Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Welcome back Man, Round two at Urban Roots
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings Training Camp Takeover Day two. Stack is taking
Speaker 1: it easy on the stack of kittens. Last time we
Speaker 1: did this ship with Jay will he almost couldn't talk,
Speaker 1: but they were here. They missed what you just said.
Speaker 1: What's that stack? Oh yeah, the beers name stack of kids.
Speaker 1: But again, man, thank you Urban Roots, Thank you Sacramento
Speaker 1: for coming out. We're excited. You know, me, being a
Speaker 1: hometown guy, I always want to try to bring events
Speaker 1: and experiences back to Sacramento. We brought Jason Williams back
Speaker 1: during the playoff. We got Mike here to start the season.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back here before the playoffs again with
Speaker 1: a special guest. So thank you guys for coming out tonight.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Yeah, you're go ahead and give yourself
Speaker 1: on the blogs. Yeah you're here, you're yeah. Man. Well
Speaker 1: let's get started. Man, this is a good friend of
Speaker 1: both of ours. We go back. Mike and I played together.
Speaker 1: Stack and Mike kind of grew up together, so that
Speaker 1: we know this is gonna be a good one, a
Speaker 1: fun one. Mike's not someone that talks much, but he
Speaker 1: gonna talk to us today. Mike is a little shy.
Speaker 1: He want to ask shy, but today we're gonna get
Speaker 1: it up out of Welcome to the show today, Mike Bibby,
Speaker 1: Thank you so Mike. Long career, but particularly the Sacramento
Speaker 1: run to me was one of your greatest runs as
Speaker 1: a professional athlete. You hit game winners, you help lead
Speaker 1: this team to the Western Conference finals. What does it
Speaker 1: mean for you to be back in Sack.
Speaker 2: It's always special coming back here. You know our family
Speaker 2: friends I've had here for over twenty five years. Good
Speaker 2: to show that everybody shows me love every time to
Speaker 2: come here, and it's just good to be back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what are you up to these days? I
Speaker 1: know your son is playing whop, You're in a little
Speaker 1: bit of coaching. What's Mike Bibby's day to day like
Speaker 1: these days? Besides in the gym because I can tell
Speaker 1: you've been in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I just joined Matt so I'll be with a man
Speaker 2: on the NBC Sports.
Speaker 1: That was a secret. So, yeah, Mike is gonna be
Speaker 1: calling Kings games. He I wasn't supposed to say now,
Speaker 1: but he said.
Speaker 2: So I'm joining Matt there, but you know, I'm still
Speaker 2: you know, my son's trying to get in the G league.
Speaker 2: You know, so I got three girls still trying to
Speaker 2: bring them up the right way, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to get him playing, and you know, trying
Speaker 2: to see if this could propel me in the coaching
Speaker 2: coaching situation too.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you spoke to your family. Obviously very
Speaker 1: family orienteded. You got your brother, your brother Dane. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call Day up later in the show so he
Speaker 1: could share his haircare secrets. But how important is family
Speaker 1: to you? I mean, I know how important your mom is,
Speaker 1: but your brother, you have such a great support system,
Speaker 1: And how important was that to you? And your not
Speaker 1: only is developing as a man, but you're your basketball
Speaker 1: journey as well.
Speaker 2: It was great for me, you know, I mean I
Speaker 2: still carry that with me. I got a you know,
Speaker 2: a block or my whole family lives on.
Speaker 1: That means he's rich. He bought a whole area in
Speaker 1: Arizona where his whole family.
Speaker 2: Lives to sack. But you know, my family's always came
Speaker 2: with me. Everybody went, and it's just being comfortable. I
Speaker 2: like to be comfortable, and you know, with them around,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's just it's just it's
Speaker 2: easier for me. I could be myself.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know our relationship. We've been
Speaker 3: knowing each other for shit thirty plus years. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: Live Launch twenty five something like that. But I'm glad
Speaker 3: I can start this started off talking about our relationship.
Speaker 3: So I had been through a situation where I was
Speaker 3: supposed to get into Arizona, where Mike went.
Speaker 1: We came out of high school. We had the number
Speaker 1: of recruit class that year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had knew each other from paying high
Speaker 3: school and AU and all that type of stuff. But
Speaker 3: McDonald's game, and around that time we had became real close,
Speaker 3: and I was supposed to go to Arizona. So I
Speaker 3: couldn't pass the test if I didn't take the test.
Speaker 3: Half the time, I didn't even go.
Speaker 1: Uh, just to be honest, hold on, hold on, because
Speaker 1: let's let's let's be real. This this this this show today.
Speaker 1: So you was telling you and Dane was telling us
Speaker 1: how they were setting the tests up for you and
Speaker 1: you're supposed to take the test and they had a
Speaker 1: special testing situation for you, and how come you didn't
Speaker 1: make the test? Yeah? Well, one, thank you Dane probably
Speaker 1: was out to four or five in the morning. The
Speaker 1: test was at eight.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, it's been and that was just one time.
Speaker 3: There's been times where I've seen Mike and I'm going
Speaker 3: up to him like how was the test, And I'm like.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the story. So, I mean it
Speaker 2: was you get four chances to take it. He's on
Speaker 2: his four chance. He failed the first three, so you know,
Speaker 2: I'm giving up, you know, kind of a pet right,
Speaker 2: come on, Steve, you gotta make us your last chance.
Speaker 1: You got his nick.
Speaker 2: I cal him in the afternoon, I said, what happened?
Speaker 2: He said, I didn't wake up. That was last It
Speaker 2: was his last chance to go. So he didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance. We didn't get a chance to play.
Speaker 3: But funny one is though they had it really they
Speaker 3: had it set up for me to take the test
Speaker 3: and some of the guy that was a minister of
Speaker 3: the test. Was my first time taking the test in
Speaker 3: a home, actually in the house. You normally take it
Speaker 3: like in the library.
Speaker 1: Or at school.
Speaker 3: So it was set up for me to take the
Speaker 3: test so you know I can get the test. Though
Speaker 3: I'm excited because I know I got this right. This
Speaker 3: is my name, I know how to spell list. I
Speaker 3: got this, I got on all right. Then I opened
Speaker 3: the test. You know, first question, I'm lost. So you know,
Speaker 3: I do what everybody else do. I ever could have
Speaker 3: my way all the way through, though, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I take the test, I slide it
Speaker 3: to him, you know, definitely feeling, not feeling confident. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I just slid it to him
Speaker 3: because I knew I felt and uh, he actually says
Speaker 3: to me, He's like, yeah, man, how did you do?
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't have any questions? You mean to
Speaker 3: tell me I'm supposed to ask him. If I would
Speaker 3: have known that, I probably would have had a national
Speaker 3: championship at Arizona because I would have asked him every question.
Speaker 1: I got every one of them right.
Speaker 3: But so, long story short, I ended up not being
Speaker 3: able to play, and where I'm from, I stayed in
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble in my hometown, and his mom
Speaker 3: seen something me in me that I didn't see in myself.
Speaker 3: She did not allow me to go back to my hometown.
Speaker 3: She made me stay with his brother and they took
Speaker 3: me working out. They had me working out and doing
Speaker 3: all these things. And she woke me up on money
Speaker 3: and took me to the Phoenix Sons practice facility. I
Speaker 3: had no idea why I was going there. I ended
Speaker 3: up trying out for the Phoenix Sons and ended up
Speaker 3: getting drafted because of his mom. So that's that's the
Speaker 3: relationship relationship that we had. Also, I got to tell
Speaker 3: this story too. His mom don't like me telling this story,
Speaker 3: but I got to tell listen too. Since I'm telling
Speaker 3: my story, everybody knows about the story about me calling
Speaker 3: my wedding off because the prenumber pre number wasn't signed.
Speaker 1: Well, I was heard about it, and I was crying
Speaker 1: and I was just had snot all kind of stuff
Speaker 1: coming out of my face. I'm sure that nose producing too.
Speaker 1: It was I probably needed a beach child. Yeah, okay, facts.
Speaker 3: And his mom came in the room, white Nott and
Speaker 3: my tears away with her bare hands and told me
Speaker 3: I became a man today and I never forget that,
Speaker 3: and I love her to depth.
Speaker 1: So shout Bill.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about you know, I was on the
Speaker 3: I was on campus the first semester of you being
Speaker 3: in Arizona.
Speaker 1: You wasn't in school though you were just chilling. I
Speaker 1: was working parl Arizona. I tell people I didn't take
Speaker 1: no trip because I played sports year round. But if
Speaker 1: I would have took the trip at Arizona, I probably
Speaker 1: would have went to Arizona, said the U c l A.
Speaker 1: So I know you was out there, Poppet, And I'm
Speaker 1: with Mike Dibbie too. Yeah, we were working out.
Speaker 2: I was in class. He was at home, you know,
Speaker 2: working out doing what Steve does.
Speaker 3: Yeh talk about though that that that not only Shadow
Speaker 3: Mountain because we didn't get a chance to talk about that,
Speaker 3: but being a star in high school. Like people don't
Speaker 3: know the star you was in high school and the
Speaker 3: numbers you were putting up in high school. You know,
Speaker 3: I've seen plenty of games when you play against guys
Speaker 3: like Shae Cotton, and a lot of these guys were
Speaker 3: talked about more than you, but you end the game
Speaker 3: with forty points. Talk about, you know, being that big
Speaker 3: in high school and still been able to succeed and
Speaker 3: make it to the top of bad in the NBA.
Speaker 2: It was tough because back then, no players really ever
Speaker 2: came out of Arizona. There wasn't that many, you know,
Speaker 2: they always went to either New York, Texas or California,
Speaker 2: and just to just to put Arizona the map. I
Speaker 2: think I kind of did because after that we have
Speaker 2: a lot of all Americans after that, as far as
Speaker 2: like Jared Baylists, Richard Jefferson, Channing, Chann and Fry when
Speaker 2: you go down the line. But it's just I love
Speaker 2: the game. You know, I've been around my whole life,
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, I never really thought
Speaker 2: of like like once college is started looking at me,
Speaker 2: I got my first letter, I'm like, damn, somebody like
Speaker 2: I'm getting recruited, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 2: mean it's a good feeling and just just to come
Speaker 2: from Maryland. Like I said, they always tried to, you know,
Speaker 2: back then, they try to give the number one point
Speaker 2: guard to Sehean all the way because it's from New York.
Speaker 2: But they they can never give it to him because
Speaker 2: I kept, you know, I kept making my stock rise.
Speaker 2: So it's just a great feeling just to you know,
Speaker 2: I think, to put Arizon on the map and just
Speaker 2: you know, play with guys like you. I think we
Speaker 2: have probably one of the best classes you know in
Speaker 2: Donald's game.
Speaker 1: Name some of the people in that class.
Speaker 2: Just so people know, Kobe Bryant, Neil, Tim Toms, Steve,
Speaker 2: Richard Hamilton, Richard Hamilton, team Cleeve. I mean you could
Speaker 2: go all the way down the line. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: it was crazy, but I mean it was fun. They
Speaker 2: beat the ship out of us too. So they started
Speaker 2: the game this ain't gonna be This ain't gonna be fair.
Speaker 1: Who was on your team?
Speaker 2: I think I might have been Court Benjamin. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Their whole starting five came out of high school.
Speaker 1: Kobe, Tim Thomas, Richard Hamilton, San and uh Lauren Woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lauren Woods, Ye, la Woods.
Speaker 2: I could you know when they started the game off
Speaker 2: with it dunk like it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be a long day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean it was fun, you know, just
Speaker 2: to be around these guys. Like I said, I met
Speaker 2: Steve probably when we're in high school. Remember, was hanging
Speaker 2: out in Las Vegas tournament and we are high school
Speaker 2: beat Oak Hill if you believe it or I did.
Speaker 2: But uh, that's the first time he like really met
Speaker 2: and hung out. And you know when you say it
Speaker 2: was comeing to Arizona, like we're gonna do big things
Speaker 2: over there. Fast to tell I never got there. We
Speaker 2: never got a chance to see that though. But it
Speaker 2: was fun though. I mean it was funny, like you
Speaker 2: make you make relationships with the same thing with matd
Speaker 2: Like we played here. I didn't really know madd before,
Speaker 2: I mean playing here, but we played here, became really
Speaker 2: good friends and and it was just fine. You make
Speaker 2: you meet longtime friends and keep and they become family.
Speaker 3: So talk about Loudo being recruited by the great Ludolson
Speaker 3: and the pancakes that his wife used to make.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a fictional character like you like,
Speaker 2: like if you really don't know him, like you like,
Speaker 2: he was the biggest man in Tucson, Arizona. You know,
Speaker 2: was hero, was never messed up. What you can never
Speaker 2: tell kind of they had. It was just I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it's probably one of the greatest coaches all time.
Speaker 2: And I mean just the way that he coached us
Speaker 2: and let us play. And you know, you have a
Speaker 2: lot of coaches today that try to restrict kids and
Speaker 2: what they can and cannot do, and he just let
Speaker 2: us play. And I think that kind of blossom and
Speaker 2: the play in the tournament will kind of help me
Speaker 2: out of out of okay, freshman season and then when
Speaker 2: it got to the tournament, he told me put me
Speaker 2: in the rooms, like Mike, I need you to be you.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what. Okay, He's gonna let me
Speaker 2: do what I do. And that's when I kind of took.
Speaker 3: Off talk about why does Arizona Guards have so much success? You,
Speaker 3: Jason Terry, Gilbert, erena Is, Miles Simon, Iggy, Damon stout
Speaker 3: of mind.
Speaker 2: It's so many guys. Olson is that reason? And he
Speaker 2: just let you play. I mean he recruited you for
Speaker 2: a reason, you know, not like some cost recruit you.
Speaker 2: But you can't do the same thing you were doing
Speaker 2: when you were playing there. You know, he let us.
Speaker 3: He recruited us for that reason as a freshman. Uh
Speaker 3: win the championship. After the championship, what is your thoughts?
Speaker 3: I mean I was there, so I know what would
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: But on the road to the championship again, Mike's team
Speaker 1: was like subpar, right they needed it was heavy back then.
Speaker 1: I mean, they beat Paul Pierce in Kansas, they beat
Speaker 1: North Carolina with Vince Carter, Antoine Jamison, They be Kentucky
Speaker 1: with Ron Mercer and Derek in like it wasn't no cakewalk.
Speaker 1: Mike's team every round was the underdog. And once that
Speaker 1: light came on and Mike started being himself and putting
Speaker 1: the ball in the basket, this team went on a run.
Speaker 1: So what was that experience? Like?
Speaker 2: It was? It was crazy? Like I said, we were
Speaker 2: five hundred in the pack ten. We were hoping to
Speaker 2: get in, right, you know what I mean, Like we're
Speaker 2: watching the thing like hopefully, hopefully we get in and
Speaker 2: they gave us number four seed. We almost lost the
Speaker 2: first two games to College of Charleston in South Alabama,
Speaker 2: so we had we were down like half like towards
Speaker 2: gonna have. But then I think after that and we
Speaker 2: had none to lose, like no one really expected us
Speaker 2: to win after that, and so I think we just
Speaker 2: went in played like hy were supposed to play, and
Speaker 2: things fell the place.
Speaker 1: M h. So you win the national championship, you go
Speaker 1: back for your sophomore year, right, Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 2: It was good? I got Packed ten Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: People wanted me to leave after my freshman year, but
Speaker 2: I wasn't ready mentally or physically. I wasn't ready, And
Speaker 2: you know, I thought one more year would helping me.
Speaker 2: And then the year that I had I knew I
Speaker 2: was ready and it was it was time.
Speaker 1: So you end up being the number two selection by
Speaker 1: the Vancouver Grizzlies in the nineteen ninety eight draft, the
Speaker 1: lockout year, very deep draft class though, Vince Carter, Dirk
Speaker 1: and Whiskey Paul Pierce to name a few, any good
Speaker 1: pre draft store He's going up against anyone? Or who
Speaker 1: was gonna pick you? Or did you actually really tell
Speaker 1: Vancouver don't pick me? Like there's a lot of rumors
Speaker 1: going on out there about how did the draft process
Speaker 1: went down for you?
Speaker 2: It went, Uh, it was in Vancouver's the first year
Speaker 2: was in Vancouver. It was supposed to go. It was
Speaker 2: between me and Oliver Candy. Who was gonna go number one?
Speaker 1: I went? I went.
Speaker 2: I only worked out for the Clippers. I was the
Speaker 2: only team you worked out worked out by myself. Shot
Speaker 2: ran a little bit. It was bout for like a
Speaker 2: thirty min hour workout that gave me a bag like
Speaker 2: with all Clippers stuff. So I'm thinking, like the Clip's
Speaker 2: gonna pick me. I had pretty good workout. So we
Speaker 2: get there, We get to the draft and my agent,
Speaker 2: David Folk, want the best to do it. He's, you know,
Speaker 2: going back and forth. We don't know, they don't know
Speaker 2: who's gonna pick it. They don't wanna pick yet. So
Speaker 2: the day of the draft, I'm sitting at the table
Speaker 2: and he comes down and says, they're gonna take all
Speaker 2: the candy. Vancouver is gonna take you. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: nineteen years old. I don't really want.
Speaker 1: To be out the country.
Speaker 2: So I go upstairs. I talk to the general manager
Speaker 2: and the head coach and I tell him I'm not
Speaker 2: I remember this day like it was yesterday. I'm sitting
Speaker 2: with my mom. I'm looking out the windows, raining it's gloomy.
Speaker 2: I'm just like I just told him. I said, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to play here, and they were like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pick you anyway, So you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, but it was it was something I think
Speaker 2: that everything happens for a reason, I think, and for
Speaker 2: to get traded there. We had an owner named Michael
Speaker 2: Heisley Rest in Peace, and he gave me the top
Speaker 2: five places I want to go because they're going to
Speaker 2: move the team to Memphis, and give them top five places.
Speaker 2: You know, I named here. I named Phoenix. I named
Speaker 2: a few other places and and he said, well, where's
Speaker 2: the number one place you want to go? And I
Speaker 2: said Sacramento. And I mean there was nothing said. I mean,
Speaker 2: he didn't say anything to me after that. I remember
Speaker 2: I was in the gym working out. It was like
Speaker 2: one in the morning at home, and I got calls
Speaker 2: from people from here and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, this is after what your second year, say, three
Speaker 1: years of Vancouver.
Speaker 2: And so my brother gets a call, my brother World WI.
Speaker 2: So he gets a call it, he gets a call.
Speaker 2: He's like, you just got traded to the Kings. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: shit when somebody who called me? So I go out
Speaker 2: to my phone. I got a Vancouver number. That's always happens.
Speaker 2: You got a call from Vancouver, you get a call
Speaker 2: from Sacramento. And I was like, shit, it happened. And
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it was the best, the best
Speaker 2: then in my life.
Speaker 1: But I mean, this, let's take a step back, because
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, small town Sacramento, this is not normally
Speaker 1: a free agent destination. Guys don't really say I want
Speaker 1: to go to Sacramento. You know, they just don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: as much as I love it, but what drew you
Speaker 1: to sack. Obviously there was some talent here, But what
Speaker 1: drew you to sack when you would put them number
Speaker 1: one on your list?
Speaker 2: This excitement? You know, I get a shot at Jay
Speaker 2: will I saw Jay Will on here. I give him
Speaker 2: a shout out. Now, I didn't know how it was
Speaker 2: going to be coming in and replacing him. I don't
Speaker 2: know how the fans would take me or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: And they made like the team was crazy. I came in,
Speaker 2: they act like I've been there for ten years. It
Speaker 2: was just easy to fit in. And that's what the
Speaker 2: fans made it easy, and it just was comfortable for me.
Speaker 2: But I remember coming. What made me want to come
Speaker 2: to Sacramento is the excitement that that the fans and
Speaker 2: all that. But I remember in the Vancouver Brizzlies, no
Speaker 2: one comes to watch us play. So I remember it's
Speaker 2: the last game of the season and we play here
Speaker 2: and I'm looking around, like, fuck, it's it sold out?
Speaker 2: Like how we never played sold out in the games,
Speaker 2: you know, Like you watch our film and it's like
Speaker 2: people in there, you know what I mean, And I'm
Speaker 2: in there, like I would love to play in the
Speaker 2: environment like this every night.
Speaker 1: That's dope, And I mean that was the main thing.
Speaker 2: Should I want to go to Sacramento.
Speaker 1: So the interesting thing about this is obviously we had
Speaker 1: Jay will on the first live show here and he
Speaker 1: said something you normally don't hear athletes say. And he
Speaker 1: said something I'm paraphrasing, but something to the Sacramento made
Speaker 1: the right decision trading me for Mike Bibbie because when
Speaker 1: they traded for Mike, they got better. So what does
Speaker 1: that mean to you? Like you said, you're kind of
Speaker 1: worried about how am I going to feel these shoes
Speaker 1: or how are they going to take me? And the
Speaker 1: guy you know twenty years later, twenty plus years later,
Speaker 1: the guy you're traded for, like said, Hey, the team
Speaker 1: made the right move because you made that team better.
Speaker 2: I love j will Man. We played in the TVT
Speaker 2: the first year the tv T came out. We ended
Speaker 2: up playing on the same team. But like I said,
Speaker 2: I get him a shout out to I think he
Speaker 2: brought the lotless sitement here to start the thing anyway,
Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm not that exciting player. You know,
Speaker 2: I played very old school and try to get the
Speaker 2: job done. And like I said, I know how it fit,
Speaker 2: but child j will making the team excitement, making the
Speaker 2: place for people wanting to be.
Speaker 1: So you were one of the OG members of Team Jordan.
Speaker 1: Take you back to nineteen ninety eight. You were a
Speaker 1: handpicked by Michael Jordan. When I tell you, this motherfucker
Speaker 1: outside of mj has the most Jordan's. Maybe Carmelo maybe,
Speaker 1: but Mike, and Mike has a pretty much a house
Speaker 1: full of Jordans. But tell me how that experience happened,
Speaker 1: how you became a Jordan member, and how you still
Speaker 1: be getting Jordan's to this day.
Speaker 2: It was so I come in the draft like that year.
Speaker 2: Everything was down, like the shoe contracts or everything was so.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of money. It was between well
Speaker 2: Puma kind of. It was Puma and Nike kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, the two main people. Who was Puma was
Speaker 2: gonna get me the most money, and they sent me
Speaker 2: a box in the sides twelve and a half. The
Speaker 2: sho would look like the shoe was like that long.
Speaker 2: I said, I can't, I can't where it is. And
Speaker 2: it was like all fluorescent color and stuff back then,
Speaker 2: you know fluorescents.
Speaker 1: In that I wasn't in because back in the day
Speaker 1: it was you had to wear your team colored pretty much,
Speaker 1: especially in the NBA.
Speaker 2: And it was soccer. Puma was mostly soccer back then.
Speaker 2: And so after that I told I told my agent,
Speaker 2: I said, I can't tell you. I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: wear a pooma can't And then.
Speaker 1: That ship hop ro it's fresh brot.
Speaker 2: I was saying, oh, pool Man, Okay. Then so my agent,
Speaker 2: my agent was David Fall, so he had Michael Jordan too, so.
Speaker 1: I look, but also not to cut you off, he
Speaker 1: had Michael Jordans, Allen Iverson Patrick, all the big time guys.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of me and Elton Brawner his
Speaker 2: last two people he had. So he was like, we
Speaker 2: would you want to go with Jordans? Would you want
Speaker 2: to wear Jordan's fucking right? Okay? So he called and
Speaker 2: made you know, they guy the contract right then. It's
Speaker 2: been been like that ever since.
Speaker 1: But you got like some guys get like the Team
Speaker 1: Jordan ship. And I'm not a well of all to
Speaker 1: respect m JP end up hearing this, I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of us, but you had like.
Speaker 2: No one is.
Speaker 1: You had like you were one of the athletes. Though.
Speaker 1: That got to remake and recolor scheme like the Jordan
Speaker 1: Jordans that everybody loves.
Speaker 2: But you know what happened. It was at that time
Speaker 2: they were they were doing that. They were there was
Speaker 2: there wasn't that many of us, so were they were
Speaker 2: able to get all the retros and do all that
Speaker 2: stuff for people. So now that he has so many
Speaker 2: people now it'd be hard to put everybody in retros.
Speaker 2: And like you said, the retro cell on his own.
Speaker 2: They don't need us to market the retros in order
Speaker 2: to sell, so they'll put us in those other shoes
Speaker 2: to market those for other people to see us playing
Speaker 2: on them and for them to like to play in it.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you got the retros. So you try
Speaker 1: to get Stack in Arizona thanks to Dane. That didn't work.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. So we got another story though, So you
Speaker 1: try to get miked Vancoux. Are you trying to get
Speaker 1: Stacked to Vancouver with you? So you're in the mix.
Speaker 1: Stack gets So Stack you got drafted second round. It
Speaker 1: didn't work. You went and did some overseas stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did, won championships there too. Okay, you might have
Speaker 1: some kids over there. Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll meet them one day. So from there, again, Mike,
Speaker 1: being the guy he was, Mike tried to get stack
Speaker 1: of Vancouver and tell these because this is the first
Speaker 1: time we were chilling yesterday and I was hearing these stories.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, so tell the story how you got
Speaker 1: him to three different training camps.
Speaker 2: You look, look at how many years do you play?
Speaker 2: Steve fifteen fourteen, So you play fourteen years.
Speaker 1: So like I should have played seven eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're losing franchise. You know, my second year,
Speaker 2: Steven a tryout for the team. I mean, it's that's
Speaker 2: spirit political. This this whole basketball stuff is political, and
Speaker 2: I mean I can't remember how the first one kind
Speaker 2: of went, but they cut him. So he comes back
Speaker 2: the next year and get him again.
Speaker 1: This is Vancouver. Now, Vancouver have much so he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been cutting the real.
Speaker 2: One one about one about forty some games in three
Speaker 2: years in Vancouver, So do the man, Yeah, one game
Speaker 2: out of fifty season. So so I mean I get
Speaker 2: him there for the third year. I mean he's killing defensively, offensively,
Speaker 2: he's talking ship, he's being gangster out there and all
Speaker 2: the type of ship.
Speaker 1: Something I'm trying to wrong. Go ahead, but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: But that's that's to Steve wrong. He must' ass talking ship.
Speaker 2: And the last last cut comes and I'm telling myself, said,
Speaker 2: there's no way they cut you this time. There can't be.
Speaker 2: There's no way. How much work you out there. And
Speaker 2: he comes back in and remember we're in the locker room,
Speaker 2: you qualking. He's like, they cut me. I said, you're lying,
Speaker 2: and he said, they come me, And so I don't
Speaker 2: know what you did. Some other stuff after that, but
Speaker 2: he ended up playing fourteen years, win championships, averaging whatever,
Speaker 2: and you get cut by a team that wins forty
Speaker 2: games in three years, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were weren't trying to win
Speaker 2: or what, but I don't know. But uh, it was
Speaker 2: just good. I mean, like people do that, people bringing
Speaker 2: people to give them chances. And I thought Steve had
Speaker 2: a pretty good, real good chance of making it. It
Speaker 2: was just it didn't work up. Like I said, everything
Speaker 2: happens for a reason and made him even hungrier. And
Speaker 2: I think he went on to build him how he
Speaker 2: used today.
Speaker 1: I want to rewind a little bit because I learned
Speaker 1: the story yesterday. I think you guys lived now speaking elements.
Speaker 1: So there was one year where my Stack and Dane
Speaker 1: went out there having a good time and Mike wasn't involved.
Speaker 1: Name I wasn't evolved. So there.
Speaker 2: I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Mike might have been evolved with tell us what happened
Speaker 1: that that that one evening in Vancouver, British Columbia.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just minding our business like we
Speaker 3: normally do, just minding our business. You know, we had
Speaker 3: a couple of beverages. You know, everybody had a couple
Speaker 3: of beverages, but somebody that was out there had more
Speaker 3: beverages than everybody else in the world, right, And he
Speaker 3: said some things to big brother.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have said, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: you know, Dane is a very understanding guy, very mild man,
Speaker 1: very mild man of guy. Nice hair. We don't even
Speaker 1: bring up his background. He's a nice guy, right, just
Speaker 1: look at this Caroline, this Caroline his hairtel he's a
Speaker 1: nice guy, right. He strong. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Even nice guys have, you know, get to the limit. Yes,
Speaker 4: and you know he just gave him a high five
Speaker 4: to the face. So It wasn't really a slap. It
Speaker 4: was just like a high five to the face.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And what did you do?
Speaker 1: Did you catch the guy? Did you help him up
Speaker 1: with what you do? I didn't know his reaction. I
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get up and swing, so I'm the
Speaker 1: whole closest thing to him was my foot. So my
Speaker 1: my leg just got jumping and kicking. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it happened. I was trying to grab my leg,
Speaker 1: but it's just not kicking it. And it ended up
Speaker 1: until the business is all while you were trying to
Speaker 1: make the grizzly. Yeah, that's probably why I got that
Speaker 1: again because he was hoopid. But come up to him.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. You know, you made Sacramento destination.
Speaker 1: So you ended up getting traded here. You and Brent
Speaker 1: Price were traded for Jason Williams and Nick Anderson.
Speaker 2: Brent Price and he was March.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark's brother was traded for you. J will and
Speaker 1: Nick Anderson was only one two parts of the trade.
Speaker 1: What was your first reaction coming here? Obviously you've seen
Speaker 1: the season before, the love, the fans, the energy, and
Speaker 1: Sacramento to me is second to none. You get traded here.
Speaker 1: First of all, what was your reaction? And then who
Speaker 1: some of your vets that you kind of leaned on
Speaker 1: because you're coming into your fourth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my fourth year, I was just I was surprised,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just couldn't. I was
Speaker 2: in disbelief. I coudn't believe it happened. But my thing
Speaker 2: was where I was playing. You know, back then, they
Speaker 2: played inside out, So you're throwing the post, stand over
Speaker 2: here and hopefully the ball will come back out to you.
Speaker 2: So I remember first day of practice, I passed it
Speaker 2: cut through and I looked up and the ball was
Speaker 2: hit me in the head. And I'm not used to
Speaker 2: I'm used to passing and going cut through and just
Speaker 2: go to the side and the ball hit me.
Speaker 1: So couch career rest in peace. Rights to coach.
Speaker 2: He was like, be right to be careful. You go through,
Speaker 2: it's going to hit you and hit you in the face.
Speaker 2: I said, I see that ship now. But it was
Speaker 2: just something that I wasn't used to. You know, I can't.
Speaker 2: I came here and got to play basketball again, you know,
Speaker 2: instead of just throwing the post that the two stars
Speaker 2: go to work and if they get in trouble, be
Speaker 2: the third fourth option, you know. So I mean just
Speaker 2: coming here, it was just it was life changing for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you guys arguably had to cut you off.
Speaker 1: Probably the best Sacramento teams to date. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: these young teams are trying to make a name for
Speaker 1: themselves and you know what Mike Brown is building out here.
Speaker 1: But your guys's teams in the early two thousands were
Speaker 1: the ship. So name some of the guys you had
Speaker 1: on that team and what kind of fun because obviously
Speaker 1: you guys were very entertaining, ball, moving forward, making plays.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody is out here shooting and doing things
Speaker 1: and to more to your style, But what kind of
Speaker 1: chemistry did that team have, because that's what I fell.
Speaker 1: So I was at UCLA during this time, you know,
Speaker 1: lifelong Laker fan, but then moving to Sacramento in nine
Speaker 1: years old, like you kind of get accustomed to, you know,
Speaker 1: the team. So I'm a big Laker. I'm a big
Speaker 1: Kings fan in college. So I'm out here trying to
Speaker 1: represent the Kings at UCLA. Almost getting a couple of
Speaker 1: real fights because motherfucker's talking to Fuck Sacramento. Fuck you
Speaker 1: fuck sacrament of fuck. Well, let's let's do this then,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm out here fighting
Speaker 1: for these motherfuckers while I'm in college. But what kind
Speaker 1: of chemistry did you guys develop one on the court,
Speaker 1: but second off the court? Because I know Web is
Speaker 1: one of your life along homies, you guys at page
Speaker 1: of V Lottie, Doug Black, Bobby Uh, you know coach
Speaker 1: Rick Adamman, like you guys had a squad.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is all those guys that were coming
Speaker 2: off the bench eventually went somewhere and starts yeah.
Speaker 1: Young hto Yeah, so Gerald Waller.
Speaker 2: So they always they used to be a lot in practice, the.
Speaker 1: Second team, I tell we tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: like you guys are started as I was a starter
Speaker 1: in coming off the bench. So the second team and
Speaker 1: back in the day in the NBA practice like it
Speaker 1: wasn't no like it is today. Come in, get some shots,
Speaker 1: walk through shit, and get out of here. Like we
Speaker 1: used to go to war with the first teams, and
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams that were really good. You
Speaker 1: asked some of the players, like the second teams were
Speaker 1: nice too. I used to them, h e m them
Speaker 1: used to as did me throw that out there? Go ahead? No,
Speaker 1: I was just saying how good the second team and
Speaker 1: how competitive those those early But.
Speaker 2: But the biggest thing was off the court, like you said,
Speaker 2: and I think v Lotti was a ring leader of that.
Speaker 2: It was never Is it true that Bloody smokes cigarettes
Speaker 2: at halftime? I seen him before again was it a Newports?
Speaker 2: So the thing the bathroom stalls this high as headid.
Speaker 2: So I go to use the bathroom. He's in there,
Speaker 2: Like I said, you're smoking a fucking cigarettes. And he
Speaker 2: just got it done real quick and just threw it
Speaker 2: out and went to warm up. But Lotti was the
Speaker 2: Bloody was I kind of like the ring leader of everything,
Speaker 2: made sure everything was cool calm. Of course, Web was
Speaker 2: the leader of the team. But off the court of Lotti,
Speaker 2: you never seen his demeanor change whether he scored two
Speaker 2: points or he scored thirty points. You always get the
Speaker 2: same blody no matter what. And I kind of looked
Speaker 2: up to that. You know, when I got traded to Atlanta,
Speaker 2: I kind of took that Lotty's and going into Atlanta,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I didn't want to go to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go to Cleveland. I was supposed
Speaker 2: to get trade to Cleveland that year or the year
Speaker 2: before too, and I end up going to Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of young guys, a real good team, but young, right,
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, where am I going to
Speaker 2: fit in on this team? And that's where I kind
Speaker 2: of fit in at taking Botty's role.
Speaker 1: Well, let's not you get hold on, you know, back
Speaker 1: up a little bit and get into some of this
Speaker 1: king ship before you just try to send yourself to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Year one, sixty one games, the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the West. You're cooking in the playoffs. Round one, you
Speaker 1: guys beat Utah and John Stockton. Round two, you guys
Speaker 1: beat Steve Nash and Dirk. What are some of the
Speaker 1: best memories, because in particularly, I mean you cooked all playoffs,
Speaker 1: but particularly I mean obviously hall of famer in John Stockton,
Speaker 1: hall of Famer and Steve Nash. What do you remember
Speaker 1: most about those first two rounds matching up against those
Speaker 1: legendary point guards where you were the better point guard
Speaker 1: in both matchups.
Speaker 2: I was nervous. Fuck, I was nervous now coming in
Speaker 2: That's the first time I ever been to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That why I used to bite your nails and shit,
Speaker 1: was that not always all your conduct sports and and
Speaker 1: cutting nails during the game. I'm like, what is this
Speaker 1: is when I start to pick and stuff when I
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean. So it's just I
Speaker 1: think playing Stockton in the first round, my first ever playoff,
Speaker 1: got me ready for the rest of the time. And
Speaker 1: when I first came here and my agent told me,
Speaker 1: like they already established, I don't need you to go
Speaker 1: in there and try to score twenty. I don't need
Speaker 1: to try to go and do this. Fit in, And
Speaker 1: that's why I came to fit in.
Speaker 2: You say, I was just I was just trying to
Speaker 2: fit in and play off these guys, and like I said,
Speaker 2: we're playing off the big men and now instead of
Speaker 2: you know, me making all the plays. So it was
Speaker 2: just I think playing Stockton and being you know, in
Speaker 2: our top environment got me ready for the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two Western Conference Finals arguably one of
Speaker 1: the most memorable finals in league history. You guys are
Speaker 1: up three two, win game five, you hit a game
Speaker 1: you hit the game winner in game five. I think
Speaker 1: it put us up one maybe, but they ended up
Speaker 1: winning the game.
Speaker 2: Walking through that play, I remember going out and I
Speaker 2: just told Webb the players for web to see you
Speaker 2: web to make a play and I told I told Webb,
Speaker 2: I said, well, if you don't shoot it, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: knock it down. You give it to me. And I
Speaker 2: just told him, I said, I knock it down to
Speaker 2: get me involved.
Speaker 1: So you came off the baseline, came off a pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that he threw. I threw it to him,
Speaker 2: he popped out, threw it, came off a handoff and
Speaker 2: you know, I shoot that shot all day million times sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I knew, like I expected to make it. I
Speaker 2: put the work in that when I missed, that's.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I mean, that's just that's what my mindset. I
Speaker 2: was strong mind, and my mindset was I put enough
Speaker 2: work in that I'm gonna knock these shots down.
Speaker 1: So it starts getting a little fuzzy. Game six where
Speaker 1: talked was about Game six. One ref that was in
Speaker 1: this series was arrested by the Way for cheating and
Speaker 1: this was a game that they definitely got cheated, but
Speaker 1: talked to us about the game. Also was a refinour
Speaker 1: series in Golden state. You got kicked out, that didn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember the night before, you know, I was
Speaker 2: in l a talking man ship.
Speaker 1: You're not really big ship talking. But I kind of
Speaker 1: find out like I used to watch, like when you
Speaker 1: played the Lakers, you had a little different swagger about
Speaker 1: you when you played.
Speaker 2: Like they made me like that. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: be like that. You know, you go to LA they
Speaker 2: talk shitty when you're walking down the court. You're standing there,
Speaker 2: mind your business, and they get you started. You know,
Speaker 2: they poke a sleeping beer. I'm just out there doing
Speaker 2: my job and they kind of wake up. I'd like
Speaker 2: playing there, you know what I mean. But the night
Speaker 2: before the game, we had a guy named Chuckie Brown,
Speaker 2: you know, a fourteen year VET, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I said, shit, I'm talking, I'm talking ship. I'm on
Speaker 2: the red cars at the movie things. It's over radio stations,
Speaker 2: and you know, he tells me, like, be careful because
Speaker 2: it's it's not what it seems like bullshit in no way.
Speaker 2: And so I'm obviously you seen what happen in the game.
Speaker 2: But I mean, we were definitely the better team that year.
Speaker 2: I know that for sure, but I still can't I
Speaker 2: still can't watch I still can't watch the tip out
Speaker 2: and shot like I watched the highlights of it.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to that turning off, I mean,
Speaker 1: with all due respect to those Laker teams, because they
Speaker 1: were great, I mean I felt I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people felt like you were guys were the best
Speaker 1: team in the league. Obviously, the next round they walked
Speaker 1: through New Jersey, New Jersey with the sweep. Yeah, for us,
Speaker 1: swept the ship out of them. But I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys were the.
Speaker 2: Better team than them, guarantee. I mean I know that
Speaker 2: for a fact. You know, you could, you could you
Speaker 2: could see, you could you could see the look on
Speaker 2: their faces that you were it was over. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I mean it's just good
Speaker 2: to see, like basketball players know when you see that
Speaker 2: look of defeat. They had the look of defeat, and
Speaker 2: you could tell.
Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to any former Lakers about that?
Speaker 2: Hold on? What? Huh?
Speaker 1: What didn't make sense? Y'all was not the better team?
Speaker 1: Y'all lost? No the better team one stop it. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: Ain't no way, y'all. We shipped the bend in Game seven,
Speaker 2: but it shouldn't even went to Game seven. This might
Speaker 2: have been over. It should have been over in five.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all have that. So you guys were like,
Speaker 1: if I recall, like I said, I.
Speaker 2: We shout, we shout the free throw line.
Speaker 1: But you guys were like two for fifteen or two
Speaker 1: for three from three under fifty percent.
Speaker 2: From under fifty percent from the floor.
Speaker 1: You guys also went to the and also went to
Speaker 1: overtime though, right, yeah, you guys as bad as you
Speaker 1: guys played the show. Jelani was on that team. By
Speaker 1: the way, stop it. I'm gonna do that. Johnny was
Speaker 1: a the better team. Take your John.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't so I did have a
Speaker 1: good take us back though. Obviously the ball gets tipped out.
Speaker 1: Cod misses a shot, right, Coke takes Doug guards and well,
Speaker 1: Cod misses a shot. Who tipped it out? Bloody Lottie
Speaker 1: tips it? So your teammate tips it out. We actually
Speaker 1: talked to Rob We had Robert Ori on the pod
Speaker 1: last season and he told us about it. But walk
Speaker 1: us through that. So Cod misses a shot, do you exhale, like, okay,
Speaker 1: we got this, tip it out? We're gonna run the
Speaker 1: clock out walking through that place.
Speaker 2: I'm back back in that day when we were playing.
Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to remount, you know, so a lot
Speaker 2: of the guards don't remind back then because that's how
Speaker 2: the bigs get their money. So get out of here,
Speaker 2: a little feller. So that's all you tell. So that's
Speaker 2: why you all see guards hanging around outside. But I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking, you know, they the ball boy teld they
Speaker 2: were getting our champagne ready in the back and he
Speaker 2: had to clean it all up.
Speaker 1: And but.
Speaker 2: I just remember sitting there watching the tip and I
Speaker 2: just watch it, and I mean, it's just anybody but him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but I mean.
Speaker 2: Even if it's like a babble or tip of something different,
Speaker 2: because much time. Yeah, so it's just it's heart It
Speaker 2: was heartbreaking for me. You know, that would have been
Speaker 2: you know, championship for the city Sacramento and for myself.
Speaker 3: They turned this ship out to the the person who
Speaker 3: hit four threes in the same spour other championship four
Speaker 3: years straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's funny though. Anyway, that ship with the
Speaker 1: Robert Horry got all people supposed with friends like this,
Speaker 1: Who needs me I'm just saying with anybody, could with
Speaker 1: anybody and went straight to not the damn uh should
Speaker 1: with the fishing. Our fish would hit this show. You know,
Speaker 1: they called that on.
Speaker 2: They let that one go. They didn't see that one.
Speaker 1: They broke my nose.
Speaker 2: He didn't see it missed. They happened to miss that one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we're down. We're down one like fourteen seconds, leter.
Speaker 2: Often we get the ball back, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows what happens, That's what I'm saying. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I thought he broke it too. I mean, it was
Speaker 2: a it was a good it was a good old
Speaker 2: school movie. He hit me with But he's basketball, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So who hit you?
Speaker 2: Kobe? He keep me with a like he was like,
Speaker 2: could go And because I remember, yeah, hmmm.
Speaker 1: File on Mike's face, right, that's how you calling. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: called it on Kobe in the fourth quarter. So you
Speaker 1: end up averaging all said and done, twenty points in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you show forty the three point line. You're
Speaker 1: blessed with a seven year, eighty million dollar deal. How
Speaker 1: does life change after that?
Speaker 2: Where we live now?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: The rookie contracts back then, the.
Speaker 3: Word much very minimal, you know, right, remember when I
Speaker 3: got my first Yeah, but we're gonna go to that.
Speaker 1: We don't go so talk about how your life change.
Speaker 1: If we're going backtrack on Jack got his first check?
Speaker 1: Oh you want to do that first? No, talk about
Speaker 1: how light change you.
Speaker 2: Just I just you know, I hugged my mom and said,
Speaker 2: we made it. You know what I mean. It was
Speaker 2: just I mean it was just a great feeling, you know,
Speaker 2: coming from nothing and being able to take care of
Speaker 2: your whole family. No, it's great.
Speaker 1: All we talked about them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked.
Speaker 1: So let's backtrack a little bit. What year is this for?
Speaker 1: What year? I'll set it up, but what year is it?
Speaker 2: Probably ninety seven, ninety seven?
Speaker 1: What but you got you got your little check that
Speaker 1: we're about to tell the story.
Speaker 2: Still in school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mike's said Mice in Arizona, steal Stad gets
Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars check. Did they try to
Speaker 1: go to the bank seven straight day in cash?
Speaker 2: No, we try to go seven straight days to get it.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't give it to it. They wouln't put it
Speaker 1: in my hand. He kept telling like.
Speaker 2: The agents, and my agents say I could get if
Speaker 2: it comes here, I can get tomorrow and come back.
Speaker 1: To my around the house. Yeah, waiting for it. So
Speaker 1: they was about to rob this bank on the final day, Mike,
Speaker 1: and they about to set it off moves. But on
Speaker 1: the final seventh day, they finally give you the twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand. I'm gonna let y'all take it from here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we make it happen. And it's me, Mike, his sister,
Speaker 1: and my brother. We in the car.
Speaker 2: You come in the check, you come. He kept the
Speaker 2: check and go in the bank. So I'm coming into
Speaker 2: my car and just waiting for him, and he just
Speaker 2: come in and he just start counting.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it, like, so there's a real
Speaker 1: money he did. Y'all really still your whole.
Speaker 2: Life, right, So I'm looking at he counted. Let's go
Speaker 2: to the mall.
Speaker 1: Spend it all.
Speaker 3: Twenty five thousand in the mall, about one hundred and
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars left. We bought every Jibo, paul A
Speaker 3: man and everything I get. I want one for all
Speaker 3: him too. We got we told them all down about
Speaker 3: and we got pursed out.
Speaker 1: See it, that was my money.
Speaker 3: You got cursed off with me. He said, that's the
Speaker 3: last check Steve seen. My mam had never put a
Speaker 3: check in my hand after that.
Speaker 2: Check. To man, that was fun. That was fun. Man.
Speaker 1: That was yeah, because it was my money, my money.
Speaker 1: That's like, it's fun.
Speaker 3: Oh man, next season the team is is is just
Speaker 3: as good Chris Webbers as a c L the second
Speaker 3: round because versus Dallas.
Speaker 1: How was that?
Speaker 2: I remember that too, because I mean it was a
Speaker 2: close game and you know, he was gonna he was
Speaker 2: gonna spend I'm gonna spin off and throw me the
Speaker 2: live I'm like, I looked at the I mean, like
Speaker 2: game scoring time. So I'm it's like a close game,
Speaker 2: Like I'll just throw it up. Just catch it, you know,
Speaker 2: just don't He's like, I just throw it. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: If I don't dunk it, I'm gonna catch it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, so y'all had a conversation for the play. Yes,
Speaker 1: he goes.
Speaker 2: He goes, I'm gonna spin off. I'm here and I'm
Speaker 2: spin off throw it. I'm gonna if I don't dunk it,
Speaker 2: I'll catch it. I'm like, right now, you want to
Speaker 2: do that? And he was like, yeah, I'll catch it.
Speaker 2: So I throw and it goes down. I'm like, ship,
Speaker 2: I just I mean right, yeah, I know it was bad,
Speaker 2: But like I said, where was our anchor for us?
Speaker 2: And he's he's yeah, I played for a lot, I
Speaker 2: played with a lot of superstars, and him he took
Speaker 2: his accountability. Yes, like my fault. That was my fault.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't see a lot of superstars do
Speaker 2: that now. And for him doing that, I kind of
Speaker 2: respected that, and you know what I mean, kind of
Speaker 2: it rubbed off on the team and everybody was held
Speaker 2: accountable for what they did. If they messed up, It's
Speaker 2: okay to mess up. Just you know, take it, just
Speaker 2: move on to the next run.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I talked about how it was deep in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: but there was any doubt in your mind from the team,
Speaker 3: from the chances y'all went with everybody.
Speaker 1: With the injuries and stuff that I was dealing.
Speaker 2: With, it was gonna be tough, you know. I think
Speaker 2: we had another chance to We went to Game seven
Speaker 2: with Minnesota and we ended up losing.
Speaker 1: I think is that when Anthony Peeler elbow Kevin Garnett
Speaker 1: in the face.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he was here yet. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was here yt we still I think that
Speaker 2: might have been the next year. I think was after
Speaker 2: we went to the Western consponse. We ended up losing
Speaker 2: in seven in Minnesota. I think Web had a shot,
Speaker 2: We're down two, making a shot three and ended up
Speaker 2: losing by I think two. But I think I think
Speaker 2: after that then they started breaking the team up and
Speaker 2: decided and I think I think I'm window closed. I guess,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we had a little bit left.
Speaker 2: But I think the next year they traded you and Web,
Speaker 2: I come.
Speaker 1: To your team in four, and that's what they kind
Speaker 1: of felt like Chris was coming off of injury. They
Speaker 1: didn't feel the team was as strong. Chris has a
Speaker 1: no trade. I still to this day don't know why
Speaker 1: the motherfucker accepted the trade. But I mean we had
Speaker 1: a conversation about it. But so we're in We just
Speaker 1: packed for like a five game road trip. I think
Speaker 1: it was a long trip, and we started in Dallas
Speaker 1: and we here on ESPN. We get traded and then
Speaker 1: we're heartbroken because I was a fan of this team,
Speaker 1: like being from here, I'm finally on this team being
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the you know, this team feels
Speaker 1: like they have enough to make another run. We're early
Speaker 1: in was it January February?
Speaker 2: We ended up playing you guys, I think on this
Speaker 2: side like the same.
Speaker 1: Trip, Like we were supposed to go to the team
Speaker 1: we got traded to. So we get traded and we're
Speaker 1: in Dallas and we're like, fuck it, let's go out
Speaker 1: have a good night now. No, we're not going to
Speaker 1: talk about what happened that night, because a lot of
Speaker 1: shit happened. I think I passed out in the strip club,
Speaker 1: was throwing up all day the next day on the
Speaker 1: private plane flying flying to Philly. But it was sad though,
Speaker 1: because again it.
Speaker 2: Was yeah, you make good friends, family, and it could
Speaker 2: be taken away from you. Yeah that quick.
Speaker 1: Where was my big brother? But like Mike was my dog,
Speaker 1: Like me and Mike, Me and Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, you've become family and friends. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't know Matt before he came here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And just be able to
Speaker 2: be so close to Matt and me mass family, Matt
Speaker 2: be close with our family to it, you know, it
Speaker 2: changes lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was big. So we went off to Philly,
Speaker 1: which was the worst two years of my fucking life.
Speaker 2: Horrible.
Speaker 1: It was the first time and I'm a West Coast
Speaker 1: for life. So I'm out there and chucks and white
Speaker 1: T shirts and this coat is a bitch, like I'm
Speaker 1: on the jacket. I don't know, no real shoes, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck this is. So I'm
Speaker 1: just out there smoking weed for two years, playing video games,
Speaker 1: taking Webb's money, and man, I'm not getting no playing time.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm gonna be in the NBA
Speaker 1: no more or not. But I'm miserable. But I'm out
Speaker 1: there doing my thing off the court though. You better
Speaker 1: believe that jacket. On the court, I wasn't shit, but
Speaker 1: off the court, I was nice. So the trade happens
Speaker 1: February two thousand and five, me Weave and Michael Bradley
Speaker 1: are traded for Kenny Thomas Simon, John Simmons, John Sammon,
Speaker 1: a couple other people. He was doing my thing off
Speaker 1: the court? What doing ship on the court? What doing
Speaker 1: my thing off? You gotta win somewhere, So what is so?
Speaker 1: What's your mindset again? You come to Sacramento? This is
Speaker 1: this is you know one of your top destinations. You
Speaker 1: come here, you guys make runs very close to cracking
Speaker 1: egg and getting all the way. So Web gets traded,
Speaker 1: and what's kind of your mindset after that?
Speaker 2: Kind of like it's my team, Like it's kind of
Speaker 2: like my team to take to take over because it
Speaker 2: was Web's team, right and I think that needed a
Speaker 2: leader or not. I felt I was right for that
Speaker 2: position just as far as I mean just of the
Speaker 2: work and the time I put into basketball, I think
Speaker 2: it was my time.
Speaker 1: H So you end up getting traded, You play a
Speaker 1: couple more seasons, Sack, you get traded to Atlanta, a
Speaker 1: young team. You still go out there and put up
Speaker 1: very solid numbers. You guys pushed the Celtics that year
Speaker 1: to seven games. They end up winning the championship the year.
Speaker 1: But what was that experience? Like, you go from Vancouver,
Speaker 1: small city, not very good, coming to Sacramento, small city,
Speaker 1: but live a really good team. So now you're off
Speaker 1: to Atlanta with the young team an atmophere that Jack
Speaker 1: absolutely loves in Atlanta. But what was that experience like
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: It was good? Like it was different, it was a
Speaker 2: different role for me.
Speaker 1: Uh. By the way, Jack has his his jersey retired
Speaker 1: in street three strip clubs in Atlanta, still on the wall,
Speaker 1: Captain trick. We go ahead, Oh, I.
Speaker 2: Mean cause I was supposed to get traded to Cleveland,
Speaker 2: like Atlanta. I was supposed to get traded to Cleveland
Speaker 2: the year before, and now I supposed to get traded
Speaker 2: to Cleveland the next year too. But you know, I
Speaker 2: woke up from an app and my son comes in, like, Dad,
Speaker 2: you just got traded.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no idea.
Speaker 2: He's like, I said to wear he said the Hawks.
Speaker 2: I said, never talked to the Hawks. And so my
Speaker 2: agents like, oh, let me call you back. It was
Speaker 2: like right burnt right before All Star break. And he's like,
Speaker 2: so I could out David I got traded. He's like, no,
Speaker 2: you didn't get traded. You got to wait till after
Speaker 2: I said, David some fucking ESPN. He was like, oh,
Speaker 2: let me call you back. So he got with Dad.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, they did trade you. He said,
Speaker 2: that's like one of the two because David was very
Speaker 2: powerful man, and David could block the trades if he
Speaker 2: wanted to, if they if he knew. So two trades
Speaker 2: he never heard about is when I got traded from
Speaker 2: here to Atlanta, and from Atlanta to to Washington. I
Speaker 2: played two games for the Wizards Tam and he didn't
Speaker 2: know about him because they he probably would have blocked them.
Speaker 2: But going to Atlanta, that was a different role for me.
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't need me to do all the
Speaker 2: scoring that I was doing here, And like I said,
Speaker 2: I took the role that lot he had here. I
Speaker 2: kind of took her to the younger guys, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, Al Horford was a rookie, Josh Smith was
Speaker 2: a couple of years out, Marvin Williams, Josh Chill, just
Speaker 2: Joe Johnson. So we had a pretty good young team.
Speaker 2: And like I said, my role was gonna change. They
Speaker 2: didn't need me to score. And you know, I said
Speaker 2: a lot of picks. I did a lot of pass
Speaker 2: and I think I mean, like in practice, we are
Speaker 2: having fun. Like I made trips, like when we get
Speaker 2: when we get to where we're going, the whole team
Speaker 2: is going to go eat some dinner, go go to
Speaker 2: the mall, walk around the mall, and everybody was buying it.
Speaker 1: And so everybody was.
Speaker 2: On the trips and they kind of got a camaraderie
Speaker 2: together and everybody start feeling comfortable with start film good
Speaker 2: and started winning games. I think the next year there,
Speaker 2: I think we won fifty one of the years we
Speaker 2: won fifty two games. Being from Atlanta not making a
Speaker 2: tournament the playoffs for ten years kind of like, I
Speaker 2: feel like I did my job what I needed to
Speaker 2: do to get there, and it wasn't always just scoring.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you remember about that your first
Speaker 1: year out there, when you guys played that Boston team
Speaker 1: with KG, Paul Ray Allen and Rondo.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it was the first time. I think
Speaker 2: Joe Johnson and me are only two people on the
Speaker 2: team that played in a playoff game. And I mean
Speaker 2: the atmosphere in Atlanta was crazy. We were getting our
Speaker 2: ass kicked the Boston every time we went, but we
Speaker 2: were holding our own in Atlanta, and I mean it
Speaker 2: was just tough. They were tough teams, and like I said,
Speaker 2: we had our own. It took the championship, took the
Speaker 2: champions in seven games.
Speaker 3: Signing with the Heat March second, twenty eleventh, after clear
Speaker 3: wais I wasn't playing with the Heat and that experience,
Speaker 3: we talked about it, so we talked about it.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the Big Three. So that's Bosh Wade.
Speaker 2: It was the first year, and I mean it was
Speaker 2: just different, you know what I mean. It was it
Speaker 2: wasn't something I was used to doing. It just wasn't
Speaker 2: a good experience for me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean a great organization, great coach of great Riley, great,
Speaker 2: everything is great, it just wasn't for me, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And and just I didn't want to.
Speaker 2: I thought I still had a little bit more left.
Speaker 2: That's why I left Washington. They wanted me the kind
Speaker 2: of prep John wall and I thought I had. I
Speaker 2: thought I still had some juice left. And so that's
Speaker 2: why I ended up leaving Washington and try to go
Speaker 2: get a championship player over there. And it just wasn't
Speaker 2: for me, Like to go stand in the corner and
Speaker 2: wade and wade so much pressure on shots. It wasn't
Speaker 2: for me. And you know, after that year, I was done.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was done. Like you know, I
Speaker 2: ad I'm done. And Mike Woodson goes to New York
Speaker 2: and ends up saying, come play one more year. I'm like, Woody,
Speaker 2: I'm done. I ain't got normal fight if I don't
Speaker 2: want to like, if I'm going to do something, I
Speaker 2: want to be all in. And I wasn't all in.
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is after you play a
Speaker 1: long time, like you feel it like I had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I saw had two more years of my deal when
Speaker 1: I retired. But when, like you said, when that fight
Speaker 1: leaves you and you realize, like, damn, I'm missing a
Speaker 1: lot of time with my family, my kids growing up,
Speaker 1: stuff that I'll never get back. We could be playing.
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously, the NBA is where everyone wants to
Speaker 1: make but when that fight leaves you, it's a different feeling,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Who ever think like how
Speaker 1: could you not want to? But like that NBA is
Speaker 1: a grind and you travel a lot, and all though
Speaker 1: the money is good and it's we're not complaining, it
Speaker 1: becomes to wear on you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: once you but.
Speaker 2: To get prepared for it is what I didn't want
Speaker 2: to do anymore. You know, I work my ass Steve
Speaker 2: those why come to work with that? And and so
Speaker 2: I mean I just didn't have an in me anymore.
Speaker 2: And then when I went to New York, he know
Speaker 2: what he was like, come play company? So I ended
Speaker 2: up going to play, but it was like, I'm here
Speaker 2: if you need me, but I'm fine over. Don't feel
Speaker 2: like you feel to feel obligated to play me. I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I worked out already, a shot all the stuff before
Speaker 2: the game. I'm cool over here. You know, he come,
Speaker 2: I mean, what he took care of me, what he
Speaker 2: would come down to mansion would blow out, do you
Speaker 2: want to go in? Sometimes like now, I'm good and
Speaker 2: sometimes that ship I'm getting to play a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, But I mean it was it was over.
Speaker 1: What was the experience like with Brown d Wade? How
Speaker 1: good was d Wade at that time?
Speaker 2: I think I think it was still d Ways. I
Speaker 2: mean it was the Ways team was Lebron's first year.
Speaker 2: But I get the Way is like a freak. You know,
Speaker 2: he's probably six to three, jump out the gym long arms,
Speaker 2: and he's just an athletic monster, you know, and just
Speaker 2: playing with those guys, like I said, it was different
Speaker 2: playing with three superstars. You know, only get like one
Speaker 2: maybe one and a half, you know, playing with three,
Speaker 2: like I said, it was a different role for me
Speaker 2: that I wasn't used to that I've never done in
Speaker 2: my life. And I mean, like I said, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't for me.
Speaker 1: What about Bron How is it playing with Broun?
Speaker 2: It was like a superhuman you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean he probably weighed about he was probably the
Speaker 2: heaviest gun on the team. Run that fast and jumping
Speaker 2: that high.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: I needed some of that stuff, whatever it was, I
Speaker 2: needed that. But I mean it's just like like he
Speaker 2: like he was the heaviest on the team, and to
Speaker 2: be able to jump that high and run that fast,
Speaker 2: I mean it's unseen.
Speaker 1: So as you said, you end up going to New York.
Speaker 1: This is a loaded New York team with Mellow and
Speaker 1: Mari Stodamar j R. Smith, our brother, Baron, Davis Tyson,
Speaker 1: Chandler Shump. Any funny stories just about that team on
Speaker 1: the bus, on the plane, in the locker room, just
Speaker 1: saying those names in one it makes me.
Speaker 2: I mean it was good. You know, Baron, I love Bear.
Speaker 2: That's where were kind of Yeah, so Baron and we
Speaker 2: were just out some Chima Baron, but Baron, him and
Speaker 2: Jared Jefferies they both had bad knees. And you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Baron said they made a bet who's
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt first.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was real bad. Jared Jeffery, Jared Jefferies and Bearn.
Speaker 2: They made a bed, right, so Baron one. Yeah, Baron's
Speaker 2: out on the floor.
Speaker 1: His leg is like this way.
Speaker 2: So we go out there to help him up, and
Speaker 2: he looked bad. He said, I won to Jered, I
Speaker 2: mean in the middle of the territors.
Speaker 1: They yeah, Baron blew his whole knee up. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember, but Baron's whole knee. He
Speaker 1: was driving down the lane going for a lab his
Speaker 1: whole entire knee blew up. And the first thing he
Speaker 1: says to Jared Jefferies is I want I would not surprised. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it was good.
Speaker 2: I mean it was a good experience for me there too,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, being in New York, playing
Speaker 2: in the garden and you know, playing for the same
Speaker 2: team that my dad played for two you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: so just being in that environment, being New York was
Speaker 2: a good, good situation.
Speaker 1: What's your relationship did you have a relationship with cob
Speaker 1: Obviously years of battling same you played together, but.
Speaker 2: I mean it was like, no respectful every time you've
Speaker 2: seen each other and like I said, you know, I
Speaker 2: always gave me love, and I mean it's just not
Speaker 2: trying not to bother people outside here in.
Speaker 1: This real, real close squiet dude, Any any good stories
Speaker 1: on or off the court with him, ship talking or
Speaker 1: the chilling or no, no, not.
Speaker 3: That goold say out here now, talk about playing in
Speaker 3: the Big Three. Obviously, me and you both helped ice
Speaker 3: Cube with this Big Three league. We both started off
Speaker 3: as captains. Uh I won two of the championship at
Speaker 3: the last three. But talk about that experience and just
Speaker 3: being able to be someone that's the face of a
Speaker 3: black on lead something that Cube uh started to do
Speaker 3: and a way to give players like us a chance
Speaker 3: to continue to play professionally on a high level.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, you know.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I got a call from QBE and
Speaker 2: I mean, well whatever it was, cubit said they were
Speaker 2: gonna go uh cut some grass for a little bit down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with you. I looked up the Cube,
Speaker 2: I looked listen to his music growing up, and I
Speaker 2: mean it was just the best situation. Like you remember
Speaker 2: that first year. I mean, we're selling out. You know,
Speaker 2: there's about seventeen th eighteen thousand people coming to watch
Speaker 2: three on three basketball and just you know, just for
Speaker 2: Cube to even think of us like that, I think
Speaker 2: it's like that crazy man. It's just it's just crazy
Speaker 2: to be a part of that. Shout out ice Cube
Speaker 2: and the Big Three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't understand how the lives he's saving a
Speaker 3: lot of guys don't need that money too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you get the coaching bug? I coached
Speaker 2: my son. I've been coaching him since he was nine.
Speaker 2: But I'll do it when I wasn't playing, So Raymond,
Speaker 2: my cousin, Raymon would coach while I, well I was gone,
Speaker 2: so he had coached it. When I come back, I'll
Speaker 2: coach them. So we had no I mean they were
Speaker 2: learning nine years old, ten year old, doing learning NBA
Speaker 2: stuff and you know, I mean I was teaching the kids,
Speaker 2: and you know, you get you get you get soft
Speaker 2: spot for kids. Wanted to help kids. You know a
Speaker 2: lot of my team was kids didn't really have much.
Speaker 2: You know, I took care of everything. Jordans, Jordan Brand
Speaker 2: gave me something to My contract is for them too
Speaker 2: as well. You know, so I got uniform shoes. So
Speaker 2: we're all in Jordan, you know, at that age, all
Speaker 2: in Jordan, anybody want to play for you? And I've
Speaker 2: been coaching ever since then, and I end up coaching
Speaker 2: in high school. I wasn't gonna really coach. I was
Speaker 2: go coach in the au and just let it go.
Speaker 2: But I saw it was high school coaching. One time
Speaker 2: I went to one of the practices and I said,
Speaker 2: I gotta, I got to help the team because I
Speaker 2: don't want my son here. I want my son to
Speaker 2: learn and get better and be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: fulfill dream he might have. And that's when I just
Speaker 2: started coaching. And I mean I take it seriously. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've had practice, shoot arounds, watch film, We'll do stuff
Speaker 2: we did in the NBA. This we're gonna cover this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna cover this this way and if it doesn't work,
Speaker 2: and cover it this way. The defensive rotation. So I
Speaker 2: was really putting the time in and really care about
Speaker 2: these kids and what they do, not just on the court,
Speaker 2: but making a better man off the court.
Speaker 3: That's why my kids, we all we talked about the
Speaker 3: joint collection. We know you got probably top two, if
Speaker 3: not you know, if not number one, joint collection. I
Speaker 3: know that I've seen it. You got any memorable stories
Speaker 3: or stories you could tell about MJ.
Speaker 2: With MJ, he brought all of us to a dinner
Speaker 2: one time. I mean, it wasn't as many as there
Speaker 2: is now, and I mean he just went down the
Speaker 2: line and picked everybody, took a patch of everybody's ass,
Speaker 2: and I just and I was he came to me
Speaker 2: and I just plipt my head down. He just said, Mike,
Speaker 2: you don't say much, so I'm gonna let you go.
Speaker 2: And he just went on to the next but shut down.
Speaker 2: He went by Carmelo ray Allen, and he went by
Speaker 2: Derrick and he.
Speaker 1: Went down the line and like knock, like what their weaknesses.
Speaker 2: Now, he was just talking shit like he told c
Speaker 2: said somethingbouts I play defense. I got two points. Said
Speaker 2: that don't mean you're a good defenser. Defender, that means
Speaker 2: you good anticipated So I mean he just I mean
Speaker 2: he would go all the way down line just ship talk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he just he left me out. So that's probably one.
Speaker 1: Of the good time. So when Mike get nervous, he
Speaker 1: turned real weird, Like how some white people's cheese get flushed,
Speaker 1: Mike's get that flush.
Speaker 3: What's your observation on the kings now lighting the mother
Speaker 3: fucking beings.
Speaker 1: So you're back in the family now one more time.
Speaker 1: Mike is a part of the King's family, and y'all
Speaker 1: have to see Mike all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love to see him always. You always
Speaker 2: want to see him do good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think this is where my heart still is. You know,
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of my time here, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I got was here for almost seven years, got a
Speaker 2: lot of friends, and my heart's here for to seeing
Speaker 2: them finally start doing good and everybody getting back until
Speaker 2: I love to see it like it's Matt said, being
Speaker 2: a part of the NBC sports stuff. You know, I
Speaker 2: think it's just a it's gonna be great for me
Speaker 2: just to be a part of the team.
Speaker 1: Againe Dope Dope, all right, man, Well, I hope you
Speaker 1: guys are in Jersey in there though. No, Bro, there's
Speaker 1: a store. Now there's a gang. I'm like, well, there's
Speaker 1: a real number ten in town. Now, the best number ten.
Speaker 1: The best number ten is the current number ten. Huh.
Speaker 1: Now you still want to put it up? Yeah, come
Speaker 1: on now. Yeah, we're gonna talk to some people about that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that shit definitely need to be in the raptors. But
Speaker 1: I will hope you guys have enjoyed this so far.
Speaker 1: Right now we're coming down to the tail end. This
Speaker 1: is called quick hitters. So first scene to come to mind.
Speaker 1: Let us know, and you can go back and relive
Speaker 1: one night of your career on the court, not off
Speaker 1: the court. We're not talking about off the court. Ship
Speaker 1: one game in your career. Break it down, what would
Speaker 1: that be and go back and change it? No, just
Speaker 1: just ReLit it one more time, Like tomorrow, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go play that game.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say a game, I would say getting drafted.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, it's like a dream come true. Like
Speaker 2: my I was never big headed to where like I'm
Speaker 2: walking around I'm gonna be this pick coming up. When
Speaker 2: it when it finally happened, it was it was the
Speaker 2: greatest feeling in the world because you you you look
Speaker 2: at it as a kid wanted to be there and
Speaker 2: finally coming from nothing, you finally get to do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the biggest thing that ever happened in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: You pledge for going to black and play on the
Speaker 1: black Top. Who you bringing, I'm bringing, y'all. I gotta
Speaker 1: bring y'all to it just in case you gotta fight.
Speaker 1: You know we was gonna be first take. I knew
Speaker 1: it already.
Speaker 2: I got I got them to uh that I played
Speaker 2: with or just for you four I gotta go m J,
Speaker 2: m J and Shack I gotta take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and Dane's gonna be the coach. Uh your
Speaker 1: top say security Now, I like a coastic could fight,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna let you be coached. Uh. Top five
Speaker 1: Brand Jordan models of all time. I'm not a model,
Speaker 1: so you know they don't don't count me.
Speaker 2: In that eleven? One five, four three threes?
Speaker 1: Yes? Lord?
Speaker 2: How is that four? H so like one three four eleven?
Speaker 1: I like the nine, the nine. Only person I've ever
Speaker 1: heard say like the nine. If y'all like me, you
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck he just said. Just gonna look,
Speaker 1: just gonna look those numbers up. Top five din against
Speaker 1: dead or live. Five people you want at your dinner table,
Speaker 1: dead or live pop mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali, mum, M, Mike Tyson, m Jackie Robinson, Uh, Biggie,
Speaker 2: the hell of the table, Mike.
Speaker 3: Who do you want to see on all the smoke
Speaker 3: burn out? Who you want to see on all the smoke.
Speaker 3: But before you answer that question, you have to help
Speaker 3: us get your answer on the show. Who I'm sucking
Speaker 3: all over this question? M j oh, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, We need your help, Mike.
Speaker 1: We have to simultaneously text this brother, all right.
Speaker 3: I think we can work up from both angers, because
Speaker 3: he actually said he would do it when I talked
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 1: But I think me and you being both on George,
Speaker 1: I think we can. If you don't want to know
Speaker 1: me his number, I'll text that motherfucker too. Whatever. Yeah, right, well, man,
Speaker 1: we hope you guys appreciated this night, tonight or this day.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, give Mike Vibe a round them clause. Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming right George in the house. George was
Speaker 1: on the Laker teams, was on the teams. Thank you again,
Speaker 1: Urban Roots, Rob the whole family. We appreciate you. God
Speaker 1: give Urban Roots a round of the place. Yeah, stack
Speaker 1: of kidneys on your ass. And right now we're gonna
Speaker 1: do something a little different because obviously we love Sax,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get We're gonna take a handful of
Speaker 1: questions right now, So you guys have any questions for myself,
Speaker 1: Stack or Mike, raise your hand and we will bring
Speaker 1: you the microphone. Are you gonna come to the middle
Speaker 1: and get the microphone? Because this guy over here with
Speaker 1: the curly hair is looking confused. So we got some questions.
Speaker 1: Who wants a question? All right? Here, come on, step
Speaker 1: to the mic Oh you got here? Next, get line?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Hey, Mike, who do you think is the
Speaker 5: best point guard in Lake currently?
Speaker 1: And who do you think new player that resembles your game? Cool?
Speaker 2: I think Steph is the best point guard in the league.
Speaker 2: Anybody resembles me? I don't. The game has played a
Speaker 2: different way now, so.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really an ISO guy like that. You know
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff io now, so I really can't.
Speaker 2: I don't really think anybody right now?
Speaker 1: Could you imagine might getting ten threes a game? Just
Speaker 1: off the rip? Could you imagine you shot so you
Speaker 1: shot maybe twelve fifteen shots a game. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: playing in this era getting you know, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: eight ten threes every night?
Speaker 2: The most I think I ever averaged threes was like
Speaker 2: six or tenths a game, right, you know, to shoot
Speaker 2: fifteen threes twenty threes game? Right, that'd be fun, a
Speaker 2: lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Next question, can you please share your fat Joe sneakers story?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, good one. Okay, he put he put a
Speaker 2: lot on it. But but you know he came to
Speaker 2: the house. You know he had like ten people with him. No,
Speaker 2: he's in my closet, and he I look back.
Speaker 1: First of all, this closet's like a fucking bedroom warehouse,
Speaker 1: the warehouse.
Speaker 2: Well, I walk in and I look back. I shown
Speaker 2: the shoes that I have. So I looked back and
Speaker 2: I see like five of his guys with shoes that like,
Speaker 2: I only have one pair of Like, if I got more,
Speaker 2: I'll give shoes out if I have an extra payer,
Speaker 2: but I don't like one pairing. I was like, Joe,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't take all five. You could have one.
Speaker 2: And he ends up there was a shoe. I never
Speaker 2: made an All Star game, but they made a shoe
Speaker 2: for me just in case I made one. And I
Speaker 2: think there's only one pair of made, and I'm thumb humbled, like,
Speaker 2: please don't pick this one, Please don't pick this one.
Speaker 2: And he was looking around like and said, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take these, and so he ended up taking them.
Speaker 1: What pair were they?
Speaker 2: The nine lows were like, there was like silver, yeah,
Speaker 2: ten on the back, but it was white with silver
Speaker 2: and he and he took him, he put him in
Speaker 2: the store. But I mean he was gonna do something
Speaker 2: for me, my sister. My daughter wanted to be a singer.
Speaker 2: And I said, I have no problem, you're taking the shoes,
Speaker 2: just do a song.
Speaker 1: With my daughter.
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, prom did.
Speaker 1: You want to do the song? No?
Speaker 2: He was scared.
Speaker 1: But that's a lifelong offer. So you got someone else
Speaker 1: to be able to plug jail with a song. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't rough him up. I didn't choke him. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't do that like he says I did. But
Speaker 2: I was kind of heartbroken. That's what shit he took.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else. We got a couple more questions. Come on,
Speaker 1: step to the mic. Don't be scared, Matt.
Speaker 2: This person is for you.
Speaker 1: You want a bran man.
Speaker 3: I did not expect you to sound like that, all right,
Speaker 3: I ain't tipping. I'm not ain't chipping.
Speaker 1: Bro Hey, I ain't tip. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I did not expect you to sound like that, my nigga,
Speaker 1: Go ahead on, do you what you do? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: leak for that, Okay.
Speaker 2: So Matt persure for you. So you want a championship
Speaker 2: with in twenty seventeen, do you have any good stories that.
Speaker 1: Golden State team. I came into team late, got hurt
Speaker 1: right before the playoffs. But I think one thing I
Speaker 1: remember about that team is, you know, arguably that was
Speaker 1: one of the greatest teams in NBA history. But what
Speaker 1: I remember was to have Steph Clay, KD Dre, have
Speaker 1: a rock star coach and Steve Kerr. There was no egos.
Speaker 1: Everybody enjoyed coming to practice. We had fun on and
Speaker 1: off the court. Off days, the whole team was in
Speaker 1: getting extra work. So I just think the what I
Speaker 1: remember most is just the camaraderie. And then my twins
Speaker 1: at the time were like seven or eight, So when
Speaker 1: we won a championship, I got them championship rings, so
Speaker 1: they were able to get rings. But when we won
Speaker 1: the championship, like the twins were on stage like trying
Speaker 1: to check take the MVP trophy from KD take the
Speaker 1: championship pro like there's literally filming them like my homies, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I see your kids on ESPN trying to steal his
Speaker 1: trophies from Stephen KD. So that experience was a great
Speaker 1: experience for me. And again, I think what I remember
Speaker 1: the most was just how much that team fucked with
Speaker 1: each other then trying to give me the same something.
Speaker 1: But it's them to let you go ahead. I ain't
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm just saying any other questions, We've got
Speaker 1: a couple more. Anybody right here? Go ahead. I think
Speaker 1: you got a Mike Baby go Is that a Big
Speaker 1: Three jersey? Yeah? Comes on? Question? God, Daln you go next, Gina?
Speaker 1: What you what's your question? Gene? That is definitely one
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in Big Three history too. Take
Speaker 1: that off. But I call I try to get you
Speaker 1: to be a captain with me.
Speaker 2: I would I'm already on some I already got somebody else.
Speaker 1: I would want me to gino. Go ahead, mister baby.
Speaker 1: I think we'd all like to hear your top five
Speaker 1: of all time? Yeah, I've got a question for you.
Speaker 1: I asked you that later on, Bro. But what kind
Speaker 1: of guy is in this beard? Is that just for me?
Speaker 1: Is that? Because I've heard head and shoulders got a
Speaker 1: new dog? Don't play? What's your your top five all time?
Speaker 2: Mike Jordan's Kobe Shack Labron Korean top five, top top
Speaker 2: five of all time.
Speaker 1: Nice? Nice, all right, that you got to go to
Speaker 1: Jersey on and the.
Speaker 6: Kings went through some crazy times obviously with possibly the
Speaker 6: thoughts of losing the team here years ago. Sacramento fought
Speaker 6: hard and went through crazy times, a lot of controversy.
Speaker 6: What was your thoughts and the fact that the Kings
Speaker 6: ever possibly losing their team to the enjoyment of actually
Speaker 6: keeping the team and being here forever.
Speaker 2: That would have been a bad move, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like this is probably one of the best
Speaker 2: basketball It's second one of the best fans I ever
Speaker 2: played in front of, no matter what team I was
Speaker 2: around clause I mean, like, I mean, it's different, Like
Speaker 2: you go to La. Play in La you can hear
Speaker 2: a pin drop. That's why I like playing there so much.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people didn't really come to
Speaker 2: watch the game. It's a lot of came to just
Speaker 2: be I mean, it's like a scene, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So I mean just playing for you guys
Speaker 2: is just the best fans that I mean, played for
Speaker 2: fourteen years, been to every stadium. You guys are the
Speaker 2: best fans.
Speaker 1: I seen so any more questions? We got two more. Anybody,
Speaker 1: don't be shy. A lot of people in here. How
Speaker 1: about a little man right here on Jack's team. You
Speaker 1: got a question in the back you want to ask?
Speaker 1: You don't be shy. Anybody say cool, and that's my problem.
Speaker 1: He cool. You gotta nice little gidio. What is your
Speaker 1: favorite parent jordanis to play in? And what is your
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do in Sacramento outside of pooh?
Speaker 2: Favorite shoot of playing was probably either of my nines
Speaker 2: or thirteen's nines were kind of narrow from my foot
Speaker 2: a little bit, but the thirteens, I'd probably say thirteens.
Speaker 2: And outside, I mean, I have a lot of friends
Speaker 2: here in family, so you know, I'll go people's house
Speaker 2: and the barbecue and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So soun Tan, you don't do much of that.
Speaker 3: He'll come to your barbecue, but he bringing his own
Speaker 3: chicken fingers, you chicken fingers, and front he ain't eat
Speaker 3: your food because it a certain way.
Speaker 1: PRIs every day. But anybody, last question for Mike or
Speaker 1: for Stack, anybody who hasn't asked a question yet, going once?
Speaker 1: Come on, bro step up, Jane, you and because I
Speaker 1: say Mike bench pred spotting partner niggas spot might go
Speaker 1: to bench Press. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So other guests, you usually talk about artists and music
Speaker 5: and really big into music. What type of music do
Speaker 5: you like to listen to and in that genre? What's
Speaker 5: your top five artists you like listening to?
Speaker 2: All right, I love po pod is my favorite all
Speaker 2: the time. I'm I'm on money Bag, money bag yo.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm listening to all this stuff right now.
Speaker 2: I'm just not old like I like ice Cube, I
Speaker 2: like Biggie, I like pop.
Speaker 1: You old school like us, old school music.
Speaker 2: But right now, right now, money bag yo is my
Speaker 2: favorite guy out right now.
Speaker 1: Well again, man, if you got yourself around to applause,
Speaker 1: give Mike round of applause. Thank you guys for coming out.
Speaker 1: Before we leave, we're gonna take a team photo, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna stand in here. You guys are gonna stand
Speaker 1: behind us, so everyone's stand up real quick to make
Speaker 1: sure you get your ass in the photo. And we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this, and thank you all for coming