Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, No floating trash bags. This
Speaker 1: week from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It is Around
Speaker 1: the NFL, the flagship program, the Playoff edition, the first
Speaker 1: of for these bad boys, this one being well, that's
Speaker 1: not even right because we're gonna have a double recap.
Speaker 1: We got four games to dissect today, two more tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: and that just getting warmed up before Division Round Championship Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then of course the Super Bowl from Vegas where
Speaker 1: we'll be and the playoff weekend that we just enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Three blowouts and a tight one point affair and it
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Dan hanss Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: heroes Greg. A lot of stuff went on this weekend,
Speaker 1: some of it surprising, some of it not. But the
Speaker 1: road to the Lombardi starts to clear, ever so gently.
Speaker 2: I know it feels very strange that as we talk,
Speaker 2: there's ten teams left that can win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: We're coming off a high scene the team of atl
Speaker 2: from a year ago win that game, and that game,
Speaker 2: to me, it didn't save the weekend, and because I
Speaker 2: don't think the weekend needed saving, but we needed a
Speaker 2: game like that that was tight, and there's game management
Speaker 2: decisions to talk about, because the other two were Sessler
Speaker 2: specials where there were blowouts. But to me, at least
Speaker 2: a couple of them were entertaining blowouts, and one of
Speaker 2: them blew your mind blowouts.
Speaker 1: So it had a little bit blow your mind blowout.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean that creates very juicy storylines. I
Speaker 3: mean some of the wreckage and there are there have
Speaker 3: been some floating trashback operations this weekend, and there will
Speaker 3: be consequences.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is certainly true. In fact, Mark's gonna take
Speaker 1: them out back. In fact, let us get going here,
Speaker 1: and we're going to start with uh, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say the blow the blowout no one saw coming. There
Speaker 1: were a couple of those this weekend, but the one
Speaker 1: that went down in Texas today, there will be there
Speaker 1: will be reverberations, I think. So there will be tremors,
Speaker 1: there will be earthquakes, there will be dams breaking, there
Speaker 1: will be people swallowed by swarms of locus. That's that
Speaker 1: type of loss for the Cowboys. But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: the Packers made an announcement that the Glory Train will
Speaker 1: continue to ride unabated to Geral world.
Speaker 4: First in ten football at the thirty eight of Dallas
Speaker 4: play action of bootleg left half boot leg?
Speaker 5: Why don't put down the right side plus go turns out? Touchdown? Touchdown?
Speaker 5: Bloot lush craig a dagger, Hey, dagger, right to the
Speaker 5: heart of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Ooo, bongas are nice. This is fancy
Speaker 1: when we get this is the official Big Funk theme song.
Speaker 1: The Randy Shah beds behind the glass. Die hard Packers fan.
Speaker 1: You know, there's another dude, seems like a nice guy
Speaker 1: that we watch these games in the theater here who's
Speaker 1: a Packers fan. And he came in up the steps
Speaker 1: during the late game, and everybody gave hi a little
Speaker 1: round of applause because he's a diehard Packer fan. And
Speaker 1: I go to you start wearing that Packer shirt and
Speaker 1: he's like, no, man, I lived through two and six.
Speaker 1: I was like, you live through two and six, Well,
Speaker 1: it must be so hard to be a Packers fan.
Speaker 1: Try to walk a mile on lease shoes. Baby, All right,
Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is the pack That's
Speaker 1: not the point. The Packers absolutely roll the green. The
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys forty eight to thirty two, and do not
Speaker 1: do not look at that final score as a proper
Speaker 1: indicator of what happened in this game, because Green Bay
Speaker 1: offense from the initial possession Greg Rosenthal absolutely wipe the
Speaker 1: floor with dan Quinn's defense, and the Cowboys offense, conversely,
Speaker 1: had no way to match what was going on on
Speaker 1: the other side of the field.
Speaker 2: I get that there will be a lot of daktok,
Speaker 2: and there should be, and we'll get to that too,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't have mattered when you score six offensive
Speaker 2: touchdowns in your first seven drives, when you say we're
Speaker 2: not kicking the ball off, we're not deferring to the
Speaker 2: second half.
Speaker 6: We're taking the ball.
Speaker 2: And even when we can't run the ball the first
Speaker 2: couple plays of the game, we're gonna keep running the
Speaker 2: ball until it works. And we're gonna eat up seven
Speaker 2: and a half minutes of clock and score a touchdown
Speaker 2: on that very first guy, and we're gonna keep piling
Speaker 2: it up. And then when we come out of halftime,
Speaker 2: when you think you have a chance because you just
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, make it a little closer at halftime.
Speaker 2: That to me was the moment of the game. They
Speaker 2: ran right through them coming out of halftime. Then Stefan
Speaker 2: Gilmour tries to cut her out and ends up giving
Speaker 2: up a big play. And it was just a Dallas
Speaker 2: defense that all day was trying to do too much.
Speaker 2: But also they were soft, like they were soft and
Speaker 2: they were small. No team plays more dime defense in
Speaker 2: terms of white personnel when other teams have two tight
Speaker 2: ends on the field than Dallas.
Speaker 6: And they did it all day today.
Speaker 2: And when it mattered, Green Bay just lined up and
Speaker 2: they said, Michael Parsons, you're not gonna get near Jordan
Speaker 2: Love and you're not gonna get near Aaron Jones. In
Speaker 2: the second half, they made this Cowboys team look soft
Speaker 2: as hell, and they put up a forty burger before
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter started.
Speaker 3: I can't believe not a single sack for the Dallas defense.
Speaker 3: I think a big narrative was like ken Micah Parsons
Speaker 3: make life incredibly tough for Jordan Love. I mean I
Speaker 3: just saw wide open wide receivers over and over. I
Speaker 3: mean Romeo Dobs one hundred yards before halftime.
Speaker 6: Where was Parsons? He had like one pressure in the
Speaker 6: whole game.
Speaker 3: I mean also he got dinged up later on, But
Speaker 3: like what we came to know and like respect about
Speaker 3: Dallas's defense completely vanished today and what we thought Jordan
Speaker 3: Love could be he tripled and quadrupled it today.
Speaker 7: I mean it's like, where how far can they go?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: If they play like this, they can take anyone on.
Speaker 3: And even Aaron Jones, who had I think thirty yards
Speaker 3: in the first half, but you could tell he was
Speaker 3: running well, and that has been a weakness of this
Speaker 3: Dallas defense. Right able to just run right up the
Speaker 3: gut and I thought he'd down the stretch was such
Speaker 3: a huge difference maker for the Packers and really humbled Dallas.
Speaker 3: I mean I thought they were They come out of
Speaker 3: this with like as you said, Dan Tremor's earthquakes problems,
Speaker 3: huge questions. And we haven't even talked about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3: But two picks in the first half and the whole
Speaker 3: thing fell apart. We're up to to Dak Prescott teases
Speaker 3: we're getting there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Packers there lost.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones goes over one hundred yards with three touchdowns
Speaker 1: and Jordan Love threw for three touchdowns with I think
Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating. You had the Darnell Savage picked
Speaker 1: six for sixty four yards. This was a game that
Speaker 1: was twenty seven nothing going into halftime before the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got on the board on the last play of the
Speaker 1: second quarter. It ballooned up to what was it at
Speaker 1: a ties point in the third quarter. I mean this
Speaker 1: this game was an absolute.
Speaker 2: Forty eight to sixteen at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: There you go, when Jordan Love hit that little side pocket,
Speaker 2: Orde shot just absolutely ridiculous into a into a pinhole.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what a big, a big picture narrative
Speaker 1: this weekend is that elite defenses quote unquote are a
Speaker 1: myth because between what we saw from the Browns on
Speaker 1: Saturday and the Cowboys on Sunday, all the talk about
Speaker 1: these defenses to get shredded the way they did, and
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love, he is my goodness, I mean, what
Speaker 1: he has been able to do in these last two
Speaker 1: and a half months now, it really does evoke memories
Speaker 1: of the rise of Rogers and if you're old enough,
Speaker 1: the rise of barv And I thought it was so
Speaker 1: interesting that on that first drive that you were referenced Greg,
Speaker 1: which set the tone obviously for the whole afternoon, taking
Speaker 1: up half the first quarter and scoring a touchdown after
Speaker 1: electing to take the ball when you win the coin toss,
Speaker 1: you knew just by his body language, well he was
Speaker 1: moving in the pocket, that he was going to be
Speaker 1: a nightmare. And I talked about that on Thursday that
Speaker 1: even though I picked the Cowboys, we all picked the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: This just felt like such a bad matchup for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because the Packers seemed so lighter on their feet,
Speaker 1: and conversely, I thought the Cowboys just seemed so tight
Speaker 1: as a drum. And I thought that what you heard
Speaker 1: from the Fox team of Burkhart and Olsen, and they
Speaker 1: keep on repeating this and pushing this narrative like what's
Speaker 1: wrong with Dak and Ceedee Lamb today? There's something weird
Speaker 1: going on. What was weird was the Dallas Cowboys getting
Speaker 1: swallowed up by their own myth once again and playing
Speaker 1: tight as a drum and the Packers doing the opposite.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, right.
Speaker 2: Love on that first throw to Dobbs, which I think
Speaker 2: was for about twenty two yards where it was second
Speaker 2: and thirteen on that first drive, and he's back pedaling
Speaker 2: and he's about to get crunched by Odigga diggies do
Speaker 2: it and he just makes it look so easy. And
Speaker 2: there were about six or seven throws like that in
Speaker 2: this game. That just reminded me. When you go through
Speaker 2: this season and you think of the best performances by
Speaker 2: a quarterback in any game all season, Jordan Love is
Speaker 2: on the list for a lot of them. The game
Speaker 2: he had in primetime against Kansas City a couple weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe not as many people watched it, but
Speaker 2: it was Sunday night again against Minnesota, the win that
Speaker 2: they had against the Lions. He is one of the
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the league. And I don't think enough
Speaker 2: people have watched them enough to realize that, but it's
Speaker 2: just true. There isn't a quarterback playing better in terms
Speaker 2: of decision making, and Lafleur is setting him up. And
Speaker 2: Dallas tried to go against type, and they talked about
Speaker 2: this on the broadcast to it and play a lot
Speaker 2: more zone than what they like to do with Man,
Speaker 2: but it didn't make a difference. Like Dobbs was talented
Speaker 2: enough to go six for one point fifty one in one,
Speaker 2: but you always had a feeling like Love would find
Speaker 2: someone else if he needed to. This was a day
Speaker 2: like Jayden Reid didn't even have a catch this game.
Speaker 2: They have so many young guys coming out of their
Speaker 2: wazoo here, but he always is making good decisions on
Speaker 2: top of like being just so physically here it only
Speaker 2: had five incompletions.
Speaker 3: There was an incredible second half catched by Romeo Dobbs
Speaker 3: on a precise broken play throw by Jordan Love.
Speaker 7: It's like he just was dialed in from wire to wire.
Speaker 1: Here is Lafleur, the aforementioned Laflow who had a wonderful
Speaker 1: game himself on Jordan Love. Oh, Jordan Love. Wow. That
Speaker 1: was That's about all I can say. Bete is wow.
Speaker 1: And Mark he has he's got another quarterback and yep,
Speaker 1: and dating back to nineteen ninety two to present and
Speaker 1: now for the in the beyond. Now the Packers feel
Speaker 1: set up with a potential, not just a star. This
Speaker 1: guy's playing like a superstar. And what makes the Packers
Speaker 1: fascinating is that he's not alone. It's just not him.
Speaker 1: This is a team that's coming together. Even the defense
Speaker 1: showed up in this game. Never mind the lipstick on
Speaker 1: the pig in the fourth quarterback Dallas's offense.
Speaker 3: Right like the much maligned Joe Berry defense, which caused
Speaker 3: multiple turnovers in the first half, and the final score
Speaker 3: is not indicative. I thought they did a nice job
Speaker 3: on Ceedie Lamb. He was double. You saw them trippled
Speaker 3: at certain points and like that. I always thought that
Speaker 3: the key for Dallas to get off to a fast
Speaker 3: start was have Ceedee Lamb dominate this game, and he
Speaker 3: really was not a factor until garbage time and a
Speaker 3: bunch of junk happen late like these the thirty two
Speaker 3: points stalls put up. Most of it happened in a zero,
Speaker 3: non factor like kind of late flurry. Like the Joe
Speaker 3: Berry defense which looked good against Minnesota, it looked good
Speaker 3: against Chicago. I know those aren't premier offenses, but it did.
Speaker 3: It did its job today and made Dak Prescott in
Speaker 3: the in the crew very unset.
Speaker 1: And ask a question, how much do you how And
Speaker 1: this is not to take away from Barry or what
Speaker 1: Green Bay did today, but how much can you say
Speaker 1: is the Packers in their scheme and their players, and
Speaker 1: how much, honestly, Greg, do you have to like be
Speaker 1: honest and say the Cowboys choked in this game. Yes,
Speaker 1: they gagged, and they played at a far lesser level
Speaker 1: than we saw for the entire season, and you get
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be obviously be blown up in what
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about a Monday morning and beyond. But sometimes
Speaker 1: a narrative is a narrative because it's true. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys seemed to choke in January.
Speaker 2: Yes, they after falling down early and then the first
Speaker 2: Dak interception, which that Dak said after the game he
Speaker 2: played poorly, that he played a terribly and I sucked,
Speaker 2: which is wild because he threw for four hundred yards
Speaker 2: in the end in the seven first times, but he
Speaker 2: knew that the important part of the game was the
Speaker 2: first half. That was kind of a lazy route by
Speaker 2: Cooks and Alexander makes a nice break on the ball,
Speaker 2: but at that point the Cowboys had already punted, and
Speaker 2: then they punt the following drive to they set up
Speaker 2: the Packers for a short score there like one play
Speaker 2: later or a couple of plays later, Aaron Jones just
Speaker 2: running through their defense for another score. So everyone choked.
Speaker 2: But Ceedee Lambs dropping passes Dak slant to CD, which
Speaker 2: is usually so money. They're they're off, and my guy
Speaker 2: Jay R Alexander, who you talked about on the Dreamatorium
Speaker 2: this week, even though he got hurt halfway through the game,
Speaker 2: he comes up with the big interception, not the pick six,
Speaker 2: but the early interception, and he was out there. I
Speaker 2: know they didn't send him out for the coin toss.
Speaker 2: Oh they should have, but he was out there, he
Speaker 2: was suiting.
Speaker 1: Well, they're not in Charlotte injuries. Is a pup ponder.
Speaker 1: It was little for it was lit honestly like it
Speaker 1: was no better.
Speaker 8: Feeling like there's a few quarterbacks who are thrown me
Speaker 8: multiple picks in my career and Jack is now one
Speaker 8: of them.
Speaker 6: So he's along with my top qbs.
Speaker 1: I feel like JayR, Alexander and my eldest son Jack
Speaker 1: would be like good buddies if they hung out. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak is now on Jaire's list, and Dak is going
Speaker 1: to This is going to be one of those losses
Speaker 1: where it will continue to stick to the ribs of
Speaker 1: everyone associated with the Dallas Cowboys. And you wonder if
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, the head coach, as an example, will even
Speaker 1: have a job after this. You wonder if Dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: who seemed to be a shoe in to get a
Speaker 1: job elsewhere the DC the highest paid DC in the league.
Speaker 1: After giving up a near fifty burger in this spot,
Speaker 1: does that cause teams like say the Seahawks to walk away?
Speaker 1: Here's Jarah who you know, no shortage? And I tweeted this,
Speaker 1: I would pay seven ninety nine a month if you
Speaker 1: can give me a Jarah box, Like it's just a shot,
Speaker 1: one shot on Jerah's luxury suite for the entirety of
Speaker 1: a playoff.
Speaker 6: Hit that on Peacock.
Speaker 1: Put it on Peacock. Absolutely worth it. And make sure
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put it on cocka the picture is
Speaker 1: clear the whole time. Just just something unsolicited advice. Here
Speaker 1: is Jerry immediately after the game talking to the media
Speaker 1: about what's next and how this was a loss almost
Speaker 1: like no other for him. It seems like the.
Speaker 9: Most painful because we all had such great expectation and
Speaker 9: we had hope for this team, and I thought that
Speaker 9: we were aligned in a great shape, in a great shape,
Speaker 9: but it didn't happen for us. And it's just fresh
Speaker 9: show on me right now as it is or anybody else.
Speaker 9: But I don't I won't to get into any of
Speaker 9: the addressing of any aspects.
Speaker 1: Of any part of it.
Speaker 9: From the coaching to the players once around the corner,
Speaker 9: but a personal basis, how I'm full for dam so.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: They're an experience exclusive to themselves in all of American sports,
Speaker 3: and it feels like it's an annual meeting with Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones discussing the disappointment that ends it all in January.
Speaker 3: It's three years in a row, and as you know,
Speaker 3: as problematic as the past two exits for Dallas were disorganized, discombobulated,
Speaker 3: final minute defeats under the watch of Mike McCarthy, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is a bigger disaster because I you know, how
Speaker 3: many times will we be fooled? I was even saying
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, this Cowboys team feels different
Speaker 3: to me, and the ending is completely not different.
Speaker 1: It's the same.
Speaker 3: And it's like because it's the Cowboys, because it's Dak Prescott,
Speaker 3: because it's Jerry Jones. I think that Mike McCarthy obviously
Speaker 3: is on a hotter seat than you could ever have imagined.
Speaker 2: There's no chance of coming no, I think what you
Speaker 2: can do about it, because he's like a good coach
Speaker 2: and deserves respect. But the way they talked about all
Speaker 2: year that his future is going to be determined based
Speaker 2: on how this year finished.
Speaker 1: This said it, this knows.
Speaker 3: All that mattered right this game, And I like, I,
Speaker 3: you know, I brought it up as a hypothetical on
Speaker 3: Thursday Show that you know, you have someone like Bill
Speaker 3: Belichick sitting out there, and I just wonder if you're
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, who already has a wandering eye in the
Speaker 3: pass for someone like Sean Payton, does everything turn and
Speaker 3: change in a way where someone like Belichick winds up
Speaker 3: with Els.
Speaker 7: We'll see, But Mike McCarthy's future couldn't be shaking.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is turning eighty two this year and this
Speaker 1: he just said it like this is a loss that
Speaker 1: really hurts. And they were certain this team was different.
Speaker 1: We were we visited this team back in July. You
Speaker 1: could just see the optimism just pouring out from every
Speaker 1: corner of the facility there. So for this to have
Speaker 1: the same ending after the third straight twelve win season, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Greg, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Bill and I don't know, But I also
Speaker 1: think Jerry Jones at this point he might come to
Speaker 1: a place where, yeah, not only do I have to
Speaker 1: get this guy out of here, I need to make
Speaker 1: a big splash because I'm running out of time quite frankly.
Speaker 6: Right, he said he was stunned.
Speaker 2: I read Calvin watchword is one of the best Cowboys
Speaker 2: reporters out there, and he said the people that have
Speaker 2: covered this team at least for ten plus years didn't
Speaker 2: see this coming, not at all. And I do think
Speaker 2: that is there is something about them being Charlie Brown
Speaker 2: and Lucy pulling the football away. That's like, I think
Speaker 2: part of the reason they never see it coming is
Speaker 2: because they think that it couldn't be coming.
Speaker 6: It can always be coming.
Speaker 2: Like they sort of get in their own little cycle
Speaker 2: of like we're believing the hype and like, of course
Speaker 2: you could get blown out by a good young team
Speaker 2: that's coming if you're not on it. Like nothing that
Speaker 2: happened about this season and how they set it up
Speaker 2: is gonna make any difference when you get out there
Speaker 2: today and when you fall down in the game. They
Speaker 2: kind of just showed who they were, which is in
Speaker 2: a spot I think it's tough. When you got the
Speaker 2: home crowd there, you feel that that tension. They are
Speaker 2: the first team in his Dan. It's so weird with
Speaker 2: McCarthy to win twelve straight game, to win twelve games
Speaker 2: in three straight years, but not make the conference championship
Speaker 2: in that ground. So he's been incredibly uniquely successful. And
Speaker 2: then for it to happen against the Packers, who you know,
Speaker 2: beat him in the Descota game, beat him when in
Speaker 2: Dax's rookie year when they were the one seed and
Speaker 2: have now won ten of eleven games against the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: makes it like doubly painful.
Speaker 6: It's like, what do you do this?
Speaker 2: This Packers team is going to be around for like
Speaker 2: all these teams are going to be around for one.
Speaker 1: And I know the the the highly educated membership of
Speaker 1: the Football Gogna Zent, they is going to say this
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. But I really do think and the ghosts
Speaker 1: have become a thing around the Cowboys, and I think
Speaker 1: it seeps in under the doors and in through the
Speaker 1: windows and down the chimney at the Star and it's
Speaker 1: become this added layer of pressure. Now like when is
Speaker 1: when are things going to be different this year? And
Speaker 1: I think the team takes it, takes it with him.
Speaker 1: I think you really saw a team from the jump
Speaker 1: pressing in this game, and when they had the wrong
Speaker 1: opponent here, the team that's on the opposite end of
Speaker 1: that spectrum, it was, it was a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I'm mad at myself because I felt it
Speaker 1: come up, but picked the Cowboys was too safe. But
Speaker 1: I don't find this overly surprising in retrospect, Like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were set up for the fall and they took one.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 3: That angst like starts with Jerry Jones because he speaks
Speaker 3: about the team and the experience of losing in a
Speaker 3: way that not other owners would would be as personally
Speaker 3: like open about the thing.
Speaker 1: I like that about Joe.
Speaker 3: I like it too, But I mean I think that
Speaker 3: that's where the weight begins. But I do think it's
Speaker 3: a surprising loss in the sense that you know, I
Speaker 3: got absolutely surprised home and away splits. Maybe maybe they don't,
Speaker 3: they don't mean much, but like Dallas at home was
Speaker 3: its most dominant version of itself. I mean, it's like
Speaker 3: destroyed teams and so for this to have and it's
Speaker 3: completely atypical to anything else that we saw happening in
Speaker 3: Dallas to this Cowboys team, let.
Speaker 1: Me rephrase it. It is surprising, but maybe we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been surprised, and like retrospect, like sure, maybe the
Speaker 1: clues were there all along.
Speaker 2: Well, the clue, the number one clue is they were
Speaker 2: playing one of the best quarterbacks in the league who
Speaker 2: was playing playing free and could create in a way
Speaker 2: that Dak, who I'm always defending but hasn't in a
Speaker 2: big spot. And I do feel like he held the
Speaker 2: ball a little too long. He wasn't seeing the field tonight.
Speaker 2: He's gripping the ball a little too tight in the
Speaker 2: first half, and Love is out there making something out
Speaker 2: of nothing in a way that Dak just just wasn't.
Speaker 2: But man, I still go back to the defense. Is
Speaker 2: supposed to be a defensive team. Zach Tom who's led
Speaker 2: the league by the way, doesn't get a lot of
Speaker 2: pub but according to extent stats in pressure percentage in
Speaker 2: terms of preventing pressure as a right tackle this year,
Speaker 2: they're really well coached. A young offensive line for the
Speaker 2: most part, who played great, didn't give up a single
Speaker 2: pressure in nine pass us against Parsons. In Parsons I
Speaker 2: think only had one or two total, and he got
Speaker 2: it elsewhere. So it's just like everyone was in their
Speaker 2: head and they lost. DA's got like a contract situation,
Speaker 2: which is sneaky interesting. Not that I think he would
Speaker 2: go anywhere, but this is kind of the season where
Speaker 2: they have to give him a new contract because his
Speaker 2: cap figure is so it is so big, so everything
Speaker 2: I feel like it is going to be on the table,
Speaker 2: and it's hard to sell Dan Quinn as the guy
Speaker 2: who would succeed Mike McCarthy and Packers fans will be
Speaker 2: talking about you all week.
Speaker 6: Then oh yeah, you can.
Speaker 1: Celebrate you are and oh the Cowboys weren't the only
Speaker 1: people having a rough Sunday. The Westling Brothers or I
Speaker 1: should say Nick continue their stumble and guess what, they
Speaker 1: no longer occupy second place alone. Wow, But that way
Speaker 1: they locked up the Cowboys and that did not work out.
Speaker 2: Isn't this the guy used to get on me for,
Speaker 2: you know, taking like four or five point favorites.
Speaker 6: Here he would get on me for not being bold.
Speaker 2: Here he is taking a set desperate time seven and
Speaker 2: a half and then he'sake.
Speaker 1: Seven yeah half. See nobody saw it coming. Nobody saw it.
Speaker 1: They should have seen it coming. Because Jordan Love is
Speaker 1: a rising superstar and we'll give him the last word
Speaker 1: before we go to our next game. Because he got
Speaker 1: he you know, it's it's noteworthy that Dak, a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna get MVP votes, was clearly outplayed in his
Speaker 1: own building by the kid in his first full season
Speaker 1: as a starter. This is how he I think it
Speaker 1: was the final kneel down. Uh listen closely. You might
Speaker 1: find it familiar Cowboys fans for them to come into
Speaker 1: the house here in Dallas that no one's been able
Speaker 1: to win in almost two years. I don't fu man,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. The Green Bay team, it wasn't quite
Speaker 1: here we go, but it wasn't here we go. Packer.
Speaker 1: You don't like that? Mark? What you don't like that?
Speaker 7: Problem with that?
Speaker 6: Okay, Packers, why do you think?
Speaker 1: I know you kind of.
Speaker 3: I was like, I think, if you're gonna mimic him, like,
Speaker 3: let you go a little bit more.
Speaker 6: I think he did.
Speaker 2: He threaded the needle there where he had fun with it,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't being like a dick to Dak personally.
Speaker 2: So I think that's what he probably didn't want to
Speaker 2: like mimic him.
Speaker 1: Imagine Jamis Winston had that opportunity. I know it's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine him a final kneel down to win a
Speaker 1: playoff game. But imagine he would have put it would
Speaker 1: have won.
Speaker 7: An oscar for I think he would have pulled it
Speaker 7: off in a different way.
Speaker 2: Packers Niners. Is the Saturday game next year? Oh, that
Speaker 2: is a delicious Division Round game. Is giving me a
Speaker 2: flashbacks that Colin Kaepernick back in the day against the Niners.
Speaker 6: I believe in this same round.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't need to tell you football fans, Divisional
Speaker 1: Round weekend is the best of the year. But we're
Speaker 1: not through Wildcard round yet. Uh, let's go to the
Speaker 1: other game on Sunday. It was the only game that
Speaker 1: was decided by less than a touchdown, this one just
Speaker 1: one point. It was going off at Ford Field on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Here we go. Golf works out of the gun.
Speaker 6: Second down to nine, two minutes to go.
Speaker 1: There's golf back looking looking throws.
Speaker 5: It is caught Harvid ross Day Crown first sucking to
Speaker 5: do it?
Speaker 1: Can it do it not? Can it do it?
Speaker 6: Turn up delivers against this former team.
Speaker 1: Now all they have to do is takeing me three
Speaker 1: times hit. This game will be over. Ah for the
Speaker 1: second time since nineteen fifty seven, for the first time
Speaker 1: since January fifth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Detroit Lions are gonna win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan Miller with the call you of course you
Speaker 1: bring the bungos. Oh, it's playoff season for em rats
Speaker 1: behind the glass two. Dan Miller, the voice of the Lions,
Speaker 1: who's been through the bad times. Like the Lions fans,
Speaker 1: he was there. He was on the mic for Owen sixteen.
Speaker 1: And all those Lions fans that waited three decades to
Speaker 1: see their team simply play a home game in the postseason,
Speaker 1: Well they got rewarded with a twenty four to twenty
Speaker 1: three win over a obviously extremely game Rams team that
Speaker 1: came within a bailed stop on third down there of
Speaker 1: getting the ball back with a chance to steal the game.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That ends a nine game postseason
Speaker 1: losing streak for the Lions, Mark Sessler. That was the
Speaker 1: longest in NFL history, dates back to January ninety two.
Speaker 1: And now they will get two home playoff games, so
Speaker 1: the first time in franchise history, posting either Tampa or
Speaker 1: Philly in the Divisional round next Sunday. What a joy
Speaker 1: it was to watch that game in that building.
Speaker 3: You had like Lions fans, and they cut to an
Speaker 3: eighty nine year old Lions fan, a very famous guy
Speaker 3: who's been going there for sixty years, that we're literally
Speaker 3: just shedding tears. And I sometimes it's hard to gauge
Speaker 3: the sound in the stadium depending on how the mics
Speaker 3: are set up on some of these stations, and it's
Speaker 3: like this place was on fire, and I found myself.
Speaker 3: I think the Rams have had an incredible season and
Speaker 3: there's a valiant side to them, but I found myself
Speaker 3: just rooting for Detroit and the way that they came
Speaker 3: out of this game with three straight seventy five years
Speaker 3: touchdown marches. I mean, Greg, I think we were all
Speaker 3: watching this the other league. My takeaway is that both
Speaker 3: quarterbacks were absolutely pristine for so much of this and
Speaker 3: at one point I thought Matthew Stafford literally had the
Speaker 3: life knocked out of him, and then five minutes later
Speaker 3: he's back in the game, but instead of one of
Speaker 3: them completely collapsing, I love how this game wound up
Speaker 3: because Jared Goff against his old coach, completely got the
Speaker 3: job done. And the play that I'll remember is just
Speaker 3: outside of the two minute warning. It's second to nine
Speaker 3: at the Detroit thirty two. The Lions need to get
Speaker 3: a first down to basically just solve the game away.
Speaker 3: And Dan Campbell. The stamp that Dan Campbell has put
Speaker 3: on this team from wire to wire is that he
Speaker 3: goes absolutely nuts through the air. Eleven yard completion Aman
Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brown. It's like they don't just try to
Speaker 3: go conservative. They do what the Lions do. It paid
Speaker 3: off and they executed the rams in the final minute.
Speaker 1: That's how they won the game. Greg that was a
Speaker 1: chance and a lot of teams run the ball, take
Speaker 1: it to the two minute warning, punt it away and
Speaker 1: then ask your defense to make the stop. But Campbell
Speaker 1: is shown all throughout his tenure he puts the faith
Speaker 1: in the guys that he trusts the most.
Speaker 2: It was such a fitting ending for last year's team
Speaker 2: of atl I mean, this was what we loved about
Speaker 2: this team, and then they struggled a little bit and
Speaker 2: then they had it.
Speaker 6: It was right there.
Speaker 2: You're right in those final minutes because number one, it
Speaker 2: takes balls to throw the pass there, but number two,
Speaker 2: it takes intelligence to do it on the second down.
Speaker 2: Don't wait for the third down when they're possibly knowing
Speaker 2: that you're gonna have a higher likelihood to pass in
Speaker 2: that situation. And they can run some games up front,
Speaker 2: or they can send the blitzer, whatever they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Trust a guy in Amano, Saint Brown, to run a
Speaker 2: route that he said after the game, you know they've
Speaker 2: been running this for years. This is kind of their
Speaker 2: bread and butter plate. It's one on one like trust
Speaker 2: Jared Goff. Even though you saw a couple little moments
Speaker 2: in the second half where you wondered, like, is this
Speaker 2: gonna go sideways? Ultimately they only scored three points on
Speaker 2: three possessions in the second half before that, Like a
Speaker 2: lot of Rams games this year, there were not many
Speaker 2: possessions here. They tend to give up a lot of
Speaker 2: long drives. They tend to have a lot of long drives,
Speaker 2: and that's what it was like. So every drive meant
Speaker 2: so much, and so you win it that way with
Speaker 2: sparts and balls. But same thing on the On the
Speaker 2: drive before third and four, Aiden Hutchinson, the dude that
Speaker 2: to me rarely represents this turnaround in such a big way,
Speaker 2: beats Rob Havenstein gets a holding call. It was the
Speaker 2: right call. On third and four, the Rams are in
Speaker 2: field goal range. We'll never know if Brett Maher would
Speaker 2: have hit that kick, what would it have been. I
Speaker 2: think it would have been about a fifty yard I know, Okay,
Speaker 2: what was it?
Speaker 1: No, I know he wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: Been You know that he wouldn't have hit it. It would
Speaker 2: have been a fifty one yarder. Or they could have
Speaker 2: gone for it on fourth and four. And that's the
Speaker 2: reason I think ultimately that Campbell said no, we're going
Speaker 2: to accept the penalty, because I thought that that was
Speaker 2: actually a very bold decision to push them back to
Speaker 2: third and fourteen because I think he's thinking, either they can.
Speaker 6: Kick the field goal or they go for fourth and fourth.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and trust my defense to go
Speaker 2: make another play. And who wins again on the next
Speaker 2: play the guy they took second overall, Aiden Hutchinson. And
Speaker 2: I know Rams fans will be complaining about that miss
Speaker 2: pass interference for a long time. And they did miss it.
Speaker 2: It was a bad miss call. It was a type
Speaker 2: of bad miss call though that happens right.
Speaker 1: And aids fans will tell Rams West, but a missed
Speaker 1: call in the.
Speaker 2: Price, It was kind of like a subtle play by
Speaker 2: Camsutt and I think where like, I'm not gonna go crazy.
Speaker 6: They missed the call.
Speaker 2: But part of the reason that happened is because Kaminski
Speaker 2: and Aiden Hutchinson both won quickly and forced the difficult situation.
Speaker 2: And so like, that's big time players season on the line,
Speaker 2: stepping up in a big time moment, Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the sound inside Ford Field, and that
Speaker 1: was the first playoff game in the history of that building,
Speaker 1: which has not been around, you know, it's been around
Speaker 1: for a minute now. La. They were down to one
Speaker 1: time out in the second half of the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and two of those time out they're Burningham in large
Speaker 1: part because of the crowd noise, and they're just dealing
Speaker 1: with the elements as they are and it's just like
Speaker 1: you could actually and that's why one of the many
Speaker 1: reasons why playoff football is amazing like that, I think
Speaker 1: the fans in the atmosphere there absolutely played a role
Speaker 1: in the lines advancing in the playoffs. And this is
Speaker 1: a game that they are chanting Jared Goff's name an
Speaker 1: hour before the game, and this is showering Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: the prodigal son with booze when he's on the field
Speaker 1: and we have sound here from Dan Campbell on Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: who is one of the most interesting kind of journeys
Speaker 1: of any player of his generation. As he goes to
Speaker 1: the next round of the playoffs after slaying the team
Speaker 1: that dumped him as a salary dump to get a
Speaker 1: trade done to get the Stafford to Los Angeles. Here
Speaker 1: is Campbell on his quarterback.
Speaker 4: Just really proud of him, you know, and what he
Speaker 4: means to us and his play today, and I bring
Speaker 4: it back again. He's one of the reasons that we
Speaker 4: won this division and he's another reason why we just
Speaker 4: won our first playoff game here in thirty years.
Speaker 1: So what a stud I want more Campbell, give me
Speaker 1: Campbell on the line's getting another home game. I know this.
Speaker 4: We were fighting for the two seed and we get
Speaker 4: to get another home game, and we got another home game,
Speaker 4: So it's awesome and we had to earn that, and
Speaker 4: we earned that with a win today.
Speaker 1: They sure did. And by the way, all the drama
Speaker 1: around that two point conversion that I wiped out against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's all gone because the Cowboys got their
Speaker 1: ass booted out of the postseason. So the lines now
Speaker 1: move up to the highest seed besides obviously the Niners,
Speaker 1: which means they get this second home.
Speaker 3: Game, and that feels that just feels just and it's
Speaker 3: I think for all of us because that was a
Speaker 3: the low moment and it's like, we don't want the
Speaker 3: officials being the center of all this. I just it's
Speaker 3: like the Jared Goff experience because Brad Holmes, who obviously
Speaker 3: came from the belly of the Rams to become the
Speaker 3: general manager of the Lions, like showed incredible faith in Goff,
Speaker 3: like threw a lot of ups and downs here and
Speaker 3: also is the architect of a team that is like
Speaker 3: littered with future stars and young players. To see like
Speaker 3: a guy like Sam Laporta do what he's done all
Speaker 3: season the way he came back from injury to do tonight.
Speaker 7: Goff opens fourteen for fifteen.
Speaker 3: It's nearly pristine in the first half, and it almost
Speaker 3: overshadows the fact that Matthew Stafford and we were watching
Speaker 3: this the other like through three or four of the
Speaker 3: most incredible passes you'll see, but Golf did too.
Speaker 7: Gough made very few mistakes.
Speaker 3: I go back to one incredible looping arching throw to
Speaker 3: Amorran Saint Brown with the team up twenty one to seventeen.
Speaker 7: It's like golf can do it.
Speaker 3: And he's grown a lot before our eyes, and I
Speaker 3: think he's become a different kind of person. And I
Speaker 3: think it's just a great NFL story to have the
Speaker 3: team put faith into him.
Speaker 7: He's not just a placeholder.
Speaker 3: And he came tonight and delivered and played one of
Speaker 3: his best performances of all time.
Speaker 6: I mean, he played great.
Speaker 2: And there is something about Dan Miller saying second time
Speaker 2: since nineteen fifty seven that actually hits harder than the
Speaker 2: first playoff wins since ninety one. Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: was like seven years before, like the Civil Rights Act
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven, and it's only either the second playoff
Speaker 2: victory that is absolutely preposterous.
Speaker 6: And you're right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can win the game in the first half
Speaker 2: like that. And they won it by winning in the
Speaker 2: red zone, even though they did not run the ball
Speaker 2: well tonight. I was impressed by the Rams defense pretty
Speaker 2: much stuffing the Lions run. After the first drive or two,
Speaker 2: the Lions go three for three in the red zone.
Speaker 2: The Rams go zero for three in the red zone.
Speaker 2: M they got a little pass happy in the red zone,
Speaker 2: went away from the run. They were good red zone
Speaker 2: team for most of the year, so it wasn't like
Speaker 2: a recurring problem that they kept going to Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2: Cup had nine targets in this game. He had twenty
Speaker 2: seven yards. Kuka Nakua had one more target. Ten targets,
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty one yards, the most by a
Speaker 2: rookie in the history of the NFL in a playoff game,
Speaker 2: and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And here's next gen stats. Greg yeh fifty nine receiving
Speaker 1: yards after contact, the fourth most in any game this season.
Speaker 2: He was a fifth round pick that came into the league.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can argue this this year was
Speaker 2: unquestionably a top five receiver in the league. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't just like scheme got gets him open or anything.
Speaker 2: You watched it tonight, he wasn't even that open half
Speaker 2: the time. He's just running over guys and making contested catches.
Speaker 2: And as great as Golf was, if I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: Golf an a minus for this game, maybe like a
Speaker 2: ninety two, it's like I would give Stafford one hundred.
Speaker 6: He played incredible and I do I mean.
Speaker 1: I he went over three in the red zone, so
Speaker 1: you gotta ding the quarterback a little bit there, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from because he did
Speaker 1: play incredibly well.
Speaker 2: Some of those like the third and nineteen early where
Speaker 2: he throws it across his body to keep that drive
Speaker 2: alive when they were down fourteen three. You just had
Speaker 2: so many throws that other quarterbacks couldn't make, and he
Speaker 2: was just getting absolutely brutal as he finishes with three
Speaker 2: sixty seven and two. They finished with almost one hundred
Speaker 2: yards more than the Lions. They were moving the ball.
Speaker 2: They looked like they were going to win this game.
Speaker 2: In the second half, the Lions had two straight drives
Speaker 2: where they didn't do anything and the Rams really were
Speaker 2: moving the ball. And that's to me why the McVeigh
Speaker 2: time management stuff hurts a little extra.
Speaker 6: Mcvay's obviously a great coach, but this was.
Speaker 2: Literally by the subject of my like thing on Thursday
Speaker 2: in the Dreamatorium, is these coaches blowing timeouts to use
Speaker 2: delay of games. And we've been talking about it on
Speaker 2: this podcast for four or five years that McVeigh always
Speaker 2: is blowing these timeouts at the beginning. So it was that,
Speaker 2: and it was the slightly conservative field goal decisions where
Speaker 2: at the time, I personally didn't have a problem with them,
Speaker 2: and they hit them all for what it's worth, Like
Speaker 2: the ESPN analytics all had them as like slight go
Speaker 2: for its, like even though it was fourth and six,
Speaker 2: fourth and seven, that the way this game was turning out, like,
Speaker 2: he ended up trusting that they were going to get
Speaker 2: those points in the end if they didn't get it,
Speaker 2: but the timeouts to be hurt.
Speaker 1: The finished one more drive and mar somehow splits the
Speaker 1: uprights one more time. They win twenty six, twenty four,
Speaker 1: and it all makes sense. But yeah, it would you
Speaker 1: lose by a point that it looks much better.
Speaker 2: The Lions, for instance, did hit a fourth down in
Speaker 2: the red zone for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That's what they do.
Speaker 6: Fight White play well.
Speaker 3: I think that's the distinct different nature of these two coaches,
Speaker 3: and you kind of have to live with that with
Speaker 3: McVeigh for all the positive two But yeah, drives ending
Speaker 3: at the six, the nine, and eleven.
Speaker 1: Poka Nakua, one more thing about him? Where's Walker Rosenthal
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm sure he's he's upset. The Rosenthal
Speaker 1: houses upset. The Rams are out of the playoffs. However,
Speaker 1: it was a good year for the Rams. They're ahead
Speaker 1: of schedule. Pooka. It's crazy watching this game because it's
Speaker 1: so how clear it is that Pooka is their number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver and it's Cup that's their number two.
Speaker 1: After a couple of years of injury. H and Sean McVay,
Speaker 1: a guy that almost walked away last year, came out
Speaker 1: of this season even after a tough loss, reflective and
Speaker 1: positive about where he's at.
Speaker 9: And you know, the finality of it is still kind
Speaker 9: of it doesn't totally resonate, But man, did I learn
Speaker 9: a lot and really appreciate this group.
Speaker 1: You know, they.
Speaker 9: They helped me find my way again, and how much
Speaker 9: I love this and love the people that I'm around.
Speaker 1: I was texting with Jordan Rodrig of the of the Athletic,
Speaker 1: of the rod Rig that's next He's going to buy
Speaker 1: out the Athletic from the New York Times, just worrying
Speaker 1: or wondering when the Rams special teams gaff will come
Speaker 1: that will destroy their season. It made me think of
Speaker 1: the Crispin Glover character from Hot Tub Time Machine when
Speaker 1: you know that he loses his arm and then the
Speaker 1: whole movie is like when is when does it happen
Speaker 1: when does he lose the arm and you see all
Speaker 1: these near misses where he almost loses the arm and
Speaker 1: Bretta Mahers kicks like the shadow going across the upright
Speaker 1: over and over again. Maybe think about that so at
Speaker 1: least it wasn't some heartbreaking defeat in that measure, because
Speaker 1: I thought that's what was how the Rams.
Speaker 6: Punt, I forget who were the punt was struggled.
Speaker 1: That's like when the Glover's character threw the chainsawp in
Speaker 1: the air when he was doing the ice sculpture. Like
Speaker 1: there there were so many moments that the Rams, uh,
Speaker 1: it almost happened. But this this is really ultimately mark
Speaker 1: about the Lions in a special day for them, and
Speaker 1: they they their journey continues.
Speaker 3: No, it would have been like, uh a letdown for
Speaker 3: them after all of this to not pull out this win.
Speaker 3: And I do think like for the critique of McVeigh
Speaker 3: and I hear you're saying Greg like in general, like
Speaker 3: coaching is is better than ever and like the McVeigh
Speaker 3: journey in this two matters to me because.
Speaker 1: That depends what team you're talking about.
Speaker 3: By going, well, no, I'm saying like, if you're a
Speaker 3: Rams fan like this season.
Speaker 6: One of the best coaches in the league.
Speaker 3: You do want to get you do, and like I
Speaker 3: think I think he's revived, and I think this this
Speaker 3: brought him like a some you know, a whole new
Speaker 3: like breadth of fresh air, and like this was a
Speaker 3: five months ago where talking about the fact that Matthew
Speaker 3: Stafford probably or likely could be traded before the deadline,
Speaker 3: and we got the best Matthew Stafford season. So the Rams, like,
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of hope ahead because of
Speaker 3: the way they're rebuilding their team too.
Speaker 6: I think that's true.
Speaker 2: And before we go, like and maybe this is the
Speaker 2: the fan in me, I was definitely rooting for the
Speaker 2: Rams going one, and now the Lions are the team
Speaker 2: I want to win the Super Bowl the most. But
Speaker 2: I do know we've been in this spot after playoff
Speaker 2: losses and said that so many different times, and I
Speaker 2: think this one hurts cut for either team. Was such
Speaker 2: an opportunity. The lines are either going to get the
Speaker 2: Eagles or the Bucks. The Rams would have played the
Speaker 2: Eagles or the Bucks. Matthew Stafford to me is playing
Speaker 2: at an MVP level. You know, Lamar will win it.
Speaker 2: I don't think and I just don't think anyone's playing
Speaker 2: any better than Matthew Stafford. Aaron Donald is towards the
Speaker 2: end of his career. You have these things going right now.
Speaker 2: They had a really good opportunity to keep this thing going,
Speaker 2: maybe to the NFC Championship. Who knows if it ends there,
Speaker 2: And you just don't know if you're going to have
Speaker 2: a healthy Stafford playing at that level at this point
Speaker 2: in the season. Again, hope you hope so because to me,
Speaker 2: he had a ton of entertainment this year.
Speaker 6: They were one of the most fun teams to watch.
Speaker 1: Oh, Greggy, this.
Speaker 2: Was a heat check, Greg, And like Peyton Pritchard when
Speaker 2: he just like pulls up from thirty after he's hit
Speaker 2: like four street threes.
Speaker 6: I did miss this one.
Speaker 1: You almost got it in this year of years, Greg,
Speaker 1: I bet you were thinking the whole time, it's gonna
Speaker 1: come out. Rosenthal.
Speaker 2: In the end, I thought that I really was convinced
Speaker 2: the Rams were going to win this game.
Speaker 6: Throughout I was. I was surprising how that thing ended.
Speaker 1: All right. And lastly, before we take a break, two
Speaker 1: telecast notes. Loved Tariko and he lives in ann Arbor.
Speaker 1: He's a Michigan guy. He was juiced for this game.
Speaker 1: I like seeing that. I like emotion and people like
Speaker 1: being real to them, true to themselves. He wasn't come
Speaker 1: out coming out right and saying it until Collins were
Speaker 1: teat them up at the end of the telecast that
Speaker 1: he's from the area. But he had a line at
Speaker 1: the end, if you want to text the Lions fan
Speaker 1: congrats on the playoff win, do it. It will be
Speaker 1: the first they've ever gotten. Texting wasn't around the last
Speaker 1: time the Lions won a playoff game. Got him and
Speaker 1: and the other telecast note would be when they're showing
Speaker 1: Detroit Luminaries. It was like there was a shot like
Speaker 1: Eminem Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, Big Sean. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: we don't need to give Big Sean any cry on
Speaker 1: Big Sean. A little too much pop for Big Sean
Speaker 1: great be fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't land with the same gund It's
Speaker 2: like those other three.
Speaker 1: It's like having a mount Rushmore and then putting Gerald
Speaker 1: Ford is the fourth guy.
Speaker 2: We don't need it, Big Sean taking strays at a
Speaker 2: big spot.
Speaker 1: Gerald Ford too. All right, let's take a break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back.
Speaker 5: Block out of the gun one back after motion, it's
Speaker 5: hunt flock, go to throw flock.
Speaker 6: Oh, hitch pickcock. Oh, here we going to the left.
Speaker 1: Twenty five twenty tix.
Speaker 10: Seat ten to five touchdown Christian Harris. That's the second one,
Speaker 10: the second pick six of the game.
Speaker 1: That's why they pay that guy. Welcome to Houston, Joe Flacco. Oh.
Speaker 10: The Texans team pouring it on in the third quarter
Speaker 10: with two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Sus Dogs, we have a new Sension power Aid flavor
Speaker 1: down in Houston.
Speaker 7: I think it's very possible.
Speaker 6: Mark's face when he said, welcome to Houston, Joe Flagger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, im porton some salt on the wound. I found
Speaker 1: it unnecessary from Andre Ware with his play by play
Speaker 1: man Mark Vandermere of Heilt. But you get their excitement
Speaker 1: because the Houston Texans absolutely dismantled the Cleveland Browns forty
Speaker 1: five to fourteen. The Texans route Cleveland, a game that
Speaker 1: started close, started looking like it was going to be
Speaker 1: a shootout, and then yes, mistakes by the Browns, the
Speaker 1: back to back pick sixes ended the game. But Mark,
Speaker 1: as you know, and I'm sure was not a pleasant
Speaker 1: watch as a Browns fan. It was the Cleveland defen
Speaker 1: having no answers for CJ. Stroud. That really was what
Speaker 1: this game was about.
Speaker 3: A complete disaster for Cleveland and an incredibly promising term
Speaker 3: of events for CJ. Stroud and the Texans who kind
Speaker 3: of feel like the AFC's packers to me right now,
Speaker 3: I think Cleveland, like everything over the past month plus
Speaker 3: in the Joe Flacco, you know, segment of this season
Speaker 3: that you could hang your hat on, just didn't show
Speaker 3: up in this game. I mean, Blackos turned the ball
Speaker 3: over a bunch, but it not to this degree in
Speaker 3: the sense that it cost them so hard because when
Speaker 3: that first pick six occurred, the Browns were still in this.
Speaker 7: It wasn't it didn't.
Speaker 3: Look good, but they were in it, and you know,
Speaker 3: you kind of thought, like in the past, Flaco was
Speaker 3: found a way productive, why production wise, to get out
Speaker 3: of it. But in this game, like the Amari Cooper
Speaker 3: that fried the Texans a couple of weeks ago, not
Speaker 3: happening this time. Miles Garrett was taken I thought, taken
Speaker 3: to town by Laramie Tunzel, who's one of the few
Speaker 3: tackles that's had success against Miles gear really really kept
Speaker 3: him out of the game almost from wire to wire,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, Cleveland just fell apart.
Speaker 7: And if you're gonna tell me in any of these
Speaker 7: games that.
Speaker 3: Your starting quarterback is gonna go throw back to back
Speaker 3: pick sixes, like on the road.
Speaker 7: You're not gonna win. And it's like, I don't know, Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Cleveland's defense at home has allowed the least amount of
Speaker 3: points per game, but quietly, this nugget that was sitting
Speaker 3: out there as a bit of a menace was that
Speaker 3: they've allowed the most points in the league on the road.
Speaker 3: And so there was some easy It's a very strange breakdown,
Speaker 3: but there was some concern going in about what which
Speaker 3: version of the Browns defense would show up in this
Speaker 3: and c J.
Speaker 7: Stroud is the story of the game. He was He
Speaker 7: was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Sixteen of twenty one, two seventy four, three touchdowns, thirteen
Speaker 1: yards per attempt, Greggie perfect passer rating. And it could
Speaker 1: have even been crazier because he missed like a sixty
Speaker 1: seventy yard bomb in the first half to who was that?
Speaker 1: Nico Collins otherwise have been even crazier. He was a
Speaker 1: complete command in this game.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: The pick sixes will stick on our memories and Obviously
Speaker 2: they were massive to happen back to back, especially that
Speaker 2: first one when it's only ten points. But that point
Speaker 2: of the game, I was thinking, man, the Browns are
Speaker 2: lucky to be down only ten. Their defense no showed
Speaker 2: much like the Cowboys game, like there will be like
Speaker 2: the quarterback for the Browns and the offense disappointed, no question,
Speaker 2: But I don't think that the defense gave the Browns
Speaker 2: a chance to win this game no matter what. And
Speaker 2: that's the side that you were counting on. Bobby Slowick
Speaker 2: got one over on Jim Schwartz. There was misdirection, there
Speaker 2: was big plays. They even had that big Singletary run
Speaker 2: early in the first half on a very creative play call.
Speaker 2: They were averaging nine point three yards per play. They
Speaker 2: were averaging almost a first down every time they snapped
Speaker 2: the ball the first three quarters.
Speaker 1: What come down Greg.
Speaker 2: Of this game? Like and you think back to like
Speaker 2: his very first throw of the game. Actually they had
Speaker 2: a dump off that first throw. But then the second
Speaker 2: throw of the game, they are getting right into Stroud's
Speaker 2: grill and he gets to twenty one yards like layering it,
Speaker 2: leading Nico Collins into very tricky zone coverage and he
Speaker 2: had four or five of those type of throws. The
Speaker 2: second pass actually of that drive that Schultz dropped, that
Speaker 2: was another missed opportunity. They actually had a first and
Speaker 2: goal from the two that they get nothing from. That
Speaker 2: was a missed opportunity. Like I kept thinking, Oh, they
Speaker 2: might get caught here because they're not taking advantage of us.
Speaker 2: He had like four or five of those really special CG.
Speaker 2: Stroud throws and he only had to throw the ball
Speaker 2: twenty one times. He had the almost the exact same
Speaker 2: box score as Jordan Love sixteen for twenty one, three
Speaker 2: touchdowns and just like five special throws. That like makes
Speaker 2: you think, Wow, this guy's already a top five or
Speaker 2: six quarterback.
Speaker 1: In the end, I mean, I'm glad you brought it up. Mark,
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's like the Spider Man meme. The Texans
Speaker 1: and the Packers to ten and seven teams that just
Speaker 1: knocked off a face. Obviously, there was a bigger upset
Speaker 1: in the NFC side of things, but the Browns are
Speaker 1: favored in this game, and they it's a team that's
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule with a first year quarterback in Houston's case,
Speaker 1: a straight up rookie, and it's like the team that
Speaker 1: you do not want to face now because they are
Speaker 1: again just like the Packers, there is no fear now
Speaker 1: because just making the playoffs was progress. So now that
Speaker 1: you've won a game, it's like it's starting to be
Speaker 1: like a freight train. And Greg, you could tell me,
Speaker 1: like what their playoff scenario looks like for next week
Speaker 1: if you have it on you and your calculations within
Speaker 1: your brain. But like and from the love to Stroud
Speaker 1: comparison to it's like these guys are young young men
Speaker 1: that the entire team is everything's being driven through them
Speaker 1: and their potential for true greatness. It's pretty amazing to watch.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 3: Also they're both well coached and like I'm glad you
Speaker 3: mentioned like Bobby Slog because earlier on in the year,
Speaker 3: one thing that it was noted that he did was they,
Speaker 3: you know, their offensive line was banged up, and he
Speaker 3: did a good job of like creating certain protections for
Speaker 3: Stroud And like against Cleveland's pretty ferocious pass rush, like
Speaker 3: they moved the pocket a lot, they found a way
Speaker 3: to nullify that pass rush. He was getting the ball
Speaker 3: out really quick and they were aggressively striking down field.
Speaker 3: I thought that One of the bigger surprises was Cleveland's
Speaker 3: defensive backs, who have been awesome. Yeah, completely, as you say,
Speaker 3: no showing in this game. I almost like did they
Speaker 3: were they overconfident and just came in thinking a little
Speaker 3: bit too much because they were fried early and they
Speaker 3: were fried through the entire contest.
Speaker 2: It was just like a couple missed assignments. And then
Speaker 2: the Brevin Jordan play where you know Ausa Cormoa, who
Speaker 2: was incredible otherwise, was like the best defensive player on
Speaker 2: the field for either team. I think he had four
Speaker 2: or five tackles for loss and was the one guy
Speaker 2: playing but him and another defender. They both kind of
Speaker 2: flash at Jordan at the same time and run into
Speaker 2: each other and Jordan ends up like running through for
Speaker 2: a seventy six year touchoupt. That was the moment where
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the Browns are really in trouble,
Speaker 2: because you look at this final score and you kind
Speaker 2: of forget. Oh, the Browns were leading in the second
Speaker 2: quarter fourteen to ten. They had answered both of Houston's
Speaker 2: scoring drives with touchdowns to take the lead, and then
Speaker 2: the Texans just go right back and they also had
Speaker 2: their share of long Rives too. I don't know what
Speaker 2: what the heck would happen to the Browns well defense,
Speaker 2: other than you kind of can't trust defenses. I've always
Speaker 2: believed it, and that was true of the Browns this
Speaker 2: year too. They would have a game here and there
Speaker 2: as historic as they were, like offense wins in this league,
Speaker 2: and there's some days where you're just gonna get fried.
Speaker 7: Almost all that came at home.
Speaker 1: Think about every defense that has been hoisted up at
Speaker 1: some point this season. They have had games where they
Speaker 1: weren't just bad, they were atrocious, And I just wonder
Speaker 1: what that's all about. I wonder I was thinking more
Speaker 1: like big picture, I was thinking about that is have
Speaker 1: anything to do with the almost unprecedented loss of starting
Speaker 1: quarterbacks across the league this year. Did some of these
Speaker 1: defenses get artificially plated? And then and then when the
Speaker 1: playoffs come, you know, certain things come home to roost.
Speaker 1: I just want to put it in perspective. Forty five
Speaker 1: to fourteen final, but on second and sixteen for Cleveland
Speaker 1: was seven or two to go in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Flaco hits David Bell, who I feel like David Bell's
Speaker 1: targeting maybe seven hundred times in this game for a
Speaker 1: sixteen yard for a first down. They are at first
Speaker 1: and ten at the Houston thirty four down by at
Speaker 1: this point, what was it? They were ten? I think
Speaker 1: ten set up to make it a one score game
Speaker 1: again when the Flacco pick six happened, so the game
Speaker 1: really did swing on that. Let's go to Demico Ryans
Speaker 1: talking about his young quarterback that has changed Houston.
Speaker 8: CJ is the reason why we're in this position. He's special,
Speaker 8: special young man. Special player continues to shine no matter
Speaker 8: how big the moment is. Like our whole team is
Speaker 8: leaning on him, and he has the shoulders to carry
Speaker 8: that weight and he shows up week at the week.
Speaker 8: He continues to improve week at the week. No moment
Speaker 8: is too big for him. And when you have a
Speaker 8: young player who can shlder a load of your team
Speaker 8: and the way the team is back behind him, the
Speaker 8: confidence that he gives our entire team, it's so cool
Speaker 8: to watch.
Speaker 1: And Mark, I want to also give the floor here
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco because even though this game went poorly
Speaker 1: and the pick sixes will be remembered, it was an
Speaker 1: incredible run for Flacco, who really electrified and ignited that
Speaker 1: entire fan base. Before the clock struck midnight, here's Flacco
Speaker 1: on the end.
Speaker 11: This is why we love football. This is why we
Speaker 11: love NFL playoffs. It's fourteen really good football teams and
Speaker 11: it's one game, and you know, unfortunately for us, but
Speaker 11: just fortunately, in just the general sense of everything, there's
Speaker 11: always a winner and a loser, and today, like I said,
Speaker 11: unfortunately for us, we were the loser. But that's what
Speaker 11: we love about this game. There's going to be a winner,
Speaker 11: there's going to be a loser, and you know, you
Speaker 11: have to learn how to deal with it when you're
Speaker 11: not the guy.
Speaker 1: Mark he's a free agent at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson is obviously still the future of this franchise.
Speaker 1: So based on his play, you imagine he's gonna search
Speaker 1: for somewherehere he can play next year, which means just
Speaker 1: like that, Flaco Browns seems like it's over. It's amazing
Speaker 1: how quickly just things change.
Speaker 6: It's uh.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have Deamar Hamlin sitting out there as
Speaker 3: the overt comeback player of the year, but I can't
Speaker 3: think of too many case studies where someone who's played
Speaker 3: a third of the season has an incredible case to
Speaker 3: be the comeback Player of the Year. The Browns aren't
Speaker 3: in this position without Joe Flacco doing what he did
Speaker 3: week after week. And really, I think I felt like
Speaker 3: I saw a different version of Joe Flacko with a
Speaker 3: person came back from this exodus completely.
Speaker 7: I feel at ease with himself.
Speaker 3: He brought leadership to a position in Cleveland that has
Speaker 3: not had strong leadership from the quarterback. They've had chaos.
Speaker 3: That makes the whole of Shaun Watson thing. It brought
Speaker 3: a nice feeling to Cleveland season. I don't really it
Speaker 3: ended the way it did almost easier that it ended
Speaker 3: forty five to fourteen. There wasn't a lot of what
Speaker 3: ifs the thing melted, But Joe Flacker was one of
Speaker 3: the better stories for Brent's fans about them.
Speaker 1: Mark what if it was the other way around? What
Speaker 1: if the brown forty five fourteen and then he plays
Speaker 1: well next week? Like what would Cleveland have done? In
Speaker 1: some ways it makes it more cut and dry, which
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean good things for the Browns because who
Speaker 1: knows what Watson holds in the future with this organization, right,
Speaker 1: but there's little question now where things go.
Speaker 6: And they had a fun run.
Speaker 2: I hate the I personally don't like the sports talk
Speaker 2: show attitude of like, well, if you don't win a title,
Speaker 2: it's like, what was the point of it? Is, Like,
Speaker 2: the point is you're having fun along the way. That
Speaker 2: that's what that's what life is. They had some fun
Speaker 2: along the way. You're not going to get a title.
Speaker 2: One team gets a title at.
Speaker 1: The ends where an organization is like when you're you
Speaker 1: keep on getting there and you can't get over there.
Speaker 1: I get it, but you can at least different.
Speaker 2: Though, right, And but even if you can enjoy, enjoy
Speaker 2: the process and enjoy the week, the winds that you
Speaker 2: get along the way, no matter what, team was a
Speaker 2: special team because it had those wins like the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers win, and it had the defense at times
Speaker 2: was so special and flaccoh it's a it's a thud
Speaker 2: of an ending, and unfortunately the opponent makes you think
Speaker 2: about the long term of it all. It's kind of
Speaker 2: crazy how little pop the Watson trade got in all this.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, by the way, you're beating us
Speaker 2: with like four or five draft picks that we just
Speaker 2: sent to you, and you've got a rookie quarterback, kind
Speaker 2: of rookie quarterback contract, and we've got the biggest albatross
Speaker 2: of a contract in NFL history. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: our draft pick just moved down about you know, five
Speaker 2: spots because you beat us and you have our draft
Speaker 2: pick this year.
Speaker 1: Mark's in the room. Great, calm down.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying from a from a team building perspective,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of crazy. Houston legend, Andre Ware. You
Speaker 2: remember those running shoot teams at the University of Houston
Speaker 2: back then.
Speaker 3: And you've got a coach, because I think this matter
Speaker 3: is too You've got a coach that beat Coach of
Speaker 3: the Year candidate Shane Stike in a year ag and
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year candidate Kevin Or a week ago,
Speaker 3: and Kevin Stefanski this week two weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Stike and that was a closely fought game.
Speaker 1: This game really looks so great on Ryan's resume because
Speaker 1: they were embarrassed by this same Browns team a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and he showed Ryan's all the adjustments
Speaker 1: that he made to take Amari Cooper out of the game,
Speaker 1: to limit and Djokh, to make it a game where
Speaker 1: you saw Flacco repeatedly, like I said, targeting the Browns
Speaker 1: fourth wide receiver and the second tight end, and it
Speaker 1: was kind of a masterclass all the way around from
Speaker 1: Houston in a big spot, right.
Speaker 2: And Ryan's who I think has If their defense had
Speaker 2: been a top five defense this year, he would have
Speaker 2: definitely won Coach of the Year. And I think Stevanci's
Speaker 2: gonna win it on.
Speaker 1: That should have been the Coach of the Year Bowl.
Speaker 1: We should now.
Speaker 3: It's kind of much smarlso vote on these things like
Speaker 3: during the playoffs or something.
Speaker 2: There is a case to be made to just vote
Speaker 2: on everything after the playoffs. It'd be a big disadvantage
Speaker 2: if you were on a team that threw no fault
Speaker 2: to your own, like didn't make it, you know, like
Speaker 2: a defensive player of the Year or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I think there's something to be said that wouldn't
Speaker 2: be crazy. But they mixed things up a lot. Stingley
Speaker 2: had not traveled all year with the opposing top receiver.
Speaker 2: He shadowed Cooper, and then I thought it really stood
Speaker 2: out when Flacco just had a straight drop back, he
Speaker 2: had no chance and the tackles finally caught up, like
Speaker 2: Grenard had that sack. Will Anderson had a ton of pressures.
Speaker 2: His pressure eight was through the roof. In this game,
Speaker 2: Derek Barnett had a big sack. He had a ton
Speaker 2: of pressures. I really thought that stood out like it
Speaker 2: was a big play action game where both teams could
Speaker 2: do play action, but when Stroud dropped back to pass,
Speaker 2: he had the time that he needed and Flacco really didn't.
Speaker 2: Both of those interceptions were on plays where he panicked
Speaker 2: a little because but it was also because quick pressure
Speaker 2: was right in his face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't sack him in the first game, and
Speaker 3: I know that case Keenan was the quarterback for Houston,
Speaker 3: so that was a whole different situation. But Flacco was
Speaker 3: protected well in that first game behind that same offensive line.
Speaker 3: I think you're right all the injuries because they were
Speaker 3: so banged up upfront up to him.
Speaker 1: Big time.
Speaker 6: Texans.
Speaker 2: Get the Ravens next week, the early Saturday game. If
Speaker 2: the Bills come through and win on on Monday, pretty simple.
Speaker 6: If the Bills, it's like seven plus four.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If the Bills lose to the Steelers as ten point favorites,
Speaker 2: and what a ghastly moment.
Speaker 6: That would be.
Speaker 1: They don't need the stealers.
Speaker 2: Then we would get Texans Chiefs, which would be a
Speaker 2: rematch of the divisional round a few years ago. You know,
Speaker 2: the Texans, I believe, are the only team in n
Speaker 2: in the NFL that have never been to a conference
Speaker 2: championship game. Mike Crazy, I think the Texans, they are
Speaker 2: the only franchise to never road playoff game, along the
Speaker 2: only one to never ap. Yeah, that makes sense a
Speaker 2: conference championship game. So they have now reached the furthest.
Speaker 1: They've they're the patrons, say, of West of Us, which
Speaker 1: we just celebrated. Yeah one and done's all over the
Speaker 1: place with the with the Bengals through the years. All
Speaker 1: right then, right, so so so, so we have one
Speaker 1: more game to hit. I had one more thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to share there, but now it's gone. It happens.
Speaker 1: I was so caught up in Gregg's comments, it.
Speaker 7: Escaped your mind.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it comes back, but we've already moved on to
Speaker 2: the next game, and that hurts too.
Speaker 6: Do it hurts? But I think we've done this show
Speaker 6: a long time. Mark.
Speaker 2: I want to give Dan the grace to if it
Speaker 2: comes back during the next game, it's back. We can
Speaker 2: have an official time out or some some sort of
Speaker 2: song and you give us that's already back.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well it's and the only disappointment
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. All I wanted to say was respectfully,
Speaker 1: because I love the divisional round so much. Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: are not invited to my divisional round now, so we
Speaker 1: we do not want any upsets. We want chalk for
Speaker 1: this Monday game to be played, maybe in a blizzard,
Speaker 1: maybe not.
Speaker 2: No, I think that was worth it. I think it was.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it respectfully. Just like the dis you can't come.
Speaker 7: You've issued your edict.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. It's time now for the
Speaker 1: Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander.
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Speaker 1: wife says to me. So my wife says to me.
Speaker 1: My wife says to me, oh, you know a car
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Grand Highlander. And I say,
Speaker 1: I says to her, I've been talking about that damn
Speaker 1: car all year on the podcast. And she went no
Speaker 1: because she doesn't listen to the show. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could end up with a Highlander. You never know
Speaker 1: how she ever.
Speaker 7: Listened to this show.
Speaker 6: Oh no, mine hasn't either.
Speaker 2: Well, that's Hilander people, Johnny Hilander out there.
Speaker 6: I know you love the show.
Speaker 2: Dan just gave you, like a free one minute pop
Speaker 2: that's worth an action.
Speaker 1: My wife wants your car. Can you give me the car.
Speaker 1: I'll drive the car. I'll talk about how much I
Speaker 1: like the car. Let's get to the game without further ado.
Speaker 1: A game played in some of the most miserably cold
Speaker 1: conditions in the history of professional football. Edwards Larry's in
Speaker 1: the game now. Running back Tay fake to him my.
Speaker 5: Home soares right, Sarry top Rice at the five touchdown.
Speaker 5: City rookie rush Hey Rice his first postseason touchdown.
Speaker 1: Eleven York trussing pattern.
Speaker 5: And just like Germany, the Chiefs have an outstanding opening
Speaker 5: drive thro a touchdown to.
Speaker 1: Start the game. I thought, what you talking about?
Speaker 6: Like historical jermyn like just.
Speaker 1: Like, don't get Greg going. We don't need to tea
Speaker 1: Greg up for some old h talk. We catch my drift.
Speaker 2: Just like Germany, an alliance will decide the future of
Speaker 2: our company and we will have to take away that.
Speaker 1: We don't need it. We didn't need it and now
Speaker 1: we got it, So thank you to you. Mark just
Speaker 1: passed out. Uh, Mitch Holtis, I'm just getting out of
Speaker 1: the way. Wtf with the call? Are the Chiefs gonna
Speaker 1: rope a dope us here? Raci Rice has a big,
Speaker 1: big game in his playoff debut. Eight catches for a
Speaker 1: buck thirty and a touchdown, another score called back in
Speaker 1: a dumb penalty by the Chiefs, and Kansas City easily
Speaker 1: takes care of business against a Dolphins team that, let's
Speaker 1: face it, come on, put him in those conditions. Of course,
Speaker 1: I locked it up twenty six to seven final, and
Speaker 1: quite frankly, it could have been a lot worse. But
Speaker 1: the Chiefs continued to have some struggles boys in the
Speaker 1: red zone where they would get in close and like
Speaker 1: I said, a penalty wiped out one touchdown. You had
Speaker 1: a bad Travis Kelsey drop which seems to be in
Speaker 1: every week thing now, which is weird. A couple of
Speaker 1: them that short circuit in another drive. So this is
Speaker 1: a game that could have easily been thirty five to seven,
Speaker 1: but they still took care of business and it was
Speaker 1: pretty clean bit of business from the Chiefs, who are
Speaker 1: a battle tested team that did not seem like the
Speaker 1: cold bothered them. And I know we talked about it
Speaker 1: on Thursday, the Miami Dobbins. Well, the players weren't born
Speaker 1: in Miami and all that, but you know what, Miami,
Speaker 1: they're a team that practices in Miami. They're a team
Speaker 1: that plays their games in Miami. They have a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's from Hawaii, for Christ's sake, in the middle of
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean, and they played like a team that
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with Arrowhead on that particular night.
Speaker 6: Yup.
Speaker 3: I thought it was an incredible case study on that front,
Speaker 3: because I you know, this matters like McDaniel's teams are
Speaker 3: four and ten in games played in December and January
Speaker 3: over the last two years, sixteen and six and others,
Speaker 3: and a lot of that has to do with, you know,
Speaker 3: you bring teams down to South Beach early on in
Speaker 3: the year, and teams are not ready for in the
Speaker 3: reverse one hundred plus degree temperature.
Speaker 1: The boat race them.
Speaker 3: You boat race them, and they finished one in six
Speaker 3: against playoff teams this year and you're facing a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Because I thought that was exactly true.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs looked comfortable in this climate much more so.
Speaker 3: Mahomes is twenty one and six in his career and
Speaker 3: games played in forty degrees or colder that matters. They're
Speaker 3: just they And I think you could lean on one thing.
Speaker 3: You knew their defense would show up at home, and
Speaker 3: they absolutely did. I think the Dolphins didn't convert a
Speaker 3: third down until some part of the fourth quarter. Like
Speaker 3: so everything that you thought Miami could maybe do, they
Speaker 3: couldn't do. And then you have you've been waiting for
Speaker 3: this guy to want someone to step up as a
Speaker 3: wide receiver and or Shei Rice did it yesterday. And
Speaker 3: it's like they like a team that had more drops
Speaker 3: than any other team in the league. Coming into this game.
Speaker 3: It looked more competent. And I'm willing to forgive a
Speaker 3: couple of mistakes here and there because it was like
Speaker 3: butt cold.
Speaker 2: I know, I I but cold, Like multiple things can
Speaker 2: be true here. The Dolphins could be not ill prepared
Speaker 2: for this moment. This could be the worst game of
Speaker 2: the weekend. It was, and it could also be the
Speaker 2: Chief's best game of the season. And I don't even
Speaker 2: think it was a question. Like there was a game
Speaker 2: against the Chargers that they played a pretty complete brand
Speaker 2: of ball and finished close, but even that was a
Speaker 2: one score game. They bought raced the Bears in Week
Speaker 2: three when the Bears were just a mess in the second,
Speaker 2: counting that they completely dominated this game until that those
Speaker 2: last couple of garbage time drives. The yardage was three
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety to one fifty one. If it wasn't
Speaker 2: for that fifty three yard touchdown by Tyreek which was
Speaker 2: a great individual play by Tyreek Hill on a throw
Speaker 2: that was a little underthrown, but a nice play call,
Speaker 2: they were just killing them. They had a nine play
Speaker 2: drive to start the game, which was the best drive
Speaker 2: they maybe had since Germany. A ten play drive, a
Speaker 2: twelve play drive, a thirteen play drive, a fourteen play drive.
Speaker 2: You don't think of the Chiefs as like a tough team,
Speaker 2: but they looked like a tough team. They got a
Speaker 2: tough defense, we know that, but they looked like a
Speaker 2: tough team on Saturday. They were very prepared for this game.
Speaker 2: They ground this Dolphins team into dust. And you kind
Speaker 2: of don't think of Mahomes as like a tough quarterback,
Speaker 2: but man is he tough. Like the throws that he
Speaker 2: could make in this weather and the runs that he
Speaker 2: could make were awesome.
Speaker 6: Andy Reid talked about it afterwards.
Speaker 12: Pat had a nice day just right from the gig go.
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't think they were anticipating us throwing
Speaker 12: the quite as much as we did, but we were
Speaker 12: able to come out and sling it. A lot of
Speaker 12: quarterbacks can't do that what he did in that kind
Speaker 12: of weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, talked about that on Thursday too,
Speaker 1: that you have Mahomes and you have Kelsey and it's
Speaker 1: like they're gonna make some plays in these conditions. And
Speaker 1: then it was like can the other team do that?
Speaker 1: And it's funny thing about Mahomes in general, like he
Speaker 1: kind of walks funny and he kind of talks funny,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't he doesn't even he doesn't even move
Speaker 1: very gracefully for one of the great athletes in the
Speaker 1: history of the sport. And yet like obviously his production
Speaker 1: and his career success, team success, and what you saw
Speaker 1: on Saturday night reminds you of like he's special and
Speaker 1: he's an all time player and they have a puncher's
Speaker 1: chance in the playoffs because of that, and if they
Speaker 1: would have continued to pour it on after that, Rice touchdown.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, just you know, shaking my
Speaker 1: fist as someone who also drafted Mahomes for a fantasy
Speaker 1: team in this very strange year for them, Are they
Speaker 1: gonna go put up forty five on the Dolphins. They
Speaker 1: didn't do that. They showed a lot of their awards
Speaker 1: that have been an issue all season on offense.
Speaker 2: And they had those sustained drives that I was talking about,
Speaker 2: so they took me. That was kind of portant. They
Speaker 2: did get one more touchdown. We didn't see a lot
Speaker 2: of ten, twelve, thirteen play drives out of this Chiefs
Speaker 2: team for a long time.
Speaker 6: I three five of them, so that was pretty good.
Speaker 6: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I just I can't because I've been down this road
Speaker 1: with this team this year as as we all have,
Speaker 1: where you you kind of buy in on them again.
Speaker 1: I thought the opponent was perfect for them, Mark, I
Speaker 1: could say it now and your showman, and I respect you.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you locked up the Dolphins against me
Speaker 1: in this one. This I can't either. This was a
Speaker 1: Kansas City team that just was I mean, you couldn't
Speaker 1: have put it on a platter for well.
Speaker 3: I did literally poorly for the confrontation in the in
Speaker 3: the but I yeah, but about four minutes into this game,
Speaker 3: I realized that was a dune Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I mean they could not wait. There was a drive,
Speaker 1: I think their penultimate drive where I actively seemed like
Speaker 1: they were trying to run out the clock like they
Speaker 1: they We're a team that was ready to get on
Speaker 1: the bus, and I think it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what's next around the Dolphins after this game. Obviously
Speaker 1: McDaniel loves Toua, and I don't think TWOA is like
Speaker 1: gonna be We're not gonna be talking about his job
Speaker 1: security in the near term. But they have to like
Speaker 1: start talking contract and do they want to make Tua
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid contracts in the league. He
Speaker 1: did lead the league and yardede passing, so he's he's
Speaker 1: gonna command a big contract. And I just wonder what
Speaker 1: the future holds to Miami because it does feel like
Speaker 1: this is a soft team and a front running team
Speaker 1: and a team that's not built to play these types
Speaker 1: of games. Here is Mike McDaniel talking about a tough
Speaker 1: day at the office.
Speaker 13: Nobody on this team really harbored all the excuses, the
Speaker 13: kind of whether all the different variables that people would
Speaker 13: talk about injuries, whether all that stuff we came here
Speaker 13: to win didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And it is fair to say Greg point out not
Speaker 1: to make excuses, because he's not making excuses. But they're
Speaker 1: missing so many key players on their defense. So in
Speaker 1: addition to the conditions not being conducive to what they
Speaker 1: liked to do, they were just missing so many playmakers
Speaker 1: that that factored in the Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Successful The defense of injuries especially gave them almost no
Speaker 2: chance in this game. In retrospect, I think it was
Speaker 2: six defensive starters, and it was like, you know, their
Speaker 2: best is so many of their best defensive I mean six.
Speaker 2: It's a lot in their offensive line n because they
Speaker 2: couldn't run the ball. But ultimately I think they had
Speaker 2: one touchdown in their final sixteen offensive possessions, so like
Speaker 2: that really wasn't where the I know, they weren't totally
Speaker 2: healthy on offense. Moster was coming back, Wada was coming back.
Speaker 2: The offensive line all year like it was a very
Speaker 2: injury plague team, but things were relatively stable on offense,
Speaker 2: and they totally flatlined. Tua had a sequence in the
Speaker 2: first half and they showed another angle of this play.
Speaker 6: It was a second and one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember it, where he just
Speaker 2: threw one of those It was like a swing pass.
Speaker 2: Was it two moster just when it hit the helmet
Speaker 2: and no, and it hits the dirt and that was
Speaker 2: gonna be a forty yard play and he just threw
Speaker 2: it in the dirt. And then the very next play
Speaker 2: they got pressure on him and he throws one of
Speaker 2: those two floaters where he like tries to throw it
Speaker 2: over the defender that's in his face and ends up
Speaker 2: being an interception, and that they made him hold the ball.
Speaker 2: And then there was the end of the sequence. I
Speaker 2: think that's what you're talking about them almost like running
Speaker 2: the playout. Like at the end of the game, he's
Speaker 2: throwing short on third and ten and in fourth and sixth, then.
Speaker 1: The play clock down to five four three.
Speaker 2: He threw for a six yard loss on third and
Speaker 2: ten in the late hurry up situation, and then he
Speaker 2: threw short on fourth and sixteen, and it was just.
Speaker 1: Like, man, I know I'm not piling on here. Although
Speaker 1: Dolphins fins, you know he's right about your team in
Speaker 1: the end, but is this a guy?
Speaker 3: Is this the guy well, I think if we're gonna
Speaker 3: if we're gonna say it's the guy, or to wonder
Speaker 3: if Dak Prescott needs to be reevaluated in terms of,
Speaker 3: like the moment that matters most, Dak Prescott hasn't lived
Speaker 3: up to it. Now too, It didn't have a chance
Speaker 3: to play in the Blastar's playoff, But like, this is
Speaker 3: someone that in big, big moments and sort of like
Speaker 3: mirrors the entire Dolphins, has not shown up when it
Speaker 3: mattered the most late in the season.
Speaker 7: I mean, this team just ran out of gas.
Speaker 3: You lose fifty six to nineteen to Baltimore, you crumble
Speaker 3: against the Bills a week ago, and you know, show
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and it's like, if everything isn't perfect
Speaker 3: for Tua in the Dolphins, there seem to be real issues.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what gives me that's not how
Speaker 3: it works. He got to go into adversity. I know
Speaker 3: they're banged up, but every team's banged up.
Speaker 2: He reminds me a little bit of like earlier career cousins.
Speaker 2: I think he's a he's well over, he's definitely ahead
Speaker 2: of the Dalton scale. He's in a top he's a
Speaker 2: top ten to twelve type of quarterback, maybe higher that
Speaker 2: would be on the lower end. But things are going
Speaker 2: to have to be right around him. But like that,
Speaker 2: that's always the question with quarterbacks like that. I think
Speaker 2: Dak's even another little level above that. But I think
Speaker 2: that's where he is. That he's a good quarterback, but
Speaker 2: you're gonna need to be tighter. Like they had four
Speaker 2: pre snap penalties. I counted him up on third down
Speaker 2: and almost all of them were in short yarded situation.
Speaker 6: But that's just like so sloppy.
Speaker 2: Uh, they couldn't really run the ball that The Chiefs
Speaker 2: were the better running team, which you wouldn't have expected.
Speaker 2: So like Mahomes, you look at this box score and
Speaker 2: it's like two for forty one running. That's a Mahomes
Speaker 2: running box score if I ever saw. And he had
Speaker 2: like two backbreaking runs in this game. So Tua was bad.
Speaker 2: He's gonna need everything around him, I think, to be
Speaker 2: like really good, and I think that's possible.
Speaker 6: But he's not going to carry you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big decision impossible though, big decision over the court.
Speaker 7: Everything needs to be perfect around your back.
Speaker 6: That's perfect. But I just mean, like we s.
Speaker 1: Three isn't kind to those type of quarterbacks when you're
Speaker 1: trying to win Lombardi.
Speaker 3: But everything kind of it has been perfect around to
Speaker 3: for Law until the injuries mounted.
Speaker 6: I mean, like the.
Speaker 2: This, this defense and the injuries and everything in the way.
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, but I don't know. We've
Speaker 2: seen some like mid level quarterbacks win super Bowls or
Speaker 2: higher than mid level if but he's probably not gonna
Speaker 2: be like the top five guy year after year.
Speaker 6: And and Dolphins fans have been trying to tell us.
Speaker 1: That the Dolphins finished one and six against playoff teams
Speaker 1: this year with a minus one hundred and ten point differential.
Speaker 1: So yeah, a positive season in some ways, like the
Speaker 1: fact that to a state healthy played every game including
Speaker 1: the playoffs, was a great development, But there are big
Speaker 1: questions because they keep winning the super Bowl in September,
Speaker 1: but that's not how it works in the big picture.
Speaker 2: And this Chiefs, I mean, this is unquestionably we knew
Speaker 2: it all season, but seeing it in the playoffs is
Speaker 2: unquestionably the best Chiefs defense we've ever seen. So we
Speaker 2: do have a Hall of Fame coach, one of the
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks of all time, and the best defense that
Speaker 2: they've ever had. It's why you got to say they
Speaker 2: got a chance. I mean, if they're in Buffalo, you're
Speaker 2: saying they don't have a chance against Buffalo, they of
Speaker 2: course they do.
Speaker 6: And if they're hosting Houston, they're the favorites in that game.
Speaker 2: Not like they're a lock or anything, but either way,
Speaker 2: they got a chance. Karloft has had a nice game,
Speaker 2: like the whole defense showed up, played great.
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Speaker 1: girlfriend work too by Taylor going to the game open
Speaker 1: air with the glass It was crazy. In fact, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do the Dreamatorium this week. By the way, that's
Speaker 1: I think three. That's the hat trick Dreamatorium references. Do
Speaker 1: you not have NFL Plus? I know, I know the
Speaker 1: league's making you get peacock and everything now, but the
Speaker 1: NFL Plus gives you the Dreamatorium access on Thursday, which
Speaker 1: we are having fun every week talking Dreamatorium and I
Speaker 1: have I'm gonna cook something up this what got I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cook something up this week about just the conditions
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and how wild it was so uh
Speaker 1: shout out to tell her. People get mad when they
Speaker 1: even show her on TV, which is toxic shocks is esculin.
Speaker 3: She emits like super loyal girlfriend vibes. She's a growing
Speaker 3: football fan and it's like the critique is annoying to me.
Speaker 2: Right they show her like, oh what you showed the
Speaker 2: biggest star in the world who is dating one of
Speaker 2: the biggest stars in the game, Like, oh, five, dare
Speaker 2: you do? Like that little picture with the with the
Speaker 2: snow beforehand, and that was like from a movie.
Speaker 6: That was amazing.
Speaker 1: I anger that I see on social media, Like what
Speaker 1: do you expect? Greig just said, it's true. It's literally
Speaker 1: the biggest star in the world with Travis Kelcey in
Speaker 1: a relationship.
Speaker 6: It's fine.
Speaker 7: It's like, how does television work? This is how it works.
Speaker 1: This is how culture works. It's good. It's part of
Speaker 1: the story of the chief season. Whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not. Stop being such a boring football head and
Speaker 1: wake up. There's a whole world in front of you.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get on me for you know, contrarian takes
Speaker 2: and whatnot. Sometimes I was laughing because I'm going to
Speaker 2: hit you with a big one here hit me.
Speaker 6: People need to calm down about Peacock. I mean, number one.
Speaker 1: You going, company man is not surprised.
Speaker 6: Company Man. This is how I really feel. Number one, Like.
Speaker 2: Everyone goes out to like bars to go watch these
Speaker 2: these games. It's like how much you're putting down.
Speaker 1: When everybody goes out to balls.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, you go out, you watch games,
Speaker 2: you go out to the bars, you watch a game
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 6: Yes, how much is a beer at like just one story?
Speaker 1: You're trying to get me in trouble right now. You
Speaker 1: want me to get into it debate that gets me fired.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is this is Greg hosting the show.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, you.
Speaker 2: Don't even think twice about drinking, you know, putting down
Speaker 2: however much on to watch the games. So that and
Speaker 2: you're putting down six bucks or whatever for Peacock. Now
Speaker 2: it's like an NFL playoff game. It's incredibly entertaining. And
Speaker 2: then on the back end, it's like, oh, do I
Speaker 2: want to check out Season ten a Top Chef again?
Speaker 6: Maybe I do? Maybe I do, Yeah, but maybe I
Speaker 6: want to go check that. I hear you, it's I
Speaker 6: get six dollars.
Speaker 14: Calm down.
Speaker 2: People pay six dollars for a coffee. There's lines out
Speaker 2: the door in Santa Monica to pay six dollars for
Speaker 2: someting your financial situation on everyone else.
Speaker 3: I think the thing is like, if you're going to
Speaker 3: a bar, you're choosing to Like I tell you, you.
Speaker 2: Could choose not to watch it or go to the
Speaker 2: bar if you don't want to watch it.
Speaker 6: If you know, people's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people don't want to go to the bar. And
Speaker 1: and by the way, you know.
Speaker 6: Go to your friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make me what if you don't have friends? What
Speaker 1: if you just want to sit home and watch the game.
Speaker 1: But maybe you're not great with a smart.
Speaker 2: So you paid so I would I guess I would
Speaker 2: venture to say in that scenario, six dollars is fine, Like,
Speaker 2: calm down, six dollars a month, No, but you just
Speaker 2: cancel it. You also don't know it's not a lifetime rate.
Speaker 1: Don't throw me directly to a Ted the Talking Teddy
Speaker 1: Bear reboot immediately after the game. I didn't ask for that, right,
Speaker 1: nobody asked for that. Uh, go check out the box
Speaker 1: office that Ted two did. Everybody Ted had a moment.
Speaker 1: It was weird. I was talking about with my buddy
Speaker 1: Bob on text today, like it's weird, the whole Ted phenomenon.
Speaker 1: And then everybody was kind of like, all right, we're
Speaker 1: kind of done with Seth MacFarlane. Ted two came out
Speaker 1: as stiffed. He made a cowboy movie of some kind.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to see that, and then everyone moved on,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden Ted shows up again,
Speaker 1: the talking teddy Bear. Didn't ask for it, don't want it,
Speaker 1: don't stick it in my TV.
Speaker 2: It's funny because when that popped on Walker, you want
Speaker 2: to I want to watch that? I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know. That's an our, that's a hard r uh,
Speaker 2: don't need it. Holdovers available on Peacock. Great, great movie.
Speaker 2: Your what's your financial steak in Peacock? All right, I'll
Speaker 2: give you the last word on that one.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 7: I'm very happy for Greg and his over.
Speaker 6: I just fed. I went and paid twenty bucks to
Speaker 6: go see Holdovers.
Speaker 1: You know it would be saying who asked for Ted?
Speaker 1: Who has for more? Ted? Honestly not a human that
Speaker 1: I know. What? What was Mark Wahlberg like in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three? Well go read some stories about.
Speaker 2: That now if you want to say, Jason Garrett popping
Speaker 2: out of nowhere after not announcing games all year, maybe
Speaker 2: he had one or two and he's suddenly in like
Speaker 2: one of the biggest games of the year, and he's
Speaker 2: saying to go for on their own thirty five by
Speaker 2: the way down twelve.
Speaker 6: Good job by Garrett. It's like you would have never
Speaker 6: done that as a coach.
Speaker 2: That was a big moment for analytics in general, that
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett is saying, Gopher fourth out on your own
Speaker 2: thirty five.
Speaker 3: But maybe he's had a Mike McCarthy esque epiphany during
Speaker 3: his time away from the.
Speaker 6: G I would like a little perhaps super bullpen there.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick before we say goodbye. We didn't talk
Speaker 1: Steeler bills, of course, because there was a nasty blizzard
Speaker 1: in western New York. That game was pushed till Monday.
Speaker 7: And Governor, I mean, if you don't know that, what
Speaker 7: are you doing?
Speaker 1: Big pop for the governor. By the way, it's a woman, right,
Speaker 1: She's getting a ton of Kathy. Yeah, Kathy's getting a
Speaker 1: ton ton of publicity out of this. Uh she said
Speaker 1: today she said sed Hoculey's wife, Kathy. It won't be
Speaker 1: pushed backed again. So that game happens tomorrow of course.
Speaker 1: Also the Bucks Eagles tomorrow, and we're gonna have the
Speaker 1: recap tomorrow night. A couple other news notes. The Chargers
Speaker 1: are gonna meet with Jim Harbaugh according to ESPNA report,
Speaker 1: and also the the the Patriots, they quickly move and
Speaker 1: hire a new head coach, his name Mayo, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into that into a little bit more detail,
Speaker 1: uh tomorrow night. So that's what's happening in the news
Speaker 1: and that's it. Anything else, Uh, Big Fun. What's Big
Speaker 1: Funk doing to celebrate? I'm curious the Packers. You know,
Speaker 1: the guy, very nice guy in the in the theater,
Speaker 1: but when he says I lived through two and six.
Speaker 6: Mark, it used to annoy you so much.
Speaker 7: They were two and five, so I don't know where
Speaker 7: he thought they were dead.
Speaker 2: They used to hate the idea that they got Rogers
Speaker 2: right after farm. That used to bother you so much.
Speaker 2: And now here we are and this team is better
Speaker 2: with Jordan Love. Does this annoy you?
Speaker 3: I kind of felt going into this season that it
Speaker 3: was an exhaustion with Aaron Rodgers that I that I
Speaker 3: will experience it.
Speaker 1: This is different. Will this bother you Mark, if we
Speaker 1: put it in this perspective because I tweeted, because it's
Speaker 1: still bothering.
Speaker 3: We start talking about Peacock again, I'll start to get annoyed.
Speaker 1: Brett Farv nineteen ninety nineteen ninety two to two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, Aaron Rodgers two thousand and eight to twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, Jordan Love twenty twenty three to two thousand
Speaker 1: and thirty eight, followed by a disastrous stay with the Jets,
Speaker 1: my entire existence.
Speaker 2: So you'll get one super Bowl title about eight if
Speaker 2: divisional round in conference lasses and I'll take that.
Speaker 6: It'll be fine a couple of weeks, big fun.
Speaker 14: Look, I know it's weird to say it because a
Speaker 14: lot of people would consider themselves lucky to have what
Speaker 14: the Packers have had. But we've had some really tough losses.
Speaker 14: So to be here now, I feel I feel great.
Speaker 14: I feel good.
Speaker 1: One second, turn up this music. Let's just groove to this,
Speaker 1: and then I want you to come back in. Ready,
Speaker 1: turn it up all the way on my headphones. All
Speaker 1: big bong. He's got killing big bunk all the way
Speaker 1: till twenty the font the big Bong, come back in. Baby,
Speaker 1: what's happening. Guys, I'm feeling good. I know you all, baby,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm feeling rengratulations about I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1: Randy is a really good dude. So and I haven't
Speaker 1: met too many jerk Packer fans.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's It's not their fault that they've had
Speaker 3: this fortune. They're not an unlikable thing. They know ball,
Speaker 3: they know ball. They have a good group covering the team.
Speaker 3: I feel like, which which helps.
Speaker 2: They're ten point underdogs, by the way, in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: So your Housemarke, give me all the points.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I want it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 7: This game.
Speaker 14: This game really was like we were just happy to
Speaker 14: be there, you know, I think going and humble, going
Speaker 14: in just zen. That's been my mood all week because Zen,
Speaker 14: I'm just happy to be here. I'm happy to watch
Speaker 14: the game.
Speaker 7: If I'm the Niners, I'm thinking, like, wait, how did
Speaker 7: Marion loving the Packers?
Speaker 1: Next early prediction either the Packers or the Texans, and
Speaker 1: damn it, maybe both win next week. I love that.
Speaker 7: I would not I've been saying for a long time.
Speaker 3: I think Texans two to two playoff wins, and I
Speaker 3: think it's It's not even a remotely impossible concept that
Speaker 3: they could challenge the rate.
Speaker 2: What if your hoisted on your own petard there? You
Speaker 2: know well that there was something about the football gods.
Speaker 1: You're getting behind one other team this year, the Texans,
Speaker 1: and then they dismantle the Browns. What is up with
Speaker 1: the football gods? Why can't they just be cool?
Speaker 3: I never I never liked the fact that Cleveland got
Speaker 3: Houston at all at all, And it came to uh,
Speaker 3: it came to fruition those concerns.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then and then the team of ATN. He may
Speaker 1: be the Texans and Packers, the two teams that maybe
Speaker 1: should have been the team of ATN meeting the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: that would be it's all in play. We made a
Speaker 1: grave error with the with the team of ATEN.
Speaker 6: I blame Tyler Goodson for dropping that fourth and one pass.
Speaker 1: All right, time to go, Great job behind the glass,
Speaker 1: Great job listeners. Thank you to Sky Sports for having
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