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Speaker 1: podcast Network. Let's roll. Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official

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Speaker 1: bank of the Giants. John Schmelk with you big show

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Speaker 1: coming your way today. I like the interview with Darius Muissau.

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Speaker 1: He'll be the Giants starter at linebacker this week alongside

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Speaker 1: Mike and McFadden. Great talk about his development this season.

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Speaker 1: Just really nice kid. I enjoyed my conversation with him

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Speaker 1: almost twenty minutes, So that comes up first. Then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna Garrett Downing, who's the digital reporter for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff previewing them. And then Bob Papa with head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. Should be a fun show.

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Speaker 1: Let's get started with Darius Muissau. Now we're joined by

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Speaker 1: Giants starting linebacker Darius Mussou. Darius, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, dude, So extra lecture store. I know

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Speaker 1: you've played this year, but not that many snaps. So

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Speaker 1: what was it like waking up Monday and Tuesday after

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Speaker 1: that game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tough one. It feels like I

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Speaker 2: got back to playing ball again. Got a few snaps

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Speaker 2: on defense, like you said, Uh, but yeah, body was sore.

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Speaker 2: That was a physical game. A lot of run run

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Speaker 2: defense in that, a lot of snaps of run having

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Speaker 2: Carr and folks. But uh, well, yeah it was. It

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Speaker 2: was a great experience. Uh, second games starting for me,

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Speaker 2: So that was a I'm learning a lot here, learning

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Speaker 2: learning and just soaking in all the knowledge from them.

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Speaker 1: So when you sat down and rewatched the game on Monday,

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Speaker 1: what did you see? What you think of your performance?

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of areas improvement. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, being my second game starting, you know, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of difference from you know, from college to

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Speaker 2: the league. First of all, like those linemen are huge,

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Speaker 2: That's the That's the first thing that I noticed going

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Speaker 2: because they're big. You know, they're they're strong, they can

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Speaker 2: too yes, and they're moving to they're they're pulling, they're

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Speaker 2: unless like dang, they're climbing up to us real fast.

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Speaker 2: And then also like once they get your class on you,

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Speaker 2: like that's game over at that point. So just you know,

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Speaker 2: just learning different techniques and fundamentals to utilize my hands

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Speaker 2: and shed blocks is what I've you know, been focusing

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Speaker 1: How important is actually utilizing all that stuff you've practiced

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Speaker 1: then just as a player, you kind of have to

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Speaker 1: there any replacement for real time reps to learn those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's hard to replicate you know, guys that

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Speaker 2: it's hard to replicate the the Derrick Henry's, the Lamar Jackson's,

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Speaker 2: I said, usually comes out victorious. And that's one thing

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Speaker 1: You'll get that this week too.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, we'll get that number forty two on the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So former offensive lineman, another huge guy that.

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Speaker 2: right there. But uh yeah, looking forward to this matchup.

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Speaker 1: How were you guys able to stop the run? So well?

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Speaker 1: You just talked about some of the challenges, right, the

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I think you guys stopped the run. The

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Speaker 1: So why were we able to do so well against

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was more so our d linemen

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Speaker 2: Yes, guys, we barely played with like we had Eliza Chapman, Garcia, Jordan, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the run defense. I was gonna ask

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Speaker 1: how'd you make up for the lack of veteran leadership

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Speaker 1: So how did you try to step up, help Micah,

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Speaker 2: I just you know, I let Michael mayfat and take

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Speaker 2: You know, Micah kind of took a big step forward

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just backing him up whatever he does.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm following his steps. And so, like I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm always learning. I'm a student of the game and

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Speaker 2: I love, you know, playing the game the right way

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Speaker 2: and I feel like Michael does exactly that, and so

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm learning a lot just trying to be

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting out of my comfort zone

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Speaker 2: having to be one of those guys that you know,

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Speaker 1: What's been from a mental perspective, the toughest part of

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Speaker 1: quick right mentally, what's been the toughest adjustment jumping from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those playbooks are no joker, and especially you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm having to know both you know, the mic and

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Speaker 2: and there's so much different things that could happen that

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I got to imagine too, the way NFL offenses

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Speaker 1: a difference too from the pros to college where you

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Speaker 1: really see the way they target certain position groups here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, yeah, that is a big thing.

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Speaker 2: But I want to say it's too foreign for me

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Speaker 2: because in college, I mean I played I played Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: I played bow Nicks, I play the Yeah, the Michael

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Speaker 2: going up against all those guys, and that's honestly, like

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Speaker 1: Offenses there Washington especially, they ran.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly. So it wasn't really too much of a

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Speaker 2: the misdirections, all the shifts, emotions, trying to isolate the

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Speaker 2: take them vertical, yes, exactly. And then the quarterbacks are

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Speaker 2: that's kind of one thing I've been honing on is

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Speaker 2: just trying to you know, limit those those mismatches as

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Speaker 2: try to instead of seeing it as a mismatch kind

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Speaker 2: the middle of the field. Don't let anyone come in

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Speaker 2: and invade your home. That's kind of how I think

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Speaker 1: Where have you think seen the most improvement of your

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that is a big challenge that I

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Speaker 1: And then the areas that you think you've gotten the

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the two matches Specifically, Lamar hasn't

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Speaker 1: Hope you have some help too, Yes, you.

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Speaker 1: Aside from Henry, is there just a different level of

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Speaker 1: Final question, Have you bought the first winter coat of

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Speaker 2: It's a nice fur one, all tucked inside his off

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Speaker 1: Now. Have you gotten used to it yet? The cold

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing was huge too.

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Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you very much. Good luck on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: report with their digital reporter Garrett Downing. All right, and

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Speaker 1: now we're joined by Garrett Downing. He is the digital

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Speaker 1: host for the Baltimore Ravens Front of the program. Garrett,

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, man, How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm great. I always going to talk with you. Usually

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Speaker 3: we're having these conversations at the combine, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: fun to have a Giants Ravens game on the schedule

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Speaker 3: this year and get a chance to catch up and

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Speaker 3: talk a little football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll have those conversations in just about a

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Speaker 1: month and a half in Indianapolis, which will be on

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Speaker 1: there about two and a half months. Actually, let's start here.

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Speaker 1: The Giants and Ravens played two years ago, and the

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Speaker 1: Giants upset the Ravens in that game. How many questions

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Speaker 1: haven't they been about that matchup in the locker room

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Speaker 1: when you've spoken to the players this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely a sense I think that from a

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Speaker 3: big picture standpoint when you look at this game, yet

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Speaker 3: you have two teams that you know, the Ravens are

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Speaker 3: gearing up here for a playoff race, and obviously the

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Speaker 3: Giants have had kind of a tough year and different records.

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Speaker 3: But so to your point, there's a lot of elements

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Speaker 3: of that that I think from the Ravens perspective, don't

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Speaker 3: really matter in the sense that the Giants, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: upset the Ravens two years ago in a game that

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens were favored to win, right, And

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Speaker 3: so the Ravens all week have been saying this is

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Speaker 3: we cannot overlook anybody. They're coming off this bye week,

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Speaker 3: they just lost to the Eagles last week. The Ravens

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Speaker 3: are in the middle of a playoff race, still alive

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Speaker 3: in the division race, feeling like they need to win

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Speaker 3: all four of these games to close out the regular season.

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Speaker 3: And also Kyle Hamilton and Ravens safety made the point

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Speaker 3: this week. He said, well, we kind of been down

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Speaker 3: this road before. Earlier this year. The Ravens were favored

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Speaker 3: against the Vegas Raiders in the home opener the second

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Speaker 3: week of the season, and the Ravens dropped that game,

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Speaker 3: so they feel like the records throw them out, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: They need to focus on playing their best football. And

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Speaker 3: that's really kind of been the talking point. And so

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of different elements of that, one of

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Speaker 3: which was, of course the game that you mentioned two

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Speaker 3: years ago between these two teams.

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Speaker 1: And late bye. What has that been like with the

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Speaker 1: late by, what the players said about it? And how

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Speaker 1: healthy are the Ravens because it seems like you are

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Speaker 1: pretty healthy coming off that late bye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens are healthy, actually, and that's a good

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Speaker 3: thing for this team. They're pretty much at full strength

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Speaker 3: and they could actually get a couple of guys back

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Speaker 3: this week, which would be a good good thing, especially

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Speaker 3: for this defense. Kyle van Noy, veteran linebacker, This guy

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Speaker 3: who could come back. Michael Pierce, a veteran defensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: could come back. So the Ravens are healthy coming off

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Speaker 3: the bye. It was late this team. The Ravens started early.

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Speaker 3: They played the first game of the season against the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs on that Thursday night opener, so they arrived at

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Speaker 3: training camp before anybody else. Then they had this long

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Speaker 3: stretch leading up to the bye. So I think that

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Speaker 3: this team really needed the bye last week. It was

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Speaker 3: kind of a reset physically and mentally coming off a

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Speaker 3: tough game against the Eagles, so it was a much

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Speaker 3: needed buy. The other part of it, too for the

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Speaker 3: Ravens is on the back end of this stretch, the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are going into a stretch here where they're going

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Speaker 3: to play three games over the course of eleven games.

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Speaker 3: There are eleven days because they play on Christmas Day

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Speaker 3: against the Texans, and they play on a Saturday leading

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Speaker 3: into that against the Steelers, so they go Giants, then

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Speaker 3: Steelers on a Saturday, Texans on a Wednesday on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: So they've got three games here in eleven days starting

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Speaker 3: with this stretch. So you definitely needed the buy going

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Speaker 3: into that stretch. So I do think that they're physically

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Speaker 3: in a pretty good place coming off of the bye week,

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Speaker 3: but they also know they've got a tough stretch here

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Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 1: Anyone that's a serious part of their plans on offense

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Speaker 1: or defense that might not end up playing in this game.

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Speaker 3: It seems like they're healthy. I mean, it seems like

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Speaker 3: there's no real big question marks coming into this game.

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Speaker 3: You look at the injury report and there's not like

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Speaker 3: a massive lingering question coming into the game. So the

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Speaker 3: Giants injury report, where you look at them side by side,

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Speaker 3: you're just got like fifteen guys on there, and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are pretty good shape. So it's nice to be

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Speaker 3: on that side of the spectrum. The Ravens have been

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Speaker 3: on the other side of it before at times over

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Speaker 3: the year, so it's nice to be on the positive

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Speaker 3: end thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think on Monday the Giants are over twenty on

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Speaker 1: the injury award.

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Speaker 3: So I just kept looking at scrolling.

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Speaker 1: It's been one of those years.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, it just goes that way sometimes. So I

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Speaker 1: could attack a bunch of really great strengths on your offense.

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Speaker 1: We know great Lamar is, how great Derek Henry is.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. For an offense that

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Speaker 1: historically is one of the best the NFL has ever seen,

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Speaker 1: is there a weakness on this offense? Is there a

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Speaker 1: chink in the armor somewhere that the Giants could try

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Speaker 1: to exploit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the Ravens offenses it's really really good.

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Speaker 3: It's sound across the board. The big question coming into

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Speaker 3: the year was the offensive line. They had to replace

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Speaker 3: three starters from last year. But they've done a really

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Speaker 3: good job and they've basically maintained this starting five on

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Speaker 3: the along the offensive line since early in the season,

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Speaker 3: and so there was like all these questions coming in

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Speaker 3: and then the offensive line has been really solid. Derrek Henry,

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Speaker 3: of course, is second in the league and rushing and

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Speaker 3: leads a league in touchdowns. And the phrase around here

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Speaker 3: with this offense has been picked your poison, because it

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Speaker 3: could be Lamar Henry. You have Zay Flowers who's closing

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Speaker 3: in on a thousand yards. You have Mark Andrews, who's

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Speaker 3: closing in on the franchise record in total touchdowns. So

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Speaker 3: you have all these different weapons and I think that

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Speaker 3: I think this offense is excellent and there's just so

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Speaker 3: many different ways that they can attack teams. I think

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Speaker 3: that where they got into trouble against when they've lost

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Speaker 3: some games this year, it's been when they've lost the

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Speaker 3: battle upfront, which is probably like the old school football thing.

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Speaker 3: If you lose the battle of the trenches, you're going

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Speaker 3: to lose the game. But the offensive line, it's just

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Speaker 3: interesting that there was so much here in Baltimore questions

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Speaker 3: and concerns going into the season about the old line

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Speaker 3: and then it really solidified and it has been solid.

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Speaker 3: But I still think that's if the Ravens struggle offensively.

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Speaker 3: It's often you could probably say this for all thirty

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Speaker 3: two teams in the league. If you struggle at winning

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Speaker 3: the battle up front, then you could have a tough

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Speaker 3: time winning the game. And I think that a lot

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Speaker 3: of times it just comes down to that taking care

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Speaker 3: of business upfront in the trenches, and that's always a

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Speaker 3: focus for this team in this offense.

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Speaker 1: You know, Gay, you've been there since Lamar arrived in Baltimore?

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Speaker 1: Is this peak passing game Lamar in year two with

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Speaker 1: Todd Monkin? Is this where everyone thought Lamar could get

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Speaker 1: one day and now he's finally there with all the

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Speaker 1: explosive plays you guys are generating in the pass game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: I think this is as good as he's been. I

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Speaker 3: think the passing game has gone to another level, part

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Speaker 3: of us having more weapons, like say Flowers into second year,

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Speaker 3: it's a first round pick who's really blossomed and he

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Speaker 3: is closing in. Like I said on one thousand Yards,

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Speaker 3: Rashaan Bateman is another former first round pick. He's the

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Speaker 3: team's number two receiver who has dealt with injuries in

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Speaker 3: his career, but he's found a nice niche in this offense.

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Speaker 3: And then of course you add Derek Hennery that can

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Speaker 3: just take so much pressure off a passing game and

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Speaker 3: open play action and all this stuff. So I think

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Speaker 3: all those things come together. Second year of offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: Todd Monkin, who's a great offensive mind, and it's been

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Speaker 3: a lot of different places, but man like, he's so impressive.

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Speaker 3: Before he got here to Baltimore, he won two national

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Speaker 3: championships and back to back years see at Georgia. Then

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Speaker 3: comes back to the NFL and has been awesome for

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Speaker 3: Lamar in this passing game, in this offense overall. So

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Speaker 3: I actually think, like when you look at the numbers overall,

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Speaker 3: I think that you can make the case of this

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Speaker 3: is the best season of Lamar's career and he's been

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Speaker 3: a two time MVP, and we'll see how the final

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Speaker 3: four games play out. He could he could be a

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Speaker 3: three time MVP. Obviously, Josh Allen is leading the way

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Speaker 3: probably in that conversation or Saequon Barkley, but like Lamar

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Speaker 3: is right there and I think that again, you can

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Speaker 3: make the case of this is the best season of

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Speaker 3: his career and his like one thing and you'll see

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Speaker 3: it John on Sunday. He just has such a mastery

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Speaker 3: of the offense, which is probably what comes with time,

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Speaker 3: and he's making checks to the line of scrimmage. He's

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Speaker 3: really in command of the system. T When he was

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Speaker 3: a younger player, there wasn't as much that he didn't

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Speaker 3: have the keys to the offense the same way that

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Speaker 3: he does now. And so he's taken full command of

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Speaker 3: this offense and he's really blossomed, and this whole thing

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Speaker 3: is of course centered around him, and he's he's playing

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Speaker 3: at such a high.

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Speaker 1: Level, final one on the offense. And we've heard a

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Speaker 1: lot about them trying to run it with Lamar Moore

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Speaker 1: or Lamar being asked to run it more. Is that

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Speaker 1: a real thing or is that just like a Lamar's

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Speaker 1: mom and fan thing, or should we expect to see

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Speaker 1: Lamar a bigger part of the run game designed or otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the backstory there is after the game against

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Speaker 3: the Eagles, Lamar cane to the podium and someone asked him,

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Speaker 3: I felt like you had some lanes to run more?

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Speaker 3: Should you have taken off? Run more? And he said,

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Speaker 3: I actually just got off the phone with my mom

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Speaker 3: and she cussed me out because she said the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And so it's kind of a funny moment of your

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Speaker 3: mom knows best, and certainly Lamar takes guidance from his mom,

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Speaker 3: as anybody does. And I think that like that narrative,

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Speaker 3: I do think has been a little bit overplayed. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that we're gonna see the running attempts. It's

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Speaker 3: like this pendulum here in Baltimore with Lamar. Early in

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Speaker 3: his career, it was like you should pass more. You're

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Speaker 3: running so much, you could get hurt all these things,

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Speaker 3: and now it's like, now you should run more. And

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Speaker 3: so I think that I think he does a really

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Speaker 3: great job of the decision making on that front. And

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Speaker 3: one thing that he's always said, like when he runs,

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Speaker 3: especially on a scramble, he's running to try to score.

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Speaker 3: He's not running to try to get three yards, and

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Speaker 3: so he's looking for the big plays with his feet.

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Speaker 3: And he's also now I think, really more running to

653
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Speaker 3: keep a play alive, to then look down the field

654
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Speaker 3: and then try to throw it where Earlier in his career,

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Speaker 3: he would run and just take off a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think we're going to see this big

657
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Speaker 3: uptick in his rushing attempts called or scramble plays. I

658
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Speaker 3: just don't know that that's the way that the Ravens

659
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Speaker 3: like their offense. We just talked about how there's been

660
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Speaker 3: this evolution in the passing game is so much more proficient,

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Speaker 3: and you have Jeric Henry, they have all these weapons.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that Lamar needs to run as

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Speaker 3: much as he did earlier in his career, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think that that's going to be more of a

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Speaker 3: focus than it has been at any point of the season.

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Speaker 1: You look at the numbers last couple of games, look

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Speaker 1: like there's been some improvement. Where have you seen the

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Speaker 1: progress and have you seen a lot of progress from

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Speaker 1: this defense on their new defense, Quinner zach Or as

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Speaker 1: the season has gone along.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Earlier this year, the Ravens were giving up way

672
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Speaker 3: too many big players over the top, and they were

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Speaker 3: the last ranked team in the league from a passing

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Speaker 3: defense standpoint, And that was kind of shocking because like

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Speaker 3: you looked at the players and you've got some Pro

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Speaker 3: bowlers and You've got some all pros in the secondary

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Speaker 3: of Marlin Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton, and you're like, what's going

678
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Speaker 3: on here? And the Ravens made some personnel changes in

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Speaker 3: their secondary, so they shifted things around there and I

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Speaker 3: think that that has really helped. And I also think

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Speaker 3: that they've cleaned up some communication and some Basically it's

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Speaker 3: been personnel and communication and they're not giving up the

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Speaker 3: big players over the top and they're so they're keeping

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Speaker 3: things in front of them and the secondary is playing

685
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Speaker 3: at such a higher level. So it's it was really

686
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Speaker 3: interesting because if you like, against the Bengals in Week ten,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens won that game, but Burrow and Shape went off.

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Speaker 3: They had a monster game on that Thursday night football game,

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Speaker 3: and then the Ravens made some adjustments and it's Steelers

690
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Speaker 3: Chargers Eagles since then for the Ravens, and the defense

691
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Speaker 3: over the course of those three games has been really solid.

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Speaker 3: So it seems like they've turned a corner. Like anything else,

693
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Speaker 3: the question is like can you sustain it? And it

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Speaker 3: seems like the defense is headed in the right direction,

695
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Speaker 3: but they like they definitely had some issues earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting in this game. Obviously the you know,

697
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Speaker 3: Milik Nabors exciting player for for you guys, and our

698
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Speaker 3: Zach Orr defensive coordinator talked this week about how he

699
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Speaker 3: reminds him a little bit of Jamar Chase and obviously

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Speaker 3: pretty high praise there and in terms of what Jamar

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Speaker 3: Chase is as a player, and he's had some monster

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Speaker 3: games against the Ravens, So I know Ravens fans to

703
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Speaker 3: think and I hope he doesn't remind you too much

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Speaker 3: of Jamar Chase, but he you know, that's that'll be

705
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Speaker 3: an interesting matchup for sure, and I think that this again,

706
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Speaker 3: the secondary has made some adjustments and they're playing at

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Speaker 3: a high level. Also, the other interesting point on the

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Speaker 3: secondary and with Neighbors is Ravens have a first round

709
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Speaker 3: pick this year and Nate Wiggins cornerback really fast, you know,

710
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Speaker 3: played at Clemson, dynamic player. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: if him and Neighbors, you know, match up at all

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Speaker 3: against each other as a couple of rookie first round picks.

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Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that real quick, I imagine

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Speaker 1: just the fact that you guys score so many points

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Speaker 1: and have so many leads probably is one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons you have the big difference between the pass and

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Speaker 1: rush defense, right be his teams are probably giving up

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Speaker 1: on the run against you guys a lot, and the

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Speaker 1: volume of passes is probably just off the charts.

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Speaker 3: You're correct, and that's actually what Sean Payton said that

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Speaker 3: same thing. I think Mike Tomlins said that same thing.

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Speaker 1: Mike Kafkas said that to us this week. The Giants

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Speaker 1: will see same deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's definitely part of the disparity that exists there.

725
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Speaker 3: But like the Ravens defense did have issues early in

726
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Speaker 3: the season on the secondary giving up big plays. They've

727
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Speaker 3: cleaned that up and they and that's been like a

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Speaker 3: major focus for them. But you are correct that disparity

729
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Speaker 3: is in part to having some big leads and teams

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Speaker 3: just throwing to try to get back in the game.

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Speaker 1: A final question you talked about the second there already.

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Speaker 1: How about the pass rush where the Ravens getting their

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Speaker 1: pass rush from these days? Who are the guys that

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Speaker 1: if you leave him out in one on one matchups,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna make you pay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Ravens defense is not like just predicated

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Speaker 3: on a one dominant pass rusher. It's more of an

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Speaker 3: all hands on deck approach, and it can come from

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Speaker 3: a couple of different ways. Ada fe Oway is an

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Speaker 3: outside linebacker who's he can get after the quarterback. He's

741
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Speaker 3: a speed rusher. He's an athletic, really gifted athletic player.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those players. Kyle van Ney is a

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Speaker 3: sage veteran who knows he's got a bunch of different

744
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Speaker 3: moves in his tool belt and can get after the

745
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Speaker 3: quarterback and once he gets there, he typically brings him down.

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Speaker 3: Those are the two guys off the edge. And again

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Speaker 3: van Ney, he missed a game, but looking like he's

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Speaker 3: been back in practice this week, which has been good

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Speaker 3: for this team. And then Namdi Matabik formerly Justin Madabik

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Speaker 3: if people are looking at the name change, went by

751
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Speaker 3: Justin previously, but now he is going by his given

752
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Speaker 3: name of Nandi. He he he had double digit sacks

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Speaker 3: last year and he's a defensive tackle in the middle.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens gave him a big contract this offseason. He

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Speaker 3: hasn't had the same volume from a pass rush from

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Speaker 3: a sax standpoint as he did last year. He still

757
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Speaker 3: gets in the backfield and he's more of the you

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Speaker 3: to compare anybody to Aaron Donald, of course, but he's

759
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Speaker 3: more in that mold of a defensive tackle rather than

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Speaker 3: a guy that just clogs up the middle. He's really

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Speaker 3: gifted athletically. He's a leaner defensive tackle who specializes as

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Speaker 3: a pass rusher. So though that's really where the Ravens

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Speaker 3: are getting that pass rush and from Oway and van

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Speaker 3: Ney off the edge of that Matta BK up the middle.

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Speaker 3: But again, it's not one guy, and you'll have these

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Speaker 3: situations where it could be any of them that had

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Speaker 3: like there's been earlier this year. There was a couple

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Speaker 3: of games where Van Noi had multiple sacks and he

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Speaker 3: was leading the league at one point in sacks, and

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Speaker 3: then he kind of went quiet, and then Oway had

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Speaker 3: a couple of big games, and then Matt a BK.

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Speaker 3: So it's a bit of a you never know where

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Speaker 3: it's gonna come from, and I think that the Ravens

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Speaker 3: try to keep teams guessing a little litle bit when

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Speaker 3: it comes to that.

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Speaker 1: Garrett, good stuff. Look forward to see you on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Have a safe, safe trip up the turnpike.

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Speaker 3: My friend, I'd say I trained it's teams take Oh

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Speaker 3: you trained it nice? Yeah? The team takes the train

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Speaker 3: for these for these games, which is always kind of

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Speaker 3: a fun travel trip. So great to talk to you, John,

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Speaker 3: and we'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Our train trips down to DC and Baltimore for

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Speaker 1: those games are some of my favorite. Too. Appreciate it man,

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Speaker 1: Safe travels awesome.

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Speaker 3: See you huddle up, get in here.

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Speaker 4: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the

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Speaker 4: middle with at the score.

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Speaker 3: Great. How do we make that happen?

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Speaker 5: Those always were joined by the head coach of the

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Speaker 5: New York Giants, Brian Dable. Where the safterding the Giants

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Speaker 5: take on the Baltimore Ravens and coach. You take a

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Speaker 5: look at this Ravens team. They're coming off there by

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Speaker 5: they're eight and five, and their ability to run the

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Speaker 5: football between the quarterback Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry and

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Speaker 5: then have everything else flow after it is pretty impressive.

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Speaker 5: As you look at them on TATE and you study them.

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Speaker 5: Obviously they're fantastic players, and Lamar's a two time MVP,

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Speaker 5: But what about what growth have you seen it, especially

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Speaker 5: in Lamar's game over the years.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've said this before, he's one of the better

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Speaker 6: players in the league. Just strictly player. I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: one of the better quarterbacks in the league. But this

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Speaker 6: guy is dynamic as they come. He's instinctive, he plays

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Speaker 6: well in situations. No moment is too big for him.

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Speaker 6: He can create with his arm and his legs. He's

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Speaker 6: the reason why there's a lot of big plays on

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Speaker 6: that offense, one of the main reasons. He touches the

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Speaker 6: ball every play. And you know, he's a very difficult

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Speaker 6: player to defend, and each year he seems he gets

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Speaker 6: better and better. He's got a great personality, great leadership.

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Speaker 6: Love the way he plays. You see the emotion on

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Speaker 6: the field. This guy's a heck of a football player.

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Speaker 5: And then you couple him with Derek Henry who was

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Speaker 5: signed as a free agent. All he's doing is averaging

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Speaker 5: like six yards of carry. How do you at least

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Speaker 5: slow him down? I mean, you can't stop him, but

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Speaker 5: how do you slow him down today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 6: You have to do a great job of trying to

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Speaker 6: control the line of scrimmage, fill your gaps, you know,

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Speaker 6: be good on your run for so then you know

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Speaker 6: your crack replace with your corners got to come up

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Speaker 6: and they have to make tackles on a big back

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Speaker 6: who's you know, like you said, as productive as they come.

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Speaker 6: He's got power, speed, vision, an unbelievable stiff arm. It's

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Speaker 6: the reason why he's been one of the better players

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Speaker 6: in the league for a long time. And those two

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Speaker 6: guys in the backfield together present, you know, probably one

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Speaker 6: of the most difficult challenges for any of you in

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Speaker 6: the National Football League. And then you you know, add

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Speaker 6: Flowers to that. Who's dynamic bateman, you know, Andrews likely.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a very talented roster and.

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Speaker 5: When you go to the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 5: they're good stop in the run. I want to ask

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Speaker 5: you from an offensive standpoint, what kind of challenge has

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Speaker 5: it been for you as a play caller and as

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Speaker 5: a staff completely, you know, just with the injuries. Tommy

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Speaker 5: got hurt and then Drew Locke came in and did

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Speaker 5: some nice things, he got banged up. How have you

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Speaker 5: been able to manage that with you know, both guys

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Speaker 5: dealing with injuries and not having the same kind of

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Speaker 5: continuity that you would like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's the National Football League's and no excuses.

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Speaker 6: You know, whoever's healthy and available to play. You know,

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Speaker 6: you got to do a good job of, you know,

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Speaker 6: as coaching staff, getting them ready, and they have to

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Speaker 6: do a good job as players, you know, being ready

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Speaker 6: to go.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that, I mean for your staff, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know you didn't win the game last week, but

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Speaker 5: in the course of leading up to the game and

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Speaker 5: then during the game on the offensive line, and then

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Speaker 5: what you were dealing with defensively, you had to be

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Speaker 5: proud of everybody, especially the staff and the assistant coaches,

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Speaker 5: getting these guys ready to play because you were able

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Speaker 5: to function despite dealing with all the adversity in game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, these guys work, They work very hard. They do

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Speaker 6: everything they can do each week to to try to

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Speaker 6: prepare the players. Got a lot of confidence and all

871
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Speaker 6: of our guys and you know, the young guys like

872
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Speaker 6: we talked about, you know, they did everything they could do.

873
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Speaker 6: We just fell short on a few plays and unfortunately

874
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Speaker 6: didn't get to win.

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Speaker 5: How hard is it to practice, coach when you when

876
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Speaker 5: you have all these moving parts? I know the injury

877
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Speaker 5: report this week has been pretty lengthy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, again, no excuses. That's that's our job is to

879
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: make sure whoever's available, we do our best to get

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00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 6: them ready to play in the classroom, on the practice field,

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Speaker 6: and then and then on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Is this where you learn about character of individuals when

883
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Speaker 5: you get the kind of adversity that you've dealt with.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, uh, you know, when when things aren't

885
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: aren't going great, you're not getting the results, you know,

886
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Speaker 6: you got to believe in what you do. You got

887
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Speaker 6: to double down on it. If you've got to make

888
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 6: certain changes, you make certain changes. You've got to you know,

889
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 6: come to work every day with a positive mindset, with

890
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Speaker 6: great discipline and determination to to continue to improve.

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Speaker 5: When you when you think about, you know, the challenges

892
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Speaker 5: that you've faced and We've talked about this a bit,

893
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 5: no cracks, you know, I think that's something that's pretty impressive,

894
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Speaker 5: despite the subversity that you've dealt with as a football team,

895
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Speaker 5: that everybody's kind of rallying together here and and trying

896
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: to figure out how to make that last play to

897
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Speaker 5: get it over the top. With all these one score games,

898
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Speaker 5: what does that say about the leadership in that room.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, again, you don't like the results, but each week

900
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Speaker 6: you have to build off of the positive and correct

901
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Speaker 6: the negatives again with with great discipline and and and

902
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Speaker 6: an attitude to you know, come in with the right

903
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 6: mindset to improve and you know, focus on the things

904
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Speaker 6: that you can control, which is you know, the current week, coach.

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Speaker 5: You and I we've talked about explosive plays, right, and

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Speaker 5: they haven't been as plenty plentyful as you would have liked.

907
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Speaker 5: But each and every week when you look at the

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Speaker 5: game tape, obviously last week, you know there were opportunities

909
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 5: in the football game. Is that something that it's it's frustrating,

910
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Speaker 5: but it's also encouraging that, hey, there are things here

911
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 5: that if we could just get cleaned up here would

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Speaker 5: lead to some of the things that we're looking to accomplish.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, big plays are you know, you score points because

914
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Speaker 6: you get explosive plays in this league and you play

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Speaker 6: well in the red zone. And those are two things

916
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Speaker 6: we've focused on for for quite some time here. So

917
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Speaker 6: when they're available, whether that's run after catch or or downfield,

918
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Speaker 6: you know whether it's a throw, whether it's a catch,

919
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Speaker 6: whether it's protection, whatever it may be. You know those

920
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Speaker 6: two areas. Explosive plays in red zone are two of

921
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Speaker 6: the most important areas to generate points.

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Speaker 5: And finally, coach, when you're going against a team as

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Speaker 5: powerful as the Ravens are with their run game, they're

924
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: good at stopping the run. They've been susceptible to the

925
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: pass and to the passing game. But you know there's

926
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Speaker 5: a lot of factors that come into that, especially when

927
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Speaker 5: you're playing with big leads a lot and you look

928
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Speaker 5: at this game from the injuries and everything else that

929
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Speaker 5: you have. Is this game a game all about complimentary

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Speaker 5: football where every single unit has to be buttoned up

931
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Speaker 5: and play in connection with each other. When you're playing

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Speaker 5: a team as good as the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Again, you got to try to again create

934
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Speaker 6: some explosive plays execute down in the red zone to

935
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Speaker 6: generate some points. Defensively, is gonna have to do a

936
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Speaker 6: good job of controlling them. You know, down in the

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00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 6: red zone, they're going to move the ball, something they

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Speaker 6: do on everybody with the explosive playmakers and the quarterback

939
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Speaker 6: that they have them some points and special teams is

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Speaker 6: going to have to win that area, and you're gonna

941
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Speaker 6: have to play a good, complimentary game to give yourself

942
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Speaker 6: a chance against a team like this, who who's one

943
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 6: of the better teams, you know, talent wise, and you

944
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 6: know the way they play, the style that they play

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Speaker 6: with in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes is always best

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Speaker 5: of luck this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Bob all Right, great stuff from all of our guests. Today.

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Speaker 1: We thank Brian Dable and Bob Poppa. We thank Garrett

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Speaker 1: Downing from the Ravens, and we thank Darius Mussau, the

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Speaker 1: Giants starting linebacker this week. Rookie out of uc LA

952
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Speaker 1: happy he's got his winter cotey staying warm. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us on this edition of the Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the game, on Sunday. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Everybody