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Speaker 1: Ring, Ring Ring.

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Speaker 2: It's the end of a little era.

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Speaker 1: I've quite enjoyed myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been a lot of fun. We're not

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Speaker 2: just talking about the Olympics. This is the end of

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Speaker 2: season one of Two Guys Five Rings. With this episode,

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Speaker 2: as we look forward to more Olympics in the future,

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Speaker 2: we must also look back at Two Guys Five Rings,

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Speaker 2: which has really taken not only the media by storm.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's changed who we are and how

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Speaker 1: Bowen, Absolutely, I have never been more invested in the

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Speaker 1: materials of the mattresses in the Olympic village than I

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Speaker 1: have since this podcast. I've learned so much. We've had

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Speaker 1: such a great team that has helped us along the way.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you all. I mean, what will you take

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Speaker 2: You got to meet Greg Luganis I mean, that was amazing.

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Speaker 2: You got to go back and listen to that episode

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Speaker 2: in that interview if you haven't yet, I mean that

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Speaker 2: just such an icon and such a legend. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: and of course, always sharing time with my sister and

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Speaker 2: really really connecting over world events. I think we got

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Speaker 1: We did, and we got to talk about really important

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Speaker 1: things like Billie Eilish, like.

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Speaker 2: Lady Gaga Ao Ao, we smoke him.

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Speaker 1: And of course Celine Dion's wait, that's rhymes. I don't

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Speaker 1: fact that get thrown into international court for this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the producers are laughing, they're sending emojis, they're cracking. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Now, and of course Celin Dion, Hell, that's so insane.

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Speaker 1: My French Canadian ass is going that they're taking my

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Speaker 2: Italian In twenty twenty six, it's the Milan Courtina Winter

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Speaker 2: Olympics and Paralympics or twenty twenty six Milan Quurtina Olympic

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Speaker 2: Winter Games. Baby, it's gonna be the first Olympics winter

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's very I would say, Demi Levado and

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Speaker 1: Nick Jonas going on tour together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in that it's more than.

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Speaker 1: One, in that it's more and in that the world

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Speaker 1: remember it for all time like we are in Everyone

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Speaker 1: involved is very talented, that's true. You can't deny it.

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Speaker 2: In that way. It's a lot like the Demi Levada

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Speaker 2: Nick Jonas Tour.

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Speaker 1: More than thirty five hundred athletes expected to compete from

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Speaker 1: ninety three countries across both Olympics and Paralympics, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixteen events in sixteen sports in the Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 2: And a new Olympic sport. Yes, yeah, there's ski mountaineering

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Speaker 2: sort of the Breaking of the Winter Olympics, which was

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Speaker 2: And ski mountaineering. Competitors ski uphill and downhill and use

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Speaker 2: It's going to take strength, it's going to take determination,

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Speaker 2: seven more Olympic events overall compared to the one hundred

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Speaker 2: and nine contested at the twenty twenty two Beijing Winter Games,

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Speaker 2: There's now separate men's and women's doubles events instead of

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Speaker 2: Sean is weighing in and saying before we get into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like lose but loose. You lay on your

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, stop bowen, stop stop bowing. Stop it. I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: Thank god, equality at last, we have achieved total equality

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Speaker 1: We need cross country distance parody now, and we will

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Speaker 2: All legs, all legs equal. What else? The ski jumping

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Speaker 2: So we're talking Milan, Livigno, Bormeo, te Sero, Predazzo and Trcelva. Verona.

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Speaker 2: Am I saying all this correctly?

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Speaker 1: I think you are bro Vo brought Visimo to Matt

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Speaker 1: Rogers for that beautiful Italian pronunciation. Verona. Do you think

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Speaker 2: I think so. So Verona is hosting the closing ceremony

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Speaker 1: And what about Milan. I want to see Donnatella strut

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Speaker 2: Gaga again, Gaga again. Let me just say this out loud,

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Speaker 2: just because I know what happens when we do often

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Speaker 2: these things will just end up happening. Lady Gaga is

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Speaker 1: She was in a ski outfit in House of Gucci.

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Speaker 1: She knows what it's like to be on the mountains.

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Speaker 2: She knows all about it. She's been there and back.

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Speaker 2: We need to watch House of Gucci again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we do. Let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: athletes to watch from USA. We have Isibolevito in figure skating.

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Speaker 1: She'll be just Weakshi of her nineteenth birthday during the

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Speaker 2: I think the name on everyone's lips is gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great name.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? We are gonna be hearing Isabolevito

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Speaker 2: It's too good to say nothing of Ilia Molina. Ilia

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was possible. It's giving someone Biles,

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Speaker 1: coached by his parents, Roman Skornikov and Tatiana melaninaa both

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Speaker 2: Mmmm. Oh yeah, it's our number one export.

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Speaker 1: But iliya, if this man could do a quadruple axle.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I think ilia. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: My favorite figure skaters ever were the Canadian couple remember

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Speaker 2: But then they've since broken up, did you know? Well anyway,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Stoltz is a speed skater from the USA. Stilts,

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Speaker 2: Yep, getting physical.

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Speaker 1: Ope, We've got Jesse Dickens and cross country skiing, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I want there to be a Joan Didian Retrospective

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Speaker 1: Yes you. I agree with everything you said, nothing added.

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Speaker 2: I want them. I want the who shot party in

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Speaker 2: perfect way for us to end with that wish this podcast.

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Speaker 2: You are truly my sister in sports. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: You are truly my sister in international relations because sports

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Speaker 2: You and I we are an international relation. And that

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Speaker 2: Number one hundred.

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Speaker 1: You and I are an international relation. This has been

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