Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up What's Up?
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, Night
Speaker 1: two of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, as always,
Speaker 1: joined by the Voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith.
Speaker 1: Instant reaction to rounds two and three and money. We
Speaker 1: talked about both of these positions last night as ones
Speaker 1: to watch coming into Friday night. And we'll just start
Speaker 1: with the third wide receiver off the board today, Trey
Speaker 1: Harris from Old Miss, a guy who's played a lot
Speaker 1: of football, very productive last year despite missing five games.
Speaker 2: Huge, just huge. I you know, we were talking about
Speaker 2: who might be available, and I had no inclination to
Speaker 2: think that he would be there at fifty five. It's
Speaker 2: just it's two those guys go early, you know, like
Speaker 2: for all of the Tmax stuff, the teter Ro McMillan
Speaker 2: stuff that always can slide and he's too casual. Like, no,
Speaker 2: just guys that are that big and play that role
Speaker 2: a legitimate X receiver, they just go high. And I
Speaker 2: think with the injury to Trey Harris, with the combine
Speaker 2: that you know, he's coming off the groin and he's running,
Speaker 2: you know, a little over a four to five, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna slide in the second, but someone's gonna be
Speaker 2: He's gonna be one of the first five picks on
Speaker 2: day two. That's just kind of how I assumed that
Speaker 2: was gonna go. That's why when we're talking about wide
Speaker 2: receivers yesterday, I was kind of talking about you know,
Speaker 2: Jack Besh and the guy you know who got picked
Speaker 2: right after him. I was like, yeah, that's sort of
Speaker 2: what we're looking at right there. So you know, to
Speaker 2: hear Joe Ortiz tell the story about how he just
Speaker 2: had this gut feeling and he talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: when they took Tory Smith in Baltimore and he told
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh that he had this feeling. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 2: like that's I'm glad his gut was right because I
Speaker 2: would have never in a million years believed that he
Speaker 2: would be there. He is for people who don't watch
Speaker 2: a lot of college football. He's an ex. He is
Speaker 2: a legitimate Put him out on the island. Let a
Speaker 2: corner try to deal with him. He's physical, he's fast,
Speaker 2: he's tall, he glides because he's got long strides. He
Speaker 2: catches everything. It's a freaking huge git at fifty five.
Speaker 1: It is and that's why we say be patient throughout
Speaker 1: this whole process, right. You know, we talked about DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf and Higgins T Higgins who just was not gonna
Speaker 1: be available. You know, you see her. It's like you're
Speaker 1: banging your head against the wall trying to find that
Speaker 1: perfect fit and knowing that you have Lad already on
Speaker 1: the other side, knowing that you brought it in Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: knowing that you have Tyler Conklin to go with Will Disley.
Speaker 1: You remade the backfield now with Najee Harris and Marion Hanton.
Speaker 1: We talked about all the strengths and attributes that that
Speaker 1: Hampton has. It's gonna help Herbert in this offense. Now
Speaker 1: you bring in a guy who was uber productive over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years at Old Miss and head
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards receiving in eight games last year. Money.
Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers are off the charts. He's a playmaker.
Speaker 1: He fits that exposition I was reading in Dane's Beast,
Speaker 1: that is I think his favorite routes to slant route.
Speaker 1: Cool nugget that he and Malik Neighbors played together. He
Speaker 1: was the quarterback on that team. How about that? So
Speaker 1: it just shows what an athlete he is, and I
Speaker 1: think he's just gonna fit really nicely into this offense.
Speaker 1: You lose Joshua Palmer, and you know, we saw Quentin
Speaker 1: kind of take a step next year. But to have
Speaker 1: this young nucleus, specifically with lad and Harris, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing for Justin Herbert, a good thing for the
Speaker 1: Powder Blues.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. And I'm trying to get my camera
Speaker 2: all sorted out because I got a million computers and
Speaker 2: a million different things, So I'm trying to get over
Speaker 2: here so I can see this. This was my favorite
Speaker 2: thing about Trey. I think this kind of illustrates what
Speaker 2: we're talking about. So his last you know, because he
Speaker 2: had the groin, he missed weeks eight through twelve, so
Speaker 2: he comes back in week thirteen. He's clearly not right.
Speaker 2: But so Kentucky all SEC games, Kentucky, South Carolina, La Florida, Right,
Speaker 2: they're they're putting guys in the league. They're putting defensive
Speaker 2: backs in the league. You know, you think about Hairston,
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Melanie Lsu, like these are top shelf
Speaker 2: NFL players. And my favorite thing of all of the
Speaker 2: stats in those four games. His long reception forty eight,
Speaker 2: fifty seven, forty seven, forty three, So a dude that
Speaker 2: takes the top off though. That was his long So
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about. A true X go and
Speaker 2: go get it, and he gets it. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of what we're talking Like when you go through you know,
Speaker 2: when he was at LA Tech for those three years,
Speaker 2: and he's an older guy because of COVID and and
Speaker 2: all that, you know, so he gets that extra year
Speaker 2: of production. But when you go through his his year
Speaker 2: by year, right, sixty two, sixty four, fifty six, and seventy,
Speaker 2: there's his long receptions from each of us year. So
Speaker 2: like that's what we're talking about, Like, you know, complimentary football,
Speaker 2: not just you know, in all three phases, but from
Speaker 2: position groups. Can you compliment each other when you're building
Speaker 2: out a wide receiver room. This is going to help
Speaker 2: lad Man. This guy is just put him and you
Speaker 2: know what, talk about a guy to learn from. To
Speaker 2: have Mike Williams, you know with the Chargers, and someone
Speaker 2: that you do not want to overwork because of the history,
Speaker 2: right Chris, to have you know, Trey Harris rolling at
Speaker 2: six three two hundred and ten pounds. Those measurements sound familiar,
Speaker 2: you know, to work under. You know, Mike dubb Is
Speaker 2: is awesome, you know, And again it's a guy that's
Speaker 2: coming off a pretty gnarly growing injury. I think it's
Speaker 2: a sports hernia or growing something like that. So you
Speaker 2: don't have to freak out and you know, and press
Speaker 2: him to play too much. And I think he's a
Speaker 2: hell of a player. Man, I think he is a
Speaker 2: hell of a player.
Speaker 1: And he's not a developmental player either too. Buddy. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the time in college he played fifty one game.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy who's ready. He's ready to
Speaker 1: go this year. You don't have to wait on him
Speaker 1: in terms of pick up the playbook and trying to
Speaker 1: kind of reach your full potential on an efort to
Speaker 1: to get some snaps. One of the things I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you brought up to Mike Williams things because I
Speaker 1: saw under his weaknesses low career contested catch rate relative
Speaker 1: to his size. Maybe Mike could teach him a figure
Speaker 1: two about going up and get in one. You know.
Speaker 1: So I love I love the fit. Uh you mentioned that, Chris,
Speaker 1: I want to jump in there.
Speaker 2: Just real quick and then just pick it right up.
Speaker 2: Just It says that about the contested catch rate, and
Speaker 2: I get it, and I'm sure there's but man, you
Speaker 2: look at some highlights like the one that that Lance
Speaker 2: was playing. I don't know if you saw Lance's breakdown
Speaker 2: our friend Lancer line. He's climbing a freaking tree over
Speaker 2: an LSU defensive back and just wraps his hands around
Speaker 2: the guy's head who's in front of him in the
Speaker 2: end zone to secure the catch and then pull it
Speaker 2: back over his helmet secure it. It's like, I'm all
Speaker 2: right with the contested catches.
Speaker 1: Sorry, no exactly. And you know again you mentioned all
Speaker 1: these these teams. This is SEC football too. I mean,
Speaker 1: so you're going to get best. It's best on best.
Speaker 1: You know, Jackson Dart was throwing him the football. What
Speaker 1: a situation he gets to go too, though, With Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert lad already kind of established here might coming back.
Speaker 1: This running game a lot of one oh one opportunities
Speaker 1: for Justin to find him and make plays early as
Speaker 1: a rookie money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look what did coach Arbass say and
Speaker 2: the presser we got stuff with you don't want to
Speaker 2: help out Justin wanted to help him out? And how look, Chris,
Speaker 2: we do this every week, right, And I enjoy engaging
Speaker 2: with people in the YouTube comments. And I think sort
Speaker 2: of one of the bigger themes is can we help
Speaker 2: Justin out? Can we get us some help? Man? Can
Speaker 2: we can? We? Like you got Justin Herbert? What are
Speaker 2: we doing? Why are we drafting Joe Wall? Let's get
Speaker 2: Justin some weapons? You know, why are we not signing
Speaker 2: T Higgins or trading for T Higgins? And why don't
Speaker 2: we get Devonte Adams? And why didn't we get Evan
Speaker 2: Ingram And let's help Well, here you go, Justin. Here's
Speaker 2: a Mari and Hampton in the backfield that teams are
Speaker 2: now going to have to account for. And there aren't
Speaker 2: gonna be any more light boxes with that dude back there.
Speaker 2: And then you know so, and then here's a take
Speaker 2: the top off a defense legitimate ex receiver. So hopefully
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying like you know that they're
Speaker 2: they're listening to the commenters or the fans that are
Speaker 2: bemoaning the fact. But it's it's not a quick fix, man,
Speaker 2: It's not a go throw a bunch of money at
Speaker 2: a guy and draft this guy high, even though he's
Speaker 2: not the highest player on your board, but because he
Speaker 2: fills that need you want to take take care of
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. No, it's just it's these guys are here
Speaker 2: for the long haul man. Justin Herbert's just he hasn't
Speaker 2: even he's already Like, think about how early he is
Speaker 2: in his career. There's so much time, and it's it's
Speaker 2: this is all being now. You've got Trey Harrison, Lad
Speaker 2: McConkey and Marion Amarion Hampton. These guys are in their
Speaker 2: first and second years. It's like, and you've got Justin Herbert,
Speaker 2: who's not even twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, come on, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: the they need to help Justin Herbert out needs to
Speaker 1: kind of go away now this offseason. You bring in
Speaker 1: a guy that he's very familiar with and Mike Williams
Speaker 1: had great chemistry with. Yeah, you bring in Mackay Beckton.
Speaker 1: You brought in Joe Alt last year to protect Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: You got Rashaun Slater who's due for a big deal.
Speaker 1: On the other side, that running game is going to
Speaker 1: make Justin Herbert even better. This year. You have durability
Speaker 1: with Hampton, durability with Harris being able to chew clock
Speaker 1: when you need to. Lad McConkey, you know, who knows
Speaker 1: what else may be in store Tyler Conklin to go
Speaker 1: with Will Disley. So I think that they've done a
Speaker 1: lot to help Justin, to to lift this office, to
Speaker 1: make it more dynamic, to score more points. Frankly, and
Speaker 1: again I think that that that narrative of Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: needs more. I think he got a lot this offseason
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll get even more tomorrow and the back
Speaker 1: half of free agency.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. You know, the one thing, you know,
Speaker 2: as they were I was texting with some friends is
Speaker 2: they were on the clock in the in the second
Speaker 2: and the third and I'm kind of looking at it,
Speaker 2: and clearly it was a one that they had blinders
Speaker 2: on for for Trey Harris, you know, just based on
Speaker 2: the discussion and the fact that they wanted to trade
Speaker 2: up to ensure that they got him, and John Spano's like, eh,
Speaker 2: And I think as he talked about you know, John said, look,
Speaker 2: there's there's players here. I don't think he's gonna go
Speaker 2: based on who's in front of us, and the fact
Speaker 2: that Green Bay had just taken Matthew Golden, Tampa had
Speaker 2: just taken a Mecca Egbuka, So you know, they're like,
Speaker 2: I think we're good and that's just but I look
Speaker 2: at what was behind him and it's like, yeah, these
Speaker 2: are three four guys that I was texting with my
Speaker 2: my friend. I was like, oh, gosh, Besh is there.
Speaker 2: Man's Besh is there? And then I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: are they gonna could they take Trey Amos Fitzmintor's scheme perfectly?
Speaker 2: Here's your corner, Like there were so many and that's
Speaker 2: why I think that's how you play the board, right.
Speaker 2: It's like they'd be They would have been fine with
Speaker 2: Tate Ratlice can play guard center out of Georgia. They
Speaker 2: would have been fine with Besh Cooper cup type guy catches.
Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite players in the draft, as
Speaker 2: physical as any wide receiver out there. Just chucks guys
Speaker 2: like they're freaking up sack of potatoes. You got Trey
Speaker 2: Amos there, and then one of my favorite t tackles,
Speaker 2: Omar Norman Lotts. So it's like it's such a good
Speaker 2: feeling for just a lunkhead like me who barely knows
Speaker 2: what the heck he's looking at. I can only imagine
Speaker 2: what it's like in that room when they're like, guys,
Speaker 2: we're good, man, chill, we're freaking good. We're gonna get
Speaker 2: a really good player here at fifty five. And and
Speaker 2: so that was. That was, And it's funny, Chris because
Speaker 2: like in the third round, it was a little bit different.
Speaker 2: In the third round, it's like no, no, no, like
Speaker 2: you know, Fann and goes off at sixty seven. Darien Porter,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite guys. The Raiders got, like my favorite,
Speaker 2: they got Jack Bash, they got Darian Porter, they got
Speaker 2: a bunch of dudes that I like, freaking Raiders man.
Speaker 2: And then I love Tesla, but we'd already had the receiver.
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams went high in the third and then prior
Speaker 2: to one of my favorite corners, Noel Williams, DJ turned
Speaker 2: me on to him. Freaking Chiefs jump up in front
Speaker 2: of the Chargers to get Noel Williams. And I assume
Speaker 2: they did that specifically. They were like, oh yeah, this,
Speaker 2: he could go right here, So they did that intentionally,
Speaker 2: and then they end up getting the beef man. They
Speaker 2: ended up getting Jamari Caldwell right there at eighty six.
Speaker 2: And it's like, if I were to tell Charger fans,
Speaker 2: you're going to get on some boards, one on most boards,
Speaker 2: second best running back in the draft. You're going to
Speaker 2: get a true X receiver, top five six receiver in
Speaker 2: the draft, and you're going to get a legitimate replacement
Speaker 2: for Poona in days on Days one and two. How
Speaker 2: you feeling.
Speaker 1: Exactly the Caldwell pick. You knew at some point talking
Speaker 1: about the depth of the defensive tackle class that you
Speaker 1: were going to get a really good player in round three,
Speaker 1: and they identified tomorrow Caldwell, Who's just a beast of
Speaker 1: a guy, three hundred and sixty pounds. I tweeted, get
Speaker 1: this guy with Ben Herbert this offseason, and you know
Speaker 1: you maybe you may have something special here across the line. Uh,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on on Caldwell, how he fits in Jesse
Speaker 1: Mitzer's scheme, and how I guess you would say he's
Speaker 1: probably Poona Ford's replacement.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, to me, it's it's let me just
Speaker 2: look at him right, six two three point thirty, incredibly
Speaker 2: quick feet, athletic, It's Kenneth Grant. It's just it's Kenneth Grant, Like,
Speaker 2: that's that's the comp right. That's sort of like when
Speaker 2: when you think about that, so many teams mocking Kenneth
Speaker 2: Grant to the Chargers because of poona six', four three thirty,
Speaker 2: one incredibly nimble at, times played all the way out five,
Speaker 2: technique would play, wide could play, zero could play, Three
Speaker 2: and that's That's, calledwell it's the same, thing you. Know
Speaker 2: and AND i think the one thing that that stood
Speaker 2: out about his his organ you know versus his huge
Speaker 2: tape is who he's playing next. To you, know when
Speaker 2: you're playing next To Derek, harmon the number one pressure
Speaker 2: rate defensive tackle in college. Football last, year he was
Speaker 2: asked to eat up, tackles you, know just eat him. Up,
Speaker 2: Man freezie's got get double team Because harmon's gonna Eat
Speaker 2: and that's AND i think it says a lot when
Speaker 2: you go through Cald, wells when you go through his,
Speaker 2: grades you see that he was a pass, rusher an
Speaker 2: interior pass rusher At, houston and those guys what they
Speaker 2: tend to get drafted higher because you want upfield sack
Speaker 2: production that that's. In, instead he puts on the extra.
Speaker 2: Weight he said he wanted to compete in The Big.
Speaker 2: Ten it's a guy that had to take A juco
Speaker 2: route that was had zero, star had no, offers had
Speaker 2: went to two different jc's before he got the offer
Speaker 2: From houston From Dana, holderson ends up jumping up in,
Speaker 2: class wants to go play in The big. Ten oregon,
Speaker 2: offers but they, say, hey, man zero sacks this, year
Speaker 2: why you're gonna put on weight and you're gonna eat it?
Speaker 2: Up And harmon's gonna Eat and where Does harmon go twenty?
Speaker 2: One and where does this guy? Go eighty? Six not a?
Speaker 2: Pete you, know the zoom call we had with him
Speaker 2: after just was, Awesome what an awesome young, man and
Speaker 2: just kind of hearing the story about DURING covid families
Speaker 2: trying to make, money helping his mom run a kitchen
Speaker 2: and food delivery business out of their house so they
Speaker 2: can support the. Family and a guy that thought he
Speaker 2: had to quit football to help the family, out but
Speaker 2: then just missed it and loved it so much and
Speaker 2: goes TO jc route like these are the this is
Speaker 2: this is kind of where the portal comes, through you,
Speaker 2: know where it works out where here's a guy that
Speaker 2: has a chance to just jump From houston To, oregon
Speaker 2: an undefeated. Team all THESE nfl franchises are watching taate
Speaker 2: because you got all these, Players Terrence ferguson And Derek
Speaker 2: harmon and who pops but the guy that's eating up
Speaker 2: all the, tackles and they're, like, dang who's number? Ninety
Speaker 2: it's good after this, guy. Man and that's How caldwell
Speaker 2: ends up on The. Chargers and you, know coach said,
Speaker 2: it Or Joe rty said in the, presser this is
Speaker 2: one Of Mike elston's favorite. Guys and you know, what
Speaker 2: if there's one Of Mike elston's favorite, GUYS i think
Speaker 2: he's one of our favorite.
Speaker 1: Guys mike el. SAID i think when they were doing work,
Speaker 1: On harmon, said, wait who's the? Dude who's the dude
Speaker 1: next to? Him is? That is that a guy who
Speaker 1: could who could be A charger? POTENTIALLY i Saw Cliff
Speaker 1: kingsbury did the same thing With Adam. Peters he put
Speaker 1: a note on HIS u on his desk and, said
Speaker 1: draft The oregon tackle Connorly. An he went ahead and did.
Speaker 1: It but you, know, buddy these these front, OFFICES i
Speaker 1: just you have to just Trust. Joe joe has had
Speaker 1: such a track record of success With, baltimore and we
Speaker 1: have no, idea you, know two three years from, now
Speaker 1: we'll roll know who really popped in this draft and
Speaker 1: who's an impact player and who was a potential. Miss
Speaker 1: but if you just go off his track record Of,
Speaker 1: baltimore you see what they did last, year especially, early
Speaker 1: Getting alt And ladd and a pair of starting quarters
Speaker 1: in the fifth, round and Hopefully Junior colson pops here this,
Speaker 1: year who they drafted in the. Third you just have
Speaker 1: to trust trust this. Process how beneficial do you think
Speaker 1: having Coach harball and Coach spencer and all these guys
Speaker 1: From michigan in the building just a couple of years
Speaker 1: removed from seeing some of these guys in The Big ten.
Speaker 1: PERFORMED i, MEAN i just think that that's another kind
Speaker 1: of hidden advantage that The chargers have because these guys
Speaker 1: have been so close to the college. Game and we
Speaker 1: talked about it last, year but it still proves true
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: FIVE i have no. DOUBT i, Mean i'm sure a
Speaker 2: lot of them are guys that they're, recruiting you, know,
Speaker 2: so and they're guys they're keeping an eye on the
Speaker 2: transfer portal, era you, know they've they've got to watch.
Speaker 2: Everyone you're not just recruiting high schools, anymore but they're Watching,
Speaker 2: houston and they're watching what he's doing At. Houston LIKE i,
Speaker 2: SAID i want to make SURE i pulled up the
Speaker 2: stats out so guys At houston he has eight. Sacks
Speaker 2: he comes To oregon and they're, like, yeah, dude things
Speaker 2: are going to be. Changing but he ends up having
Speaker 2: a ton of, hurries a ton of. Pressures that's the.
Speaker 2: Balls that was one of the things About Kenneth GRANT
Speaker 2: i definitely, appreciated was you know how frustrating it is
Speaker 2: when a guy is clearly going to lose the pass
Speaker 2: rush baddle and doesn't get that arm. Up and that's
Speaker 2: one thing That Kenneth grant does better than almost anybody
Speaker 2: that you'll. Watch he is so good at timing, it
Speaker 2: at seeing. It he rushes with his head Up Aaron donald's,
Speaker 2: style and he'll get that hand. Up and it's something
Speaker 2: That caldwell does very well. Too it's not just put
Speaker 2: your head down and bull rush and try to get
Speaker 2: in there and have no idea what's going on around.
Speaker 2: You he's a very aware. Person so that's that's something
Speaker 2: that THAT i think is a huge benefit because it
Speaker 2: was something That poona was really good at as well last,
Speaker 2: year AND i thought was sort of maybe under reported
Speaker 2: just because of how good all around he was. Playing
Speaker 2: but that was something that it felt like we were
Speaker 2: talking about almost every single. Game he'd get that mid
Speaker 2: up and could time it and could redirect passes and
Speaker 2: And caldwell is is. Good, then LIKE i, think so
Speaker 2: why is he? Available, well these guys are so? Good
Speaker 2: why why is he? Availed because because he's six to,
Speaker 2: one you, know because he he his because the combine
Speaker 2: numbers didn't match what you see on, tape the athletic,
Speaker 2: numbers and the profile of the combine was not you,
Speaker 2: know he's five to, one six forty guy a one
Speaker 2: eight six' ten, you know a twenty seven inch. Vertical,
Speaker 2: jump well what does? That, matter well that usually tells
Speaker 2: you about explosion and whether or not they got good
Speaker 2: get off and and so you slip six two eight
Speaker 2: sorry to six three. Thirty two so that's kind of
Speaker 2: how that happens and how you end up With A.
Speaker 2: Jamari caldwell, But man i'm excited about, you know this
Speaker 2: guy's incredibly excited about him and how he fits in
Speaker 2: and how needs CAN meet bpa best, player available, you
Speaker 2: know and it felt like for these, THREE guys I
Speaker 2: think i think in the, Third look i'm not gonna,
Speaker 2: Say that i'm sure that there were some other players
Speaker 2: that could have had very similar grades as as called
Speaker 2: well at just some of the GUYS that i was
Speaker 2: thinking about that that were possible. RIGHT there i was
Speaker 2: thinking maybe Like A miles frasier Or an mbo or
Speaker 2: kind of one of those. Interior lignemen but, you know
Speaker 2: you got, A DETAIL like, i said man got a,
Speaker 2: d tackle a wide receiver and a running back in
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 1: Three rounds, you, know money it's almost an impossible task
Speaker 1: to do these. Mock yourrass every front office. Is different
Speaker 1: everybody has a different way of evaluating some of, these
Speaker 1: players whether, it's scheme whether it's, you know where, they're
Speaker 1: projected whether it's need, you know just, an example it's
Speaker 1: even at the. QUARTERBACK position i mean the leads, TO
Speaker 1: that i if YOU'RE an nfl fan from like a,
Speaker 1: general perspective as The Shad or sanders did, get Drafted
Speaker 1: But dylan, Gabriel Did jalen, Milroe Did tyler, Shuck did
Speaker 1: and it comes down to the coaches in, the building
Speaker 1: the scheme and what, they like what, they see and
Speaker 1: how they feel like that player can fit into their.
Speaker 1: Locker ROOM and i guess just seeing some of these
Speaker 1: guys come off, the board maybe earlier or later, than
Speaker 1: expected it just shows you that all thirty two front
Speaker 1: offices are so uniquely structured that you have no idea
Speaker 1: how this this puzzle is going to. Play out you
Speaker 1: see these analysts who are plugged in. As anybody they
Speaker 1: don't know what's.
Speaker 2: Going, on, yeah yeah, YOU know. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: i feel Bad for shador. KIND of i do think
Speaker 2: there's a bit of a, you know he made your
Speaker 2: bed and now you got to lay in. It there but,
Speaker 2: YOU know i think he's certainly better than a guy
Speaker 2: that should be drafted in the. Fourth ROUND and i
Speaker 2: think now it's just really gotten away from him because
Speaker 2: that's a tough guy to bring in us a backup,
Speaker 2: his dad and you've got your quarterback and he's not
Speaker 2: someone that. You're designated he expected to be a top,
Speaker 2: five pick and now he's coming in and, you're, like
Speaker 2: no you're the you're. The backup and that's, boyle boy
Speaker 2: that's that's a, tough one which makes IT really, i
Speaker 2: mean You Got joe clad up there on the desk
Speaker 2: FOR the nfl, network saying can he go back? To
Speaker 2: school is there a? You know after getting.
Speaker 1: On his warrio tweeted. THAT too i guess.
Speaker 2: He, can't no of. COURSE can't, i mean, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know and remember so many of these guys were
Speaker 2: lecturing the audience about what a great travesty, this was and, it's,
Speaker 2: like well the NFL's. Quarterback league they like, the quarterback
Speaker 2: they're going to take. The quarterback they're concerned about. The
Speaker 2: quarterback they're not going to take. The quarterback it's not
Speaker 2: AN anonymous nfl player OR anonymous nfl assistant coach that's
Speaker 2: going to share a story. That's unflattering it's going to change,
Speaker 2: their mind and everyone's all of a sudden going to. Take,
Speaker 2: them sorry my dog's scared the hell out. Of me
Speaker 2: just stuff their nose in my own didn't know she was.
Speaker 2: IN here i had the, door closed you KNOW what. I,
Speaker 2: mean like they're not gonna not. Draft them but that's
Speaker 2: neither here. NOR there i think to, Your, point chris
Speaker 2: that is a great point about how unique each of
Speaker 2: these front OFFICES are i think so much of, it is,
Speaker 2: you know trying to predict how they're thinking and what
Speaker 2: kind of runs they're going to. Run into so this
Speaker 2: goes back to. Last, year right we did this exact exercise.
Speaker 2: Last year You take Malik na bruce at five and
Speaker 2: what tackle are you taking at? Thirty seven, You, know
Speaker 2: suematia you. Know whatever who we're never gonna hear? From
Speaker 2: again Who the chiefs took in the, second? Round right
Speaker 2: Instead it's. Alton, mcconki okay You? Take golden what running back?
Speaker 1: YOU?
Speaker 2: Getting? RJ harvey I like harvey. A lot he's Not
Speaker 2: a Mari. And hampton and, to me if you're talking
Speaker 2: about it just a straight UP, outside x which is
Speaker 2: what everyone was trying to sell Us That matthew golden
Speaker 2: is that he can PLAY. The x don't worry about.
Speaker 2: The size this is a guy that can play OUTSIDE
Speaker 2: and i hope and maybe he can and maybe he'll.
Speaker 2: Thrive there but, to me if you're just talking about
Speaker 2: a STRAIGHT up, x RECEIVER and I got Hampton And
Speaker 2: trey Harris. Versus golden and the very next back that
Speaker 2: was taken was at sixty By.
Speaker 1: THE.
Speaker 2: Broncos, RJ harvey i think is a really. Good, back
Speaker 2: dude Give me Amari and Hampton And trey harris all,
Speaker 2: freaking day like all, day long.
Speaker 1: And it's and it's not. Even close i'm so glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up Because h harris was the third
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the, board, Today right so the only
Speaker 1: other receiver taken after the charges Selected was? Golden correct
Speaker 1: was there another? RECEIVER taken i don't think there's another
Speaker 1: receiver taken In the in.
Speaker 2: The First, ryeah Jade. No jade in, the second there
Speaker 2: there was a bit of a run because You Had
Speaker 2: jayden higgins go To the.
Speaker 1: Higgins burden and then and And. Then harris, so yeah
Speaker 1: so you you had three wide receivers go In between
Speaker 1: hampton and where You, Get harris like that's that's exactly to,
Speaker 1: Your point like you get a guy who's very close
Speaker 1: to those guys at the top of the second versus
Speaker 1: losing Out. On hampton, and again we touted this running,
Speaker 1: back class But but Hampton and jenty have always been
Speaker 1: in a different class from these. Other guys like maybe
Speaker 1: you could make the Case of Judkins, or henderson, but
Speaker 1: uh to Lose that i'd be bummed if they went
Speaker 1: with a, wide receiver if they Went with golden and
Speaker 1: you lose out on, an explosive, three down big powerful
Speaker 1: Back like hanton because you were going To Get trevion.
Speaker 1: Henderson there you weren't going To get. Judkins There so i'm.
Speaker 1: With you it's the exact same exercise from last year
Speaker 1: where you get Mccaukey and olt versus you know Whoever
Speaker 1: NEIGHBORS and i don't even know who the tackle would
Speaker 1: have been at thirty fourth.
Speaker 2: Last, year YEAH like, I said i think it Was,
Speaker 2: like suamatia, You. Know, KINGSLEY yeah i think that's who.
Speaker 2: It Was and morgan went very. But, whatever yeah that's.
Speaker 2: The POINT. Like, RJ harvey i, love him one of
Speaker 2: my absolute favorite players in. The draft he's, five eight two,
Speaker 2: hundred pounds so there's gonna be some pass pro. Concerns there,
Speaker 2: you know there's gonna be some concern about size and
Speaker 2: durability and how many carries can you really. Give him
Speaker 2: he's not six foot two hundred and twenty. Five pounds
Speaker 2: that's there's just a huge difference there between the back that.
Speaker 2: Was taken And again i'm not by no means is
Speaker 2: this to Be a this is not a slide on the.
Speaker 2: Other players that's Not what i'm intending to. Do HERE like,
Speaker 2: I said harvey's one of my favorite GUYS that, i
Speaker 2: watched and he's anybody that watched running back tape would
Speaker 2: would tell you the same thing because he's a elect
Speaker 2: jerker and he's really fun. To watch but He's not
Speaker 2: he's not A potential nfl rushing, Yards leader and that
Speaker 2: Is what Amri and. Hampton is he could LEAD the
Speaker 2: nfl in rushing and no one would. Be surprised that's
Speaker 2: so you combine that with again you look at all
Speaker 2: the advanced stats and just kind of the plot that,
Speaker 2: the charts you KNOW at pff and separation stats and
Speaker 2: yards per, route run and like they're off. The charts
Speaker 2: it's a smaller sample size because he got hurt and
Speaker 2: the games that he was hurt for, where SO like
Speaker 2: i would just HERE'S what i would say for the
Speaker 2: people that are really puffing their chest out and throwing
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff out There About, trey harris just
Speaker 2: be a little bit careful. With that because he played
Speaker 2: the first four or five games of, the season which
Speaker 2: is all those sec cupcakes when they're just freaking routing
Speaker 2: Teams like Furman, and mercer and then he ends up.
Speaker 2: Getting hurt after a couple it plays LIKE three sec
Speaker 2: games and then he misses the meat OF the. Sec
Speaker 2: SCHEDULE so i do think you need to take some
Speaker 2: of that. Into consideration when, you're like look at the,
Speaker 2: you know yards per, route run look at the separate, it's,
Speaker 2: like yeah let's not forget what the sample. Size is
Speaker 2: it's like eight games and four of them are the
Speaker 2: first four games of the season IN the sec and
Speaker 2: for A league keifvin team.
Speaker 1: No, less Yeah those division two teams are showing Up
Speaker 1: in week FIVE At. Sofi, stadium yeah let's spin it forward.
Speaker 1: To tomorrow money one twenty, five overall the twenty third
Speaker 1: pick in the, FOURTH round, i believe is Where the
Speaker 1: chargers will start. Their afternoon this is always kind of
Speaker 1: a craft shoot from four to seven in terms of
Speaker 1: best player available based on who they've selected and other
Speaker 1: needs on. This team what are you? Looking at what
Speaker 1: the potential? Position, GROUPS well i.
Speaker 2: Think corner you know they got two in the fifth.
Speaker 2: LAST year i. Think corner just because of the, special teams,
Speaker 2: you know they're gonna need to get some of these
Speaker 2: guys for For, coach ficken, you know his his special
Speaker 2: teams got absolutely rated in, The offseason so you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to replace some of these special, teams stalwarts, you
Speaker 2: Know Like nick neeman who ended up getting. Signed away
Speaker 2: so THAT'S that's I Like kobe bryant From. From kansas
Speaker 2: who else is? Out there i'm? Seeing safeties what do?
Speaker 2: WE get i Like the Cal Safety. CRAIG woodson i
Speaker 2: think that's a. POSSIBILITY there i Go. TO edge I
Speaker 2: think edge is definitely something a lot like Our Friend
Speaker 2: brett Coleman Loves. BRAYDON swinson i DIDN'T quite i mean
Speaker 2: he's he's a much more skilled watcher of TAPE than.
Speaker 2: I am i didn't quite see IT as, i mean
Speaker 2: he thought he was gonna get drafted and like that
Speaker 2: he should be drafted in the team's kind. OF stuff
Speaker 2: i just kind of saw a guy that dropped his
Speaker 2: head in bull. Rushed PEOPLE but I, Think Edge kyle
Speaker 2: canard Out Of. South carolina there's there's a lot There
Speaker 2: at there's there's a player.
Speaker 1: At Edge jack sawyer is still, there, Too Right.
Speaker 2: Jack sawyer is. STILL there i think you're talking about
Speaker 2: Defensive Tackle. Joshua farmer you know HOW much I Love,
Speaker 2: ty robinson MY. Guy, jj piggeez may he be there in.
Speaker 2: THE fourth i don't know if they would take him
Speaker 2: after already Taken, cald well Just because pigge's is six three,
Speaker 2: three hundred, but again he's kind of, that athletic. Disruptive
Speaker 2: interior i'd have to look at what.
Speaker 1: His they should make if they, select him they should
Speaker 1: have you.
Speaker 2: Call him i'm, telling, YOU, Man.
Speaker 1: Jj we've been talking about You A charger's weekly for. A, Month.
Speaker 2: Pal you're, My, guy dude you are. MY guy i
Speaker 2: want To. SEE turnett i Can't find these are just
Speaker 2: a weekly grades to see where he, lined up JUST
Speaker 2: so i could kind of. See where.
Speaker 1: YEAH that i Just think winston's. Still there swinton's the.
Speaker 1: Best available edge looks.
Speaker 2: Like so the big ones, For, me like if you're
Speaker 2: Telling what i'd like, to see you KNOW how i
Speaker 2: Feel About, jake majors the Center from Texas. BIG fan
Speaker 2: i think you could probably get him in. The Fifth
Speaker 2: drew kendall, is someone uh that would make sense Out Of.
Speaker 2: Boston college just the style of offense that, they play
Speaker 2: the fact that His dad's drew you know that his
Speaker 2: dad played IN the nfl for. Thirteen years so you
Speaker 2: got that. Offensive guard someone we talked. About Yesterday miles
Speaker 2: fraser is. Still There jackson slater From sack state one
Speaker 2: of those small school guys. STILL there i love. THE
Speaker 2: story i, don't know, you know if he would be
Speaker 2: there with the second to last pick in, the draft
Speaker 2: But The thomas perry story Out, of middlebury you know
Speaker 2: that'd be a. Fun one by. All Accounts Our Man
Speaker 2: duke manyweather says he's as good of a guy that
Speaker 2: he has, ever coached and just, you know decided to
Speaker 2: Stay at middlebury AND play d three uh and dominate
Speaker 2: the competition there the. Whole time so those are are
Speaker 2: three three GUYS that i would kind of keep an.
Speaker 2: Eye on and then let's see tight end My guy
Speaker 2: fannin going To.
Speaker 1: The browns that's another guy.
Speaker 2: SCOOPED it i knew he wasn't gonna last till. THE
Speaker 2: bat i knew that he was going to have to
Speaker 2: be a pick at fifty five if they were going
Speaker 2: to get him LAST until I, LIKE gunner I Like.
Speaker 2: Mitchell evan's so those are THE two i think those
Speaker 2: are those are the TWO that i would keep an.
Speaker 2: EYE on i think you'll probably have to go fourth
Speaker 2: round for either. Of them uh. WIDE receiver i mean
Speaker 2: there's still Some Like, Tory Horton, Jalen Royals Isaiah bon
Speaker 2: if you just want, Pure Speed. Tess johnson if you
Speaker 2: want someone who's, really small there are very few people
Speaker 2: that come into The league chris that way LESS than.
Speaker 2: I Do tess johnson is one. Of them its one
Speaker 2: hundred fifty four. POUNDS today i stepped on the scale
Speaker 2: at a wopping one hundred and fifty five point. Eight pounds, SO.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could i could see a run on on
Speaker 1: these running backs early With With Kip scattabo samson, Still There,
Speaker 1: jordan James uh touton. Et, n yeah, SO again i
Speaker 1: think that may, Play it that may play in. Charge's
Speaker 1: advantage YEAH with i mean you.
Speaker 2: Got talent you, Said it You've got LIKE if i,
Speaker 2: GO through i am looking at twelve twelve Running, Backs Scataboo,
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson, DEVIN Neil, Dj Giddons, Jordan James, Damien, Martinez,
Speaker 2: Beshall tutin trevor at T End. Brishard smith if you
Speaker 2: want a, receiving back whatod he marks the same deal
Speaker 2: out Of, The, Sea, Jarcos Hunter lequin allen like those
Speaker 2: those those could all go in the fourth ROUND and i, wouldn't, blink,
Speaker 2: like yeah maybe Not With quinn allen and what, he
Speaker 2: marks those guys might be more fifth up, at anyway
Speaker 2: you get the point.
Speaker 1: Blue, Marks yeah i'd like to see what he marks.
Speaker 1: Get drafted uh in the fourth best player on.
Speaker 2: The, team yeah he was great.
Speaker 1: Last year, Anything, ELSE no i think.
Speaker 2: That's good i'm excited to see how it plays. Out
Speaker 2: tomorrow they got a bunch of picks in the, sixth
Speaker 2: round so it's gonna be a lot. OF players i
Speaker 2: have very little idea of what's, going on just because
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to get. That deep i'm pretty good
Speaker 2: through like. Four rounds when you get, Into five i'm
Speaker 2: Starting to i'm. Not starting i'm, pretty thin and it
Speaker 2: gets a, little tough and then hopefully you just kind
Speaker 2: of get a guy that you you watched and and
Speaker 2: you have an idea or you follow, the story like,
Speaker 2: you know it's FUNNY that i said, this, Yesterday right
Speaker 2: it's wild how it all. Comes, Around man like REMEMBER.
Speaker 2: When cj west was rocketing up into the second round
Speaker 2: THE the iu, defensive, tackle, like oh you had a
Speaker 2: great you know, this this, you know and, IT'S like
Speaker 2: I don't i, don't, KNOW man i don't know if
Speaker 2: anyone's going to take him in the. Second round there's,
Speaker 2: YOU know i. Get it, it's exciting you had a great,
Speaker 2: you know it's tested great and all. Of that but there,
Speaker 2: he is, You know and that's like he was available
Speaker 2: To the chargers in the third round and he's, you
Speaker 2: know that's six, to one three hundred and, twenty stout,
Speaker 2: you know athletic interior Tackle, and caldwell somebody that nobody
Speaker 2: was talking about through the. Whole process, they're, like no that's.
Speaker 2: Our guy and it goes to. Your point every, team's.
Speaker 2: Different man every team's got their preferences and what they
Speaker 2: like at. Certain positions and.
Speaker 1: You got scouts banging the table for guys that, you
Speaker 1: know they've they've probably fell in love with maybe two
Speaker 1: years ago or a, year ago, and, say hey it's the,
Speaker 1: sixth round get. My guy it's gonna, work out. You
Speaker 1: know so that's where there's probably a lot of politics
Speaker 1: and within the building and, you, KNOW tomorrow i just
Speaker 1: you think of how these guys are going to impact the, upcoming.
Speaker 1: Season right, you know we talked about the fifth round The,
Speaker 1: tar heap still that that that huge Game. In atlanta
Speaker 1: You Know cam hart uh some punishing hits throughout, the
Speaker 1: Season Kimani vi dell. WITH that i still remember that
Speaker 1: his first first Touchdown. GRABBING denver, i mean these are
Speaker 1: guys who were all Drafted on day three that contributed
Speaker 1: To the. Charger season so, YOU know i have no
Speaker 1: doubt they'll probably pluck a guy in the fifth of
Speaker 1: the sixth who we may be talking about in week
Speaker 1: seven that that they made a player his number was
Speaker 1: called because somebody was hurt and and here we.
Speaker 2: Go, AGAIN yeah i mean, not surprising JUST because i
Speaker 2: want To let greg and everybody get home because, it's
Speaker 2: late and we're going to get this thing posted like
Speaker 2: we did, last night so you can all consume it
Speaker 2: before the start because it starts. Early tomorrow so let's
Speaker 2: get this thing posted in rolling for people to uh
Speaker 2: to suck back on A wild. Friday, night man people
Speaker 2: are gonna get crazy listening And watching chargers weekly here
Speaker 2: and that's how they spend Their their. Friday night fired, Up,
Speaker 2: baby yeah. No surprise i'm very very excited about the first.
Speaker 2: Three picks. Very, excited yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's a good day to Be a. Chargers fan
Speaker 1: to get another Weapon for justin and another big defensive
Speaker 1: Tackle Across jesse. Menzer's, defense monny we will do this.
Speaker 1: Again tomorrow wrap this. Thing up always appreciate, you, guys,
Speaker 1: watching listening And consuming. Chargers weekly we'll. See tomorrow