: the stretch? No, well, you got to think the Warriors
Speaker 1: have been I mean, you know, there's been clear cut
Speaker 1: favorites for the last half of years. I can't even
Speaker 1: remember how long like to me, and I'd say, there's
Speaker 1: all due respect to Denver, you know, the bubble Western
Speaker 1: Conference run. To me, it doesn't prove nothing in this
Speaker 1: regular you know kind of circumstances. We're Indy and you
Speaker 1: look at Memphis, they're young in experience. You look at Sacramento,
Speaker 1: they're young going in experience. So to me, the top
Speaker 1: three seeds have obviously they're there for a reason. They
Speaker 1: earned it. They played well this season. But you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about Golden State, we talk about the Lakers,
Speaker 1: we talk about the you know, the Clippers. Those are
Speaker 1: all teams with veteran experience, guys that have won championships. Guy,
Speaker 1: is that know if any team can turn it on,
Speaker 1: it's teams like that that can turn I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they're going to but you give those kind of teams
Speaker 1: to benefit of the doubt because they have players that
Speaker 1: have done it before. I mean, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: see any of them. I know that. Who are you
Speaker 1: guys most scared of in that conference? They were talking about?
Speaker 1: Who are you looking at? Book? You're talking about to be?
Speaker 1: I mean, Clippers, Lakers and Wards. I mean all right,
Speaker 1: so is it is it the Warriors for you? Defending champs.
Speaker 1: Is it someone else? I think you throw Phoenix in
Speaker 1: there too. You know. The word is Katie is coming
Speaker 1: back this week. They get Aiden back, and Katie is
Speaker 1: one of those special superstars where you can just throw anywhere.
Speaker 1: You saw they were three oh before he got hurt. Um,
Speaker 1: So Phoenix is someone that I want to watch out for.
Speaker 1: I think Chris knows his you know, his time is
Speaker 1: coming up. Book is playing at a you know, an
Speaker 1: all NBA level. Uh. And you know what Katie does.
Speaker 1: And I can see Katie kind of playing like the
Speaker 1: wingman until it gets real, like how just how he
Speaker 1: did with Staff. He played the wing man until it
Speaker 1: got real and then he look over and got finals MVP.
Speaker 1: So um to me my team, I'm watching the liner right.
Speaker 1: So they're the team you most wouldn't want to wake
Speaker 1: up and see. Yes, and what about you, boogie? Oh?
Speaker 1: I can agree with matt Um. I think I think
Speaker 1: this is the first playoff run in recent years that
Speaker 1: will see a fully healthy Chris Paul as well. It's
Speaker 1: not as much pressure, not as much of a workload.
Speaker 1: We're having Kevin Durant for that team. Famis is a
Speaker 1: very very dangerous team. I can agree with Matt with
Speaker 1: that for sure. It's gonna be so interesting. Normally I
Speaker 1: would give all kinds of, you know, credence to chemistry
Speaker 1: and you can't just throw guys in there. But with
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, I kind of feel like all the rules
Speaker 1: are off. He is the guy that you can throw
Speaker 1: in there. You can put him in any system and
Speaker 1: it's gonna work absolutely, And just personality wise too. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not coming in there and demanding that he'd be
Speaker 1: a star, or that he'd be treat differently or any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I just think all the rules about, hey,
Speaker 1: you need a whole season to play together, they go
Speaker 1: out the window with Kevin Durant. So we will see
Speaker 1: if health gets to be a factor there, but that
Speaker 1: that's really the biggest question with them. Speaking of guys
Speaker 1: that got thrown together and the chemistry has not picked
Speaker 1: up so far. Is the Dallas Mavericks. They finally ended
Speaker 1: a four game slide Monday night when they beat the Pacers,
Speaker 1: but gosh, it has been a rough week. Luca has
Speaker 1: been talking about how unhappy and frustrated he is. He's
Speaker 1: hinted at having some issues off the court. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Hornets twice, including they were favored. I think
Speaker 1: by sixteen it was considered the biggest loss, of the
Speaker 1: biggest upset, rather of the entire season. Numbers wise, it
Speaker 1: just has not been good there. And by the way,
Speaker 1: since the Kyrie trade, they're eight and thirteen, only four
Speaker 1: wins when Luca and Kyrie are in the lineup together. Matt,
Speaker 1: what is How would you describe what you're seeing here?
Speaker 1: I think it I think it's it's still early to
Speaker 1: kind of right off this duo, because you know, what
Speaker 1: is a eight thirteen They've only played twenty one games together,
Speaker 1: if my master serves me correctly. But I think they unpopular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was all right that since he's gone team, but
Speaker 1: this may be an unpopular decision. But I just look
Speaker 1: at Kyrie's track record, and as great as an individual
Speaker 1: talent he is, he had problems with Lebron and he
Speaker 1: wanted to move on and be a leader. He goes
Speaker 1: to Boston, he doesn't get along with the two young stars,
Speaker 1: he moves, he goes to Brooklyn, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this later in the show. Arguably the biggest what if
Speaker 1: in the history with him, k D and James Harden.
Speaker 1: Now he's in Dallas with Luca, who is the future
Speaker 1: of this league. Into a coincidence that every time he
Speaker 1: goes to a team there's dysfunction. I mean, Lucas had
Speaker 1: to carry the load for the last but three four
Speaker 1: years all by hisself, and we've never heard him speak
Speaker 1: about unhappiness. Obviously there could be some way, you know,
Speaker 1: you hear stuff with his mom, and we don't want
Speaker 1: to speculate with what's going on with that, but it
Speaker 1: just seems like everywhere Kyrie goes there is an issue.
Speaker 1: Now that can be that could be a coincidence, or
Speaker 1: it could be that Kyrie is the issue as again
Speaker 1: as a greater talent. He is a top five talent,
Speaker 1: no doubt, but just seems like every time he makes
Speaker 1: a pit stop, shit gets fucked up. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's the case here. We're speculating because we're
Speaker 1: not in that locker room or from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to draw that kind of conclusion. What
Speaker 1: do you think when you see them, bug, I think
Speaker 1: it's a similar a similar situation to kind of what
Speaker 1: I went through when I got traded from Sacramento mid season.
Speaker 1: We ended up going. I ended up going to New
Speaker 1: Orleans and linking up with a d and we struggled.
Speaker 1: That's second half, closing part of the season, because obviously
Speaker 1: it was a mid season trade. Me and him were
Speaker 1: still finding chemistry. The guys that were traded away in
Speaker 1: order to acquire me then kind of threw off the
Speaker 1: whole balance of the team. So you're kind of finishing
Speaker 1: out of season to you know, basically, I have roster,
Speaker 1: you don't have the necessary pieces to compliment your two
Speaker 1: stars to keep the whole floor in karate of the
Speaker 1: team moving forward. So in my opinion, that play is
Speaker 1: a big part in you know, mid season trades, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, you get Kevin Durant win and things
Speaker 1: can you know, flow seams, But that's just not the
Speaker 1: case with these two type of players. So I still
Speaker 1: think they deserve more time. I'll be more ready to
Speaker 1: judge this team next season when pieces that compliment them
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, and then we can kind
Speaker 1: of make a judgment. But as of right now, this
Speaker 1: is just a mid season trade. They have their two
Speaker 1: building blocks, so we'll see what they do with these
Speaker 1: next couple of seasons. If it even happens but boogie,
Speaker 1: do you But I was about to say, is there
Speaker 1: a guarantee that Kyrie stays? Is there a guarantee that
Speaker 1: that that that Cuban pays him to keep him? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because I think they wanted to
Speaker 1: sample and I could read one thousand percent because I
Speaker 1: feel like you guys definitely hit you Stride the next
Speaker 1: season and then obviously you know the injury derail with
Speaker 1: you and a d could have did um. But I
Speaker 1: think this is going to be a sample size. And
Speaker 1: if you're Mark Cuban and you don't even make the
Speaker 1: playoffs or you get bumped into play in, I agree
Speaker 1: with you because it took a lot of pieces to
Speaker 1: get Kyrie. Are you going to commit to Kyrie and
Speaker 1: and give him the money that he you know, deserves
Speaker 1: as a player individually? Uh? To me, that is a
Speaker 1: huge question. I'm not sure what the market for Kyrie
Speaker 1: is going to be this summer. Me neither you know
Speaker 1: what the market to be. But I definitely believe Cuban though,
Speaker 1: or make a better decision. He's than in this situation
Speaker 1: before as well, when he made that Trey for Rondo.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think I think Mark's a
Speaker 1: pretty good businessman, and I don't think he'll make the
Speaker 1: same mistake twice. So if anything, he's gonna try to
Speaker 1: make this due or work to the bust of his ability.
Speaker 1: I agree, it's too early to really judge it. I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like they have defense thoughe Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: at least when when you and you know, if you
Speaker 1: talk about Unad situation, Ad was a defensive anchor. You
Speaker 1: can move a little bit, But neither of these guys
Speaker 1: even want to play the defense, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And those are those are the two stars, so that
Speaker 1: that's my whole thing. So I think, you know, Cuban
Speaker 1: has a track record of making solid decisions, but this
Speaker 1: is a situation I wouldn't want to have to decide on.
Speaker 1: It's just tough. I think it depends partly on what
Speaker 1: other teams are willing to offer Kyrie, because if you
Speaker 1: give Kyrie too much, obviously, that eats up money that
Speaker 1: you could be spending on the rest of your roster.
Speaker 1: They absolutely need to get better defensively this offseason, and
Speaker 1: they'll tell you that. I mean, they knew what they
Speaker 1: were giving away when they made the deal, and it
Speaker 1: was just a huge, huge gamble that Kyrie was going
Speaker 1: to want to stay, that Kyrie wasn't going to get
Speaker 1: a ton of huge offers elsewhere. And they certainly thought
Speaker 1: that these guys would play better together and play better
Speaker 1: individually even than they have in this finishing kick. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot of difficult decisions and
Speaker 1: interesting conversations in Dallas, especially if they don't even make
Speaker 1: the play in which is the position as we sit
Speaker 1: here and record today where we are, although again fifty
Speaker 1: two pick up, it could all change tomorrow. You talked
Speaker 1: about duos or guys that didn't work out though Producer
Speaker 1: Nate was trying to figure out what the top five
Speaker 1: duos that never worked out were, which of course prompted
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion here before we even started keeping Um,
Speaker 1: do you have yours? What do you think? But who
Speaker 1: are your some of your duos who didn't work out?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously we got Audie and Shaw's Barkley, Um
Speaker 1: that didn't quite work out? Yao mean and Tracy McGrady
Speaker 1: duo wasn't that great? Um, I mean, I can even
Speaker 1: throw myself in there, uh with you know, me and
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis to say it didn't work, will be you
Speaker 1: know a lot because I see that next season we
Speaker 1: proved we could work. But you know henjury, did you
Speaker 1: know derail? What what could have been? So we gotta
Speaker 1: throw right Yeah, same situation, similar situation. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: you got to throw it in there regardless. You know,
Speaker 1: if the talent would have worked, but it didn't work, So, um,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw myself in there as well. Something if
Speaker 1: you ask me with duo I think is the most
Speaker 1: paralented I'm gonna go with myself and they d for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely never wouldn't be mad at that almost was the greatest.
Speaker 1: Almost was champions. Yeah, that would have been a problem.
Speaker 1: But I mean also I also think you throw in
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn situation. I mean I think that'll go down
Speaker 1: probably is the greatest trio duo to never do anything.
Speaker 1: Um and then you look at you again, it's too
Speaker 1: early to judge, but if this comes to an end,
Speaker 1: you would think that Luca and Kyrie, when you think
Speaker 1: about just two guys that are gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and get it, that that that are incredible players, that
Speaker 1: that that really just haven't had a chance to find
Speaker 1: their chemistry. Um, you know, you can definitely throw that
Speaker 1: in there, but again it's it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: been twenty one games and even less together. But I
Speaker 1: have a hard time throwing Boogie in there though, because
Speaker 1: of the catastrophic injury that he had, because again I
Speaker 1: think that next season you proved what you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna do. But then Rachel bring a great point. You know,
Speaker 1: by the time that you know t Mac and yeah
Speaker 1: we're ready to rock, they both were struggling from injury.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a tough situation, but something without injury.
Speaker 1: To me, the biggest what if will be the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1: I think that'll go down in history as you know,
Speaker 1: you get a Kyrie and you get a Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: and you've had a James hardness, just like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: this team on paper could be the greatest ever and
Speaker 1: they didn't accomplish anything, which is unfortunate for fans and
Speaker 1: for that's a stat yesterday that the guys who came
Speaker 1: over in the Phoenix trade have now played more games
Speaker 1: together for the Brooklyn Nets than that Trio did for
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. Trade deadline was last month. People, this
Speaker 1: has already happened. Many games went twenty one games. Insane,
Speaker 1: absolute insanity. Well, it's tough when we think about, you know,
Speaker 1: duos or trios or superstars. We were really excited being
Speaker 1: together when they didn't work out. You know, injury is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest thieves there. I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of the situations where it's just you, and then there's
Speaker 1: the guys that didn't work out for reasons that go
Speaker 1: way beyond that into the locker room. And those are
Speaker 1: the ones too that I think are hard for fans.
Speaker 1: The West is a mess. I want to get back
Speaker 1: to the East for a minute. We had a very
Speaker 1: controversial moment Monday night, guys. Joel Embi did not play
Speaker 1: in the very hyped up MVP on MVP voter violence matchup,
Speaker 1: rumble wwe whatever you want to call it. Was supposed
Speaker 1: to happen between Ebide and Yogi when the Sixers came
Speaker 1: to visit the Nuggets and sat with a calf injury.
Speaker 1: What did you make of that when you heard that
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing, especially since he had played the last
Speaker 1: couple of games, but he has been dealing with a
Speaker 1: legit injury. It's a little bit tough to know where
Speaker 1: to put your feelings on this boogie. I don't feel
Speaker 1: any type of way about it. We've seen the matchup, Uh,
Speaker 1: we've seen the results of it. Just dropped fifty on
Speaker 1: them not too long ago. To keep pushing this narrative,
Speaker 1: and obviously I understand it's an MVP race, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a long term goal, which is winning the
Speaker 1: championship for seventy sixers and then we're focused on a
Speaker 1: you know, individual award and in a single game in
Speaker 1: regular season, and I don't think everybody's on the same
Speaker 1: page in an organization, so I think I think this
Speaker 1: was the perfect move. Obviously it sucks for the fans
Speaker 1: and for the watch and for the viewers and watches
Speaker 1: of the game, but it's a it's a long term
Speaker 1: goal here, and you got to make sure the big
Speaker 1: fella is healthy, and we just got to stop looking
Speaker 1: for excuses to you know, bass Joe well and praise
Speaker 1: not give it to great right, Let's let's respect that part.
Speaker 1: And when it comes to the two players, for me,
Speaker 1: it's hard to even compare. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: that is it's I view Yoka Jazz, you know, on
Speaker 1: Lebron type. He's an all around player. He gets everybody involved,
Speaker 1: you know, things of that nature, and he's great at
Speaker 1: And then I view Joel, you know, as a more
Speaker 1: of a killer Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant type. He can
Speaker 1: dominate the game with his feelings and keep the defense
Speaker 1: on the heels and entire game. And it's just a
Speaker 1: whole different type of dynamic and plan styt that he
Speaker 1: comes with. They're both great and all right, and I
Speaker 1: think both guys should just be credited for their greatness
Speaker 1: and not compared. And you know, the whole toxic conversation
Speaker 1: that's going around, I hate it. So just get these
Speaker 1: guys that flowers into vision. Hm. I agree. Um, I
Speaker 1: think you know, although we would love to see the matchup, Um,
Speaker 1: that would have happened Monday night. You know, when you
Speaker 1: look at their head to head record and beat his
Speaker 1: five and two against the Joker very is beating them
Speaker 1: in every statistical category except assists. Obviously, that's a you know,
Speaker 1: Joker can go down as one of the greatest passing
Speaker 1: big men we've ever seen. And also on the flip side,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know back to back MVPs, but
Speaker 1: I don't feel like for some reason, Joker gets the
Speaker 1: heat that other guys that have won MVPs gets, Like
Speaker 1: when does his team have to win a championship for
Speaker 1: his you know, MVPs to be validated, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You see a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: on the clock. They need to win this, they need
Speaker 1: to win that. But then I don't hear no one
Speaker 1: talking about the two time, possibly three time. Maybe the
Speaker 1: MVP's team needs to win. And granted, Rachel, we've talked
Speaker 1: about before, injuries play a big part. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: your team has to be together. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I mean, this man is the MVP of the league,
Speaker 1: so I think it'll be interesting. I think Joel obviously
Speaker 1: made a statement the last time they played. We would
Speaker 1: have loved to get a chance to see this time
Speaker 1: because they only get a chance to play each other
Speaker 1: twice a year because they're in different conferences. But you know,
Speaker 1: if we're looking at it right now, I got Embat
Speaker 1: as my MVP. I don't get a vote because I
Speaker 1: guess I get in too much trouble outside the studio still,
Speaker 1: but I would make embiid, you know, my MVP, and
Speaker 1: I think obviously Jannis and Joker right in that mix
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, do you guys you tell me
Speaker 1: there are player's code about Hey, you know, you don't
Speaker 1: miss games like that if you're you know, limping in
Speaker 1: on one leg, you got to show up. Or is
Speaker 1: it more of a time where it's like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: not smart when you're about to try to make a
Speaker 1: playoff push to play if you're not feeling well. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's different, you know, I think the times
Speaker 1: of change. I think, you know, the first part you put,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe back when early two thousands when I
Speaker 1: came in the league, or maybe when Boogie first came
Speaker 1: in the league. You try to play through little nagging stuff.
Speaker 1: But I really feel like, you know, Philly feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, they've been playing some good basketball and they
Speaker 1: have a chance to represent the Eastern Conference. So if
Speaker 1: it is something that they feel is nagging and they
Speaker 1: want to heal, I don't know if sitting out one
Speaker 1: game is going to do that. But you know, with
Speaker 1: someone like Embiid, I would err on the side of
Speaker 1: car you know, although you know the MVP is a
Speaker 1: tremendous you know, Accolade, I think the goal like Bookie said,
Speaker 1: hasn't win a championship, so you don't want to risk
Speaker 1: that for an individual award. So I mean, we'll see
Speaker 1: how it plays that if he comes back and plays
Speaker 1: the next game. I would have been like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you could have sat out one of the other
Speaker 1: games and played this game. But who are we to
Speaker 1: judge all that shit? I mean, I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with sort of the number of miss games overall,
Speaker 1: which is the other thing that got brought up a
Speaker 1: lot in the wake of him not playing this game.
Speaker 1: It was his fourteenth miss game of the season. There's
Speaker 1: only one player in NBA history who's missed more than
Speaker 1: twelve and still won the MVP. That was Bill Walton
Speaker 1: in the seventy eight season. He missed twenty four games.
Speaker 1: But to me, that issue he's played enough. To me,
Speaker 1: Joel has played enough that I have seen what he
Speaker 1: can do this season. It's a different time. As you
Speaker 1: point out, guys miss games more often, and his body
Speaker 1: type and sort of playing the position he plays, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna miss a little bit more games more often.
Speaker 1: To me, it's has he played enough games that I
Speaker 1: can see who he is this season? And I can
Speaker 1: judge whether he is the MVP or not. Do you
Speaker 1: guys put a lot of stocking games played when we
Speaker 1: get to this level. I do. I do put a
Speaker 1: lot of stock, But I don't think he's missed like
Speaker 1: like twenty four games. That's a lot. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would be like, damn, you won the VP if you
Speaker 1: missed twenty four games, but you know, to miss twelve
Speaker 1: fourteen games out of eighty two, where it say he
Speaker 1: even misses a game or two, you know, coming into
Speaker 1: to the closing line, I don't think that's you know,
Speaker 1: enough to to to rule him out because you know, again,
Speaker 1: when he plays, and he's played a lot this year,
Speaker 1: we already know what he's gonna give you. I agree, Um,
Speaker 1: obviously it's not some crazy number where it's a drastic difference,
Speaker 1: but you know, twelve missing games is anything in my opinion,
Speaker 1: So that's not enough for me to say I don't
Speaker 1: think he deserves an award. So yeah, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going with that notion either. We got another guy,
Speaker 1: big star missing games, but this one might be for
Speaker 1: different reason. Damian Lillard set out his third straight game
Speaker 1: Monday night. Now Blazer's lost to the Pelicans, they're in
Speaker 1: thirteenth place. He's out with also calf tightness. Only eight
Speaker 1: games left in the season for them, and it's possible
Speaker 1: we don't see Dame the rest of this season, right
Speaker 1: if they're already in thirteenth. We just talked about how
Speaker 1: many teams we're trying to elbow into the West into
Speaker 1: those final spots, and maybe Portland decides, Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to go for the lottery. But does shutting Dame down
Speaker 1: for the season mean, I don't know, Matt, do you
Speaker 1: think that we are not going to see Damian Lillard
Speaker 1: in the Blazer's uniform again? Because the talk is up
Speaker 1: now that there might be looking for a deal for
Speaker 1: him this summer. I hope we don't see Damian Lillard
Speaker 1: in a Portland Trail Blazer's uniform no more. And obviously
Speaker 1: that's no knock on him. I just you know, as
Speaker 1: loyal as he is, he's loyal people of Portland, and
Speaker 1: you've got to respect that. But Rachel, I think the
Speaker 1: only way Dame leaves Portland as if they quote unquote
Speaker 1: make him leave, you know what I mean, if they
Speaker 1: understand they're going to be in a rebuild and we
Speaker 1: understand that he's at the point of his career where
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to rebuild. I think if Portland almost
Speaker 1: forces him out, you know, obviously they'll use much different
Speaker 1: wording than I'm using, but I think Portland's going to
Speaker 1: have to push him out to get him to leave.
Speaker 1: I don't think if you leave it up to him,
Speaker 1: that he's going to leave at this point, But for
Speaker 1: his sake, I would love to see him leave. He's
Speaker 1: still only thirty two years old, having a career year
Speaker 1: at thirty two averaging thirty two points. I would just
Speaker 1: love to see him have a real, real chance at winning,
Speaker 1: and Portland hasn't given him that. I think their best
Speaker 1: teams were the team to kept running into that Warrior's team,
Speaker 1: that Warrior dynasty. I think Portland was a really good team,
Speaker 1: and they kept running into that dynasty that the Golden
Speaker 1: State had, so their their greatness ran into the warriors greatness,
Speaker 1: and obviously the Warrior's greatness prevailed. So I think the
Speaker 1: ship is sailed for any kind of greatness going on
Speaker 1: in Portland, and I would love to see Dame leave
Speaker 1: him if that means Portland has to kick him out
Speaker 1: the door. Do you think we see Dame play for
Speaker 1: the Blazers again. Here, I'm a Matt please No, Um,
Speaker 1: it's just time, man. They're not really doing anything for
Speaker 1: him roster wise, They're not getting any you know, help
Speaker 1: for the guy. Uh, it's ran his course. I think
Speaker 1: Dame is you know, proving his point on you know,
Speaker 1: his morals and what he stands on. He's a big
Speaker 1: time loyalty guy and I'm cut from that same class,
Speaker 1: so I'm appreciative of that. But at this point, it's
Speaker 1: a legacy. It's about you know, your name, all the
Speaker 1: bloods until you put in and you deserve at least
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play for the big you know, the
Speaker 1: bigger picture. Um, I think it's some teams that could
Speaker 1: take them on right now when he could literally you know,
Speaker 1: make them a contender. So yeah, it's it's it's definitely time.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's overdue. Who are those teams in your opinion?
Speaker 1: Ain't that popped out to me right away? It's Miami
Speaker 1: heat Um you put him with you know, Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: and Bam. I think I think they got a chance
Speaker 1: to dominate the East and uh and come out with
Speaker 1: a chance you know, to contend, so Miami six out. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Lakers are always in that conversation. Um, if there's
Speaker 1: any way to you know, pair him with Lebron and
Speaker 1: half in your days, you have to do it. But
Speaker 1: I can also see that trade, you know, breaking up
Speaker 1: that tandem as well. So um, you know, obviously the
Speaker 1: Clippers are in that conversation as well. They got the
Speaker 1: losses that they could move to make that happen. But um, ye,
Speaker 1: as far as Portland, it's it's overdue. Well, he's got
Speaker 1: a really big salary, so that's going to be a
Speaker 1: factor about where he could end up. Although I always
Speaker 1: say that if a team wants to get someone, they
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to get them. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see him in the garden Personally, I think that
Speaker 1: dam in the Knick's uniform would be pretty out of hand.
Speaker 1: But it's hard because you talk about the relationship between
Speaker 1: the city of Portland and the way he has been
Speaker 1: with that town and the loyalty in both directions there
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean the fans there adore him.
Speaker 1: It is a two way street there, and so it
Speaker 1: is uncomfortable to talk about the idea that that partnership
Speaker 1: might break up. I think Dame has been so smart
Speaker 1: in the way he's talked about that loyalty that you're
Speaker 1: referring to Boogie, and he said, look, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go chase championships because ay, that's not how I'm
Speaker 1: built and be a lot of the guys that have
Speaker 1: done that, that have left to sort of beyond what
Speaker 1: they thought was going to be a title team. It
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. We just talked about how things fell
Speaker 1: apart in Brooklyn. There's been a lot of teams where
Speaker 1: guys thought that they were joining a super team and
Speaker 1: it doesn't play out that way. So he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to make that kind of move. That being said, there's
Speaker 1: a big difference between I'm not just chasing every shiny
Speaker 1: car that goes by, and there might be a better
Speaker 1: situation for him and the Blazers might decide there's a
Speaker 1: better situation for both sides this summer, I just can't
Speaker 1: believe that, you know, if happens, it's going to happen
Speaker 1: kind of like this with a whimper. It's a bummer.
Speaker 1: It's a bummer that he's not able to go out
Speaker 1: fighting if this is in fact his final day is important,
Speaker 1: are very We'll see, we will see, all right, I
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Speaker 1: one seemingly an award that Jaren Jackson Junior was running
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Speaker 1: I want to look at the odds. Brook Lopez now
Speaker 1: a minus two hundred for Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: while JJJ has the second best odds he's plus one fifty.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you what do you guys
Speaker 1: think Memphis has the best defense in the West? Boy?
Speaker 1: Who would you take between those guys for Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm gonna go with the young feather. Uh.
Speaker 1: I like the culture that created Um he's a young
Speaker 1: guy that's creating a name for himself there. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: at the top of the mountain. Amongst a very heavily
Speaker 1: talented West conference. Um, just to just to be able
Speaker 1: to create a standard like that, and you know it's
Speaker 1: heavy competition. I think that's incredible. Uh, it kind of
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me, you know, the okay se
Speaker 1: vibes of that that young Russell Westbrout, Kevin Durant, James
Speaker 1: Hart obviously not as talented, but just being able to
Speaker 1: create something so special so early, you got it. So
Speaker 1: I'm fall I'm gonna go with Brook Lopez, I think,
Speaker 1: and we talked before we got on air, the way
Speaker 1: he's been able to adapt his game, uh, to survive
Speaker 1: as long as he survived. I mean, this guy was
Speaker 1: an All star center, uh, playing on the block, you know,
Speaker 1: putting up monster numbers on the block, and he's been
Speaker 1: able to check change his game to this current game
Speaker 1: where he's one of the best shooting bigs and he
Speaker 1: protects the middle and he's a great tandem with Jannis.
Speaker 1: So that and him and his brother used to come
Speaker 1: to our au presses when they're like seven or eight
Speaker 1: years old and steal women's purses from under the bleachers
Speaker 1: and get in trouble all the time. So I like
Speaker 1: robbing and Brooke, because I've been knowing they've been little
Speaker 1: menaces for a long time. We have to point out
Speaker 1: they gave them back. This was not them like stealing
Speaker 1: them away. They would move them around. They were little kids.
Speaker 1: They were not thieves. Yeah no, no. Their older brother
Speaker 1: played on my AU team and the little twins. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. They were little twin boys and they were
Speaker 1: just climbing up walls and things they used to do
Speaker 1: is they used to like take purses from underneath the
Speaker 1: bleachers and just do all kinds of wild little shit.
Speaker 1: So from that too, you know, hopefully a defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. You know, my pick is is Brook Lopeck.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine two twin boys causing trouble and a
Speaker 1: basketball environment, Matt Barns. I don't know. I can, I can.
Speaker 1: I can trust me. That's why that's why I have
Speaker 1: They have a special place in my heart that here
Speaker 1: every day right right. But if you see Matt's twins play,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, way better than their pot exactly exactly. That's
Speaker 1: the mastery. You just make sure you have your seat
Speaker 1: belt on your car right now, Sophy, first, come on
Speaker 1: listen travel show, Matt. We're gonna talk to some Jaylen
Speaker 1: Brown before I let you, guys go. Um, if Jalen
Speaker 1: Land's one of the fifteen All NBA slots coming up
Speaker 1: being voted on by a panel of a hundred sports
Speaker 1: writers and broadcasters at the end of the regular season,
Speaker 1: he will be eligible to sign a five year, two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety million dollars Supermax extension with the Celtics
Speaker 1: this summer. Um Been does some discussion in the media
Speaker 1: about Jab's future with the Celtics. Um, guys, look, Boogie,
Speaker 1: you were in this situation in Sacramento before the trade.
Speaker 1: Is such a strange position to be in, knowing that
Speaker 1: you have to make All NBA and that the bunch
Speaker 1: of sportswriters are the ones who decided. What is that
Speaker 1: like as a player to know that that this is
Speaker 1: how this works right now in the NBA? And what
Speaker 1: do you think of the system? I think it's a
Speaker 1: bullshit system, um, and some bullshit media members as well. Um,
Speaker 1: And I can say that from a personal standpoint, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's about basketball. It's about how you perform on the floor. Uh.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I look at it as you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta kiss a little ass just to you know,
Speaker 1: get what you're looking for out of this when it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that way. So I'm looking for more of
Speaker 1: a criteria or more of a standard to you know,
Speaker 1: what it takes to get these accolades and the team
Speaker 1: that's done. So, um, I'm not a fan of what's
Speaker 1: going on within the media anyway. So that's just my thing, Rachel.
Speaker 1: With you being someone that has voted, have you voted
Speaker 1: on that in the past? I have, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to vote again this year. Are you aware of stuff
Speaker 1: like this? Like? Hey, like obviously, once it kind of
Speaker 1: starts floating, does that play into a decision amongst you
Speaker 1: and some of them? There are two separate questions. Am
Speaker 1: I aware of it? Yes? Does it play into the decision? Okay,
Speaker 1: not for me? And look, by the way, as a voter,
Speaker 1: as someone who's worked in this business for a long time,
Speaker 1: there is no way, Boogie, that I'm going to defend
Speaker 1: every media member out there, because of course, just like
Speaker 1: with a group of players, just like with everything, some
Speaker 1: of the people are crazy and some of the people
Speaker 1: are very smart to know what they're doing. So um,
Speaker 1: it's just like any other large group of people. I
Speaker 1: will say, though, what I come back to every time
Speaker 1: players have a problem with the way this is decided,
Speaker 1: is who else do you want? Because we have seen
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is a perfect system. I just
Speaker 1: don't know what the solution is. When players vote themselves
Speaker 1: and we have who vote for the All Star Game,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in a way that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: You had Chet Holmgren, who hadn't played a game this
Speaker 1: season get four All Star votes. You have guys who
Speaker 1: are bench players on the team getting votes for All Star.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to these kinds of awards and
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars on the line, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you can drust players because they don't vote in
Speaker 1: a way that has shown that they are actually voting
Speaker 1: on any kind of criteria. And of course there's favoritism
Speaker 1: and grudges. I mean, if Pat Beverley had to vote
Speaker 1: on whether Russell Westbrook got an award, I mean, how
Speaker 1: would that go? Right? So I don't think the players
Speaker 1: can vote. The coaches obviously have even deeper relationships, ties
Speaker 1: and allegiances than any media member. Might you say you've
Speaker 1: got to kiss a little ass to get some media
Speaker 1: to vote for you? Obviously a player coach relationship. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things going on there where the
Speaker 1: voting would not be kosher. So I just I don't
Speaker 1: know what the solution should be. Matt, Do you have
Speaker 1: a solution for what to do here? No? But I
Speaker 1: just also think, I mean, the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 1: Jathon Brown to me, is one of the best two
Speaker 1: guards in the NBA. He plays both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: and I think he deserves a SUPERMAX. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that people should have to vote on that for
Speaker 1: him to get that. I think his play has proven
Speaker 1: that he deserves that. So I agree with you, Rachel.
Speaker 1: To me, there's no other logical way to get an
Speaker 1: All NBA team. I mean, I was gonna say, we
Speaker 1: need to get some of the older players, maybe some
Speaker 1: Hall of famers, but some of them, dudes are old haters,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So that may not work either.
Speaker 1: So there is there is no perfect system. But I
Speaker 1: agree with Boogie from a standpoint of just as Boogie did,
Speaker 1: he played himself into that max and then unfortunately got hurt.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Jadon Brown has proven itself to
Speaker 1: be a top player in this league, and he should
Speaker 1: get that money, and I don't think it should hinge
Speaker 1: on whether or not he makes one of the top
Speaker 1: three all NBA teams. I mean, that's something that the
Speaker 1: owners in the Players Association could easily just make happen,
Speaker 1: is say that post season awards, whether it's all MBA,
Speaker 1: whether it's MVP, that they don't count as part of
Speaker 1: contract incentives. If they wanted to just erase the media's
Speaker 1: role in this kind of thing and the money kind
Speaker 1: of aspect of it, they could do that in the
Speaker 1: next CBA. They're negotiating a CBA right now, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's been any discussion about that. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a perfect system at all. I do
Speaker 1: think that Jaylen Brown, though, has earned his way into
Speaker 1: that spot. And I might think that whether there's money
Speaker 1: on the line or not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Last year there wasn't one in the line. The year before,
Speaker 1: there wasn't this kind of money on the line. So
Speaker 1: he's gotten votes at different times for all kinds of reasons.
Speaker 1: It's just this time there's a very high, high, high
Speaker 1: dollar mountain attached to it. We'll have to see what
Speaker 1: happens there. I wanted to get through a couple other
Speaker 1: quick things. This is a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to wait until you guys were both here.
Speaker 1: The Athletic ran a poll of players who were I
Speaker 1: think former players recently retired, and part of the idea
Speaker 1: was what would you do differently in your professional career
Speaker 1: if you could play in the current era. And obviously
Speaker 1: I'm talking to two guys who are very close to
Speaker 1: the current side of the game. But yeah, expect to
Speaker 1: see you back on the floor next season, so you're
Speaker 1: unique ability to be able to speak to this What
Speaker 1: would you do right now? What's the most important? And
Speaker 1: some of their things are work harder, or train smarter,
Speaker 1: shoot more threes, be more careful with my money, take
Speaker 1: the game more seriously. Any of those options do you
Speaker 1: think would hit you? Mett, No, because I did all
Speaker 1: those things. I would say I would just not cuss
Speaker 1: at the ref s. All right, there we go. I
Speaker 1: think that gave me obviously a bad reputation because I
Speaker 1: played hard. I worked hard, I knew what my role was,
Speaker 1: I executed my role. So if I were to come back,
Speaker 1: I would have other people cuss the refs out on me.
Speaker 1: But what about you as you head back to an
Speaker 1: NBA court, Well, it would have been more so along
Speaker 1: those lines. Are as far as being professional and all
Speaker 1: those things, I think I did that to the best
Speaker 1: of my delity. But there's some relationships I wish I
Speaker 1: could you know, uh change or work on in a
Speaker 1: different way or approaching a different way, and maybe more
Speaker 1: so reactions for me. Uh. But as far as anything
Speaker 1: to do with the game, I think I did that
Speaker 1: at a high level. Well, ten percent of the guys
Speaker 1: surveys say I would do nothing differently, So you gotta
Speaker 1: respect that two percent, said stretch More so, I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty good. Also, did anyone did anyone say
Speaker 1: stopped cussing the refs out? Or is that just I
Speaker 1: believe that's just you? Here you go for real. We
Speaker 1: also had a few weeks ago the Clippers revealed that
Speaker 1: their playing was struck by lightning. Do you guys remember
Speaker 1: that story for earlier this month? And it just made
Speaker 1: me want to ask, did you have any close call
Speaker 1: travel stories? We're gambling on the Clipper team plane and
Speaker 1: I lost like a sixty forty or sixty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: pot on some bullshit. I think CPN Blake cheated me.
Speaker 1: So I punched the window and I broke. Luckily it's
Speaker 1: two layers, but I broke the first window. Are you serious,
Speaker 1: like a big ass scar. Yeah, a big ass scard
Speaker 1: still to this day, that was leaking everywhere. But luckily
Speaker 1: it's a double pain window, or we would have probably
Speaker 1: went down. I punched that thing hard because they definitely
Speaker 1: slide of the eye. Someone kicked me in my leg
Speaker 1: and the next thing I know, I'm losing when I
Speaker 1: had an impossible hand to lose. So we talked about
Speaker 1: that on JJ Reddick's podcast season when I actually brought
Speaker 1: it up because I forgot about it. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: were gambling a big money hand one time and I
Speaker 1: lost and I punched the window just out of instinct.
Speaker 1: And luckily it was a double pain window. First of all,
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be unbreakable glass. You know that, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not with these fists. Though. How much money did you lose?
Speaker 1: I think it was they didn't find me for the window.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know. On the hand, yeah, I remember,
Speaker 1: it feels forty. It was like a forty or sixty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars hands I was pissed. I wanted to fuck
Speaker 1: up Blake or CP. I don't know one of them
Speaker 1: cheating me. I don't remember who was dealing at the time,
Speaker 1: but they got me these accusations back parts I have.
Speaker 1: It was one All Star break. I was flying to
Speaker 1: see my wife now, but at the time my girlfriend
Speaker 1: she was in school. So I flew down after a
Speaker 1: game in New York. We played at the Garden that night.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy after the game, so I rented this PJ.
Speaker 1: I literally flew flew to Montgomery, Alabama by myself during
Speaker 1: this blizzard, and it was like the most terrifying experience
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. I couldn't see anything
Speaker 1: outside the plane. It felt like it was just about
Speaker 1: to fall out of the sky like it was right.
Speaker 1: The turbulence was crazy. It was it was. It was
Speaker 1: definitely a moment where I thought her to you know,
Speaker 1: pray to God and just be like, man, just I
Speaker 1: changed everything in my life. You just getting me out
Speaker 1: of this moment. So I think I think that was
Speaker 1: the moment for me. Hey, what you won't do for love?
Speaker 1: Don't PODC have a song? What you won't do it?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you got on the plane for her.
Speaker 1: I know that's crazy, right, that should be a free pass.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Baby, almost cost my life coming.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right man. I love you girl. Well,
Speaker 1: don't don't get into any freak snowstorms in your current
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