WEBVTT - Draft Show: 48 Hours 'Til Draft Time 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.640 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.680 on the your war room for incenter news and draft 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.800 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:28.840 the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:34.960 your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:40.680 Happy Draft Week to everybody. Still three days away counting today, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.720 but we're getting closer. It's two like to stay. The 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.720 hardest to stay already gone. The hardest part of any 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.840 day is getting out of bed. So we're two days away. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.640 We're two days away, all right, I'll take your word 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:54.640 for it, David Hellman, but yes, Happy Draft Week to 0:00:54.640 --> 0:01:00.280 everybody out there. Welcome to the week of confusion hate 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.160 This week amidst reports all kinds of things going on, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.640 Teams putting that final touch to their board, and then 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.880 it becomes stare at the board. Everybody sits around in 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.560 that room and they look at that board, and like 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.800 I've told you, boys before, you just wish the tags 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.640 would start to glow and tell you which one of 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.800 those guys to take. But you are watching the Draft 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.280 Show and we as always appreciate you guys, hanging out 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.880 with us, so we'll have a couple of days of 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.839 draft show stuff before the actual draft from Philadelphia kicks 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.080 off on Thursday. We're really excited about the three days 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.720 of coverage we have. It's gonna be wall to wall 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.360 like we always do. That's that's important to us. You know, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.360 we've carried you this far on this journey, and we're 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.840 going to make sure that we get you home with 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:52.040 what you need as always. Dame Brugler from CBS Sports 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.560 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com joining us today. David Hellman 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.240 from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, who has gotten better at 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.880 this every year. At first, thanks, At first, I thought 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.880 I'm gonna go why that. No, not a backhanded comm 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.600 compliment at all, but I appreciate the input that you've 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.360 had over here the last couple of years, and it 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.840 means a lot. It really really does. Ken Garrison executive 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.639 producing this thing. Like I've talked about, we're gonna do 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.760 a show today and then tomorrow we're gonna do our 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.920 seventh round Cowboy mock Draft, and we're gonna play it 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.600 like it's a war room setting. We're gonna play it 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.919 where we're gonna get possible trades. We're gonna have opportunity 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.040 to move up, to move back, maybe stand there and 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.480 make a pick. But this will probably be the best 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.679 mock draft seven mock draft you will see on the 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.320 Dallas Cowboys. I will say this, this has got a 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.960 shot to be the one that's got the most realistic. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.960 I know there's a lot of folks that like to 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.240 play the games and stuff on the simulators. I just 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.399 my gut feeling on this one is this one we'll 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.680 get you. We'll get you going the right way. You 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.680 might not like it them you might not like it, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.239 but absolutely might not like it, but you will when 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.000 it's all said and done, you will understand that it's 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.040 it's it's going to be the most realistic one that 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.040 we're going to go through. And the picks almost don't 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.320 even matter at the end of the day. It is 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.639 a mock draft. But the way I love the way 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.919 we do. I think it paints a pretty clear picture 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.560 of what it does. Conversations are like and what it does, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.600 and it's going on, it's going off the board, it's 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.880 going it's it's taking everything into account that you need 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.640 to take when preparing a mock draft, and like I say, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.799 it's gonna be a seven round mock draft of the 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.960 Dallas Cowboys. So we'll do that tomorrow. But today I 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.600 want to get into guys before we start to show them. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:41.680 And by the way, I want to take a bunch 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.520 of calls today if I could, I you know, well, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.160 we'll do the Twitter on the twenty, but at the 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.280 end of the show, I want to take a bunch 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.880 of calls at eight eight eight eight five five two 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.240 two nine seven. You know, Dave gets on me about 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.400 not taking calls, and he's absolutely right, but I want 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.000 I want you folks to call in, you know, Kik Garrison, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.360 and we'll take your call. Be kind to him. We're 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.320 all doing great. Just you know, get to your question. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.360 We'll try and hit some of these rapid fire questions 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.160 and knock them out. If you don't get you on 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.720 Twitter on the twenty, well maybe we'll get you on 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.760 a call. Don't be afraid to call, don't be afraid 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.680 to ask a question. We want to get you an answer. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.560 So I'd like to take a lot of calls before 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.159 before we in this week, and I plan on taking 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.200 calls during the draft too. You know, there'll be a 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.040 couple of segments where we have a little bit of 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.000 a lag, maybe be prepared to ask them questions about that, 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.280 you know coming up as well. But let's talk a 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.000 little bit about the news of the day, guys. And 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.200 it bothers me for these teams that they're having to 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.120 deal with a lot of things all of a sudden now. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.920 And teams are very good at adapting to whatever situation 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.680 they have. But you get news of say Peppers and 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.080 the deluded test, you know where Okay, where's he stand 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.480 there on that? If you're a team that likes Peppers, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.320 you know, Dane, you feel like there's teams in the 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.000 first round, be some general manager that says, you know what, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.440 I'm taking this cat absolutely, so you got him. You 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:10.599 got the situation now in a Cleveland hotel with you know, 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.359 we're trying to figure out names and I'm not going 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.880 to speculate and throw names out there, but just talking 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.960 to some people have an idea about that. Everything we 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.760 know but still it's confirmed. There's yeah, we don't need 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.200 but let me tell you this one will this one 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.920 will get your attention. Yeah, you know when it when 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.320 it all is said and done. But I like to 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.920 talk about that Dane. You know, I like to talk 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.200 about why. You know, how if you're sitting in a 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.279 draft room right now, what are your feelings? What are 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.040 your You just want this thing to start. You want 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.039 the commissioner to stand there and open this thing and 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.119 let's go. I hate draft week. I hate I love 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.000 draft day, draft weekend. Draft. Besides, my family's probably the 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.240 biggest love in my life. Yeah, but draft week, it's 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.520 just it's torture because you're just kind of you're refreshing 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.440 your email, you're checking your phone for text message, is okay, 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.800 what's the next shoot a drop? Yeah, who's gonna get 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.480 in trouble? What's going to be released? You know, what's 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.600 the next thing that's going to happen. And you just 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.040 kind of crushed your fingers that nothing else does. But 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.599 you mentioned ja Bill Peppers. We could talk about Florida 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.960 defensive tackle kaylebr I'm glad you got into that one 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.800 incident that happened earlier this month that uh, you know, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.599 finally charges to bring brought on him and this is 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.000 something that can knock him out of the draft altogether. Sure, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.760 with battery charges, he allegedly punched a woman, knocked her unconscious, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.839 knocked the tooth out. So Kayleb Brantley goes from a 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.839 second rounder too likely undrafted depending on what details we know, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.159 and we're still waiting on information from Jordan Lewis the 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.640 corner from Michigan, right, But with Jabrill Peppers, now this 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.600 is he has the same excuse that Ruben Foster did 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.520 diluted sample. It's not a failed drug test, but it 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.320 might as well be treated as such, sure because masking, right, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.880 and so it's something that now his explanation of you know, 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.560 cramping and being sick and just he needed to be hydrated, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.000 is that credible? Maybe it might be the truth, but 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.359 it's something that is an easy excuse for why a 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.200 deluded sample might happen. And it's if you're an NFL team, 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.800 you just have to do your investigation and try and 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.880 figure out because as far as I know, I haven't 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.680 heard of any drug issues, which no, so, but if 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.640 he does, if this holds true, then he enters the 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.840 NFL and the program already and that's one strike and 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.800 he's a target on his back and that's something that 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.080 it carries with him with drafting him. If you're going 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.440 to draft him in the first round. So it's a 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.720 it's a tough call. It's something that the week of 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.160 the draft, this is the last thing you want to 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.000 be dealing with. Yeah, David, this, you know, and you 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 know they're putting these boards together and all of a sudden, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.040 like Dame was talking about, you know, Brantley on my 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.360 board was a second round player, and I think maybe 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.560 on Dane he was a two three two three. Yeah, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.120 but if we've mentioned so, yeah, but you talked about 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.520 there's depending on what you do with your three techniques 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.920 in this draft. You know, if you didn't move Solomon Thomas, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.760 Am I right about that? Gane? Yeah, if you don't 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:05.000 move Solomon Thomas, and maybe even McDowell, if you talk 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.000 about Malik McDowell where you play him, you know, Brantley 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.239 could have been the best three technique in this draft. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.760 So now you're a team, it's a four three team, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.800 and you're sitting there thinking about him, and you're going, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:21.520 wait a minute, you know, but I just I'm gonna 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.400 quote Michael Lombardi here, my friend, you know, who works 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.640 at the Ringer now and was a general manager. Mike tells, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.320 you know, tweeted out to the other day about you 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:34.400 don't know all the deep medical information, and you don't 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.400 know about all the deep off the field stuff. There's 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.880 a lot of things out there that we we're gonna 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.240 go in this draft having our boards and all our 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.559 notes and everything ready, but these teams have got things 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.280 about these kids that we don't know about yet. And 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.520 then all of a sudden, now you start watching people 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:57.760 fall and it becomes very evident, very quickly, that there's 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.120 something there. There's more there than what we know on 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.920 our media level. Well, I mean the Dane's guides are great. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.120 I mean, yeah, this time last year, who was on 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.760 the cover of this thing? Unsel? Was it not? Yeah, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.640 And we were pretty confident he would be a top 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:17.600 three pick. He went to nine or was it plummeted Dolphins. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.200 Nobody saw that coming until fifteen minutes before the draft 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.040 when all that stuff happened, because teams had no idea 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.560 how to handle that situation, and he just kind of 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.559 crossed your fingers that nothing like that happens this year. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.400 But this week we've already seen a few things. And 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.240 going back to Caleb Brantley, he wasn't he was already 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.320 having a pretty poor pre draft process. Sure, he admitted 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.480 effort issues for a big part of why his numbers 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.160 weren't better, and his tape was inconsistent, and then his 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.640 combine numbers were terrible. Yeah, and then he didn't retest 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.920 at the pro day, so he felt, Okay, yeah, that's 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.960 that's who I am. I'm a seven six three cone guy. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.320 That's just who I am. Yeah, for an up he accepted. Yeah, 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.000 penetrator at three technique who thrives on knifing through gaps 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.320 and disrupting the backfield as a strong red flag right there. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.080 And then you also factor in now this off field 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.559 stuff and yeah, it's hard to see him getting drafted Wolf, Yeah, exactly, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.199 real quick. It's kind of funny, not funny, but ironic. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.480 The guy that we've been talking about all along with 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.640 the character stuff, Joe Mixon. Yeah, some closure came to 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.559 his case, right is. The lawsuit was settled and you know, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.760 he apologized to her face that you know that, So 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.080 whoever drafts Joe Mixon yeats closure. Right, There's still gonna 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.760 be that pr backlash or whatever, but at least and 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.200 everything that's in the past. So Joe Mixon enters the NFL, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.240 you know, no lawsuits, no pending legal charges, no, nothing 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.160 like that, no civil suits. So that's a big deal 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.760 for Mixon. Joe Mixon will be He'll still I mean 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.720 the city that drafts him, they'll still run the video 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.240 that absolutely. Yeah, he has fewer questions surrounding him as 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.440 he prepares to get drafted. Then about six of these 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.920 other guys still I still look at Minnesota two forty eight. Yeah, 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.040 that's my spot, Joe Mixon two forty one, Cincinnati Orcinti. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.880 Cincinnati is another team that we talked about. Cincinnati's a 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.360 team at nine that can end up with Foster. I 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.840 asked a bunch of people about Foster. Everybody, Yeah, how 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.760 the consensus was he wasn't getting out of the first round. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.240 But okay, not only do you have the diluted test, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.680 which whatever, take that for whatever you want, you also 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.120 have the hospital incidents. Yeah, I think people are for 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.000 more forgiving of the hospital incident than they are the test. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.800 I don't really feel like I want to be forgiving 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.040 of either, like so, but I'm just saying when you 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.640 look at the NF, when you talk to scouts, they 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.800 are more concerned about the test than they are about 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.160 because they understand what goes on with the combine. It's 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.800 not fall do It's not fair because I mean, it's 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.160 too obvious of a comparison because he played at Alabama. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.160 But like, all I've been thinking about since all this 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:51.480 happened is Rulanda Malo. Yeah, and that's I've been It's 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.600 in my in my skying report on him. But I 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.760 was told by a scout that they are really concerned 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.880 about how much he likes the party. Yeah, college kids 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.959 like the party. Okay, this isn't like, you know, you 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.960 could put that in every single or you know, ninety 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.320 five percent of reports, but it was it was a 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.320 concern for this team. You know, they were worried that 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.880 he overdoes it in terms of partying, that it's a 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.760 too much of a priority for him compared to where 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.360 football should be on his priority list. So, you know, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.840 I get it, college kids like the party. This team 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.800 that told me that had a little bit more of 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.240 a concern than just your average college kid going out 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.880 having a few beers just they're like enjoying themselves. College 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.240 kids will do, so it's a little more serious. Yeah, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.600 that's interesting. So I got it. At nine and forty one, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.120 what if they go Seriously, what if they go Foster 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.320 and Mixing could argue two of the top ten players 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.720 in this That's what I'm saying. And you know what, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.079 in the in the dream draft, Yeah, I need to 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.480 work at Cincinnati exactly. I mean I need to be 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.960 there with Duke Tobin and Bill Tobin and all and 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.400 all those old John Cooper. They got all these old 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.280 scouts and they just they just look at the tape. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.880 That's all they do. They don't really care about what 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.880 you know, you could they see value with players good worker, 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.960 bad guy, good work. I'm a good work or a 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.000 bad guy. That's exactly what I am. Dane Dave thoughts 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.280 about as we look at the top. Then the number 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.359 one pick in the draft is a really split room 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:17.760 on taking you know, on Miles Garrett or taking a 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.920 quarterback there. Yeah, and like I've said before, it's there 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.480 are certain voices in that room in that building who 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.440 want the quarterback and who really like Mitchell Trubisky. And 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.520 you can guarantee you the ownership wants a quarterback. And 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.840 so it just depends on who are those voices, how 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.720 loud are those voices, because I think the consensus is 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.320 that everyone's on board, Miles Garrett. Okay, Myles Garrett's not 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.760 the problem here. Yeah, the problem is those voices loud 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:47.400 enough to sway everyone into taking Trubisky. And I keep 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.880 coming back to Hugh Jackson, and if he's not one 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.360 hundred percent on board, how can you take a quarterback 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.280 at number one? Sure does make any sense to me. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.679 Hugh Jackson's a quarterback guy, right, he's your he can 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.679 develop them, right, and so you know, if he's not 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.400 on board at the quarterback at one, I just don't 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.320 see how they can do that. But the Browns do 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.480 things differently, and uh, you just never know. Could they 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.280 do it? Maybe can we go back in time and 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.920 consider the fact, like I and I struggle with it 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.120 for this very reason, which is that like the Browns 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.200 wanted no part of Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. Yeah, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.360 maybe a little bit of regret going on. They straight 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.720 up we're like, we're good, give us the picks we 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.000 don't want, and now like, but they're made potentially obviously 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.040 we don't know, but they're may be sold that this 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.920 one year starter Mitchell Trubisky is like the guy that 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.280 they got to take him over generational pass rusher they 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.280 I don't buy it. They were ready to take Jared Goff, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.920 but they Wentz is the guy they didn't like, and 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.400 so they I could, I could make an argument that 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.800 Trubisky is more ready for the NFL than Wins. You know. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:55.200 I mean, that's that's fair. That's fair. That I fair. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:00.280 He only played a year, you know, yeah year, and 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.800 Wentz was a year and a half. So that's fair. Now, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.080 Trubisky didn't have the Senior Bowl. It didn't have you know, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.720 so we don't know, you know, Trubisky had a chance 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.120 to got the Senior Bowl. Maybe know a little bit 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.240 more about him, things like that. But yeah, the Browns 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.200 did not like Wentz, and maybe they do feel regret 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.760 about it. But I think they have a higher grade 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.080 on Trubisky than they did on Wins. And so right 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.080 now is when you're kind of planting those seeds for 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.160 those possible trade ups. See that's what I'm thinking right now. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.720 And I'm thinking if if they don't, if the Browns 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:33.400 do take Trubisky at one, all right, San Francisco, is 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.680 the window opened? Can they pass on Miles Garrett? Zero 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.040 chance they take Miles Garrett? I don't know. Yeah, they're moving. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.720 You see anybody, you see John Lynch, first year GM, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.480 you see them maybe saying, oh wait a minute, oh wait, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.560 you told us your picks for sale. They're picks for 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.080 sale because they don't think they're gonna have Miles Garrett. Yeah, 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.640 it's Miles Garrett. First of all, I think there's a 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.160 ninety five percent chance Miles Garrett goes one. Now if 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.840 it happened, Yeah, I was just fainting this scenario and 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.480 that five percent chance that he doesn't. I I think 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.840 he goes to to San Francisco. That's a perfect pick 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.440 for a first year general man. I was going to say, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.280 if you're a first year GM, how do you do 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.560 anything but take the guy that people What if he 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.320 thinks it's we always tell her, but he what if 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.920 he evaluates his team correctly and thinks he's very talent 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.200 poor and maybe adding pihaps once in a generation pass 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920 rusher sounds like a good way to bolster your ross. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.080 I'm just Stephen Jones yesterday said it was short of 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.000 saying about that because he was asked about is this 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.760 DeMarcus Ware I'm who Miles Garrett? Miles Garrett? Yeah, And 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.520 well he's and he made the very correct observation that 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.040 you go play. You can't compare anybody who's never played 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.720 in the right to a Hall of fame. Stephen Jones 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.440 also said, as great as it is to trade and 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.360 get picks and do all this stuff, like if a 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.360 guy's there that you really like, never trade away, just 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.440 take him. Yeah, that is my That has been my 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.840 mantra forever. Never trade away from a great player. But 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.680 you know, I can I mean, and we're wrong all 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.160 the time, but I can't imagine a scenario where Myles 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.359 Garrett falls further than two. It'd be a shock. I mean, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.959 we never thought Leonard William Jonathan Allen at seventeen. Hey, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.280 well that's medical. I mean, if there is something unforeseen 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.280 that we don't know about, then sure, and then ended 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.359 up at Washington would not be good for me. You 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.040 don't have to go there and watch the game anyway, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.479 I know, but I don't want him like him wrapped 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.000 around number four's neck the entire game. Well, then again, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.920 you got some guard doing that. Superman died. Don't seeing 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.440 that a lot once he's drafted? Yeah, exactly, it over 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.119 and over again. But you think San Francisco stands in 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.480 there if Miles Garrett in fact is the player on 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.720 the board, they stay there and make up absolutely. I 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.040 think somebody try and blow them away with a quarterback deal, 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.440 like what But it's like like what Cleveland and this 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.080 guy Tennessee had to endure last year. Who's got the 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.240 arsenal to do that? Cleveland? Yeah? I mean, but that's 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.680 about it, right, I mean, to get where you need 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.720 to get to get that pick. Yeah, And if they 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.639 do that, I think they are taking Garrett at one, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.280 and then they try to trade and they trade back 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.119 with San Francisco to try and make it happen, right, 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.760 because I think they feel like Garrett or Trubisky won't 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.639 go two. He might go three, but three three is 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.760 a possibility, right, But two all forget it too. I 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.879 have no idea what's going to happen at two. Oh, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.000 nobody knows what's gonna happen. And that's kind of the point. 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.800 That's the But it won't send the draft in a 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.640 different direction because nobody really knows what's going on there. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.080 It's it. It could be Millie Cooker, Jamal Adams could be, 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.040 Jonathan Allen could be, Solomon Thomas could be any one 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.159 of these guys. Yeah, he just with the first year 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.639 general manager and a first year head coach and a 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.880 team that has needs all across the roster, it could 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.240 literally be one of seven eight guys, and it shouldn't 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.520 surprise anybody. See that's what do you buy into the 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.879 fact that they're saying that the second player is comparable? 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.320 You think it's more like two from two to eight. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.880 That's that's me personally. I mean, I think you look 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.960 at the top seven eight players in this draft that 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.000 you know Miles, I mean, Miles Garrett's on a tier 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.280 by himself, right, a second tier. I think if Jonathan 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.360 Allen's Almon Thomas to tow sayfeties, Marshawn Lattimore, and then 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.199 you know, I think Ruben Foster would have been in 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.479 there if not for what's going on with him. And 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.679 then I think you have the next tier, which goes 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.320 from you know, like nine to twenty and I think 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.760 twenty to fifty that is the next tier. So it's 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.720 a lot of players once you get past the top 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.439 ten or so top eight, a lot of players on 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.720 the similar plane in terms of talent and what you 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.479 think they could be at the next level. Okay, real 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.680 quickly before we go to break here, cowboys going to 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.880 stay put or make a small move up first round up, 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.240 not back up. I think it's way more likely that 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.520 they just stay, hang tight and make their pick yep 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.320 Stan pep, I think so Yep? I do I think 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.800 they stay twenty They haven't moved in five years? Yeah, 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.520 I got you could say that. Maybe I think they 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.639 were really I think they were overly I think I 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.920 think they were overly selling yesterday, how overly selling with 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.520 Steven and Jerry selling stay stay? You think they were 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.359 trying to come yeah, like the I think yeah, I 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.960 think they were thinking, you know what, if there's somebody there, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.720 we're going to get our award Daddy, Yeah, there's somebody there. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.119 There's so much uncertainty now at twenty eight? Am I 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:11.840