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Speaker 1: the President announced he was going to order that TSA

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Speaker 1: about ending the partial shutdown. So why is it here

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roobes. We

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Speaker 1: were on recording yesterday and we were a little gleeful.

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Speaker 1: We were a little excited, like, Wow, great, They're gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so excited.

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Speaker 3: The Senate, unanimously, after all of those failed voting attempts,

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Speaker 3: passed a partial funding bill to get TSA workers paid.

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Speaker 2: Hallelujah.

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Speaker 3: The House had already passed three different versions of their

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Speaker 1: Wah wah. I cannot believe this. Good morning to you folks.

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Speaker 1: We are we are talking to you on this Saturday morning. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It's unthinkable And so yes, TSA workers on Friday miss

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Speaker 2: To work and how you pay your bills? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Most folks are one paycheck away from not being able

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Speaker 3: And Congress is going home.

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Speaker 1: Congress has left. They have left DC for a two

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Yes, the President made the major announcement yesterday

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Speaker 1: So they're the ones that have been fighting this whole

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to go home for recess. This is going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,

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Speaker 1: You to So they're supposed to be paid according to

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Speaker 2: Is it just one paycheck? Is it pay?

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Speaker 3: And then going forward they won't necessarily get paid after

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just one time.

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Speaker 3: And then now that the government isn't reopened, and you

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Speaker 2: But probably longer. Yes, how are we then?

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the invoice they gave Elon Musk.

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Speaker 1: So is that a good enough incentive to change these

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Speaker 3: The President needs to, I think, come out. He loves

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Speaker 2: With all of this uncertainty in Congress.

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Speaker 1: And we started checking this morning Robes and I did,

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Speaker 3: Necessarily, it's not terrible, and certainly it would not be

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Speaker 3: that Easter is next Sunday. Correct, So this is right

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Speaker 2: But these two weeks are the big travel weeks where folks.

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Speaker 3: Go international, They go and they travel, and this is

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Speaker 1: And again the times we're given role, this is very

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Speaker 1: looks today. They're hoping again the call out rates do improve,

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Speaker 1: but they've lost some five hundred officers during this shutdown

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Speaker 1: Those numbers that you have to train these folks for months.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a problem for a little while. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Now what is the big deal? Why can't the Senate

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Speaker 1: the same bill. So the Senate bill. The difference here, essentially, Ropes,

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Speaker 3: Eight week kicking the can yes, seze, can they stop

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Speaker 3: doing that? How are things going to be any better,

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Speaker 2: In eight weeks?

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Speaker 3: The same problems are still going to be there. There's

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Speaker 1: But it gets them home for two weeks for recess,

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Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. The Senate bill, however, just

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Speaker 1: The Senate still will not agree to fund all of

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Speaker 2: And they already have money.

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Speaker 3: ICE agents are being paid through twenty twenty seven, so

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Speaker 2: It is not actually tangible.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't actually change anything financially, so that's really frustrating.

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Speaker 1: But symbolically they're still remembering what happened on the streets

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Speaker 3: Tell that to the people who can't pay their bills,

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Speaker 1: What's happening to you not paying your bills is for

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, because no one trusts lawmakers, no one trust

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Speaker 2: What they're doing. Because we all know, truly this fine

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Speaker 1: That's not so cool.

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Speaker 2: That's just the truth.

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Speaker 1: You're realist.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, they're not doing it for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, folks, all this talking, everything, all this was over ice.

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Speaker 1: ICE has now gone into the airports and frankly not

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Speaker 3: You started to get worried, because not that anyone was

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Speaker 2: Agents, could be maybe a powder can situation.

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Speaker 3: However, it was very calm and the Ice agents we

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Speaker 1: And their extra body and maybe they actually are helping.

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Speaker 1: But for us, we were we got off the plane yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Robes I think I pointed it out first. We were

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder if look, Americans are always much

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Speaker 3: Most of them are good folks, right, That's just the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a simple high or smile or past

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Speaker 1: And if you close your eyes, I say, picture a

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Speaker 1: If you I'm doing air quotes, like everybody can see that,

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad you pointed that out because it is

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Speaker 3: But when you actually get out and you actually get

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's a whole lot different than what's being depicted

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Speaker 2: Or what you're reading on the computer.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's an important part to remember, like

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Speaker 1: So, folks, this will continue through we just we wake up.

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Speaker 1: We thought we had so many options and answers rope

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Speaker 1: between the President and the Senate that like, wow, could

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Speaker 1: just go wrong. It went wrong, So we'll keep an

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