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Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweem and welcome to the Not Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, July seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Skis, back in.

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Speaker 1: The Classic Factory and alongside me as always, tass.

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Speaker 2: Mellis Basketball lovers, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded one, a top shot boy,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and over Yonder making the

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Speaker 1: magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer JD.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Trey went to the wrong camera there.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, well it was a little different. It

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Speaker 1: was just the two guys, right, yeah, yeah, after the table.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm back in the mixed bag. J I was

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Speaker 1: watching a lot of the shows. You had a really

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Speaker 1: artistic shot of these two guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: That's Tassa's cam. That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: So so now we don't have it. We don't have

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Speaker 1: it because we all have our ISOs.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I can just leave, no, no, no, no, it's better.

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Speaker 3: It's it's great. But the whole crew back together. I'll

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Speaker 3: just get another camera, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, yeah, yeah, you're clear caring out things

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Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory room for like one hundred

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Speaker 1: more cameras we're renovating, got rid of that couch. Before

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Speaker 1: we get started into the NBA talk, I do want

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Speaker 1: to give a sincere thanks to everyone that reached out

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Speaker 1: to me after my dad passed a couple of weeks ago, friends,

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Speaker 1: co workers, a bunch of other media members, and a ton,

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Speaker 1: I mean a ton of Nodunk's fans reaching out really

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Speaker 1: meant a lot. Was sort of overwhelming the amount of support,

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Speaker 1: but I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I've missed a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the last two weeks, you guys have done

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Speaker 1: an incredible job holding on the fort. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I watched, I listened, but man, like this happened two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago before the start of Game seven, so the

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Speaker 1: season wasn't even over yet, and then you guys went

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Speaker 1: right into the NBA Draft, and then you went right

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Speaker 1: into NBA free agency, and then here we are with

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Speaker 1: the start of summer league.

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Speaker 2: So a lot happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I missed it, but again, thanks to you

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Speaker 1: guys for of course like carrying the show, and thanks

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Speaker 1: everybody for reaching out.

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Speaker 4: Great to have you back and can't wait to hear

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Speaker 4: the on the ground report from Toronto about how people

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Speaker 4: are feeling about this yaka pertl SUA was like one

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Speaker 1: I never even made it into downtown Toronto and they

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Speaker 1: weren't talking about it in markom Er, Strafford or Kitchener. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So no, you guys did awesome And again thanks to everybody.

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Speaker 1: We do have a live show this week. Speaking to

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Speaker 1: sum Day, We're headed to Vegas, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. I guess are our flights because we got

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Speaker 1: a live show on Friday at Mandalay Bay.

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Speaker 2: In the sports book.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get started at four pm local time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are, because time doesn't matter in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. Four pm is like four am, which is

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Speaker 2: like ten pm. It's exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like you see that, You're like, what, four pm,

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Speaker 1: that's weird time for a show. No, it's not not Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere else, yes, but not there. So excited to see everyone.

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Speaker 1: If you're in Vegas, if you live there, or you're

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Speaker 1: coming for Summer League, come on out on Friday, July eleventh,

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Speaker 1: to the sports Book at Mandalay Bay. You won't be

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a side. Do we have televisions?

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Speaker 3: We had we yes to both questions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh wow, yeah, okay, I've been gone.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be on the televisions.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, can we not take over the sports

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Speaker 2: But gambler?

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Speaker 1: on Friday. We got a bunch of weird things to

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Speaker 1: talk about here. Let's let's start with Summer League because

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Speaker 1: it has it started. Yeah, other summer leagues, the California

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Speaker 6: Well, a lot of my takeaways have been from guys

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Speaker 5: Grown or gotten better.

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Speaker 6: Gg Jackson literally I think has gotten bigger. I think

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Speaker 6: I don't think we haven't talked about him a lot

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Speaker 6: Obviously they're going to play some KCP, but I think

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Speaker 5: I think he'll be part of that.

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Speaker 6: I like what the Grizzlies are doing, and it's taking

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Speaker 5: I think he played in Why is it a Classic?

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Speaker 5: Why is the California Classic unforgettable?

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Speaker 1: He was throwing down alley oops like every single play

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Speaker 4: insult to injury. Rookies wise, j Edgecumb looks pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I put up twenty eight points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, playing They must have been playing in the

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Speaker 1: That's right, edcumb just he was awesome though. Twenty eight points,

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Speaker 1: hey in Summer League let it Fly kid, thirteen of

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Speaker 4: The second year guy. If you don't look good as

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Another guy I thought that was interesting, Nicole Topic is

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Speaker 2: He looks humongous for a point.

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Speaker 4: the pick and roll. So the thunder that's what they needed,

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Speaker 2: In his hands.

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Speaker 1: Jamiir Nelson Junior playing that just always makes us feel old.

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Speaker 6: You say Cole Swider's baseball game baseball name because it's

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Speaker 5: Said, no, he's a picture. Cy young.

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Speaker 4: They play like they do that selfish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that they all like, it wasn't as odd

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, keep it local. Yeah, I mean you are

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, But anyway, we'll see they have to play

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Speaker 5: Play two games? Yeah, three games?

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Speaker 5: Can we get an interview? Nah? Out of here, we're done.

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Speaker 6: But you mentioned all those Canadian cities off the top,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big CEBL fan. Okay, I mean you're

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Speaker 2: Steph Gray was there too, Okay. It's great basketball.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more of the Canadians coming to the league.

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Speaker 1: with this. Even though it's been two weeks since the

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Speaker 1: Sons traded Kevin Durant to the Rockets, the official terms

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Speaker 1: so much more. In fact, the trade is historic. JD

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Speaker 1: So all told, the deal involved the Rockets, the Suns,

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Speaker 1: Brooks Capella, David the Body, Roddy and Daquid Plowden m

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Speaker 2: Should this count?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean as the NBA record seventeam deal?

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this will make for some you know, good

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Speaker 2: Right down the line.

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Speaker 1: Who else who was in the biggest trade ever? At

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Speaker 6: Day Kwon Plowden was, he's already been released. Hawks should

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Speaker 4: Well, they got David Roddy back to the Hawks did,

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Speaker 1: It was just funny how this all came about because

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Speaker 1: we broke it all down, and then weeks later, here

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Speaker 2: I think they thought like, oh, who else is going

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Speaker 1: Then you get the results and it's really, like you said,

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Speaker 4: Literally have to call a game in the G League

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Speaker 1: You're like a draft Sico and you know all these

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna forget that. This was a seven team deal.

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Speaker 6: Like Clay Thompson already had the record of a sixteam

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Speaker 5: We didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, big contract player at the end of his prime.

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Speaker 1: call the next record breaking eight team deal trade. Who

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Speaker 1: give me all eight teams, just.

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Speaker 2: Give me the key guy.

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Speaker 4: The key guy will be Karl Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and twenty eight or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Alright, we got ourselves a trade, a real one. But

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Speaker 4: to a trade that sends Norman Powell to Miami. Whoa,

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Speaker 4: John Collins to the LA Clippers, and Kevin Love Kyle

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Speaker 1: Wow, great timing, shams.

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Speaker 4: A real trade only three teams. Yeah, not going down

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Speaker 4: in history. Norm Powell to the Heat, John Collins to

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The Heater aren't wrestling around. They're saying we want a

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Speaker 4: essentially second round pick. That's gonna help their backup big situation.

442
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Speaker 2: They're brought in. Who's they brought in Brook Lopez? Yeah,

443
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 2: they've got John Collins as well.

444
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Speaker 4: Like Collins can play small ball five if they need

445
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Speaker 4: him to, he's better suited as a four, I think,

446
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Speaker 4: but he can shoot the three. Brook Lopez can shoot

447
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Speaker 4: the three. Clippers are beefing up their bench a little bit.

448
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 4: They've had a pretty nice rotation. Once again, it'll come

449
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Speaker 4: down to the health of Kawhi Leonard and James Harden.

450
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Speaker 1: But sure, I think this is a fine move. And

451
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Speaker 1: John Collins correct me if I'm wrong. He had just

452
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Speaker 1: exercised his player option with Utah here and in free agency,

453
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Speaker 1: and then of course now is on the move going

454
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Speaker 1: to LA. But yeah, Norman Powell the biggest name, best

455
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Speaker 1: player in this three team deal here from shops.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Miami Heat didn't have to give up much. But

457
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Speaker 6: you can see that in the Eastern Conference teams are

458
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Speaker 6: going for it. Miami Heat literally getting a guy who

459
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Speaker 6: is on the borderline of being an All Star last

460
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Speaker 6: year for the first time in his career. Norman Powell

461
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Speaker 6: a very very good player, and they just need a

462
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Speaker 6: secondary ball handler and he can be that. There's no

463
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Speaker 6: doubt about that. From the Clippers side, it shows they

464
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Speaker 6: are not going to go get a guard that people

465
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Speaker 6: rumored about that maybe if Bradley Beal is bought out,

466
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Speaker 6: as we'll talk about, maybe they were the team that

467
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Speaker 6: we're gonna go get it. They are willing to spend spent,

468
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Speaker 6: spent because you just said he opted into his player option.

469
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Speaker 6: This guy's getting paid. That's a good chunk of change

470
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Speaker 6: for them to pay. They are trying to lengthen this

471
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Speaker 6: window of Kawhi Leonard and James Harden as much as possible.

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Speaker 5: This Collins was good for the Utah Jazz as a.

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Speaker 6: A guy who will hang out in the corner and

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Speaker 6: hit a three. Obviously super duper athletic, he can add

475
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Speaker 6: something to a team. I guess Norman Powell gone secondary

476
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Speaker 6: ballhandler is gone as well. He provided monstrous fourth quarter

477
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Speaker 6: against the Denver n gets into the playoffs when Harden

478
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Speaker 6: and Kawhi weren't killing it, he was. He was important.

479
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Speaker 6: So the ball handler? Are they short one in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 4: They're getting one short one in Los Angeles, is what

481
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Speaker 4: I would say. This indicates Chris Paul come on down.

482
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Speaker 4: He's already been rumored to be a Clippers target. And

483
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Speaker 4: if they're trading basically their third ball handler in Norm

484
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Speaker 4: polla guy who was a twenty point per game score.

485
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Speaker 4: Due to injuries and spots in the rotation opening up

486
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Speaker 4: at various times, they got to replace him in some way.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Giants. Collins is not his replacement.

488
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Speaker 4: So I think this is just setting the table for

489
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Speaker 4: Chris Paul to make his way back to the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: I think that makes sense because you know, looking at

491
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Speaker 1: normOn Pell's contract, he's only under contract for one more year.

492
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Speaker 2: He's you know, twenty five Collins both expiring.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so and then then they had the decision are

494
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Speaker 1: we going to pay Norman Palell or are we not?

495
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Speaker 1: So they're off of that, and yeah, you think they'd

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Speaker 1: get some ball handling help in here, probably Chris Paul, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess, potentially Beal.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that and whether he's bought out and

499
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Speaker 1: stretched and Wayne with all that stuff.

500
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Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, good stuff.

501
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Speaker 6: It's got to be Chris Paul because at first the

502
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Speaker 6: talk was he's going to go back to LA.

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Speaker 5: Why would he do that? But this makes sense.

504
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Speaker 6: There was even rumors I was buying into the Drew

505
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 6: Holliday before he was dealt, that he would be perfect there.

506
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Speaker 6: Put Chris Dunn to the bench ideally in a perfect scenario,

507
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Speaker 6: and Chris Paul would make a lot of sense. He

508
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Speaker 6: said told Jamel Hill, this is gonna be my last year.

509
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Speaker 6: So he's got one more year. Yeah, go back to LA.

510
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Speaker 6: Because as I said, they're trying to go for it

511
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Speaker 6: as much as possible by showing by going to get

512
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Speaker 6: a guy who's getting paid in John Collins to join

513
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Speaker 6: Zubats upfront, Brook Lopez upfront with Kawhi and James Harden.

514
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Speaker 6: That's another team that literally is trying to maximize what

515
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Speaker 6: they got.

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Speaker 1: All right, fun stuff. Let's get back to some other

517
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Speaker 1: things that happened over the weekend. We had like not

518
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Speaker 1: a lot of action on Wednesday or Thursday, you know,

519
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Speaker 1: even into Friday there right because I guess gms were

520
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 1: too busy sucking back Lizzies bound right forth. But we

521
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: did then have two minor trades within like sixty minutes

522
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Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and it started with the Rockets trading

523
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Speaker 1: Cam Whitmore to the Wizards in exchange for two second

524
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Speaker 1: round picks. So Houston selected Whitmore with the number twenty

525
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Speaker 1: pick in the twenty three draft. He had trouble like

526
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Speaker 1: finding a role there. They just have too many guys,

527
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Speaker 1: so he wasn't getting significant playing time. I remember quickly

528
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Speaker 1: even had some time in the G League, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: trying to get him some opportunity there. But they move

530
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Speaker 1: off of him and he goes to the Wizards tk

531
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Speaker 1: for two second round picks. Your thoughts on this blockbuster?

532
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Speaker 2: This is a buster of some sort.

533
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Speaker 4: You have to know the Rockets pretty well to get

534
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Speaker 4: down to Cam Whitmore. We do because we follow the

535
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Speaker 4: league like that. But he only went for two second

536
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Speaker 4: round picks. And there's a reason. You know, he's a

537
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Speaker 4: black hole on offense, doesn't pay a ton of attention

538
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Speaker 4: on defense. And I think there are some chemistry questions

539
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Speaker 4: because apparently he was pretty poudy not getting minutes in Houston,

540
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Speaker 4: and he was going to be buried in Houston, especially

541
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Speaker 4: after they brought in Dorian Finney Smith and Kevin Durant,

542
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 4: not to mention all the other guys who were ahead

543
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Speaker 4: of him in the pecking order. So I think a

544
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: smart rebuild acquisition here for the Wizards. There will be

545
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Speaker 4: some opportunity for him to be a scorer for this team,

546
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Speaker 4: because he definitely can score, and the price is right.

547
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Speaker 4: They didn't even give up any of their own picks.

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Speaker 4: They gave up a Bulls pick second rounder in twenty

549
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Speaker 4: twenty six and a King's second rounder in twenty twenty nine,

550
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: while keeping their own which should probably be at the

551
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Speaker 4: top of the first or at the top of these

552
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Speaker 4: second rounds. But you look at what the Wizards got

553
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Speaker 4: on the wing right now, Like Kulabali's kind of in

554
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 4: between a guard and a wing. But I'm throwing him

555
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Speaker 4: in the mix along with their rookie from last season

556
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Speaker 4: Keishawn George. Chris Middleton is there. They got a Champenne.

557
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Speaker 4: They traded for A. J. Johnson, a first rounder of

558
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Speaker 4: last year. They drafted Trey Johnson, a first rounder top six.

559
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Speaker 4: He was sixth pick this year, and they drafted Will

560
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Speaker 4: Riley in the first round as well.

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Speaker 2: Really, the Wizards are just throwing some guys at the

562
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Speaker 2: wall and see and who sticks. Maybe it'll be Cam Whitmore.

563
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Speaker 4: He's been nice in some of his opportunities, but I

564
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Speaker 4: think he might just be a Kamingo like player who

565
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 4: can score. Does he do anything else for your team?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

567
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Speaker 4: From the Rockets standpoint, I think they're just purifying the

568
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: vibes and the end of the season. They don't need

569
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 4: any sort of drama after bringing in Kevin Durant, So

570
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Speaker 4: if he's not going to play anyways, why not eliminate

571
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Speaker 4: a potential distraction.

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Speaker 1: And by moving with more of the Rockets are now

573
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Speaker 1: approximately one point three million under the first apron. I

574
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Speaker 1: always got to talk about aprons, of course, so there

575
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: was that as well, helping out the books a little

576
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Speaker 1: bit by moving a guy that they just didn't have

577
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to play on and maybe didn't even like

578
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Speaker 1: what they were maybe seeing just the way he played.

579
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Speaker 1: But he gets a chance in Washington, the Rockets getting

580
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Speaker 1: under the apron.

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Speaker 6: Has there been any memes of till and Fertita Rockets

582
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Speaker 6: owner owns a bunch of restaurants.

583
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Speaker 5: It just makes sense on an apron to put under

584
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Speaker 5: the apron. I don't know.

585
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Speaker 6: There's some stuff there, something for everybody at like a giveawaytaurants.

586
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Speaker 1: Maybe game one of the season, we're under the first apron.

587
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Speaker 1: Apron you give away to the first ten thousand fans.

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Speaker 5: Or any one of Fertida's restaurants that he runs. We

589
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Speaker 5: went to one of them. I can't remember what does

590
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Speaker 5: he have a bunch of them?

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Speaker 2: We went to one in Houston. While we were there,

592
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Speaker 2: Remember that JD.

593
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Speaker 5: Jane chain chains their Chance.

594
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Speaker 3: Stakhouse.

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Speaker 2: It was a nice steakhouse. It was a Fertida joint.

596
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Speaker 2: Wasn't Ruth was it? Morton was not Morton. How was

597
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Speaker 2: Vic and Anthony's. No, maybe it was Vic and Anthony's.

598
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Speaker 3: There was a dress code, I remember that there was. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, they're under the apron, and you know, the Wizard's

600
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Speaker 6: taking a chance. Apparently they were trying to trade up

601
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Speaker 6: in Whitmore's draft to get Whitmore because he dropped to

602
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Speaker 6: twenty because of everything, like Trey mentioned, stuff going on

603
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 6: outside of the basketball world, or just the fact that

604
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: he didn't want to give enough effort on the defensive end.

605
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 6: He's a crazy athlete. So the Wizards are taking a

606
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Speaker 6: chance on somebody that's a local boy. He went to

607
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Speaker 6: school close by there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oldridge did say, David Oldridge, Hall of Famer quote,

609
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Speaker 1: the Wizards get a much more cap friendly offense. First

610
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Speaker 1: Young win on with young wing on which to take

611
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: a gamble, and Cam wentmore. Then the rumor Jonathan kaminga

612
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: so potentially looking at that as a sort of a

613
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: cheaper version and maybe he pops. And then Sham's in

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Speaker 1: his article about this, this was weird to me, he wrote, quote,

615
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Speaker 1: the Rockets worked with Whitmore and his reps at WM

616
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Speaker 1: Basketball over the past few weeks on a new home

617
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Speaker 1: Houston officials had multiple offers on the table for Whitmore,

618
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Speaker 1: but wanted to see him go somewhere that gave him

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Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to thrive in his career. That jumped

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Speaker 1: out to me that Shams included that. And I know

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Speaker 1: Sham's has got to play like the agency game and

622
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Speaker 1: obviously the reps within the teams, But that sounds like

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, Houston is making a sound like

624
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: maybe we could have got even more for you, Cam

625
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: went more than two second round picks, maybe, but we

626
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Speaker 1: wanted you.

627
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Speaker 2: To thrive in Washington. And I just thought that was

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 1: Odd that it was included in the ESPN article from Shops.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, it's also trying to make sure the Rockets

631
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Speaker 6: front office likes this article slash move.

632
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Speaker 1: And it's also the Rockets front office saying to WM

633
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: Basketball and maybe other agents say look, we'll work with

634
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Speaker 1: our play We'll work with our players here. Yeah, and

635
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: you just remember that when we have to make a deal.

636
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: Down the line.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I guess if he was having workouts, it's

638
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 6: literally him and Cominga that have been having these workouts,

639
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 6: these auditions these last few weeks.

640
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Speaker 5: So the comparison to cominga is pretty easy.

641
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 6: Watched, we watched, we literally watched kaminga videos of him

642
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 6: in a gym, just showing his game to show the

643
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Speaker 6: potential front offices. I got this man, I have these

644
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 6: skills and he was showing a skill set that I

645
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 6: didn't know he possessed. But it's also two on two basketball.

646
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 6: That's not really even two on two basketball.

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Speaker 1: The Wizards, you sort of went through the roster a

648
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: little bit, traight. They are young, but then they have

649
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of vets. Yeah, yeah, they are doing this thing.

650
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: It feels like when all their vets are there, if

651
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Brogden stays, Middleton McCollum, who they've added, Kelly Olynyk.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Smart is still there. Yep. Right, so these are

653
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: that's are.

654
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: They gonna almost be like on the floor coaches, because

655
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: then you go through the roster whitmore. He turns twenty

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Speaker 1: one this week, he's to NBA seasons Is it tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

658
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's turning twenty one. Bub Carrington turns twenty

659
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: in two weeks. A J. Johnson He's still twenty when

660
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: next season starts. Same with all rookie big man and

661
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Alex sar Kolabali turns twenty one at the end of

662
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: the month. Keishawn George is twenty one. They drafted Trey Johnson,

663
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: who he said at number six. He's nineteen and good

664
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: old Canadian boy Will Riley from Cambridge. Now I was

665
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: close to Cambridge, I was in Kitchener.

666
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: He's also nineteen. Yep, holy crap.

667
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: That is a lot of youth to then pair with

668
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: these like, yeah, the old guys.

669
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: They have too many players, that is what it sounds like.

670
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: They really do.

671
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: Like it literally doesn't make sense how you could possibly

672
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: get minutes for these young guys. Having five old guys,

673
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: that's a starting lineup at the top of the roster.

674
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: Uh So the Wizards will be active at all trade deadline.

675
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Sort of conversations. I do believe c J.

676
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: McCollum somebody I want to trade a couple of second

677
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: rounders for him, Kelly allin a couple of second rounders

678
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: for him. I do believe the Wizards will be able

679
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: to recoup these second round picks pretty quickly.

680
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Right right, But I mean everybody gets what they're doing.

681
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean they want some one of two of these

682
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: guys to really pop, obviously, maybe to level up into

683
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: a sort of a superstar if they can.

684
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe they're hoping that's trade Johnson.

685
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: But I like the idea of, like, at least you've

686
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: got like Middleton, McCollum, even Kelly A Linning, Like these

687
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: guys are like considered like the vets of all vets,

688
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart to some example, to some extenent, excuse me,

689
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Like you gotta like teach these guys the ins and

690
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: outs of the professional game too, So it makes sense.

691
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: But you're right, trade, that's a lot of young guys.

692
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Holy man, they're gonna they're gonna win Summer League.

693
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch out.

694
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: The other trade, Oh, that was a big one too.

695
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: The Grizzlies traded center Jay Huff to the Pacers for

696
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: one second round pick and one second round pick swap

697
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: tass stretch five. He averaged under seven points per game,

698
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: but he shout forty from three in limited time for

699
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies last season, so the Pacers get him as

700
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: sort of like to help out with the Miles Turner

701
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: leaving for the Bucks.

702
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: Pacers needed a body as simple as that to play

703
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 6: center for them. And now, if there's any j Huff

704
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 6: lovers of a national podcast, it's this one. I don't

705
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 6: think anyone else talked about Ja Huff and shooting that

706
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 6: three and the pump fakes and drives and block shots

707
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 6: reverse alley oop.

708
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 5: If I remember.

709
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: Correctly, He's got a lot of reverse dunks. It's like

710
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: a signature. Yeah, he's a real Mason Plumbing.

711
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 6: Mason enter him in the dunk contest. He was in

712
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 6: the dunk contest, Mason Pumley. Yeah, but uh yeah, they

713
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: just they didn't want Myles Turner as much as Milwalkee

714
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 6: Bucks did, and frankly, they needed somebody to play center.

715
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Now.

716
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 6: I know that they have hopes for Isaiah Jackson after

717
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 6: his Achilles tear, and they extended the qualifying offer for him.

718
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 6: Maybe Jaris Walker plays a little small ball five next season,

719
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 6: but they really have Tony Brandt. They only had Tony

720
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 6: Bradley and an injured Isaiah Jackson to play five, so

721
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 6: they needed a body in Huff's capable.

722
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: And it's super cheap too. He makes nothing, very very

723
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: team friendly deal. He's like a two point three million

724
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: dollars salary and he's like way better than that in

725
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: this type of league. So decent move here, I think

726
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: by the Pacers to at least get a body in here.

727
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: And then I guess in related news, Jock Landell is

728
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: going to the Grizzlies right as a sort of you know,

729
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: they're replacing Ja Huff with him because they've got injuries

730
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: to Zach Edie and then who knows what Jaran Jackson

731
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Junior and all that.

732
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think what you need to know about

733
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: Jay Huff is that the Grizzlies are starved for centers

734
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: right now, just like the Pacers are, and they're like, yeah,

735
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: we can downgrade to Jock Landale. Like I think, probably

736
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: a solid save by the Pacers to get a guy

737
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: like Jay Huff who's kind of a discount Miles Turner.

738
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: He runs the court, he blocks shots, he does reverse dunks,

739
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: He shoots threes. Shot at great last season forty percent.

740
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: Like you said, skeets on three attempts to perf that's cool.

741
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: Took two hundred of them last year. He had taken

742
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: twenty three and the three prior in his career. So

743
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: are you a real shooter? We shall see. You'll get

744
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: some looks playing in Indiana. But seeing this is the

745
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: move that the Pacers do to follow up losing Miles Turner.

746
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 4: They should have paid Miles Turner because what are they

747
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: going to do for a starting center next year when

748
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: Tyre's Halliburton is back. Jay Huff is not Miles Turner,

749
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: and a rotation of Huff, Bradley and Isaiah Jackson that

750
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: ain't gonna cut it. Isaiah Jackson's listed at six ten

751
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: two and six pounds. That guy will get pushed around

752
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: like crazy. So I think they need to target a

753
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: starting center in the next one year before Tyres comes.

754
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: Back and the Landale move beside.

755
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: Jared Jackson Junior makes a little more sense than a

756
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 6: Jay Huff just because he likes to bruise people. It's

757
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: like Steven Adams light to help out Jaron Jackson Junior

758
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 6: not play all those Senator Center minutes really just to

759
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 6: get Jaron Jackson Junior off a little bit, So Landale's

760
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 6: gonna play. I think, you know, behind Zach Edie when

761
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: he's back, are.

762
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: They saying he was waived? I don't know if that's

763
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: true that I know. Yeah, let me let me investigating

764
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: by the Grizzlies. Yeah, we don't need to investigate, it's

765
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: just Jaquundale.

766
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Arizona Republic reported last week that the Phoenix

767
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Suns have been discussing a possible buyout for guard Bradley Beal.

768
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: So Bill has two years left on his contract totally

769
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: about one hundred and eleven million, one hundred and ten

770
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: point eight if you want to get specific. So a

771
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: buyot would obviously make Bal a free agent here. But

772
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: there's this is quite a debate here, task a lot

773
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: of people saying what Phoenix should do with Bradley Beal,

774
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's it's also just like his

775
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: no trade clause.

776
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: This is up to Bill a little bit too.

777
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: If they even wanted to do this, the Suns may

778
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: wave and stretch him and his contract, though he would

779
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: have to give up fourteen million dollars to make it

780
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: legal under cap rules, since Phoenix already has dead money

781
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: on the books that's from Likenesir Little and EJ.

782
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Liddell or something like littlell.

783
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: So it would have to be Bial literally just giving

784
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: back some money here. But it's a possibility. What do

785
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: you think Phoenix should do or Beal and his team

786
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: should do.

787
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 6: Well, Bradley Beal would have to say, yeah, I'm taking

788
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: fourteen million dollars less that being said, he can go

789
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: get signed by somebody else.

790
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: And we're talking about all these guys.

791
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 6: We just talked about Jock Landa, We talked about all

792
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 6: these guys getting these small deals. He can go get

793
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 6: a seven per year deal or even smaller. The bi

794
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 6: annual exception is available for some teams, so he wouldn't

795
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 6: lose all that much money. And this is a capable

796
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: guy of if you're talking about five million dollars per

797
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 6: year or something like that. But when it comes to

798
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: the bi annual exception, like the Dallas Mavericks, if that's available,

799
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 6: it seems like it's available according to my research that

800
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 6: they could pay him under five So you know, the

801
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 6: fourteen million, like you're saying, he loses seven per year.

802
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: All that to say, does the guy want to leave Phoenix?

803
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 5: Really?

804
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 6: Has it come down to? I don't know. It ain't

805
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 6: about basketball, it's just about his life. He's got this

806
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 6: no trade clause. Maybe he just wants to stay there.

807
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 6: I don't know his personal reasons, but if he wants

808
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 6: to play basketball, it should be somewhere else, that's for sure.

809
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this would be great for Bill. I think this

810
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: would be awesome for Bill. He'll be able to make

811
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: back his money, and he's still getting paid one hundred

812
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: million dollars even if he gives back the fourteen MILI.

813
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: He's still a good player. It's the contract that makes

814
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: him a guy you don't want on your team. But

815
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: if you're paying him five million dollars versus fifty million dollars,

816
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: how does that not help a team like Milwaukee, Denver

817
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: or Golden State people who need a perimeter creator. Bradley

818
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: Beal could do that. On the other side of things,

819
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: the Suns absolutely should wait out Beal. There's no way

820
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: they should stretch him for five years and then you

821
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: got twenty five million just sitting there on your cap

822
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: after you're paying Devin Booker seventy five million dollars per

823
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: season on his extension. The reason it was okay for

824
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: the Bucks to do it is because they are like

825
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: on the verge of losing Janisant to Tokompo, and they

826
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: were able to sign a guy they brought in Miles Turner,

827
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 4: the number one free agent target out there.

828
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: That would not be the case for the Suns.

829
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 4: All they would be doing is saying goodbye to Bal,

830
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: which maybe is additioned by subtraction, but This is too

831
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: much subtracting to be doing from your salary cap. You'll

832
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 4: never be able to build a winner with Devin Booker

833
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 4: if there's twenty five million on your cap for the

834
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: next five years on it able to build when you're

835
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: paying like one hundred million dollars basically between Beal and

836
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: Booker and one of the guys isn't even there. It

837
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense for Phoenix to do this. They

838
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: got to suck it up for two more years and

839
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: realistically only one more year.

840
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: He'll be able to be traded next year with one

841
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: year left on his deal.

842
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't make any sense for Phoenix to

843
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: do this, says Trey Kirby, which means Phoenix will do it.

844
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll do it. No, one hundred percent.

845
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: I'd say it's something like two hundred and thirty million

846
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: dollars out of mat ESHBZ pockets, which you know, I

847
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: think that's probably attractive to him.

848
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you nailed it out of the park. In

849
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: my opinion, they should not. They should like give they

850
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: got way too many guards. We've talked about it with

851
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: Jaalen Green now in the mix. Even Dylan Brooks sort

852
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: of as a you know, two three four type of guy.

853
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: I guess he can sort of play up, but like

854
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: I would, I would try this at least now Katie's there.

855
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: Maybe Beal has a bit of a bounce back. You

856
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: can still trade him. I know he's got the no

857
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: trade clause, but maybe there's a team that comes knocking

858
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: that he's interested in. I would not want this dead

859
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: money on Phoenix's books here, like if you're doing the

860
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: waven stretch.

861
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, that's it.

862
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: And that's again with Bal having to give money back,

863
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: which I don't think he's gonna do either, because I mean,

864
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean for a lot of the times, like he's

865
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be traded there. I'm not

866
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: going to do it, you know, by all accounts. So

867
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: he has a lot of the power. Still insane that

868
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: he has that in his contract. The Wizards gave him

869
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: that of all the players in the league. But I

870
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: would like, yeah, slow play this, Phoenix, don't rush here

871
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: that you're already going into. Like I don't want to

872
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: call it a wasted year, but nobody picking the Phoenix

873
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: Suns to do anything next year, no matter what the

874
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: roster is in the loaded West, You'll be we'll be shocked.

875
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: If they're like in playing contention, It'll be like, well,

876
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: that was a good year.

877
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: Good year.

878
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: He right, So I mean you got and I know,

879
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: and Booker doesn't seem in any sort of rush to

880
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: get out of there. He's going to get his huge

881
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: extension soon here too, and I think he's earned that.

882
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Just slow play this one. They won't but slow play.

883
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: But let's hear from you on the Beal situation. And yeah, really,

884
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: I mean it's if Bil wants to like get out

885
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: of there too and go play for maybe a contender.

886
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ishba sure seems like the type of owner to

887
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 6: want to get something done now. And so if he

888
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: can save some money in the short term and he

889
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 6: can have more money to do something else with other

890
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: than Bradley Beal, you know, go sign a big of

891
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: some sort, then it makes sense that logically, yeah, you

892
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 6: should be looking at the long term and be able

893
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 6: to add more in the long term instead of had

894
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 6: that contract on for five years. But this is Matishpia.

895
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 6: He goes for it, and so he may go for

896
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: it right here right now.

897
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Well, the hope is he did go for it and

898
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: it completely blew up in his face. Yeah, and now

899
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: they're struggling to get out of that hole that he

900
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: put them in by being way too aggressive with the

901
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Katie and especially the Beal.

902
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 6: Has he learned the general manager that they signed in

903
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: Brian Gregory didn't have NBA experience, and so did he

904
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 6: learn by going to get somebody that didn't have a

905
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: lot of experience seeing what has been done in the NBA.

906
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: I find that hard to believe.

907
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we didn't hate the Durant trait from

908
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: Phoenix's side of things when they did it. Yeah, like

909
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: all things considered, not only we were like, oh my god,

910
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: they got absolutely none thing.

911
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: He means this current rand trade. Oh yeah, I'm talking

912
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: about this.

913
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something. Yeah, yeah, Brian Gregory is fine trade.

914
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: One for one. Hey there.

915
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: I think the Suns are in a better spot today

916
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: than they were when the season ended.

917
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is depressing because it's not much better, but

918
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: it is better.

919
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 6: They were thirty six and forty six last year, same

921
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 6: record probably.

922
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, quite likely, yeah, quite likely.

923
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right, especially they're not keeping Plowden

924
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: for one season guaranteed.

925
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely all Right, some other news here, this has been

926
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: making the waves. It's Jonis Ellencutis's last twenty four hours.

927
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: He's been in all the headlines here. So the Nuggets

928
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: have informed Valancunis's reps that the franchise fully expects the

929
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: center to honor his contract. The Nuggets agreed to a

930
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: trade with the Kings to acquire JV for Dario sarage.

931
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been officially, you know, called into

932
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: the league yet, at least last I saw, but according

933
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: to Schaan's, Denver informed Valentounis that he will know that

934
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: they will not let him out of the remaining two

935
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: years on his contract because he's being pursued by a

936
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: team in Greece. And there was a lot of rumors

937
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: tasks that, uh, maybe he wants to go to the

938
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: year League, and Meryonn's like, hold on, you know, you

939
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: might just have been traded to a good team and

940
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: a team that needs you as a backup center. And

941
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: this is where we find ourselves right now here on

942
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Monday morning. Again, nothing official with that trade, and we're

943
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens with him maybe going to Greece.

944
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 6: Apparently that deal has been there for a while, even

945
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 6: going back to last year's off season where Panath and

946
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 6: I Coasts in the Greek League saying we want that guy,

947
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: and there was some conversations about it.

948
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: This is interesting. We don't see something like this very often.

949
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: So is he going to leave?

950
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: I saw Dusty Garza, who is an NBA reporter, yea

951
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 6: and Dusty guard.

952
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: He goes by.

953
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 6: Dusty doesn't look like a Dusty but legitimately, legitimately, I

954
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 6: know you chuckled trade, but I.

955
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: Look like.

956
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: He's super clean.

957
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: He should be a photo a pig pen and I'd

958
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: be like, that looks like a Dusty Garza little flies, rather.

959
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 6: Than you're telling me this guy does not look like

960
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 6: I'm I'm I would believe. And why I'm reporting what

961
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: Dusty Garza is reporting is because he seems believable. And

962
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 6: he went on to say Panathenic Coast yet was in

963
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 6: place last year. Despite what some NBA media are reporting,

964
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: He is not negotiating. He is leaving and signing there

965
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: He's going. This is how he elaborated. No, Jonas Valentunas

966
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 6: can't just pack up and leave for Europe. He's still

967
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 6: under contract unless th Nuggets agreed to a buyop but

968
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 6: if he refuses to play, they can only find or

969
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 6: suspend him, and while it's possible FOEBA won't clear him

970
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: without Denver's sign off, then a long drawn out legal

971
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: battle can take place, but insiders don't feel that's likely here.

972
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 6: If he just wants to leave, he and his agent

973
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: will find a way for him to leave. No one

974
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: can force him to play where he doesn't want to.

975
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: There's these photos, but the NBA contract is binding.

976
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 6: So yeah, we saw we saw something similar with Sasha

977
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: of his Zankoff he had, he had a contract last year.

978
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean too, We're like, well, Sacramento didn't

979
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 2: let the guy play.

980
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: Obviously, Jonas is a better player.

981
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would be the best backup center as we're

982
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 6: all talking that Jokic just probably ever had with him,

983
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 6: although him and USAF for we're all right anyway, ummm, yeah,

984
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: Jonas would be great for Denver. He would be good

985
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 6: for Grease too, I guess so.

986
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Valentino has two years and a little more than twenty

987
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: million left on his deal, so if the agreed upon

988
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: trade with obviously Sacramento goes through.

989
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Denver would have to waive him or buy JV out.

990
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Of his ten point four million for the twenty five

991
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: to twenty six season in order for him to exit

992
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: and maybe potentially go back or go to play for Greece.

993
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: Do you think that's what's your read on this, K.

994
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

995
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: I assume wherever Valanciunis wants to play is where he's

996
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 4: gonna end playing, even if it is overseas. Give back

997
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: all of his money and sign for more with Panathonikos.

998
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: That seems reasonable to me. If they're making this big

999
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 4: of a push to get a current NBA player out

1000
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: of his contract, they must want to pay him pretty well.

1001
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: And from Jannis's point of view, like the guy was

1002
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: with the Raptors forever, and he was in Memphis for

1003
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: a long time, then he was in New Orleans for

1004
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 4: a few seasons, but then suddenly he's played on four

1005
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 4: teams in the past three years, New Orleans to Washington,

1006
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: to Sacramento to Denver.

1007
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Maybe he just wants some stability to be in one

1008
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: place for more than six months.

1009
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, where he will be easily the best

1010
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 6: player on the team. I assume you know, I'm not

1011
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 6: going Kendrick Nunn was doing some stuff for Panathona coast.

1012
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 6: I think pretty sure. Anyway, Jannis would be the number

1013
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: one guy. Yes, stability and hey, you're the guy, man,

1014
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 6: what has.

1015
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: To happen now?

1016
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Then the Nuggets and Jokich and Jamal Murray have to

1017
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: be like j V Man, No, don't go there, like

1018
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: we need you. There's gonna be a role for you

1019
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: here at least at least during the regular season to

1020
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: like spell Jokic a little bit and give us some

1021
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: great backup center minutes. And like he is still like

1022
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: he still has a role in this league. He can

1023
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: be exposed because of his lack of speed, maybe in

1024
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: a playoff situation like that can be an issue, but

1025
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: he is an innings eater and he's like a double

1026
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: double machine still, and you know he's gonna obviously set

1027
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: huge picks and rebound and sort of deter guys at

1028
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: the rip.

1029
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: So there's a role there behind Ki.

1030
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that they just got to convince them,

1031
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Hey man, stand Denver, you'll love it here.

1032
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: Or they say go ahead, we'll go after a Horford.

1033
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: Who would you rather have Horford?

1034
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Horford?

1035
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, And again this trade is not done.

1036
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: It's not official.

1037
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: This trade.

1038
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: The Sarich JV trade so possible.

1039
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know the finances because the Crunky was

1040
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 6: excited to get off of sarches deal. But Yona sali

1041
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 6: tunis if you release him, if you're still on the

1042
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 6: salary cap, there's that issue before going to sign al

1043
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 6: Horford that's dollar dollar bills, and Crunky infancially said, hey,

1044
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 6: the second apron thing, I don't want to talk about

1045
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 6: it because that might mean trading number fifteen. So numbers

1046
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 6: why financially, I think there's there's a few steps to take.

1047
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 6: But you Wonna Salunas was made for the European Basketball game.

1048
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: Yes, he would be a great He can still be

1049
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: at his age a very good euro.

1050
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: League big man. And Panathonikos they're stacked.

1051
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: They got Kendrick Nunn, Chetty Osmond watching her nand Gomez

1052
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: and Matthias Lessore from France quite alongside TJ.

1053
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: Schwartz is their point guard.

1054
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: So I don't know if Panathonikos is considered one of

1055
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 4: the great teams in the euro League.

1056
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: They're going to have.

1057
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: Four NBA players in their starting lineup. Yeah, it's pretty

1058
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: good and Jaron Grant off the bench.

1059
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: Wait to see what he decides. Okay, maybe it's not.

1060
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's his family that decides.

1061
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 4: They also got Doron Holmes is coming back for Denver

1062
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: like they will recover if valentiunas decides to play in Greece.

1063
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Getting off the Sarage contract is huge for them, but

1064
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: that might not happen. I guess, well, they can still

1065
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: do the trade and then release Valentinos to get the

1066
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: benefit of the trade.

1067
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: Yep, other minor moves. I'll just check him out. You.

1068
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Rollins this morning agreed to a three year, twelve

1069
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: million dollars deal to return to the Bucks. Moe Wagner

1070
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: signed a one year deal with the Magic. The Anthony

1071
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Melton that I think is expected to sign with the

1072
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Lakers test. I know he'll be excited about that. Lakers

1073
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: also resigned Jackson Hayes and Jabari Walker to sign a

1074
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: two way deal with seventy six Ers. Any thoughts on

1075
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: any of those.

1076
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 6: I think Ryan Rownds is going to be the Bucks

1077
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: starting point guard next year unless they can go get

1078
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 6: somebody else. He started a chunk of the season and

1079
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: then they decided to change it up when they were

1080
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 6: desperate to go with Kevin Porter. Junior, but Ken Board

1081
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 6: Junior in the playoffs wasn't working all that well. They

1082
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: took him off the ball and just shoved him in

1083
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 6: the corner. At times you had the assistant coach running

1084
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 6: onto the floor during a timeout trying to tell ken

1085
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 6: Porter Junior where to go, what to do. You don't

1086
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 6: see that very often in the NBA. So I think

1087
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 6: he makes more sense as a backup guard Ryan Rowinds.

1088
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 6: It's probably going to start. They need another point guard.

1089
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: That's for sure.

1090
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he makes course as a backup starting a backup Ryan.

1091
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: Rollins and Kevin Porter Junior and Kuzma's still there.

1092
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 6: Right and you know, to go along with Gary Trtt

1093
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 6: Andrian Prince. They have guys other than the lead point guard.

1094
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: But the Ryan Relinds I think is their best lead

1095
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 6: point guard if I'm gonna pick one to start. So

1096
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 6: very interesting point.

1097
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: You, honest is going to be the recipe for the bucks,

1098
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: I have to believe. Also, uh Mo Wagner back to

1099
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: the Magic No surprise, he did make more than Franz.

1100
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 4: Wagner made last season eight million dollars for most seven

1101
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: million per season for Franz, but starting in twenty five

1102
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: to twenty six. This next coming season, Franz's extension kicks

1103
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: in and he's going to be making twice most total

1104
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: career earnings per season.

1105
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

1106
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah wow they do they live together? Yeah yeah yeah,

1107
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 1: So like how does that work now? Like like little

1108
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Bro's got to pay for everything?

1109
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I assume he takes over way more of the

1110
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: final bill.

1111
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah and all that.

1112
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: The family plan is under your name now, Franz, Yeah

1113
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: it has to be. Yeah, you're on all the groceries.

1114
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: Magic are still paying forty three million dollars though to

1115
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: that household. Last year they only played fifteen million dollars

1116
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 4: to that house now three times the cost this year that.

1117
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: House maybe they may may be moving. Yeah, kitchen renovations

1118
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: coming soon. Host just got nicer for sure. Those are

1119
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: the minor moves. We'll wait for more. Here.

1120
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff has happened. There's not a lot

1121
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: of people left, big free agents that are left, and

1122
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: we can go through it here. We actually got a

1123
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: few boards for you. Let's start with the restricted free agents.

1124
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: These are like the four biggest names I think in

1125
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: restricted free agency that are left. Jonathan Kaminga, Josh Giddy,

1126
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Quinton Grimes, and cam Thomas restricted free agency tray.

1127
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: It's dead. Yeah, nobody's got money. Yeah, good year to

1128
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: have restricted free agents on your team. Yeah, this could

1129
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: last for a while here.

1130
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

1131
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: There's no reason for any of these guys to sign

1132
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: a contract if literally, if the Brooklyn Nets aren't offering it,

1133
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 4: and there's no reason for any of their teams to

1134
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: give them a outside of offering the qualifying offer, which

1135
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: you have to do to put him into a restrict

1136
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: free agency. So good on all these teams not negotiating

1137
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: against themselves. That was my worry with the Bulls is

1138
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: that they would just pay Giddy because he was their

1139
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: big free agent coming off the books and had a

1140
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: chance to go somewhere else. Bobby Marks of ESPN reported

1141
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 4: that there was a gulf of Mexico between the two

1142
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: sides in negotiations because the Bulls are like, have to

1143
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: be looking at this saying we could pay him twenty

1144
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: million dollars a year going forward, Giddy saying I want

1145
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: forty million dollars a year Australian, which is thirty million

1146
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: dollars a year.

1147
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: American four for your one hundred.

1148
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: That makes sense to me, and Giddy should be at

1149
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: the top of the list there, he's better than Kaminga.

1150
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: Okay, he was balling after the All Star break. Man,

1151
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: the statslick are I open.

1152
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: The stats are great.

1153
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: I mean giddy Ever's twenty one point two points per game,

1154
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: eleven boards, nine assists, shot fifty percent from the field,

1155
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: and he shot forty six percent from three. It was

1156
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: after the All Star break. These are you know, I

1157
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: guess the Bulls were still in the mix for playing games,

1158
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: but it got to the playoff. But you're right, it's

1159
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: whether like unless the Nets to decide to extend an

1160
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: offer sheet to Giddio, it's like there's no one.

1161
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: Else and at this point they cut into all of

1162
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: their cap space by doing the Michael Porter Junior trade,

1163
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: so they can only offer him like seventeen milli season,

1164
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: which is even less than what the Bulls will probably

1165
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: eventually sign him for.

1166
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: And the Kaminga thing is interesting too.

1167
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: There are no teams for him even more so, it's

1168
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: like the Kings are trying to work out a sign

1169
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: and trade to be able to get him. And that's why,

1170
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 4: like the Sarach thing factors into it as well, because

1171
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: I think he's the piece possibly coming back, so I.

1172
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: Don't know where Kuminga is going to end up.

1173
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me if he's on the Warriors again

1174
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: and we're talking about him in trade rumors for an

1175
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: entire season.

1176
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is another indicator of free agents not going

1177
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 6: for much now under this new CBA, it's obviously every

1178
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: free agent, but also a restricted free agents seemingly going

1179
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 6: for lower than they used to go for. You saw

1180
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 6: you would see one team just overpay bring him on,

1181
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 6: But now we're getting a gulf of Mexico in between

1182
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 6: the the high ended pay guys and the lower ended

1183
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 6: pay guys, and there's there's less of guys in the middle,

1184
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 6: and Kaminga probably gonna be one.

1185
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 5: Of the lower guys. Not super low, but lower than

1186
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: we expected.

1187
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: But there's a reason why these guys are also restricted

1188
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: free agents, right, It's like it's like this is the problem.

1189
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: We're like Kaminga, he's sort of good, but he's got

1190
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: a lot of holes in his game and obviously maybe

1191
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: isn't a great fit with the Warriors. Giddy, I mean

1192
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: literally the team that went on to win the title.

1193
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: We're like, we don't want this guy. They traded him.

1194
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: Obviously they go on to win. He's good though, he

1195
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: is good. Quinton Grimes balled out, I mean got an opportunity.

1196
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: He put up huge numbers.

1197
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1198
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: Cam Thomas is a bucket, you know, gives it all

1199
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: back on the other Like that's why they're restricted for

1200
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: agents though, It's like they didn't sign these big fat

1201
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: extensions exactly, and so they're in limbo here and they

1202
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: unfortunately for them in their reps. It's like it is

1203
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: a year where there's just no money in a lot

1204
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: of these teams. Like next year there'll be a lot

1205
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: more cap space in theory for some of these teams

1206
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: and would have maybe been better for them, so maybe

1207
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: there will just be like play it out.

1208
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: Sort of fascinating to see, but it's uh yeah.

1209
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Kaminga's Kaminga is like one where you're like, I don't know,

1210
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I could still be convinced he turns into a star player,

1211
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: but then people are like, no, he's just Corey mcgetty

1212
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: two point zero, and I'm like, wow, that is pretty

1213
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: that's bang on. Like he's great at getting the free

1214
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: throw line. He's obviously an athletic freak, but.

1215
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: Is he like that good?

1216
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Like when it comes to shooting, and he's not good

1217
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: at the freez throw line, like actually knocking him down

1218
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: when he gets there. Bad defenders sort of sort of

1219
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: lost at times.

1220
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1221
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: But then maybe it's just a he's in a weird

1222
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: team that if you have to be a particular type

1223
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: of player to play with the Steph Curry Warriors, and

1224
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: you put him on a team where he could, I

1225
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: don't know, ball out and be maybe turned into a star,

1226
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: he's a weird.

1227
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: One to me.

1228
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 6: Those audition videos of him running, don't you might get

1229
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 6: a little too excited about him.

1230
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: Because he looks good because there's nobody out of telling me.

1231
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: There's just two on two clips of him operating in

1232
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: the pick and roll.

1233
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and throwing cross court passy there beauties, but

1234
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 6: there's two guys on the floor.

1235
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. He's wearing a hat, actually.

1236
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: How I feel about that.

1237
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: It's kind of a cool hat.

1238
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: Though.

1239
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 4: I think I'm coming around on hats on a course, No, Trey,

1240
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 4: I'm softening my opinions on Devin Booker.

1241
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: Does it man? Okay?

1242
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Slater the latest on cominga He said restricted free

1243
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: agency around the NBA remains ice cold, conversations, little action.

1244
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: The Kings have been the strongest pursuer of Kaminga, but

1245
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: nothing has come close. That's Slater, I think last night

1246
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: or this morning, keeping his eye on this. So that's

1247
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: where we stand with these guys. Any other thoughts on

1248
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: Grimes or cam Thomas, No, no, no.

1249
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Cam Thomas.

1250
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: I think stinks he can score and he makes tough

1251
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 4: two point shots, not a great three point shooter.

1252
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: He'll be back to the nets. I think they're going

1253
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: to get a discount on him. That's fine.

1254
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 4: I think the Sixers are going to get a discount

1255
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: on Grimes as well, and he actually is a good player.

1256
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: The problem for them is they've spent two of their

1257
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 4: last draft picks on guards in McCain last season, Edgecumbe

1258
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: this season, not to mention Tyres Maxi is already on

1259
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: an extension as an All Star player. So from the

1260
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 4: Sixers standpoint, they're like, okay, you can be part of

1261
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: our guard rotation. Maybe you can even bump up to

1262
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: the three a little bit alongside edgecomb Like those two

1263
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: are probably athletic enough to be able to make it happen,

1264
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: but not a priority for the Sixers, so just wait

1265
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: it up.

1266
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: And they'll get a good deal on it.

1267
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 6: Grimes balled out. I mean he was bawling for the Sixers.

1268
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 6: Now reportedly wants twenty five million per year. And that's

1269
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 6: the problem with these middle of the middle range contracts here.

1270
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 6: How much are you gonna pay for a guy to

1271
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 6: add to your team? Because he will add to your team.

1272
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 6: He will be a great three and D type guy,

1273
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 6: secondary ball handler if you need somebody to score. But

1274
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: now you start getting into a restricted free agents of old,

1275
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 6: I start looking at maybe Jonathan Kaminga is a DeAndre

1276
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 6: Ayton when he signed one, he just doesn't work out.

1277
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 6: But somebody like Quentin Grimes makes sense.

1278
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 5: I he'll get I think you're in the ball. He

1279
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 5: will be a good player for a team.

1280
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: Twenty to twenty five yeah, Grimes probably wow, Probably a

1281
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: lot for a guy off the bench.

1282
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the team they're gonna want fifteen.

1283
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna want twenty five, Like he said, it's gonna

1284
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: probably be somewhere eighteen to twenty.

1285
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, Nikil Alexander Walker just signed for what seventeen

1286
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 4: and a half. Grimes isn't been anywhere close to his level.

1287
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 4: He's like Crimes like a ten million dollar player.

1288
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: He's a bench guy.

1289
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he well, he showed out in meaningless

1290
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: games for Philly.

1291
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1292
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: It's like everyone's like, Okay, these meant nothing, and he

1293
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: scored twenty two a game, five and five.

1294
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: It was really good numbers, good efficiency.

1295
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: You're paying for the defense mostly.

1296
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cam Thomas, Yeah he's that guy.

1297
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: Scores even more than all these guys, but again, not

1298
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: a great defensive player, can't hit the three.

1299
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: He sort of reminds me.

1300
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know which way I was gonna say,

1301
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: Like he's a souped up version of this guy, but

1302
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: on a bad he's on a jail and green to

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: his shot selection and his scoring but giving it back

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: and like he's good but he isn't good, and like

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: it's sort of weird. But again, he's on a bad team.

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Speaker 1: He scored twenty four game, but he missed a lot

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Speaker 1: of time with hamstring issues. He only played twenty five

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: games last year. If you weren't following the nets, and

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00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: they drafted like four ball handlers. Yeah, oh yeah, they

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Speaker 1: kept all five guys, didn't they.

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Speaker 2: They got them all. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Weird.

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: From the demon to the Wall. Yeah, he got all

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00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: those creatures.

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Speaker 1: That's a good If they're good, that'd be a great

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: like nickname for them, the creatures. Best unrestricted free agents

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Speaker 1: still available. We talked a little bit about Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: Will put him on the top of the list, but

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Speaker 1: Al Horford's there. Damian Lillard is an unrestricted free agent

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Speaker 1: after what happened with him in the box waved and stretched,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogdon, Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 2: I threw on a Chris Bouchet, who you know.

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Speaker 1: These other guys are more like sort of super vets

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but anyone you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about their tests When it comes to UFA's.

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Speaker 6: We hadn't gone through Chris Paul enough. I think Chris

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Speaker 6: Paul is a Laker just excuse me as a Clipper.

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 6: Just makes so much sense. They are looking for somebody

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 6: with experience back there, especially now giving up Norman Powell.

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Speaker 6: It would have made sense even before that because they

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 6: were trying to move on from the Chris Dunn type

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 6: of guy out there starting with Harden and Kawhi. I

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00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 6: think he would be a great alternative to handling the ball.

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 6: That one makes a heck of a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: What about you, t K.

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00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Paul to me is either Clippers or I

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: would love to see him play on the Bucks.

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00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: I think he would be the starter for the Bucks.

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 4: It is certainly better than Ryan Rollins and Kevin Porter Junior,

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Speaker 4: at least from a taking care of the ball veteran

1341
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: ship dan point. Chris Paul has never been in the

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference. He's never played that far north. That's pretty

1343
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: far away from his family in La.

1344
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: So all off court signs points to the Clippers, which

1345
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: then leaves the Bucks looking at like, should we be

1346
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: the team to try and Russell Westbrook? Should they? I mean?

1347
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: Probably right?

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was decent for the Nuggets last year until

1349
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: they got to the playoffs.

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00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first round he was good. Second round he

1351
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: was least truly good in the first round. Yeah. Absolutely,

1352
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: sho Porter Junior.

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 6: That is ridiculous, I mean I I yeah, I was

1354
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 6: surprised that they re signed Kemport Junior.

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00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: Or did he opt into his player option? No, they

1356
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 5: had to re sign him somehow either way. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook's an upgrade.

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00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm not totally convinced he is over Kevin Porter Junior

1359
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 4: at this point, but the one season Westbrook played in

1360
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference, he set the Wizard's franchise record, oh yeah,

1361
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: for triple doubles in a career in one season. Even

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: got an MVP vote that year, So he's a good

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: innings eater. I think there's a fit there. And then

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00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: the Horford thing is interesting as well, because he's been

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: mostly rumored to Golden Golden State, but that deal can't

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00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: really get done until they figure out what they're gonna

1367
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 4: do with cominga because about what they can pay him,

1368
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Like I said earlier, I think

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Speaker 4: he makes a ton of sense for Denver if he

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 4: own his Valentown. This ends out not being a Denver nugget.

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Speaker 4: And then you gotta wonder, like, how about Al Horford

1372
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Speaker 4: in Indiana on the Pacers one year.

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Speaker 2: He's definitely better than Jay Huff. He fits their system perfectly.

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Speaker 4: But you look at this and it just turns out

1375
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 4: to me like the Celtics have really lost a lot

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00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: o season because it doesn't feel like Horford will be

1377
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 4: going back to Boston at the very least, so they

1378
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 4: will have lost Jason Tatum due to injury, Horford, Drew Holliday,

1379
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: Luke Cornett, that's for their top eight right there. Taking

1380
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: a major step back next year, which was going to

1381
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: be the case. But I don't know if they were

1382
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 4: anticipating losing half of their rotation. Pretty weird stuff in Boston.

1383
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Speaker 1: And yeah, if Horford is gone out of Boston, man,

1384
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: look at the Celtics big man rotation. Right, yeah, it's

1385
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: Kaita time. It's not bad, but you know, Tillman and

1386
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: stuff like this.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna Garza. They got, they got Garza. They are

1388
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: going to love.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're a team that would if Forford goes, would

1390
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: want Chris Bouchet sort of as a as a stretch

1391
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: sort of five guys like four or five.

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01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: He had a like quietly for the Raptors.

1393
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: He did bounce back last year because he had a

1394
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: really crappy year the year before that. He shot you know,

1395
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 1: a decent thirty six percent from three sixty two percent

1396
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: when it came to twos and then he like gives

1397
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: you a little capable defense on the wing in second units.

1398
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: For the Raps.

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think like if the I think he'll

1400
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: make his way to the Warriors if they don't get

1401
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Horford or something like that, there there'll be a role

1402
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: for him, not probably staying with the Raps. People have

1403
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: said the Sixers, but I'm like, I don't think so.

1404
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: Him and Nick Nurse. He was in the doghouse under

1405
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse. So I don't see him going to Philly

1406
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: unless they reconcile.

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 5: But we'll see.

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 6: He was in the talks at the trade deadline. I

1409
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 6: think you had him on the list of potential guys.

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01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is interesting.

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's I think he's totally fine. He's a

1412
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: fine backup sort of big guy for a team, and

1413
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: obviously if you're a better team than that, even better

1414
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: can help you in a regular season.

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 5: It is very interesting that Malik Beasley isn't even on

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 5: the list.

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01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 6: This was a guy who was going to get offered

1418
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 6: three years, forty two million dollars from the Detroit Pistons.

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 6: They were ready, they were talking about it, and that's

1420
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 6: when the league gave them a call and said, hey,

1421
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 6: Malik Beasley is a person of interest in a gambling investigation.

1422
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 6: That was a mere few days before free agency happened.

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 6: So now three years forty two it's poof gone. They're

1424
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 6: very unlikely to sign him. As they went and got

1425
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 6: Duncan Robinson just doesn't feel like that's happening.

1426
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 5: Lake Beasley.

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 6: Very interesting scenario, Oh my god, there because he had

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 6: a great year, really really good here for him.

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01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: My god, he had timed it perfectly to get contract himself.

1430
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and maybe he's done that too much.

1431
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't write.

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: We don't know, but we also don't know. We don't

1433
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever play again. To be completely honest, it's.

1434
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 5: A fair point. Could be a John tay Porter situation.

1435
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: We see, we will see.

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: All right, we'll call it there. I mean, we're getting

1437
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: into Chris Bouchet talk. That's where we're at here in

1438
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: in free agency. But hey, we got a lot of

1439
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: little things in there. Appreciate you joining us. Hit the

1440
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: like buttons, subscribe. We're gonna be back on Wednesday, all right.

1441
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Obviously the schedule changes a little bit here, but we'll

1442
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: have a brand new show on Wednesday. We got something

1443
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: fun cooking for Wednesday's podcast, So make sure you join

1444
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: us at ten am Eastern live on YouTube or catch

1445
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: the podcast after. Hey leave a review if you're a

1446
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: podcast listener. But like that, I was gonna say five

1447
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: star Friday would be right, around the corner. But you

1448
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: know it gets a little odd. Sometimes you got time

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Speaker 1: to get your review at the mind of the summer? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: anything else they see any good movies over the July.

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: Last week, I saw F one. Oh and it's a

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: movie you want to see in the theater, I would say, okay, okay,

1453
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: scenes are heart pounding. I loved it when I left it,

1454
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: Like Lenn, I love the theater.

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 4: I loved it.

1456
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay, good. Graydon said, we got to get it into

1457
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 2: the studio and do a podcast about it. That feed

1458
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: lies dormant.

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: And like. As I was walking on, I was like, well,

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 4: I like this as much when I get it home

1461
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: to watch it, and I'm watching more for the story

1462
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: rather than the spectacle.

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01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but the spectacle is amazing. Okay, okay, good?

1464
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: Do you see anything anything? Not even kids movies? I

1465
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: don't even know what's out. Well, the kid's movie right

1466
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: now that's hot, isn't. What's that little blue guy? Stitch?

1467
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: What's his name? How to Train and Train Your Dragon? Okay?

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: Did you see any of these?

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 5: My kids wouldn't. Okay, What Sinners was obviously awesome?

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01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 4: JD.

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01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: You went saw a movie, did you not?

1473
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: And then I saw Jurassic World Rebirth? Oh yeah, yeah,

1474
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: you can check out Me and Rachel review it is this.

1475
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: This good Feet is now called thumb war a new podcast.

1476
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: New podcast dropped. Check it out? Uh not good spoiler alert.

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01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: I saw Mission Impossible last night.

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a slog, but some spectacular stunts.

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,479
Speaker 3: What else would they say?

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: That's it?

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: I feel that F one is great too.

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01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow.

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01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: My family was gone for seventeen days and I watched

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01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: eighteen movies. Oh my god.

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Hey man, if you take if you just take away

1488
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: all the time I spent chopping up an apple every day,

1489
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: it equals up to one movie.

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01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: Apparently I didn't have to chop any apples for seventeen

1491
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: so I've watched movies instead. JD.

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01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 4: Speaking of thumb Wars, I watched a clip yesterday of

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: the only time that Cisco switched his thumb from an

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: up to a down for Ebert convinced him. Do you

1495
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: want to take a guess what the movie is. I'll

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: give you the hint that it stars John Travolta.

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Speaker 3: Stay Alive Home Fiction.

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no one will guess it. It's Broken Arrow

1499
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: he convinced them. Still comes in.

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Speaker 4: He's like, He's like, it's fun. There's some great action pieces.

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 4: And then Ebert's like, this movie sucks.

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01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe you like it. He's like, you know what,

1503
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: you talked me into it. I'm turning whow. Ebert couldn't

1504
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: believe it. He's like, how could you do that?

1505
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 5: People?

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: That's apparently the only time, and that at least it

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 4: was the only time up until that moment that happened after.

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Speaker 1: Have you filled out the New York Times Top one

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01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: hundred movies? Like how many you've seen and how many

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: you have to watch?

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: What were you at seventy? I don't know. Yah, that's

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01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: exactly what I was. Seventy watch thirty to go, So

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: to do that, it's pretty cool. Like the list is decent.

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Speaker 2: You know. Sure, there's a couple you're like, what, but

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Speaker 2: that's that's a list one hundred movies. That's a list.

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Speaker 2: That's a list. Okay, we'll call it there. Like I

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Speaker 2: said back on Wednesday, till that Clipper bruse, you heard

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Speaker 2: it here first. Have a great time, turn up, Love

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Speaker 2: you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, and remember it's fun going back

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Speaker 6: to see who signed contracts with another team under a

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Speaker 6: restricted free agency, and then your team just goes and

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Speaker 6: matches it.

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Speaker 2: I had forgotten that Gordon Hayward when.

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Speaker 6: He's with Utah Jets, got signed to a contract by

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Speaker 6: the Charlotte Hornets before he went there, way later, but

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Speaker 6: the Jetz said.

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Speaker 5: We're keeping you around.

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Speaker 6: The DeAndre Aydon one was interesting. Maybe he's going to

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Speaker 6: replace Miles Turner. Uh, because he signed one.

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Speaker 2: With Indiana Gordon Phoenix Suns. Oh he didn't want to

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Speaker 2: go Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Clippers, Yeah, Captain, that's right.

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Speaker 5: That was a good one. That's all all right.

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Speaker 2: Race today people