1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, if we're looking at it right now, I 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: got Embiid as my MVP. I don't get a vote 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: because I guess I get in too much trouble outside 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: the studio still, but I would make Mbid, you know, 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: my MVP. Welcome into What's Burning here with Matt Barnes, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins, and Bookie. Matt was saying before we started, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: this is our first official What's Burning travel show because 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: you're in your car. But he got kicked out the house. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: That's his bedroom right now. You would never know if 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: it happened, You would never know. Guys, we gotta talk 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: about the Western Conference in the NBA because it is 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: completely out of control right now. Every day I look 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: at the standings, I feel like it's a game of 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: fifty two pick up. Everyone keeps waiting for the Warriors 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: and Lakers. Meanwhile, the Pelicans have won five straight. The 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Timberwolves are in there now, they've won four straight. They're 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: in the number six spot as we sit here and 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: record today. But by the time anyone listens to this podcast, 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that will have changed drastically. There's only six 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: or seven games to go. Matt. When you look at 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: the standings right now. Which teams do you think are 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: actually getting in and which teams are going to be 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: in the play in which teams are going to be out? 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: For you? I think the Uh, I think my my 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: final two teams. I think my seven and eight spots 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: slots are gonna go to. Um, who's gonna be in six? 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: The other question, Yeah, that's so I'm looking at right 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: now because Minnesota's playing well, it just got cat back. 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: They just you know, put it down on sack last night. Uh, 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: it's really up in the air. I feel like the 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: first three seeds are locked. I feel like Phoenix will 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: get that fourth spot because Katie and a and are 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: coming back. Plus the Clippers are missing Paul George. So 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I feel like five through ten our question. But I 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: don't think the Clippers will slide too much. Um. I 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: think the Lakers will come in at eight, Okay, And 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I think, uh, damn, I'm just put Golden State to seven, 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be tough for the for the one, 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: two and three seed. To be honest with you, I mean, 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. Boogie. Do 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: you think that the Timberwolves here who by the way, 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: have one of the easier strength of schedules of all 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: of these teams. Um, do you think that the Wolves 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: can stay where they are now? They've been out of 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: the playoff picture for a while, and then obviously with 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Town's coming back and made this great search. Um, 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I think they can searche you know, with this this 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: lay round at the end. UM, I think it's great 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: timing for them to get Cat back. UM. I can 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: definitely see them making a big push towards the end 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and also having a schedule that they have and it 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: makes the road a little bit easier. So, UM, I 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: can I can agree with Matt on the Timberwolves sliding in. Um. 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: As far as the Lakers go, I I think they'll. 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: I think they'll be in the play in I think, 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, they can obviously win that game. Men get 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: to a playoff series with you know, in one of 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: the top three, that's just a dangerous team to you know, 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to hint in the first round with against anybody. So 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers can find some late success only 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: if they remain healthy. And the Clippers, I'm not sure 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: the Clippers, man, they've been so inconsistent all year and 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to add pg's injury at this time of year. I 64 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not confident and prim in the playoffs, 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: to be honest, I just don't see it happening. What Rache? 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: What is What is the Clippers strength of schedule remaining? 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Where are they are in the total? I think they're 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: right in the middle, pardition. Neate's gonna look it up 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: for us right now? What I don't get about that? 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Oh? Go ahead, I was gonna say, 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: can you imagine whether, just hypothetically, if it's the Lakers eight, 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors seven, and the Clippers six. I mean, 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: arguably we could see the one, two, and three seed 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: all three of them fall. We'd see two of them fall, 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: we could see one of them fall. We could see 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: none of them fall. So I mean to think that 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the Warriors and Clippers were the Western favorites coming into 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: this season. They're at the bottom, but they could still 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: be a first round upset and get hot and run 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: to the finals. I mean to me, the bottom of 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the West is more scary this year. If it settles 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: that way, then I feel like I can remember it. 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: It's hard though, because I keep waiting at The Warriors 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: are a great example. They should be and look they 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: don't have Andrew Wiggins, but they should be getting into 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: that playoff forum. We kept saying, oh, the last twenty games, 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. Well, they lost to Minnesota the 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: other night in a last second game where they should 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: have won. I mean, there's been times where we look 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: at these teams, quote at the bottom of the standings, 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Lakers, the Warriors. In some cases they're 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: there for a reason, and I do wonder if we 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: of them too much, sort of benefit of you know, 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the shiny pieces that they have. You look back forty 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: five to the last forty six NBA champions have been 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: top three seeds. That being said, I'm not sure we've 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: ever had a season like this. I don't remember a 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: season where the Western Conference, where any conference standings were 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: this volatile, this late in the game, with so many positions. 100 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: As you said, Matt for really, five through ten through 101 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: twelve up for grabs. Nate's got his stat here with you. 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: What what do you got? Oh, six started hardest, more 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: hard than I thought. All right, So bogies Boogie's a 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: posit here has some weight. They have the six hardest 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: schedule books, so maybe they're the team that drops out, 106 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: although they did win Monday night, so it's very hard 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on there. And when you 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: talk about the Lakers, Matt Lebron says he didn't even 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: want to be in the plan. He said, to hell 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: with the play and he said, we can actually be 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: a top six seed. That change part of my mindset 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: on me coming back and trying to be a part 113 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: of this. I mean, where are they. We've been waiting 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: on it. Shit, we've been waiting on it. You've been 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: waiting to see that. We've been waiting to see. We 116 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: feel it, but we've been waiting to see it. So 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the hell with it is the right idea, 118 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: but the player might end up saving them and giving 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: them an opportunity to really, you know, stretch their wings 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: out and be healthy for the first time as a 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: committee all season, have you guys seen do you remember 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: a time like this where it was this crazy down 123 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the stretch? No, well, you got to think the Warriors 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: have been I mean, you know, there's been clear cut 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: favorites for the last half of years. I can't even 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: remember how long like to me, and I'd say, there's 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: all due respect to Denver, you know, the bubble Western 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: Conference run. To me, it doesn't prove nothing in this 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: regular you know kind of circumstances. We're Indy and you 130 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: look at Memphis, they're young in experience. You look at Sacramento, 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: they're young going in experience. So to me, the top 132 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: three seeds have obviously they're there for a reason. They 133 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: earned it. They played well this season. But you know, 134 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: we talk about Golden State, we talk about the Lakers, 135 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: we talk about the you know, the Clippers. Those are 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: all teams with veteran experience, guys that have won championships. Guy, 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: is that know if any team can turn it on, 138 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: it's teams like that that can turn I'm not saying 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: they're going to but you give those kind of teams 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: to benefit of the doubt because they have players that 141 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: have done it before. I mean, I wouldn't want to 142 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: see any of them. I know that. Who are you 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: guys most scared of in that conference? They were talking about? 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Who are you looking at? Book? You're talking about to be? 145 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Clippers, Lakers and Wards. I mean all right, 146 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: so is it is it the Warriors for you? Defending champs. 147 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: Is it someone else? I think you throw Phoenix in 148 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: there too. You know. The word is Katie is coming 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: back this week. They get Aiden back, and Katie is 150 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: one of those special superstars where you can just throw anywhere. 151 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: You saw they were three oh before he got hurt. Um, 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: So Phoenix is someone that I want to watch out for. 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I think Chris knows his you know, his time is 154 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: coming up. Book is playing at a you know, an 155 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: all NBA level. Uh. And you know what Katie does. 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: And I can see Katie kind of playing like the 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: wingman until it gets real, like how just how he 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: did with Staff. He played the wing man until it 159 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: got real and then he look over and got finals MVP. 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: So um to me my team, I'm watching the liner right. 161 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: So they're the team you most wouldn't want to wake 162 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: up and see. Yes, and what about you, boogie? Oh? 163 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: I can agree with matt Um. I think I think 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: this is the first playoff run in recent years that 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: will see a fully healthy Chris Paul as well. It's 166 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: not as much pressure, not as much of a workload. 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: We're having Kevin Durant for that team. Famis is a 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: very very dangerous team. I can agree with Matt with 169 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: that for sure. It's gonna be so interesting. Normally I 170 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: would give all kinds of, you know, credence to chemistry 171 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: and you can't just throw guys in there. But with 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, I kind of feel like all the rules 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: are off. He is the guy that you can throw 174 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: in there. You can put him in any system and 175 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna work absolutely, And just personality wise too. You know, 176 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: he's not coming in there and demanding that he'd be 177 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: a star, or that he'd be treat differently or any 178 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I just think all the rules about, hey, 179 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: you need a whole season to play together, they go 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: out the window with Kevin Durant. So we will see 181 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: if health gets to be a factor there, but that 182 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: that's really the biggest question with them. Speaking of guys 183 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: that got thrown together and the chemistry has not picked 184 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: up so far. Is the Dallas Mavericks. They finally ended 185 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: a four game slide Monday night when they beat the Pacers, 186 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: but gosh, it has been a rough week. Luca has 187 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: been talking about how unhappy and frustrated he is. He's 188 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: hinted at having some issues off the court. They lost 189 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: to the Hornets twice, including they were favored. I think 190 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: by sixteen it was considered the biggest loss, of the 191 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: biggest upset, rather of the entire season. Numbers wise, it 192 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: just has not been good there. And by the way, 193 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: since the Kyrie trade, they're eight and thirteen, only four 194 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: wins when Luca and Kyrie are in the lineup together. Matt, 195 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: what is How would you describe what you're seeing here? 196 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: I think it I think it's it's still early to 197 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: kind of right off this duo, because you know, what 198 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: is a eight thirteen They've only played twenty one games together, 199 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: if my master serves me correctly. But I think they unpopular. Yeah, 200 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: it was all right that since he's gone team, but 201 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: this may be an unpopular decision. But I just look 202 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: at Kyrie's track record, and as great as an individual 203 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: talent he is, he had problems with Lebron and he 204 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: wanted to move on and be a leader. He goes 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: to Boston, he doesn't get along with the two young stars, 206 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: he moves, he goes to Brooklyn, and we'll talk about 207 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: this later in the show. Arguably the biggest what if 208 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: in the history with him, k D and James Harden. 209 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Now he's in Dallas with Luca, who is the future 210 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: of this league. Into a coincidence that every time he 211 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: goes to a team there's dysfunction. I mean, Lucas had 212 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: to carry the load for the last but three four 213 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: years all by hisself, and we've never heard him speak 214 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: about unhappiness. Obviously there could be some way, you know, 215 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: you hear stuff with his mom, and we don't want 216 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: to speculate with what's going on with that, but it 217 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: just seems like everywhere Kyrie goes there is an issue. 218 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: Now that can be that could be a coincidence, or 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: it could be that Kyrie is the issue as again 220 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: as a greater talent. He is a top five talent, 221 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: no doubt, but just seems like every time he makes 222 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: a pit stop, shit gets fucked up. So I don't 223 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: know if that's the case here. We're speculating because we're 224 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: not in that locker room or from the outside looking in, 225 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: it's not hard to draw that kind of conclusion. What 226 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: do you think when you see them, bug, I think 227 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: it's a similar a similar situation to kind of what 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: I went through when I got traded from Sacramento mid season. 229 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: We ended up going. I ended up going to New 230 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Orleans and linking up with a d and we struggled. 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: That's second half, closing part of the season, because obviously 232 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: it was a mid season trade. Me and him were 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: still finding chemistry. The guys that were traded away in 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: order to acquire me then kind of threw off the 235 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: whole balance of the team. So you're kind of finishing 236 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: out of season to you know, basically, I have roster, 237 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: you don't have the necessary pieces to compliment your two 238 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: stars to keep the whole floor in karate of the 239 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: team moving forward. So in my opinion, that play is 240 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: a big part in you know, mid season trades, and 241 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, you get Kevin Durant win and things 242 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: can you know, flow seams, But that's just not the 243 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: case with these two type of players. So I still 244 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: think they deserve more time. I'll be more ready to 245 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: judge this team next season when pieces that compliment them 246 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: and things of that nature, and then we can kind 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: of make a judgment. But as of right now, this 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: is just a mid season trade. They have their two 249 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: building blocks, so we'll see what they do with these 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: next couple of seasons. If it even happens but boogie, 251 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: do you But I was about to say, is there 252 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: a guarantee that Kyrie stays? Is there a guarantee that 253 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: that that that Cuban pays him to keep him? You 254 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because I think they wanted to 255 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: sample and I could read one thousand percent because I 256 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: feel like you guys definitely hit you Stride the next 257 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: season and then obviously you know the injury derail with 258 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you and a d could have did um. But I 259 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: think this is going to be a sample size. And 260 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: if you're Mark Cuban and you don't even make the 261 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: playoffs or you get bumped into play in, I agree 262 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: with you because it took a lot of pieces to 263 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: get Kyrie. Are you going to commit to Kyrie and 264 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: and give him the money that he you know, deserves 265 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: as a player individually? Uh? To me, that is a 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: huge question. I'm not sure what the market for Kyrie 267 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: is going to be this summer. Me neither you know 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: what the market to be. But I definitely believe Cuban though, 269 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: or make a better decision. He's than in this situation 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: before as well, when he made that Trey for Rondo. 271 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think I think Mark's a 272 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: pretty good businessman, and I don't think he'll make the 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: same mistake twice. So if anything, he's gonna try to 274 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: make this due or work to the bust of his ability. 275 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I agree, it's too early to really judge it. I 276 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: just don't feel like they have defense thoughe Uh, you know, 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: at least when when you and you know, if you 278 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: talk about Unad situation, Ad was a defensive anchor. You 279 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: can move a little bit, But neither of these guys 280 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: even want to play the defense, you know what I mean? 281 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: And those are those are the two stars, so that 282 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: that's my whole thing. So I think, you know, Cuban 283 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: has a track record of making solid decisions, but this 284 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: is a situation I wouldn't want to have to decide on. 285 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: It's just tough. I think it depends partly on what 286 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: other teams are willing to offer Kyrie, because if you 287 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: give Kyrie too much, obviously, that eats up money that 288 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: you could be spending on the rest of your roster. 289 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: They absolutely need to get better defensively this offseason, and 290 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: they'll tell you that. I mean, they knew what they 291 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: were giving away when they made the deal, and it 292 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: was just a huge, huge gamble that Kyrie was going 293 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: to want to stay, that Kyrie wasn't going to get 294 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: a ton of huge offers elsewhere. And they certainly thought 295 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: that these guys would play better together and play better 296 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: individually even than they have in this finishing kick. So 297 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot of difficult decisions and 298 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: interesting conversations in Dallas, especially if they don't even make 299 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: the play in which is the position as we sit 300 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: here and record today where we are, although again fifty 301 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: two pick up, it could all change tomorrow. You talked 302 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: about duos or guys that didn't work out though Producer 303 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Nate was trying to figure out what the top five 304 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: duos that never worked out were, which of course prompted 305 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion here before we even started keeping Um, 306 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: do you have yours? What do you think? But who 307 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: are your some of your duos who didn't work out? 308 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, obviously we got Audie and Shaw's Barkley, Um 309 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: that didn't quite work out? Yao mean and Tracy McGrady 310 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: duo wasn't that great? Um, I mean, I can even 311 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: throw myself in there, uh with you know, me and 312 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis to say it didn't work, will be you 313 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: know a lot because I see that next season we 314 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: proved we could work. But you know henjury, did you 315 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: know derail? What what could have been? So we gotta 316 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: throw right Yeah, same situation, similar situation. So, like I said, 317 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: you got to throw it in there regardless. You know, 318 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: if the talent would have worked, but it didn't work, So, um, 319 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: you gotta throw myself in there as well. Something if 320 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: you ask me with duo I think is the most 321 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: paralented I'm gonna go with myself and they d for sure. Yeah, 322 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: absolutely never wouldn't be mad at that almost was the greatest. 323 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Almost was champions. Yeah, that would have been a problem. 324 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: But I mean also I also think you throw in 325 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn situation. I mean I think that'll go down 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: probably is the greatest trio duo to never do anything. 327 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: Um and then you look at you again, it's too 328 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: early to judge, but if this comes to an end, 329 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you would think that Luca and Kyrie, when you think 330 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: about just two guys that are gonna go out there 331 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and get it, that that that are incredible players, that 332 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: that that really just haven't had a chance to find 333 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: their chemistry. Um, you know, you can definitely throw that 334 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: in there, but again it's it's you know, it's it's 335 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: been twenty one games and even less together. But I 336 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: have a hard time throwing Boogie in there though, because 337 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: of the catastrophic injury that he had, because again I 338 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: think that next season you proved what you guys are 339 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna do. But then Rachel bring a great point. You know, 340 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: by the time that you know t Mac and yeah 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: we're ready to rock, they both were struggling from injury. 342 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a tough situation, but something without injury. 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: To me, the biggest what if will be the Brooklyn Nets. 344 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: I think that'll go down in history as you know, 345 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: you get a Kyrie and you get a Kevin Durant 346 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: and you've had a James hardness, just like, holy shit, 347 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: this team on paper could be the greatest ever and 348 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: they didn't accomplish anything, which is unfortunate for fans and 349 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: for that's a stat yesterday that the guys who came 350 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: over in the Phoenix trade have now played more games 351 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: together for the Brooklyn Nets than that Trio did for 352 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. Trade deadline was last month. People, this 353 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: has already happened. Many games went twenty one games. Insane, 354 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: absolute insanity. Well, it's tough when we think about, you know, 355 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: duos or trios or superstars. We were really excited being 356 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: together when they didn't work out. You know, injury is 357 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: one of the biggest thieves there. I mean, it's one 358 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: of the situations where it's just you, and then there's 359 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: the guys that didn't work out for reasons that go 360 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: way beyond that into the locker room. And those are 361 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: the ones too that I think are hard for fans. 362 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: The West is a mess. I want to get back 363 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: to the East for a minute. We had a very 364 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: controversial moment Monday night, guys. Joel Embi did not play 365 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: in the very hyped up MVP on MVP voter violence matchup, 366 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: rumble wwe whatever you want to call it. Was supposed 367 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: to happen between Ebide and Yogi when the Sixers came 368 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: to visit the Nuggets and sat with a calf injury. 369 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: What did you make of that when you heard that 370 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't playing, especially since he had played the last 371 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: couple of games, but he has been dealing with a 372 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: legit injury. It's a little bit tough to know where 373 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: to put your feelings on this boogie. I don't feel 374 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: any type of way about it. We've seen the matchup, Uh, 375 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: we've seen the results of it. Just dropped fifty on 376 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: them not too long ago. To keep pushing this narrative, 377 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: and obviously I understand it's an MVP race, but it's 378 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: a it's a long term goal, which is winning the 379 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: championship for seventy sixers and then we're focused on a 380 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, individual award and in a single game in 381 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: regular season, and I don't think everybody's on the same 382 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: page in an organization, so I think I think this 383 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: was the perfect move. Obviously it sucks for the fans 384 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: and for the watch and for the viewers and watches 385 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: of the game, but it's a it's a long term 386 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: goal here, and you got to make sure the big 387 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: fella is healthy, and we just got to stop looking 388 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: for excuses to you know, bass Joe well and praise 389 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: not give it to great right, Let's let's respect that part. 390 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: And when it comes to the two players, for me, 391 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to even compare. And the reason I say 392 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: that is it's I view Yoka Jazz, you know, on 393 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Lebron type. He's an all around player. He gets everybody involved, 394 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, things of that nature, and he's great at 395 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: And then I view Joel, you know, as a more 396 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: of a killer Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant type. He can 397 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: dominate the game with his feelings and keep the defense 398 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: on the heels and entire game. And it's just a 399 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: whole different type of dynamic and plan styt that he 400 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: comes with. They're both great and all right, and I 401 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: think both guys should just be credited for their greatness 402 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and not compared. And you know, the whole toxic conversation 403 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: that's going around, I hate it. So just get these 404 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: guys that flowers into vision. Hm. I agree. Um, I 405 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: think you know, although we would love to see the matchup, Um, 406 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: that would have happened Monday night. You know, when you 407 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: look at their head to head record and beat his 408 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: five and two against the Joker very is beating them 409 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: in every statistical category except assists. Obviously, that's a you know, 410 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Joker can go down as one of the greatest passing 411 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: big men we've ever seen. And also on the flip side, 412 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know back to back MVPs, but 413 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: I don't feel like for some reason, Joker gets the 414 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: heat that other guys that have won MVPs gets, Like 415 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: when does his team have to win a championship for 416 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: his you know, MVPs to be validated, you know what 417 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean. You see a lot of people who are 418 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: on the clock. They need to win this, they need 419 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: to win that. But then I don't hear no one 420 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: talking about the two time, possibly three time. Maybe the 421 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: MVP's team needs to win. And granted, Rachel, we've talked 422 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: about before, injuries play a big part. You know, obviously 423 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: your team has to be together. But at the same time, 424 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this man is the MVP of the league, 425 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: so I think it'll be interesting. I think Joel obviously 426 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: made a statement the last time they played. We would 427 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: have loved to get a chance to see this time 428 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: because they only get a chance to play each other 429 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: twice a year because they're in different conferences. But you know, 430 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: if we're looking at it right now, I got Embat 431 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: as my MVP. I don't get a vote because I 432 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: guess I get in too much trouble outside the studio still, 433 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: but I would make embiid, you know, my MVP, and 434 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: I think obviously Jannis and Joker right in that mix 435 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, do you guys you tell me 436 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: there are player's code about Hey, you know, you don't 437 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: miss games like that if you're you know, limping in 438 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: on one leg, you got to show up. Or is 439 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: it more of a time where it's like, hey, that's 440 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: not smart when you're about to try to make a 441 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: playoff push to play if you're not feeling well. Well, 442 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: I think it's different, you know, I think the times 443 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: of change. I think, you know, the first part you put, 444 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe back when early two thousands when I 445 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: came in the league, or maybe when Boogie first came 446 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: in the league. You try to play through little nagging stuff. 447 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: But I really feel like, you know, Philly feels like, 448 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, they've been playing some good basketball and they 449 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: have a chance to represent the Eastern Conference. So if 450 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: it is something that they feel is nagging and they 451 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: want to heal, I don't know if sitting out one 452 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: game is going to do that. But you know, with 453 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: someone like Embiid, I would err on the side of 454 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: car you know, although you know the MVP is a 455 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: tremendous you know, Accolade, I think the goal like Bookie said, 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: hasn't win a championship, so you don't want to risk 457 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: that for an individual award. So I mean, we'll see 458 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: how it plays that if he comes back and plays 459 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: the next game. I would have been like, hey, you know, 460 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: maybe you could have sat out one of the other 461 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: games and played this game. But who are we to 462 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: judge all that shit? I mean, I don't have a 463 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: problem with sort of the number of miss games overall, 464 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: which is the other thing that got brought up a 465 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: lot in the wake of him not playing this game. 466 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: It was his fourteenth miss game of the season. There's 467 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: only one player in NBA history who's missed more than 468 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: twelve and still won the MVP. That was Bill Walton 469 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: in the seventy eight season. He missed twenty four games. 470 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: But to me, that issue he's played enough. To me, 471 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: Joel has played enough that I have seen what he 472 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: can do this season. It's a different time. As you 473 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: point out, guys miss games more often, and his body 474 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: type and sort of playing the position he plays, I 475 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: think he's gonna miss a little bit more games more often. 476 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: To me, it's has he played enough games that I 477 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: can see who he is this season? And I can 478 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: judge whether he is the MVP or not. Do you 479 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: guys put a lot of stocking games played when we 480 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: get to this level. I do. I do put a 481 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: lot of stock, But I don't think he's missed like 482 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: like twenty four games. That's a lot. I mean, I 483 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: would be like, damn, you won the VP if you 484 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: missed twenty four games, but you know, to miss twelve 485 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: fourteen games out of eighty two, where it say he 486 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: even misses a game or two, you know, coming into 487 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: to the closing line, I don't think that's you know, 488 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: enough to to to rule him out because you know, again, 489 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: when he plays, and he's played a lot this year, 490 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: we already know what he's gonna give you. I agree, Um, 491 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: obviously it's not some crazy number where it's a drastic difference, 492 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: but you know, twelve missing games is anything in my opinion, 493 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: So that's not enough for me to say I don't 494 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: think he deserves an award. So yeah, no, I'm not 495 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going with that notion either. We got another guy, 496 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: big star missing games, but this one might be for 497 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: different reason. Damian Lillard set out his third straight game 498 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: Monday night. Now Blazer's lost to the Pelicans, they're in 499 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: thirteenth place. He's out with also calf tightness. Only eight 500 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: games left in the season for them, and it's possible 501 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: we don't see Dame the rest of this season, right 502 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: if they're already in thirteenth. We just talked about how 503 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: many teams we're trying to elbow into the West into 504 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: those final spots, and maybe Portland decides, Okay, we're going 505 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: to go for the lottery. But does shutting Dame down 506 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: for the season mean, I don't know, Matt, do you 507 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: think that we are not going to see Damian Lillard 508 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: in the Blazer's uniform again? Because the talk is up 509 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: now that there might be looking for a deal for 510 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: him this summer. I hope we don't see Damian Lillard 511 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: in a Portland Trail Blazer's uniform no more. And obviously 512 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: that's no knock on him. I just you know, as 513 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: loyal as he is, he's loyal people of Portland, and 514 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: you've got to respect that. But Rachel, I think the 515 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: only way Dame leaves Portland as if they quote unquote 516 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: make him leave, you know what I mean, if they 517 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: understand they're going to be in a rebuild and we 518 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: understand that he's at the point of his career where 519 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to rebuild. I think if Portland almost 520 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: forces him out, you know, obviously they'll use much different 521 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: wording than I'm using, but I think Portland's going to 522 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: have to push him out to get him to leave. 523 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: I don't think if you leave it up to him, 524 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: that he's going to leave at this point, But for 525 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: his sake, I would love to see him leave. He's 526 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: still only thirty two years old, having a career year 527 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: at thirty two averaging thirty two points. I would just 528 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: love to see him have a real, real chance at winning, 529 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: and Portland hasn't given him that. I think their best 530 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: teams were the team to kept running into that Warrior's team, 531 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: that Warrior dynasty. I think Portland was a really good team, 532 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: and they kept running into that dynasty that the Golden 533 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: State had, so their their greatness ran into the warriors greatness, 534 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: and obviously the Warrior's greatness prevailed. So I think the 535 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: ship is sailed for any kind of greatness going on 536 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: in Portland, and I would love to see Dame leave 537 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: him if that means Portland has to kick him out 538 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the door. Do you think we see Dame play for 539 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: the Blazers again. Here, I'm a Matt please No, Um, 540 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: it's just time, man. They're not really doing anything for 541 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: him roster wise, They're not getting any you know, help 542 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: for the guy. Uh, it's ran his course. I think 543 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: Dame is you know, proving his point on you know, 544 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: his morals and what he stands on. He's a big 545 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: time loyalty guy and I'm cut from that same class, 546 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: so I'm appreciative of that. But at this point, it's 547 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: a legacy. It's about you know, your name, all the 548 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: bloods until you put in and you deserve at least 549 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play for the big you know, the 550 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: bigger picture. Um, I think it's some teams that could 551 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: take them on right now when he could literally you know, 552 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: make them a contender. So yeah, it's it's it's definitely time. 553 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's overdue. Who are those teams in your opinion? 554 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Ain't that popped out to me right away? It's Miami 555 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: heat Um you put him with you know, Jimmy Butler 556 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: and Bam. I think I think they got a chance 557 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: to dominate the East and uh and come out with 558 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: a chance you know, to contend, so Miami six out. Obviously, 559 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: the Lakers are always in that conversation. Um, if there's 560 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: any way to you know, pair him with Lebron and 561 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: half in your days, you have to do it. But 562 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: I can also see that trade, you know, breaking up 563 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: that tandem as well. So um, you know, obviously the 564 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Clippers are in that conversation as well. They got the 565 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: losses that they could move to make that happen. But um, ye, 566 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: as far as Portland, it's it's overdue. Well, he's got 567 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: a really big salary, so that's going to be a 568 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: factor about where he could end up. Although I always 569 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: say that if a team wants to get someone, they 570 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: can figure out a way to get them. I'd love 571 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: to see him in the garden Personally, I think that 572 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: dam in the Knick's uniform would be pretty out of hand. 573 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: But it's hard because you talk about the relationship between 574 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: the city of Portland and the way he has been 575 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: with that town and the loyalty in both directions there 576 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: by the way, I mean the fans there adore him. 577 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: It is a two way street there, and so it 578 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: is uncomfortable to talk about the idea that that partnership 579 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: might break up. I think Dame has been so smart 580 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: in the way he's talked about that loyalty that you're 581 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: referring to Boogie, and he said, look, I don't want 582 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: to go chase championships because ay, that's not how I'm 583 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: built and be a lot of the guys that have 584 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: done that, that have left to sort of beyond what 585 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: they thought was going to be a title team. It 586 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. We just talked about how things fell 587 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: apart in Brooklyn. There's been a lot of teams where 588 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: guys thought that they were joining a super team and 589 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't play out that way. So he doesn't want 590 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: to make that kind of move. That being said, there's 591 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: a big difference between I'm not just chasing every shiny 592 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: car that goes by, and there might be a better 593 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: situation for him and the Blazers might decide there's a 594 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: better situation for both sides this summer, I just can't 595 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: believe that, you know, if happens, it's going to happen 596 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of like this with a whimper. It's a bummer. 597 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: It's a bummer that he's not able to go out 598 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: fighting if this is in fact his final day is important, 599 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: are very We'll see, we will see, all right, I 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: gotta answer our legendary moments presented by top Shot Playoffs 601 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: are approaching. Best moments of the NBA Playoffs can be 602 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: collected and traded as a limited edition and officially licensed 603 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: highlights created in partnership with the NBA. These are called moments. 604 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: So my question to you guys is which NBA player 605 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: had the most legendary performance in the NBA Finals. And look, 606 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: they've got six options, six moments. They've got lebron A, 607 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: d Steph, Clay, Jannis, and Drew. Do you guys have 608 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: one of those guys where you say, this is the 609 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: moment that stands out for me for one of these guys. 610 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: We're about you, Matt, I would say Drew Holiday Steele 611 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: in the finals, who do you get book or a CP? 612 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: He took it from one of them and went down 613 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and through that lab. That's what I knew, although I 614 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: think it was the only Game five or Game six 615 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: that I thought Milwaukee was gonna That was just such 616 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: a big play. So yeah, that for me, that was 617 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: a Drew Holiday. Nice. What about you, body, I'm wrong 618 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: with the same play. That's just that's that's a prime 619 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: example the championship basketball playing both ends. Yep, I don't 620 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: think it's a better example of it. I gotta go 621 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: with the same moment. I love it. There's so many 622 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: good stuff there on the top Shot site. You can 623 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: go collect your NBA Top Shot moments today at top 624 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: shot dot com. Get closer than ever to the game 625 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: and the players you love. Sign up today. All right, guys, 626 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: a little on the radar presented by DraftKings. What was 627 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: one seemingly an award that Jaren Jackson Junior was running 628 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: away with. We had a new contender emerging in brook Lopez. 629 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: I want to look at the odds. Brook Lopez now 630 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: a minus two hundred for Defensive Player of the Year, 631 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: while JJJ has the second best odds he's plus one fifty. 632 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you what do you guys 633 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: think Memphis has the best defense in the West? Boy? 634 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Who would you take between those guys for Defensive Player 635 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm gonna go with the young feather. Uh. 636 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I like the culture that created Um he's a young 637 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: guy that's creating a name for himself there. Uh, they're 638 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: at the top of the mountain. Amongst a very heavily 639 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: talented West conference. Um, just to just to be able 640 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: to create a standard like that, and you know it's 641 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: heavy competition. I think that's incredible. Uh, it kind of 642 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me, you know, the okay se 643 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: vibes of that that young Russell Westbrout, Kevin Durant, James 644 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: Hart obviously not as talented, but just being able to 645 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: create something so special so early, you got it. So 646 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm fall I'm gonna go with Brook Lopez, I think, 647 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: and we talked before we got on air, the way 648 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: he's been able to adapt his game, uh, to survive 649 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: as long as he survived. I mean, this guy was 650 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: an All star center, uh, playing on the block, you know, 651 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: putting up monster numbers on the block, and he's been 652 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: able to check change his game to this current game 653 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: where he's one of the best shooting bigs and he 654 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: protects the middle and he's a great tandem with Jannis. 655 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: So that and him and his brother used to come 656 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: to our au presses when they're like seven or eight 657 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: years old and steal women's purses from under the bleachers 658 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: and get in trouble all the time. So I like 659 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: robbing and Brooke, because I've been knowing they've been little 660 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: menaces for a long time. We have to point out 661 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: they gave them back. This was not them like stealing 662 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: them away. They would move them around. They were little kids. 663 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: They were not thieves. Yeah no, no. Their older brother 664 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: played on my AU team and the little twins. It 665 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: was crazy. They were little twin boys and they were 666 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: just climbing up walls and things they used to do 667 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: is they used to like take purses from underneath the 668 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: bleachers and just do all kinds of wild little shit. 669 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: So from that too, you know, hopefully a defensive Player 670 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: of the Year. You know, my pick is is Brook Lopeck. 671 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: I can't imagine two twin boys causing trouble and a 672 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: basketball environment, Matt Barns. I don't know. I can, I can. 673 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: I can trust me. That's why that's why I have 674 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: They have a special place in my heart that here 675 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: every day right right. But if you see Matt's twins play, 676 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, way better than their pot exactly exactly. That's 677 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: the mastery. You just make sure you have your seat 678 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: belt on your car right now, Sophy, first, come on 679 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: listen travel show, Matt. We're gonna talk to some Jaylen 680 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Brown before I let you, guys go. Um, if Jalen 681 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: Land's one of the fifteen All NBA slots coming up 682 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: being voted on by a panel of a hundred sports 683 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: writers and broadcasters at the end of the regular season, 684 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: he will be eligible to sign a five year, two 685 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety million dollars Supermax extension with the Celtics 686 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: this summer. Um Been does some discussion in the media 687 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: about Jab's future with the Celtics. Um, guys, look, Boogie, 688 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: you were in this situation in Sacramento before the trade. 689 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: Is such a strange position to be in, knowing that 690 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: you have to make All NBA and that the bunch 691 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: of sportswriters are the ones who decided. What is that 692 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: like as a player to know that that this is 693 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: how this works right now in the NBA? And what 694 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: do you think of the system? I think it's a 695 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: bullshit system, um, and some bullshit media members as well. Um, 696 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: And I can say that from a personal standpoint, Uh, 697 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: it's about basketball. It's about how you perform on the floor. Uh. 698 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: In my mind, I look at it as you know, 699 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: you gotta kiss a little ass just to you know, 700 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: get what you're looking for out of this when it 701 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that way. So I'm looking for more of 702 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: a criteria or more of a standard to you know, 703 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: what it takes to get these accolades and the team 704 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: that's done. So, um, I'm not a fan of what's 705 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: going on within the media anyway. So that's just my thing, Rachel. 706 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 1: With you being someone that has voted, have you voted 707 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: on that in the past? I have, and I'm going 708 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: to vote again this year. Are you aware of stuff 709 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: like this? Like? Hey, like obviously, once it kind of 710 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: starts floating, does that play into a decision amongst you 711 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: and some of them? There are two separate questions. Am 712 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: I aware of it? Yes? Does it play into the decision? Okay, 713 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: not for me? And look, by the way, as a voter, 714 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: as someone who's worked in this business for a long time, 715 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: there is no way, Boogie, that I'm going to defend 716 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: every media member out there, because of course, just like 717 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: with a group of players, just like with everything, some 718 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: of the people are crazy and some of the people 719 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: are very smart to know what they're doing. So um, 720 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: it's just like any other large group of people. I 721 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: will say, though, what I come back to every time 722 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: players have a problem with the way this is decided, 723 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: is who else do you want? Because we have seen 724 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is a perfect system. I just 725 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: don't know what the solution is. When players vote themselves 726 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 1: and we have who vote for the All Star Game, 727 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in a way that makes any sense. 728 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: You had Chet Holmgren, who hadn't played a game this 729 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: season get four All Star votes. You have guys who 730 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: are bench players on the team getting votes for All Star. 731 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: So when it comes to these kinds of awards and 732 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars on the line, I don't know 733 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: if you can drust players because they don't vote in 734 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: a way that has shown that they are actually voting 735 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: on any kind of criteria. And of course there's favoritism 736 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: and grudges. I mean, if Pat Beverley had to vote 737 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: on whether Russell Westbrook got an award, I mean, how 738 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: would that go? Right? So I don't think the players 739 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: can vote. The coaches obviously have even deeper relationships, ties 740 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: and allegiances than any media member. Might you say you've 741 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: got to kiss a little ass to get some media 742 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: to vote for you? Obviously a player coach relationship. I mean, 743 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things going on there where the 744 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: voting would not be kosher. So I just I don't 745 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: know what the solution should be. Matt, Do you have 746 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: a solution for what to do here? No? But I 747 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: just also think, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. 748 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 1: Jathon Brown to me, is one of the best two 749 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: guards in the NBA. He plays both sides of the ball, 750 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: and I think he deserves a SUPERMAX. And I don't 751 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: think that people should have to vote on that for 752 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: him to get that. I think his play has proven 753 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: that he deserves that. So I agree with you, Rachel. 754 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: To me, there's no other logical way to get an 755 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: All NBA team. I mean, I was gonna say, we 756 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: need to get some of the older players, maybe some 757 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, but some of them, dudes are old haters, 758 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So that may not work either. 759 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: So there is there is no perfect system. But I 760 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: agree with Boogie from a standpoint of just as Boogie did, 761 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: he played himself into that max and then unfortunately got hurt. 762 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like Jadon Brown has proven itself to 763 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: be a top player in this league, and he should 764 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,959 Speaker 1: get that money, and I don't think it should hinge 765 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: on whether or not he makes one of the top 766 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: three all NBA teams. I mean, that's something that the 767 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: owners in the Players Association could easily just make happen, 768 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: is say that post season awards, whether it's all MBA, 769 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: whether it's MVP, that they don't count as part of 770 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: contract incentives. If they wanted to just erase the media's 771 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: role in this kind of thing and the money kind 772 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: of aspect of it, they could do that in the 773 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: next CBA. They're negotiating a CBA right now, so I 774 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: don't know if there's been any discussion about that. I 775 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's a perfect system at all. I do 776 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: think that Jaylen Brown, though, has earned his way into 777 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: that spot. And I might think that whether there's money 778 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: on the line or not, you know what I mean. 779 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: Last year there wasn't one in the line. The year before, 780 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: there wasn't this kind of money on the line. So 781 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: he's gotten votes at different times for all kinds of reasons. 782 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: It's just this time there's a very high, high, high 783 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: dollar mountain attached to it. We'll have to see what 784 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: happens there. I wanted to get through a couple other 785 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: quick things. This is a couple of weeks ago, but 786 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to wait until you guys were both here. 787 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: The Athletic ran a poll of players who were I 788 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: think former players recently retired, and part of the idea 789 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: was what would you do differently in your professional career 790 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: if you could play in the current era. And obviously 791 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm talking to two guys who are very close to 792 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: the current side of the game. But yeah, expect to 793 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: see you back on the floor next season, so you're 794 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: unique ability to be able to speak to this What 795 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: would you do right now? What's the most important? And 796 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: some of their things are work harder, or train smarter, 797 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: shoot more threes, be more careful with my money, take 798 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: the game more seriously. Any of those options do you 799 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: think would hit you? Mett, No, because I did all 800 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: those things. I would say I would just not cuss 801 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: at the ref s. All right, there we go. I 802 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: think that gave me obviously a bad reputation because I 803 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: played hard. I worked hard, I knew what my role was, 804 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: I executed my role. So if I were to come back, 805 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: I would have other people cuss the refs out on me. 806 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: But what about you as you head back to an 807 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: NBA court, Well, it would have been more so along 808 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: those lines. Are as far as being professional and all 809 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: those things, I think I did that to the best 810 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: of my delity. But there's some relationships I wish I 811 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: could you know, uh change or work on in a 812 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: different way or approaching a different way, and maybe more 813 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: so reactions for me. Uh. But as far as anything 814 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: to do with the game, I think I did that 815 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: at a high level. Well, ten percent of the guys 816 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: surveys say I would do nothing differently, So you gotta 817 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: respect that two percent, said stretch More so, I thought 818 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: that was pretty good. Also, did anyone did anyone say 819 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: stopped cussing the refs out? Or is that just I 820 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: believe that's just you? Here you go for real. We 821 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: also had a few weeks ago the Clippers revealed that 822 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: their playing was struck by lightning. Do you guys remember 823 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: that story for earlier this month? And it just made 824 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: me want to ask, did you have any close call 825 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: travel stories? We're gambling on the Clipper team plane and 826 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: I lost like a sixty forty or sixty thousand dollars 827 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: pot on some bullshit. I think CPN Blake cheated me. 828 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: So I punched the window and I broke. Luckily it's 829 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: two layers, but I broke the first window. Are you serious, 830 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: like a big ass scar. Yeah, a big ass scard 831 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: still to this day, that was leaking everywhere. But luckily 832 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: it's a double pain window, or we would have probably 833 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: went down. I punched that thing hard because they definitely 834 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: slide of the eye. Someone kicked me in my leg 835 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: and the next thing I know, I'm losing when I 836 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: had an impossible hand to lose. So we talked about 837 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: that on JJ Reddick's podcast season when I actually brought 838 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: it up because I forgot about it. But yeah, we 839 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: were gambling a big money hand one time and I 840 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: lost and I punched the window just out of instinct. 841 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: And luckily it was a double pain window. First of all, 842 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be unbreakable glass. You know that, right? Yeah? 843 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: Not with these fists. Though. How much money did you lose? 844 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it was they didn't find me for the window. 845 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: I like, I don't know. On the hand, yeah, I remember, 846 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: it feels forty. It was like a forty or sixty 847 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars hands I was pissed. I wanted to fuck 848 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: up Blake or CP. I don't know one of them 849 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: cheating me. I don't remember who was dealing at the time, 850 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: but they got me these accusations back parts I have. 851 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: It was one All Star break. I was flying to 852 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: see my wife now, but at the time my girlfriend 853 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: she was in school. So I flew down after a 854 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: game in New York. We played at the Garden that night. 855 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: It's a crazy after the game, so I rented this PJ. 856 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: I literally flew flew to Montgomery, Alabama by myself during 857 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: this blizzard, and it was like the most terrifying experience 858 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. I couldn't see anything 859 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: outside the plane. It felt like it was just about 860 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: to fall out of the sky like it was right. 861 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: The turbulence was crazy. It was it was. It was 862 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: definitely a moment where I thought her to you know, 863 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: pray to God and just be like, man, just I 864 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: changed everything in my life. You just getting me out 865 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: of this moment. So I think I think that was 866 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: the moment for me. Hey, what you won't do for love? 867 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: Don't PODC have a song? What you won't do it? 868 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you got on the plane for her. 869 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: I know that's crazy, right, that should be a free pass. 870 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Baby, almost cost my life coming. 871 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right man. I love you girl. Well, 872 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: don't don't get into any freak snowstorms in your current 873 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: car travel sign. We've been honored to be with you 874 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: on this journey. What's Burning Friends Available every week on 875 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok Show Basketball. See 876 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: y'all next week. M HM.