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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the your war room for incenter news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well.

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Speaker 1: Happy Draft Week to everybody. Still three days away counting today,

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Speaker 1: but we're getting closer. It's two like to stay. The

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Speaker 1: We're two days away, all right, I'll take your word

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Speaker 1: for it, David Hellman, but yes, Happy Draft Week to

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Speaker 1: everybody out there. Welcome to the week of confusion hate

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Speaker 1: This week amidst reports all kinds of things going on,

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Speaker 1: Teams putting that final touch to their board, and then

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Speaker 1: I've told you, boys before, you just wish the tags

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Speaker 1: would start to glow and tell you which one of

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Speaker 1: those guys to take. But you are watching the Draft

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Speaker 1: Show and we as always appreciate you guys, hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us, so we'll have a couple of days of

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Speaker 1: draft show stuff before the actual draft from Philadelphia kicks

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Speaker 1: off on Thursday. We're really excited about the three days

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Speaker 1: of coverage we have. It's gonna be wall to wall

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Speaker 1: like we always do. That's that's important to us. You know,

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Speaker 1: going to make sure that we get you home with

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Speaker 1: what you need as always. Dame Brugler from CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com joining us today. David Hellman

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, who has gotten better at

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Speaker 1: this every year. At first, thanks, At first, I thought

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go why that. No, not a backhanded comm

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Speaker 1: compliment at all, but I appreciate the input that you've

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Speaker 1: means a lot. It really really does. Ken Garrison executive

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Speaker 1: producing this thing. Like I've talked about, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a show today and then tomorrow we're gonna do our

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Speaker 1: seventh round Cowboy mock Draft, and we're gonna play it

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Speaker 1: like it's a war room setting. We're gonna play it

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna get possible trades. We're gonna have opportunity

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Speaker 1: make a pick. But this will probably be the best

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Speaker 1: mock draft seven mock draft you will see on the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I will say this, this has got a

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Speaker 1: shot to be the one that's got the most realistic.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of folks that like to

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Speaker 1: my gut feeling on this one is this one we'll

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Speaker 1: get you. We'll get you going the right way. You

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Speaker 1: but absolutely might not like it, but you will when

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done, you will understand that it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's going to be the most realistic one that

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Speaker 1: we're going to go through. And the picks almost don't

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Speaker 1: a mock draft. But the way I love the way

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Speaker 1: of what it does. Conversations are like and what it does,

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Speaker 1: going it's it's taking everything into account that you need

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So we'll do that tomorrow. But today I

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Speaker 1: let's go. I hate draft week. I hate I love

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Speaker 1: having a pretty poor pre draft process. Sure, he admitted

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Speaker 1: for Mixon. Joe Mixon will be He'll still I mean

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Speaker 1: the city that drafts him, they'll still run the video

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Speaker 1: that absolutely. Yeah, he has fewer questions surrounding him as

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Speaker 1: the opportunity for you to grab the beast. I think

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Speaker 1: I said that the right way. Yeah, I might not have,

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Speaker 1: but a might. This is a Dane Burglar's draft guide

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Speaker 1: on these players if you already have not. Dane, once again,

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Speaker 1: we do it this way. How dp Burglar on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: There's a link at the top. Draft Yeah, forty eight

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Speaker 1: all your research and have all the names at your

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Speaker 1: fingertips once they're drafted. Yeah. I've had this bounded, is

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Speaker 1: that right? The right word bound? For a long time now.

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Speaker 1: And seriously, when I need some quick hands on information

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Speaker 1: to have and looking at the computer. I just turned

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Speaker 1: to a page and find my guy read, look at names,

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Speaker 1: look at numbers. It's all here right here. If the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com our affetun me for the Star magazine,

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Speaker 1: we did that as well. This one, though, is a

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Speaker 1: around Dallas. But yeah, this would be a good opportunity.

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Speaker 1: This is our guy. Dane Burglar helped us with this.

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Speaker 1: David Hellman was on it, Rob Phillips, you know everybody,

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Speaker 1: Nick Eat and everybody helped with this one too. So

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Speaker 1: if you see it's your local grocer, it's an inexpensive

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Speaker 1: draft guide. If you have the Beast and this, you

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Speaker 1: should be good to go. Okay, David Hellman, you got something.

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Speaker 1: I got a really good one to keep. To start

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Speaker 1: off Twitter on the twenty, I'm gonna put you on

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Speaker 1: the spot a little. Okay, Well, hang on just one second.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank ed Ka Hill for this. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank ed Ka Hill. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: didn't do it last show. I want to thank him

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Speaker 1: for creating this show, and I want to thank him

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Speaker 1: for creating this segment. Call Twitter on the tent take over,

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Speaker 1: David Helman. I got a good one from Roderick because

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Speaker 1: it involves a guy that we talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: in January and February, but he's kind of fallen off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, your big board came out yesterday. You have

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Speaker 1: him twenty fifth. I do, but we haven't really been

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Speaker 1: talking about him as a consideration at twenty eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the last probably month or so. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: fallen off the pace in terms of a guy that

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Speaker 1: we think might be drafted. Yeah. I like him obviously

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Speaker 1: better than I mean, the Cowboys did not bring him

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Speaker 1: in on one of the thirty visits. They brought in

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Speaker 1: a lot of corners, they brought in safeties, they brought

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Speaker 1: in a few defensive ends, but he was not one

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Speaker 1: of the guys. I think, Carl loss. I think the

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Speaker 1: comparison that you made a Brandon Graham, the Florida defensive

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Speaker 1: end who was at the Philadelphia Eagles, is exactly who

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Speaker 1: he is. And I don't know, I mean, some people

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Speaker 1: will not like how short he is they won't like

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Speaker 1: his short arms. Yeah, but you watch him play. He

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Speaker 1: gets after it and I mean gets after it. And

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Speaker 1: I maybe he doesn't have the physical traits that most

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Speaker 1: people like, but I'm willing to bet on him and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he but I don't think they would

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Speaker 1: consider him at twenty eight. And I really really don't

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Speaker 1: you think that's a physical thing. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: physical thing. I really really do. But me, my top

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Speaker 1: fifty is about how I saw the players for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, and like I say, mixing's on there. You

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Speaker 1: know Foster. I kept a lot of guys, Sitney Jones,

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Speaker 1: I kept them where they are just my I look

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Speaker 1: at the tape. That's all I can do. I don't

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Speaker 1: get to go to Alabama and Washington and things and

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Speaker 1: get these character things on these kids. If I do it,

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Speaker 1: I mean he would probably be you know, maybe the

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Speaker 1: board to look different. But I love Lawson. I really

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Speaker 1: really do I have in the first round. I would

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Speaker 1: the team that takes someone draft night, watch me gush

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Speaker 1: about who that ever that is. Stats speak for themselves.

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Speaker 1: The guy that has been the first round pick has

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Speaker 1: visited the facility since twenty thirteen. Yeah, last time he

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Speaker 1: didn't was Mo Mo right, And that was a trade

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Speaker 1: up situation and I was gonna sell. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say it's probably fair to say

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Speaker 1: that if the guy didn't visit. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they like him as much as I do. And that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude and I have the I have cunning

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Speaker 1: him and I talked about cutting him the Vanderbilt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: linebackers being one of my favorite guys. I haven't at

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Speaker 1: number nine, right, That's just how I feel about And

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Speaker 1: this is your board, this is my board. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to, if you if you want to

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Speaker 1: put your together your own board and all that. We

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Speaker 1: all do that and it's kind of fun, you know,

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Speaker 1: So put together board and put it out there and

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Speaker 1: see what happens. I think you're right about the physical thing.

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Speaker 1: Six one and a half one and a half inch arm. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just not gonna be for everybody. And that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean he's a bad player or just he needs the

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Speaker 1: right fit and that's that's okay. I think a good

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Speaker 1: or a team is going to end up with a

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Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, Dane, we mentioned this earlier. Um Alan,

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Speaker 1: he wants to know about Charles Harris and how much

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Speaker 1: is his draft stock really rising right now? There are

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Speaker 1: teams that like him over Derek Barnett. Um Wow, And

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Speaker 1: it just depends on who you talk to and the

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Speaker 1: teams are going to look at things differently. I think

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Speaker 1: behind Myles Garrett, there's no consensus number two pass rusher

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Speaker 1: this year. Some teams like that to be Charles Harris.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Barnett. I've even heard McKinley in there. So

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Speaker 1: it's just it just comes down to team preference at

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Speaker 1: this point. I think if I think if McKinley wasn't hurt,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are shying off McKinley

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Speaker 1: because of the shoulder. But you know, I've I've kind

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Speaker 1: of thought, I've always thought that Charles Harris would be

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Speaker 1: a guy that would be there at twenty eight. And

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Speaker 1: the more I listened to Dane, the more I talk

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Speaker 1: to scouts around the league, the more I feel like

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to be there at twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Right So, you know, because people are having questions about

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Speaker 1: these pass rushers, Dane's absolutely right. This is one guy

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Speaker 1: that has the ability to bend. You know, He's there's

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Speaker 1: some questions about Barnett. I mean, I initially thought of

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Speaker 1: Barnett as a left defensive end, but you watch him

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Speaker 1: play against Alabama, he shows you some right edge rush dip.

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Speaker 1: You'll get around Cam Robinson a couple of times. Barnett's

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Speaker 1: got to be the guy that, like fans hold him

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Speaker 1: in the highest regard and then like the you know,

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Speaker 1: the analysts are like, I don't know about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the same way with scouts and coaches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coaches royal like him, and then the scouts are you know,

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Speaker 1: the testing numbers, and you know, he's just not when

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Speaker 1: you look for. To get him, he probably I need

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Speaker 1: to take him top fifteen and so, which is not

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Speaker 1: really what you look for in a top fifteen pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: But again, quarterback the most important position. Second most important

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Speaker 1: position the guy that can get to the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: press of the pocket, and that's pass rusher. So these

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Speaker 1: pass rushers are gonna go a lot earlier. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: get pushed up. And that's why I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Charles Harris, to me, he's more of a late late one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight, you would you would, you'd love to

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Speaker 1: see again, I've always thought Initially, initially when I was

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Speaker 1: doing this, I thought he was a twenty eight lock

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Speaker 1: or twenty eight spot lock. But now the more you dig,

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Speaker 1: the more you go through the draft. You know, people

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Speaker 1: everybody always say this about ice cream. Everybody has your flavor. Sure,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he is. Former tank commander, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: your service. Yeah, absolutely wants to know what is the

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Speaker 1: minimum you would accept to trade out of the first round?

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Speaker 1: Kind of hard. I'm not giving you what the team,

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Speaker 1: so I can't tell you how far you're trading back. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're two keys to that, obviously, the return what are

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Speaker 1: you getting back? And then how far you're moving back

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Speaker 1: in the second round. So I mean those two things

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Speaker 1: are obviously the what will determine the trade. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: picking up twenty eight. Say you're someone's asking to move

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Speaker 1: back twelve spots and you get an extra third twelve

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Speaker 1: spots on twenty eight And I was numbers that again,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, twelve and twenty eight. Give me the quick math.

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Speaker 1: Thirty it's a pick number forty, pick number forty cents,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, pick number forty s worth five hundred points

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Speaker 1: on their chart. Okay, so you would be going from

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to five six. Your differential is one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty points. Who's who's which is equivalent of a

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Speaker 1: third round pick? Who owns that fortieth pick right now?

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Speaker 1: Who owns the fortieth pick? Right now? I've got my sheets, actually,

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Speaker 1: they're coming together, the fortieth pick right now. And I

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Speaker 1: saw this, it was on the front page. Where'd it go?

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Speaker 1: Where did it go? Where to go? The fortieth pick? Sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're killing me right now because I don't have it

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Speaker 1: right in front of me here I got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: forty picks on by Carolina. I'm sorry, Carolina. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got all my sheets. My draft charts, mow draft

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Speaker 1: charts are being built right now. And Carolina's third round

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Speaker 1: pick is worth Carolina's third round pick is at number

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Speaker 1: ninety eight, and what's that worth? The ninety eight pick

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Speaker 1: on the Cowboy chart would be worth one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eight points. So it's you're still pretty deep, you bet,

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Speaker 1: you know? So you're short, right? Yeah? How much is

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Speaker 1: their fifth Their fifth round pick they own is pick

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Speaker 1: one fifty two. Let's look at the last year's chart

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Speaker 1: and figure that out. Pick one fifty two would be

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Speaker 1: worth thirty one points, and that's a lot closer. So

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Speaker 1: what are you're saying you're gonna take a three to

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Speaker 1: five to go back? I would do it. Yeah, twelve

636
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: spots and I get an extra three and I get

637
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: my five back. Yeah, it's a little scary moving back

638
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: that far. Well, And actually, that's the point I was

639
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna make to you before Brian read the chart, was

640
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I know you can't predict it because you don't know

641
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: how far you're back you're trading. But me personally, if

642
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the first round, I want a third round pick.

643
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: And maybe that's unreasonable, but even if we're only trade,

644
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: if we're trading from twenty eight to thirty three, I

645
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: want a third round pick. And if Cleveland's not okay

646
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: with that, then it was a pleasure talking to you. No, absolutely,

647
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely hundred percent agree. If you're going to move

648
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: out of the first round, a day two pick has

649
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: to be part of it. Yep, absolutely, I agree. So okay,

650
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: let me hear O'Brien stir in the pot. No, no, no, no, no,

651
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to on the Cowboys chart. If you were

652
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: to go to Cleveland at thirty three, just that simple

653
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: move five spots. That's a fourth round pick right there.

654
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: So you guys, that's what I'm saying is it's not

655
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: good enough for me. I want something better. Okay, Cleveland

656
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: holds sixty five. Cleveland hold sixty five, and that's it's

657
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: that's that's two hundred and sixty five right there. And

658
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: I know, I know what one O eight is the

659
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: first pick of the fourth round. So eight you get,

660
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: say it's a But my colleague from Ohio next to me,

661
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: he says, there's no way in heck they're giving up

662
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: that that first pick to start the third day unless

663
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: it's you know, because it's not a typical fourth round pick. Yeah,

664
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: so unless it's. Now, if you look at Cleveland, let

665
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: me just stop you. Right there, Cleveland's got their own pick.

666
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: They got two picks in the second round. They got

667
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: thirty three and fifty two, right they got sixty five

668
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: is a third round pick for the right One oh

669
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: eight is going to fourth first pick of the fourth

670
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: This is where they're gonna have some fun. In the

671
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: fifth round. They go one to forty five, one seventy five,

672
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: one eighty one, and one eighty eight And look this

673
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: is it. The Browns are a young team and they

674
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: can't fit all these guys on the same roster, so

675
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: they they're going to be a little bit active where

676
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: maybe they give up a few of those fifths because

677
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: they can't see That's what I'm saying. I see them

678
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: giving up fifths maybe tomorrow in our mock draft. We

679
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: gotta hope that Cleveland calls us. We gotta hope because

680
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: if we want to get one of our we want

681
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: to get our fifth back. We got to think about

682
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: Arizona having an extra, Buffalo having an extra, Cincinnati having

683
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: an extra, Cleveland having an extra. I'd like to have

684
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: my fifth back at some point in what some Green

685
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Bay has an extra. I would love to have my

686
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: fifth back. But if they're trying to get to twenty eight,

687
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: drink a fifth. If I don't get my fifth undo,

688
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: that probably means that they want a quarterback, whether I mean,

689
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Deshaan Kaiser or whatever. I mean,

690
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: if they're trying to get to twenty eight, it is

691
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: probably for a quarterback. If they would you hold them up.

692
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if you want your quarterback, you're giving

693
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: me sixty five or it's not happening. I'm sorry, And

694
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: if they I mean, and that's what happened in the

695
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys last year. The Cowboys didn't want to give up

696
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: their third and the Broncos did, and the Cowboys didn't

697
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: get packs the lynch and it worked out for them.

698
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: But a minute, a minute upset. Last year. I tried,

699
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: I think two weeks ago, try to get you guys

700
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: to trade back, and it was like you were like

701
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: the guys standing there saying, but you're going for greed

702
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna be real greedy. Yeah, I want picks.

703
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: I want good picks. I don't want your crappy fifth

704
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: round pick. I want sixty five day. I agree. If

705
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Browns say, listen, Browns say we won't give you sixty five,

706
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: and you shoot for one oh eight, which is the

707
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: start of the third day, guy, that would be fun

708
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: start the third day. I love it just because you

709
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: fight on Dak Prescott last show. I mean, you're always no, no,

710
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: no no, But I just know that I love that pick.

711
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: I love seriously. There are teams that try and give

712
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: next year's two to get back in the top of

713
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: that fourth round. Trust me, I know I've fielded calls.

714
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: I know every time. Nope, Nope, nope. Hey Brian, I'll

715
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: see you this summer. Nope. All right, Brian, Yeah we'll

716
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: get together. Nope. You know that's the way it works.

717
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: All right. Let me ask you this, what if they

718
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: what if they said, we're not going to give you

719
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: sixty five, we're not going to give you one o eight,

720
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: but we'll give you one forty five and one seventy five?

721
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Is that a that's a late fourth and a fifth

722
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: or two fifths. That's the you're you're starting to it's

723
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: two fifths you're giving I'm giving up my first round

724
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: pick for two. You're backing up. You're backing up. You're

725
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: backing up to Cleveland spots at thirty three. But they're

726
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: they're not willing to give you sixty five, which you're

727
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: just adamant about. Yeah, they don't want to give you

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: one away. What if they gave you throwing what they

729
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: gave you three fifth round picks for the spot for

730
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: for moving up those moving up that spot, you're taking it.

731
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: See you this summer. Nope, and I hang the phone.

732
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: That's what I do. See the summer web A crafter

733
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: spoil right, can't. I think you need to get a

734
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: little creative because it's sixty five. I think that's a

735
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: pipe dream. I just don't think it'd get in. I don't. Yeah,

736
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I think you're that's fine. I appreciate that being a

737
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: hard butt. I don't know if that works. I'm not

738
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: saying it would. I'm saying that's what I want. And

739
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: otherwise I'm just gonna stand and make my pick. I

740
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: don't expect them to give me sixty five, but that's

741
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: what I want. Gonna throw your pen, I'm just gonna

742
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it very clue. You're gonna hand that

743
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: card in. I'm gonna hand that card in unless you're

744
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: willing to overpay. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying

745
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: they will. Yeah, it's night seeing. Three fives. No, no,

746
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: knives are nice, but i'd love to have them. But no, No,

747
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: you're talking. All right, I'll think about this. You're not

748
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: just talking about the quality of the player, all right.

749
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Think about this extra year we talking about earlier. We're

750
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: going to thirty three. We got thirty three, sixty ninety two,

751
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: one thirty three, one forty five, and say one seventy five. Wait,

752
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: so what are they giving me? Right now? They're gonna try,

753
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: and I'm trying. They're trying to give you the two

754
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: they're trying to They've got four fives. What if they

755
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: gave you one forty five and one seventy five, they

756
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: gave you to move four spots, they're giving you two

757
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: fifth round picks. I'm making I am I'm not changing

758
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: my opinion. I already said what I said. Let me

759
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: tell your picks again. You'd have thirty three sixty ninety two,

760
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: one thirty three, one forty five, one seventy five. I

761
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: still only count three picks in the range where I

762
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: can expect my player to start all right here, and

763
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: that's what I want. Got a scenario for you? Oh wait,

764
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: a minute's some we're gonna answer my question. You're you're

765
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: out doing No, I'm out, I'm out. I'm out about here.

766
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get you to make

767
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: this trade. Okay, I'm cleveland. What about to move up

768
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: to twenty eight? You can have thirty three and sixty five,

769
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: but I want twenty eight and was it ninety nine two?

770
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: So basically you're moving back five spots and then you

771
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: move up ninety two spots. Okay, ninety two on the chart,

772
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: it's worth one thirty two. So I picked thirty three

773
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: sixty and then not again sixty five sixty thirty three,

774
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: thirty three, sixty sixty five, and then not again until

775
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: one thirty five. Yeah or two three. I'm in. I'm

776
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: so in three. What how's it worked? The how's the mathwork? Well,

777
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: you guys, beat somebody right down? Here we go. If

778
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: we're getting the okay, we're going. That's instead of having

779
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: three top one hundred picks, you have three top seventy picks. Basically, yeah, yeah,

780
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: bring Okay. So you're at six to eighty right now,

781
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 1: and you're going to thirty three. That's worth. That's worth.

782
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: So you're six sixty and they're and they're coming at

783
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: you with five eighty. Okay, yeah, right the differential right there. Okay,

784
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: now out what you're asking for is they're sixty five.

785
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: By the way, they hold fifty two as well. They do. Yeah,

786
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: they're not giving that. I can't even go on, don't

787
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: want to be a hard butter about even ask I

788
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: can't even dream of asking for that. Okay, So we

789
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: go back to thirty three. Okay, now we pick up

790
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: they're sixty five, which is worth we said two hundred

791
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: and sixty five points. We're flipping them on the trade

792
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: one or ninety two, right, that's one hundred and thirty three.

793
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: So sixty five at two sixty five and ninety two

794
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: is worth one thirty two. So it's just a little

795
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: short of the what did you say, five eighty, Yeah,

796
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I'd still do it though. Yeah.

797
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: I love you guys. I just like having I just

798
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: want higher picks, that's all I want. But what do

799
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: we say for the start? You don't trade away from

800
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: a good player. So it just killed mock draft. I

801
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: think for tomorrow it depends who's there at twenty eight. Yeah,

802
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, if the right player is there, you

803
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: got to take them. If not, I like you trying

804
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: to be aggressive though. It's the same thing the Broncos

805
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: did to the Cowboys last year and not saying it's

806
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: a reasonable price. I get that it's not, but you're

807
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: in the position to make the calls if the guy

808
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: that they want sitting there. Yeah, there's ways to get creative.

809
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like, like we just did you know, including

810
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: an extra third, and it's just kind of swapping thirds basically, yeah, yeah,

811
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: to move swap spots. You're not really losing the pick

812
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: in the round. You're just swapping spots. You're trying to

813
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: make up the difference for getting the extra for getting

814
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: sixty five, right is what you're trying to do. All right,

815
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: We got way sidetracked right there. Okay, one more question

816
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: that I do want to take some calls again when

817
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: we come back from the break, but we're not gonna

818
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: do the break right yet. But take one more question

819
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: or two, but again, line up the phones eight eight

820
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: eight eight five five two two ninety seven. Be nice

821
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: to Kent and go ahead. Dave Jonah wants to know, um,

822
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: should we be talking more about Marcus Williams as a

823
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: first round on pick. As a first round pick, that

824
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: too high? I don't think. I think. I think that's

825
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: probably too high for him. UTAs safety, yeah, exact, anybody

826
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: YEA a true center field type, I think that's too high.

827
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: He's a visitor here. He is a visitor, is that?

828
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: And we talk. I feel more comfortable with him at

829
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: sixty than I would at twenty eight. But then again,

830
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: when I feel more comfortable with the Dorry Jackson at

831
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight when he's not even my top fifty, but

832
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: neither is I don't believe what UTAs safety is either.

833
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Is this one of those guys and we kind of

834
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: talked about this, Brian is maybe some of these visitors

835
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton comes to minds. I think guys that they

836
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: brought in to cover their bases in case back they

837
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: don't pick at twenty eight. Yeah, that's what I think.

838
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, Curtis Samuel exactly. So maybe would you take

839
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams in that thirty three to forty range? I'm

840
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: still just about to have a heart attack, So say

841
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: you do that? Is that pushed by Jones? Is strong,

842
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: interchangeable guys? Well, I see, I don't think Marcus Williams

843
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: is an energy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think

844
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: that to me, that's why Desmond King makes sense. Yeah,

845
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: so why Desmond give me? Desmond King is closer what

846
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Byron Jones is than William Williams is a good free

847
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: and if you're playing single high, if that's what they're

848
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna do, by all means, but God or what it's worth.

849
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: I feel like Byron could play more of a strong

850
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: like box. Oh sure he could, Yeah, sure he could.

851
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to be the free And

852
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: you could also in nickel situations sub packages put three

853
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: safeties out there. Let the exactly Byron Jones can play

854
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: the nickel Marcus Williams of the free, I mean he

855
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: can be creative. You'd be very creative with that one more. Um, yeah,

856
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: well you kind of mentioned it already, and so that's

857
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: appreciate all the questions. By the way, folks, Michael a door.

858
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Michael wants to know about a door sleeper. He does

859
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: he qualify as a sleep Oh no, I don't think so.

860
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: But you know what, I think that he's a guy

861
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: that really really in the conversation at twenty eight thirty

862
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: thirty one and three eight's arms. I believe on him

863
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: because we talk about Yeah, because we talk about height

864
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: with McClay, but it's about one thirty one three eight's arms,

865
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: so not short arm button. I mean for a guy

866
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: that's five tens. Yeah, he's he's dragging it pretty good.

867
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's not in your top fifty. No,

868
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: and you think he is a real consideration for this

869
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: team though it's the players I like he's outside the fifty. Yeah, they'll.

870
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: They will take him before I would take him. Yeah,

871
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: they will. I'm here, you know, and that's okay because

872
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here doing radio and having fun talking about

873
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: these guys. You know what bothers me. But I don't

874
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. No, you know what you're doing.

875
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: We do a pretty good job with this. Yeah, I

876
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: it bothers me that part of the reason you might

877
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: take him is his return abilities, right, But with these guys,

878
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: he said, sub package stuff too. Yeah, when you talk

879
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: about about putting corners out there, I think these guys

880
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: would do that. I don't think they would put their

881
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: twenty their first round pick out there as a kick

882
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: and punt return. I think they almost had twenty eighth,

883
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: but it sounded better as a first rounder. Yeah, twenty eight.

884
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this though, and I think you

885
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: they don't even let Dez do that. Oh wait a minute,

886
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: you tweeted this last night. And by the way, DP Bruger,

887
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: great follow did you tweet If they didn't do that,

888
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: that would be a mistake. Anybody that takes him, that

889
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: doesn't use him in that lucky Whitehead offense. Yeah, I

890
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: mean give him some Tyreek Hill type of touches. Sure

891
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: he's explosive, you worry about him getting hurt. Sure, but

892
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the value of taking him

893
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Are these guys? These guys aren't

894
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Speaker 1: fun like this coaching staff, They're not fun. They're not

895
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton creative. Yeah, they're they're like, they're just very

896
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Speaker 1: by the book, like every it's very riggid here, like

897
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Speaker 1: not fun. Well, yeah, I'll say this. There's a reason

898
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Speaker 1: I'm been mocked Ridget or rigget. I think it's I

899
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Speaker 1: don't know whatever, you know what, But I actually correct you.

900
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: I think it's rigged. Okay, I'm pretty sure you're way

901
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Speaker 1: better read than I've been mocking A Dory Jackson the Cowboys.

902
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: Did you did in the magazine? Yeah? Exactly. I mean

903
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: I think that here you're gonna be right here. There's

904
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: one of a handful of players that I think the

905
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: most likely. Yeah, Tom, who's the guy that's got the

906
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: least amount of problems that might when it come down

907
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: to I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's part of

908
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: why you're picking picking at twenty eight. Yeah, does that

909
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: guy qualify with any of these guys, I mean, because

910
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: they're all gonna have some something. Yeah, that's why they're

911
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: available at twenty eight. Good point, all right, anyway, thanks

912
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Speaker 1: to all the people that ask questions out there. We

913
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Okay, coming back, I am hopeful that you

914
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916
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917
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you taking a call and love the show, love

996
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Speaker 1: the information, guys. Give out. Hey, I want a pass Russian.

997
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't want a defensive back. I understand need, but

998
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: I want a pass Russian. So I don't want to

999
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: move back. If anything, I'd like to move up. Okay,

1000
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: I would like someone that's going to get us to

1001
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: the sacks again year at least minimum, not like you know,

1002
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: I personally consider the Marcus Lawrence. He's almost on that

1003
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: bust line. He has nine sacks his home career, So

1004
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: we need somebody that's gonna get that in the season.

1005
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: So Riddick maybe maybe what you know, would you all

1006
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: consider any of those at twenty eight or would you

1007
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Speaker 1: consider moving up to get somebody like Riddick? And how

1008
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: much does pedigree come into looking at a prospect. You know,

1009
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: you have someone like Matthews, Clay Matthews he has a

1010
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: great lineage. You know, his brothers, fathers, all this play

1011
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: someone like J. J. Watt brothers, you know, two brothers

1012
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Speaker 1: in and of course Watt is amazing. So how much

1013
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: does that play in in scouting someone? All right, thank you, Hoores,

1014
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. He wants to go up, Well, he

1015
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: wants someone that's going to be a minimum ten sacks,

1016
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: and hey, I agree. But yeah, yeah, that's when you

1017
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: want the tax to right, Yeah, that's when I need that.

1018
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: I need that Barnett tag. I mean there's people that

1019
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: think that Barnett might have more more sacks than say

1020
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: a guy at A and M. Barnett's a guy here's

1021
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: and he had Reggie White's number double digit sacks at Tennessee.

1022
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little it's I don't disagree with

1023
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: anything Horse just said. Really, but the problem is if

1024
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: you're trading up in the first round, Yeah, you're either

1025
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: getting you're getting rid of a premium pick you are getting,

1026
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: whether it's sixty or ninety two, or if you want

1027
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of next year's first which sounds terrible.

1028
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: I hate that. I am I get and you gotta

1029
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: going to just give me an example going to Oakland

1030
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: even at twenty four or four spots gonna cost you

1031
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: a third. Think about that. That's I mean, that's that's

1032
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: what you But maybe it's what you have to do

1033
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: if if if you, if you don't want to have

1034
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: the chaos at twenty eight. Here's fortune favors the bolt.

1035
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: Here's my counter argument, which is even at twenty four,

1036
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: like that that ten sack of year guys probably gone

1037
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: by like ten to fifteen. I meant to pend that's fair,

1038
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: too fair, So forget that. Basically, No, I was just

1039
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: trying to go up a little bit. On top of that,

1040
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: you need to come out of this draft with at

1041
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: least one, if not two, defensive backs who have the

1042
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: potential to contribute right away. Sure, and getting rid of

1043
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: premium picks is not the way it would gotta be.

1044
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: Got to be aware though, of teams wanting to bail

1045
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Speaker 1: and you know, and like just wanting to bail so

1046
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Speaker 1: badly that they're willing to sell their picks short. I

1047
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: talked about that on the round. Well, the Cowboys did that,

1048
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Speaker 1: and I mean, hey, they found the best center in football,

1049
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Speaker 1: so all credit to them, but they they gave up

1050
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: a third. They left a third round pick on the table.

1051
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: They drastically they got fleeced by the forty nine trade. Sure,

1052
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: they gave up, they had one third round pick to

1053
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: move back fourteen spots. That is unbelievable to me to

1054
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, so, I mean, crazier things have happened. Okay,

1055
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: I guess. But yeah, when you know you're getting an

1056
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: All Pro center, I think you're good and that. Of

1057
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: course it's funny. Nobody's complaining for five years later, but

1058
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: at the time was no. There were some serious concerns

1059
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: about friend. We need to I think we need to

1060
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: have perspective to whoever they get at twenty eight. It's

1061
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: just unrealistic to think that SA guy. Yeah, especially as

1062
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: rookie or even in year two. You know, it's just

1063
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: maybe they can eventually develop into that was the one Troy,

1064
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: but he was a top ten javon curse verse. Yeah,

1065
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: he was a mid first rounder so, but he wasn't

1066
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: a light first round. It's not realistic to think you're

1067
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: going to get a double digit sack guy at twenty eight. Yeah,

1068
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: and that's I'm sorry, Well, no, I say early in

1069
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: his career especially, but even throughout his whole career. That's

1070
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: kind of been my argument, my personal argument, I think

1071
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would rather have a pass rusher at twenty eight.

1072
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a dB because I just I don't

1073
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: know how much the twenty eighth overall pick is going

1074
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: to do to revamp your pass rush right away, whereas

1075
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: you can make some serious strides with your secondary with

1076
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: the right picks. Real quick, Adam Schefter just tweeted this,

1077
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft picks have been selected as seventeen combined, seventeen

1078
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: more Row bowls than any other teams has two thousand

1079
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, so let's say cow was a done

1080
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: okay draft? Yeah, give them gives them some credit for

1081
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: that for sure, because when I was there, we were

1082
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: not very good. So we're making up for it. We'd

1083
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: use a few more playoff wins. Absolutely, that help. Okay, Kit,

1084
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: you gotta in Dallas, Joe, go ahead, what do you

1085
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: got hey, guys, I'm assuming we are running back at

1086
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: cornerback in the first two rounds, so I want to

1087
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: focus on our third round pick, specifically, we addressed our

1088
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: safety position. Joe, real quick, did you say running back?

1089
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: Did you say running back first? I'm so sorry, I'm

1090
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: so sorry, no, I mean defensive end. Okay, go ahead.

1091
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Now now we're going back. All right, now we're good,

1092
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: let's roll. Yeah, we're going I'm so sorry. No, no,

1093
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: We're get the third round. Okay, go ahead, say so,

1094
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm assuming let's just assume we address our safety position

1095
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: in that third round. Gotch, what guys are you looking

1096
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: at not just based on grade, but scheme fit for

1097
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: the type of defense that we are going to need

1098
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: for that strong safety type. And I have the names

1099
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Josh Jones, Eddie Jack, Yeah, Justin Evans A, Xavier Woods.

1100
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: I like them all. Who do you guys like for us?

1101
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Joe, good question, Really appreciate you. And

1102
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: he goes. Last two that he mentioned are the key

1103
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: ones there to watch? Xavier Woods and uh Justin Evans. Yeah,

1104
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: both those guys both visit. Yeah, both visit. Yeah, they've

1105
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: show an interest in both. Jones go higher than the

1106
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: third you think North Carolina State Jones, Josh Jones, Josh Jones, Yeah, yeah,

1107
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: see yeah, he's thinking he's stinking ninety two. Yeah, and

1108
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: I think even safety's any mentioned might yeah, Michael a

1109
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: little b. Xavier Woods might not last that long. Justin

1110
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: Evans might not last off, so you know, you kind

1111
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: of cross your fingers that one might be there. But

1112
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: I think those are the names to know. It's it's

1113
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: tough when you're picking Laton around, like yeah, but those

1114
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: are definitely the names to know that could be a fit. Here. Guys,

1115
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: that Fedrick Thompson. That was a guy I know, I know,

1116
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: we we that was a tell me more a couple

1117
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He was a visit too, and and

1118
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: Dane and I were not jumping up and down about him,

1119
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: but there was a name sounds rich. It is rich

1120
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: one thirty and I know y'all don't really like him,

1121
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: but like I would draft him at one thirty three.

1122
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: Probably is that what you think you'd have to drafting

1123
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: there to get him? Probably? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

1124
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: that's sixth round, Greade. What do we What do y'all

1125
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: think about? I'm with you on that. The guy I'm

1126
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: in the fifth? What do y'all y'all are off on? Jackson?

1127
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: Not fans ed Jackson? He's he's really tough. Because you

1128
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: talk about flash plays, he made a lot of them.

1129
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: It reminds me so much. And this is gonna sound

1130
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: so crazy. It reminds me when we watched Ed Reid. God, okay,

1131
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: no no safety ever, no, no, no, no. And this

1132
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: is why because if you watched Ed Reid play at Miami,

1133
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: remember I tell you guys the story how he was

1134
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: completely off the screen. Yeah, and then he gets to

1135
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Miami and it's gonna get to Balltimard. He's like the

1136
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: second coming of what a Hall of Fame guy. And

1137
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: that's and rightfully so. But he was a really, really

1138
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: hard evaluator because it a heart evaluation because it's always

1139
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, somebody at Alabama is going to rally to

1140
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: the ball and get the guy down, right, So by

1141
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: the time he gets to the ball, balls down. Yeah,

1142
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: So he's never you never see him in a bunch

1143
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: of tackles because there's some linebacker or some defensive end

1144
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: or some cornerback making a tackle before he gets to

1145
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: the play. And that's the tough thing with Eddie Jackson

1146
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: is that's a tough evaluation. Talers see him in there, right,

1147
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: the talent around him. How much did that help him

1148
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: make those interceptions? Yeah, not have to make some of

1149
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: those plays and run support a factor in his durability.

1150
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: It has not been, has not been a good things.

1151
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: He's been banged up over over the last two years.

1152
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Former corner moved to safety. I get it, there are

1153
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: things that I like about him, but I'm not touching

1154
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: him until Day three. Yeah, all right, Kim, Michael and

1155
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: San Antonio go ahead. Hey, guys, does the news breakout

1156
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: yesterday of Jalen Smith's progress influenced this draft to where

1157
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: maybe we don't need a linebacker in those top one hundreds.

1158
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: And my second question is, I'm gonna make a bold prediction.

1159
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the Cowboys are going to move

1160
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: into the late fifth or at least sixth round to

1161
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: trade and select quarterback Chad Kelly. Tell me if that's

1162
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: a bad pick or a good pick. There. Thanks, guys.

1163
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: I not to pat myself on the back. I'm regardless

1164
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: of what we're hearing about Jaylen Smith. I never thought

1165
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: linebacker was like a huge priority in this draft. Just

1166
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: because you've obviously got Sean Lee, they're gonna they're gonna

1167
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: give Jaalen Smith a chance to prove them right or

1168
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: wrong before they try to draft his replacement. And the

1169
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 1: fact that he's wiggling his toes, which is the news

1170
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: that Michael was talking about Yeah, that only in further

1171
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: enforces what they already thought. And on top of that,

1172
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, Damian Wilson has shown some promise. He looked

1173
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: pretty good sam linebacker and farterback, and Anthony Hitchins is serviceable.

1174
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I don't see it as being something. And

1175
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I think they've drafted a linebacker every year going back

1176
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: to like oh eight, so I get that they just

1177
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: do that anyway, I can't see him doing that until

1178
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: like day three. I don't think they would do it

1179
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: with a premium pick if at all. Yeah, I would disagree.

1180
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I think the news again, the whole news about Jalen

1181
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Smith is let's just get him out there playing. Let's

1182
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: see him, Let's see him put on a gear, Let's

1183
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: see him take on blocks, Let's see him be effective

1184
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: and doing all that. And once that's the case, then

1185
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: I think everything's fine. But there's there's still a lot

1186
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: of things that have to a lot of a lot

1187
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: of bridges that have to be crossed before they get

1188
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: to that point. But at least the news is somewhat encouraging. Yeah,

1189
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: Chad Kelly, late boy, I'll tell you what. If you're

1190
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy who's no baggage. Let me see

1191
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: the scheme fit though, scheme fit for what Dallas is

1192
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: trying to do with the read the readopt the way

1193
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: the scheme, the read option stuff, the you know, throwing

1194
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: the football down the field a little bit. Yeah, and

1195
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean throwing underneath stuff. He's athletic enough, you can

1196
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff. But do you want that

1197
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: type of personality in your quarterback room with your young

1198
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: cored Not that Dak Prescott would be easily influenced, yeah,

1199
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: nothing like that, But still, do you want that type

1200
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: of type of guy with those character questions in your

1201
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: quarterback room with another young quarterback? It's not something that

1202
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: I think I would avoid that. Yeah, if I were

1203
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Yeah, and I don't think you trade up

1204
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: for a guy like that, or you know, you don't.

1205
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: If he's there in the seventh maybe you take a shot.

1206
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: But you know it's I don't like it for this team.

1207
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but I do think they will add one. Yeah,

1208
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: I do too. Thanks Stephen Jones. Yeah, I think Stephen

1209
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: Jones is pretty adamant about that. All right, Well, that's

1210
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: all the time we have for today. Tomorrow tomorrow we

1211
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: got again, same time, eleven am Central. We're gonna hit

1212
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: a seven round mock draft and we're gonna have all

1213
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: the bells and whistles. We're gonna try and figure this

1214
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: thing out. It's just not gonna be picked players. We're

1215
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna talk about why we picked the players, and you know,

1216
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: if we have opportunities to move up, move back, we're

1217
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna have some fun with it. So for my buddy

1218
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar, David Hellman for Kent Garrison, Brian brought us.

1219
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Derek Eagleton, Taylor Stern for he's pushing

1220
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: our stuff out, and ed Ka Hill for creating the show.

1221
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: And we'll see you tomorrow. Take care of This has

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