WEBVTT - Bloomberg Wall Street Week - September 20th, 2024

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the next generation of Wall Street Week, bringing

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<v Speaker 1>you stories of capitalism, stories that will help you think

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<v Speaker 1>about business, markets, economics, geopolitics, climate, and technology. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>we tell a story of the pride of an auto

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<v Speaker 1>industry and its home city pride that led to their

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<v Speaker 1>fall and their efforts to restore that pride. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a story about the business behind that restaurant where you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you belong. We start with a story about value.

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<v Speaker 1>The value of a college degree one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>investments many of us will ever make. But it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>more and more expensive for the students and for the institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one hundred percent. I mean, you know, financial considerations

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<v Speaker 3>is the main motive, and Purdue is an affordable college.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, I could have never imagined having access

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<v Speaker 3>to the amount of resource that I have access to

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<v Speaker 3>do here.

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Senior is a rising junior at Purdue. She pays

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<v Speaker 1>about forty one thousand dollars a year as an out

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<v Speaker 1>of state student, just over the national average of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars, a number that's gone up forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand and four. With students like Senior making

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<v Speaker 1>ends meet through a combination of grants, scholarships, and federal loans.

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<v Speaker 3>I am very appreciative of the scholarship and grant Purdue

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<v Speaker 3>has offered me. I would not be able to be

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<v Speaker 3>here without it.

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<v Speaker 1>As hard as it may be for many students and

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<v Speaker 1>their families to cover the costs, historically colleges and universities

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had to worry all that much about what they charge.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost of higher education rose faster than the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living for most of the last forty years, something

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<v Speaker 1>interrupted only by the big spike in inflation in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. But Mitch Daniels, who ran omb and then

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<v Speaker 1>served as governor of Indiana and as president of Purdue,

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<v Speaker 1>says that is changing, that people are no longer willing

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<v Speaker 1>to spend whatever colleges charge.

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<v Speaker 4>The systems sort of built for higher pricing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you had total pricing power in any business, in

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<v Speaker 4>other words, you could raise prices and you not only

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<v Speaker 4>don't lose customers, you may gain more. Because there's no

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<v Speaker 4>quality measurement, people have associated the price with quality, no

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<v Speaker 4>proof that that's true. That's certainly one reason the hardest

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<v Speaker 4>business to change is one that's succeeded for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and this model you call it, that was very successful,

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<v Speaker 4>had the wind at it's back and young people being

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<v Speaker 4>told you got to go to college, four year college,

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<v Speaker 4>and they followed the path at least resistance. Now, very belatedly,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a little consumer resistance. Finally, slowly the market has

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<v Speaker 4>begun to react to that. So you're seeing now a

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<v Speaker 4>system beginning to experience the shakeouts that other sectors have.

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<v Speaker 1>The shakeouts Mitch Daniels talks about are becoming more common

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States as colleges have cut programs places

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<v Speaker 1>like UNC Greensboro Drake and West Virginia University. The State

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<v Speaker 1>Higher Education Executive Association reports that over five hundred private,

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit four year colleges have closed down all together in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years. Some American students look to Great

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<v Speaker 1>Britain for an alternative, seeing high quality at much lower prices,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jillian Ted, who has added provost of King's College,

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<v Speaker 1>Cambridge to her responsibilities as US editor at large at

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<v Speaker 1>The Financial Times, says British schools are facing their own

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<v Speaker 1>financial pressures.

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<v Speaker 5>The challenge today is that essentially the numbers have exploded dramatically,

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<v Speaker 5>which in many ways is a good thing, but it

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<v Speaker 5>also means that the huge strain on public sector budgets,

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<v Speaker 5>which at the moment the government simply can't pay the

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<v Speaker 5>bill for all the students to have cheap education, let

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<v Speaker 5>alone free education. So what universities are facing today is

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<v Speaker 5>a squeeze where on the one hand, they are allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to charge students today for their tuition, but that's capped

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<v Speaker 5>at nine thousand pounds a year, and even that level,

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<v Speaker 5>which looks very low americanized, is seen as grotesquely high

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<v Speaker 5>by many people in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>As if the business model for higher education weren't challenged enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it's consumers. The students and the parents are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that they're getting good value for their money, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in the United States, where polls indicate that only

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six percent of adults say they have a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal or quite a lot of confidence in higher education,

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<v Speaker 1>a number that's down from fifty seven percent in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this system succeeding right now? And what is the goal?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we measure success for higher education?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>When I said succeeding, I meant they were able to

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<v Speaker 4>perpetuate themselves in their institutions. I didn't mean it was

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily succeeding for the students. That's a whole other question, which,

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<v Speaker 4>again way too late, is being asked more and more forcefully.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, a whole other discussion. Whether the system, as

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<v Speaker 4>we've been operating it has been teaching what it ought

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<v Speaker 4>to teach, teaching it as rigorously as it ought to

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<v Speaker 4>be taught, And therefore whether the young people emerging meet

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<v Speaker 4>either of I would say the two basic tests of success.

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<v Speaker 4>One are they ready for highly productive work somewhere in

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<v Speaker 4>the economy. Two are they prepared to be knowledgeable, engaged,

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<v Speaker 4>active citizens. And by those two measures we have the

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<v Speaker 4>system hasn't been doing, in general, too good a job.

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<v Speaker 1>The question of whether an increasingly expensive college education is

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<v Speaker 1>truly worth it is being asked on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 5>The explosion of digital technologies, the rise of AI, the

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<v Speaker 5>rise of homeworking means that the question of what we're

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<v Speaker 5>educating for is becoming increasingly unclear. And it's worth remembering

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<v Speaker 5>that so much of what we've had as higher education

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<v Speaker 5>and secondary education in the last century was created very

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<v Speaker 5>much post the Industrial Revolution in order to prepare a

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<v Speaker 5>workforce to either manage factories or work in a factory

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<v Speaker 5>and to have the discipline and the skills quad for that.

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<v Speaker 5>And today, of course, manufacturing is such a small part

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<v Speaker 5>of the economy that the question of what we're educating

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<v Speaker 5>for is becoming increasingly uncertain and challenged.

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<v Speaker 1>It should come as no surprise that, given the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>to the value of higher education, leaders are looking to

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<v Speaker 1>make changes. Eight years ago, Mitch Daniels shook things up

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<v Speaker 1>at Purdue, freezing tuition just two months in his job,

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<v Speaker 1>something that continues to this day. When you were on Purdue,

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<v Speaker 1>what business principles did you try to bring to bear

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<v Speaker 1>in managing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to tell you some brilliant set of brilliant strokes.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, and a lot of it had to do

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<v Speaker 4>with what question you asked. I used to say, we

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<v Speaker 4>saw if we decided we solve the question the equation

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<v Speaker 4>for zero. Instead of asking how much money do we

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<v Speaker 4>need next year to keep operating and keep peace and

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<v Speaker 4>happiness on the campus, we asked the question, what would

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<v Speaker 4>we have to do this year not to raise tuition?

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<v Speaker 4>What combination of things? It's not hard to find them

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<v Speaker 4>if you make that your goal. Capital spending is one

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<v Speaker 4>place it's the look. You can have very first rate

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<v Speaker 4>facilities without the gold plating that I've seen in so

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<v Speaker 4>many other places. If you watch things carefully, like staff

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<v Speaker 4>to student ratios, faculty to administrator ratios, things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not hard, as I say, to pick the low fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those places where the fruit may be hanging

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<v Speaker 1>low is in the administrative staff.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at these schools that astonishingly have more administrators than students.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, a lot of that could disappear. I used

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<v Speaker 4>to say to people, you'd be amazed how much government

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<v Speaker 4>you'd never miss.

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<v Speaker 1>But as is the case elsewhere, it's awfully hard to

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<v Speaker 1>cut your way to success. In the end, it comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to providing a service, a product of real and

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable value, one tailored for today, that will leave you

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<v Speaker 1>in good stead well into the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve years ago, on my arrival, more than forty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the students were already studying the STEM discipline. Today

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<v Speaker 4>it's closer to two thirds, and the student body is

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<v Speaker 4>thirty percent bigger. But those are students' choices. The students

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<v Speaker 4>are seeing that these are exciting things to learn, exciting

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<v Speaker 4>careers beyond them. And we responded to what we thought

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<v Speaker 4>was going to be that demand.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, for Mitch Daniels, one investment that is well

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<v Speaker 1>worth the price paid is an education in business, something

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<v Speaker 1>that at Purdue is now granted by the Mitch Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>School of Business.

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<v Speaker 4>We sensed a growing appetite and I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>positive of students who want to study business and hope

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<v Speaker 4>and hope to have a career there. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>I want them to be grounded in a little broader

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<v Speaker 4>way than much business education today is. They'll have read's,

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<v Speaker 4>some economic history, some economic philosophy. They'll have been able

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<v Speaker 4>to compare systems. They'll make up their own minds which

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<v Speaker 4>system is better for the vast majority of people. But

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<v Speaker 4>they ought to know something about that, not just how

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<v Speaker 4>to read a balance sheet or how to calculate an MPV.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond that, I want them to leave with a sense

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<v Speaker 4>that this career they've chosen is a noble one.

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<v Speaker 1>Over at King's College, Camber Jillian and Ted is similar

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<v Speaker 1>focused on making sure that students are being prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>a world transformed by technology, but not defined by it.

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<v Speaker 5>British OIGH education is starting to play around with online learning,

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<v Speaker 5>partly as a result of COVID. But the path that

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<v Speaker 5>Oxford and Cambridge are going down and most of the

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<v Speaker 5>other British universities is to say that there is a

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<v Speaker 5>real value in face to face education, not just because

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<v Speaker 5>it's chat GBT resistant, because it is actually by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>but also because face to face education gives kids the

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<v Speaker 5>skills they're going to really need for the future, such

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<v Speaker 5>as the ability to get along with people they might

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<v Speaker 5>disagree with, such as the ability to present an argument

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<v Speaker 5>but to have a socratic debate which doesn't just take

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<v Speaker 5>one side. And any higher education establishment that can teach

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<v Speaker 5>kids to not just be able to amass knowledge in

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<v Speaker 5>a computer, but also the skills to navigate people will

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<v Speaker 5>have an advantage. So we used to talk about the

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<v Speaker 5>digital divide being between kids who knew about tech skills

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<v Speaker 5>and kids who don't. Today there's another digital divide, which

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<v Speaker 5>is the kids who know about tech skills but can

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<v Speaker 5>still talk to humans effectively and manage them and be

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<v Speaker 5>creative as a human. They will be the really advantage

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<v Speaker 5>ones in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>However, the leaders running higher education sort it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing they agree on is that although it's

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<v Speaker 1>a business, we must never lose sight of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's also much more than a business.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a mission, and it's something which is much higher

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<v Speaker 5>than any commercialization mantra would suggest, and we need to

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<v Speaker 5>keep that in mind above all else. We're really investing

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<v Speaker 5>in kids, but not just in money, in all kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of other ways as well. And yes, we need to

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<v Speaker 5>pay the bills, but it cannot be just about paying

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<v Speaker 5>the bills. It's fundamentally about championing the source of ideas,

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<v Speaker 5>creation and learning.

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<v Speaker 4>Higher education are not supposed to be a business. I

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<v Speaker 4>used to say the same thing about government, But it

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<v Speaker 4>can be much more business of life. It just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to in too many cases until recently. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>we don't overreact, though, because the college degree as we've

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<v Speaker 4>known it, if it's well done, I think, is still tremendous.

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<v Speaker 4>There's still a great return on that very expensive investment.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the end, the question of whether a college

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<v Speaker 1>education gives value that justifies the cost is for those

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<v Speaker 1>receiving it to decide. People like becka senior.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the personal growth and professional development that Purdue

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<v Speaker 3>has offered me is definitely going to take me to

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<v Speaker 3>a good career or grad school.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up the story of a city and an industry

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<v Speaker 1>fighting to regain their pride. That's next on Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Week on Bloomberg. This is a story about pride, pride

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<v Speaker 1>and the way up pride that comes before a fall,

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<v Speaker 1>and what its to restore the pride of a business,

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<v Speaker 1>an industry, and a city when they've lost their way.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Bloomberg Radio colleague Michael Barr is a native of

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit who watched his city burn during the Riots of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, as a once great economic hub edit

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<v Speaker 1>a period of decline.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to give away my age because that happened

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<v Speaker 6>in sixty seven and I was three years old, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was in southwest Detroit, and at the time I

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<v Speaker 6>saw the National Guard Enerje go by. Now being a

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<v Speaker 6>stupid kid, I'm thinking, oh Gi, Joe, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 6>that the dagone city is burning down. Between that, how

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<v Speaker 6>the auto industry really took a hard nosedive.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of Detroit is all the more dramatic given

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<v Speaker 1>what it had once been, the motor city that helped

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<v Speaker 1>drive the US economy. Autoproduction once accounted for almost five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of USGDP and nearly a million jobs at its peak.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit was the fourth largest city in the nation. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a happy story if it had ended there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't. Rising costs, new competition, particularly from Japanese automakers,

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<v Speaker 1>and an oil crisis hit the industry hard, reducing US

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<v Speaker 1>auto industry employees by more than a third in thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>from more than nine hundred thousand nineteen fifty to run

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand by nineteen eighty two. Today, auto abuile

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<v Speaker 1>production accounts for under three percent of US GDP, and

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit has fallen from fourth to twenty sixth in the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks of US cities. According to current Ford CEO Jim Farley,

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<v Speaker 1>an entire industry, including his own Ford Motor, had failed

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<v Speaker 1>to see and respond to the changes happening around it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think World War two is a big challenge for

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<v Speaker 7>the company, and when Henry Ford the second led the

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<v Speaker 7>company back to a revitalized state through the Whiz Kids.

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<v Speaker 7>We hired all these logistics experts from the army after

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<v Speaker 7>the World War Two and they really created this kind

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<v Speaker 7>of bureaucratic but an incredibly efficient machine. And the company

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<v Speaker 7>was back in the sixties, and then the energy crisis came.

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<v Speaker 7>The company didn't have efficient vehicles, it wasn't competitive among quality,

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<v Speaker 7>and it really lost its way in the seventies, as

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<v Speaker 7>well as the city of Detroit after the riots and.

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<v Speaker 1>We were lost, and from there things just got worse.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of the twentieth century, it was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to remember where it had all started, back in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, when Henry Ford invented his quadricycle and then

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<v Speaker 1>moved quickly to found the company he named after himself

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, introducing his iconic Model T in nineteen oh eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then inventing the first moving assembly line, which went

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<v Speaker 1>on to produce twenty million of those Model t's in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 7>My grandfather is a good example, you know. He was

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<v Speaker 7>an educated man, but he had a great job at

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<v Speaker 7>Ford and built his family. His kids went to college eventually,

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<v Speaker 7>and just like your family.

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<v Speaker 1>My family was one of those affected by Ford, where

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<v Speaker 1>my dad went to work in lower level management in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties and continued until cutbacks in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineties led him to take a buyout. But long before

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<v Speaker 1>my dad went to work there, long before it all

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<v Speaker 1>went south, Detroit erected an emblem of the growth and

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<v Speaker 1>strength of the new auto industry the Michigan Central station.

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<v Speaker 1>At its peak, over two hundred passenger trains left that

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<v Speaker 1>station every day, carrying over four thousand passengers, and another

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand people worked in the office tower above the station.

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Central continued it to rain well into the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>when Detroit was the home to some two million people.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the American auto industry went into a long

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<v Speaker 1>period of decline as Autoplant after Autoplant began to shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>As the auto industry went, so went Michigan Central. The

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<v Speaker 1>last Amtrak train left the station in nineteen teen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the Detroit Lambark to fall into disuse and decay,

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<v Speaker 1>its windows broken, its roof open to the sky, It's

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<v Speaker 1>marble scavenged. By twenty thirteen, the Detroit City Council had

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<v Speaker 1>voted to tear the train station down, and it took

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<v Speaker 1>a determined Mayor Duggan leading a group of detroiters to

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<v Speaker 1>restore Michigan Central to what it is again.

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<v Speaker 8>From my first day in office, getting that train station

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<v Speaker 8>reoccupied was a central focus. There was no way it

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<v Speaker 8>was going to be a demolished just meant too much

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<v Speaker 8>to too many generations. And so my first month, Matt Moron,

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<v Speaker 8>the owner, was in my office had a list of

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<v Speaker 8>things that they wanted, and I said, I want one thing.

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<v Speaker 8>I want you to put windows in that abandoned train station.

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<v Speaker 8>And he looked at me like I was crazy, and

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<v Speaker 8>I said, all people see when they look at that

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<v Speaker 8>train station is blight.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 8>And so we made a deal on some other things

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<v Speaker 8>where they spend a million dollars to put in windows.

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<v Speaker 8>And when the windows started to go in, it hit

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<v Speaker 8>an electric effect in the city. Everybody driving by in

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<v Speaker 8>the freeway said, oh my God.

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<v Speaker 1>To bring Michigan Central and Detroit back from the brank,

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<v Speaker 1>it took more than private industry and government. Darren Walker

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<v Speaker 1>runs the foundation the Ford family created in the nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>and he helped lead philanthropies like his to step in.

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<v Speaker 9>The crisis of twenty thirteen was significant, to say the least.

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<v Speaker 9>The moutheisence that was committed was shocking and criminal, and

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<v Speaker 9>of course the city found itself in this very odd

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<v Speaker 9>situation with the museum being an asset of the city

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<v Speaker 9>which was a debtor. The Ford Foundation made the first

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<v Speaker 9>grant one hundred and twenty five million dollars. Of that

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<v Speaker 9>four hundred that helped I believe to insent others to join,

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<v Speaker 9>and it was one of my proudest moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But above all, Detroit needed the auto industry to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to set aside the pride that it caused it

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<v Speaker 1>to underestimate its foreign competitors for too long, and to

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<v Speaker 1>take a hard look at what those competitors were doing

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<v Speaker 1>better than they were where I worked.

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<v Speaker 7>At Toyota a young person with my family from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 7>That was the best car company when I graduated in

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<v Speaker 7>business school, you know, efficient and really focused on the customer,

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<v Speaker 7>and we became the best selling car with the camera

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<v Speaker 7>because we had a better car and it was built

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<v Speaker 7>in Kentucky. You know, ultimately, the competition in America, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a free society, is going to be you know, open market.

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<v Speaker 7>But ultimately, ultimately, in the end of the day, as

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<v Speaker 7>a CEO, I have to be completely competitive on quality

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<v Speaker 7>and cost to their quality and cost, take out all

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<v Speaker 7>the subsidies, all the tariffs. We have to be full competitive.

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<v Speaker 7>If you look at the company, this has happened many

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<v Speaker 7>many times. It's a company that's been through a lot,

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<v Speaker 7>but here we are. There is I think fifty companies

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<v Speaker 7>that have survived after fifty the fifties to be still here.

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<v Speaker 7>The average company now big companies stays on the stock

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<v Speaker 7>to change for like twenty years. You know, we've been

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<v Speaker 7>there for every year. So it's a company though that

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<v Speaker 7>when it gets is back against the wall, something magical happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you on the roadback? How far along that

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<v Speaker 1>road are you?

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<v Speaker 7>Our backs are off the stove pipes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford, along with GM and Stilantis, has clawed its way

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<v Speaker 1>back from the worst of it, with the three automakers

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<v Speaker 1>selling over six million units in the United States last

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<v Speaker 1>year and reaping more than a half a trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in revenue. They're profitable again, with Ford making over four

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in net income in twenty twenty three, all

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<v Speaker 1>of which has brought jobs back as well. Michigan unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>peaked apart from the pandemic in nineteen eighty two at

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen point six percent, well above the national average. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it had fallen all the way down to three point

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<v Speaker 1>six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Done.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mayor Douget explains, one plant at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I started, I sat with Bill Ford.

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<v Speaker 8>I sat with Mary Barr and I sat then with

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<v Speaker 8>Sergio Marcioni, who was running Fiat Chrysler, and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 8>if Detroit's going to come back, we've got to come

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<v Speaker 8>back on our strength. We're not going to be the

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<v Speaker 8>tech cobb, the biomedical hibe. The next time use cite

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<v Speaker 8>of parts plant, please ask them to come talk to

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<v Speaker 8>me first. And it was Bill Ford who was the

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<v Speaker 8>first one had flexingate made parts for Ford trucks. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 8>we landed a jeep plant with five thousand employees, almost

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<v Speaker 8>all Detroiters being hired. So that was terrific because I

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<v Speaker 8>had a large number of unemployed who had high school

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<v Speaker 8>degrees and we needed good paying manufacturing jobs. Now, with

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<v Speaker 8>the University of Michigan Grads School being built, we are

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<v Speaker 8>now competing for the tech jobs, the jobs of the future.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's exciting as well, because in this city we

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<v Speaker 8>need both. We need the people building the cars, we

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<v Speaker 8>also need people designing the jobs of the future. Son

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<v Speaker 8>on Fourteenth Street, next to the train station, is the

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<v Speaker 8>only public street in America where the road charges your car.

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<v Speaker 8>We have a self charging road while you park there

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<v Speaker 8>because the coil is underneath will charge it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're doing. It's the technology in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Now once again, as it did over one hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Central stands as a symbol for the potential of

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<v Speaker 1>the American auto industry, driven by the vision of another forward,

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<v Speaker 1>William clay Ford, the great grandson of patriarch Henry Ford.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it is you know, obviously it's a family company,

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<v Speaker 7>build's vision, but also the train station is very much

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<v Speaker 7>a symbol, a kind of a mark along our journey

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<v Speaker 7>to create a great company and we avoid a bankrupt

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<v Speaker 7>which was amazing in the early two thousands, has been

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<v Speaker 7>two thousands, but to build a vibrant company, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ev world, the digital vehicle world.

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<v Speaker 7>The train station felt like the right kind of challenger

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<v Speaker 7>project for four to be part of, so that we

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<v Speaker 7>could be part of the you know, revitalization of Detroit,

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<v Speaker 7>which had really been kind of used by almost the

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<v Speaker 7>national media as a example of the decay of the country.

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<v Speaker 7>And this felt like the kind of project that would

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<v Speaker 7>be emblematic of our recovery as a company.

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<v Speaker 1>With the US auto industry and the city of Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>on the rise again, the question is whether it can

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<v Speaker 1>continue on its path, can it avoid the tunnel vision

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<v Speaker 1>born a pride that led it to stumble fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>ago Like its competitors, for it has concluded that its

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<v Speaker 1>path the future lies through solving the riddle of electric vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is where we turn next on Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Week to the perplexing question of how and when to

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<v Speaker 1>make that transition to an electric future. This is Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Week. I'm David Weston. At the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, the United States radically changed how we move

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<v Speaker 1>people and cargo around. It was the dawn of the

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engine, pioneered by people like Henry Ford. According

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<v Speaker 1>to current Ford CEO Jim Farley, it changed our economy

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<v Speaker 1>and our world.

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<v Speaker 7>At that time, Ford was the pinnacle. We had eighty

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<v Speaker 7>percent market share globally of the car business. We were

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<v Speaker 7>working on our second vehicle called the Model A, built

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<v Speaker 7>at the Rouge. We were going from the moving as

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<v Speaker 7>semily line but basically buying our parts from other people,

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<v Speaker 7>to a completely integrated plant at the Rouge.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen oh eight, when Ford began producing the Model T,

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<v Speaker 1>there were only about two hundred thousand registered cars and

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<v Speaker 1>trucks in all the United States. In less than twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>that number had exploded to over seventeen million. Today it's

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<v Speaker 1>edging toward three hundred million, around nine cars for every

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<v Speaker 1>ten people. Now many see another transportation revolution, one that

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<v Speaker 1>will rival or even exceed that of one hundred years ago. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla was not the true pioneer in electric vehicles. General

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<v Speaker 1>Motors introduced its Evy one back in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>That experiment was quickly abandoned, and the Detroit automakers returned

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<v Speaker 1>to their core businesses of internal combustion engines, a business

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<v Speaker 1>on the upswing again, thanks in no small part, to

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<v Speaker 1>help the government during the Great Financial Crisis.

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<v Speaker 10>I was young staffer on the transition operation, standing before

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<v Speaker 10>the forefront of this new administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Congresswoman Haley Stevens served in the Obama administration, which

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<v Speaker 1>faced the imminent demise of the US auto industry. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 10>All I could do in my spare time is read

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<v Speaker 10>the Detroit Free Press online and look back to what

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<v Speaker 10>was going on in Michigan, in my hometown. This was very,

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<v Speaker 10>very troubling, scary, and unique, in part because the word

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<v Speaker 10>bankruptcy started to enter this sentence as it related to

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<v Speaker 10>General Motors and to Chrysler, and particularly to hear the

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<v Speaker 10>words General motors and bankruptcy in a sentence was foreign

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<v Speaker 10>and newfound territory. And so I knew that if I

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<v Speaker 10>was going to serve in the administration of Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 10>I had to do something for Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>It was catastrophic, But now comes the hard part converting

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<v Speaker 1>to a world of electric vehicles, and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to go. Tesla led the way, going from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thousand EV sales in twenty thirteen to one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight million a decade later. GM, Slanted, and Ford are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to catch up and are growing their EV businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>but off of a much lower base, selling around one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand EV's in the United States in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, or less than three percent of their output.

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<v Speaker 1>EV success will require a fundamental rewiring of all the

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<v Speaker 1>car companies, including Ford.

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<v Speaker 7>We're well into the messy middle of the most transformational

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<v Speaker 7>time other than the Model T you know, we've never

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<v Speaker 7>gone through this electrification transition for low co two drive trains.

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<v Speaker 7>We've never had a digital product before. We never could

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<v Speaker 7>give people time back like we will with Level three autonomy.

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<v Speaker 7>We're investing in all that enabling technology. We're very profitable

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<v Speaker 7>with our pro business and our combustion business. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we're just a few years away from another

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<v Speaker 7>vibrant period for the company, and as leaders, we see

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<v Speaker 7>it before everyone else sees it, and so it's it's

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<v Speaker 7>exciting for us, but we feel a tremendous amount of

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<v Speaker 7>responsibility for your parents, for you, for my grandparents.

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<v Speaker 1>Reinventing a huge legacy company takes money and lots of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford has said that it plans to invest twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in electrification through twenty twenty five, and in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, GM set a bold target of transitioning

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<v Speaker 1>its entire fleet to EV's by twenty thirty five, all

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<v Speaker 1>to make a product the vast majority of consumers have

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<v Speaker 1>yet to embrace.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm so proud of our domestic automakers for continuing to innovate,

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<v Speaker 10>continuing to lead the way. They've doubled down on, particularly

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<v Speaker 10>electric vehicles in the plight towards zero emissions. They've made

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<v Speaker 10>the strategic investments and the automakers that we have today

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<v Speaker 10>as we head into the year twenty twenty five are

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<v Speaker 10>so different than the automakers of the turn of the century.

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<v Speaker 10>The world is moving towards electric vehicles. We're seeing this

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<v Speaker 10>in markets on all continent. We want the United States

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<v Speaker 10>automakers and workers to be leading the way. We want

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<v Speaker 10>them to be dealt in.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford's Jim Farley admits that traditional US automakers have a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to go, but insists they are making progress.

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<v Speaker 7>The growth in the US is still you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>were up thirty forty percent in electric sales, were number

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<v Speaker 7>two in the US to Tesla. We're also number three

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<v Speaker 7>in hybrids. We're the only company that kind of you

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<v Speaker 7>can buy an F one fifty electric or hybrid, or

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<v Speaker 7>or a V eight. You know, it's your choice. And

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<v Speaker 7>so we've learned a lot from customers. I think what's

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<v Speaker 7>happened is we're in the mainstream customer, and the mainstream

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<v Speaker 7>customer is totally different than their early adopters.

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<v Speaker 1>That consumer resistance to the next round of EV sales

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<v Speaker 1>has caused Ford and the other US automakers to trim

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<v Speaker 1>back their aggressive goals, at least for the time being,

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<v Speaker 1>with Ford announcing it will entirely shut down its plans

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<v Speaker 1>for an all electric suv at a cost of over

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<v Speaker 1>four billion dollars, something Congressmen Stevens monitors closely. Even as

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<v Speaker 1>she remains sure of where things are headed over the

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<v Speaker 1>long run.

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<v Speaker 10>None of us fully know how the consumers are going

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<v Speaker 10>to embrace electric vehicles. I know anytime I get with

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<v Speaker 10>an automaker, I'm asking how are these cars being sold?

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<v Speaker 10>What needs to be done? But one thing is very clear.

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<v Speaker 10>The world is moving towards electric vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever resistance some consumers may have to evs Ted Cannis,

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<v Speaker 1>president of ford Pro, the commercial arm of the company, says,

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<v Speaker 1>the story is very different for businesses running fleets of trucks,

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<v Speaker 1>fans and emergency vehicles.

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<v Speaker 11>A retail customer is making the decision of choice and

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<v Speaker 11>might be a very personal decision about their own commitment

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<v Speaker 11>to what they like are the fast cars. But in

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<v Speaker 11>a business, it's a business. You're trying to improve fuel costs,

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<v Speaker 11>run maintenance, enter a quiet neighborhood in the working hours,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 11>there's real business res sands to have an electric vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Give what Cannis says about commercial demand, it's no surprise

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<v Speaker 1>that his Ford Pro is now the company's most profitable unit.

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge is keeping up with the demand.

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<v Speaker 11>The demand remains so strong, but it's for the rest

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<v Speaker 11>of this year. I t it's going to be a backlog.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any.

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<v Speaker 1>Concern that that may give an opportunity to competitors If

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get the vehicles they want when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get it, they might go to someplace else.

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<v Speaker 2>That has been a concern.

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<v Speaker 11>There's no question if there's open capacity, people prefer our product,

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<v Speaker 11>whether on.

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<v Speaker 1>The consumer or the commercial side. The transformation to electric

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<v Speaker 1>is about more than just propulsion and connectivity. The manufacturing

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>process itself is fundamentally different, which could come at the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of some employment, a major issue in the last

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<v Speaker 1>collective bargaining agreement with the UAW and something that the

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<v Speaker 1>congresswoman who represents many of the Detroit area autoworkers has

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<v Speaker 1>very much in mind.

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<v Speaker 10>We're certainly seeing some volatility in the market. I'm eyeing

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<v Speaker 10>still is very closely, in part because as they're transitioning,

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 10>they're winding down some manufacturing. Then they're announcing job layoffs.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 10>They've got tight contracts, but there's also some tough conversations

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 10>that are taking place even though those contracts have been set.

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<v Speaker 10>In part, we don't want to be ushering in anything

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<v Speaker 10>that isn't fair for the hard working men and women

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<v Speaker 10>of our auto industry.

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<v Speaker 1>As if making the transition to EV's work hard enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The Detroit automakers are doing it in the face of

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<v Speaker 1>stiff competition, first from Tesla and now from Chinese EV makers,

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<v Speaker 1>with Byd alone now producing over three million cars last

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<v Speaker 1>year and threatening to export their much less expensive models

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<v Speaker 1>into the United States, something that Biden administration says it

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<v Speaker 1>will at least slow down by imposing tariffs of over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. For his part, the Ford CEO says

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't object to the competition, provided it's fair.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been doing this for forty years. I worked for

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<v Speaker 7>Toyota for a couple of decades. I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 7>competition like this. They have full sponsorship of their government.

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<v Speaker 7>The government bent on evs before anyone else in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>They're the largest market in the world, and now they're

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<v Speaker 7>the most important market in the world. We can compete

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<v Speaker 7>and win against them, but we have to bring our

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<v Speaker 7>a game, and we have to learn of a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of new things.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be the.

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<v Speaker 7>Ultimate test of companies like Ford for the next one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred years. I fully believe we can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long journey for the auto industry and

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<v Speaker 1>for Detroit, from the peaks of production, employment, and profitability

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of the mid nineteen hundreds to the deep valleys at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the century. Now it looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>truly regained some momentum and some of that pride that

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it lost, But the industry and Detroit may have their

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>biggest challenges still ahead. We've talked about a very proud

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>time for Detroit and for Ford and then losing some

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of that pride with sort of losing the way, both

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for Detroit and for Ford. How do you make sure

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't lose it again? How do you make sure

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't make the same mistake in a different time,

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<v Speaker 1>in different places.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the most important question for a CEO, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think really the only answer is culture.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't depend on me.

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<v Speaker 7>It has to depend on kind of the heart and

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<v Speaker 7>soul of our workforce who comes in every day, and

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 7>their commitment to quality and cost is really only the

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<v Speaker 7>only way to be enduring and sustainable. Great companies like

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<v Speaker 7>Toyota did that to empower the factory worker to pull

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<v Speaker 7>the hand on cord when they saw something wrong. And

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<v Speaker 7>the only way I believe to sustain that afford is

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<v Speaker 7>not me.

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<v Speaker 1>The future of Detroit can't depend on any single person

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or any single company. At its best, the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the auto industry over the last century and more has

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>been one of innovation and investment. Is not letting unimaginable

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>success lead to complacency. As Andy Grove said, complacency breeds failure.

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Only the paranoid survive. Coming up a story about the

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.959
<v Speaker 1>restaurant business and the people behind it that's still ahead

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>on Wall Street week on Bloomberg. This is a story

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<v Speaker 1>about what makes the restaurant business work when it all

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>belongs food. It appeals the right atmosphere, people who make

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>us feel welcome, prices we are willing to pay, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, revenue to cover costs and make a profit.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a tough business, but ultimately, like any

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>good recipe, it works only when it all comes together,

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<v Speaker 1>all driven by a vision that turns a business into

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<v Speaker 1>a calling.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm born bread and Buttered in Harlem and one hundred

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 12>and fourteenth Street in Frederick. Douglass was one of the

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<v Speaker 12>most notorious drug in the community. There's a school down

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<v Speaker 12>the block, like halfway midway down the block. And it

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 12>broke my heart to know that school kids on their

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 12>way to school to learn how to witness that type

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 12>of activity. And I always said, you know, I complained

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 12>about it, and I'm like, but what am I going

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 12>to do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Melbolle Wilson is one of those who had a vision

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>which led her to start her own restaurant in Harlem,

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<v Speaker 1>as much for the sake of the neighborhood as for

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<v Speaker 1>the food.

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<v Speaker 12>My parents are from the South. My father is from

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<v Speaker 12>a very very small town, three stop lights, Hemingway, South Carolina.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 12>So they grew up saving money under their mattress. You know,

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 12>they didn't trust the banks. So what did I do

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 12>when I got paid? Whether it's at Sylvia's or Rosa

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 12>Mexicano Windows on the world, Every Friday when I got paid,

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 12>I put a little bit under my mattress. This particular day,

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 12>I said, let me see how much I've saved up. Well,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 12>I started counting and counting and counting.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I got scared. I'm like, oh my god, it's

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money.

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 12>I'd saved up three one hundred and twelve thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 12>in cash, in cash, five dollar bills, one dollar bills,

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 12>twenty hundreds. But I said, what am I going to

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 12>do with this? And I decided to change my neighborhood

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<v Speaker 12>to be the change that I wanted to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just Harlem that's been changed by restaurants like Melboury's,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>restaurateur of Danny Meyer, creator of the famed Union Square Cafe,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and Grammercy Tavern says, the New York restaurant business overall

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is thriving, often driven by connections to particular neighborhoods all

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>over the city, and.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 13>I think people more and more crave getting out to restaurants.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 13>In my entire career, I have never seen our restaurants

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 13>nearly as full as I are today.

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Our restaurant won't make it without the passion and vision

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of a Danny Meyer or a Melboe Wilson, but it

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>also has to make it as a business. So Miley

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>tell us about the restaurant business. How does the restaurant

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>business work? What drives it?

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, this is a tough business. It's a small

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 14>margin in business, and I think as customers were probably

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 14>not always aware of just how much it takes to

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 14>make a restaurant successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Miley Carpenter is the founding editor in chief of Food

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Network magazine, and she says, as tough as the business is,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it's also essential to the economic dynamism of cities like

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>New York.

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<v Speaker 14>I can't express how important the restaurant scene is to

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 14>the energy and the like. It's our life, but it's

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.439
<v Speaker 14>everything to New York.

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<v Speaker 1>There are over seven hundred thousand restaurant businesses in the

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>United States, bringing in revenues approaching ninety billion dollars a month,

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 1>or about four point six percent of the national GDP. Nationwide,

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>restaurants employ over twelve million people, according to the Department

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.399
<v Speaker 1>of Labor, making it the sixth largest labor sector in

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the country. But as important as restaurants are to our

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>economy and to our everyday lives, many were driven to

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the point of extinction when the pandemic hit in early

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 13>The pandemic brought really the entire industry, and I would say,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 13>especially in New York City, brought us to our knees

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 13>because we were not allowed to have revenue outside of

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 13>some pitily things like can you sell a bottle of

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 13>wine out the door? And horribly one of the toughest

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 13>things to reconcile was being an employee first company, and

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 13>then being in a position where the only way to

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 13>stay in business was to lay off a huge, huge

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 13>percentage of our company.

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<v Speaker 1>In New York City alone, restaurants employed over three hundred

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand workers before the pandemic hit, but nearly half of

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>those lost their jobs when the city shut down. Many

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>restaurants didn't survive the crisis, and the rest had to

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>make immediate changes to their businesses to keep them alive.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>The pandemic upended the world of commercial real estate and

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<v Speaker 1>with it the restaurants that depend on it, with much

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<v Speaker 1>of the industry still struggling to recover as people have

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<v Speaker 1>been slow to return to the office, something that has

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<v Speaker 1>both affected restaurants near those offices and created a potential

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<v Speaker 1>incentive to get people to come back.

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<v Speaker 15>We have diversified quite a bit our business model, especially

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<v Speaker 15>going through COVID. I think we've learned the hard way

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<v Speaker 15>because Daniel old model, as we all own and operated

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<v Speaker 15>like he owns this resturant physically, the walls and everything else,

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<v Speaker 15>becomes a lot of obligation to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Sebastian Silvestri is CEO of Dynex, which runs Daniel Blude's company.

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<v Speaker 1>He says restaurants like Ballues can be a magnet for

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<v Speaker 1>office workers.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm going to take like one like a cel Green,

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<v Speaker 15>for example, the one of our partner, and they have

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<v Speaker 15>those spectacular building like when Vanderbilt one Medicine. They're trying

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<v Speaker 15>to get tennant in. They're trying to bring people back

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<v Speaker 15>to work in the office. That's their own business. They

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<v Speaker 15>need to bring world class ammenities, and then they come

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<v Speaker 15>to people like us and say, hey, what could we

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<v Speaker 15>do here? But I think a company like a cel Green,

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<v Speaker 15>a larger commer show real estate company, they need world

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<v Speaker 15>class commenity and then this is when they come to us.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's been a win win for them and for us.

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<v Speaker 1>As hard as the pandemic hit commercial real estate, one

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<v Speaker 1>might think rensfree restaurants would come down, but Danny Meyer

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<v Speaker 1>says he hasn't seen that in New York.

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<v Speaker 13>Interestingly, the side rents are not down at all. It's

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<v Speaker 13>almost seems like whatever struggles developers and landlords are having

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<v Speaker 13>getting office tenants to come back, they're taking out on

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<v Speaker 13>the people who are on the street, the retail people.

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<v Speaker 13>So I would say that it's not necessarily a better

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<v Speaker 13>time to open a restaurant than it was. But I

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<v Speaker 13>have no question at all that the restaurants that have

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<v Speaker 13>opened post pandemic have been some of the most exciting

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<v Speaker 13>vintage that we've ever seen in New York City. Anyone

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<v Speaker 13>who opened a restaurant after the pandemic had a very

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<v Speaker 13>very real sense of where their neighborhood was at that point,

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<v Speaker 13>so that was a much better thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in other businesses that would cause a renegotiation at

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty.

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<v Speaker 13>Year lease, Well we tried, We tried with what success.

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<v Speaker 13>Modest modest look. Landlords have the best subscription business in

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<v Speaker 13>the world. It doesn't matter whether it's raining, they're going

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<v Speaker 13>to get their rent. It doesn't matter whether there's an

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<v Speaker 13>economic downturn, They're going to get their rent. So it's

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<v Speaker 13>a good business to be in. And unfortunately in New

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<v Speaker 13>York City, one of the things that I find quite

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<v Speaker 13>frustrating is that a lot of the landlords would rather

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<v Speaker 13>warehouse their space waiting for a sunny day, and so

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<v Speaker 13>that's not necessarily good for the streetscape of the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite all the challenges and uncertainties of running a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some that not only succeed, but succeed year

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<v Speaker 1>after year and become a part of the DNA of

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, something that New York restaurateur is like

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Meyer and Danielle Ballud have shown over decades, with

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<v Speaker 1>Danny starting Union Square Cafe back in nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>when he was just twenty seven and Danielle Ballude opening

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle eight years later.

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<v Speaker 16>We don't want to this oriental customer, neither these orient

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<v Speaker 16>out team, but we want to continue to progress and

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<v Speaker 16>keep us a level of excellence always and a style

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<v Speaker 16>of cooking that belonged to us. Danielle, me, myself, my team,

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<v Speaker 16>So there's always a French DNA in what we do.

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<v Speaker 16>And yet you know, after so many years in America,

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<v Speaker 16>there is this temptation of borrowing flavors, Like right now

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<v Speaker 16>we're doing a beef dish and we're using miso as

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<v Speaker 16>a curring and seasoning and flavoring around it.

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<v Speaker 15>I can talk about a place like Danielle. So it's

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<v Speaker 15>thirty one years, so there's.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people.

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<v Speaker 15>I have been with Danielle for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 15>I think that's the success in the Russian industry. That's

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<v Speaker 15>what I tell people all the time is when you

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<v Speaker 15>have good people, your job is to retain them, take

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<v Speaker 15>good care of them, make sure they're happy, give them,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, care and love and support, and give them

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<v Speaker 15>a career. But every time we open a new place,

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<v Speaker 15>it's like you have to start almost from scratch. And

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<v Speaker 15>you know, every ration is an enterprise in itself, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>Russian like Danielle employ over one hundred people, Same with

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<v Speaker 15>La Pavillon, same with Cafebulu, same with Central New York.

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<v Speaker 15>So every rasta and he's a business on his own.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, I'm so proud of the fact that our

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<v Speaker 13>two I was going to say oldest, but our two

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<v Speaker 13>senior restaurants, Union Square Cafe is going to be forty

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<v Speaker 13>years old in twenty twenty five. Grammercy Tavern is going

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<v Speaker 13>to be thirty this year, The Modern is twenty this year,

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<v Speaker 13>and Shakeshak is going to be twenty this year. So

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<v Speaker 13>that's pretty good. And what I'm really proudest about is

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<v Speaker 13>that in a city whose first name is New, where

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<v Speaker 13>people definitely want to talk about what's new? Have you

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<v Speaker 13>been any new restaurants? They love that that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 13>But I think what any restaurant strives to do that

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<v Speaker 13>is here for keeps, or that wants to be here

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<v Speaker 13>for keeps, that wants to become an institution in this

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<v Speaker 13>amazing city. If you go to ten restaurants, I'm going

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<v Speaker 13>to expect that seven of those ten restaurants are restaurants

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<v Speaker 13>you've never been to. Because it's fun to discover a

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<v Speaker 13>new place. I want to be one of the three

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<v Speaker 13>that make your list, ther rotation that you go back to,

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<v Speaker 13>and you go back to him because your favorite restaurant,

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<v Speaker 13>like mine, is someone that loves you the most.

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<v Speaker 1>As you've watched restaurants come and go over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>is there some sort of rule of thumb of which

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<v Speaker 1>ones work and which ones don't work?

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, I'm always fascinated by this. And when I'm

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<v Speaker 14>eating out, I'm looking around, is what's making this place packed?

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<v Speaker 14>Why is no one here when the food is great

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<v Speaker 14>and it's this sort of magical combination of elements. And

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<v Speaker 14>I think it's changing. And so restaurants that are able

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<v Speaker 14>to quickly adapt to the way we eat now versus

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<v Speaker 14>how we ate before COVID or how we ate ten

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<v Speaker 14>years ago, those are the ones that tend to survive.

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<v Speaker 14>And when I look now at which restaurants are really

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<v Speaker 14>you know, packing people in and able to keep them there.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, there's so many elements. I think fun is

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<v Speaker 14>a very important element that wasn't as important maybe ten

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<v Speaker 14>years ago. An element of sort of levity when we

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<v Speaker 14>go out to eat, we want to be entertained. Surprise

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<v Speaker 14>hugely important. Think about the restaurant experiences that you go

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<v Speaker 14>tell other people about. It's an element of surprise. It

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<v Speaker 14>is something something and grabbed you, whether it was a

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<v Speaker 14>little gift when you laugh, just that little something that

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<v Speaker 14>makes you tell a story. I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 14>best restaurants are storytellers.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's surprise or fun or a story, it all

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<v Speaker 1>has to come together and make us feel welcome.

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<v Speaker 13>When people come to a restaurant, they want to belong.

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<v Speaker 13>They want to feel like if they've been there before.

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<v Speaker 13>They want to know that you recognize that. They want

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<v Speaker 13>to feel seen. I don't think is ever going to change.

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<v Speaker 13>People want a hug, a virtual hug, but they want

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<v Speaker 13>to know that you are happy to see them back there.

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<v Speaker 13>And in a time when there's more alienation and if

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<v Speaker 13>you can point your finger at social media, work from home,

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<v Speaker 13>whatever you want to talk about. I think restaurants are

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<v Speaker 13>one of the great places that they're almost like a

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<v Speaker 13>town hall that bring people together, and restaurants can recognize

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<v Speaker 13>you and can be that part of your day that

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<v Speaker 13>just makes you feel happy that you're in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>And when all the pieces belong together, restaurants can help

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>trans form a community or a city. We felt the

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<v Speaker 1>loss when the pandemic hit, and perhaps we appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>connection all the more now that we can return to

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite restaurant that does it. For this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Week, I'm David Weston. This is Bloomberg. See

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<v Speaker 1>you next week with more stories of capitalism.