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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Cowboys Nation. It is season whatever, episode don't

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Speaker 1: know of Cowboys Break, and I am David Hellman hosting

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Speaker 1: today's episode because Derek Eagleton made a nil advised decision

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Speaker 1: over drinks last night. Hello, Um, I'm here with Nick Eatman,

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagles, than amberg Arcia. You know the drill. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about your favorite football team and do all

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Speaker 1: that kind of good stuff, and not surprisingly, all the

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Speaker 1: cool stuff happens after a day off, right, you think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the downtime. And the response to that

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Speaker 1: is they cut one of their most prominent players, which

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Speaker 1: sounds weird to say about a third string tight end

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Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of contract news drops overnights. So

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Speaker 1: which topic do y'all want to start with? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get them, We're gonna get to them both, but what

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Speaker 1: would you rather talk about right now? Basically, this just

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Speaker 1: this started as kind of a dare, like, why don't

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Speaker 1: you shoot you know, why don't you just host? No?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd started, Derek said he didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: It started with me saying, now, this is roughly about

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Speaker 1: ten o'clock last night, and we're standing there and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I haven't even prepared for tomorrow's show. I

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Speaker 1: Dave's is, hey, I can host tomorrow, And before he

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Speaker 1: could get out I could host. I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: that perfect, let's go. Let's go. You be the host tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So that's perfect and you can go with whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to go. You're the host. Okay, Actually I forgot.

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Speaker 1: I actually wrote down we can do some blanket coverage,

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Speaker 1: so we'll just start. We'll start, well this is taken off.

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Speaker 1: That means you actually like my sem no I do

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Speaker 1: like that first time ever in the history of our

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Speaker 1: That's good. So blanket coverage. The Rico gathers era is

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Speaker 1: over for the Dallas Cowboys. That makes you feel blank Derek,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say relieve, but that also makes it

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Speaker 1: It's almost just kind of like, Okay, we all saw

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Speaker 1: Who knew when it was gonna happen, but at some

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Speaker 1: they sign him or claim him. I'm not he's a veteran.

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Speaker 1: that's act that's really well done? Because I looked up

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. But you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Top five works for Dak. Anything other than top two

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Speaker 1: I think like you might not win three games without

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Speaker 1: those three players. The biggest risk for them, though, is

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Speaker 1: they alienate a bunch of guys in that lock. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and so they that would be the nuclear button, because

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Speaker 1: you blow up your team chemistry because that's that just

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Speaker 1: screams I'm all about me in a situation where, especially

432
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Speaker 1: for the quarterback, you have to at least project the

433
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Speaker 1: image you're all about the team. Yeah, and so I

434
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Speaker 1: think that would be a nuclear option. I don't think

435
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Speaker 1: they would do it. I don't think it would be smart,

436
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Speaker 1: but it made me think like that could create a

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Speaker 1: bunch of really interesting dynamics just across the league. That

438
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Speaker 1: would be seismic across the league when you start talking

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Speaker 1: about how teams and players interact when it comes to contracts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that should play. I know

441
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Speaker 1: somebody said going into the season got me thinking, and

442
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Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. I don't think he should

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Speaker 1: play the first I don't think he should play. Hold

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Speaker 1: that thought while we take our first break. I want

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is Cowboys Break. We are there. There's

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Speaker 1: no football on Monday, so we're talking contract instead with

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Speaker 1: this team. I think that's an unret data Radeuh no,

490
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Speaker 1: why just figured if we're talking contract, should be drinking dataade.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I am not following. Yeah, you're right, piece, great piece

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Speaker 1: of viral content we did with number four last week. Nick,

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Speaker 1: I want you to expound on what you said right

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Speaker 1: before the break about dak not. You don't think you

496
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Speaker 1: should play without a new deal. I really don't, and

497
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Speaker 1: I just think that, and I know Derek you disagree

498
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Speaker 1: with this. We talked about it just now, but I

499
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Speaker 1: just feel like if if something were to happen injury

500
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Speaker 1: wise or whatever. I don't know if the value is

501
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Speaker 1: the same. I don't know if the Cowboys look at it.

502
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Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys will always be that that organization

503
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: that does the I think they did the right thing.

504
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: Let's situation like that. Still think they would try to

505
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Speaker 1: sign him, but I think just you're risking so much

506
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Speaker 1: with him, um going into a season and playing on

507
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Speaker 1: the contract, knowing that how much is sitting on the table.

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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I just wouldn't do it. And I

509
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Speaker 1: think you can get the leverage if it's just if

510
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Speaker 1: it's right there, if it's really close, I think you

511
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Speaker 1: can get there and maybe you don't have to sit

512
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Speaker 1: out the game, but maybe you float it out there,

513
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Speaker 1: Like what if he doesn't play, You've got to You've

514
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Speaker 1: got to like forced their hand in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He can't. You can't go to the Giants game and

516
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Speaker 1: lose it. So I think if he misses it, then

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Speaker 1: I mean I think if if he at least threatens

518
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Speaker 1: the holdout, like I can't start a season without this contract. Well,

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Speaker 1: the one thing I think you're right, I don't. I

520
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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are the type of organization that would

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Speaker 1: do the right thing, especially by a player that they

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Speaker 1: think is in their long term plans. So assuming you

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Speaker 1: did get hurt, I think they would probably honor whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know. If these reports are true that they have

525
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Speaker 1: these offers out there to those guys, then my thought

526
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Speaker 1: is if he plays the first game and knock on

527
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Speaker 1: wood he gets hurt, then my thought is a Cowbohich

528
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Speaker 1: probably still honor that offer that they have out their

529
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Speaker 1: for him. I don't think they would rescind that because

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Speaker 1: he's hurt and say no, now we got a doc you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that happens. And I also think that

532
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Speaker 1: Dak has something to lose. What I mean by that is,

533
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Speaker 1: like I said before, the quarterback has a responsibility on

534
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Speaker 1: a team for everybody on the team to feel like

535
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Speaker 1: he has more of a vested interest in the team

536
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Speaker 1: being successful than himself, because if the team ever starts

537
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Speaker 1: to think about think of the quarterback as being in

538
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Speaker 1: it for himself. It's with any leadership position, when anybody

539
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Speaker 1: starts to think on that team that the leader is

540
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Speaker 1: more and more concerned about his own success than the team,

541
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Speaker 1: he's gonna lose all credibility and so I think for

542
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Speaker 1: somebody like Dak it's very different than even Zeke or Amari.

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00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: I think he has that to worry about if he

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Speaker 1: wants to be able to lead this team into the future.

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Speaker 1: I think any player that thinks that way would be

546
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Speaker 1: so naive and shortsighted that they're not remembering that this

547
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: guy played for you know, a million dollars six hundred

548
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Speaker 1: and eighty thousand in the first couple of years. I mean,

549
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Speaker 1: he's done it the right way. He hasn't made a

550
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Speaker 1: lot of waves about it. He's been one of the

551
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: most underpaid and undervalued players in the entire league, and

552
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Speaker 1: so now it's his time. So I mean, I think

553
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Speaker 1: for him too, he should also do I mean for

554
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Speaker 1: him or if you go out and don't play well

555
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, now that number is

556
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Speaker 1: going because right now you're sitting at the top five money,

557
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: that's all okay. I think the problem though, for a

558
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Speaker 1: lot of players in that locker room would be, well,

559
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: then you should have done this back at the beginning

560
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Speaker 1: of training camp, because then Cooper Rush and Mike White

561
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Speaker 1: and whoever else they would have brought in here would

562
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Speaker 1: have been getting those reps and we would be able

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Speaker 1: to prepare ourselves to be able to play that first

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Speaker 1: game of the season. They were out of you were

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Speaker 1: out of training camp, and so I mean you basically

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Speaker 1: put us in a position where now we're handicapped going

567
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Speaker 1: into the season without you. And that's more about us

568
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Speaker 1: than it is about you handling your business. Go handle

569
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Speaker 1: your business, because I don't think I don't think they

570
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: think the same thing about Zeke right now. They feel

571
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: like he's handless business. But guess what, they got running

572
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: backs out here that are getting number one reps so

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Speaker 1: they can be the guy that plays Week one. It

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Speaker 1: you feel like they did that way with the Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Do you think those hotboys thought he was being selfish

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Speaker 1: because he wasn't getting the surgery. He was what he

577
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: was forcing their hand a little bit and not saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a surgery until I get

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Speaker 1: a new deal. Do you think those guys were upset

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Speaker 1: with him? Nobody was doing it kind of for himself too,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't disagree with. Once again, I don't think

582
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Speaker 1: it's the same situation. I don't know. I don't think

583
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Derek is taking advantage of this opportunity and I'm letting

584
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: him run there you go. I don't think it's the

585
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: same situation now if if he would have waited and

586
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Speaker 1: it all it got all the way to training camp,

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Speaker 1: let's say, and then he was like, I'm now I'm

588
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: gonna like he gets a season again. First game and

589
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm out, I'm not playing. I think that's

590
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: a lot different because you let the whole team go

591
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: through training camp. You were taking the reps. These other

592
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: guys were sitting out, they were taking second rep, third

593
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Speaker 1: team reps, and you were You knew all along you

594
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: weren't going to be there, or there was a potential

595
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: you weren't going to be there for the first game.

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00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: That hurts the team. It's one thing to handle your business.

597
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: And the way he did it in the offseason, Cowboys

598
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: at every opportunity to say, Okay, well we may not

599
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Speaker 1: have him, we may want to draft somebody, we may

600
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Speaker 1: want to get a free agent. Robert Quinn. I think

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Speaker 1: part of that was them kind of protecting themselves a

602
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Speaker 1: little bit in the case that they couldn't come to

603
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Speaker 1: an agreement. But the point is they had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to do something different. You don't give them that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: If you wait until week one and then say I'm

606
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: withholding my services, I think that it's it would be

607
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Speaker 1: the other way around. I think if it would be

608
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Speaker 1: worse to sit there as the quarterback and say I'm

609
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Speaker 1: not even gonna be at training camp and I'll let

610
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Speaker 1: you guys do whatever and let Cooper Rushford sign another

611
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Speaker 1: guy and then finally get a deal, and then I

612
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: come in here and I don't have the chemistry or whatever.

613
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: He's saying, Hey, I'm gonna show up at camp, I'm

614
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: gonna do this thing. We're gonna get ready, and I

615
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: trust that in these four or five weeks you're gonna

616
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Speaker 1: get this thing going. But if you don't, I can't

617
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: be going into the season against the Giants game without

618
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: a new deal. You said something really interesting there that

619
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Speaker 1: I do agree with. You said, I trust in these

620
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: four or five weeks you didn't get something done. So

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Speaker 1: if there was an agreement, a handshake, agreement and understanding

622
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Speaker 1: while we're at training camp, we're gonna get this thing done,

623
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Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys don't get this thing done, now,

624
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: maybe there's a little bit more of a reason why

625
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Speaker 1: he would do that. Because he felt feels like there

626
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Speaker 1: was an agreement and they didn't handle their part of

627
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: the agreement. I don't know that. I think that's the case.

628
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Speaker 1: So I don't think again, I still think that he would.

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Speaker 1: He would jeopardize his relationships in that locker room and

630
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Speaker 1: what those players think of him if he put their

631
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: season in jeopardy by doing. Everybody here knows what's going on.

632
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: The players know what's going on with him. They know

633
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: and they understand how this business works. They could know

634
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: in their mind like, okay, this is a possibility, this

635
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: could happen. And when you're dealing with contract talks, what

636
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: is the player actually doing in those negotiations. Negotiations you know,

637
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: that's between the agents and the cowboys. So the player

638
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: could be sitting there drinking, eating whatever, might as well

639
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: be out here doing stuff with the team. I'll say

640
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: this and it's and you know, throw a big cold

641
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: bucket of water on the debate. I really, I really

642
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: feel like this will all get taken care of before

643
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: it's not cutting time. I think time season the start

644
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: of the regular season. I agree with that. I you know,

645
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: it's this is really unique, in my opinion, because usually

646
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: these debates form up when a team doesn't want to

647
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: pay a player, you know, like and the Cowboys want

648
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: to pay these guys. They want to have them under contract.

649
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: They want them to help him win games. Cynically, they

650
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: want them to help him make money too, like these

651
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: are your most profitably your three most profitable players, and

652
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Can I have one more thing into

653
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: name of time, when and you see this a lot

654
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: name of time, when a veteran, high profile guy actually

655
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: sat out games during the regular season and eventually somebody

656
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: in that locker room made a statement that indicated the

657
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room ward happy with the fact

658
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. I mean, this happens all the time.

659
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers were, It happens all the time. And they

660
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: start off. They start off with us, it's just business.

661
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: He's handling his business. But I think somebody on this

662
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: show even said it last week, it's once it starts

663
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: affecting their business. Not it's a whole different matter. And

664
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: you're losing games because they're not there. Now it's affecting

665
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: their business. And that's what particularly the quarterback has to

666
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: be aware of, even more so than these other position

667
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: players right around the time that I was starting to

668
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: get really anti that the tank situation was gonna mess

669
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: up the season, he signed his deal and that's just

670
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a cliche, but like, nothing happens until

671
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: it happens, and we're gonna wake up one morning to

672
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: find out that the ink is dry on the contract.

673
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys love deadlines. They worked towards they really do, which

674
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: is why the DeMarcus Lawrence thing was so refreshing because

675
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: they didn't happen that way. So maybe hopefully they were like, man,

676
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: that was really great to just kind of get out

677
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: in front of it. Let's do that again. But no,

678
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: they actually did kind of work to what a deadline

679
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, and the deadline for

680
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: the surgery, like that was what was shame on Probably

681
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: shame on me for thinking that they operated any other way. Um,

682
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: all right, that ran along, not there's anything wrong with that,

683
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: but as long as let's let's just hammer are all

684
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of this out, because oh what's up? One of the

685
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: things that you mentioned, it just kept resonating in my head.

686
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, these guys do make the Cowboys

687
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money, big time. And another thing, Dak

688
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: again we don't know all the details of the contract.

689
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: But aside from the money that is being talked about,

690
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: you got all these brands and what is it like

691
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: companies that want to sponsor you. That's a big part

692
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: of that makes a ton of money. That's a big

693
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: part of the Cowboys pitch is the things that come

694
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: along with being the Cowboys. Quarterback, Campbell, soup, woants you.

695
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on the Sports Center commercials, You're gonna

696
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott is in like eight different commercials,

697
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: the Oikos yogurt stuff with the Yeah, so that sizeable contracts,

698
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, sizeable endorsements, that's not gonna stop him. Well

699
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: by the end of the day. I mean, if you

700
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: start adding everything, you're probably making the most money out

701
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: of all the And that's that's the argument that the

702
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys make, Like they've said, like what their argument is,

703
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: if we pay you top five, being with the Cowboys

704
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: will help you to the top one because nobody else,

705
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: no other brand in professional sports, really has the power

706
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys brand does. So if you use

707
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: it properly and stay out of trouble so that you

708
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: actually are marketable, then you have the ability to make

709
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: that distance up. Let's think about this too. He gets

710
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: hurt in the first game, do the Cowboys still do

711
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: a big deal? Who they? I think? I think they will.

712
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: I think so, Okay, does all these sponsors that I

713
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: want to talk to him about the different things? I mean,

714
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: if he's got contracts, he's got contracts, but some of

715
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: the things that his agent's been talking still marketable. It's

716
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: about this base. If he's not playing, no no, no no, no, no,

717
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: not this year. Hey, let's hold off on that. You

718
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: know we could do that commercial still here? Yeah, I honestly,

719
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I've seen I mean I've seen guys that have been

720
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: hurt that still had endorsements. Like I don't think it

721
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: just goes away. There guys that retire and still have endorsements.

722
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: It's about the name recognition. Do you have name recognition?

723
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: And what do people think of you when they hear

724
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: your name. If it's good thoughts, then you are marketable

725
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: and people want you'd endorse their product. I'm just saying

726
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: if if there's somebody that's wanted to do a deal

727
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: with Dak and they're gonna shoot a commercial and then

728
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: he gets hurt and they're not doing it. We're not

729
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna do with this. I don't I disagree with that.

730
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a guy in crutches do a

731
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: commercial in October when he's not going to have him

732
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: sit down. He doesn't have to have crutches when he's

733
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: sitting down. The point is, I don't think that kills

734
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: his deals. Like it doesn't kill them, but I think

735
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: it shelves them, just like I don't talk about the

736
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Campbell's would be like, we still love you, but we're

737
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna put Todd Gurley in the commerce. His name is

738
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: still his name, his reputations. Okay, Okay, Marlow, I hear you.

739
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: You think you think what many people out there got

740
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: that reference? A few? Yeah? I fe they'll tweet us

741
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: and say, Marlow Stanfield let's go um, all right, Well

742
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: now we're really short on time, but I think it's

743
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: never short on time. As much as as much as

744
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: we talk about the Big Three, twenty twenty is going

745
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: to be fascinating just in terms of how many guys

746
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: on this team are not under contract. These these are

747
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: just some like it's it's even longer less than this,

748
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: but Lyle Collins Byron Jones, Robert Quinn, Jeff Heath, Randall Cobb,

749
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Jason Witton, j Joe Thomas, Malik Collins, Shawn Lee, LP Lattiser,

750
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, Xavier Sue a Filo up this year, Anthony Brown,

751
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. That doesn't include Jalen Smith and Antoine Woods,

752
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: who both have restricted deals. Yeah. So my question, I'm

753
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna I'm I was gonna go down the whole list,

754
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: but Mike, I'm gonna pose a couple. Lyle Collins. Does

755
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: his future lie here? I don't think. Now, with everything

756
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: you got on the on the campage, I think you're right. Uh,

757
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: here's okay, here's a good one. Jeff Heath been on

758
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: what kind of deal? Yeah, if you're getting the middle

759
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: of the road deal, I don't see why not, I

760
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: think Jeff Heath, Yeah, I think he'll sign that. I

761
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: think it'll be a middle of the road deal. Would

762
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: you sign him to the same type of deal he

763
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: signed last time, four years, seven million? Yeah, yeah, unless

764
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: I got a better option, which again that'll have to

765
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, that'll have something to do with the draft

766
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: and if I if I can get him to be

767
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: number three, and if I could get him to be

768
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: number three and a special teams guy. That would be ideal. Yeah,

769
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 1: I agree with that. But you've been trying to replace him. Well,

770
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say you. I think the general consensus among

771
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: fans and media is they've been looking for an option

772
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: to replace him for years and haven't found one. I

773
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: honestly believe, honestly believe, if you get the kind of

774
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: play out of Xavier Woods this year that I hope

775
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: he that I think he will have, then Jeff Heath

776
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: becomes a really good number two. And I think you're

777
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: okay with that number two, Jeff. If Xavier is playing

778
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: to that level and getting the turnovers and actually making

779
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: those plays a change game. If you signed Lyle to

780
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: a big deal or a fair deal, whatever it is,

781
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: and then you're sitting let's say you had the twenty

782
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft, would you want to take

783
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle? If he's the best player there, don't

784
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: window dress your board, Nick, Well, is he gonna play though?

785
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh no? Not if you resign Lyle. Now you're signing

786
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: l and Tyrant's played, you know, great, and then twenty

787
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: fourth pick, You're like, not going to do that. But

788
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: if you resign Heath and the twenty fourth pick is

789
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: a safety and it's a guy. It's really good that

790
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you like, you're gonna take it still take it, so

791
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: so that kind of answers my question. I just I

792
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: don't sign heat to a deal that I don't have

793
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: to worry about signing another guy. Here's one for you,

794
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: a g Jason Witten and Sean Lee. I think most

795
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: people assume that this is the last year of their career.

796
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: Is there any chance that that's not true? You see

797
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: them here longer than twenty nineteen, I don't know. I mean,

798
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: and maybe depending maybe another one year deal, depending how

799
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: he does this year. Sean Lee just hiring him as

800
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: a coach, I'm ready for defensive coach. Not that I

801
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: mean he's a great player, don't get me wrong. Yeah,

802
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: what's interesting looking at your list? I mean, when you

803
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: go over most of those guys, when you separate them

804
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: most of them, not everyone, you can feel like, Okay,

805
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: this guy can be replaced kind of easy. But then

806
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: once you put the whole list together, I mean, you're

807
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: replacing a ton of guys like that really changed your

808
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: whole team. And the interesting part about that is, outside

809
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: of Byron and Lyell and Quinn. Of the guys that

810
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: are that are unrestricted free agents, maybe Malik is in

811
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: that category. You don't think you're talking about big deals

812
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: like right, the market for them probably is not going

813
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: to be a big DEALBA market for them is probably

814
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: going to be middle of the row, which is the

815
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys have shown they can do those kinds of deals

816
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: and kind of resign their own. It's a hard conversation

817
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: to have in August, though, because you know, if this

818
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: defense really rocks, I mean, if if MALIEK. Collins gets

819
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: eight sacks and goes to the Pro Bowl and this

820
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: team's in the playoffs, changes the conversations Anthony Brown if

821
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: he gets four interceptions for this defense. The tricky one

822
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: is Malik and I could see where the Cowboys could

823
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: try and do a Tyrone Crawford type thing. And I

824
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: also will say, Jay Ratliffe, they tried this on. These

825
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: guys will get out in front of it, try to

826
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: try to sign them now. And does does Malik say,

827
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: well that's pretty decent guaranteed money might want to take it,

828
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: or do they bet on themselves and say I might

829
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: have a blow up beer and and then I need

830
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot more than that from an optics standpoint, could

831
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Could the Cowboys get away with doing a

832
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: deal let's stay with Malik out here at camp right now,

833
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: with all those other three kind of hanging out there

834
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: and not being done. Just from an optic standpoint, that

835
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: would be, Oh, they don't care about optics. No, no, no,

836
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: but that would be funny. But from a negotiation standpoints

837
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: that helped them? Does that hurt them with those other

838
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: three deals? How does that? How does that affect those

839
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: other three deals? I'll take the word right out of

840
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones's mouth and just like they know, we can

841
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: do as many contracts as we want. We've got the space.

842
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out that it all makes sense to them.

843
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Why I asked him to his face, I was like,

844
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: can you really do three contracts at once like this?

845
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: He's like, we can do four, we can do five.

846
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they could. I don't know if

847
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: they will do it one big stage. God, that would

848
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: be awesome. And they call the press conference, We're all like, Okay,

849
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: we got it done in this Malik. Yeah, I would

850
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,479
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Speaker 1: we are back on the break. It is a third segment.

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Speaker 1: It is time to take fan questions. Let's try to

903
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: hit as many of these as possible, because we're usually

904
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: pretty bad at that, so I asked for questions. Y'all

905
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: did not let it down your hosting. It should go

906
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: pretty quick, good point. So let's let's do it. I'm

907
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna nope, stop, nope, nope, not to let you do it.

908
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna go. She got him. I only think he

909
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: even knew. It does not mean yeah, wait you dig it?

910
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, I think she did hosted because starting look,

911
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I got a lot of opinions about stuff. My buddy

912
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Connor wants to know. Let's assume six wide receivers make

913
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the team, which is more plausible now that Rico's gone

914
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Just I mean, it's hard to imagine

915
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: them carrying four tight ends. Uh, let's say Cooper, Gallup,

916
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: Cob and Tavon Austin are locks. Again. Feels like a

917
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: safe bet. Who are the other two receivers that make

918
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: this Cooper with the other three? Um, yeah, okay, got

919
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think so, Yeah, I think so. We've

920
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot. We just put up Yeah,

921
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: we just did a top top eleven. Actually, we did

922
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: a ranking on the site of this wide receivers. I

923
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: think to read it right now, Um, and Tavon is

924
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: or you said five and six. I think as it stands,

925
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: I think four through nine will will could change with

926
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: one or two good or bad plays, But as it

927
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: stands right now, I'd say five is and this is

928
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: to make the team. I say, Noah Brown and because

929
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: they love him, and John Vay Johnson is at a

930
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: six right now? I think, I absolutely, well, we all

931
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: did the list, so yeah, we came together on it.

932
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: But but you know, ninth on the list is a

933
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Boise I can't remember his name, Cedric I cannot remember

934
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: his name. He could make a couple of big plays

935
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: and jump in there too. But also makes sense of

936
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: what we knew of this this staff, right, they like

937
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: guys that they have relied on. They like veteran guys.

938
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: So he started talking about a Tavon, They may trust

939
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: them a little bit more to get back there and

940
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: catch that punt than they do. You know, a young

941
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: guy that's coming up that that could or couldn't right,

942
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: And we know they love Noah Brown for whatever reason

943
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: they love Noah Brown. I will say, part of it

944
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: is he does the dirty work that you don't have

945
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers on this guy that is the

946
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: only guy with his body type, and he can do

947
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: the dirty work, right, So all that, so all those things,

948
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: when you really start breaking it down, it's not so

949
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: much about what's happening out here as much as it

950
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: is about kind of how they tend to build their team.

951
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: And I think it all makes sense from that standpoint.

952
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Nathaniel wants to know what's going on with Connor McGovern.

953
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Haven't seen him. I want to know that too. Something

954
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: is he still dealing with the whole chest thing. Starting

955
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: to wonder if he should have been a pup guy.

956
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm if I'm not mistaken that he can

957
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: still be at walk through and stuff if he's on

958
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: pup right or is that not true? Actually it might

959
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: not be true. It's not. You can't do that, So

960
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: he is. That's that's why he's not on pumps so

961
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: he can take part in learning this. He's got to

962
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: be close. He was in pads full pads the other

963
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: day during the scrimmage going through some of the individual drills,

964
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: so I can't I can't think he's too far along.

965
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate because Zach Martin obviously is out. Cody

966
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Wenchman always say it wrong. I think it's Wykeman, but

967
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't quote me on that. But let's be real,

968
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: this was a twenty twenty pick. I mean, this pick.

969
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: This is a pick that they they're gonna need next year,

970
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: especially if what we just talked about with Lyel becomes fact.

971
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: That's when they need him, so they don't need to

972
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: rush him in right now. They want him learning, so

973
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: you want him out here and learning. But that's the

974
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: other they get into the regular season. They still have

975
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: practices every day and we don't get to see all

976
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: of those. But he's gonna be practicing throughout this year.

977
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: He's going to get an opportunity to be getting himself.

978
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: He's the brown of the tide of the offensive. Yea,

979
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: by next year, he's gonna make it here every ready

980
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: by next year. If they need him for next year,

981
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna. I think he's gonna be wearing a lot

982
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: of baseball hats on the sidelines this year. Um, Mike

983
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: wants to know, with so much depth on this team,

984
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: what's a position that could get short changed? As in

985
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: going light when they make their roster cuts, it's a

986
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: good one quarterback quarterback, I hope, so I hope that's true.

987
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's getting short changed, you know,

988
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: it's accurately changed, like they don't need more than two. Yeah,

989
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: when you you know, when you think about, yeah, doubling

990
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: however many starters you've got, you know, I mean you'll

991
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks. I think that's probably good. But but

992
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: but that's not really what he's trying to ask. He's

993
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: trying to ask another position, and I think four. I

994
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: think four is a lock like Jay's Jamayzolo Wally is

995
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: your fullback. And three because you know, you might keep

996
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: extra corners and I don't know if you'll I mean

997
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: because I think we talked about the secondary yesterday, and

998
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I mean, they did nine last year.

999
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: If they feel really good about their you know, front

1000
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: of the line guys, I could see him do nine,

1001
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: especially you know, if you want to keep ten or

1002
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: eleven on the defensive line, which seems possible, I could

1003
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: see that. And then now tight end, I would have

1004
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: to imagine they're going with three tight ends. So you

1005
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: got throw us up there real quick. I just noticed

1006
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: this on Twitter. Our sister station, or I don't know

1007
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: if you call our sister station, but our flagship station,

1008
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: the Fan. They are interviewing Stephen Jones right now, and

1009
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh. I assume he's doing the interview. He just tweeted.

1010
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones says there's no current momentum to make it

1011
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: feel like any deals get done in Oxnard. M That's

1012
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: interesting a little bit to me. I don't I don't

1013
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: like that, but but again like to hear once again

1014
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: once again, that's all part of the negotiation process. Like

1015
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: you throw things out there and you kind of hope

1016
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: that then other people hear them, and it starts to

1017
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: get them to maybe move a little bit more because

1018
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: the one thing we keep hearing is they aren't talking,

1019
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: like they're just not communicating. Maybe this spurs a little

1020
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: bit more conversation. I don't know, but that's at least

1021
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: what with Jeff's tweeting here on one or five o

1022
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: three the fan you can't believe everything you hear. I mean,

1023
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: there's two sides to every story. But like it's certain

1024
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are trying to project. They're like, we want

1025
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: to give you money, Come let us give you money,

1026
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: and this players are we want more. The players are like, yeah,

1027
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: but tell him what the guarantee is, Stephen. That's that's

1028
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: probably the reality of the situation, right. Um. I would

1029
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: love these players like Dak mr Too just drop a

1030
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: sentence in there when you interview them. Quit saying like, oh,

1031
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not worry about it. I'm a you know manager.

1032
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: If Dad start dealing with that, if Dak Prescott was like, yeah,

1033
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: tell like, get him to tell you what they guarantee,

1034
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: and the last offer was, oh my god, that would

1035
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: be gold? Is that what your savage? He would not

1036
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: do No, he would never, He would never. My buddy

1037
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Pash wants to know at what point did they bring

1038
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: real competition to camp at Kicker? Personally, I don't think

1039
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: they will not out here. I don't think you need it.

1040
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to bring in the competition.

1041
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: They know they I mean get it. I mean if

1042
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: he's going to get a chance to go out there,

1043
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: if he misses the Kicks in San Francisco, then they'll

1044
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: have another guy in here. Do you think that maybe

1045
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: part of this because it seems it baffles me a

1046
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: little bit that they didn't bring in just another leg

1047
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: just just they can see him against him to be

1048
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: able to kind of create that pressure and that kind

1049
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: of thing. But does it do you think that maybe

1050
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to in all of this to make

1051
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: he build up his confidence because they feel like he's

1052
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: a better kicker kicker when he's more confident, and they

1053
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: want to build that confidence. You are our guy, you know,

1054
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: or our guy you are guys, there might be something

1055
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: to that because they've always said his confidence is what

1056
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: they like the most about him, Like he doesn't get

1057
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: down on himself far out. Yeah, it's like, what's this

1058
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: And it's almost like he maybe lose his focus or

1059
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: something when he gets down closer, takes it a little

1060
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: bit from ground. I don't know, I'm throwing out. Yeah,

1061
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: I just I really don't understand why they wouldn't have

1062
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: brought in more competition for him, especially a team that

1063
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: always talks about the fact that they are about creating

1064
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: competition at every position. And it doesn't seem like they

1065
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: did in this instance at the kicker position. No, that

1066
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: this is normally what they do. This is how what

1067
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: they do. Um, they bring in a guy that can

1068
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: do both, that can kind of help the kicker and

1069
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: help the punter without using a roster spot. Yeah, but

1070
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like this is a dual threat guy.

1071
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Casey Redford is really more of a punter. He's not

1072
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: much of a kicker. He's not really given him much

1073
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: as far as kicking goes, other than a did just

1074
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: just take somebody's extra point tries and stuff like that.

1075
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Ames says, give me some surprising names on the chopping block.

1076
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: Which we talk about everything with this team, so we've

1077
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably not going to be a big

1078
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: surprise because we just talk about everything, but because we

1079
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: get three weeks to do it. But give me names anyway,

1080
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, Wow, that would be a surprise. Wow, I

1081
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: appreciate your moxie. It would from way back. Yeah. I

1082
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: don't think it would be a chopping block. I think

1083
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: they would do it in a delicate way, press conference

1084
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: like entirement. It's the injury is It's just it's gonna

1085
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: have to put them on this list or I R

1086
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: for eight weeks type thing or something where you know,

1087
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: they just I don't think they need to do it

1088
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: for money. Standpoint, No, they don't. But that would be

1089
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: a surprise, and it would surprise me. I'm not saying

1090
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: that's what they should do. I asked for a surprise name,

1091
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: and you gave it to me. I asked some about

1092
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: you know, we do you want Kerry Hyder? I mean

1093
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: all day at these practices, you know, we're standing around

1094
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: watching and talking to each other and feeling feeling out ideas.

1095
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: And I was having this conversation with somebody. I was like,

1096
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: is there any chance that Witten wouldn't make it all

1097
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: the way to the final roster. And and like we were,

1098
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, Sean Lee's a possibility. So and

1099
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: so is a possibility. I brought up Witton and they

1100
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: were like, no, that's not happening. What about you? I mean,

1101
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: can you dream of some somebody like a dream scenario?

1102
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: I say that, not dream like I want people to

1103
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: know I'm joking because of what you said today. And oh,

1104
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think I had a dream

1105
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: that they cut Robert Quinn. Like that's that's where I'm

1106
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: at the point where I'm dreaming about roster moves. And

1107
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: as last night was, you know, can be like a

1108
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: dream was a little foggy too, So did we talk

1109
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: about that? I was like, did somebody say that to me?

1110
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Or did I just make it up? I think I

1111
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: made it up. That would shock me. I got Well

1112
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: for you, you think there's any possibility that Darius Jackson,

1113
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: who started camp as the guy getting the number one reps,

1114
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: ends up not on this team? Yes? Absolutely? Is that

1115
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: a just yeah? Just think about where he started to

1116
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: where he would be if he got cut like that.

1117
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: It seems to be a little bit of a precipitous drop,

1118
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: but it but he's started at number one because the

1119
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: real number one's not here, and I mean we've said

1120
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: it a million times. And then they also signed out well,

1121
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,479
Speaker 1: and then that's that's why I think four is four

1122
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: running backs is a lock because I think I think

1123
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: the people upstairs at least at the Star of I

1124
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: know there's nobody above us right now, but the people

1125
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: upstairs at the Star saw what C. J. Anderson did

1126
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: to them in the playoffs, and I think that resonated

1127
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: with them. I think they liked the idea of having

1128
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: a capable, you know, every man backup who can do

1129
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: that type of stuff that they need him to. There

1130
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: will be a former pro bowler that gets released. That's

1131
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: not really saying much because because uh, Alfred Mars, two

1132
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: time pro bowler. Yeah that's fair. Um, Nathaniel another Nathaniel

1133
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: too today says, uh, what do you feel the worst

1134
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: about this team in terms of depth? Not starters, but

1135
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: what position has the worst depth? Easy? Quarterback? M hmm, yeah,

1136
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: good point. If you want to take quarterback out, you

1137
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: probably have a better conversation. But yeah, quarterback, and forget quarterback,

1138
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: forget quarter well just just think about you know, the

1139
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: drop off Zeke to Pollard or Alfred Morris is Darius

1140
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Jackson de Marris, Zeke Morris, Udac to Cooper, Tyrn Smith

1141
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: to Cam Fleming. The ta tackle depth on this team

1142
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: is not inspiring. Who starts no butts in front of it?

1143
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: Who starts after Layton Joe Thomas? Yeah? Probably, I don't

1144
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: think quarterback like quarterback is the biggest drop off in

1145
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: my opinion. Now, if you want to get to the

1146
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: next position, I would I would start to talk about safety.

1147
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: I you talked about it yesterday. You don't really feel

1148
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: great about either one of those safeties being the guy

1149
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: out down every down kind of basis other than the

1150
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: two starters. So you know, I'd say safety for me

1151
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: would probably be the next one. Okay, what is a

1152
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: position of depth that could get traded when it comes

1153
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: down to it, roster cuts and such. I was told

1154
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: last night by some people that defensive line is going

1155
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: to be the toughest position to cut in years for

1156
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: this team years. So when you think about that, maybe

1157
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: some guys with a little bit of trade value there.

1158
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, that's a good question, Pens And then that

1159
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: didn't run into like what teams are off what teams

1160
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: want see. Last year was a little tricky because you

1161
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't think you would go you would trade the court,

1162
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: you would trade the rookie for something. You would kind

1163
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: of keep the rookie and see what you can get.

1164
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: But last year they did the opposite and traded Trevarius

1165
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: war to the Chiefs, which was kind of a surprising

1166
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: move because he was having a good camp, but not

1167
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: a great camp. I think that was a little bit desperate,

1168
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: just because of what happened to Travis Frederick. They traded

1169
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: him for an offensive lineman who wound up not even playing.

1170
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: But the reason why I say that is, let's say

1171
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: that everybody's kind of you know, Hyder's doing some good

1172
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: things and it sounds like he's turning some heads, and

1173
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: they love Chris Covington Christian, But then what about Joe

1174
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Jackson and Jelks and those guys? Which wise which one

1175
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: would you like? You would feel like, if you're gonna trade,

1176
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: you'd trade the veteran, right, you would think, although you know,

1177
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: as good as Jelks and Joe Jackson might be like

1178
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: what are they doing for you? On game day? Like?

1179
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: Are they really far enough along? In their development that

1180
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: they're going to get a jersey and make an impact.

1181
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: Whereas if he makes the team, I trust that Carry

1182
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: Hyder is going to have a role. I mean, he's

1183
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: been there and done that, whereas Jalen Jelks might be

1184
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: a baseball hat kind of guy. And how much does

1185
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: it factor in that this year if they believe this,

1186
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: which I think they probably do, they feel like they

1187
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: have a team that can really go somewhere. Do you

1188
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: maybe as opposed to other years where you're willing to

1189
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: kind of mortgage them now for the future. This may

1190
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: be a U and they're like push all the chipsy

1191
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: and old agents because yeah, because you don't know what

1192
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: the future is gonna be, and we got the team

1193
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: right now, so let's go all in. You know. That

1194
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: being said, though, you can look at the other way,

1195
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: look at all those free agents on that list. You know,

1196
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: you need some guys that some of these young players

1197
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: that you can keep because if you if you decide

1198
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: to keep let's say, a Carrie Hider over a Jalen Jokes,

1199
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: a guy that a veteran player who's going to probably

1200
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: be an active either way, or do you keep it?

1201
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, because next year. Is Hider going to be

1202
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: your guy? Or would The lifeblood with the CBA, the

1203
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: way it is the lifeblood of a good team is

1204
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: rookie contracts, good players on long, cheap contracts, so which

1205
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: you're getting at point now that's about to run out.

1206
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: They're about to have everybody, but you just all like,

1207
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: no pressure will but you gotta keep hitting on these

1208
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: draft picks if you're gonna start paying these people. But

1209
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: also to answer that question, don't throw out maybe cornerback again,

1210
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe a Jordan Lewis or maybe an

1211
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown who's only got one year left on his deal.

1212
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Maybe something like that if they if they felt like

1213
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson was playing, well, yeah, but I wouldn't do it.

1214
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that, not with the injury to Byron Jones,

1215
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I just I keep a lot. You

1216
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: can never have too many good corners. One last one

1217
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: for Lance because he tweeted me during the show, shout

1218
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: out to Lance. You've seen anything more from Tristan Hill

1219
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: since the last time we talked about him. I know

1220
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli called him the caboose on the train getting

1221
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, got us speed up or get left behind.

1222
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen him flash a little bit

1223
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: more here over the last couple days. He's pooped up

1224
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: to the food cart, they said, and they and Marinelli said,

1225
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: he's got the menu now. Oh, is that I must

1226
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: have missed that. He doesn't have like the hat like sideways,

1227
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, saying all aboard or whatever. But he's he's

1228
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: moving his way. I've seen him a little more often.

1229
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good in one on ones the other day.

1230
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged. Yeah, I think you'll be fine. I mean

1231
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: that the first and Rookie about him, what do you

1232
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: mean other than maybe the way he plays? But rod

1233
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: would he looks young. He looks like you're right, But

1234
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: his demeanor and stuffing didn't. He seemed like he's kind

1235
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: of been here four or five years. I actually say

1236
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: the opposite. I think he seems like I look at

1237
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: his face and he's like, oh, there's baby fat. And

1238
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: not saying all that. I'm not saying he's not he

1239
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have some of that going with him. I'm just

1240
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: saying he's's demeanor, he's not like yes, yes, sort no,

1241
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: certain means just well, you know, it was interests comfortable,

1242
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: He was comfortable. I was. I was in a quick story,

1243
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I was in a h I was. I was behind

1244
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: the scenes the other day and the team was Actually

1245
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: we had a company out that's a partner of ours,

1246
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: reveal suits, and they were fitting some guys for suits,

1247
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: and and so Tristan's in there and then walks the

1248
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: hot boys. Right, you got on the marcause you got Crawford,

1249
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: you got all of them, right and uh. And so

1250
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: that they're talking to Tristan about his suit and everything,

1251
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: and one of the people fitting him says, so, are

1252
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: you one of the hot boys? And when I tell

1253
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: you real quick, He's like, no, no no, no, I'm not.

1254
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a member of the hot Boys. I'm not.

1255
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: And they are all standing back there looking at him

1256
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: to see what he's gonna say, because you know, they

1257
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: hold that really tight. You don't just become a hot

1258
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: boy because you get draft after or because you played

1259
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: the position. You gotta earn your way in. So it

1260
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: was just like you could tell like he has a

1261
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: he knows his place. He knows that I'm not in

1262
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: the club yet I got to earn my way into

1263
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: the club. And that said a lot to me about

1264
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of how he's probably approaching this and how they

1265
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: probably treat him like, dude, you just because you were

1266
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: a second round pick that means very little. You gotta

1267
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: earn this, like the O line. You don't just get

1268
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: to walk out with the big dogs right away. All right,

1269
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: That is all the time we have for Tuesday's break.

1270
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow. There's a football practice today,

1271
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: so we will talk about football instead of contracts, but

1272
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: we'll still probably talk about some contracts, so whatever. Anyway,

1273
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: by this has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

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01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.