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Speaker 1: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Well, here I am man along with Matt Williamson. And

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Speaker 3: Oh slightly. I drove from fifteen minutes away.

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Speaker 2: I just spent about fourteen hours on an airplane. Give

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Speaker 3: Give us the play by playe okay, so game ends.

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Speaker 3: I want to start from game ends, okay, And I

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Speaker 3: answered when I texted you.

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Speaker 2: As I'm walking out of the over to the buses

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Speaker 2: But there are a bunch of Steeler. Steeler fans are

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that later, but I don't hear your travels.

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Speaker 2: So we get we get on the buses, you go.

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Speaker 2: So we get over there. I'm on the first group

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Speaker 2: They won.

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Speaker 2: This is This is a game the Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 3: Sure you've got a Ayward and if they don't lose

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean again, your your loss, I'll be

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Speaker 2: Well that's that's the thing. So if you look at

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Speaker 3: Gonna sweep the North? No?

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Speaker 2: it's just you know, the Raiders aren't very good. Look,

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Speaker 3: That win counts more than the nine or loss, correct,

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Speaker 2: They were trying to milk. Yeah, you know Europe, what

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Speaker 3: To sure run four minute offense.

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Speaker 3: Now, I almost don't want to go down this road either,

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Speaker 3: you know the leal call like really, the Menka calls

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Speaker 3: games playing that way, whether it bend's' quarterback or pickets

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what they knew, Matt was that the

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Speaker 3: Uh was that Adams?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Touch the touchdowns that Adams on fourth and short.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he's gonna he was the best player in

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Speaker 2: The only way that you're going to get They don't

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Speaker 2: have a ton of speed at receiver. No, Adams is

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Speaker 3: No, they're not Tyreek out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. You know, Jacoby Myers isn't a burner.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, Jimmy's not and he's not that kind of quack.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that they trusted themselves. Steel's got

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Speaker 3: They did, and he's not the same under pressure Africant

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Speaker 2: I think they felt pretty confident that if they if

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous game best fun would say for last Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: They could play that field position game late in the

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Speaker 3: And Jimmy's gonna get hit in the meantime, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna have a holding pendal or something's

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Speaker 3: You know, it was made it a little more interesting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the leal penalty actually might have hurt the Raiders

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Speaker 3: Just because it the same result of that happened, the same.

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Speaker 3: Right, which I thought made the second decision by McDaniels

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Speaker 2: A SCOO, I was. I was shocked that he did that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that flow me away the first time

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Speaker 2: He took the points off the board. I get it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: You have less time to work with and fewer yards

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Speaker 3: Like I thought the Minka and the ol stuff was not.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a bad break. But McDaniels not going

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Speaker 2: The second time, yeah, because you all again, all you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you have less time and fewer yards you

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Speaker 2: So and you know, then the Steelers were able to

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Speaker 3: It's nice not kicking the weather and domes and things

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he's been rock solid. I mean he's been perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which after I know, I mean that was one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they missed eleven fields attempts last year,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, Adams ate them up, but I do

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Speaker 3: To get his but I felt like he could complete

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Speaker 2: They want to throw eight yards to Adams, fine, but

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Speaker 3: More they had the last one definitely.

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Speaker 2: So if your quarterback went thirteen for twenty four, one

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Speaker 3: If that's their number one, that's all they could that's

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Speaker 2: They could do. And as good as Adams is, again,

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Speaker 3: I'm not fighting you on that. Their ability going forward

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Speaker 3: And if that means a big day by Adams as

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Speaker 2: I think if they really want to take a number

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Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick over the top of him and bracket him all

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Speaker 3: And they did more of that as it's playing with

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Speaker 2: Make that happen. Yeah, yeah, that was more to me.

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Speaker 3: They end up Jimmy getting hit. And you know, he

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Speaker 2: You knew that wasn't he was under constant pressure.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and he's not the same.

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Speaker 2: No. That's one of the things that Patrick Peterson said

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Speaker 3: And that's not He's a paint by numbers guy.

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Speaker 2: and he just heaved it up and it wasn't close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that that hurt them bad. Yeah, they ended up

441
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Speaker 2: hitting him. They had They only were credited with three quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Hits in addition to the sacks.

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Speaker 2: In addition to the to the four sacks, which was

444
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Speaker 2: really should have been five. That was a sack thought

445
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Speaker 2: so I mean that was a flat out bad call.

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Speaker 2: But okay, so yeah, but yeah, so they get out

447
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Speaker 2: of there with a win.

448
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Speaker 3: Paid well.

449
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Speaker 2: The running game could. I think it's still going to

450
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Speaker 2: get better, but it wasn't awful. No.

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Speaker 3: One hundred yards And had a good conversation with Wolf

452
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Speaker 3: earlier and we both agreed and I'm sure you will too.

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Speaker 3: The double teams looked a lot better. The run game

454
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Speaker 3: is a lot less sloppy. They were better getting to

455
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Speaker 3: the second level and they played lesser opponent. But so,

456
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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's so an NFL team. I mean

457
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Speaker 3: they're not junk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you play who you play. We talked

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Speaker 2: about that all offseason. I mean, the schedule is not

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Speaker 2: what it was last year.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Wolf, he was funny because the show I

462
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Speaker 3: did with him, he said, you know, I used to

463
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Speaker 3: train boxers and I would take boxers and I would say,

464
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have him fight this guy that's a

465
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Speaker 3: real puncher, but he's heavy footed. Then I'm going to

466
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Speaker 3: have him fight a really jabber, and then I'm gonna

467
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Speaker 3: have him that as a wicked upper I don't anything

468
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Speaker 3: about boxing. Well, the NFL makes your schedule for you.

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Speaker 3: You don't get a chance.

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Speaker 2: You don't get a chance to pick your opponents. You

471
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Speaker 2: get the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Oh, then you get Miles Garrett and the Browns, and

473
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Speaker 3: now you get to pick one. You kind of like,

474
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Speaker 3: you know, that's not the way it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not college football either, where that happens, where

476
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Speaker 2: you sure pick your conference opponents, and Georgia the first

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Speaker 2: two weeks usually. Anyways, we're going to take a break.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit more Steelers Raiders. What went right?

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Speaker 2: What went wrong? Right after this?

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and it is well, let's let's keep looking here on

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Speaker 2: this victory Monday. That went right? What went wrong for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. They finished the game with three hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty three yards of total offense. Again, Now they did

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Speaker 2: that and if you look at the if you look

491
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Speaker 2: how it breaks down here after the the initial two punts, okay,

492
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Speaker 2: the initial two three and ounce they get they get

493
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Speaker 2: this the seventy two yard bomb to Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 3: That's a touchdown on beautiful throw by the way, stood

495
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Speaker 3: in there, and yeah, well well done.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get a first down on their next possession,

497
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Speaker 2: but they punt. Then it's field goal on a forty

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Speaker 2: four yard drive. Fifty four yard drive gets ends in

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Speaker 2: another field goal they take. They run a play before

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Speaker 2: the end of the half. Yeah, yeah, they come out

501
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: of they get to stop and to start the second half,

502
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Speaker 2: they get a fifty two yard field goal drive. Then

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Speaker 2: they get the eighty one yard six play, eighty one

504
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Speaker 2: yard drive for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Was this pretty a drive as they've had all year

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Speaker 3: or maybe.

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Speaker 2: In the last two year. Yeah, right, I mean it

508
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Speaker 2: was just yeah, using everybody, and you know, it's a

509
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Speaker 2: it's a you know, a play action to Pickens, it's

510
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Speaker 2: a it's a nausey run. It's uh in the middle,

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Speaker 2: and then they they you know, spreading it out. I

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Speaker 2: saw early, you know, earlier in the game, you were

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Speaker 2: you were tweeted out something about, you know, when the

514
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Speaker 2: Steelers are under center, they're they're they're running the football

515
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Speaker 2: when they're when they're a shotgun there, it's typically a throw. Well,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they come out in that drive

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Speaker 2: and they go in the pickets under center. Play action yep,

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Speaker 2: touchdown yep.

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Speaker 3: Very aware of the tendencies that were created in the

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Speaker 3: first two weeks. And what I was referencing is what

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Speaker 3: Warren Sharp put out. He put out a detailed thing

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Speaker 3: about when they're in two games, but when they were

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Speaker 3: in shotgun, they threw. When they were in under center,

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Speaker 3: they were running a very high percentage of the time.

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Speaker 3: And we talked through it, and.

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Speaker 2: It's some of it with circumstances, and I said.

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Speaker 3: It's really good analysis by him. But part of it

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Speaker 3: is because you're going to throw a ton in the

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Speaker 3: second half against the Niners out of shotgun. Yeah, because

530
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Speaker 3: you've flat out abandoned the running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you threw forty plus passes in that game. You

532
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Speaker 2: went three and out on your first five drives in

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Speaker 2: that game, So that's only fifteen plays. So your final

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Speaker 2: you know, forty plays in that.

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Speaker 3: Game shotgun throws, you know, So that's going to skew

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Speaker 3: the numbers. But I did pay attention to that was

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Speaker 3: one of my you know, I make a couple of

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Speaker 3: notes going in the game, keep an eye out on

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Speaker 3: these things. Well, there was no tendencies when they were

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Speaker 3: in the show, and they're a heavy shotgun team. That

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Speaker 3: was not a strong run pass tendency at all. But

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Speaker 3: about that stage of the game, you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: gonna rewind. I'm watching it live. I didn't remember a

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Speaker 3: throw from under center.

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Speaker 2: Well it's funny because you know, Dan Moore talked about

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Speaker 2: that after the game and he said, you know, we

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Speaker 2: had we had run out of that formation, you know,

548
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Speaker 2: in the game, and so that was that was a

549
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Speaker 2: run formation for us, and it sets the play action

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Speaker 2: up perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not a heavy play action team, but I

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Speaker 3: do think they used it very timely in this game,

553
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Speaker 3: and as a result, the Raiders bit, you know, heavily,

554
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Speaker 3: and I think we'll see more of it. You can

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Speaker 3: run play action really well without running the.

556
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Speaker 2: Ball really well. It's your helps.

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Speaker 3: It helps though, you know, like I understand, everyone knows

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Speaker 3: I'm a stat nerd and anyone that's done studies of

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Speaker 3: this will tell you play action still helps even when

560
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Speaker 3: you're running games crap. Okay, yes, the linebackers will probably

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Speaker 3: still honor the play action and take a step forward

562
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Speaker 3: or lean that way. But it sure helps when Derek

563
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Speaker 3: Henry's running down your throat, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And the one of the problems with play action, and

565
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Speaker 2: we saw this on Watt's first sack. Longer the Raiders

566
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Speaker 2: ran play action, and by the time Garoppolo was getting

567
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Speaker 2: ready to turn around and start scanning the defense, t

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Speaker 2: J Watts on.

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Speaker 3: His back exactly. You know, I said the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It was like, okay, well, if your protection is a

571
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Speaker 3: problem against Miles, Garrett and Bosa, and you know your

572
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 3: quarterback's a little skittish at this point, do we really

573
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Speaker 3: want the play to take longer to get the ball

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Speaker 3: out of his hands.

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Speaker 2: Because he starts slowing down the rushers, he's crashing from

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Speaker 2: the outside. The ball is not even if the if

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Speaker 2: you run the play action, you know, the play may

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Speaker 2: not necessarily be in him. His job is to go

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Speaker 2: get the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Especially the way Cleveland's playing right now. Yeah sick, I

581
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Speaker 3: don't care, Yeah, don't care one bit. Yeah right, So

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Speaker 3: I bet play action against the Browns is not a

583
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Speaker 3: real great strategy this year, you know.

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Speaker 2: So they didn't, I mean, they just there's no bigger

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Speaker 2: play action team than the Titans.

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Speaker 3: That's why I brought Henry yeah right right like.

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Speaker 2: And they scored three points. They didn't eve have one

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Speaker 2: hundred yards offense against the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Oh, some of the numbers that they put up, I

590
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Speaker 3: should find them. I mean that game was remarkable offensive

591
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: ineptitudes mixed with defensive brilliance. I mean, frankly, I mean

592
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Speaker 3: just not even competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, you know I thought that was you know,

594
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Speaker 2: somebody tweeted them who was calling the plays in that game?

595
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Speaker 2: Matt Canada was calling the plays in that game, of course,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's the offensive coordinator. That's ridiculous. Defense suggests

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Speaker 2: as somebody else was.

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Speaker 3: And for the most part, I thought he called it.

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Speaker 2: I thought he called a game, a very good game.

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Speaker 3: You know, in breaking routes in the middlefield, pickings being

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Speaker 3: used that way. I have not seen the All twenty two,

602
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Speaker 3: but it seemed to me the Raiders feared pickings most.

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Speaker 2: They were doubling him, especially early. You know, they were

604
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: bracketing him. They were not going to let him beat

605
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: him over the top. That was just what was going

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Speaker 2: to happen there.

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Speaker 3: And you know, and they still got him involved, and

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: they still incorporated Robinson Friarmuth, who we've been calling for

609
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: the Backs a little bit, certainly Austin. So I liked

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Speaker 3: how Kenny slash Canada. And you can't just give Kenny

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Speaker 3: credit when things go well and not the offense coordinator

612
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: and vice versa. They got everybody involved. They spread the

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Speaker 3: ball around well and didn't avoid going Picking's way either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other play that I really liked, and it

615
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: was on that again, that that eighty one yard touchdown

616
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: drive the little fake reverse or fake end around to

617
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Speaker 2: set up the screen to Jalen Warren, which was I mean,

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Speaker 2: he just had all kinds of He had like three

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Speaker 2: guys out in front of him, nobody was there. They

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Speaker 2: all bit on the end around. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, everyone knows the Steelers have put the jet sweep

622
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: stuff on tape a lot, for better or worse. But

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Speaker 3: clearly Canada knows that they know. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: People want a lot of times offensive coordinators do things

625
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: like that. You hope it works. You design every play

626
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: to work right, but you want teams to start, you

627
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: run those jet sweeps and you run the jet sweep

628
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: motion to make teams honor it. So if you never

629
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Speaker 2: give the ball to the guy, nobody's gonna honor it.

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Speaker 3: So there's so many problems with going three and out

631
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Speaker 3: and three and out, three and out the first two

632
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Speaker 3: weeks right, and one.

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Speaker 2: Of them you don't get to what Canada talked about

634
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: the first day of training care second day at training camp,

635
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: and I talked to him the plays off the.

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Speaker 3: Plays exactly exactly, Like, of course, then you get to

637
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: a point where you're one dimension or throwing against the Niners. Okay,

638
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: we know all that stuff. You're down, so you throw

639
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: your game plan away and you just throw and the

640
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: whole world knows it. But we've brought this up many

641
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Speaker 3: times over the years. One of the beauties of quote

642
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: scripting plays is are they going to treat Connor Heyward

643
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: as a fullback or a tight end? You know, like

644
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: you don't get to gather data for the plays you

645
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Speaker 3: want to set.

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Speaker 2: Up because you don't. You don't you can't guess, I mean,

647
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: you can't guess what they're going to do. That doesn't

648
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: mean that's what they're going to do.

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's why I see it. That's why

650
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm a believer the fourth quarter defense is becoming extinct

651
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: because these great play callers and quarterbacks have figured out

652
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: all of your checks and all of your tails, and

653
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: you don't get a chance to learn those things because

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Speaker 3: you need twenty five I'm just gussing throwing out random

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Speaker 3: number twenty twenty five plays of putting out stuff to

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Speaker 3: gather the data to come back. Well, you never get

657
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: the data back because it's three and out, three and out,

658
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: three and out right.

659
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: You just you don't get to run enough plays. And

660
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: by the time you've run your ninth play, which is

661
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: what you'd like to run on your opening drive.

662
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: You're down by fourteen.

663
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: You're down by fourteen points or seventeen, whatever it may be. Yeah.

664
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: And the defense from the field for first corners.

665
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Over yeah or ar more.

666
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, mean, especially these long offensive drives that the opponents

667
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: have had. So yeah, it's a snowball. I mean it

668
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 3: really is. So be better on first down. I mean

669
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: there's two sides of it too. Don't go three and

670
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: out anymore, you know. But he's you said and done.

671
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: You know. The the opening drive, they come out, they

672
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: get two good runs from Harris, it's third and one.

673
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 2: They try the full back belly play, which people were

674
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: going nuts about that on social because it didn't work.

675
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: They ran that Derek Watt it was like eight for

676
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: eight on that one. That's a higher run. Yeah, somebody

677
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: got beat up front and then they got they got penetration. Yeah.

678
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: I don't know that there was this huge towel that,

679
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: Oh Canada's good. How often we see that?

680
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not like they ran it eight times

681
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: all of last year and it.

682
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: Worked every time every time. And Hayward's a better ball

683
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: carrier than what Yeah, So it just it's if somebody.

684
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Somebody wanted the line of scrimmage and to play got

685
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: blown up. If they get that one, they get that

686
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 2: full back belly and they get the first down, does

687
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: it change the complexion of the game. Maybe maybe, you know,

688
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: it's the same way if Marcus Peters on the catches

689
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: that one.

690
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I don't know, is that a wrong route

691
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: by Pyward?

692
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: That well? I mean, like what you want to do

693
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: against Marcus Peters is double move him? Oh yeah, yeah.

694
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: And so they obviously because Hayward ran it out and.

695
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: Up and the Steelers are very familiar with Peter's work.

696
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: So I don't What I don't know is if Hayward

697
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: was supposed to if if he was the hot on that,

698
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: if he's just supposed to run the out, don't go,

699
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: don't do the up part of it, just run the out.

700
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: Or is he reading Peters? If Peters breaks on this,

701
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: take it to the take it up. If he doesn't,

702
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it the out in front of him. Well,

703
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: somebody shrewed up mentally, and some of some.

704
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Of that may have. Sure. I mean, he's he was

705
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: a bigger problem for the Steelers than Bosa had been.

706
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: Like his movement skills, it's like the way he moves.

707
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: Around, and he's really something.

708
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Dan Moore I thought, just great, he's he's a more

709
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: unorthodox rusher.

710
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: He's so long and lean and he is really unorthodox,

711
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: and they stunt and loop.

712
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: He's here and then he's over there, and you know

713
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: it's he's just he's relentless. He is relentless, and you

714
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: know he's it's it.

715
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: Was fundos athlete. Yeah, he's a tremendous football player, is

716
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: a tremendous athlete. But if the plays over in two

717
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: point five seconds, he plays two point seven, Yeah, and

718
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: he just.

719
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Goes, He just goes and goes and goes like the

720
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: energizer bunny.

721
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 3: And he plays more snap than a defensive end too,

722
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: which is bonkers good for him.

723
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a tremendous I said something more about that.

724
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, you've run the gauntlet. Now you've you've

725
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: done Bosa, you've done Garrett. Now you know that you've

726
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: done Crosby. He goes, Yeah, from here on out, it's

727
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be easy. Now he wasn't joking,

728
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: he's joking and more easy. I mean, but that's as

729
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: hard as it gets. That's Garrick Ruth, you know. I mean,

730
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: that's that's really Harsons is.

731
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: The only other one, in my opinion, that could come

732
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: in and be on that level.

733
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: And the other one plays the other one.

734
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: You get the practice against every.

735
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Day, so that's nice. But yeah, I mean, you get

736
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: through those three games against those three defensive superstars, uh

737
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: pass rushing superstars, you give up one sack and three games.

738
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 2: He had three tackles last night. That's one more tackle

739
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: than than Bosa and Garrett had combined against you.

740
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: He was highly disruptive though. Yeah shows up, Yeah, he

741
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: shows up heavy.

742
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I meant, Moore told me that they just they didn't

743
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: run stuff because they were His inference was that they

744
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: were running they didn't run everything in their playbook in

745
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: those first two games because they were so concerned and

746
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: conscious of those two players. He said, tonight, we just

747
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: we didn't We didn't let one guy affect our game plan.

748
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: Understand, we just ran the game.

749
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: We just we just ran our playbook.

750
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: And there's fewer guys around him that can change the game.

751
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: And that's that's the other part the world.

752
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: They don't have.

753
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no Javon Hargrave there, flip side of that,

754
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: and everyone does. But boy, the Raiders bringing in extra

755
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: offensive linemen on TJ's side, and they haven't used their

756
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: tight ends much well, and this game their tight ends

757
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: played a lot and fullbacks to his side. I mean

758
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: the offensive formation is tilted so strong to the right quarterback.

759
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: I mean it's unbalanced all the time.

760
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: If you drew a line right down the football and

761
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: look the offensive players on the right versus offensive players

762
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: the TJ side.

763
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: It's the night and day. It really was. And I

764
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: think that's why a lot of to me, a lot

765
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: of the reasons why everything was so funneled through they

766
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: had already done that in their first two games had

767
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: funneled everything through Adams and Myers when they had them

768
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: both to the field. Thirty two targets to those two guys. Oh,

769
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: I know, thirty two targets to two guys.

770
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again, their tight ends are a very small

771
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: target chair and even though they were on the field,

772
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: they don't really use them. Jacobs is a good receiver,

773
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: but he's a dump off type dude, you know. And

774
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: those two are a really good pair. Meyers a better

775
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: football player than I thought he was when they made that.

776
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: Signing him like that sounds like an overpay. You know,

777
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: Patriots got to keep bringing the Patriots. He's good, He's

778
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: really Yeah, he's a number two.

779
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: I thought the Steelers did have a better job stopping

780
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: to run in this game. No long ones was one

781
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: of my notes. Was huge.

782
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: And yes, I thought they wonted the line of scrimmage

783
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: pretty consistently. And I know they'll never be Lambert and Ham,

784
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: but the second level defensive play players, yeah, they're coming

785
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: into their own.

786
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

787
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Do you have any insight on why was Mark Robinson

788
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: injected here? I didn't see any injuries.

789
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: I think they wanted they want to excited about him.

790
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: They wanted more runs that like, they wanted that downhill. Okay,

791
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: they were going to sell out to stop the run.

792
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: Well that's what you put Mark Robinson on the field

793
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: to do. Sick, go forward, go get the go, get

794
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: the football. Yeah don't.

795
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: He's young, you know, he has not nearly experienced the

796
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: other guys. So if you're not passing off your zone

797
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: responsibilities and coverage and things, we can look.

798
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: And to your point, I did make notes like the

799
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: first three first downs plays the Raiders had, they threw

800
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 2: the football. Okay, but then they started like okay, they've

801
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: got this package on the field, they're running the football.

802
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, So they have a lot of big

803
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: bodies out there.

804
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: Had a lot of big bodies out there, So that

805
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: played in the putting. You know, Mark Robinson on the field.

806
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: Makes sense, you know, but I figured Day just wanted

807
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: to see more of them, or it was a Raider

808
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: centric thing.

809
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: But that adds you may see that maybe against the

810
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Titans or something like that. He we got to get

811
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: someone to get down you know, downhill. Yeah, you're probably

812
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: not going to see him much this week. You know,

813
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: he's still a player who's learning the game, going.

814
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: Backwards, sure, and reading all the route responsibilities and when

815
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: how long do I stick with this guy?

816
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: But he's an excellent rundown guy.

817
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: If you say, go get that ball, yeah, that's exactly

818
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: up his alley. I mean, he's very athletic, he's very explosive.

819
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: So you know, Jacob's finished with sixty two rushing yards,

820
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: but he had a couple of like eight or nine

821
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: yard runs late in the game.

822
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: There's a lot of empty calories there.

823
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the Steelers were content at that point. Hey,

824
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: you want to run the football here? Go ahead, go ahead,

825
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: you're waisting clock.

826
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they conceded, We'll take the eight yards, the

827
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: twenty seconds or whatever.

828
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely are like, we'll take that too. Yeah.

829
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: If you want today that, that's great, We'll take it too.

830
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: So I thought, overall, I thought the defense played pretty well.

831
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: I mean, again, Devanta Adams is a handful for anybody

832
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: he is And if you target Devonte Adams twenty times,

833
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: I don't care who the who the cornerbacks are, he's

834
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna have that kind of day against you.

835
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Do you have any corner concerns or do you foresee

836
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: any changes? You know, like, is Porter's snapcount going to

837
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: go up. King was active in this game. Wallace has

838
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: made big plays, but he's also allowed plays. You know,

839
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: do you think it's are things changing there not?

840
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: At this point? I don't think. I mean, I think

841
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: they're they're pretty content or happy with with heusing. Yeah,

842
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: they don't want to put him out there. And again

843
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned this a few weeks a couple of weeks ago.

844
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: They don't want this to turn into an already burned

845
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: situation when he goes out there or Cortez Allen situation,

846
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: goes out there and loses confidence in what he's doing.

847
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: He's got rum with Adams for sixties. No, that's what

848
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: people screaming that. You thought you thought that Levi Wallace

849
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: had a tough game against him, Joey Porter Jr. Would

850
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: would have really had his hands full. And that's nothing

851
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: against Joey Porter.

852
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: Tremendous.

853
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: He's a rookie going against maybe the best receiver of football.

854
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: I think he's probably the best route runner, and I

855
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: think Jefferson and Tyrieker a probably the only guys I'd

856
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: take ahead of him in a vacuum.

857
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: What they what the Steelers didn't have in this game

858
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: was a bunch of pass interference penalties and things of

859
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: that nature. Defensive holdings could be an issue with Porter,

860
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: which could be a yeah, because they're gonna double movie,

861
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna work the rookie over when he's in there.

862
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: I think you pick your spots with that and you

863
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: allow him to continue to gain confidence.

864
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: I did find it noteworthy because maybe I'm wrong, but

865
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: every snap I've seen from Porter he's been the left corner.

866
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where he plays.

867
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: But when Wallace went out the right corner, they inserted

868
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: Porters like for two plays. But I didn't know what

869
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 3: they would do there.

870
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's clearly than you know, the next

871
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: guy up there, but ideally they want him on that

872
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: left side.

873
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know if they put King in there or

874
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: asked Peterson to go to that side, or just put

875
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: Porter directly. And we saw this when Deontay went out

876
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: in game. Stuff can be different than game planning all

877
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: week for these things.

878
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: Right right, Benton showed up again. He's a man, He

879
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: is a force.

880
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a force. I have legit concerns with Loudermilk,

881
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: whose snaps seemed to.

882
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Be dropping more and more.

883
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what to make of Leal good or bad.

884
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's disruptive. That guy's their best young defense lineman.

885
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's not even close to me like that

886
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: guy could be a star.

887
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is a guy that, you know,

888
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: in a few years here, we could be talking about

889
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: him being that kind of place. You know, you know,

890
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: you see some of these big defensive line contracts being

891
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: given out. Yeah, he could be on that level.

892
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: He could be on that path, and hopefully we get

893
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: to see it sooner than later and things don't derail this.

894
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: But I can't wait to see a front four of

895
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: what Hayward Benton Hi Smith. Yeah, you see that on

896
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: third and seven or whatever. I mean, you got a

897
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: lot of beef out there, and you just have a

898
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: lot of athletic ability.

899
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I still I think you know, Ogun Joebi and

900
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Montravius Adams are playing Wall as well. Great.

901
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: I think Adams had a really good year. Yeah, I

902
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: mean I'm a super high hopes for him. I don't

903
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: think he's Casey Hampton, but he may play sideline. The

904
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: sideline he doesn't get blown out in the run game.

905
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: He took a hand off from Jimmy Garoppolo in that

906
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: game I don't.

907
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: Know how he got the ball off. I mean watching

908
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: watching on TV was like even the announcers were like,

909
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: how did the ball end up in Jacob's hands? I

910
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: mean like it was split second, you know.

911
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's quick off the ball.

912
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's gonna be really good. Yeah, absolutely no

913
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: doubt about that.

914
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: But we're gonna get to another break. He is the

915
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lowlley. You're listening to the

916
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

917
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: more right after this.

918
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

919
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

920
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

921
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Man, we are back. He is Dan, Matt Williams and

922
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lowett. You're listening to the Drive here

923
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio, and i'm Matt. You made reference

924
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: to this earlier in the show. The Steelers now at

925
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: two and one, they hold they're in a three way

926
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: tie for first place in the AFC North. If you

927
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: go by the tie breakers, they're in first place because

928
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: well they they're one to oh in the division. They're

929
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: two and oh now in the conference.

930
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: As good as tiebreakers you can have that's yeah, the

931
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: tie breakers at the head win against the Browns. The

932
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: Ravens just lost the cold.

933
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: So if you look at the AFC standings right now,

934
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: Miami's three and oh they're the only unbeaten now in

935
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: the AFC. You get the Steelers in at two and one.

936
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: It's seventy points by the way.

937
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched that game. Denver was atrocious.

938
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: They're so bad. They're so bad. Yeah, there's a couple

939
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: of teams that are hideous right now. Denver's at the top. Yeah,

940
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: them and the Bears.

941
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So the Steelers will be the two

942
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: seed if the playoffs started today, Yeah, play that game.

943
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: Kansas City would be the three, Indianapolis would be the four.

944
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're winning their division two.

945
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Uh they are.

946
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's very disappointing, some.

947
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Of you know, that's some of this stuff that you

948
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: looked at going into the season. Well, the game against Colts.

949
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: That'll be they'll win that one.

950
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Win that one.

951
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: They'll probably lose the jack the Jaguars coming here.

952
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: That's a tough game. I don't know if it is

953
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: or not.

954
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not sure if the Colts are

955
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: good or not. But they're doing well. What if Richardson

956
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor are on that team now?

957
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Is that better?

958
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: Worse?

959
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't think Jonathan Taylor ever plays for them.

960
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: Again, I have thought that all along. But I'm sitting

961
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: there wondering.

962
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: Watching Moss run yesterday, like, Okay, you don't need Jonathan Taylor.

963
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I said why they're not gonna Why

964
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: they won't want to pay.

965
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: Him, especial when their quarterbacks getting all the carries?

966
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: You will too.

967
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder if Taylor looks at it like, well,

968
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: they're they're winning, I'm gonna go back and finished season

969
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: out on what he's thinking.

970
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: He may just say I don't want to get hurt.

971
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: Maybe trade will get paid. There are a lot of

972
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: running back injuries. Maybe a team would want them more

973
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: now than they did three weeks ago.

974
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Could happen Ravens, You know, the Ravens would be the

975
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: number one. That's a big loss for that though. I

976
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: looked at their schedule and like, well they haven't played

977
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: anybody yet. They lose to the Colts at home.

978
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: Didn't see that coming.

979
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: Their offense is now more lamar centric than it ever

980
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: has been.

981
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, there's changes, but they don't throw

982
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: the dependent.

983
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: They now don't throw the ball to They're They're big

984
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: change in their offense is they don't throw the ball

985
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: to Mark Andrews. That's the change in the offense that

986
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: I see.

987
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: Which is the only thing that's gone well for their

988
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: passing game for two years now.

989
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Now all those passes that used to go to Andrews

990
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: now go to Zay Flowers. Yeah, who a nice prospect

991
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: is a rook Sure he's exciting, he's like six yards

992
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: of catch yesterday.

993
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So well, they're also not playing with all their linemen,

994
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: and the running game is a disaster, and or the

995
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: running back positions a disaster. I think Lamar's playing really well,

996
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: But I assumed the offense would be we have this

997
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: Andrews thing in place, Great, we'll start there and then

998
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: add the receivers, not eliminate the foundations or targets. Yesterday, Yeah,

999
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: in an overtime game, in an overtime game that really

1000
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: went what like seventy minutes almost going down to the wire,

1001
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: and a lot of opportunities to give them the football.

1002
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: And I don't think they're easing them back in because

1003
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: he's injured or all type of things either, right, it's crazy. Yeah,

1004
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: and their defense isn't great.

1005
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's obviously I thought too.

1006
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: And oh was a bit of an aberration. I'm not

1007
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: shocked there too. And one, I mean, they're a good

1008
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: football team. I just don't think they're the class of

1009
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: the AFC or anything like that. Miami might be the

1010
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: class of THEFC. I don't know, they might be. Yeah,

1011
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: they played the Bills next week.

1012
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a big game.

1013
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: Way that both those teams looked this past week. Uh

1014
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: real quick speaking to Denver, guess who they played next week?

1015
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: The Bears.

1016
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, nobody's watching that game. The Browns are

1017
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: right after that. So if the playoffs began today, the

1018
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Browns would be the sixth seed and then the Bills.

1019
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: I will say that's the best Watson's played in the

1020
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: Browns uniform.

1021
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, he played, the numbers were fine.

1022
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: He did throw the ball in the seats, well, he

1023
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: kind of did.

1024
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: He just inexplicably as he was getting sacked through the

1025
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: ball backwards.

1026
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: Ye, backwards. There are some weird things, but I like

1027
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: the way the ball came out of his hand. Completed passes,

1028
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: use them. Ari It was definitely his best passing game

1029
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: as a Brown to me. But the Titans will do

1030
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: that like, oh yeah, you don't run on the Titan.

1031
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: You don't run on them, but you can throw on

1032
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: them all day.

1033
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: The Bills will be the seventh seed. Now they play

1034
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: the Dolphins this week. Do you think they're the best

1035
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: team in the AFC? The Bills?

1036
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what Miami's done is remarkable.

1037
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know Miami has also given up seventy

1038
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: one points defensively.

1039
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: Like Kansas City is still in the league.

1040
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City is still there. Yeah, the Bills have given

1041
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: up thirty five points. Yeah.

1042
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: Their defense was ridiculous against Washington, unbelievable.

1043
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they just all that Sam Howell talk. Well,

1044
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: Sam Howe the first quarterback to throw for two hundred

1045
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdown passes and each of his first

1046
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: three starts and winning. We didn't do that.

1047
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: Yesterday in our fantasy league, I played against the team

1048
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: that had the Bills defense moster Are and Keenan Allen

1049
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: like it was over before. Yeah yeah h then you

1050
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: get the those are the those teams, those are the playoff.

1051
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Teams right now in the AFC. Are the only teams

1052
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: that have winning records.

1053
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: So everyone waiting record in the AFC you have, okay,

1054
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: and that doesn't change with the Bengals winning the Night one.

1055
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Does not they would be one and two. So you

1056
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: got the Patriots, the Jets, the Texans, the Jaguars, the Titans,

1057
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: the Raiders, the Chargers all at one and two, one

1058
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: and two. The Bengals right now are zero and two

1059
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: and the Broncos are oh and three, two winless teams.

1060
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: Denver's awful.

1061
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us think the Bengals stink.

1062
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: But Burrow's calf stinks. Yeah, and that might be enough

1063
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 3: for the Bengals to stink.

1064
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: You look at the end.

1065
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: The Raiders are bad. By the way, there's some bad

1066
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: teams there that have won games. I don't know that

1067
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: the Jets can.

1068
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the Raiders beat the Broncos.

1069
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: As I say, there wins against a terrible team. Yeah,

1070
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: Denver's horrendous.

1071
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: The Jets right now are horrendous.

1072
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: Jets are horrendous, horrendous. New England's fine, but they're not good.

1073
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah they're not. I mean they're a middling team.

1074
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't think Tennessee's six or seven win team, six

1075
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: or seven win team.

1076
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jaguars right now look like a six or

1077
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: seven win team. They do. Trevor Lawrence is not playing well, he's.

1078
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Not, but they're all so Ridley drops a touchdown. They

1079
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 3: have the most drops in the league. They let up us.

1080
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: They get a kick blocked against Houston and allow a

1081
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: return for touchdown to a fullback. Yeah, I mean, like

1082
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: their pass rusher. I mean, I've really dug into Houston.

1083
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: They're advanced scouting the Texans. He got sacked eleven times

1084
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: in the first two games, didn't get touched by the Jags,

1085
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 3: you know, like, and they're playing with one starting offensive

1086
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: lineman in Houston.

1087
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: Well the other the other thing that Jacksonville came out

1088
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: in that game. They were at the end of the

1089
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: first half and I looked at it and they had

1090
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: run atn like eighteen times a lot.

1091
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were really and going to Lawrence.

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00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: Lawrence had thrown like twelve passes, Like what are you doing?

1093
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: What are you doing? And you're losing seventeen.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if Jacksonville is a plexiglass principal team.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you take a Andre the giant step

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Speaker 3: forward usually take a human step step back and they

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Speaker 3: took an Andre the Giant step forward. But you would

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Speaker 3: still think they should win that division. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: definitely the best quarterback, whether he's playing like it or not.

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Speaker 3: I just you got to use right now. You got

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Speaker 3: to use them, Yeah they do. I just don't you

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Speaker 3: know something's missing there right now?

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Speaker 2: If you if you are the better team, unless you're

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00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: ripping through that that you throw to get the lead and.

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Speaker 3: Then you run, yeah, if you can, you don't fall.

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Speaker 2: Behind to a lesser team and then try to run

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Speaker 2: your way back into the game. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: You don't want that offense to go through atm. You

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00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: want to go through Lawrence, Yeah, like he's your best player,

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Speaker 3: and Ingram and all those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy to me. But the AFC right now

1112
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Speaker 2: is fascinating.

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Speaker 3: It really is. And it looked like, boy, the AFC

1114
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: so much better than the NFC. Anyone in the world

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Speaker 3: thought that before the season started. I'm not sure it

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Speaker 3: still might be. It still might be, and they're gonna

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00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: all beat each other up throughout the year, like I

1118
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: could be great.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, Philadelphia in Dallas I think are good football teams.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly can see Dallas as three now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know who else in the in

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Speaker 2: the NFC is good.

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Speaker 3: I thought these last two weeks were really interesting with

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Speaker 3: the Tier two teams of and I'm not sure I

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Speaker 3: know answers, but Saints, Falcons, Packers, Lions, Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: The Saints are another one. So they're leading that game

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Speaker 2: at the half. Yep, Derek Carr gets hurt. You bring

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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston off the bench, and then you don't run

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Speaker 2: the ball with a lead. With the lead, you just

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Speaker 2: have Jamis drop back and throw the ball a bunch

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Speaker 2: of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's an above average backup. But you wouldn't

1133
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Speaker 3: do that with Trubisky.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, you're winning the game.

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Speaker 3: You're winning the game. Way in your defense is really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you allowed them to come back in that game.

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Speaker 3: Detroit's more real than I thought they would be. Like,

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Speaker 3: their defense was really good against Atlanta, and Atlanta cannot

1139
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: play I forget who said it Atlanta beats bad teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't play ketchup.

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00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: They can't play catchup. Ritter is not good, by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna They're gonna be the quarterback market this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt my mind, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we come back, we'll take a look at how

1147
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: our fantasy football team did. We still got a couple

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Speaker 2: of guys in play it today too.

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Speaker 3: I can't even remember who we have. So much has

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Speaker 3: happened between now and then.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that and go ahead the big games

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Speaker 2: yesterday right after this