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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Welcome back Man, Round two at Urban Roots

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Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings Training Camp Takeover Day two. Stack is taking

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Speaker 1: it easy on the stack of kittens. Last time we

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Speaker 1: did this ship with Jay will he almost couldn't talk,

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Speaker 1: What's that stack? Oh yeah, the beers name stack of kids.

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Speaker 1: But again, man, thank you Urban Roots, Thank you Sacramento

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Speaker 1: for coming out. We're excited. You know, me, being a

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Speaker 1: during the playoff. We got Mike here to start the season.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back here before the playoffs again with

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Speaker 1: a special guest. So thank you guys for coming out tonight.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Yeah, you're go ahead and give yourself

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Speaker 1: on the blogs. Yeah you're here, you're yeah. Man. Well

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Speaker 1: we know this is gonna be a good one, a

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to us today. Mike is a little shy.

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Speaker 1: He want to ask shy, but today we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: it up out of Welcome to the show today, Mike Bibby,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so Mike. Long career, but particularly the Sacramento

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Speaker 1: run to me was one of your greatest runs as

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Speaker 1: a professional athlete. You hit game winners, you help lead

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Speaker 1: mean for you to be back in Sack.

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Speaker 2: It's always special coming back here. You know our family

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Speaker 2: friends I've had here for over twenty five years. Good

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Speaker 2: to show that everybody shows me love every time to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what are you up to these days? I

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Speaker 1: know your son is playing whop, You're in a little

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Speaker 2: I just joined Matt so I'll be with a man

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Speaker 1: That was a secret. So, yeah, Mike is gonna be

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Speaker 1: calling Kings games. He I wasn't supposed to say now,

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Speaker 2: So I'm joining Matt there, but you know, I'm still

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Speaker 2: You know, so I got three girls still trying to

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Speaker 1: So okay, so you spoke to your family. Obviously very

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Speaker 1: family orienteded. You got your brother, your brother Dane. We're

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Speaker 1: And how important was that to you? And your not

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Speaker 2: It was great for me, you know, I mean I

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Speaker 1: That means he's rich. He bought a whole area in

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know our relationship. We've been

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Speaker 3: So I had been through a situation where I was

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Speaker 1: So you was telling you and Dane was telling us

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Speaker 2: I cal him in the afternoon, I said, what happened?

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Speaker 1: Well, I was heard about it, and I was crying

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Speaker 3: And his mom came in the room, white Nott and

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Speaker 3: But let's talk about you know, I was on the

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Speaker 1: So I know you was out there, Poppet, And I'm

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Speaker 1: with Mike Dibbie too. Yeah, we were working out.

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Speaker 2: I was in class. He was at home, you know,

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Speaker 2: It was tough because back then, no players really ever

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Speaker 2: I think, to put Arizon on the map and just

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Speaker 1: Name some of the people in that class.

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Speaker 2: Just so people know, Kobe Bryant, Neil, Tim Toms, Steve,

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Speaker 2: it was crazy, but I mean it was fun. They

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Speaker 1: Who was on your team?

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Speaker 2: I think I might have been Court Benjamin. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Their whole starting five came out of high school.

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Speaker 1: So you end up being the number two selection by

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Speaker 2: And they made like the team was crazy. I came in,

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Speaker 1: That's dope, And I mean that was the main thing.

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Speaker 1: So you were one of the OG members of Team Jordan.

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Speaker 2: It was so I come in the draft like that year.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, oh, pool Man, Okay. Then so my agent,

435
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Speaker 2: my agent was David Fall, so he had Michael Jordan too, so.

436
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Speaker 1: I look, but also not to cut you off, he

437
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 1: had Michael Jordans, Allen Iverson Patrick, all the big time guys.

438
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Speaker 2: So I was kind of me and Elton Brawner his

439
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 2: last two people he had. So he was like, we

440
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: would you want to go with Jordans? Would you want

441
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: to wear Jordan's fucking right? Okay? So he called and

442
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 2: made you know, they guy the contract right then. It's

443
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: been been like that ever since.

444
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: But you got like some guys get like the Team

445
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: Jordan ship. And I'm not a well of all to

446
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: respect m JP end up hearing this, I'm not a

447
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 1: fan of us, but you had like.

448
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: No one is.

449
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: You had like you were one of the athletes. Though.

450
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 1: That got to remake and recolor scheme like the Jordan

451
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: Jordans that everybody loves.

452
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Speaker 2: But you know what happened. It was at that time

453
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: they were they were doing that. They were there was

454
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 2: there wasn't that many of us, so were they were

455
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: able to get all the retros and do all that

456
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: stuff for people. So now that he has so many

457
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 2: people now it'd be hard to put everybody in retros.

458
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: And like you said, the retro cell on his own.

459
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: They don't need us to market the retros in order

460
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: to sell, so they'll put us in those other shoes

461
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: to market those for other people to see us playing

462
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: on them and for them to like to play in it.

463
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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you got the retros. So you try

464
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: to get Stack in Arizona thanks to Dane. That didn't work.

465
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. So we got another story though, So you

466
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 1: try to get miked Vancoux. Are you trying to get

467
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Stacked to Vancouver with you? So you're in the mix.

468
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: Stack gets So Stack you got drafted second round. It

469
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't work. You went and did some overseas stuff. Yeah,

470
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I did, won championships there too. Okay, you might have

471
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 1: some kids over there. Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Yeah,

472
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: I'll meet them one day. So from there, again, Mike,

473
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: being the guy he was, Mike tried to get stack

474
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Speaker 1: of Vancouver and tell these because this is the first

475
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: time we were chilling yesterday and I was hearing these stories.

476
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like, so tell the story how you got

477
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: him to three different training camps.

478
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Speaker 2: You look, look at how many years do you play?

479
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: Steve fifteen fourteen, So you play fourteen years.

480
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: So like I should have played seven eighteen.

481
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're losing franchise. You know, my second year,

482
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Steven a tryout for the team. I mean, it's that's

483
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: spirit political. This this whole basketball stuff is political, and

484
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean I can't remember how the first one kind

485
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: of went, but they cut him. So he comes back

486
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: the next year and get him again.

487
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: This is Vancouver. Now, Vancouver have much so he shouldn't

488
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Speaker 1: have been cutting the real.

489
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Speaker 2: One one about one about forty some games in three

490
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: years in Vancouver, So do the man, Yeah, one game

491
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Speaker 2: out of fifty season. So so I mean I get

492
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: him there for the third year. I mean he's killing defensively, offensively,

493
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: he's talking ship, he's being gangster out there and all

494
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: the type of ship.

495
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: Something I'm trying to wrong. Go ahead, but you know

496
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

497
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: But that's that's to Steve wrong. He must' ass talking ship.

498
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: And the last last cut comes and I'm telling myself, said,

499
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: there's no way they cut you this time. There can't be.

500
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: There's no way. How much work you out there. And

501
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 2: he comes back in and remember we're in the locker room,

502
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: you qualking. He's like, they cut me. I said, you're lying,

503
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: and he said, they come me, And so I don't

504
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: know what you did. Some other stuff after that, but

505
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: he ended up playing fourteen years, win championships, averaging whatever,

506
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: and you get cut by a team that wins forty

507
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: games in three years, you know what I mean. So

508
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were weren't trying to win

509
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: or what, but I don't know. But uh, it was

510
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: just good. I mean, like people do that, people bringing

511
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: people to give them chances. And I thought Steve had

512
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: a pretty good, real good chance of making it. It

513
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: was just it didn't work up. Like I said, everything

514
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: happens for a reason and made him even hungrier. And

515
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: I think he went on to build him how he

516
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Speaker 2: used today.

517
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Speaker 1: I want to rewind a little bit because I learned

518
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Speaker 1: the story yesterday. I think you guys lived now speaking elements.

519
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: So there was one year where my Stack and Dane

520
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: went out there having a good time and Mike wasn't involved.

521
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: Name I wasn't evolved. So there.

522
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: I've seen it.

523
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Mike might have been evolved with tell us what happened

524
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: that that that one evening in Vancouver, British Columbia.

525
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just minding our business like we

526
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 3: normally do, just minding our business. You know, we had

527
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: a couple of beverages. You know, everybody had a couple

528
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: of beverages, but somebody that was out there had more

529
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: beverages than everybody else in the world, right, And he

530
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: said some things to big brother.

531
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Speaker 1: He shouldn't have said, you know what I mean. And

532
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: you know, Dane is a very understanding guy, very mild man,

533
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: very mild man of guy. Nice hair. We don't even

534
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: bring up his background. He's a nice guy, right, just

535
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: look at this Caroline, this Caroline his hairtel he's a

536
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: nice guy, right. He strong. Yeah, but.

537
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Speaker 4: Even nice guys have, you know, get to the limit. Yes,

538
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: and you know he just gave him a high five

539
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: to the face. So It wasn't really a slap. It

540
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: was just like a high five to the face.

541
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

542
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: And what did you do?

543
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: Did you catch the guy? Did you help him up

544
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: with what you do? I didn't know his reaction. I

545
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get up and swing, so I'm the

546
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: whole closest thing to him was my foot. So my

547
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: my leg just got jumping and kicking. I don't know

548
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: how it happened. I was trying to grab my leg,

549
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: but it's just not kicking it. And it ended up

550
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: until the business is all while you were trying to

551
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: make the grizzly. Yeah, that's probably why I got that

552
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: again because he was hoopid. But come up to him.

553
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. You know, you made Sacramento destination.

554
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: So you ended up getting traded here. You and Brent

555
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: Price were traded for Jason Williams and Nick Anderson.

556
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: Brent Price and he was March.

557
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark's brother was traded for you. J will and

558
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Nick Anderson was only one two parts of the trade.

559
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: What was your first reaction coming here? Obviously you've seen

560
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: the season before, the love, the fans, the energy, and

561
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 1: Sacramento to me is second to none. You get traded here.

562
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: First of all, what was your reaction? And then who

563
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: some of your vets that you kind of leaned on

564
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: because you're coming into your fourth year.

565
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, my fourth year, I was just I was surprised,

566
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just couldn't. I was

567
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: in disbelief. I coudn't believe it happened. But my thing

568
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: was where I was playing. You know, back then, they

569
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: played inside out, So you're throwing the post, stand over

570
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: here and hopefully the ball will come back out to you.

571
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: So I remember first day of practice, I passed it

572
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: cut through and I looked up and the ball was

573
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: hit me in the head. And I'm not used to

574
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm used to passing and going cut through and just

575
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: go to the side and the ball hit me.

576
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: So couch career rest in peace. Rights to coach.

577
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: He was like, be right to be careful. You go through,

578
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: it's going to hit you and hit you in the face.

579
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: I said, I see that ship now. But it was

580
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: just something that I wasn't used to. You know, I can't.

581
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: I came here and got to play basketball again, you know,

582
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: instead of just throwing the post that the two stars

583
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: go to work and if they get in trouble, be

584
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: the third fourth option, you know. So I mean just

585
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: coming here, it was just it was life changing for me.

586
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you guys arguably had to cut you off.

587
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Probably the best Sacramento teams to date. You know, obviously

588
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: these young teams are trying to make a name for

589
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: themselves and you know what Mike Brown is building out here.

590
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: But your guys's teams in the early two thousands were

591
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the ship. So name some of the guys you had

592
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: on that team and what kind of fun because obviously

593
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: you guys were very entertaining, ball, moving forward, making plays.

594
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, everybody is out here shooting and doing things

595
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: and to more to your style, But what kind of

596
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: chemistry did that team have, because that's what I fell.

597
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So I was at UCLA during this time, you know,

598
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: lifelong Laker fan, but then moving to Sacramento in nine

599
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: years old, like you kind of get accustomed to, you know,

600
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: the team. So I'm a big Laker. I'm a big

601
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Kings fan in college. So I'm out here trying to

602
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: represent the Kings at UCLA. Almost getting a couple of

603
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: real fights because motherfucker's talking to Fuck Sacramento. Fuck you

604
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: fuck sacrament of fuck. Well, let's let's do this then,

605
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm out here fighting

606
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: for these motherfuckers while I'm in college. But what kind

607
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: of chemistry did you guys develop one on the court,

608
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: but second off the court? Because I know Web is

609
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: one of your life along homies, you guys at page

610
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: of V Lottie, Doug Black, Bobby Uh, you know coach

611
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Rick Adamman, like you guys had a squad.

612
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: It was good.

613
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean.

614
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is all those guys that were coming

615
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: off the bench eventually went somewhere and starts yeah.

616
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Young hto Yeah, so Gerald Waller.

617
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: So they always they used to be a lot in practice, the.

618
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Second team, I tell we tell people all the time,

619
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: like you guys are started as I was a starter

620
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: in coming off the bench. So the second team and

621
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: back in the day in the NBA practice like it

622
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: wasn't no like it is today. Come in, get some shots,

623
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: walk through shit, and get out of here. Like we

624
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: used to go to war with the first teams, and

625
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams that were really good. You

626
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: asked some of the players, like the second teams were

627
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: nice too. I used to them, h e m them

628
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: used to as did me throw that out there? Go ahead? No,

629
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: I was just saying how good the second team and

630
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: how competitive those those early But.

631
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: But the biggest thing was off the court, like you said,

632
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: and I think v Lotti was a ring leader of that.

633
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: It was never Is it true that Bloody smokes cigarettes

634
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: at halftime? I seen him before again was it a Newports?

635
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: So the thing the bathroom stalls this high as headid.

636
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: So I go to use the bathroom. He's in there,

637
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Like I said, you're smoking a fucking cigarettes. And he

638
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: just got it done real quick and just threw it

639
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: out and went to warm up. But Lotti was the

640
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Bloody was I kind of like the ring leader of everything,

641
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: made sure everything was cool calm. Of course, Web was

642
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: the leader of the team. But off the court of Lotti,

643
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: you never seen his demeanor change whether he scored two

644
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: points or he scored thirty points. You always get the

645
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: same blody no matter what. And I kind of looked

646
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: up to that. You know, when I got traded to Atlanta,

647
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: I kind of took that Lotty's and going into Atlanta,

648
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I didn't want to go to Atlanta.

649
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go to Cleveland. I was supposed

650
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: to get trade to Cleveland that year or the year

651
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: before too, and I end up going to Atlanta. You know,

652
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: a lot of young guys, a real good team, but young, right,

653
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, where am I going to

654
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: fit in on this team? And that's where I kind

655
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: of fit in at taking Botty's role.

656
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, let's not you get hold on, you know, back

657
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: up a little bit and get into some of this

658
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: king ship before you just try to send yourself to Atlanta.

659
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Year one, sixty one games, the number one seed in

660
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: the West. You're cooking in the playoffs. Round one, you

661
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: guys beat Utah and John Stockton. Round two, you guys

662
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: beat Steve Nash and Dirk. What are some of the

663
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: best memories, because in particularly, I mean you cooked all playoffs,

664
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: but particularly I mean obviously hall of famer in John Stockton,

665
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: hall of Famer and Steve Nash. What do you remember

666
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: most about those first two rounds matching up against those

667
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: legendary point guards where you were the better point guard

668
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: in both matchups.

669
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: I was nervous. Fuck, I was nervous now coming in

670
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: That's the first time I ever been to the playoffs.

671
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: That why I used to bite your nails and shit,

672
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: was that not always all your conduct sports and and

673
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: cutting nails during the game. I'm like, what is this

674
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: is when I start to pick and stuff when I

675
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean. So it's just I

676
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: think playing Stockton in the first round, my first ever playoff,

677
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: got me ready for the rest of the time. And

678
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: when I first came here and my agent told me,

679
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: like they already established, I don't need you to go

680
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: in there and try to score twenty. I don't need

681
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: to try to go and do this. Fit in, And

682
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: that's why I came to fit in.

683
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: You say, I was just I was just trying to

684
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: fit in and play off these guys, and like I said,

685
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: we're playing off the big men and now instead of

686
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: you know, me making all the plays. So it was

687
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: just I think playing Stockton and being you know, in

688
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: our top environment got me ready for the whole thing.

689
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two Western Conference Finals arguably one of

690
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the most memorable finals in league history. You guys are

691
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: up three two, win game five, you hit a game

692
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: you hit the game winner in game five. I think

693
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 1: it put us up one maybe, but they ended up

694
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: winning the game.

695
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: Walking through that play, I remember going out and I

696
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: just told Webb the players for web to see you

697
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: web to make a play and I told I told Webb,

698
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: I said, well, if you don't shoot it, I'm gonna

699
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: knock it down. You give it to me. And I

700
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: just told him, I said, I knock it down to

701
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: get me involved.

702
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: So you came off the baseline, came off a pick.

703
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that he threw. I threw it to him,

704
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: he popped out, threw it, came off a handoff and

705
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, I shoot that shot all day million times sleep. Yeah,

706
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: So I knew, like I expected to make it. I

707
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: put the work in that when I missed, that's.

708
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

709
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: And I mean, that's just that's what my mindset. I

710
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: was strong mind, and my mindset was I put enough

711
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: work in that I'm gonna knock these shots down.

712
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: So it starts getting a little fuzzy. Game six where

713
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: talked was about Game six. One ref that was in

714
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: this series was arrested by the Way for cheating and

715
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: this was a game that they definitely got cheated, but

716
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: talked to us about the game. Also was a refinour

717
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: series in Golden state. You got kicked out, that didn't you.

718
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember the night before, you know, I was

719
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: in l a talking man ship.

720
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: You're not really big ship talking. But I kind of

721
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: find out like I used to watch, like when you

722
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: played the Lakers, you had a little different swagger about

723
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: you when you played.

724
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: Like they made me like that. I didn't want to

725
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: be like that. You know, you go to LA they

726
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: talk shitty when you're walking down the court. You're standing there,

727
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: mind your business, and they get you started. You know,

728
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: they poke a sleeping beer. I'm just out there doing

729
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: my job and they kind of wake up. I'd like

730
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: playing there, you know what I mean. But the night

731
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: before the game, we had a guy named Chuckie Brown,

732
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: you know, a fourteen year VET, and he was like,

733
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I said, shit, I'm talking, I'm talking ship. I'm on

734
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: the red cars at the movie things. It's over radio stations,

735
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: and you know, he tells me, like, be careful because

736
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: it's it's not what it seems like bullshit in no way.

737
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: And so I'm obviously you seen what happen in the game.

738
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, we were definitely the better team that year.

739
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: I know that for sure, but I still can't I

740
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: still can't watch I still can't watch the tip out

741
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: and shot like I watched the highlights of it.

742
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: But when it comes to that turning off, I mean,

743
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: with all due respect to those Laker teams, because they

744
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: were great, I mean I felt I think a lot

745
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: of people felt like you were guys were the best

746
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: team in the league. Obviously, the next round they walked

747
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: through New Jersey, New Jersey with the sweep. Yeah, for us,

748
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: swept the ship out of them. But I mean, you

749
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: guys were the.

750
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: Better team than them, guarantee. I mean I know that

751
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: for a fact. You know, you could, you could you

752
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: could see, you could you could see the look on

753
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: their faces that you were it was over. Yeah, you

754
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I mean it's just good

755
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: to see, like basketball players know when you see that

756
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: look of defeat. They had the look of defeat, and

757
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: you could tell.

758
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to any former Lakers about that?

759
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: Hold on? What? Huh?

760
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: What didn't make sense? Y'all was not the better team?

761
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Y'all lost? No the better team one stop it. Don't

762
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: do that. Don't do that.

763
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: Ain't no way, y'all. We shipped the bend in Game seven,

764
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: but it shouldn't even went to Game seven. This might

765
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: have been over. It should have been over in five.

766
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all have that. So you guys were like,

767
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: if I recall, like I said, I.

768
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: We shout, we shout the free throw line.

769
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: But you guys were like two for fifteen or two

770
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: for three from three under fifty percent.

771
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: From under fifty percent from the floor.

772
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: You guys also went to the and also went to

773
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: overtime though, right, yeah, you guys as bad as you

774
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: guys played the show. Jelani was on that team. By

775
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: the way, stop it. I'm gonna do that. Johnny was

776
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: a the better team. Take your John.

777
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 3: Definitely.

778
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't so I did have a

779
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: good take us back though. Obviously the ball gets tipped out.

780
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Cod misses a shot, right, Coke takes Doug guards and well,

781
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: Cod misses a shot. Who tipped it out? Bloody Lottie

782
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: tips it? So your teammate tips it out. We actually

783
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: talked to Rob We had Robert Ori on the pod

784
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: last season and he told us about it. But walk

785
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: us through that. So Cod misses a shot, do you exhale, like, okay,

786
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: we got this, tip it out? We're gonna run the

787
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: clock out walking through that place.

788
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm back back in that day when we were playing.

789
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to remount, you know, so a lot

790
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: of the guards don't remind back then because that's how

791
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: the bigs get their money. So get out of here,

792
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: a little feller. So that's all you tell. So that's

793
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: why you all see guards hanging around outside. But I'm

794
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: just thinking, you know, they the ball boy teld they

795
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: were getting our champagne ready in the back and he

796
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: had to clean it all up.

797
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: And but.

798
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: I just remember sitting there watching the tip and I

799
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: just watch it, and I mean, it's just anybody but him.

800
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but I mean.

801
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: Even if it's like a babble or tip of something different,

802
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: because much time. Yeah, so it's just it's heart It

803
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: was heartbreaking for me. You know, that would have been

804
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, championship for the city Sacramento and for myself.

805
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 3: They turned this ship out to the the person who

806
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: hit four threes in the same spour other championship four

807
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 3: years straight.

808
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's funny though. Anyway, that ship with the

809
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: Robert Horry got all people supposed with friends like this,

810
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Who needs me I'm just saying with anybody, could with

811
00:37:52,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: anybody and went straight to not the damn uh should

812
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: with the fishing. Our fish would hit this show. You know,

813
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: they called that on.

814
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: They let that one go. They didn't see that one.

815
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: They broke my nose.

816
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: He didn't see it missed. They happened to miss that one. Yeah, yeah,

817
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: and we're down. We're down one like fourteen seconds, leter.

818
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: Often we get the ball back, you know what I mean,

819
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: who knows what happens, That's what I'm saying. I didn't.

820
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: I thought he broke it too. I mean, it was

821
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: a it was a good it was a good old

822
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: school movie. He hit me with But he's basketball, you

823
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

824
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: So who hit you?

825
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: Kobe? He keep me with a like he was like,

826
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: could go And because I remember, yeah, hmmm.

827
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: File on Mike's face, right, that's how you calling. Wouldn't

828
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: called it on Kobe in the fourth quarter. So you

829
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: end up averaging all said and done, twenty points in

830
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you show forty the three point line. You're

831
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: blessed with a seven year, eighty million dollar deal. How

832
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: does life change after that?

833
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Where we live now?

834
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

835
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: The rookie contracts back then, the.

836
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: Word much very minimal, you know, right, remember when I

837
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: got my first Yeah, but we're gonna go to that.

838
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: We don't go so talk about how your life change.

839
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: If we're going backtrack on Jack got his first check?

840
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Oh you want to do that first? No, talk about

841
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: how light change you.

842
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: Just I just you know, I hugged my mom and said,

843
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: we made it. You know what I mean. It was

844
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: just I mean it was just a great feeling, you know,

845
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: coming from nothing and being able to take care of

846
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: your whole family. No, it's great.

847
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: All we talked about them.

848
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked.

849
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: So let's backtrack a little bit. What year is this for?

850
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: What year? I'll set it up, but what year is it?

851
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: Probably ninety seven, ninety seven?

852
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: What but you got you got your little check that

853
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: we're about to tell the story.

854
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: Still in school.

855
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mike's said Mice in Arizona, steal Stad gets

856
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars check. Did they try to

857
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: go to the bank seven straight day in cash?

858
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: No, we try to go seven straight days to get it.

859
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: They wouldn't give it to it. They wouln't put it

860
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: in my hand. He kept telling like.

861
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: The agents, and my agents say I could get if

862
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 2: it comes here, I can get tomorrow and come back.

863
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: To my around the house. Yeah, waiting for it. So

864
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: they was about to rob this bank on the final day, Mike,

865
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and they about to set it off moves. But on

866
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: the final seventh day, they finally give you the twenty

867
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: five thousand. I'm gonna let y'all take it from here. Yeah,

868
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: we make it happen. And it's me, Mike, his sister,

869
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: and my brother. We in the car.

870
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: You come in the check, you come. He kept the

871
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: check and go in the bank. So I'm coming into

872
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: my car and just waiting for him, and he just

873
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: come in and he just start counting.

874
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it, like, so there's a real

875
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: money he did. Y'all really still your whole.

876
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: Life, right, So I'm looking at he counted. Let's go

877
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: to the mall.

878
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: Spend it all.

879
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: Twenty five thousand in the mall, about one hundred and

880
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars left. We bought every Jibo, paul A

881
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: man and everything I get. I want one for all

882
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: him too. We got we told them all down about

883
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: and we got pursed out.

884
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: See it, that was my money.

885
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: You got cursed off with me. He said, that's the

886
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: last check Steve seen. My mam had never put a

887
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: check in my hand after that.

888
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: Check. To man, that was fun. That was fun. Man.

889
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: That was yeah, because it was my money, my money.

890
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: That's like, it's fun.

891
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh man, next season the team is is is just

892
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: as good Chris Webbers as a c L the second

893
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: round because versus Dallas.

894
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: How was that?

895
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: I remember that too, because I mean it was a

896
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: close game and you know, he was gonna he was

897
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna spend I'm gonna spin off and throw me the

898
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: live I'm like, I looked at the I mean, like

899
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: game scoring time. So I'm it's like a close game,

900
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: Like I'll just throw it up. Just catch it, you know,

901
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: just don't He's like, I just throw it. I'm gonna go.

902
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: If I don't dunk it, I'm gonna catch it.

903
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, so y'all had a conversation for the play. Yes,

904
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: he goes.

905
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: He goes, I'm gonna spin off. I'm here and I'm

906
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: spin off throw it. I'm gonna if I don't dunk it,

907
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: I'll catch it. I'm like, right now, you want to

908
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: do that? And he was like, yeah, I'll catch it.

909
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: So I throw and it goes down. I'm like, ship,

910
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: I just I mean right, yeah, I know it was bad,

911
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: But like I said, where was our anchor for us?

912
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: And he's he's yeah, I played for a lot, I

913
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: played with a lot of superstars, and him he took

914
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: his accountability. Yes, like my fault. That was my fault.

915
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, you don't see a lot of superstars do

916
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: that now. And for him doing that, I kind of

917
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: respected that, and you know what I mean, kind of

918
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 2: it rubbed off on the team and everybody was held

919
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: accountable for what they did. If they messed up, It's

920
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: okay to mess up. Just you know, take it, just

921
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: move on to the next run.

922
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

923
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: I talked about how it was deep in the playoffs,

924
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: but there was any doubt in your mind from the team,

925
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: from the chances y'all went with everybody.

926
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: With the injuries and stuff that I was dealing.

927
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: With, it was gonna be tough, you know. I think

928
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: we had another chance to We went to Game seven

929
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: with Minnesota and we ended up losing.

930
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I think is that when Anthony Peeler elbow Kevin Garnett

931
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: in the face.

932
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he was here yet. I don't

933
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: think it was here yt we still I think that

934
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: might have been the next year. I think was after

935
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: we went to the Western consponse. We ended up losing

936
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: in seven in Minnesota. I think Web had a shot,

937
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: We're down two, making a shot three and ended up

938
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: losing by I think two. But I think I think

939
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: after that then they started breaking the team up and

940
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: decided and I think I think I'm window closed. I guess,

941
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we had a little bit left.

942
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: But I think the next year they traded you and Web,

943
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: I come.

944
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: To your team in four, and that's what they kind

945
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: of felt like Chris was coming off of injury. They

946
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: didn't feel the team was as strong. Chris has a

947
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: no trade. I still to this day don't know why

948
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: the motherfucker accepted the trade. But I mean we had

949
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: a conversation about it. But so we're in We just

950
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: packed for like a five game road trip. I think

951
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: it was a long trip, and we started in Dallas

952
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: and we here on ESPN. We get traded and then

953
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: we're heartbroken because I was a fan of this team,

954
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: like being from here, I'm finally on this team being

955
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the you know, this team feels

956
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: like they have enough to make another run. We're early

957
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: in was it January February?

958
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: We ended up playing you guys, I think on this

959
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: side like the same.

960
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: Trip, Like we were supposed to go to the team

961
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: we got traded to. So we get traded and we're

962
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: in Dallas and we're like, fuck it, let's go out

963
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: have a good night now. No, we're not going to

964
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: talk about what happened that night, because a lot of

965
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: shit happened. I think I passed out in the strip club,

966
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: was throwing up all day the next day on the

967
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: private plane flying flying to Philly. But it was sad though,

968
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: because again it.

969
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: Was yeah, you make good friends, family, and it could

970
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: be taken away from you. Yeah that quick.

971
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Where was my big brother? But like Mike was my dog,

972
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: Like me and Mike, Me and Mike.

973
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, you've become family and friends. Like

974
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't know Matt before he came here,

975
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And just be able to

976
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: be so close to Matt and me mass family, Matt

977
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: be close with our family to it, you know, it

978
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: changes lives.

979
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was big. So we went off to Philly,

980
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: which was the worst two years of my fucking life.

981
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: Horrible.

982
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: It was the first time and I'm a West Coast

983
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: for life. So I'm out there and chucks and white

984
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: T shirts and this coat is a bitch, like I'm

985
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: on the jacket. I don't know, no real shoes, like,

986
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck this is. So I'm

987
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: just out there smoking weed for two years, playing video games,

988
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: taking Webb's money, and man, I'm not getting no playing time.

989
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm gonna be in the NBA

990
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: no more or not. But I'm miserable. But I'm out

991
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: there doing my thing off the court though. You better

992
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: believe that jacket. On the court, I wasn't shit, but

993
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: off the court, I was nice. So the trade happens

994
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: February two thousand and five, me Weave and Michael Bradley

995
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: are traded for Kenny Thomas Simon, John Simmons, John Sammon,

996
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: a couple other people. He was doing my thing off

997
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: the court? What doing ship on the court? What doing

998
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: my thing off? You gotta win somewhere, So what is so?

999
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: What's your mindset again? You come to Sacramento? This is

1000
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: this is you know one of your top destinations. You

1001
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: come here, you guys make runs very close to cracking

1002
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: egg and getting all the way. So Web gets traded,

1003
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: and what's kind of your mindset after that?

1004
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Kind of like it's my team, Like it's kind of

1005
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: like my team to take to take over because it

1006
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: was Web's team, right and I think that needed a

1007
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: leader or not. I felt I was right for that

1008
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: position just as far as I mean just of the

1009
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: work and the time I put into basketball, I think

1010
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: it was my time.

1011
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: H So you end up getting traded, You play a

1012
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: couple more seasons, Sack, you get traded to Atlanta, a

1013
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: young team. You still go out there and put up

1014
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: very solid numbers. You guys pushed the Celtics that year

1015
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: to seven games. They end up winning the championship the year.

1016
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: But what was that experience? Like, you go from Vancouver,

1017
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: small city, not very good, coming to Sacramento, small city,

1018
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: but live a really good team. So now you're off

1019
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: to Atlanta with the young team an atmophere that Jack

1020
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: absolutely loves in Atlanta. But what was that experience like

1021
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: for you?

1022
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: It was good? Like it was different, it was a

1023
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: different role for me.

1024
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: Uh. By the way, Jack has his his jersey retired

1025
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: in street three strip clubs in Atlanta, still on the wall,

1026
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: Captain trick. We go ahead, Oh, I.

1027
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 2: Mean cause I was supposed to get traded to Cleveland,

1028
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: like Atlanta. I was supposed to get traded to Cleveland

1029
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: the year before, and now I supposed to get traded

1030
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: to Cleveland the next year too. But you know, I

1031
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: woke up from an app and my son comes in, like, Dad,

1032
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: you just got traded.

1033
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, no idea.

1034
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: He's like, I said to wear he said the Hawks.

1035
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: I said, never talked to the Hawks. And so my

1036
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: agents like, oh, let me call you back. It was

1037
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: like right burnt right before All Star break. And he's like,

1038
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: so I could out David I got traded. He's like, no,

1039
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: you didn't get traded. You got to wait till after

1040
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: I said, David some fucking ESPN. He was like, oh,

1041
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: let me call you back. So he got with Dad.

1042
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, they did trade you. He said,

1043
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: that's like one of the two because David was very

1044
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: powerful man, and David could block the trades if he

1045
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: wanted to, if they if he knew. So two trades

1046
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: he never heard about is when I got traded from

1047
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: here to Atlanta, and from Atlanta to to Washington. I

1048
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: played two games for the Wizards Tam and he didn't

1049
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: know about him because they he probably would have blocked them.

1050
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: But going to Atlanta, that was a different role for me.

1051
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't need me to do all the

1052
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: scoring that I was doing here, And like I said,

1053
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: I took the role that lot he had here. I

1054
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: kind of took her to the younger guys, you know,

1055
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, Al Horford was a rookie, Josh Smith was

1056
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: a couple of years out, Marvin Williams, Josh Chill, just

1057
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: Joe Johnson. So we had a pretty good young team.

1058
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: And like I said, my role was gonna change. They

1059
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: didn't need me to score. And you know, I said

1060
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 2: a lot of picks. I did a lot of pass

1061
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: and I think I mean, like in practice, we are

1062
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: having fun. Like I made trips, like when we get

1063
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: when we get to where we're going, the whole team

1064
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: is going to go eat some dinner, go go to

1065
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: the mall, walk around the mall, and everybody was buying it.

1066
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: And so everybody was.

1067
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: On the trips and they kind of got a camaraderie

1068
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: together and everybody start feeling comfortable with start film good

1069
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: and started winning games. I think the next year there,

1070
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: I think we won fifty one of the years we

1071
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: won fifty two games. Being from Atlanta not making a

1072
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: tournament the playoffs for ten years kind of like, I

1073
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: feel like I did my job what I needed to

1074
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: do to get there, and it wasn't always just scoring.

1075
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: You know, what do you remember about that your first

1076
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: year out there, when you guys played that Boston team

1077
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: with KG, Paul Ray Allen and Rondo.

1078
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: Like I said, it was the first time. I think

1079
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: Joe Johnson and me are only two people on the

1080
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: team that played in a playoff game. And I mean

1081
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: the atmosphere in Atlanta was crazy. We were getting our

1082
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: ass kicked the Boston every time we went, but we

1083
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: were holding our own in Atlanta, and I mean it

1084
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: was just tough. They were tough teams, and like I said,

1085
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: we had our own. It took the championship, took the

1086
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: champions in seven games.

1087
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: Signing with the Heat March second, twenty eleventh, after clear

1088
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: wais I wasn't playing with the Heat and that experience,

1089
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: we talked about it, so we talked about it.

1090
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the Big Three. So that's Bosh Wade.

1091
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: It was the first year, and I mean it was

1092
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: just different, you know what I mean. It was it

1093
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: wasn't something I was used to doing. It just wasn't

1094
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: a good experience for me.

1095
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1096
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: I mean a great organization, great coach of great Riley, great,

1097
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: everything is great, it just wasn't for me, you know

1098
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. And and just I didn't want to.

1099
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 2: I thought I still had a little bit more left.

1100
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: That's why I left Washington. They wanted me the kind

1101
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: of prep John wall and I thought I had. I

1102
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: thought I still had some juice left. And so that's

1103
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: why I ended up leaving Washington and try to go

1104
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: get a championship player over there. And it just wasn't

1105
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: for me, Like to go stand in the corner and

1106
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: wade and wade so much pressure on shots. It wasn't

1107
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: for me. And you know, after that year, I was done.

1108
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: I felt like I was done. Like you know, I

1109
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: ad I'm done. And Mike Woodson goes to New York

1110
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 2: and ends up saying, come play one more year. I'm like, Woody,

1111
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm done. I ain't got normal fight if I don't

1112
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: want to like, if I'm going to do something, I

1113
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: want to be all in. And I wasn't all in.

1114
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is after you play a

1115
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: long time, like you feel it like I had an opportunity.

1116
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: I saw had two more years of my deal when

1117
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I retired. But when, like you said, when that fight

1118
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: leaves you and you realize, like, damn, I'm missing a

1119
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: lot of time with my family, my kids growing up,

1120
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: stuff that I'll never get back. We could be playing.

1121
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously, the NBA is where everyone wants to

1122
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: make but when that fight leaves you, it's a different feeling,

1123
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Who ever think like how

1124
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: could you not want to? But like that NBA is

1125
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: a grind and you travel a lot, and all though

1126
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: the money is good and it's we're not complaining, it

1127
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: becomes to wear on you, you know what I mean,

1128
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: once you but.

1129
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: To get prepared for it is what I didn't want

1130
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: to do anymore. You know, I work my ass Steve

1131
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: those why come to work with that? And and so

1132
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean I just didn't have an in me anymore.

1133
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: And then when I went to New York, he know

1134
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: what he was like, come play company? So I ended

1135
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: up going to play, but it was like, I'm here

1136
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: if you need me, but I'm fine over. Don't feel

1137
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: like you feel to feel obligated to play me. I'm cool.

1138
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: I worked out already, a shot all the stuff before

1139
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: the game. I'm cool over here. You know, he come,

1140
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean, what he took care of me, what he

1141
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: would come down to mansion would blow out, do you

1142
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: want to go in? Sometimes like now, I'm good and

1143
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: sometimes that ship I'm getting to play a little bit,

1144
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: you know, But I mean it was it was over.

1145
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: What was the experience like with Brown d Wade? How

1146
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: good was d Wade at that time?

1147
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: I think I think it was still d Ways. I

1148
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: mean it was the Ways team was Lebron's first year.

1149
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: But I get the Way is like a freak. You know,

1150
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: he's probably six to three, jump out the gym long arms,

1151
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: and he's just an athletic monster, you know, and just

1152
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: playing with those guys, like I said, it was different

1153
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: playing with three superstars. You know, only get like one

1154
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: maybe one and a half, you know, playing with three,

1155
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: like I said, it was a different role for me

1156
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: that I wasn't used to that I've never done in

1157
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: my life. And I mean, like I said, it wasn't.

1158
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't for me.

1159
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: What about Bron How is it playing with Broun?

1160
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: It was like a superhuman you know what I mean.

1161
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean he probably weighed about he was probably the

1162
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: heaviest gun on the team. Run that fast and jumping

1163
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: that high.

1164
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Crazy.

1165
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: I needed some of that stuff, whatever it was, I

1166
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: needed that. But I mean it's just like like he

1167
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: like he was the heaviest on the team, and to

1168
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: be able to jump that high and run that fast,

1169
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's unseen.

1170
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: So as you said, you end up going to New York.

1171
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: This is a loaded New York team with Mellow and

1172
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Mari Stodamar j R. Smith, our brother, Baron, Davis Tyson,

1173
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: Chandler Shump. Any funny stories just about that team on

1174
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: the bus, on the plane, in the locker room, just

1175
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: saying those names in one it makes me.

1176
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: I mean it was good. You know, Baron, I love Bear.

1177
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: That's where were kind of Yeah, so Baron and we

1178
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: were just out some Chima Baron, but Baron, him and

1179
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: Jared Jefferies they both had bad knees. And you know

1180
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, Baron said they made a bet who's

1181
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt first.

1182
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it was real bad. Jared Jeffery, Jared Jefferies and Bearn.

1183
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: They made a bed, right, so Baron one. Yeah, Baron's

1184
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: out on the floor.

1185
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: His leg is like this way.

1186
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: So we go out there to help him up, and

1187
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: he looked bad. He said, I won to Jered, I

1188
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: mean in the middle of the territors.

1189
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: They yeah, Baron blew his whole knee up. I don't

1190
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember, but Baron's whole knee. He

1191
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: was driving down the lane going for a lab his

1192
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: whole entire knee blew up. And the first thing he

1193
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: says to Jared Jefferies is I want I would not surprised. So,

1194
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: I mean it was good.

1195
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean it was a good experience for me there too,

1196
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, being in New York, playing

1197
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: in the garden and you know, playing for the same

1198
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: team that my dad played for two you know, I mean,

1199
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: so just being in that environment, being New York was

1200
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: a good, good situation.

1201
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: What's your relationship did you have a relationship with cob

1202
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Obviously years of battling same you played together, but.

1203
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean it was like, no respectful every time you've

1204
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: seen each other and like I said, you know, I

1205
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: always gave me love, and I mean it's just not

1206
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: trying not to bother people outside here in.

1207
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: This real, real close squiet dude, Any any good stories

1208
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: on or off the court with him, ship talking or

1209
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: the chilling or no, no, not.

1210
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: That goold say out here now, talk about playing in

1211
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: the Big Three. Obviously, me and you both helped ice

1212
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: Cube with this Big Three league. We both started off

1213
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: as captains. Uh I won two of the championship at

1214
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: the last three. But talk about that experience and just

1215
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: being able to be someone that's the face of a

1216
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: black on lead something that Cube uh started to do

1217
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 3: and a way to give players like us a chance

1218
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: to continue to play professionally on a high level.

1219
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: It was amazing, you know.

1220
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, I got a call from QBE and

1221
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, well whatever it was, cubit said they were

1222
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna go uh cut some grass for a little bit down.

1223
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with you. I looked up the Cube,

1224
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: I looked listen to his music growing up, and I

1225
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 2: mean it was just the best situation. Like you remember

1226
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: that first year. I mean, we're selling out. You know,

1227
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: there's about seventeen th eighteen thousand people coming to watch

1228
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: three on three basketball and just you know, just for

1229
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: Cube to even think of us like that, I think

1230
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: it's like that crazy man. It's just it's just crazy

1231
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: to be a part of that. Shout out ice Cube

1232
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: and the Big Three.

1233
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't understand how the lives he's saving a

1234
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: lot of guys don't need that money too.

1235
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you get the coaching bug? I coached

1236
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: my son. I've been coaching him since he was nine.

1237
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: But I'll do it when I wasn't playing, So Raymond,

1238
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: my cousin, Raymon would coach while I, well I was gone,

1239
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 2: so he had coached it. When I come back, I'll

1240
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: coach them. So we had no I mean they were

1241
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: learning nine years old, ten year old, doing learning NBA

1242
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: stuff and you know, I mean I was teaching the kids,

1243
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: and you know, you get you get you get soft

1244
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: spot for kids. Wanted to help kids. You know a

1245
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: lot of my team was kids didn't really have much.

1246
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: You know, I took care of everything. Jordans, Jordan Brand

1247
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: gave me something to My contract is for them too

1248
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: as well. You know, so I got uniform shoes. So

1249
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: we're all in Jordan, you know, at that age, all

1250
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: in Jordan, anybody want to play for you? And I've

1251
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: been coaching ever since then, and I end up coaching

1252
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: in high school. I wasn't gonna really coach. I was

1253
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: go coach in the au and just let it go.

1254
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: But I saw it was high school coaching. One time

1255
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: I went to one of the practices and I said,

1256
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: I gotta, I got to help the team because I

1257
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: don't want my son here. I want my son to

1258
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: learn and get better and be able to, you know,

1259
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: fulfill dream he might have. And that's when I just

1260
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: started coaching. And I mean I take it seriously. I mean,

1261
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: we've had practice, shoot arounds, watch film, We'll do stuff

1262
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: we did in the NBA. This we're gonna cover this.

1263
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna cover this this way and if it doesn't work,

1264
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: and cover it this way. The defensive rotation. So I

1265
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: was really putting the time in and really care about

1266
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: these kids and what they do, not just on the court,

1267
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: but making a better man off the court.

1268
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: That's why my kids, we all we talked about the

1269
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: joint collection. We know you got probably top two, if

1270
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: not you know, if not number one, joint collection. I

1271
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: know that I've seen it. You got any memorable stories

1272
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: or stories you could tell about MJ.

1273
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: With MJ, he brought all of us to a dinner

1274
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: one time. I mean, it wasn't as many as there

1275
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: is now, and I mean he just went down the

1276
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: line and picked everybody, took a patch of everybody's ass,

1277
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: and I just and I was he came to me

1278
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: and I just plipt my head down. He just said, Mike,

1279
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: you don't say much, so I'm gonna let you go.

1280
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: And he just went on to the next but shut down.

1281
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: He went by Carmelo ray Allen, and he went by

1282
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: Derrick and he.

1283
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: Went down the line and like knock, like what their weaknesses.

1284
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Now, he was just talking shit like he told c

1285
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: said somethingbouts I play defense. I got two points. Said

1286
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: that don't mean you're a good defenser. Defender, that means

1287
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: you good anticipated So I mean he just I mean

1288
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: he would go all the way down line just ship talk. Yeah,

1289
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: he just he left me out. So that's probably one.

1290
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Of the good time. So when Mike get nervous, he

1291
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: turned real weird, Like how some white people's cheese get flushed,

1292
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Mike's get that flush.

1293
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: What's your observation on the kings now lighting the mother

1294
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: fucking beings.

1295
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: So you're back in the family now one more time.

1296
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: Mike is a part of the King's family, and y'all

1297
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: have to see Mike all the time.

1298
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I love to see him always. You always

1299
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: want to see him do good.

1300
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1301
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: I think this is where my heart still is. You know,

1302
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of my time here, Like I said,

1303
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: I got was here for almost seven years, got a

1304
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: lot of friends, and my heart's here for to seeing

1305
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: them finally start doing good and everybody getting back until

1306
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: I love to see it like it's Matt said, being

1307
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: a part of the NBC sports stuff. You know, I

1308
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: think it's just a it's gonna be great for me

1309
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: just to be a part of the team.

1310
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: Againe Dope Dope, all right, man, Well, I hope you

1311
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: guys are in Jersey in there though. No, Bro, there's

1312
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: a store. Now there's a gang. I'm like, well, there's

1313
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: a real number ten in town. Now, the best number ten.

1314
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: The best number ten is the current number ten. Huh.

1315
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Now you still want to put it up? Yeah, come

1316
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: on now. Yeah, we're gonna talk to some people about that. Yeah. Yeah,

1317
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: that shit definitely need to be in the raptors. But

1318
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: I will hope you guys have enjoyed this so far.

1319
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: Right now we're coming down to the tail end. This

1320
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: is called quick hitters. So first scene to come to mind.

1321
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Let us know, and you can go back and relive

1322
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: one night of your career on the court, not off

1323
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: the court. We're not talking about off the court. Ship

1324
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: one game in your career. Break it down, what would

1325
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: that be and go back and change it? No, just

1326
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: just ReLit it one more time, Like tomorrow, you're gonna

1327
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: go play that game.

1328
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say a game, I would say getting drafted.

1329
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: Just I mean, it's like a dream come true. Like

1330
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: my I was never big headed to where like I'm

1331
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: walking around I'm gonna be this pick coming up. When

1332
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: it when it finally happened, it was it was the

1333
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: greatest feeling in the world because you you you look

1334
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: at it as a kid wanted to be there and

1335
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: finally coming from nothing, you finally get to do it.

1336
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the biggest thing that ever happened in

1337
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: my life.

1338
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: You pledge for going to black and play on the

1339
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: black Top. Who you bringing, I'm bringing, y'all. I gotta

1340
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: bring y'all to it just in case you gotta fight.

1341
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: You know we was gonna be first take. I knew

1342
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: it already.

1343
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: I got I got them to uh that I played

1344
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: with or just for you four I gotta go m J,

1345
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: m J and Shack I gotta take.

1346
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and Dane's gonna be the coach. Uh your

1347
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: top say security Now, I like a coastic could fight,

1348
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: So we're gonna let you be coached. Uh. Top five

1349
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: Brand Jordan models of all time. I'm not a model,

1350
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: so you know they don't don't count me.

1351
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: In that eleven? One five, four three threes?

1352
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: Yes? Lord?

1353
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: How is that four? H so like one three four eleven?

1354
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I like the nine, the nine. Only person I've ever

1355
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: heard say like the nine. If y'all like me, you

1356
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck he just said. Just gonna look,

1357
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: just gonna look those numbers up. Top five din against

1358
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: dead or live. Five people you want at your dinner table,

1359
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: dead or live pop mm hmm.

1360
01:02:53,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali, mum, M, Mike Tyson, m Jackie Robinson, Uh, Biggie,

1361
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: the hell of the table, Mike.

1362
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: Who do you want to see on all the smoke

1363
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: burn out? Who you want to see on all the smoke.

1364
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 3: But before you answer that question, you have to help

1365
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: us get your answer on the show. Who I'm sucking

1366
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: all over this question? M j oh, hold on, hold on,

1367
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: hold on, We need your help, Mike.

1368
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: We have to simultaneously text this brother, all right.

1369
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: I think we can work up from both angers, because

1370
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: he actually said he would do it when I talked

1371
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: to him.

1372
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: But I think me and you being both on George,

1373
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: I think we can. If you don't want to know

1374
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: me his number, I'll text that motherfucker too. Whatever. Yeah, right, well, man,

1375
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: we hope you guys appreciated this night, tonight or this day.

1376
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: Excuse me, give Mike Vibe a round them clause. Thank

1377
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: you for coming right George in the house. George was

1378
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: on the Laker teams, was on the teams. Thank you again,

1379
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: Urban Roots, Rob the whole family. We appreciate you. God

1380
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: give Urban Roots a round of the place. Yeah, stack

1381
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: of kidneys on your ass. And right now we're gonna

1382
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: do something a little different because obviously we love Sax,

1383
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get We're gonna take a handful of

1384
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: questions right now, So you guys have any questions for myself,

1385
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: Stack or Mike, raise your hand and we will bring

1386
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: you the microphone. Are you gonna come to the middle

1387
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: and get the microphone? Because this guy over here with

1388
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: the curly hair is looking confused. So we got some questions.

1389
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: Who wants a question? All right? Here, come on, step

1390
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: to the mic Oh you got here? Next, get line?

1391
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Hey, Mike, who do you think is the

1392
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: best point guard in Lake currently?

1393
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: And who do you think new player that resembles your game? Cool?

1394
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: I think Steph is the best point guard in the league.

1395
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: Anybody resembles me? I don't. The game has played a

1396
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: different way now, so.

1397
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1398
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't really an ISO guy like that. You know

1399
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff io now, so I really can't.

1400
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't really think anybody right now?

1401
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: Could you imagine might getting ten threes a game? Just

1402
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: off the rip? Could you imagine you shot so you

1403
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: shot maybe twelve fifteen shots a game. Can you imagine

1404
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: playing in this era getting you know, I'm gonna get

1405
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: eight ten threes every night?

1406
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: The most I think I ever averaged threes was like

1407
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: six or tenths a game, right, you know, to shoot

1408
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: fifteen threes twenty threes game? Right, that'd be fun, a

1409
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 2: lot of fun.

1410
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: Next question, can you please share your fat Joe sneakers story?

1411
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, good one. Okay, he put he put a

1412
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: lot on it. But but you know he came to

1413
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: the house. You know he had like ten people with him. No,

1414
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: he's in my closet, and he I look back.

1415
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: First of all, this closet's like a fucking bedroom warehouse,

1416
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: the warehouse.

1417
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, I walk in and I look back. I shown

1418
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: the shoes that I have. So I looked back and

1419
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: I see like five of his guys with shoes that like,

1420
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: I only have one pair of Like, if I got more,

1421
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: I'll give shoes out if I have an extra payer,

1422
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: but I don't like one pairing. I was like, Joe,

1423
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't take all five. You could have one.

1424
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: And he ends up there was a shoe. I never

1425
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: made an All Star game, but they made a shoe

1426
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: for me just in case I made one. And I

1427
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: think there's only one pair of made, and I'm thumb humbled, like,

1428
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: please don't pick this one, Please don't pick this one.

1429
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: And he was looking around like and said, I'm gonna

1430
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: take these, and so he ended up taking them.

1431
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: What pair were they?

1432
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: The nine lows were like, there was like silver, yeah,

1433
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: ten on the back, but it was white with silver

1434
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: and he and he took him, he put him in

1435
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: the store. But I mean he was gonna do something

1436
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: for me, my sister. My daughter wanted to be a singer.

1437
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: And I said, I have no problem, you're taking the shoes,

1438
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: just do a song.

1439
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: With my daughter.

1440
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, prom did.

1441
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: You want to do the song? No?

1442
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: He was scared.

1443
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: But that's a lifelong offer. So you got someone else

1444
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: to be able to plug jail with a song. I didn't.

1445
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: I didn't rough him up. I didn't choke him. I didn't.

1446
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: I didn't do that like he says I did. But

1447
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: I was kind of heartbroken. That's what shit he took.

1448
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else. We got a couple more questions. Come on,

1449
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: step to the mic. Don't be scared, Matt.

1450
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: This person is for you.

1451
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: You want a bran man.

1452
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: I did not expect you to sound like that, all right,

1453
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 3: I ain't tipping. I'm not ain't chipping.

1454
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: Bro Hey, I ain't tip. You know what I'm saying.

1455
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: I did not expect you to sound like that, my nigga,

1456
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead on, do you what you do? I wouldn't

1457
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: leak for that, Okay.

1458
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: So Matt persure for you. So you want a championship

1459
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: with in twenty seventeen, do you have any good stories that.

1460
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Golden State team. I came into team late, got hurt

1461
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: right before the playoffs. But I think one thing I

1462
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: remember about that team is, you know, arguably that was

1463
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: one of the greatest teams in NBA history. But what

1464
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: I remember was to have Steph Clay, KD Dre, have

1465
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: a rock star coach and Steve Kerr. There was no egos.

1466
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: Everybody enjoyed coming to practice. We had fun on and

1467
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: off the court. Off days, the whole team was in

1468
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: getting extra work. So I just think the what I

1469
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: remember most is just the camaraderie. And then my twins

1470
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: at the time were like seven or eight, So when

1471
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: we won a championship, I got them championship rings, so

1472
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: they were able to get rings. But when we won

1473
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: the championship, like the twins were on stage like trying

1474
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: to check take the MVP trophy from KD take the

1475
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: championship pro like there's literally filming them like my homies, like, yo,

1476
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I see your kids on ESPN trying to steal his

1477
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: trophies from Stephen KD. So that experience was a great

1478
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: experience for me. And again, I think what I remember

1479
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: the most was just how much that team fucked with

1480
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: each other then trying to give me the same something.

1481
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: But it's them to let you go ahead. I ain't

1482
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm just saying any other questions, We've got

1483
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: a couple more. Anybody right here? Go ahead. I think

1484
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: you got a Mike Baby go Is that a Big

1485
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: Three jersey? Yeah? Comes on? Question? God, Daln you go next, Gina?

1486
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: What you what's your question? Gene? That is definitely one

1487
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in Big Three history too. Take

1488
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: that off. But I call I try to get you

1489
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: to be a captain with me.

1490
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: I would I'm already on some I already got somebody else.

1491
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: I would want me to gino. Go ahead, mister baby.

1492
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: I think we'd all like to hear your top five

1493
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: of all time? Yeah, I've got a question for you.

1494
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: I asked you that later on, Bro. But what kind

1495
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 1: of guy is in this beard? Is that just for me?

1496
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: Is that? Because I've heard head and shoulders got a

1497
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: new dog? Don't play? What's your your top five all time?

1498
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: Mike Jordan's Kobe Shack Labron Korean top five, top top

1499
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: five of all time.

1500
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: Nice? Nice, all right, that you got to go to

1501
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: Jersey on and the.

1502
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 6: Kings went through some crazy times obviously with possibly the

1503
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 6: thoughts of losing the team here years ago. Sacramento fought

1504
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 6: hard and went through crazy times, a lot of controversy.

1505
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 6: What was your thoughts and the fact that the Kings

1506
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 6: ever possibly losing their team to the enjoyment of actually

1507
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 6: keeping the team and being here forever.

1508
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: That would have been a bad move, you know what

1509
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean? Like this is probably one of the best

1510
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 2: basketball It's second one of the best fans I ever

1511
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: played in front of, no matter what team I was

1512
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: around clause I mean, like, I mean, it's different, Like

1513
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: you go to La. Play in La you can hear

1514
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: a pin drop. That's why I like playing there so much.

1515
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people didn't really come to

1516
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: watch the game. It's a lot of came to just

1517
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: be I mean, it's like a scene, you know what

1518
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: I mean. So I mean just playing for you guys

1519
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: is just the best fans that I mean, played for

1520
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: fourteen years, been to every stadium. You guys are the

1521
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: best fans.

1522
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: I seen so any more questions? We got two more. Anybody,

1523
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: don't be shy. A lot of people in here. How

1524
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: about a little man right here on Jack's team. You

1525
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: got a question in the back you want to ask?

1526
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: You don't be shy. Anybody say cool, and that's my problem.

1527
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: He cool. You gotta nice little gidio. What is your

1528
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: favorite parent jordanis to play in? And what is your

1529
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do in Sacramento outside of pooh?

1530
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Favorite shoot of playing was probably either of my nines

1531
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: or thirteen's nines were kind of narrow from my foot

1532
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: a little bit, but the thirteens, I'd probably say thirteens.

1533
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: And outside, I mean, I have a lot of friends

1534
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: here in family, so you know, I'll go people's house

1535
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: and the barbecue and stuff like that.

1536
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: So soun Tan, you don't do much of that.

1537
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 3: He'll come to your barbecue, but he bringing his own

1538
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 3: chicken fingers, you chicken fingers, and front he ain't eat

1539
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 3: your food because it a certain way.

1540
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: PRIs every day. But anybody, last question for Mike or

1541
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: for Stack, anybody who hasn't asked a question yet, going once?

1542
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: Come on, bro step up, Jane, you and because I

1543
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: say Mike bench pred spotting partner niggas spot might go

1544
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: to bench Press. Yeah.

1545
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 5: So other guests, you usually talk about artists and music

1546
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 5: and really big into music. What type of music do

1547
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: you like to listen to and in that genre? What's

1548
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 5: your top five artists you like listening to?

1549
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: All right, I love po pod is my favorite all

1550
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: the time. I'm I'm on money Bag, money bag yo.

1551
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm listening to all this stuff right now.

1552
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm just not old like I like ice Cube, I

1553
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: like Biggie, I like pop.

1554
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: You old school like us, old school music.

1555
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: But right now, right now, money bag yo is my

1556
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 2: favorite guy out right now.

1557
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: Well again, man, if you got yourself around to applause,

1558
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: give Mike round of applause. Thank you guys for coming out.

1559
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: Before we leave, we're gonna take a team photo, so

1560
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna stand in here. You guys are gonna stand

1561
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: behind us, so everyone's stand up real quick to make

1562
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: sure you get your ass in the photo. And we're

1563
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna do this, and thank you all for coming