WEBVTT - “2011 NBA Finals: Game 6” with Mark Cuban | Mavericks vs. Heat

0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Today we have a very special guest. We all know

0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:09.640
<v Speaker 1>him in Shark Tank. So that legendary entrepreneur Mark.

0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Cuban, Mark Cuban, Mark Cuban, tell I'm like to get

0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:14.560
<v Speaker 2>your crodic out.

0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.639
<v Speaker 1>He was the bad boy of the owners back in

0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the day, and now you've become the model citizen of

0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the owner.

0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.840
<v Speaker 3>No, hell no, no, they just don't find me over

0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:23.320
<v Speaker 3>it anymore.

0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>House for three It now tell us about this twenty eleven.

0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Finals Game six in Miami.

0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.000
<v Speaker 1>In Miami, the Heatles.

0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Everybody hated them. You know, from an owner's perspective, I'm

0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.519
<v Speaker 3>just terrified the whole day. Your emotions are just all over.

0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>The map, and you're not in control, no control whatsoever.

0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.159
<v Speaker 3>My thing was, Okay, if I take a sip of

0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.479
<v Speaker 3>the diet coke at the right moment, we'll score. And

0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.000
<v Speaker 3>if I take my diet coke and put it down

0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the exact right spot, we'll get a stop.

0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:54.560
<v Speaker 1>There is no life.

0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.680
<v Speaker 4>I would just give the guy a hundred bucks to say,

0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:57.600
<v Speaker 4>just keep him.

0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You've heard millions of pitches you were in on the

0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Lebron sweepsteak. What was your pitch games with names is

0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeart Radio Welcome to Games with Names,

0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.120
<v Speaker 1>presented by win Bet. On today's episode, we're talking Game

0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:24.640
<v Speaker 1>six of the twenty eleven NBA Finals with Maverick's owner

0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark Cuban. We promised not to pitch him anything. I

0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think we did, did we, Jack?

0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I think we might be the only people in America

0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:33.559
<v Speaker 2>to talk.

0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.640
<v Speaker 1>With if I had pitch. But we got into his pitch.

0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh we had pitches in the holster though. Yeah, we

0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:39.840
<v Speaker 2>had them eaters.

0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.640
<v Speaker 1>We were ready to just like a gun slinger.

0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.200
<v Speaker 2>We'll save those for the tank.

0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.600
<v Speaker 1>We dive into him as an NFL owner or NBA owner,

0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and his NFL.

0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Thought is try his attempts.

0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the pig gets fat. What does he say?

0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Was that? Yes? I believe he did. They also get

0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>into who's the greater euro Luca Dirk, Joe Kooker. We

0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.200
<v Speaker 1>we talk about me potentially buying a pro basketball team.

0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to join, you know, I want to I

0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.600
<v Speaker 1>want to join him.

0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.920
<v Speaker 2>He had some some wise words of advice.

0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:25.120
<v Speaker 1>He did he did. We also get into a wild

0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>scoring segment presented by wind Bet. You know, we also

0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>getting fined by the nfor he got fined by the league.

0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Tons of times, tons of times. Then now he's like

0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the stand up owner of the league, the rise or

0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the Change, and also the Chiloopa brawls.

0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Chiloopa brawl. Baby, it's a wild one.

0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I I like crunt traps. I'm a crunch trap guy.

0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can never go wrong. Then we wrap it

0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>up with scoring, our scoring system.

0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Self scoring, self scouting, self or.

0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Self scout, self scout the show. Yep, I mean that's

0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.840
<v Speaker 1>something you have to do. The tapes never is good,

0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and the tapes never is bad. All the best do it?

0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe now, make sure to check us out Games with

0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Names on your YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, and TikTok at

0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:24.239
<v Speaker 1>games with Names. Subscribe on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever

0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you listen to podcasts. Comment a game you want us

0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.400
<v Speaker 1>to do, and remember to rate and review. Games with

0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Names is brought to you by win Bet. Win Bet

0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.520
<v Speaker 1>brings the excitement of win Las Vegas and Encore Boston

0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Harbor to your phone. Join win bet today and bet

0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.360
<v Speaker 1>with the official online gaming product from win Resorts. Let's go.

0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.080
<v Speaker 1>June twelfth, twenty eleven.

0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.320
<v Speaker 3>American Airlines Arena Miami, Florida.

0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.720
<v Speaker 1>The Big Three are looking for their first.

0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Title, but Dirk and my MAVs have the plans.

0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:11.760
<v Speaker 5>This is Game six ah the twoy eleven MBA Finals.

0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Today we have a very special guest, legendary entrepreneur owner

0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Dallas Mavericks. We all know him in Shark Tank.

0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.599
<v Speaker 1>He was the bad boy of the owners back in

0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.839
<v Speaker 1>the day. Like, that's what I remember early in my

0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.960
<v Speaker 1>stages of watching you when you were first time owned,

0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.680
<v Speaker 1>when you first became owner. Then now you've become like

0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the model citizen of the No no, no no no.

0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know, just don't find me over it is.

0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.360
<v Speaker 1>They don't find you anymore. I just always remember you're

0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.760
<v Speaker 1>getting fined all the time. Welcome to the show. This

0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.240
<v Speaker 1>is Games with Names. We basically are on a mission

0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to find the greatest games of all time. The Gog

0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all games. Everyone talks about the Goat,

0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all time. This is a podcast where

0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we go back and we get to have people that

0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.719
<v Speaker 1>have experienced this game in some situation, some sort of scenario,

0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you being the owner of the team, and we talked

0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.080
<v Speaker 1>about the inside, you know, inside scoop of everything. So

0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.320
<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on.

0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk about it now.

0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to start off. You're from Pittsburgh, PA. I'm

0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a football guy. Yeah, that's a football town.

0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Sure is Western Pa.

0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Western Pa.

0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I went to Kent State, so I grew up with

0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I went to school with all these Western Pa because

0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Kent State's not far from not far like two hours. Now.

0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.080
<v Speaker 1>You're a huge Steelers fan.

0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Yep, still am hardcore.

0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And then big basketball fan as well.

0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was hard to wint Pittsburgh. But definitely growing

0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.640
<v Speaker 3>up for sure, I'm just you know, sports fan my

0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:35.240
<v Speaker 3>entire life.

0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, how did you get to Indiana?

0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.880
<v Speaker 3>So my path was kind of backass halfwards. When I

0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.520
<v Speaker 3>was in high school, they wouldn't let me take a

0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.880
<v Speaker 3>business class when I was a junior, So I took

0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.320
<v Speaker 3>a class at the University of Pittsburgh night and I'm like, okay,

0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.240
<v Speaker 3>this was easy, I can do that. And so I

0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't go back for my senior year. I literally dropped

0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.000
<v Speaker 3>out of high school went to the University of Pittsburgh

0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.400
<v Speaker 3>my senior year, but they didn't have a business school either.

0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I just like, I thought it was cool that, you know,

0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I was living on campus and going back to my

0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.640
<v Speaker 3>high school prom and you know, be fun like that.

0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I said, Okay, I gotta get a little

0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.600
<v Speaker 3>bit serious. So ill thisted the top ten business schools

0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.640
<v Speaker 3>and I checked out the cheapest one and it was Indiana. Yeah.

0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The reason that was yeah, funny to hear it come

0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:18.120
<v Speaker 1>out of your mouth.

0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'd never set foot on campus, hadn't

0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.240
<v Speaker 3>seen it at all. All I knew about it was

0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.119
<v Speaker 3>that I could afford it, had a great business school.

0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.720
<v Speaker 3>And there was a book way back then that was

0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.560
<v Speaker 3>like the Insiders Guard Guide to College and it said

0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.160
<v Speaker 3>it was one of the best party in campuses in

0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the country. I'm like, let's go.

0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.279
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. I've heard that too. And you're Jewish. Yeah,

0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of Jews that go to Indiana that

0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, like five or six Jewish families that went into.

0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.360
<v Speaker 3>That, I know the Rosenbergs. But but yeah, like when

0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I got there, there were all the Jewish. All the

0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Jews were like either in Jewish fraternity or Jewish art

0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.080
<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't in either. And I mean literally no, Lie.

0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I remember meeting some girl that I thought was cute

0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.520
<v Speaker 3>going to in Foster Quad, going to the Little cafeteria

0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.280
<v Speaker 3>there to get a bagel, and she's I've never had

0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.320
<v Speaker 3>a bagel before, and I'm like really, She goes, are

0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:18.120
<v Speaker 3>you Jewish? I'm like yeah, she goes, like where I

0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.280
<v Speaker 3>grew up in Indiana, we thought you was had like

0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.320
<v Speaker 3>horns coming out of their head. There's a lot of

0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.080
<v Speaker 3>things that went through my mind about horns, but I

0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't say them. But yeah, it was a unique experience

0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.400
<v Speaker 3>going on you. But you know, that was my freshman

0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.160
<v Speaker 3>year and it was a great experience.

0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You're invested in a bunch of businesses. Yeah, it's been

0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:44.560
<v Speaker 1>highly noted that you've tried to buy other organizations baseball teams, soccer,

0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.920
<v Speaker 1>no soccer, A lot of baseball teams that I've heard just.

0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Too, the Rangers and the Pirates, oh three in the Cubs.

0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the Panthers. Didn't you try to take a

0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.160
<v Speaker 1>stab at the Panthers in the NFL?

0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.760
<v Speaker 3>A little no, No, because I can never really afford

0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.880
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. You got to be all in and they

0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.240
<v Speaker 3>don't come up for sale a whole lot.

0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:02.480
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And so there was a chance I had an opportunity

0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.120
<v Speaker 3>to buy into the Steelers. A minority owner contacted me

0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.080
<v Speaker 3>about selling and I just didn't want to be a

0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:12.760
<v Speaker 3>minority owner.

0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then.

0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Tepper bought the Panthers, right, And I guess they did

0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.840
<v Speaker 3>reach out to me at some point, but I wasn't

0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.280
<v Speaker 3>into it. But you talk about, you know, Jews in Pittsburgh.

0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even i'd met David. I didn't realize until

0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.840
<v Speaker 3>after the fact when somebody sent me a picture. I

0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.600
<v Speaker 3>went to a sweet sixteen party for a girl I

0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.679
<v Speaker 3>had a crush on, had no chance with, and they

0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.000
<v Speaker 3>sent me a picture saying, that guy, right there is

0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.760
<v Speaker 3>David Tepper and there's me and we were both sixteen

0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.600
<v Speaker 3>years old. Wow. Yeah, so probably both chasing the same

0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.480
<v Speaker 3>girl and looking at the picture of him looking at

0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.360
<v Speaker 3>the picture of me, neither of us had a chance.

0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, NFL is still on a decline, you know.

0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.760
<v Speaker 3>I said that, and people are like, still rip me

0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.600
<v Speaker 3>on it. But you know, I still firmly believe that

0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.800
<v Speaker 3>when you try to ask for too much, pigs get fat,

0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.839
<v Speaker 3>hogs get slaughtered, that that it backfires. And it hasn't

0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.199
<v Speaker 3>happened yet. And I think I think my timeline got

0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.960
<v Speaker 3>pushed off some because of gambling, because that kind of

0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:19.240
<v Speaker 3>just propelled everything, you know, But the TV and media

0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.960
<v Speaker 3>industry is changing a lot, and it's going to be

0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.439
<v Speaker 3>really interesting to see how it impacts all professional sports,

0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.679
<v Speaker 3>including the FBA, you know, but the NFL dominates. The

0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.400
<v Speaker 3>NFL is basically keeping TV alive, and so it'll be interesting.

0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.960
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy because you made your money in that broadcast

0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:41.160
<v Speaker 1>streaming streaming, Yeah, we started the first, that's yeah. Is

0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it going to come to a point now where like

0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks are going to have you guys are going

0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to start streaming your own games and you know, forget

0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the networks, forget it because that's where it's essentially going.

0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two things there, right, So like we started

0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Todd Wagner and I started an EU, Buddy started Audio

0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.079
<v Speaker 3>netback in nineteen ninety five, which was the first streaming company,

0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.760
<v Speaker 3>which sticking back has been twenty eight years. That's insane.

0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:10.440
<v Speaker 3>But where you know now things are everything streaming, everything's digital, right,

0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.080
<v Speaker 3>The question is where's the money? And the hard part

0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:19.080
<v Speaker 3>is that with regular linear television, like when when you

0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.920
<v Speaker 3>have your cable or your satellite, direct TV chart or

0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.720
<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be, you don't switch every month, right,

0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.559
<v Speaker 3>But with streaming, whether it's Netflix, Peacock, Hulu, whatever. You

0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.640
<v Speaker 3>just click one button and you can check in and

0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.400
<v Speaker 3>check out every month, right, And that's going to have

0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.400
<v Speaker 3>a big impact that I think people are underestimating now.

0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, at the same time, the football's football and

0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.120
<v Speaker 3>it's on you know, over the air TV, and I

0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.079
<v Speaker 3>think that's a big advantage.

0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:47.760
<v Speaker 1>But the ticket just went to YouTube TV.

0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, that's gonna be really interesting to see.

0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.560
<v Speaker 1>What It's going to be very interesting, and you know,

0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what kept direct TV alive was having

0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the exactly exactly. Now they don't have the ticket, it's

0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.400
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna die.

0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, and it's really convenience and you know, it's

0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:09.120
<v Speaker 3>a hassle to switch and for you know, some you

0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.840
<v Speaker 3>get and it's not cheap, you know, no matter which

0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.120
<v Speaker 3>platform it's on, and so you got to be able

0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to afford it. And that that's really gonna make it

0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.000
<v Speaker 3>really interesting. But you know, YouTube zonned by Google. Google's

0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.360
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of money and they can adapt. If

0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:24.959
<v Speaker 3>they don't get the subs that they need, we'll see

0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:25.319
<v Speaker 3>what happens.

0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Amazon two Amazon two now tell us about this game

0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:34.839
<v Speaker 1>six twenty eleven, Miami Heat versus you.

0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Know, the Dallas game, six man. It was three two

0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.600
<v Speaker 3>MAVs in Miami.

0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.760
<v Speaker 6>In Miami, and there's like this NBA thing where for

0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.680
<v Speaker 6>a closeout game in the finals, and some teams do

0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.560
<v Speaker 6>it other rounds, and I'm curious if you guys do

0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:53.240
<v Speaker 6>it in the NFL.

0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Guys were black because funeral? Do they do that in

0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:58.720
<v Speaker 3>the NFL?

0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I always love to wear black pregame suits. Uh huh,

0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.680
<v Speaker 1>just like that Johnny Cash kind of you know that field, Yeah,

0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the killer, yeah, killer, here to go to a funeral

0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and this is not a fun thing, yep. We're here

0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to put people away, put.

0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.160
<v Speaker 3>People away, to bury them, right.

0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:16.839
<v Speaker 1>To bury them.

0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.920
<v Speaker 3>And that was the attitude. And I just have you know,

0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.320
<v Speaker 3>getting off the bus, just the image of all the

0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.360
<v Speaker 3>guys right walking into black suits, just got that look

0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.720
<v Speaker 3>right where this is like, now's the chance, right, you

0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.080
<v Speaker 3>know we if we lose, we still have one more game,

0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.840
<v Speaker 3>but you don't want to give them another chance, right

0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and now as possible, and just that focus and that fire.

0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.120
<v Speaker 3>It was fun. I mean, and you know, from an

0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.120
<v Speaker 3>owner's perspective, I'm just terrified the whole game, right, you know,

0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.480
<v Speaker 3>people think, oh it's so exciting, it's fun, it's Nerve

0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:51.800
<v Speaker 3>wracking is the furthest thing from fun ever, because every possession, everything,

0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.959
<v Speaker 3>you're just your emotions are just.

0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.640
<v Speaker 1>All over the map and you're not in control.

0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.640
<v Speaker 3>No control whatsoever.

0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the worst thing. It's kind of like when you're

0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in or now that I'm watching, I still support my team.

0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you sit and you watch and you're like,

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.599
<v Speaker 1>it's nerve wracking because you can't do it.

0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.040
<v Speaker 3>It's nothing I can do right, it's all and your

0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.720
<v Speaker 3>body reacts like you're still playing or playing right, and

0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.679
<v Speaker 3>you're you know, not that I played NBA, but you know,

0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.200
<v Speaker 3>it's still just basketball right in my body. You know,

0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.079
<v Speaker 3>it's it's insane your mind and you're looking for things

0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.200
<v Speaker 3>and if they don't happen, you freak out. And when

0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it works, you freak out. And yeah, it's just such

0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.360
<v Speaker 3>an emotional roller coaster from the night before at least

0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.320
<v Speaker 3>till till when the game starts.

0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:39.120
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy for me because basketball and baseball and hockey

0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and these teams that you guys gotta go out win

0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.839
<v Speaker 1>a series, you know, so like there's such an emotional

0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:49.440
<v Speaker 1>roller coaster that it's it's longer than an NFL one.

0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Brutal ours is like a quarter. I know that it's

0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the next series. You gotta you gotta go.

0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And in the NBA they say every game is

0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.280
<v Speaker 3>a series. When you win a game, you feel like

0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.040
<v Speaker 3>you're never going to lose again, and when you lose

0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.520
<v Speaker 3>a game, you feel like you're never going to win.

0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.600
<v Speaker 3>It's that that brutal, because you know there's it's a

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.640
<v Speaker 3>game of adjustments, not just in game, but between games,

0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.000
<v Speaker 3>especially because you have at least a day off and

0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.600
<v Speaker 3>nobody's sleep and everybody's working on trying to figure out

0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.640
<v Speaker 3>what you did right, what you did wrong, and you know,

0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.680
<v Speaker 3>how do you how do you win that next game?

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy. Tell us a story about you buying

0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the MAVs.

0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we sold broadcast dot Com and I was

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.920
<v Speaker 3>living in Dallas and I was a season ticket holder

0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.120
<v Speaker 3>and we sucked.

0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:34.840
<v Speaker 1>No, wait, how did you get to Dallas? First? I

0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>sorry to cut you off. You're from Pittsburgh. Go to Indiana.

0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I heard you were like busting tables or

0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're owning a bar in Texas or something.

0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.560
<v Speaker 3>I owned a bar in Bloomington and we got shut

0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 3>down from underage drinking. And thank god because I was.

0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't even turned twenty one when we started at Cheesy,

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and then obviously I had friends that I was letting in.

0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't care. CB. We had a radio where we

0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.080
<v Speaker 3>would listen in a scanner, please scanner, and I would

0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.560
<v Speaker 3>sit behind the bar or sit upstairs and I would

0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.720
<v Speaker 3>listen to the scanner and just like listen for the

0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.800
<v Speaker 3>cops to come. And then they found out that I

0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.040
<v Speaker 3>got it, and they playned a raid and they raided

0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.040
<v Speaker 3>my ass. But that was probably a good thing.

0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Entrepreneurials bad boy. Yeah that was day one.

0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Twenty one and let's go. But yeah, so from there,

0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, time to go. And a bunch of

0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.240
<v Speaker 3>my friends had moved to Dallas, and I'm calling them

0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.520
<v Speaker 3>on the phone and they're like, you gotta come down.

0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.960
<v Speaker 3>You got to come down. The weather's great. I mean

0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I growing up Pittsburgh and Bloomington where the weather sucks, right,

0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the weather's great. The economy is pretty decent, because back

0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.080
<v Speaker 3>then in the early eighties, like it was like the

0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Great Recession, where you know, unemployment was like ten to

0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.760
<v Speaker 3>eleven percent or worse depending where you were, and it's like, okay,

0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.040
<v Speaker 3>where can I get a job, and they're like, the

0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.880
<v Speaker 3>economy's good, the weather's good, the women are hot. I'm

0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:04.360
<v Speaker 3>like coming. And so I got my Fiat X one

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.920
<v Speaker 3>nine nineteen seventy seven, Fiat X one nine that had

0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.440
<v Speaker 3>a hole on the floorboard, and then just blow through

0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.800
<v Speaker 3>oil and had enough money. I think I had sixty

0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.320
<v Speaker 3>bucks where I could get gas and oil and make

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.640
<v Speaker 3>it to my buddy's apartment in the village, which was

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.240
<v Speaker 3>the largest apartment complex in the country at the time,

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.200
<v Speaker 3>and there were five guys already there. They're like, just

0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 3>stay on the floor as long as you need to.

0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.680
<v Speaker 3>So I did. I didn't have a bed, didn't have

0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.000
<v Speaker 3>a closet, didn't have a drawer. I just had a pile.

0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Man. And then then that's the start of it.

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Everyone started.

0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Everyone has those rags to riches.

0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, everybody has an origin story.

0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It's the best, it's the best. Let's just jump into

0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.400
<v Speaker 1>your owner ownership stock. And I was around a great owner,

0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.800
<v Speaker 1>mister Craft. Yeah, Robert's cool and uh, you know he

0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.160
<v Speaker 1>was at the facility every day, was he he was.

0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.160
<v Speaker 1>He was at every team meeting, he was in the meetings.

0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was doing this thing. He had you know,

0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.000
<v Speaker 1>craft enterprise in the area that we were at above

0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>our locker room, so he was always around. Were you

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:05.879
<v Speaker 1>that type of owner you were?

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean clearly more yeah at the beginningmore like when

0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I first got there. I'm like forty one years old,

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I think, and I still hope like five times a

0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 3>week at that time, right, and so I just wanted

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.879
<v Speaker 3>to be anywhere where they're playing ball right that. But

0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I also had to learn the business, so I would

0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I would spend a lot of time there just trying

0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to figure things out and trying to understand. I didn't

0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 3>come in with my own group. I kept everybody that

0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.159
<v Speaker 3>was there for better or worse. And there were a

0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 3>couple of things that were the most important to me.

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.240
<v Speaker 3>One was connecting to the players, because I wanted to

0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:43.080
<v Speaker 3>understand what made it work, because, you know, not being

0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.439
<v Speaker 3>a higher level athlete, but just least someone who's been

0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 3>in the locker room. I understood that chemistry was everything,

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 3>and if you didn't have you didn't have players that

0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.359
<v Speaker 3>could play together or respected the organization, it wasn't going

0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.320
<v Speaker 3>to work. And he gave me a chance to learn

0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 3>from guys like you know, not just Dirk, but Michael Finley,

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Steve Cedric Sabalis, Sean Rooks, Hubert Davis, guys that were

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.280
<v Speaker 3>on the roster that I was sitting just talk to him.

0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I was sitting on the plane and just talked to him,

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.119
<v Speaker 3>and I would just learn and learn and learn. And

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 3>then I, you know, dove in in terms of the

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.680
<v Speaker 3>business side, in terms of the front office side as well,

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.160
<v Speaker 3>where I remember sitting in meetings with our general manager

0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.320
<v Speaker 3>and him talking about deals. I'm like, you just watch,

0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll get it done. And he was like, that's typically

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.119
<v Speaker 3>not what happens owners. Just I'm like, let's just let

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.280
<v Speaker 3>me do my thing. And literally I was I was

0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.080
<v Speaker 3>calling other general managers, you know, would you do this trade?

0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:37.919
<v Speaker 3>Would you just do? I was loving life right. It

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.520
<v Speaker 3>was like a fantasy team for me. And I remember

0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 3>doing a trade with I forget the player's name, but

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 3>it was a seven team trade and just packing all

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 3>these pieces together and getting all these things to work,

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and that to me, that was just like heaven.

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.200
<v Speaker 3>And then I guess the other thing that that really

0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.200
<v Speaker 3>got me started. When I got there, I was going

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 3>through the numbers and we spent more on software support

0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and PC training than we did on player development, and

0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.000
<v Speaker 3>we had like four coaches, which was normal. And I'm like,

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 3>this is ridiculous, right, these guys were paying them, you know,

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.159
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars and we do

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.920
<v Speaker 3>nothing to make them better. And so I'm like, go

0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.399
<v Speaker 3>to all former MAVs who want to get back in

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the industry, because you know how it is, guys don't play,

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and he wants to get back in somewhere along the line,

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.679
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, hire them all. Pay them, like fifteen

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.119
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand dollars is not to make money, but

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 3>they're each going to have a guy that they do

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.600
<v Speaker 3>workouts for and do development for. And I got destroyed.

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Other owners were like, what the hell are you doing?

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 3>You change our costs pioneer.

0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's now that everyone's everybody that's like, that's

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.919
<v Speaker 1>such a huge thing. The rookie symposiums and all that stuff.

0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't realize a lot of these

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 1>guys come from nothing. You dump a bunch of money

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in their lap and.

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all the time, and they don't know how to

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 3>be pros pros right, and sport.

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Is younger at a nineteen eighteen.

0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 3>And barely went to school. When they went to school,

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 3>yeah exactly. Yeah, were you guys for the most part

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 3>three or four years.

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 1>You have to do three, you have to do three. Yeah.

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 3>And so back then it was like there was no

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.879
<v Speaker 3>player development. Now we've got you know, we have interns

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 3>that are there just to rebound. We've got you know,

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 3>eight player development coaches. Whatever it is. It may even

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.440
<v Speaker 3>be more. Yeah, But back then they were like, you're

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 3>an idiot, you're ruining the game. Other owners were yelling

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 3>at me.

0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you name it anything different, That's how it

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 1>always is. And then you got to.

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Try to get an edge. Anything you can do to

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 3>get an edge.

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to twenty twelve, twenty eleven. Now, this

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>is a segment where we like to talk about pop culture.

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.880
<v Speaker 1>What was going on in that time. And number one

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 1>movie Super eight? Did you see it?

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:51.879
<v Speaker 3>I saw that movie?

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>That was That was JJ Abrams.

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 3>That was yeah. That was the one with Nicholas Cage

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.119
<v Speaker 3>right where he was oh no, no, Super eight, the

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 3>one where it's like give them movies. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The hype around it for me was so much

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>bigger than what I thought it was. I mean, it

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was well done.

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 3>But it was a good movie.

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>It was a good movie. Yeah, Whitey Bulgery know this

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is we we have a lot of Boston people. He

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 1>was arrested right down the street here in Santa Was

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that like twelve years ago. It's that's crazy.

0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just like you know, Rolling in the Deep, you know,

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 3>that was a great song. It was a song. And yeah,

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Dell and now she's dating Rich from Clutch, right, and

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 3>so it's just like a small connection.

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Kyrie Kyrie number one. Well you guys have Kyrie

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I love Kyrie.

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>You love him.

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 3>He's a good dude.

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I spent some time with them. So when I think

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I was suspended, I got suspended. I was on vacation.

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>The Celtics let me come into their organization and and

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>work with them. That's cool, just to keep a routine.

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 1>And uh I sat down with Kyrie a bunch. We

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>played ping pong and we just talk nothing about sports,

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 1>nothing about st That's who he is, you know, and

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he just ask random questions and you know, I don't

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>really know him, but like I he was like a

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 1>really interesting guy.

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 3>He really likes to get deep on something deep, really deep, right,

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Like he wants basketball is his profession, but he wants

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.679
<v Speaker 3>to be a more well rounded human, right, and he

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 3>wants to connect to people on a human level, which

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 3>is why I like Kyrie. But that's not easy for

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 3>everybody to accept or understand.

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not you know, it's it's tough because last few

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>years he's been with a bunch of teams and it's

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>hard for But you know.

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 3>What it's like when you look at athletes from the outside,

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.199
<v Speaker 3>you don't really know until you know them exactly. You know,

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of perceptions, a lot of misperceptions. But

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, when before we made the trade, you know

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I would I went back and I watch after games

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.639
<v Speaker 3>and other players around the league when they played him,

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 3>will come up and give him a big hug, right,

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Not let's just exchange jerseys, you know, pat him on

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 3>the back, pat him on the head. It's just like

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 3>no larger than larger than life. They connect to him.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 3>They love the guy, and that was a big difference maker.

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 3>And you know, when you talk to him, like because

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.199
<v Speaker 3>he is so deep, it's not the typical conversation you're

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.160
<v Speaker 3>gonna have with an athlete.

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it could be something about the moon. It could

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>be something literally about like the ocean.

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Right, and you know, and he's really big into his

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 3>genealogy and so his Lakota roots and all these things,

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 3>which I find fascinating. Yeah right, I told him this,

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 3>he goes, I told him, you remind me of my mom.

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 3>My mom was the same way. So it was pretty cool.

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What was life like for Mark Cuban in twenty eleven.

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, pre June twelfth or post June twelfth, let's go

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 3>pre pre It was, you know, getting to the playoffs.

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I have the best life in the world.

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 3>There's just just no way fans or butts about it.

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 3>My kids are healthy, so that wall was good. But

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, the sports side of things, you get to

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, and we had made it past the first

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.880
<v Speaker 3>round in a while, and there was some radio guys

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 3>that were calling us to one and done boys, and

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 3>so getting past.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 1>That, well the year before was that the Warriors.

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 3>No, that was a couple of years ago, a couple

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>of years yeah, where we were sixty seven and fifteen

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 3>the last time guys.

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't. That was crazy.

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 3>It was my shirt though, right, Yeah, yeah, I just

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, I like your shirt.

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I like your shirt too, Yeah.

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 7>You know, but uh, how's it changed since after te

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 7>Georgia was great because you know, I never paid for

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 7>a meal.

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean because we beat the dreaded heat right, the Heatles.

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Everybody hated them, and it was so different because, like

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 3>I remember, right after we won, I had to go

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 3>to New York for something I already had scheduled. On

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the tarmac, I got off the plane and people just

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 3>started clapping. We all we went to a restaurant for

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 3>an event and in New York and people just go

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 3>clapping for me everywhere I went, and even in the

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Board of Governor's meeting with other owners. When I came

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 3>into the next meeting, they started clapping, which was like insane.

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 3>That just doesn't happen.

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was like the second super big team

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>big three thing going on everyone. You know, the Celtics

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of got away with it because those guys were

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a little older in their career. They weren't necessarily in

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the prime like right, these three.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 3>No, it was going to be not one, not two,

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>not three.

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And then the whole announcement with Lebron like that exactly exactly.

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Plus Danny traded for those guys and he made those movies.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 3>These guys all that felt like left.

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, exactly now you're in Shark Tank. Yeah, you've

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>heard millions of pitches, millions. You were in on the

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Lebron sweepstake, tried to be what was the pitch? I

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>want to hear this legendary pitch A man that has

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>heard so many pitches in his life, you know, what

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>was your pitch?

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>We didn't get a chance really to sit down and

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 3>pitch and pitch him, so I had to go through

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>different channels, right through Maverick and other people I knew.

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 3>And it was.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Basically perfect guy to go through, by the way, with

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the Mavericks.

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Maverick Mavericks, right, Maverick Carter, And it was basically

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 3>this will be your town and you and Dirk together

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 3>that compliment each other, with Jason Kidd as a point guard.

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>But we didn't really, we never had to sit down

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:12.239
<v Speaker 3>with him.

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys, Fanny, Yeah, and that's exactly right.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 3>We even got a little message from Jerry, you know,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 3>a little video from Jerry and Tony Romo and all

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 3>these guys, and yeah, it didn't work, but it worked.

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It worked. It worked and.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 3>I made it all the sweeter. And I'll tell you

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 3>know a story about that. During that series, we were

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 3>down in last game one, were down in Game two

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 3>at halftime in Miami, and at that time to go

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>off the court, you walk on the court and you

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 3>make a left to go back to the locker room,

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and pat Riley sat right there, was standing right there,

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and he goes, we got you, Mark, We're too long,

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 3>too fast, and damn. Right after he says that we

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 3>come back in the second half and when and when?

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>So that was kind of is that an intimidation in

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>factor by old path?

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if he timidates me.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, but that's the kind of good is ARMANI suit?

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was arrogant, but that's okay.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I like little fire.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, there's always fire going I diden.

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to bring it up, but like, what

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>do people call you Mark?

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Ye?

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark?

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Cubes cuban Yeah, cubes Mark whatever que yeah just no,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 3>No one called me cube just cubes, yeah, Cuban cubes cues.

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>On this day in twenty twelve, twenty eleven, we also

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>go back on the social you were This will sound weird,

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm lying in bed with the trophy next to me.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Dreams do Dreams Come True with the hashtag yep legendary

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>tweet legendary look at mana. He was such a stud.

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, JJ is the Northeastern Eastern.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Mine was eat your eat my heart out. Maps are

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>playing with hot fire cowabunga.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.959
<v Speaker 7>Okay, good first half dirty.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling which he did heat up.

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yeah, because he was I remember in

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>the locker room he was shaking his head. He was

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 3>like two for eleven or something like that. I remember, yeah,

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 3>and he was shaking as everybody's like, Dirk, don't matter,

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 3>don't matter. Come on, this is where you make. This

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 3>is the part that counts because it was close and boom,

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 3>that's dark man.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>What a good guy will be right back after this

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>quick break. Games with Names is brought to you by

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>my friends at win Bet. Wind Bet is bringing the

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>excitement of win Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor to

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>online sports betting. Whether you're a recreational player or some

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>serious handicapper, win bet is your ticket to every exciting wager,

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>from straight bets to parlays, teasers, and any prop bet

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you can dream up. All players have access to win

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>rewards and can redeem them for resort credits in Las

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Vegas and Boston. Up today and get in the game

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>online or visit Boston Sports Book at Encore Boston Harbor.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>There's no better way to enjoy sports with the little

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>extra winnings in your pocket. Betting is a team sport.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Join the win bet team and bet with the best.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Must be twenty one or older and president in the

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>state where playthrough win bet is available. Terms and conditions

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>at winbet dot com. If you or someone you know

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>has a gambling problem called one eight hundred five two

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>to two four seven zero zero one.

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred five to two to two four seven zero zero, Jackie,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>why don't you jump in and set the stage for I.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Mean, we touched on a little bit of the narrative.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is the super team, the heat year.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Lebron Bosh d Wade. Lebron brings big Z down there

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>with him. We got role players. You got Mike Miller,

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>he got all those guys. He started a little slow

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>eight and nine lost to the Celtics in theory there, right.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>So they were ten and ten playing us, and we

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 3>beat them to make him ten to eleven. But that's

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>the game where people thought it was gonna blow up

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>because Lebron gave Spolstra the shoulder shrug, right, remember right,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 3>then I'll give you one other Miami Heat connection. So

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>when I first bought the MAVs, I got contacted by

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Eric Spolstra's dad, who wrote one of the best marketing

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>books ever, and asked me to write the forward. So yeah,

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 3>so I I know it wasn't afford. It was a blurb,

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 3>So I gave him a blurb for his book. The

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 3>book was great. I was glad to do it. And

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>then ten years later his son was coaching.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>He spose I mean, like, because I was a knock

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>on Spoe at the time. I go, he's too young

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to coach these stars like pat Riley, all this stuff

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>they're about.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>They were saying Pat was going to come out again, right.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what they were saying. I mean, it supposed

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>turned into just one of the rest. Yeah, is it?

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, he worked his way up from we were

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>joking towel boy the video room to head coach Blake.

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you think staying with that team that long and

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>building you know, heat culture is like part of what

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>makes him so special.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's hard to stay with

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 3>the team out It really really.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Is, especially in basketball. Yeah, like even great coaches that

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>win championships.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>You guys, especially recently, Yeah.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Because it's all it's a player's league.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 3>And the changes too, Like you brought the point about

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 3>guys being in college for three years in the NFL.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Now they're getting with the NBA. They're getting younger and younger,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>and social media is more impactful I think in basketball

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>than it is in football. I mean, there's some great

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>highlights for the NFL for high school and college players

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 3>on social media, but in basketball, kids are getting highlighted

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, and that's just

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>changed the whole mindset of kids coming in.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I was the first kid on social

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>media in the locker room in two thousand and nine,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>were you really Yeah, like my generation, the guys above

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>us were no clue. Everyone's before everyone and those Yeah,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, so over the time, you know, like you said,

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>these kids are getting famous when they're twelve. And even

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in football, you see a little kid he does a

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>backflip over a guy, right right, Yeah, and then he's

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>got like a million views. These guys they come into

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the locker room, you know, thinking they've done things already before,

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>they've done.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Things what's even the last couple of years now with

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.959
<v Speaker 3>nil they're getting paid because of it.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I used to make that joke all the time

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that the Alabama and the Florida guys were taking pay

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>cuts when they came to the NFL. Now it's legitimate

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's legit. It's crazy, but they were actually doing

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that as well then.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I know obviously, I mean, yeah, the story is

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a legendary, right, it's just above board now.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mark in saying that like this is this is

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>also sort of the first generation I feel like of

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>rookies that have maybe second or third year, but like

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that have had their whole life on like the overtime

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>afflication of that, Like, yeah, what do you see when

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 2>these rookie I come in, like.

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's there's there's a good side. I'm actually

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 3>positive about it, okay, Because one they've made some money,

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>some nil money in high school, let alone college or

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 3>through overtime a lead or you know, g legal eight.

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 3>That's a good thing because they start to learn how

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>to manage their money, so that's a positive. They don't

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 3>just come to us with that too. They're used to

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 3>being under a microscope, and they're used to being watched

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>in cameras everywhere. Like back then, I had to worry

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 3>about a call at two o'clock in the morning, you know,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and you had your teammates, right, you know, all that

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>stuff went down, and now I don't have to anymore.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, guys they know those cameras everywhere, and if

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be stupid, they're careful stupid, whereas back

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>then that just wasn't the case.

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the information era, you know, Like these guys are

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>smarter now a lot back in the day, Like you'd

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>have like five or six guys that ate steaks with

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>their hands, not a forking knife. Like that doesn't happen now.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>You see, like your linebacker he's eating a filet mignon,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>like with perfect etiquette, perfect right, you know, I think

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>he must have youtub it or something.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Really like two thousand and nine, right before then, Ivan Johnson,

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>who didn't end up making it with us. He played

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 3>with the Hawks for a couple of years. The guy

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I called him Ivan Drago, but he had no idea

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>who that was, and he would he literally would just

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 3>for shits and giggles, beat the beat the hell out

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 3>of people. And then he went to like Taiwan or

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the Philippines and play or Korea and just just destroyed

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 3>somebody and was booted from all leagues forever. And I

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 3>haven't heard from Ivan since. But yeah, it's you don't

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>have those guys anymore than thugs.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>He was last playing in the Philippines in twenty seventeen.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Is that what it was?

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shout out Ivan, Yeah, there you go, Ivan, Let's

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>get over to the main event. The average Jackie.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Mark, you might have to help me with

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 2>this one. You know better than me. But I was

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>going through watching this stuff like this team with all

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 2>the guys, the Jason Terry's, the Deshaun. I forgot how

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>good Deshaun Stevenson was in this series and that it

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 2>was Oh my god. He was torturingate from saying the

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Jet Terry, I love.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 3>The Jet Jet Jet.

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Just talked to him yesterday.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, he's with Is he with Arizona still? Longe

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>utah utah Okay, that's right. And he was assistant but

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>old veteran group yep. That was kind of the not

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>coming into this yep, third seed in the West, kind

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>of like everyone kind of said, flew under the radar.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 3>And we had a lot of injuries too. I mean,

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 3>people don't realize Roddy bau Boah number three, he was

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 3>like our young speed demon. He got hurt. Karan Butler,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>who's now with the heat, he got hurt. He was

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 3>our number two score and we were literally like twenty

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>nine and three after thirty. It was just insane or

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty nine and five something like that. How good we were.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Then Roddy Koran get hurt and then Dirk gets hurt too,

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 3>and we lost six in a row, and people were like, oh,

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 3>it's over for these guys, it's over. But we got

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>we went on this West coast road trip I'll never

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 3>forget where we were just getting blown out by twenty

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty five points every single game. And it was after

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the All Star break if I remember right, and it

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 3>was just like we were not like in high spirits

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>at that point.

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like how do you deal with that in in

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>your sport? Because we you know, in football, we only

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>have sixteen games, seventeen games. Now, we'd lose a game,

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>we'd come in the building the next day and it

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was like a fucking funeral.

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Well it's still it's the same in the NBA. But

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 3>if you guys have like you go on games once

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>the next in the playoffs, it's definitely like that. But

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>even during the regular season, like you get on the

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 3>plane and it's it's a funeral, right, but then prett,

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 3>next practice or you know, next game you got to go?

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Comes with leadership, Yeah, it does.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And and speaking of leadership, what's your best Dirk story?

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god that I'm allowed to tell.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>We love whatever this is.

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I've you know, I've had a lot

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>of fun with Dirk.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You're going to Germany with them?

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I have not been to Germany with Dirk.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Have not Octoberfest.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>He's invited me. Yeah, I did a october Fest with

0:36:55.840 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 3>Dirk when his sister got married, but it was in

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>the US. Dirk. So, okay, yeah, I'm gonna tell I'm

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna I'm gonna fix the story that Dirk told at

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 3>his Hall of Fame introduction, right, so his enshrinement. So

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Dirk gets up there and he talks about how when

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I first bought the team, we played one on one,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 3>which is true, and he says, yeah, I dunked on

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 3>his head and he quit, which is true. But what

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 3>he did say is I scored the first two buckets

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.439
<v Speaker 3>and I quit because I was up to one. So there,

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Dirk take that.

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>This year games with names Mark Cuban beats Dirk.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I have it on video too.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>So you can't dunk on a guy that's not elite,

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes you can.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I've been dunked on so many times

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 3>in my life.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And then I'd be remissed if we didn't talk about

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the road to the finals. You beat Kobe, you beat Durant,

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you beat Lebron, you beat Duell. That was in the finals,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>but Kobe Durant on the way to the fire that.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 3>First round against Portland, right, we were up two oh

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>maybe no it was two oh. And we go to

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Portland and we're up like twenty four at halftime and

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Roy, who could barely walk at the time but

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 3>it was just incredible player, came back and literally took

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>us and that made it to one, and I think

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>they tied it to two. But that really made us

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 3>come together and when we won that series, that really

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 3>built our confidence.

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes those come from behind or those losses that I saw.

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Like for us, it was in twenty fourteen. We went

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>on to win the Super Bowl. That year, we went

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and lost to the Green Bay Packers, and it was

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it was kind of like a basketball

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>trip for us. We went directly from Green Bay to

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>San Diego, stayed a week in San Diego, which we

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. You can usually go back and forth.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But it was such a gelling moment from us for

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>us after that loss in November to come back play

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>in San Diego. We all were together in that area.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like the first time.

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 3>You don't know what it takes, right, don't because you know,

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 3>you got fifty three guys, which makes it ten times

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 3>harder and you barely get to know any of some

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 3>of them, you know.

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know, and it's constantly revolving, right, just like

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys, You guys are getting those ten day contracts and.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Changes, but not as much as like you guys, right,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>it's like, who were you with us? You know? It

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>takes time because when there's only fifteen guys, everybody's got

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 3>their own the veterans that they got their own personalities, right,

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 3>and they've got their own history and they've been through

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 3>it enough where they want to win. But it takes

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>time for everybody to get the rolls down. And we

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 3>got we got all that together early, and then the

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 3>injuries come along and then you know, we're still there's

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 3>stilled with some uncertainty. Then we get to Portland, we

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 3>get whooped on that comeback and it was like, okay,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 3>this is what we got to do. We cleaned it up.

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Rick Carlisle was great about it, figured it out, and

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 3>then boom, we just started rolling rolling. It was insane.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>You guys swept the Lakers.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I remember going into that series going, oh shit,

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 3>this is the two time defending champs. This is gonna

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 3>be tough.

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Now. Now we're full anti Laker podcasts. Okay, pro Kobe

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>podcast we love called anti Laker just any there with you?

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Any Kobe stories.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Kobe and I would text back and forth more like

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 3>towards the end of his career.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>He's picking your brain for entrepreneurs.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I would. I would give him shit. I'm like, okay,

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>now that you're retired, and I remember when he retired,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, now you're on mar turf. I'm gonna

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 3>kick your ass, but I'm happy to help you if

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>you're willing to accept the requirements. And yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah, And and you know we got We weren't close,

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 3>but we got to be friends.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember he came and spoke to our team. We'd

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>always have some speaker in the off season. And the

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of knowledge that came out of his on a

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>wide range, not just competition, not just sport, but like

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>how he educated himself in like multiple different facets of

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>life that I could speak like four languages, which insane,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, like he was a he was a brilliant guy.

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he knew, I mean felt that when year around him.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>For sure. I mean he knew that he was going

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 3>to play to hes forty at the oldest right and

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 3>he was gonna hope so, you know, heartbreaking now, but

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 3>life is a little much longer, you know, when you're fortunate,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>and I think he wanted to prepare for that.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, we got to pour a little out for

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Kobe of the p h By the way, I'm not

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a pitch guy, but you know, this water brand is

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>my water brand, and we are taking it.

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just choking, but I think I saw this on Amazon.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're on Amazon because it's great water.

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I think they had a special on because I think

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I bought like two eight packs. Are they like an

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 3>eight pax?

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got him in eight packs.

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 3>When we're done, I'll look on my Amazon because refrigerator.

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Right now, we're gonna send him to you. Even better,

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>even better if free will give you three You learned

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>all right? So you notoriously went dark? Yeah on social

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're social guy zero dark thirty. We all heard

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>from Lebron. So you're the real pioneer of shutting it

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>all down for the playoffs. Yeah, for sure. What you

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>had to get into mindset, you had to let everyone

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>know you were focusing up.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm stupid, stitious and so stupid. You know, I've

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 3>been talking all the other ones and had to work

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 3>for us, So I'm like, I'm just gonna shut the

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>fuck up. And when we won the first series, I'm like, Okay,

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 3>it's working. Then the next it's working again. I'm not

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna say a word. And you know, I don't know

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>about you, but I have so many routines that I'm

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 3>just stupid stitious about. Like if you watch me from

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 3>the first game of the first series. Up until Game six,

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 3>my face bloated like this because my thing was, Okay,

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 3>if I take a sip of the of my diet

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>coke at the right moment, we'll score.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And if I.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Take my diet coke and put it down the exact

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 3>right spot that we'll get a stop. And obviously it worked.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 3>So I just kept on doing.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 1>What's the record for dCas in a game?

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I have no idea, there is no lie. I

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 4>would just give the guy a hundred bucks to say,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 4>just come. And so I have so many like where

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 4>I sit, where my arms go, this on that. Still

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 4>to this day, I was.

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>The same way. I was very superstitious. Pregame what you eat,

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>when you eat everything, you have all routines, getting to

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the stadium early, like everything had to be tailor.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Just reduces the stress because you gotta, you know, just

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, like you said, I can't do anything, so

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I gotta distract myself.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it. Game breakdown, Jackie.

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Like we said earlier, Dirk started cold, Lebron started hot,

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>back and forth all first quarter. Then when I thought

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>was interesting, MAVs got their first double digit lead of

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole series in the second quarter of this one.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Was that the whole series, the whole series, back and

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 2>forth all series and then of course the NBA a

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>game of runs. He'd come back, uh kill that twelve

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 2>point lead. Then we got a little scuffle before the half,

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 2>which I love to see. You don't see scuffles in

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the finals anymore, which I mean no.

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 3>But when when you're the you know, the favorite saying

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 3>things aren't going so well, there's always scuffles.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 2>It was Shawn and there mixing it up.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Sean. Shawn's a beast. I mean, I mean, who else

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 3>has got Abraham Lincoln on their neck?

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Now? Now? Forgot about that as an owner when you

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>see these because there's there's a lot of owners that

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>probably say, look at these guys are out there fighting,

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like does it fire you up? Did it fire you up?

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Of course?

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Or is it like what are we doing? No?

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean unless it's going to cost us a technical

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 3>in a close game, right, but Noah gets me fired up.

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk quick. Another quick story. When I first bought

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 3>the team, right We're in Reunion Arena and I hadn't

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 3>known the team probably ten games, and we we had

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 3>this thing where if the mav scored one hundred points,

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 3>everybody in the fan, all the fans in the arena

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 3>got chaloupa free chiloopas from Taco Bell whatever it was.

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 3>And so one of our guys, Gary Trent, even though

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, because kind of NBA unwritten rules are, if

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 3>you're up at the end, you don't go for that

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 3>last bucket. You just let the clock run out. One

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 3>of our guys. The fans are going chah loopah, cha loopah.

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>So Gary Trent throws it up there to score, right,

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 3>and I think it was Oliver Miller. Somebody throws them

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>on the ground and is on top of them. And

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm standing there because the game's over and we're expected

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 3>just to want I run out on the court while

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>they're they're still playing while all this is going on,

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.919
<v Speaker 3>and you should see the look on the ref's eyes

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 3>and to try to stop me. And I realized, Mark,

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 3>these guys are a whole lot bigger than guys you

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.439
<v Speaker 3>ever played with. So get your ass back.

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But you got to keep the customer happy. They want.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Entrepreneur one on one, Yeah, no stupidity one on one

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 3>with both of those guys are two fifty and up.

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, so you were always on the you're always

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>on the bench. Yeah, I still do and it's still

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>on the bench.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I just pulled it up from the headline in the

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Washington Post from the next day, Cuban punished for part

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in Chiloupa Melee classic.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh my God in the Washington Post of all places. Whoa,

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 3>that's funny as hell. What year was that?

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 2>That was from February seventeenth, oh one?

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right when I bought the team.

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Jeloopa Melee. That's Chiloopah Melee. Now, when you're on the

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>sideline or the bench football, like, are you in there?

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Like are do you? Are you saying anything to the guys? Yeah? Yeah.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>When coaches got him and he's drawing up a play,

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>are you over there? Well, because like, hey, why don't

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:54.479
<v Speaker 1>you let's do this play?

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 3>No, but like I'll talk to the guys, Like because

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 3>the guys who are in the game right, they're focused

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 3>on the you're not listening to me and I'm not

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 3>talking to them. But guy just comes out of the

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 3>game and it's like, hey, you know, just reminder this

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>guy does this or whatever. And guy, I mean, I'm

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 3>not I don't yell at guys and saying you shocked.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Da da da da da. It's always encouraging and positive

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 3>nine percent of the time.

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And then being on the bench, you're like one of

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the first owners to like get to be involved.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm screaming a yelling.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But the celebration when you guys win, Oh, that's the

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>best part.

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the best part, you know, because when there's

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 3>like just one possession left, right, nobody just sits on

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 3>the bench where they're supposed to be. Everybody stands up

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 3>right at the sidelines right in anticipation of what's going

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 3>to happen, and everybody's holding their breath and that ball

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 3>is in the air, and if it misses, it's like

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 3>ah da da da, see ya da da da, And then.

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 4>What goes in I'm sprinting on, I'm getting in that

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 4>pile on. Absolutely, absolutely, that's the best part.

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>As a player, that's that's awesome when you see your

0:47:55.480 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>owner that is that passionate about the team the game win,

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what you want to play for, you know,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that's that's something that you should you know. Look, I mean,

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>as a player, it's just awesome to see the owner.

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 3>It's not even about being the owner. It's just part

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 3>of the team being a computer, the competitor, right computer.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 3>It's just like if you're not in the game as

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 3>an athlete, it's it's different, but just every inch of

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 3>my bean is caught up on what's going on in

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 3>that moment, right There's no Okay, there's another game. There's

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 3>none of that with me. It's just like every it

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>could be, you know, other than preseason games, game one,

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 3>game forty, game eighty, whatever it is. I'm all in, yeah,

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, And.

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a beauty about sport because like with with our face,

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>with our organization, when we won, it wasn't just us

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>winning as players, it was the people that were serving us,

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the people that were saying as the organization, you know

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, the organization, you know, every ladies that

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>are helping you out everyone, but did their job to

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>help us win.

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>People don't released in the NBA. You lose money. You

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 3>make more money when you have a bad team than

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 3>when when you win a championship because you're buying rings

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 3>for everybody, and those rings were expensive.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a few of those bad boys the aftermath. Yeah,

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>take us through the night a live We all have

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone's got a story at liv what by the way,

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>what a great place to win a championship?

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Miami? Miami, well especially there are so many MAVs fans

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 3>that have gone down there that by the end there

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, the chance were let's go MAVs, which was

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>just so much fun. And then Jet was like, we

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.439
<v Speaker 3>got to go out. We got I'm like, Dirk, yeah,

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 3>we got to go out, right, So we we wrangled

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 3>up a party bus somehow some way and went a championship,

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 3>just won a championship, right, so we're like going to live.

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, cool, let's go.

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>First time there? No no, no, no.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Perfect spot right because I had to scout and so

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 3>we went and oh boy, it was. It was a night.

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 1>What's your best what's your best celebration memory?

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, the first part was my card getting declined when

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 3>we went to buy a big bottle of Champlaine champagne.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 3>That was insane.

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 7>So didn't call the accountant to let him know you're

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 7>in Miami, a purchase the bottles will get you.

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I had changed my my MX card for whatever reason, right,

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and they came up to me like Mark, we've got

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 3>this huge bottle of ace of Spade, not a Spades

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 3>whatever it was, and no, it was as Spades and

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>it was like one hundred and forty grand and they're like,

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 3>do you want it? And Jerk's like, yes, he wants it,

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, okay, yeah, let's get it. And then

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes later go buy and there's nothing, and Jerk's like,

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 3>where is this? Come on, Cubs, where is it. I'm like,

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>let me find out. Then two minutes later, you know,

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 3>it's one of those mister Cuban went from Mark to

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>mister Cuban, can we see you back here for a minute?

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Like your card was declined? I'm like what. I'm like,

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, let's get americans Express on the line. And

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 3>we call American Express and the lady said, I'm sorry,

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 3>I can't approve it because it's just you know, you're

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 3>at a club, it's one hundred and four thousand, You've

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 3>never bought anything like this. We just changed cards and

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 3>it's fraud detection. I'm like, can I talk to your

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 3>manager and they're like, yes, sir, and he's like, how

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>do I know? This is Mark Cuban and dah da

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 3>dah I'm like, were you just watching TV? Did you

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 3>see that we just won a championship and I'm trying

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 3>to buy a bottle of champagne? You know, just go

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 3>on whatever? It was, right, And so they finally approved

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 3>it and I got my one hundred and forty thousand

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 3>dollar bottle of champagne.

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Did you keep that bottle of champagne for?

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I wish I had. I wish I had. We gave

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 3>it to somebody that was there who can at.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Least you know they're protecting you.

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, exactly.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like goddamn airport. You know, you tussle every

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>time you have to go, and you're like, thank god

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>they're checking. Ye. How special was it to get Dirk

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Kidd a title for their like.

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 3>Really really important because you know, Dirk had just been

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, criticized relentlessly about how he couldn't win the

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 3>big game.

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was like the best player. He had that stigma.

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>He was the best player in the league that couldn't

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 1>win it, yep.

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 3>And so I was happy for him. And Jay Kid

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was thirty eight, you know, he needed it and wanted it,

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 3>and they just busted their ass and so yeah, I

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 3>was happy for.

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Both of them. Jason kid coming back.

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 3>It was nice.

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'm from the Bay Area

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and so he's an Oakland was he was a legend.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 1>He was, he was a legend. Is Dirk the best

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 1>euro of all time?

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Now Jokic is going to be up there with

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.919
<v Speaker 3>him when it's all said and done. But Dirk, without question,

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 3>right now is number one guy.

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>What about Luke?

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Luca is going to be there too, for sure. I

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 3>think Luca has a chance to be a lot better.

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 3>But it's going to come down to Luca versus Jokic

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 3>for the best Europeans of all time.

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>No, you've hit, You've struck. You struck oil twice in

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>your own Like how does that? You know, how does

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that work that you were you? Is it lucky because

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you were the first, like Dirk was like really the

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>first European that like dominated. Yeah, and I'm talking about

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like there was always a couple of.

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Good players, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, game changing players.

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 3>That's just on Dirk, right, Dirk just worked his ass off,

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 3>just his the amount of effort he put in, like

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>during the season, no sugar, no fried chicken, you know,

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 3>nothing fried right, no alcohol during the season, and he's

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 3>just that committed and fortunate. A lot of that now

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 3>is starting to rub off on Luca and they're really

0:53:58.080 --> 0:53:59.399
<v Speaker 3>close friends. So it's cool to see.

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Is a Jim was very particular? Was engineering.

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Nice dry the.

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Did the heat live up to the hype?

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean obviously they won. They won again. They

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.240
<v Speaker 3>won three, I think, Yeah, so more power to them.

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That was it was cool to be take him down though, Yeah.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, Hey, I loved every minute.

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the best. That's that's insane. Jack. Did we miss anything?

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>We're pretty good. But I gotta give a little shine

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 2>to my man Yon me emy buzzer beater in this game.

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.720
<v Speaker 3>I saw Yan at the Hall of Fame and Shrineman.

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yan hit one of the biggest shots, right Yeah, end

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>of the third quarter, maybe just an elbow jumper like

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 3>and you could just see the whole arena and the

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 3>and the Miami bench just the air came out when

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 3>he was the later. Yeah. And another time he hit

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 3>like two clutch free throws.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Too underrated guy, ye, Mark. I don't ask much of

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 2>our guests on here, but this season, could you bring

0:54:57.800 --> 0:54:59.240
<v Speaker 2>back the MAVs football jersey?

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just telling you right. The first one is City.

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 3>I designed those way back and I love those things.

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.280
<v Speaker 3>That we sold out and then I don't know what happened,

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 3>and so I had them do it again and I'll

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 3>have it probably work for the opening game. It's sitting

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 3>in my closets. Com you guys do like, uh, you know,

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I love it. You asked that question, Jack.

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to like tell you they they they've

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>done those whole social media where the basketball team and

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the football team they do like they do like a

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>photo op of you know, the Boston Celtics wearing the

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Boston Patriots that we should do like a we should

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys.

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 3>We've done a bunch of stuff.

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 1>We've done that.

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not not quite to that extent, but that's actually

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.640
<v Speaker 3>a good idea. You know, show support for each other.

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 1>It shows support. But I can also see you know,

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>owners and owners of different leagues.

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 3>No, Jerry and I get along great.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you guys took it to another level. You

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 2>put one on the team.

0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was fun. I'd actually when I met Tony

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 3>we were playing pickup and he came up to me afterwards. Hey,

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Mark just wanted to produce myself. I'm the backup quarterback

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 3>for the Cowboys. I mean, I just thought this guy

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 3>can hoop, right, he was really good, and I'm like, oh, okay,

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 3>it's nice to meet you.

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>And then was he just dishing?

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh he could score, he could do it all like

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.919
<v Speaker 3>he was like him and Kron Butler were all all

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Wisconsin State, all start.

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Tony's a stud.

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, he's a hell of an golf He's

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 3>a hell of an athlete. It's good, dude.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Now, this is games with names. We like to name

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the game. This one's for Dirk. Okay, the first one

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>is the sweetest. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 3>I'd say this one's for Dirk.

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>This one's for Dirk. This one's for Dirk, kind of

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like when they remember when Broncos.

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not where you say it, but this one's for Dirk.

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. We got to score this game.

0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Score the game presented by win Bet.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 3>You got sponsors.

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Look at you. You know we'reneurial here. You know we're entrepreneurial.

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 1>You know I watched this show on one of these

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>TV networks where they.

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Sell and pitch and all that stuff.

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Taking notes.

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Is this presented by win Bet. This is win bet

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.439
<v Speaker 3>as in wynn Bet.

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the place in Vegas.

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 3>It's in Vegas.

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>There's one in Vegas. But they also have one in

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Massachusetts and Boston really and it's called win Bet.

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the wind Harbor on Core.

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 3>And you can get win bet online. You can you

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 3>can get have like an app.

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>We can place bets on apps on anything, sports, We

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>could put anything on anything that Wow.

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>When they have an app that I can download, you

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 3>can download it. So if I went to the iPhone store,

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the app store or the Place store and typed in

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 3>win bets two ends, wynn Bet, I could download their app.

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could download their app, and then you could

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>also book a vacation to one of their beautiful resorts.

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 3>One of their beautiful resorts.

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 1>There's one in Vegas, there's one in Boston.

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 3>So if I was so inclined and I really wanted

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 3>to change my life, I could go to the app

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 3>stores on Android or iPhone and download win bed app.

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could. I believe they even have it for BlackBerry.

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 3>If you have that st no, I'm betting on that.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.439
<v Speaker 3>I'll take your money on that one.

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Not a fat guy, but just check me. Let's uh,

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>let's let's score the game. The stakes of this game

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>zero to ten? What are the steaks for me? Ten? Ten? Yeah,

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't. I mean you never want to get it

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to a game seven.

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 3>No, No, you never know, because anything's possible.

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>When you got them down, you break their neck, throw

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>them away, throw them away, star power.

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, obviously it was the heatles, right, so that was

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 3>as big as you can get back then.

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So and then you guys also had Jason Kid or yeah,

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of course yead Jet.

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 3>So I mean everybody was watching because everybody wanted to

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 3>see what would happen, and it was you know, I

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel bad for him, but it was just like

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 3>everybody was rooting for us and against the Heat, so

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 3>we were the underdogs that everybody was rooting for.

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So ten ten.

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Gameplay probably an eight eight, yeah, because there was some

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 3>ugliness in the first half, end of the first half,

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:11.919
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't a pretty game until the end. Jet

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 3>hit a big three from deep Dirk did his left

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 3>handed layup. Yeah, so I'd say gameplay was it wasn't pretty.

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>But the name, this one's for Dirk, this one's.

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 3>For Dirk, this one's for the dirty Heat defeat.

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think we name it or what

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 1>do we do? We score it on the name?

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, the way you said it a six, the way

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I said I said it at ten? Ten I said it,

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>The middle of eight. Should we meet in the middle

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>of eight?

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>No, let's go ten, Let's go ten. This is this

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>is you. This could score out to the best game

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>we've ever done in the history.

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not stupid. It's like, if I give myself low scores,

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 3>it's never going to score as the best game. But

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 3>who's at the top of the leader board?

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you? Are you mathematician?

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Were you doing I can add, I can add an average.

1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Ye, where's it? Where's the line up? Jackie?

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>This is taking the number one spot, number one, beating

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the eighteen and one Patriots Giant super.

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Bowl eighteen and one giant loss.

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Anything to not make that number one. I'm happy with.

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I am too too well, Mark cubes Cube, whatever you

1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 1>want me, whatever, whatever you want me to call you,

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>just don't call me late for dinner. I appreciate you

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:37.480
<v Speaker 1>coming on. This is awesome. It's great to have a conversation.

1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Anything for me. Let me know, win bet, win bet

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:45.919
<v Speaker 1>and pH water and then we have one more thing,

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one more thing. I was actually, you know, I know

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you're an owner of a National Basketball Association team. I

1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was hit up by a team in Jerusalem, Israel. They

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 1>want me to be come an owner. Oh yeah, you

1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>got any words of wisdom for a potential owner of

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a professional basketball team in Israel?

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Do they make any money? There's your answers,

1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 3>there's your answer, unless you want to go. I mean

1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 3>it's fun to be able to say, you know, I

1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 3>own this team and you know, go over there and

1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.160
<v Speaker 3>hang out and for a little bit. Yeah, it'd be fun.

1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:26.800
<v Speaker 3>It depends how much money they want from you.

1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's perfect. Oh and please oh yeah.

1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:36.040
<v Speaker 3>So anybody looking to save money on their medications go

1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to costplus Drugs dot com fully transparent pricing. You go in,

1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:42.680
<v Speaker 3>put the name of the medication, and we'll show you

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:46.160
<v Speaker 3>our cost, our markup of fifteen percent, our shipping and

1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.200
<v Speaker 3>pharmacy fees, and ninety nine point nine nine percent of

1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the time, we're gonna save you a lot of money.

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:55.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot a lot. So, like, you know, we're talking

1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 1>about people that are in need of these drugs.

1:01:57.600 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, everybody's got something right, So like guys my age,

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:03.800
<v Speaker 3>they're all looking for like generic sialis. Yeah, and I

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:05.800
<v Speaker 3>don't I have n't checked my price, but you know,

1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:09.000
<v Speaker 3>my friends tell me that you can get like ninety

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:13.920
<v Speaker 3>generic five milligram cialis for eight bucks plus shipping.

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:16.200
<v Speaker 1>What does that do? I don't know.

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:17.720
<v Speaker 3>They just tell me that it's useful.

1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of that kind of stuff for our

1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:22.240
<v Speaker 1>women listeners.

1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:24.160
<v Speaker 3>But they tell me they like put it right next

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:27.760
<v Speaker 3>to their bed like Eminem's and it's beneficial. I don't know.

1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Maybe their wives put it there, I don't know, or girlfriends,

1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.000
<v Speaker 3>happy wife, happy life always.

1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Mark, you got it. Well, that was pretty pretty cool.

1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Our first owner, a billionaire own I know what a

1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>cool guy rolled.

1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Up just chilling by himself, by.

1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Himself, no entourage, no handlers.

1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:49.720
<v Speaker 1>What a guy, billionaire just rolling up by himself nothing.

1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:50.680
<v Speaker 2>That was so cool.

1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Sweatsuit chilling. I'm picking. I don't care, I just care.

1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 1>He just he just he just got that. What's the

1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:00.360
<v Speaker 1>cheapest top ten business school?

1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going there, Indiana, sign me up.

1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And sign me up. That's he was a cool dude,

1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>cool guy. The Chiloopa story was.

1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Amazing, causing mayhem for Chiloopa's.

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Patriots ever do something like that, like a Papa Gino's

1:03:12.360 --> 1:03:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or something, you get a sliceos.

1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember off top. We gotta do some digging

1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:19.000
<v Speaker 2>on that one, but I remember that.

1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that our pizza for a while was a Papa Gino?

1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. They may have changed it though

1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:25.720
<v Speaker 1>they used to be in the stadium.

1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:28.800
<v Speaker 2>No, wouldn't our guy, Our guy, Sammy Biggers was in

1:03:28.880 --> 1:03:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Papa Gino's commercials for a little while advertisements, Yes, Sam,

1:03:33.120 --> 1:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Sam Biggers.

1:03:34.120 --> 1:03:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Oh D'Angelo sorry DiAngelo Sandwich. I always drove by

1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:48.880
<v Speaker 1>one and never got it. Thought about it though. I

1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:53.200
<v Speaker 1>feel that, you know, I feel that. Can we talk

1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:54.480
<v Speaker 1>about our scoring system?

1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for today's post game segment, post interview segment, we're

1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:03.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna take a little breather and revisit the scoring segment,

1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>sort of have a a state of the Union. Come

1:04:06.040 --> 1:04:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to Jesus if you will, on the way we've been

1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:11.920
<v Speaker 2>scoring these games. Because we talk about him with all

1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the guests and they can see the rankings and it's

1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.080
<v Speaker 2>they're all over the board, all over them.

1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's Mark came in and Brick is

1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:21.000
<v Speaker 1>our integrity.

1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Mark came in and was given tens all over and

1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:23.600
<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna argue with Mark, Like.

1:04:23.680 --> 1:04:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, argue Mark.

1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:26.440
<v Speaker 2>He can't argue with Mark cuban in. I mean, no

1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>matter what house you're in, he's in our house. But

1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:32.680
<v Speaker 2>we'll let him cook. But that means we gotta take

1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a little step back every now and again. Look at

1:04:35.000 --> 1:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>some of these.

1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:40.800
<v Speaker 1>He just cooks and he leaves. Who's fucking doing the dishes?

1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:41.120
<v Speaker 1>We are?

1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>We are putting your game number one overall over the

1:04:44.520 --> 1:04:48.480
<v Speaker 2>brand ski in Peterson. Come on, man, I think we're

1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:51.760
<v Speaker 2>in and within this number one number one that put

1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:52.480
<v Speaker 2>it out smart.

1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:55.560
<v Speaker 1>See that tells me he's a marketing guy because he

1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:58.439
<v Speaker 1>knows how big games with names is and he wants

1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:00.240
<v Speaker 1>us right at the top. So every time we to

1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:03.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about his team, every place's just doing chess when

1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we're doing I'm playing like over checkers.

1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a part of me is over here happy

1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:14.200
<v Speaker 2>like oh fucking eighteen one gets dethroned, but now it's like,

1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:18.920
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, twenty eleven finals, Dirk like the dirty

1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:22.400
<v Speaker 2>dirty dirt getting one that's so whack and and Kyler,

1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I think who who we know is is all over

1:05:25.320 --> 1:05:28.160
<v Speaker 2>these and is calculating and running the show over here

1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:32.000
<v Speaker 2>like this. This is a stuck in Kyler's crawl, Like

1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:36.120
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't believe game play looking through this list.

1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:41.840
<v Speaker 8>Ten I'm beside myself and I won't be silenced any longer.

1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:46.280
<v Speaker 8>This segment needs a hard look at the mirror, just

1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:48.320
<v Speaker 8>like just look at this list the Iron Man match.

1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:49.080
<v Speaker 3>These are scripted.

1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.160
<v Speaker 1>This is a fake situation. It's not scripted.

1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I know, we love the ww it's not scripted.

1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:56.280
<v Speaker 8>Michael's is the best, but that's better than the nineteen

1:05:56.320 --> 1:05:58.320
<v Speaker 8>ninety nine Women's World Cup or the twenty eight and

1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:00.880
<v Speaker 8>three Patriots Falcons super are you are?

1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:01.560
<v Speaker 3>We are?

1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:05.480
<v Speaker 8>We just gonna stand idly by and like just stand

1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:07.560
<v Speaker 8>by this list. And I don't I don't have any answers.

1:06:07.560 --> 1:06:10.000
<v Speaker 8>I just can see the problem. So maybe we need

1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:15.640
<v Speaker 8>to like not cho and then like, also, okay, Pro

1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:18.520
<v Speaker 8>Bowl at the end that I think that's the best

1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:20.880
<v Speaker 8>ranking we have. The Pro Bowl is at the very end.

1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.520
<v Speaker 8>That's fine, But like, what.

1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Do how it stars?

1:06:25.800 --> 1:06:28.520
<v Speaker 8>We've got We've got the Titans and Rams, Super Bowl?

1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:32.120
<v Speaker 8>What is that thirty thirty four that with Kurt Warner

1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:35.479
<v Speaker 8>that's over the statue of Liberty Game, which is probably

1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:37.240
<v Speaker 8>the greatest game of all time. I'll stand on the

1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:37.720
<v Speaker 8>table for.

1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That statue of Liberty Game. Zimbranski, Zibranski greatest game. It

1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was an exciting game. So was that the year after

1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the USC Texas or before.

1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:54.640
<v Speaker 8>After USC is two thousand and five. That this game

1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:56.760
<v Speaker 8>is two thousand and seven, So two years after, two years.

1:06:56.640 --> 1:06:59.800
<v Speaker 1>After, because that's when Boise State they were playing. Maybe

1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:02.439
<v Speaker 1>they were they were doing. Those are some fun Bowl games,

1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:05.440
<v Speaker 1>those that those that five years that so fun. I

1:07:05.480 --> 1:07:08.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I think it's because I played in those years.

1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:09.560
<v Speaker 8>I mean I was in college in those years too,

1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:10.680
<v Speaker 8>So it does have extra value.

1:07:10.680 --> 1:07:12.920
<v Speaker 1>But with that USC game, we gotta get, we gotta do.

1:07:13.160 --> 1:07:16.120
<v Speaker 1>We haven't done that yet. It's in the mix liners.

1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all we gotta do is bring a bag

1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of Wendy's in. He'll come in. See him on all

1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the goddamn commercials. Come on, Wendy.

1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:25.360
<v Speaker 8>What can we do to make this segment productive?

1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Like? What are some soft square patties because you cut corners?

1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I think Kyler raises a good point and in wanting

1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to put in a little bit of a system, see

1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I think last year or In our past episodes, we

1:07:41.760 --> 1:07:44.800
<v Speaker 2>would wait until the guest was gone. Now the guest

1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:47.080
<v Speaker 2>is here. We were being what I'm trying to say,

1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:49.360
<v Speaker 2>we're being very hospitable.

1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there he is.

1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And this hospitality is leading to a little bit of

1:07:56.160 --> 1:07:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a downfall in the scoring system, in the integrity of it.

1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I think because they are.

1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:02.720
<v Speaker 1>It's gone.

1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a joke. I mean, I don't harp

1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:08.720
<v Speaker 2>too much on it because I like the stories, like

1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:11.560
<v Speaker 2>the friendships we make, and I like the memories we

1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:13.960
<v Speaker 2>get to unearth on this show. I don't I don't

1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:14.600
<v Speaker 2>worry about.

1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Numbers, but.

1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:17.559
<v Speaker 3>We do gotta.

1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It is a it's a fundamental.

1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Part it is. So I don't know. So here's my solution.

1:08:23.720 --> 1:08:24.240
<v Speaker 1>What do we do?

1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:26.640
<v Speaker 8>So we we have a hotline. Now, we've got a

1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:28.720
<v Speaker 8>phone you can call in. It's not live, but we've

1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.840
<v Speaker 8>got a voice message four two four two nine one

1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:33.120
<v Speaker 8>two two nine zero.

1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:39.479
<v Speaker 8>If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, leave a message,

1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:42.400
<v Speaker 8>keep it under a minute. Leave some message, Leave leave

1:08:42.439 --> 1:08:45.040
<v Speaker 8>some ideas. I think we're open to hearing. I mean,

1:08:45.080 --> 1:08:47.160
<v Speaker 8>maybe we just do an episode where no guests and

1:08:47.200 --> 1:08:50.280
<v Speaker 8>we just take a cold shower. Look at this list

1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:54.439
<v Speaker 8>and maybe rescore some games, or maybe we know who

1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:56.320
<v Speaker 8>we are and maybe we we we change some stuff.

1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.400
<v Speaker 8>But I'm I think let's have the best idea when here,

1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:01.439
<v Speaker 8>let's see what the fans have to say.

1:09:01.560 --> 1:09:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we bring up a fan a fan episode

1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:08.840
<v Speaker 1>episode Real Scorrologist.

1:09:09.200 --> 1:09:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go through this thing line by line, do a

1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:13.400
<v Speaker 2>little audit, crack open the books.

1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of like the ol I R S. Yeah,

1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna hire fifty thousand more. So we're

1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:23.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna do guys, you're gonna come in. We're coming for

1:09:25.720 --> 1:09:27.840
<v Speaker 1>justice on this case.

1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:32.000
<v Speaker 2>No stone left unturned and you can leave your message

1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:36.120
<v Speaker 2>of under one minute at four two four two nine

1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:38.120
<v Speaker 2>one two nine zero.

1:09:39.160 --> 1:09:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was another great episode of Games with names

1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of Mark Cuban. Hell yeah, man, that's pretty cool to

1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.320
<v Speaker 1>have Mark Cuban in our our clubhouse. Man.

1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like in the team issued sweats.

1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:55.920
<v Speaker 1>What a beast team issue saves his money?

1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I like it smart.

1:09:56.920 --> 1:09:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We're spending all that money, you know, where does he

1:09:59.000 --> 1:09:59.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it?

1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:00.280
<v Speaker 2>You better us?

1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Episode?

1:10:00.920 --> 1:10:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Geez?

1:10:01.280 --> 1:10:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to get some for the wall. Remember, guys,

1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:09.040
<v Speaker 1>follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram x TikTok and Snapchat.

1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:13.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week, guys. Games with Names is

1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.