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Speaker 1: Content warning. This podcast discusses violence, murder, suicide, civil unrest,

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Speaker 1: aggressive policing, racism, and lynching. If you or anyone you

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Speaker 1: know is considering suicide or self harm, or just need

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Speaker 1: to talk about problems, please call the National Suicide Prevention

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Speaker 1: Lifeline at one eight hundred two seventy three eight two

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Speaker 1: four one seven four one. It was October sixteenth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. Then I decided to lay down in despare bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Danie was in the kitchen having a discussion with his

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Speaker 1: uncle Danny. I ended up having a crazy dream about

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Speaker 1: a anther and the panther was pulling on my hand,

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Speaker 1: holding on my hand and arms, and we were trying

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Speaker 1: to hold each other. And I woke up to my

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Speaker 1: arm and hands throbbing, and it hurt it so bad.

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Speaker 1: And the dream, the dream, it's get it alarmed me.

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Speaker 1: It scared me so bad that I decided to call

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Speaker 1: my husband, Derek at work. He finally walked in the door,

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Speaker 1: which was probably thirty to forty minutes later. When he

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Speaker 1: I'm the type of mother where I'm very specific about

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Speaker 1: leaving the power on because I know that it runs

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Speaker 1: the build up. Knowing that it was I that the

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Speaker 1: lights were still on in the basement. Derek, he yells

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Speaker 1: down for Danyae and there was no answer, and he says,

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Speaker 1: Danyae is not down there. So I'm like what. I

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Speaker 1: run downstairs myself and I didn't see Danyae, but I

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Speaker 1: saw the brick by his sleeping area, and so I

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Speaker 1: get alarm, like was this brick? And I run up

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Speaker 1: I opened up the porch door and something tells me

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Speaker 1: have been the sunshining down just rising and I see, uh,

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Speaker 1: some legs. Did she think? What was wrong at all?

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Speaker 1: A baby? And men? Damn? Hello? Keep coming with going

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Speaker 1: on like you didn't get work with? Okay, hold the person?

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Speaker 1: You all right? I can't go get dny B. I

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Speaker 1: can't see him treating in the backyard. Oh can't you hate?

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Speaker 1: Good place? Got the ambulan? Yeah, just don't look like

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Speaker 1: other things. The guy have to want the boy to okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to its meaning, can go down. We'll move

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Speaker 1: him down now some minute, work down like this, we

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Speaker 1: like put up right. Hello, may court, you want to

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Speaker 1: not how to do more? You looking? What you're looking

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Speaker 1: at is the aftermath of the grand jury deciding not

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Speaker 1: to indict Officer Wilson. A young man found hanging from

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Speaker 1: a tree in October. His mom believes someone murdered her

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Speaker 1: son targeting him. Danye became an activist in the wake

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Speaker 1: of the shooting death of Michael Brown by a white

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Speaker 1: police officer. That's why Melissa mckinn is wants St. Louis

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Speaker 1: County police to dig deeper to her son's death. He

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Speaker 1: was not suicidal. This is after the uprising, the death

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Speaker 1: of Donye Dion Jones, And in my head, I was

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out, why would he do this?

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Speaker 1: It made no sense. Why would he do this? As

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Speaker 1: But for the life of me, I just couldnot figure

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Speaker 1: My brother and Derek especially was like it didn't even

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Speaker 1: I took like seven pictures. So that's why that's why

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Speaker 1: I hesitated someone. I'm like, we're more done to show you.

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Speaker 1: Anything else is like that that can happen after then,

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Speaker 1: everything that was that was there a shorts down is

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Speaker 1: him because he had the black eye. He was laughing

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Speaker 1: I said, is this what you guys? Do you find

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Speaker 1: had me sit on the couch. They said that I

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Speaker 1: why you remember that anything that struck you about being

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Speaker 1: almost as if my son wasn't dead. Did you get

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Speaker 1: the reason why is because he was nasty. He was

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Speaker 1: nasty more towards me than anybody it And and the

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Speaker 1: My neighbor saw, my family saw. It was almost like

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Speaker 1: a taunting because you can kind of like find something

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Speaker 1: made us have to really look into who was this detective.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a boisterous laugh. Yeah, yes, I just

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Speaker 1: remember being I was crying in and out. I was

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Speaker 1: out of it. But I do remember seeing the lead

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Speaker 1: to me, which was my husban Darry. I remember him

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Speaker 1: saying that it is what it looks like, it's going

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Speaker 1: don't understand, Like why I don't understand? And um, he said,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm trying to think what would be

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Speaker 1: not not protective, over protective, Danya. He would not do it,

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Speaker 1: especially so that I would find him. But why do

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Speaker 1: and I said, because his his business. He was downstairs

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Speaker 1: just doing um the Google search that I watched him.

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Speaker 1: I saw him looking at his phone at a video

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Speaker 1: about his business. He had just started his business. He

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Speaker 1: was so excited and they said, could have failed. I said,

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Speaker 1: talking to my brother. So he said, what was the

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Speaker 1: last conversation? I said, I remember him asking me to

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Speaker 1: I'll get it. I'll watch it. And so I remember

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Speaker 1: coming to the steps and when I saw him watching

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Speaker 1: But the last time I saw him, I was proud.

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Speaker 1: Melissa mckenneths wants St. Louis County police to dig deeper

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Speaker 1: into her son's death. On October seventeenth, and she found

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Speaker 1: depressed and was starting to real estate business. She believes

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Speaker 1: there's more to this story. McKennis, a prominent Ferguson activists,

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Speaker 1: told me she thinks her family is being targeted. In

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Speaker 1: threats through social media. The St. Louis County Cordner says

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Speaker 1: Danye's autopsy won't be ready for weeks and they will

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Speaker 1: not give news for any preliminary reports. St. Louis County

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Speaker 1: Police told us for now this remains a suicide investigation.

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Speaker 1: Both the family and police did say there was a

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Speaker 1: chair near his body. However, family members told me the

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Speaker 1: sheets used to hang him did not come from their

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Speaker 1: so they don't believe dan Ye would have been capable

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Speaker 1: of making Eleven days after his death, with Danye now

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Speaker 1: to do her Facebook page the photograph her brother Daniel

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Speaker 1: had taken of Danye hanging from the tree. She captioned it,

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Speaker 1: they lynched my baby. The post went viral, which spurred

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Speaker 1: a few local news outlets to interview Melissa at her home,

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Speaker 1: but most concluded that they would await the Medical Examiner's

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Speaker 1: office and their final report on the matter. Knowing how

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Speaker 1: had to get out in front of it. The mother

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Speaker 1: of Danie Jones how the press conference yesterday, hoping police

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Speaker 1: would dig further into the death of her son. Police

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Speaker 1: originally ruled his death a suicide, but his mother's insisting

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Speaker 1: she says he was murdered. A mother knows her son,

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Speaker 1: A mother knows her child. Danye Dione Jones would not

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Speaker 1: do that. Danye Diana Jones, full of energy, spunky, just

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Speaker 1: fore and you knew it. One by one. Danie's family

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Speaker 1: members stepped up to the microphone. First, his stepfather Derek.

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Speaker 1: One thing I know, he would never Dunythine moved close.

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Speaker 1: His uncle Daniel, Oh yeah, Jones, and my niece and

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Speaker 1: my other nephews. Very closest thing I have to my

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Speaker 1: own children, because I don't have any children. He had vision,

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Speaker 1: he had plans, vision to do the wholesale real estate.

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Speaker 1: They've been properties, his sister, Militia Na. We've been together

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Speaker 1: for his whole life, his whole like, and he loved us,

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Speaker 1: and he wouldn't go out that way. Melissa made sure

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Speaker 1: to lay out what she saw as contradictions to the

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Speaker 1: suicide hypothesis that was being put out by the police.

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Speaker 1: The data. It happened, he had enough on his face,

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Speaker 1: His wrists had invitations on him. Okay, his pants were

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Speaker 1: rolled down, not pooped down. They were rolled down. They

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Speaker 1: weren't scrubs. Weren't scrubs, they were pants. The knots and

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Speaker 1: the sheets that did not come from our home. We're

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Speaker 1: navy knots. My son was not in any military, not

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Speaker 1: a boy Scott, none of that. Finally, Melissa tried to

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Speaker 1: make it clear that they knew Danyae as only family could.

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Speaker 1: We're not a denial. We just know Danyelle. He was

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Speaker 1: with us. He was goofy with us. If you ever

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Speaker 1: saw him anything different than goofy's because he would not

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Speaker 1: open up to you and show his goofie side. But

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Speaker 1: my son was silly. He was silly, he was happy.

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Speaker 1: I know my son. To understand the story of Melissa

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Speaker 1: and Donya, we have to go back a little over

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Speaker 1: get you at the end of the night, one o'clock,

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00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning. How many people

429
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: we got with us, four or five of us fun

430
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: that we're not getting somebody sleeping on somebody couch. Bro,

431
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: I'll take you home in the morning. I ain't driving

432
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: through the county at night. And if and if I

433
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: do drive through the county, it's gonna be two people

434
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: in my car. I'm not rolling. I'm not riding five

435
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: beat four or four or five black dudes in a

436
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: car driving through North County. Bro. We're getting pulled over periods.

437
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: My brother got shot on Christmas Eves in Ferguson leaving

438
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: my mom's crib. My brother's land there leading out on

439
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: the parking lot, and he has to hear cops stepping

440
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: over him and you know, dropping in bombs, calling, you know,

441
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: filthy niggers. All they do is shoot each other. Uh,

442
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, who gives the funk? If he dies. He's

443
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: sitting here gasping his for his final breaths, possibly, and

444
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: they're asking him who shot you? You know? Who shot you?

445
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: You know? And that's just how we get treated, man,

446
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: That's just how we get treated. Test is younger than

447
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Melissa and older than Donya, but he did know Danya

448
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: and told us a bit about what he was like.

449
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't really a negative person and he was always

450
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of smiling. He was always on the goal. Uh.

451
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: He was a person that was doing things and he

452
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: had a very bright energy. He wasn't a part of

453
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: like anything drastically negative. Danye wasn't that type of person.

454
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to never see him again. When I

455
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: did see him, I didn't see him in transit doing

456
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: things where I would have to be like, yo, I'm

457
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: as to report back to his mom finding him in

458
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: the backyard hung up. I will say, that's the strangest

459
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: way that you could commit suicide. The whole situation, it's

460
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of I don't know. And that's why even

461
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: with this situation, more so than a lot of the

462
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: other situations where people are saying folks have mysteriously been

463
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: killed with Dan, hanging yourself in your backyard for a

464
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: young kid is a weird way for them to commit suicide.

465
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Man tying yourself up with a sheet and a chair.

466
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's stuff people do in jail, bro

467
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: when they when they know they're about the faith life,

468
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, life in North County and

469
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: his experience as an activist left to have feeling that

470
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the police wouldn't reliably look into the death of his cousin,

471
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: similar to when Darren Seals was killed. They didn't really

472
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: do an investigation. They're not going to really do an

473
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: investigation with this situation. I'm not saying that it did

474
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: did or didn't happen. I'm saying that on Danye. I'll

475
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: say it's very candidly knowing that this will make me

476
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: a target, saying it's coming out of my mouth. The

477
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: police here, they're not going to investigate adequate to investigate

478
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: the depth does any prominent activists or anybody attached to

479
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: those activists. I do feel like, when you start to

480
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: turn to the pages on the local police, you may

481
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: find some things. If I feel like, if there's something

482
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: to be discovered, I would not be surprised whatsoever if

483
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: the police have their dirty paws all over this. Hellos, Hi,

484
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: thanks for the callback. We reached out to Melissa in December,

485
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: two months after Danye died, hoping to picture on the

486
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: idea of a long form investigated podcast that could potentially

487
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: uncover new information about the death of her son. Now,

488
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: I remember you guys sending a message, but at the

489
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: time I was getting so many emails and messages and

490
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: all that mess and then I didn't know who to

491
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: trust because I wasn't trusting nobody. It's good that we

492
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: can tell about it now, but at that time I

493
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: was just I was in a very very bad space

494
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: about everybody that I came in contact with. You know,

495
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: John and I both had experience working as writers, researchers,

496
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: and documentary filmmakers. When we saw what happened to Donye

497
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: and that Melissa was making a call out wanting people

498
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: to help her draw attention to the situation, we figured

499
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: we'd get in touch. When she called us back, I

500
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: was at a gas station. Our goal is to to

501
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: to make a podcast that will spend like a deep

502
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: amount of time exploring what happened with your son. This

503
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: probably needs a couple of people who have a little

504
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: bit of investigative skills, who know how to like, who

505
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: will actually spend some time. I don't know how you

506
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: feel about what I just said, but sure, I guess

507
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: we can work on it. You know, those people all

508
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: that were sitting outdoors, sitting outside at home, and it

509
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: in taken into consideration. Um, that man he had been

510
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: threatened before because he had the break um by dead

511
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: like he was waiting for somebody. A lot of people

512
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: keep asking why did I take his picture? Um? And

513
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: I didn't take his picture. My brother did a question

514
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: that people ask all the time, you know, um, why

515
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: did I put it out? And which I don't even

516
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: understand why they don't understand wolves because if I hadn't

517
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: put it out, it would have been just like all

518
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: of the other is something that oh wow, that's horrible

519
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: thing that happened another person, and then that that's it.

520
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: But I just know that the one detective that gave

521
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: us his business card where he loved the one with

522
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: a black guy did not give us his business card,

523
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: gave us UM a card for the airport police. That's

524
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: the one that gave us the most problem. I don't

525
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: want to say so much talk about a lot of

526
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: things over the phone, so okay, thank you, alright, alright back. Wow.

527
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Melissa was interested in talking, but not on her phone.

528
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: We asked if she would be more comfortable if we

529
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: sent her a burner phone, and she said yes. We

530
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: shipped one off to her and waited. In the meantime,

531
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: the St. Louis County Medical Examiners report on Danya's death

532
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: was released and found, just as Melissa suspected it would,

533
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: that Dane had died by suicide. We called the St.

534
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Louis County Police for a comment. Hey you're talking police. Hi,

535
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much for getting back to me on

536
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: This is Sergeant show On McGuire, who was then a

537
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: spokesman for County p D. It's still an active investigation

538
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: for us, but we've but we've been ever since the

539
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: start of this in our detectives. What crimes against persons,

540
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: you know where they're they're the ones that were called

541
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: to the scene. UM, all signs right off the bad

542
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: point that this was a suicide. So I kind of

543
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: remained that as the investigation continued, as an investigation even

544
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: proceeded from there, um after they talked to family and

545
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: friends and physical evidence at the scene, and now even

546
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: the medical examiners report has been released. Obviously that's a

547
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: big part of our case as well. Um. But but

548
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that it never really lost

549
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: focus on it being a suicide. And we were pretty

550
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: straightforward on ever since the beginning on that when when

551
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: his mother was out on social media. And that's the

552
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: thing here about to John, I mean, we we're not

553
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: really releasing too much of this is why it's a suicide,

554
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: and you know, this is what we have and this

555
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: is what we found out about don Ye and that

556
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: type of stuff, because it doesn't really help anybody. Know,

557
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: we understand that his family and friends are are going

558
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: through a rough time, especially you know, weeks after after

559
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: this kind of breaks and she's you know, going to

560
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: social media and trying to say that you know, people

561
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: murdered her son and that type of stuff, and you know,

562
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: we just we never get into those kind of engagements

563
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: with a victims, uh family, We're not gonna be We

564
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: don't win anything on that. We know what the back

565
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: to the case are. We know, you know, what the

566
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Texas are investigating and what they saw and who they

567
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: talked to and the medical Examberage report and all that

568
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So we we never are ever going

569
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: to go out there and say, well, you know, Johnnie's

570
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: mom is wrong now at this moment, are you know?

571
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: With the medical examerage report being released, that helps with

572
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: our investigation. So now it's more more or less of

573
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: pretty much completing the paperwork and once that paperwork is done,

574
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: you'll be able to request a copy. It's just it's

575
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: still active right now. About how long do you think

576
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: it will be until it's closed and the report becomes available.

577
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: They talked to the lieutenant in that and he said

578
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: it's more or less it could be a week down

579
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: the road, that could be a month down the road.

580
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't really know. I don't really have a good

581
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: time frame for you. And not saying that Danie isn't

582
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: the form to us, but it's one of those things

583
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: of them just having time to finishing up their report, um,

584
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, and administratively, and that's kind of where we're

585
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: at right now. Sergeant McGuire seemed very confident that the

586
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: Medical Examiner's office had gotten it right, and his statement

587
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: makes it seem like a lot of people who had

588
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: the low down on Danyae's life and mental state had

589
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: spoken with the police, and that these conversations gave detectives

590
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: confidence in their suicide hypothesis. He made it seem like

591
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: it would all be laid bare in a few short

592
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: weeks when the police issued their final report on the matter.

593
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I did want to ask about one more thing though

594
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: she claims that in the time leading up to his death,

595
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: that there were like threats against her family or that

596
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: they were like menacing people who had been around her home,

597
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: was that it all looked at um. I believe that

598
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: was looked at eventually. She did not report that stuff

599
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: immediately to detectives. It's part of her in this investigation.

600
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: They didn't know anything about that. And as time went on,

601
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: when she she had the public Facebook post and told

602
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: Facebook and said us, um, you know, that's that's when

603
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: obviously detectives were interested in talking to her about that.

604
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: But it was definitely looked into eventually. The only way

605
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: that I would hear Danielle's voices if I would make

606
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: myself here, you know. Then I would not hear him

607
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: saying my or hear him laughing downstairs, you know, because

608
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: he would be down and watching TV. And now I

609
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: hear his crazy laugh. Sometimes I can see him and

610
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: the kids should talking to Dick. Sometimes I can hear

611
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: see him on the red chase with his feet, his

612
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: long legs and his feet, you know. That was his

613
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: favorite seat in the house, was the ran chase, and

614
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: he would sitting there chasing. When he talked. He had

615
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: this very very deep voice, big boy before years old

616
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: yet and I were here. Sometimes I were here him

617
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: and Militia and Javad with that inside jokes, and they'll

618
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: all be just giggling and laughing so hard, and I'm

619
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: just sitting there like I want to laugh, but they

620
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to say certain things because it probably was dirty. Yeah,

621
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: but I can always say him laughing and so like,

622
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm into now, it's not that we're

623
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: into now. My son was just at a place in

624
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: his life that he was more excited than I've ever

625
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: seen him. He had something that he really was looking

626
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: forward to. He said, just watch, I'm gonna take care

627
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: of you more tell me I didn't have to go

628
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: back for work, so I quick. He said, UM, that

629
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: got you, But don't believe them. We knew if we

630
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: wanted to help figure out what had happened to don Ye,

631
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: we would have to start digging. We needed to pour

632
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: over the details of the medical examiners and the police

633
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: department's investigations to know what they did and did not

634
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: take into account. We didn't know what we would find,

635
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: and the only thing we promised to do was to

636
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: give Melissa the benefit of the doubt, to not look

637
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: at her as though she were crazy or that she

638
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: was in denial, but to give real consideration to at

639
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: least the possibility that Dane didn't die by suicide from

640
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: what we could tell. That's what she never got from

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