WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Time to Make Deals? 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.040 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:18.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.919 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.239 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:31.640 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.919 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:45.000 Good morning, Cowboys Nation. It is season whatever, episode don't 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:50.040 know of Cowboys Break, and I am David Hellman hosting 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.080 today's episode because Derek Eagleton made a nil advised decision 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:59.440 over drinks last night. Hello, Um, I'm here with Nick Eatman, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.760 Derek Eagles, than amberg Arcia. You know the drill. We're 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.200 gonna talk about your favorite football team and do all 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.200 that kind of good stuff, and not surprisingly, all the 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.560 cool stuff happens after a day off, right, you think 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.320 it's gonna be the downtime. And the response to that 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.200 is they cut one of their most prominent players, which 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.479 sounds weird to say about a third string tight end 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.120 and a whole bunch of contract news drops overnights. So 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.800 which topic do y'all want to start with? We're gonna 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.399 get them, We're gonna get to them both, but what 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.800 would you rather talk about right now? Basically, this just 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.240 this started as kind of a dare, like, why don't 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.959 you shoot you know, why don't you just host? No? 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.600 You know, I'd started, Derek said he didn't want to. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.960 It started with me saying, now, this is roughly about 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.680 ten o'clock last night, and we're standing there and I'm like, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.280 you know, I haven't even prepared for tomorrow's show. I 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:52.880 have no idea what we're going to talk about. And 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.920 Dave's is, hey, I can host tomorrow, And before he 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.240 could get out I could host. I was like, yes, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.440 that perfect, let's go. Let's go. You be the host tomorrow. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.480 So that's perfect and you can go with whatever you 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.400 want to go. You're the host. Okay, Actually I forgot. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.000 I actually wrote down we can do some blanket coverage, 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.120 so we'll just start. We'll start, well this is taken off. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.040 That means you actually like my sem no I do 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.160 like that first time ever in the history of our 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.040 show that you guys like something I did. That's good. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.800 That's good. So blanket coverage. The Rico gathers era is 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.519 over for the Dallas Cowboys. That makes you feel blank Derek, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.360 I was gonna say relieve, but that also makes it 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.919 feel like I was sitting here anxious about it before. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.000 It's almost just kind of like, Okay, we all saw 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.239 the riding on the wall, so it was just like 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.919 something happened that we already knew what was going to happen. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.200 Who knew when it was gonna happen, but at some 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:49.919 point we knew it was gonna happen. We were out amber, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:51.440 you and I while talking about this, I think it 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.320 was day three, two or three, when he a ball 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.080 hit him streaking the chest and it just kind of 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.160 fell to the ground and we were like, Okay, it's 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.680 just not it's not gonna happen. So to me, it's 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.000 just kind of, you know, it is what we all 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.120 expect it's going to be. It makes me feel disappointed 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.680 because I wanted I wanted him to be that guy. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.880 I wanted him to be the Jimmy Graham and you know, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.280 the basketball player Antonio Gates type guy that would have 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.240 been cool. I just didn't work. I mean, they tried, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.079 he tried, didn't work a g It makes me feel 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.640 good but sad at the same time, good because I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.919 got Will McClay to tell me I was right, thank 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.720 you very much, and I told him to do a 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:39.160 better job with that, and he that has been his guy, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.920 and you know, he really wanted him to be successful 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.720 and the field he didn't work out, and obviously I 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.040 told I told Will, I'm like, yeah, they're not always 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.480 all gonna work out. Yeah, you're great at what you do, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.920 but yeah there's some let me tell you, let me 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.720 tell you. But he is awesome, but sad at the 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.720 same time because I mean, if it had worked out, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.600 it would have been so good, like because of his physique, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.800 his size, and the things that he could have possibly done. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.240 And it's always sad. I mean we talk, especially me, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.800 I like, well, because we do this show, I criticize 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.080 people and while we watch and all that. But at 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.440 the end of the day, when you see a guy 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.560 leave and you know, it's still sad and I'm sad 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.839 for him that it just it wasn't enough, he wasn't 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.840 getting it. I think relieved is a great word just 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.039 and that sounds mean. I don't have any ill will 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.520 toward Rico Gathers, but it is kind of a relief 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.440 because he's the third string tight end and he is 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.559 one of the more like noteworthy figures on this team 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.000 because of his background, because of his you know, he's 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.719 not afraid to talk himself up. He says stuff on 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.880 Instagram and Twitter, and everybody wants him to be the 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.120 next Jimmy Graham. And the writing has been on the 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.440 wall for at least like a year that it probably 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.320 wasn't going to happen, and it's just kind of a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.279 relief to not have to juggle that in a addition 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.480 to everything else that's going on. Yeah, I think that 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.680 that Tom Landry slash Bill Parcels, whoever you want to say, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:10.080 has this this you know philosophy of year three. You know, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.119 you get you get three years to kind of figure 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.359 it out, and for him, he got a full three years, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.000 and then by the fourth year, I just think that 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.960 they didn't see the progression of this is going to 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.960 continue to get better and better. And how long do 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.720 you hold your your roster hostage for it? You know? 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.960 I mean, he's probably other positions are needed. I mean, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.240 a defensive line position, an offensive line. It's gonna be 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.880 tough cuts there. You can't linebackers. We talk about the yesterday, Yeah, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.279 the percentage that Rico Gathers goes to a new team 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.800 and has more success than he did. Here is blank 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:49.480 Nick sixty who Okay, you gotta catch more than three 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.240 passes here. I think you can go somewhere and do that. Um. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.440 The scary part is if they somebody got him and 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.120 try to Maybe not scary, but interesting would be if 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.680 somebody took him and did something else with him, you know, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.440 position maybe, but that was the worst part of his 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.400 game though, in my opinion, Like I didn't think, I 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.120 think his blocking was. What if what if he's a 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.360 defense I don't know. I don't I mean, I don't know. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.320 He don't know. He's got to have it. He needs 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.040 to go play he needs to go to Europe and 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.080 play basketball. That's what I would because think about think 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.640 about what he did at Baylor. He led the nation 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.560 in rebounding, doing things that basketball players do in a 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.040 workout thing. Now you've been playing football for three years. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.440 Now you're gonna go over. You got a football body 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.560 with basketball skills that you can make money. He can 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.720 make money in this league doing what he does. I'm 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.719 in this league. I'm sorry, he can in the world 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.479 the world somewhere g league. I mean something, if he 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.120 had done that from the jump, he might be in 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.640 the NBA by now. He might So that's okay, um 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.160 the Cowboy by well, yeah, numbers on that numbers, I 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.480 would put it much slower than that. I would guess 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.640 more like about fifteen percent, because I think the chances 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.720 of that happening are about right opportunities. So it has 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.920 to be the right team. It has to be a team. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.800 And you know the team is. I mean we all 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.840 know that if you want to say a guy the Patriots, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.240 if you want to get a guy to achieve more 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.680 than he would achieve other places, they've been one of 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.080 the teams that can sometimes make that. Yea, they if 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.559 they sign him or claim him. I'm not he's a veteran. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.640 They don't. He doesn't have to be claimed, right or 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.320 thank you would well during training camp. Yeah, he's got 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.720 that one game suspension though too. Yeah, I mean that's 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.360 something that if he winds up in New England, I'm 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.320 just gonna bury my head in mind. I mean, they 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.560 just they know how to just kind of create these 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.800 roles for guys, and so if they for a guy 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.680 like him, I could see where maybe they find that 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.040 one thing that he does semi well and they say, Okay, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.520 this is gonna be the only thing you worry about. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.520 You do this right, and he could give them some 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.800 help in doing that, and it can make him pop 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.800 enough to where we're like, oh, Rico's doing a little something. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.960 You know, it catches two balls in the game, you know, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.680 that kind of thing where it's like the more than 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.280 we ever saw him do here. But it's all about 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.520 the role. They put him in a role, a specific role, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.600 and he does that decently well. So I think the 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.200 percentage is low. You tell me what team it is, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.640 and percentage may go up, but right now it's say 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.400 fifteen percent. I hope he catches on just you know, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.520 during training camp, when you have a free minute, you're 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.880 watching other teams preseason games and reading their reports. It 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.920 would give me a hell of a reason to check 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.800 in on the Falcons or whoever if he was there. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.520 So the Cowboys twenty sixteen draft class loses its second member, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.400 Charles Tapper, and Rico gathers only guys from that draft 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.520 class who aren't still here, not counting Zeke who is 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.600 temporarily not here. All right, I don't know how to 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.160 turn you on to go with that. I thought you're 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.000 about who's right. I thought he was going to go 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.080 and turn it straight into a we actually we are 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.000 going to talk about that. But no, there's no way 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.440 to do this. There's no way to do this with 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.200 blanket coverage. But the elephant in the room. You've seen 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:55.680 the reports everywhere, starting early this morning, the Cowboys reportedly 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.160 have offered all of their big three top five money 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:04.320 and are flummoxed as to why that hasn't why that 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.040 hasn't generated more discussion, gotten more names on more signatures, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.800 all that good type of stuff. I'm curious for y'all's 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.120 take on this. I ran some numbers on it that 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.920 I want to get to, but just, oh, what's your 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.440 take on that the Cowboys have reportedly offered Dak Amari Cooper, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.280 and Ezekiel Elliott all top five money and yet no 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.199 deals are done. I think I think that statement is 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.560 a general statement to get them all grouped together. I 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.120 think that the top five means is Dak. That's that's 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.000 where the DAC is got to be in the five, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.720 because you're going to insult Zeke if you say anything 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.880 about other than top two or if not number one, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.839 he's got to be number one, I think in his mind, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.720 so three or four is an insulting thing, and I 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.440 think for Cooper it's I think it's got to be 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.360 in the in the top three range. Don't you think 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.720 that's act that's really well done? Because I looked up 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.960 the numbers. I didn't know off the top of my hand, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.120 off the top of my head. But you're absolutely right. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.160 Top five works for Dak. Anything other than top two 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.920 is insulting for Ezekiel Elliott, and top three is starting 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.319 to look kind of insulting for wide receiver too, because 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.600 here's the drop Todd Gurley is leading with fourteen million 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.360 a year, Levion Bell's at thirteen, David Johnson's at thirteen. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.800 The drop to the next guy, who is um DeVante Freeman, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.760 is eight million a year. So top five money not 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.640 buying it now a little bit of of a moving 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:29.640 target there because Julio is still there. Negotiation wide receivers 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.360 wide receivers very similar. Mike Thomas just set the market 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.440 at nineteen, Odell beckhams behind him at eighteen. The drop 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.360 off to Antonio Brown is sixteen point seven. Then you 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.200 got Mike Evans and DeAndre Hopkins both making sixteen as well. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.079 So again like and if Julio sets it again, then 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.520 all of a sudden, eighteen million is the number three 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.360 contract at the position. So again, top five is already 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.080 starting to look. But I see, but I still don't 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.560 think that Cooper is necessarily a guy I think has 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.920 to be top three. I think if he's top five, 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.360 you talk about those names, those guys name, he's right 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.400 there with those guys. Those guys still take the deal. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.560 I think that if he's in the top five with 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.839 those numbers, sometimes you know how numbers can be a 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.160 little bit sure of how they but you're doing the 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.120 best you can there. So I think I don't I 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.320 don't think he's better than those guys. This is. I 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.679 think he's as good. I don't think he's better. I 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.720 don't think he's better than Hopkins. I don't either, and 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.480 I don't think he's better than Why didn't they make 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.680 these offer since we've been at training camp? And that 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.800 another thing to clear up, to clear up the confusion, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.520 like these offers were not put on the table last night. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.280 Reporters got wind that these offers existed last night, Like 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.559 these could have been extended before the team even came 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.920 out here for all we know. Just to clarify, I'm 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.360 anxious to see that quarterback list of five, Like, what's 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.800 that quarterback list is the easiest to deal with, in 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.040 my opinion, you got you got Russell Wilson at thirty 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.719 five million a year, Ben Roethlisberger at thirty four, much 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.520 smaller guarantee because it's a shorter deal because he's older. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.120 Aaron Rodgers at thirty three and a half, Carson Wentz 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.360 at thirty two, Matt Ryan at thirty So you gotta 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.920 hit the thirty million mark to get him into the 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.120 top five. But that's kind of what we're all sure. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.160 He's going to be in that range of thirty to 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.160 thirty five, right, And I don't know why that isn't 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.200 signing the deal. I am surprised about that too. And 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.679 again to go back to I was gonna make the 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.240 same point about wide receiver, whether we like it or not, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.880 it's not purely about stats and talent. It's like, oh, well, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.920 he caught ten more passes than me, so I should 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.440 be comfortable taking more less money. Like That's not how 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.560 it works. It's the market is set and reset every 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.720 time one of these deals gets signed. So eighteen million 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.880 was top of the line six months ago to a 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.760 month three weeks ago, and it's about to be middle 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.960 of the pack for top tier receivers. I was looking 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.679 at this, I was like, I bet DeAndre Hopkins is 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.040 piss Yeah, because he is. He's about to be a bargain. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.280 And for my money, I think he is the absolute 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.079 best receiver in football right now. I mean, you can 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.440 make the argument I do so, I thought. I think 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.120 I saw a graph the other day. Last year he 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.160 went like a hundred and fifteen catches without a drop 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.560 like something like that. Something just insane to his imagine. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.640 And his quarterback play. I know Watson's pretty good, but 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.559 when Watson was banged up, it never changed. Yeah, it's 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.040 just the same with him. He doesn't like wow his quarterbacks. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.160 I think he's the best league. I think you're just 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.199 talking about resetting the floor of what's possible. Like Amari 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.720 Cooper was shooting for eighteen million. Now, eighteen million is 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.200 probably the minimum of what he'll accept as a deal 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.280 or his agents, I should say. I think we're also 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:39.200 making the assumption that the overall money is the lynchpin 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.200 right there there could be other things that are in 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.400 these contracts that could be holding up negotiating guarantees UM, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.520 that length of the deal UM even for for for 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.120 for Zeke. There could even be some situations where maybe 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.760 he doesn't want some stipulations the Cowboys want to protect 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.520 themselves from him getting in trouble off the field. Like, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.959 there's a lot of things to factor into this absolutely 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.360 that can change, UM A negotiating position on either side 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.920 that don't necessarily have to do with the overall money. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.880 You know, the guy that messes it up or I 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.200 don't know, messes up just confuses the whole thing at 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.720 quarterback to me is wins because there's other guys there. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.360 They've won MVPs, they've they've won super Bowls, they've won both. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.880 UM wins on his way to he got some MVP 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.800 votes and he might have won it that. Yeah, I 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.800 think he would have. And I don't doubt that they 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.320 would have won still won the super Bowls, you know, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.200 but he's won his mind. He's playing really well. He's 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.120 won a super Bowl, yeah, I mean he has. He 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.160 has got a super Bowl ring, and he led them 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.520 to a position where the backup could come in and 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.040 win games at home. I would imagine, I can't remember 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.320 that they win at home. Yeah, they were the one seed. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.440 So so he won a super Bowl, I mean history. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.120 The interesting part about it is years from now, and 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.800 I'm talking twenty years from now, when he's out of 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.600 the league, people that are looking back at the league 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.000 and talking about the league in their minds the back 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.320 of their minds and be like, he didn't win a 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.480 super Bowl because they will think he had a great year, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.440 he was MVV caliber player and they won a super 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.360 Bowl that year, not even really putting it together all 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.760 the time that he wasn't a quarterback that did. Here's 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.360 that won the super Bowl. Here's what's weird about that. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.080 If they don't ever win another super Bowl, when a 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.120 lot of fans would listen to this would love that, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.320 if they don't ever win another one, then it'll be like, yeah, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.400 he kind of won, but maybe, but if he leads 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.760 them to another one, then he'll have to there you go, right, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.760 It'll just be like you you have to exactly right. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.880 So and y'all, y'all don't call We don't call these shots. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.480 And it's a tough thing to it's a tough thing 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.680 to parse out. But knowing this, so knowing those numbers 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.480 and that these offers have not been accepted by these players, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.160 what like, what are you willing to do to get 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.440 I mean, are you Are you willing to pay Dak 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.800 more than Aaron Rodgers to get a deal done? No, Honestly, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.720 I believe that, and I believe that the Cowboys will 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.280 do this. But I believe the Cowboys have kind of 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.440 a budget ye lack of a better way to put it, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.840 and I don't think they're going to extend themselves much 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.800 beyond that. Now. There may be other things they're willing 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.920 to negotiate, but the money's the money. And Jerry's pretty 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.040 forthright about that in this public comments, saying you know 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.560 that they weren't trying to set the market. Um, and 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.000 I don't think they are, I think, and nor should 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.520 they know. I don't think that. I don't think either 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.680 of those three players. Zeke is probably the closest, But 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.840 I don't think either three of those players is the 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.000 best at their position in the league. I think Zeke 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.320 is right there among the best. I think those other 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.800 two are. There are several When we went through the 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.440 exercise of the quarterbacks, what do we have Dak ninth. Yeah, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.880 So I mean I don't think that. I don't think 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.000 they are players that necessitate you saying will blow up 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.760 our financial budget in order to get them, get them signed. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.600 I think you got leverage with some of them. Now, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.080 you got to do a deal or two to give 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.080 you some leverage with the with the the franchise tag. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.120 But I think when it's all said and done, I 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.440 think the Cowboys stick to their budgets. You still don't 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.240 know why you really have, right, he hasn't shown it yet, yeah, yeah, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.240 not not to the level you need them to. Yeah. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.880 I mean, not that that list matters so much, But 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.200 I mean you're talking about you know, the peers are 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.720 voting NFL's top one hundred. He's not there. You know, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.640 he's not in the top fifteen as quarterbacks rated on 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.080 your peers. I think around the league people would would 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:07.879 put him somewhere in the middle. And the Cowboys are 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.960 offering you top five money. Yeah, um, if that's the case, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.960 I mean, I just don't understand what they would be 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.200 waiting for to be in that group that's that would 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.800 be a good deal for Dak. And so I don't 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.320 I don't understand Dak's hesitation. If we can assume that 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.480 these reports are accurate, I tend to think it would 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.040 take market setting to get Zeke here. That's I mean, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.520 And your point is well made that you know you 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.120 can argue for Gurley and Belle and the fact that 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.960 you can't trust Zeke. But it is what it is. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.160 I mean, that's probably what he wants. But I will 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.479 believe it when I see it. The report that Jescina 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.840 Anderson had out there that he's willing to miss the 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.920 entire season, I don't believe that. I'll believe it when 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.439 I see it. I don't trust the fact when especially 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.479 if this was going to be the final year like 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.320 Levion had last year, where it was like, well they 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.120 gotta they gotta get rid of me after this year. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.720 They can't hold on to me for another year, then maybe, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.480 But is a player willing to give up two years? 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.240 And if you're not willing to give up two years, 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.280 then what good is sitting out one year when you'd 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.480 be back the next year. It just to me, the 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.639 whole thing that does not make sense to me. I 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.679 can't see him missing an entire season this year, not 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.080 an entire season, but the number they kept going around 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.000 and last night here hearing a lot of talk about 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.640 the Zeke contract. It was ten games for he's got 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.800 to play six. He's got to play six and and 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:26.760 so he may not. I don't think he'll miss the 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.280 whole year. But if he's gonna do anything, I gotta 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.360 play six to do what? Like, what's the I think? 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.080 I think? I think so he could get his year. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.680 He can get that that year, so the year counts, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.600 so the year with but the still the still the 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.080 thing still about it is that his ten game checks, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.000 he game checks, I willion dollars for every game. I 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.280 will believe it when I see it, Like that's a 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.400 ton of money. That by the way, a guy's trying 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.280 to get paid. So and you think he wants the money. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.880 And here's another well, you know the fact that he's 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.280 lost all incentives anyways because of because of the game 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.800 suspension that he got two years ago, so he doesn't 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.800 have those incentives for to get anyways. But he lost 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.439 a lot of money. He lost some you know, with 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.280 legal fees and all that. So I can't imagine him 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.199 wanting to do that. I'll believe it when I see it. Now, 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.080 maybe he will maybe he has enough conviction on this 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.240 and where he's like, I'll take whatever hits coming to me. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:18.879 I'll just believe it. When I see, I'm gonna go 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.439 back to Dak real quick. I will bet everything that 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.040 I have he plays, he plays the first game with 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.920 a new contract. There's no way, there's no way they're 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.800