Speaker 1: Today we have a very special guest. We all know
Speaker 1: him in Shark Tank. So that legendary entrepreneur Mark.
Speaker 2: Cuban, Mark Cuban, Mark Cuban, tell I'm like to get
Speaker 2: your crodic out.
Speaker 1: He was the bad boy of the owners back in
Speaker 1: the day, and now you've become the model citizen of
Speaker 1: the owner.
Speaker 3: No, hell no, no, they just don't find me over
Speaker 3: it anymore.
Speaker 1: House for three It now tell us about this twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: Finals Game six in Miami.
Speaker 1: In Miami, the Heatles.
Speaker 3: Everybody hated them. You know, from an owner's perspective, I'm
Speaker 3: just terrified the whole day. Your emotions are just all over.
Speaker 1: The map, and you're not in control, no control whatsoever.
Speaker 3: My thing was, Okay, if I take a sip of
Speaker 3: the diet coke at the right moment, we'll score. And
Speaker 3: if I take my diet coke and put it down
Speaker 3: the exact right spot, we'll get a stop.
Speaker 1: There is no life.
Speaker 4: I would just give the guy a hundred bucks to say,
Speaker 4: just keep him.
Speaker 1: You've heard millions of pitches you were in on the
Speaker 1: Lebron sweepsteak. What was your pitch games with names is
Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Radio Welcome to Games with Names,
Speaker 1: presented by win Bet. On today's episode, we're talking Game
Speaker 1: six of the twenty eleven NBA Finals with Maverick's owner
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban. We promised not to pitch him anything. I
Speaker 1: don't think we did, did we, Jack?
Speaker 2: I think we might be the only people in America
Speaker 2: to talk.
Speaker 1: With if I had pitch. But we got into his pitch.
Speaker 2: Oh we had pitches in the holster though. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: had them eaters.
Speaker 1: We were ready to just like a gun slinger.
Speaker 2: We'll save those for the tank.
Speaker 1: We dive into him as an NFL owner or NBA owner,
Speaker 1: and his NFL.
Speaker 2: Thought is try his attempts.
Speaker 1: I mean, the pig gets fat. What does he say?
Speaker 1: Was that? Yes? I believe he did. They also get
Speaker 1: into who's the greater euro Luca Dirk, Joe Kooker. We
Speaker 1: we talk about me potentially buying a pro basketball team.
Speaker 1: I wanted to join, you know, I want to I
Speaker 1: want to join him.
Speaker 2: He had some some wise words of advice.
Speaker 1: He did he did. We also get into a wild
Speaker 1: scoring segment presented by wind Bet. You know, we also
Speaker 1: getting fined by the nfor he got fined by the league.
Speaker 1: Tons of times, tons of times. Then now he's like
Speaker 1: the stand up owner of the league, the rise or
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chiloopa brawl. Baby, it's a wild one.
Speaker 2: I I like crunt traps. I'm a crunch trap guy.
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Speaker 1: June twelfth, twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: American Airlines Arena Miami, Florida.
Speaker 1: The Big Three are looking for their first.
Speaker 3: Title, but Dirk and my MAVs have the plans.
Speaker 5: This is Game six ah the twoy eleven MBA Finals.
Speaker 1: Today we have a very special guest, legendary entrepreneur owner
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Mavericks. We all know him in Shark Tank.
Speaker 1: He was the bad boy of the owners back in
Speaker 1: the day. Like, that's what I remember early in my
Speaker 1: stages of watching you when you were first time owned,
Speaker 1: when you first became owner. Then now you've become like
Speaker 1: the model citizen of the No no, no no no.
Speaker 3: But you know, just don't find me over it is.
Speaker 1: They don't find you anymore. I just always remember you're
Speaker 1: getting fined all the time. Welcome to the show. This
Speaker 1: is Games with Names. We basically are on a mission
Speaker 1: to find the greatest games of all time. The Gog
Speaker 1: the greatest of all games. Everyone talks about the Goat,
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. This is a podcast where
Speaker 1: we go back and we get to have people that
Speaker 1: have experienced this game in some situation, some sort of scenario,
Speaker 1: you being the owner of the team, and we talked
Speaker 1: about the inside, you know, inside scoop of everything. So
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk about it now.
Speaker 1: I want to start off. You're from Pittsburgh, PA. I'm
Speaker 1: a football guy. Yeah, that's a football town.
Speaker 3: Sure is Western Pa.
Speaker 1: Western Pa.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I went to Kent State, so I grew up with
Speaker 1: I went to school with all these Western Pa because
Speaker 1: Kent State's not far from not far like two hours. Now.
Speaker 1: You're a huge Steelers fan.
Speaker 3: Yep, still am hardcore.
Speaker 1: And then big basketball fan as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was hard to wint Pittsburgh. But definitely growing
Speaker 3: up for sure, I'm just you know, sports fan my
Speaker 3: entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, how did you get to Indiana?
Speaker 3: So my path was kind of backass halfwards. When I
Speaker 3: was in high school, they wouldn't let me take a
Speaker 3: business class when I was a junior, So I took
Speaker 3: a class at the University of Pittsburgh night and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: this was easy, I can do that. And so I
Speaker 3: didn't go back for my senior year. I literally dropped
Speaker 3: out of high school went to the University of Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: my senior year, but they didn't have a business school either.
Speaker 3: I just like, I thought it was cool that, you know,
Speaker 3: I was living on campus and going back to my
Speaker 3: high school prom and you know, be fun like that.
Speaker 3: And then I said, Okay, I gotta get a little
Speaker 3: bit serious. So ill thisted the top ten business schools
Speaker 3: and I checked out the cheapest one and it was Indiana. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason that was yeah, funny to hear it come
Speaker 1: out of your mouth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'd never set foot on campus, hadn't
Speaker 3: seen it at all. All I knew about it was
Speaker 3: that I could afford it, had a great business school.
Speaker 3: And there was a book way back then that was
Speaker 3: like the Insiders Guard Guide to College and it said
Speaker 3: it was one of the best party in campuses in
Speaker 3: the country. I'm like, let's go.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I've heard that too. And you're Jewish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Jews that go to Indiana that
Speaker 1: I know, like five or six Jewish families that went into.
Speaker 3: That, I know the Rosenbergs. But but yeah, like when
Speaker 3: I got there, there were all the Jewish. All the
Speaker 3: Jews were like either in Jewish fraternity or Jewish art
Speaker 3: and I wasn't in either. And I mean literally no, Lie.
Speaker 3: I remember meeting some girl that I thought was cute
Speaker 3: going to in Foster Quad, going to the Little cafeteria
Speaker 3: there to get a bagel, and she's I've never had
Speaker 3: a bagel before, and I'm like really, She goes, are
Speaker 3: you Jewish? I'm like yeah, she goes, like where I
Speaker 3: grew up in Indiana, we thought you was had like
Speaker 3: horns coming out of their head. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: things that went through my mind about horns, but I
Speaker 3: didn't say them. But yeah, it was a unique experience
Speaker 3: going on you. But you know, that was my freshman
Speaker 3: year and it was a great experience.
Speaker 1: You're invested in a bunch of businesses. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: highly noted that you've tried to buy other organizations baseball teams, soccer,
Speaker 1: no soccer, A lot of baseball teams that I've heard just.
Speaker 3: Too, the Rangers and the Pirates, oh three in the Cubs.
Speaker 1: And then the Panthers. Didn't you try to take a
Speaker 1: stab at the Panthers in the NFL?
Speaker 3: A little no, No, because I can never really afford
Speaker 3: the NFL. You got to be all in and they
Speaker 3: don't come up for sale a whole lot.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: And so there was a chance I had an opportunity
Speaker 3: to buy into the Steelers. A minority owner contacted me
Speaker 3: about selling and I just didn't want to be a
Speaker 3: minority owner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 3: Tepper bought the Panthers, right, And I guess they did
Speaker 3: reach out to me at some point, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: into it. But you talk about, you know, Jews in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I didn't even i'd met David. I didn't realize until
Speaker 3: after the fact when somebody sent me a picture. I
Speaker 3: went to a sweet sixteen party for a girl I
Speaker 3: had a crush on, had no chance with, and they
Speaker 3: sent me a picture saying, that guy, right there is
Speaker 3: David Tepper and there's me and we were both sixteen
Speaker 3: years old. Wow. Yeah, so probably both chasing the same
Speaker 3: girl and looking at the picture of him looking at
Speaker 3: the picture of me, neither of us had a chance.
Speaker 1: Now, NFL is still on a decline, you know.
Speaker 3: I said that, and people are like, still rip me
Speaker 3: on it. But you know, I still firmly believe that
Speaker 3: when you try to ask for too much, pigs get fat,
Speaker 3: hogs get slaughtered, that that it backfires. And it hasn't
Speaker 3: happened yet. And I think I think my timeline got
Speaker 3: pushed off some because of gambling, because that kind of
Speaker 3: just propelled everything, you know, But the TV and media
Speaker 3: industry is changing a lot, and it's going to be
Speaker 3: really interesting to see how it impacts all professional sports,
Speaker 3: including the FBA, you know, but the NFL dominates. The
Speaker 3: NFL is basically keeping TV alive, and so it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because you made your money in that broadcast
Speaker 1: streaming streaming, Yeah, we started the first, that's yeah. Is
Speaker 1: it going to come to a point now where like
Speaker 1: the Mavericks are going to have you guys are going
Speaker 1: to start streaming your own games and you know, forget
Speaker 1: the networks, forget it because that's where it's essentially going.
Speaker 3: Well, there's two things there, right, So like we started
Speaker 3: Todd Wagner and I started an EU, Buddy started Audio
Speaker 3: netback in nineteen ninety five, which was the first streaming company,
Speaker 3: which sticking back has been twenty eight years. That's insane.
Speaker 3: But where you know now things are everything streaming, everything's digital, right,
Speaker 3: The question is where's the money? And the hard part
Speaker 3: is that with regular linear television, like when when you
Speaker 3: have your cable or your satellite, direct TV chart or
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, you don't switch every month, right,
Speaker 3: But with streaming, whether it's Netflix, Peacock, Hulu, whatever. You
Speaker 3: just click one button and you can check in and
Speaker 3: check out every month, right, And that's going to have
Speaker 3: a big impact that I think people are underestimating now.
Speaker 3: You know, at the same time, the football's football and
Speaker 3: it's on you know, over the air TV, and I
Speaker 3: think that's a big advantage.
Speaker 1: But the ticket just went to YouTube TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's gonna be really interesting to see.
Speaker 1: What It's going to be very interesting, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what kept direct TV alive was having
Speaker 1: the exactly exactly. Now they don't have the ticket, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna die.
Speaker 3: You know, and it's really convenience and you know, it's
Speaker 3: a hassle to switch and for you know, some you
Speaker 3: get and it's not cheap, you know, no matter which
Speaker 3: platform it's on, and so you got to be able
Speaker 3: to afford it. And that that's really gonna make it
Speaker 3: really interesting. But you know, YouTube zonned by Google. Google's
Speaker 3: got a lot of money and they can adapt. If
Speaker 3: they don't get the subs that they need, we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 1: Amazon two Amazon two now tell us about this game
Speaker 1: six twenty eleven, Miami Heat versus you.
Speaker 3: Know, the Dallas game, six man. It was three two
Speaker 3: MAVs in Miami.
Speaker 6: In Miami, and there's like this NBA thing where for
Speaker 6: a closeout game in the finals, and some teams do
Speaker 6: it other rounds, and I'm curious if you guys do
Speaker 6: it in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Guys were black because funeral? Do they do that in
Speaker 3: the NFL?
Speaker 1: I always love to wear black pregame suits. Uh huh,
Speaker 1: just like that Johnny Cash kind of you know that field, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the killer, yeah, killer, here to go to a funeral
Speaker 1: and this is not a fun thing, yep. We're here
Speaker 1: to put people away, put.
Speaker 3: People away, to bury them, right.
Speaker 1: To bury them.
Speaker 3: And that was the attitude. And I just have you know,
Speaker 3: getting off the bus, just the image of all the
Speaker 3: guys right walking into black suits, just got that look
Speaker 3: right where this is like, now's the chance, right, you
Speaker 3: know we if we lose, we still have one more game,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to give them another chance, right
Speaker 3: and now as possible, and just that focus and that fire.
Speaker 3: It was fun. I mean, and you know, from an
Speaker 3: owner's perspective, I'm just terrified the whole game, right, you know,
Speaker 3: people think, oh it's so exciting, it's fun, it's Nerve
Speaker 3: wracking is the furthest thing from fun ever, because every possession, everything,
Speaker 3: you're just your emotions are just.
Speaker 1: All over the map and you're not in control.
Speaker 3: No control whatsoever.
Speaker 1: That's the worst thing. It's kind of like when you're
Speaker 1: in or now that I'm watching, I still support my team.
Speaker 1: You know, you sit and you watch and you're like,
Speaker 1: it's nerve wracking because you can't do it.
Speaker 3: It's nothing I can do right, it's all and your
Speaker 3: body reacts like you're still playing or playing right, and
Speaker 3: you're you know, not that I played NBA, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's still just basketball right in my body. You know,
Speaker 3: it's it's insane your mind and you're looking for things
Speaker 3: and if they don't happen, you freak out. And when
Speaker 3: it works, you freak out. And yeah, it's just such
Speaker 3: an emotional roller coaster from the night before at least
Speaker 3: till till when the game starts.
Speaker 1: It's crazy for me because basketball and baseball and hockey
Speaker 1: and these teams that you guys gotta go out win
Speaker 1: a series, you know, so like there's such an emotional
Speaker 1: roller coaster that it's it's longer than an NFL one.
Speaker 1: Brutal ours is like a quarter. I know that it's
Speaker 1: the next series. You gotta you gotta go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in the NBA they say every game is
Speaker 3: a series. When you win a game, you feel like
Speaker 3: you're never going to lose again, and when you lose
Speaker 3: a game, you feel like you're never going to win.
Speaker 3: It's that that brutal, because you know there's it's a
Speaker 3: game of adjustments, not just in game, but between games,
Speaker 3: especially because you have at least a day off and
Speaker 3: nobody's sleep and everybody's working on trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what you did right, what you did wrong, and you know,
Speaker 3: how do you how do you win that next game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Tell us a story about you buying
Speaker 1: the MAVs.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we sold broadcast dot Com and I was
Speaker 3: living in Dallas and I was a season ticket holder
Speaker 3: and we sucked.
Speaker 1: No, wait, how did you get to Dallas? First? I
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off. You're from Pittsburgh. Go to Indiana.
Speaker 1: And then I heard you were like busting tables or
Speaker 1: you're you're owning a bar in Texas or something.
Speaker 3: I owned a bar in Bloomington and we got shut
Speaker 3: down from underage drinking. And thank god because I was.
Speaker 3: I hadn't even turned twenty one when we started at Cheesy,
Speaker 3: and then obviously I had friends that I was letting in.
Speaker 3: I didn't care. CB. We had a radio where we
Speaker 3: would listen in a scanner, please scanner, and I would
Speaker 3: sit behind the bar or sit upstairs and I would
Speaker 3: listen to the scanner and just like listen for the
Speaker 3: cops to come. And then they found out that I
Speaker 3: got it, and they playned a raid and they raided
Speaker 3: my ass. But that was probably a good thing.
Speaker 1: Entrepreneurials bad boy. Yeah that was day one.
Speaker 3: Twenty one and let's go. But yeah, so from there,
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, time to go. And a bunch of
Speaker 3: my friends had moved to Dallas, and I'm calling them
Speaker 3: on the phone and they're like, you gotta come down.
Speaker 3: You got to come down. The weather's great. I mean
Speaker 3: I growing up Pittsburgh and Bloomington where the weather sucks, right,
Speaker 3: the weather's great. The economy is pretty decent, because back
Speaker 3: then in the early eighties, like it was like the
Speaker 3: Great Recession, where you know, unemployment was like ten to
Speaker 3: eleven percent or worse depending where you were, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: where can I get a job, and they're like, the
Speaker 3: economy's good, the weather's good, the women are hot. I'm
Speaker 3: like coming. And so I got my Fiat X one
Speaker 3: nine nineteen seventy seven, Fiat X one nine that had
Speaker 3: a hole on the floorboard, and then just blow through
Speaker 3: oil and had enough money. I think I had sixty
Speaker 3: bucks where I could get gas and oil and make
Speaker 3: it to my buddy's apartment in the village, which was
Speaker 3: the largest apartment complex in the country at the time,
Speaker 3: and there were five guys already there. They're like, just
Speaker 3: stay on the floor as long as you need to.
Speaker 3: So I did. I didn't have a bed, didn't have
Speaker 3: a closet, didn't have a drawer. I just had a pile.
Speaker 1: Man. And then then that's the start of it.
Speaker 3: Everyone started.
Speaker 1: Everyone has those rags to riches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, everybody has an origin story.
Speaker 1: It's the best, it's the best. Let's just jump into
Speaker 1: your owner ownership stock. And I was around a great owner,
Speaker 1: mister Craft. Yeah, Robert's cool and uh, you know he
Speaker 1: was at the facility every day, was he he was.
Speaker 1: He was at every team meeting, he was in the meetings.
Speaker 1: You know, he was doing this thing. He had you know,
Speaker 1: craft enterprise in the area that we were at above
Speaker 1: our locker room, so he was always around. Were you
Speaker 1: that type of owner you were?
Speaker 3: I mean clearly more yeah at the beginningmore like when
Speaker 3: I first got there. I'm like forty one years old,
Speaker 3: I think, and I still hope like five times a
Speaker 3: week at that time, right, and so I just wanted
Speaker 3: to be anywhere where they're playing ball right that. But
Speaker 3: I also had to learn the business, so I would
Speaker 3: I would spend a lot of time there just trying
Speaker 3: to figure things out and trying to understand. I didn't
Speaker 3: come in with my own group. I kept everybody that
Speaker 3: was there for better or worse. And there were a
Speaker 3: couple of things that were the most important to me.
Speaker 3: One was connecting to the players, because I wanted to
Speaker 3: understand what made it work, because, you know, not being
Speaker 3: a higher level athlete, but just least someone who's been
Speaker 3: in the locker room. I understood that chemistry was everything,
Speaker 3: and if you didn't have you didn't have players that
Speaker 3: could play together or respected the organization, it wasn't going
Speaker 3: to work. And he gave me a chance to learn
Speaker 3: from guys like you know, not just Dirk, but Michael Finley,
Speaker 3: Steve Cedric Sabalis, Sean Rooks, Hubert Davis, guys that were
Speaker 3: on the roster that I was sitting just talk to him.
Speaker 3: I was sitting on the plane and just talked to him,
Speaker 3: and I would just learn and learn and learn. And
Speaker 3: then I, you know, dove in in terms of the
Speaker 3: business side, in terms of the front office side as well,
Speaker 3: where I remember sitting in meetings with our general manager
Speaker 3: and him talking about deals. I'm like, you just watch,
Speaker 3: I'll get it done. And he was like, that's typically
Speaker 3: not what happens owners. Just I'm like, let's just let
Speaker 3: me do my thing. And literally I was I was
Speaker 3: calling other general managers, you know, would you do this trade?
Speaker 3: Would you just do? I was loving life right. It
Speaker 3: was like a fantasy team for me. And I remember
Speaker 3: doing a trade with I forget the player's name, but
Speaker 3: it was a seven team trade and just packing all
Speaker 3: these pieces together and getting all these things to work,
Speaker 3: and that to me, that was just like heaven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I guess the other thing that that really
Speaker 3: got me started. When I got there, I was going
Speaker 3: through the numbers and we spent more on software support
Speaker 3: and PC training than we did on player development, and
Speaker 3: we had like four coaches, which was normal. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is ridiculous, right, these guys were paying them, you know,
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars and we do
Speaker 3: nothing to make them better. And so I'm like, go
Speaker 3: to all former MAVs who want to get back in
Speaker 3: the industry, because you know how it is, guys don't play,
Speaker 3: and he wants to get back in somewhere along the line,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hire them all. Pay them, like fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars is not to make money, but
Speaker 3: they're each going to have a guy that they do
Speaker 3: workouts for and do development for. And I got destroyed.
Speaker 3: Other owners were like, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 3: You change our costs pioneer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's now that everyone's everybody that's like, that's
Speaker 1: such a huge thing. The rookie symposiums and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys come from nothing. You dump a bunch of money
Speaker 1: in their lap and.
Speaker 3: Yeah all the time, and they don't know how to
Speaker 3: be pros pros right, and sport.
Speaker 1: Is younger at a nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 3: And barely went to school. When they went to school,
Speaker 3: yeah exactly. Yeah, were you guys for the most part
Speaker 3: three or four years.
Speaker 1: You have to do three, you have to do three. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so back then it was like there was no
Speaker 3: player development. Now we've got you know, we have interns
Speaker 3: that are there just to rebound. We've got you know,
Speaker 3: eight player development coaches. Whatever it is. It may even
Speaker 3: be more. Yeah, But back then they were like, you're
Speaker 3: an idiot, you're ruining the game. Other owners were yelling
Speaker 3: at me.
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it anything different, That's how it
Speaker 1: always is. And then you got to.
Speaker 3: Try to get an edge. Anything you can do to
Speaker 3: get an edge.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to twenty twelve, twenty eleven. Now, this
Speaker 1: is a segment where we like to talk about pop culture.
Speaker 1: What was going on in that time. And number one
Speaker 1: movie Super eight? Did you see it?
Speaker 3: I saw that movie?
Speaker 1: That was That was JJ Abrams.
Speaker 3: That was yeah. That was the one with Nicholas Cage
Speaker 3: right where he was oh no, no, Super eight, the
Speaker 3: one where it's like give them movies. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The hype around it for me was so much
Speaker 1: bigger than what I thought it was. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was well done.
Speaker 3: But it was a good movie.
Speaker 1: It was a good movie. Yeah, Whitey Bulgery know this
Speaker 1: is we we have a lot of Boston people. He
Speaker 1: was arrested right down the street here in Santa Was
Speaker 1: that like twelve years ago. It's that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, Rolling in the Deep, you know,
Speaker 3: that was a great song. It was a song. And yeah,
Speaker 3: Dell and now she's dating Rich from Clutch, right, and
Speaker 3: so it's just like a small connection.
Speaker 1: Obviously Kyrie Kyrie number one. Well you guys have Kyrie
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Kyrie.
Speaker 1: You love him.
Speaker 3: He's a good dude.
Speaker 1: I spent some time with them. So when I think
Speaker 1: I was suspended, I got suspended. I was on vacation.
Speaker 1: The Celtics let me come into their organization and and
Speaker 1: work with them. That's cool, just to keep a routine.
Speaker 1: And uh I sat down with Kyrie a bunch. We
Speaker 1: played ping pong and we just talk nothing about sports,
Speaker 1: nothing about st That's who he is, you know, and
Speaker 1: he just ask random questions and you know, I don't
Speaker 1: really know him, but like I he was like a
Speaker 1: really interesting guy.
Speaker 3: He really likes to get deep on something deep, really deep, right,
Speaker 3: Like he wants basketball is his profession, but he wants
Speaker 3: to be a more well rounded human, right, and he
Speaker 3: wants to connect to people on a human level, which
Speaker 3: is why I like Kyrie. But that's not easy for
Speaker 3: everybody to accept or understand.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's it's tough because last few
Speaker 1: years he's been with a bunch of teams and it's
Speaker 1: hard for But you know.
Speaker 3: What it's like when you look at athletes from the outside,
Speaker 3: you don't really know until you know them exactly. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of perceptions, a lot of misperceptions. But
Speaker 3: you know, when before we made the trade, you know
Speaker 3: I would I went back and I watch after games
Speaker 3: and other players around the league when they played him,
Speaker 3: will come up and give him a big hug, right,
Speaker 3: Not let's just exchange jerseys, you know, pat him on
Speaker 3: the back, pat him on the head. It's just like
Speaker 3: no larger than larger than life. They connect to him.
Speaker 3: They love the guy, and that was a big difference maker.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you talk to him, like because
Speaker 3: he is so deep, it's not the typical conversation you're
Speaker 3: gonna have with an athlete.
Speaker 1: No, it could be something about the moon. It could
Speaker 1: be something literally about like the ocean.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, and he's really big into his
Speaker 3: genealogy and so his Lakota roots and all these things,
Speaker 3: which I find fascinating. Yeah right, I told him this,
Speaker 3: he goes, I told him, you remind me of my mom.
Speaker 3: My mom was the same way. So it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What was life like for Mark Cuban in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: Well, pre June twelfth or post June twelfth, let's go
Speaker 3: pre pre It was, you know, getting to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I have the best life in the world.
Speaker 3: There's just just no way fans or butts about it.
Speaker 3: My kids are healthy, so that wall was good. But
Speaker 3: you know, the sports side of things, you get to
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and we had made it past the first
Speaker 3: round in a while, and there was some radio guys
Speaker 3: that were calling us to one and done boys, and
Speaker 3: so getting past.
Speaker 1: That, well the year before was that the Warriors.
Speaker 3: No, that was a couple of years ago, a couple
Speaker 3: of years yeah, where we were sixty seven and fifteen
Speaker 3: the last time guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't. That was crazy.
Speaker 3: It was my shirt though, right, Yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I like your shirt.
Speaker 1: I like your shirt too, Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know, but uh, how's it changed since after te
Speaker 7: Georgia was great because you know, I never paid for
Speaker 7: a meal.
Speaker 3: I mean because we beat the dreaded heat right, the Heatles.
Speaker 3: Everybody hated them, and it was so different because, like
Speaker 3: I remember, right after we won, I had to go
Speaker 3: to New York for something I already had scheduled. On
Speaker 3: the tarmac, I got off the plane and people just
Speaker 3: started clapping. We all we went to a restaurant for
Speaker 3: an event and in New York and people just go
Speaker 3: clapping for me everywhere I went, and even in the
Speaker 3: Board of Governor's meeting with other owners. When I came
Speaker 3: into the next meeting, they started clapping, which was like insane.
Speaker 3: That just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like the second super big team
Speaker 1: big three thing going on everyone. You know, the Celtics
Speaker 1: kind of got away with it because those guys were
Speaker 1: a little older in their career. They weren't necessarily in
Speaker 1: the prime like right, these three.
Speaker 3: No, it was going to be not one, not two,
Speaker 3: not three.
Speaker 1: And then the whole announcement with Lebron like that exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Plus Danny traded for those guys and he made those movies.
Speaker 3: These guys all that felt like left.
Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly now you're in Shark Tank. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: heard millions of pitches, millions. You were in on the
Speaker 1: Lebron sweepstake, tried to be what was the pitch? I
Speaker 1: want to hear this legendary pitch A man that has
Speaker 1: heard so many pitches in his life, you know, what
Speaker 1: was your pitch?
Speaker 3: We didn't get a chance really to sit down and
Speaker 3: pitch and pitch him, so I had to go through
Speaker 3: different channels, right through Maverick and other people I knew.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 1: Basically perfect guy to go through, by the way, with
Speaker 1: the Mavericks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Maverick Mavericks, right, Maverick Carter, And it was basically
Speaker 3: this will be your town and you and Dirk together
Speaker 3: that compliment each other, with Jason Kidd as a point guard.
Speaker 3: But we didn't really, we never had to sit down
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Fanny, Yeah, and that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: We even got a little message from Jerry, you know,
Speaker 3: a little video from Jerry and Tony Romo and all
Speaker 3: these guys, and yeah, it didn't work, but it worked.
Speaker 1: It worked. It worked and.
Speaker 3: I made it all the sweeter. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: know a story about that. During that series, we were
Speaker 3: down in last game one, were down in Game two
Speaker 3: at halftime in Miami, and at that time to go
Speaker 3: off the court, you walk on the court and you
Speaker 3: make a left to go back to the locker room,
Speaker 3: and pat Riley sat right there, was standing right there,
Speaker 3: and he goes, we got you, Mark, We're too long,
Speaker 3: too fast, and damn. Right after he says that we
Speaker 3: come back in the second half and when and when?
Speaker 1: So that was kind of is that an intimidation in
Speaker 1: factor by old path?
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if he timidates me.
Speaker 1: I know, but that's the kind of good is ARMANI suit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was arrogant, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: I like little fire.
Speaker 3: Oh no, there's always fire going I diden.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up, but like, what
Speaker 1: do people call you Mark?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 1: Mark?
Speaker 3: Cubes cuban Yeah, cubes Mark whatever que yeah just no,
Speaker 3: No one called me cube just cubes, yeah, Cuban cubes cues.
Speaker 1: On this day in twenty twelve, twenty eleven, we also
Speaker 1: go back on the social you were This will sound weird,
Speaker 1: I'm lying in bed with the trophy next to me.
Speaker 1: Dreams do Dreams Come True with the hashtag yep legendary
Speaker 1: tweet legendary look at mana. He was such a stud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, JJ is the Northeastern Eastern.
Speaker 1: Mine was eat your eat my heart out. Maps are
Speaker 1: playing with hot fire cowabunga.
Speaker 7: Okay, good first half dirty.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling which he did heat up.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, because he was I remember in
Speaker 3: the locker room he was shaking his head. He was
Speaker 3: like two for eleven or something like that. I remember, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was shaking as everybody's like, Dirk, don't matter,
Speaker 3: don't matter. Come on, this is where you make. This
Speaker 3: is the part that counts because it was close and boom,
Speaker 3: that's dark man.
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Speaker 1: why don't you jump in and set the stage for I.
Speaker 2: Mean, we touched on a little bit of the narrative.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the super team, the heat year.
Speaker 2: Lebron Bosh d Wade. Lebron brings big Z down there
Speaker 2: with him. We got role players. You got Mike Miller,
Speaker 2: he got all those guys. He started a little slow
Speaker 2: eight and nine lost to the Celtics in theory there, right.
Speaker 3: So they were ten and ten playing us, and we
Speaker 3: beat them to make him ten to eleven. But that's
Speaker 3: the game where people thought it was gonna blow up
Speaker 3: because Lebron gave Spolstra the shoulder shrug, right, remember right,
Speaker 3: then I'll give you one other Miami Heat connection. So
Speaker 3: when I first bought the MAVs, I got contacted by
Speaker 3: Eric Spolstra's dad, who wrote one of the best marketing
Speaker 3: books ever, and asked me to write the forward. So yeah,
Speaker 3: so I I know it wasn't afford. It was a blurb,
Speaker 3: So I gave him a blurb for his book. The
Speaker 3: book was great. I was glad to do it. And
Speaker 3: then ten years later his son was coaching.
Speaker 2: He spose I mean, like, because I was a knock
Speaker 2: on Spoe at the time. I go, he's too young
Speaker 2: to coach these stars like pat Riley, all this stuff
Speaker 2: they're about.
Speaker 1: They were saying Pat was going to come out again, right.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they were saying. I mean, it supposed
Speaker 3: turned into just one of the rest. Yeah, is it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I know, he worked his way up from we were
Speaker 2: joking towel boy the video room to head coach Blake.
Speaker 2: Do you think staying with that team that long and
Speaker 2: building you know, heat culture is like part of what
Speaker 2: makes him so special.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's hard to stay with
Speaker 3: the team out It really really.
Speaker 1: Is, especially in basketball. Yeah, like even great coaches that
Speaker 1: win championships.
Speaker 3: You guys, especially recently, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because it's all it's a player's league.
Speaker 3: And the changes too, Like you brought the point about
Speaker 3: guys being in college for three years in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Now they're getting with the NBA. They're getting younger and younger,
Speaker 3: and social media is more impactful I think in basketball
Speaker 3: than it is in football. I mean, there's some great
Speaker 3: highlights for the NFL for high school and college players
Speaker 3: on social media, but in basketball, kids are getting highlighted
Speaker 3: when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, and that's just
Speaker 3: changed the whole mindset of kids coming in.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I was the first kid on social
Speaker 1: media in the locker room in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: were you really Yeah, like my generation, the guys above
Speaker 1: us were no clue. Everyone's before everyone and those Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so over the time, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: these kids are getting famous when they're twelve. And even
Speaker 1: in football, you see a little kid he does a
Speaker 1: backflip over a guy, right right, Yeah, and then he's
Speaker 1: got like a million views. These guys they come into
Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, thinking they've done things already before,
Speaker 1: they've done.
Speaker 3: Things what's even the last couple of years now with
Speaker 3: nil they're getting paid because of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to make that joke all the time
Speaker 1: that the Alabama and the Florida guys were taking pay
Speaker 1: cuts when they came to the NFL. Now it's legitimate
Speaker 1: and it's legit. It's crazy, but they were actually doing
Speaker 1: that as well then.
Speaker 3: No, I know obviously, I mean, yeah, the story is
Speaker 3: a legendary, right, it's just above board now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark in saying that like this is this is
Speaker 2: also sort of the first generation I feel like of
Speaker 2: rookies that have maybe second or third year, but like
Speaker 2: that have had their whole life on like the overtime
Speaker 2: afflication of that, Like, yeah, what do you see when
Speaker 2: these rookie I come in, like.
Speaker 3: You know, it's there's there's a good side. I'm actually
Speaker 3: positive about it, okay, Because one they've made some money,
Speaker 3: some nil money in high school, let alone college or
Speaker 3: through overtime a lead or you know, g legal eight.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing because they start to learn how
Speaker 3: to manage their money, so that's a positive. They don't
Speaker 3: just come to us with that too. They're used to
Speaker 3: being under a microscope, and they're used to being watched
Speaker 3: in cameras everywhere. Like back then, I had to worry
Speaker 3: about a call at two o'clock in the morning, you know,
Speaker 3: and you had your teammates, right, you know, all that
Speaker 3: stuff went down, and now I don't have to anymore.
Speaker 3: You know, guys they know those cameras everywhere, and if
Speaker 3: they're going to be stupid, they're careful stupid, whereas back
Speaker 3: then that just wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: It's the information era, you know, Like these guys are
Speaker 1: smarter now a lot back in the day, Like you'd
Speaker 1: have like five or six guys that ate steaks with
Speaker 1: their hands, not a forking knife. Like that doesn't happen now.
Speaker 1: You see, like your linebacker he's eating a filet mignon,
Speaker 1: like with perfect etiquette, perfect right, you know, I think
Speaker 1: he must have youtub it or something.
Speaker 3: Really like two thousand and nine, right before then, Ivan Johnson,
Speaker 3: who didn't end up making it with us. He played
Speaker 3: with the Hawks for a couple of years. The guy
Speaker 3: I called him Ivan Drago, but he had no idea
Speaker 3: who that was, and he would he literally would just
Speaker 3: for shits and giggles, beat the beat the hell out
Speaker 3: of people. And then he went to like Taiwan or
Speaker 3: the Philippines and play or Korea and just just destroyed
Speaker 3: somebody and was booted from all leagues forever. And I
Speaker 3: haven't heard from Ivan since. But yeah, it's you don't
Speaker 3: have those guys anymore than thugs.
Speaker 2: He was last playing in the Philippines in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Is that what it was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Ivan, Yeah, there you go, Ivan, Let's
Speaker 1: get over to the main event. The average Jackie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Mark, you might have to help me with
Speaker 2: this one. You know better than me. But I was
Speaker 2: going through watching this stuff like this team with all
Speaker 2: the guys, the Jason Terry's, the Deshaun. I forgot how
Speaker 2: good Deshaun Stevenson was in this series and that it
Speaker 2: was Oh my god. He was torturingate from saying the
Speaker 2: Jet Terry, I love.
Speaker 3: The Jet Jet Jet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just talked to him yesterday.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, he's with Is he with Arizona still? Longe
Speaker 2: utah utah Okay, that's right. And he was assistant but
Speaker 2: old veteran group yep. That was kind of the not
Speaker 2: coming into this yep, third seed in the West, kind
Speaker 2: of like everyone kind of said, flew under the radar.
Speaker 3: And we had a lot of injuries too. I mean,
Speaker 3: people don't realize Roddy bau Boah number three, he was
Speaker 3: like our young speed demon. He got hurt. Karan Butler,
Speaker 3: who's now with the heat, he got hurt. He was
Speaker 3: our number two score and we were literally like twenty
Speaker 3: nine and three after thirty. It was just insane or
Speaker 3: twenty nine and five something like that. How good we were.
Speaker 3: Then Roddy Koran get hurt and then Dirk gets hurt too,
Speaker 3: and we lost six in a row, and people were like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's over for these guys, it's over. But we got
Speaker 3: we went on this West coast road trip I'll never
Speaker 3: forget where we were just getting blown out by twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five points every single game. And it was after
Speaker 3: the All Star break if I remember right, and it
Speaker 3: was just like we were not like in high spirits
Speaker 3: at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how do you deal with that in in
Speaker 1: your sport? Because we you know, in football, we only
Speaker 1: have sixteen games, seventeen games. Now, we'd lose a game,
Speaker 1: we'd come in the building the next day and it
Speaker 1: was like a fucking funeral.
Speaker 3: Well it's still it's the same in the NBA. But
Speaker 3: if you guys have like you go on games once
Speaker 3: the next in the playoffs, it's definitely like that. But
Speaker 3: even during the regular season, like you get on the
Speaker 3: plane and it's it's a funeral, right, but then prett,
Speaker 3: next practice or you know, next game you got to go?
Speaker 3: Comes with leadership, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: And and speaking of leadership, what's your best Dirk story?
Speaker 3: Oh my god that I'm allowed to tell.
Speaker 1: We love whatever this is.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've you know, I've had a lot
Speaker 3: of fun with Dirk.
Speaker 1: You're going to Germany with them?
Speaker 3: No, I have not been to Germany with Dirk.
Speaker 1: Have not Octoberfest.
Speaker 3: He's invited me. Yeah, I did a october Fest with
Speaker 3: Dirk when his sister got married, but it was in
Speaker 3: the US. Dirk. So, okay, yeah, I'm gonna tell I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna fix the story that Dirk told at
Speaker 3: his Hall of Fame introduction, right, so his enshrinement. So
Speaker 3: Dirk gets up there and he talks about how when
Speaker 3: I first bought the team, we played one on one,
Speaker 3: which is true, and he says, yeah, I dunked on
Speaker 3: his head and he quit, which is true. But what
Speaker 3: he did say is I scored the first two buckets
Speaker 3: and I quit because I was up to one. So there,
Speaker 3: Dirk take that.
Speaker 1: This year games with names Mark Cuban beats Dirk.
Speaker 3: I have it on video too.
Speaker 1: So you can't dunk on a guy that's not elite,
Speaker 1: Yes you can.
Speaker 3: I don't care. I've been dunked on so many times
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 2: And then I'd be remissed if we didn't talk about
Speaker 2: the road to the finals. You beat Kobe, you beat Durant,
Speaker 2: you beat Lebron, you beat Duell. That was in the finals,
Speaker 2: but Kobe Durant on the way to the fire that.
Speaker 3: First round against Portland, right, we were up two oh
Speaker 3: maybe no it was two oh. And we go to
Speaker 3: Portland and we're up like twenty four at halftime and
Speaker 3: Brandon Roy, who could barely walk at the time but
Speaker 3: it was just incredible player, came back and literally took
Speaker 3: us and that made it to one, and I think
Speaker 3: they tied it to two. But that really made us
Speaker 3: come together and when we won that series, that really
Speaker 3: built our confidence.
Speaker 1: Sometimes those come from behind or those losses that I saw.
Speaker 1: Like for us, it was in twenty fourteen. We went
Speaker 1: on to win the Super Bowl. That year, we went
Speaker 1: and lost to the Green Bay Packers, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of like it was kind of like a basketball
Speaker 1: trip for us. We went directly from Green Bay to
Speaker 1: San Diego, stayed a week in San Diego, which we
Speaker 1: don't do that. You can usually go back and forth.
Speaker 1: But it was such a gelling moment from us for
Speaker 1: us after that loss in November to come back play
Speaker 1: in San Diego. We all were together in that area.
Speaker 1: It was like the first time.
Speaker 3: You don't know what it takes, right, don't because you know,
Speaker 3: you got fifty three guys, which makes it ten times
Speaker 3: harder and you barely get to know any of some
Speaker 3: of them, you know.
Speaker 1: But you know, and it's constantly revolving, right, just like
Speaker 1: you guys, You guys are getting those ten day contracts and.
Speaker 3: Changes, but not as much as like you guys, right,
Speaker 3: it's like, who were you with us? You know? It
Speaker 3: takes time because when there's only fifteen guys, everybody's got
Speaker 3: their own the veterans that they got their own personalities, right,
Speaker 3: and they've got their own history and they've been through
Speaker 3: it enough where they want to win. But it takes
Speaker 3: time for everybody to get the rolls down. And we
Speaker 3: got we got all that together early, and then the
Speaker 3: injuries come along and then you know, we're still there's
Speaker 3: stilled with some uncertainty. Then we get to Portland, we
Speaker 3: get whooped on that comeback and it was like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is what we got to do. We cleaned it up.
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle was great about it, figured it out, and
Speaker 3: then boom, we just started rolling rolling. It was insane.
Speaker 1: You guys swept the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember going into that series going, oh shit,
Speaker 3: this is the two time defending champs. This is gonna
Speaker 3: be tough.
Speaker 1: Now. Now we're full anti Laker podcasts. Okay, pro Kobe
Speaker 1: podcast we love called anti Laker just any there with you?
Speaker 1: Any Kobe stories.
Speaker 3: Kobe and I would text back and forth more like
Speaker 3: towards the end of his career.
Speaker 1: He's picking your brain for entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I would. I would give him shit. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: now that you're retired, and I remember when he retired,
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, now you're on mar turf. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: kick your ass, but I'm happy to help you if
Speaker 3: you're willing to accept the requirements. And yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, And and you know we got We weren't close,
Speaker 3: but we got to be friends.
Speaker 1: I remember he came and spoke to our team. We'd
Speaker 1: always have some speaker in the off season. And the
Speaker 1: amount of knowledge that came out of his on a
Speaker 1: wide range, not just competition, not just sport, but like
Speaker 1: how he educated himself in like multiple different facets of
Speaker 1: life that I could speak like four languages, which insane,
Speaker 1: you know, like he was a he was a brilliant guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah he knew, I mean felt that when year around him.
Speaker 3: For sure. I mean he knew that he was going
Speaker 3: to play to hes forty at the oldest right and
Speaker 3: he was gonna hope so, you know, heartbreaking now, but
Speaker 3: life is a little much longer, you know, when you're fortunate,
Speaker 3: and I think he wanted to prepare for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we got to pour a little out for
Speaker 1: Kobe of the p h By the way, I'm not
Speaker 1: a pitch guy, but you know, this water brand is
Speaker 1: my water brand, and we are taking it.
Speaker 3: I'm just choking, but I think I saw this on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on Amazon because it's great water.
Speaker 3: I think they had a special on because I think
Speaker 3: I bought like two eight packs. Are they like an
Speaker 3: eight pax?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got him in eight packs.
Speaker 3: When we're done, I'll look on my Amazon because refrigerator.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna send him to you. Even better,
Speaker 1: even better if free will give you three You learned
Speaker 1: all right? So you notoriously went dark? Yeah on social
Speaker 1: Yeah you're social guy zero dark thirty. We all heard
Speaker 1: from Lebron. So you're the real pioneer of shutting it
Speaker 1: all down for the playoffs. Yeah, for sure. What you
Speaker 1: had to get into mindset, you had to let everyone
Speaker 1: know you were focusing up.
Speaker 3: No, I'm stupid, stitious and so stupid. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been talking all the other ones and had to work
Speaker 3: for us, So I'm like, I'm just gonna shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up. And when we won the first series, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's working. Then the next it's working again. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say a word. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: about you, but I have so many routines that I'm
Speaker 3: just stupid stitious about. Like if you watch me from
Speaker 3: the first game of the first series. Up until Game six,
Speaker 3: my face bloated like this because my thing was, Okay,
Speaker 3: if I take a sip of the of my diet
Speaker 3: coke at the right moment, we'll score.
Speaker 1: And if I.
Speaker 3: Take my diet coke and put it down the exact
Speaker 3: right spot that we'll get a stop. And obviously it worked.
Speaker 3: So I just kept on doing.
Speaker 1: What's the record for dCas in a game?
Speaker 4: Oh, I have no idea, there is no lie. I
Speaker 4: would just give the guy a hundred bucks to say,
Speaker 4: just come. And so I have so many like where
Speaker 4: I sit, where my arms go, this on that. Still
Speaker 4: to this day, I was.
Speaker 1: The same way. I was very superstitious. Pregame what you eat,
Speaker 1: when you eat everything, you have all routines, getting to
Speaker 1: the stadium early, like everything had to be tailor.
Speaker 3: Just reduces the stress because you gotta, you know, just
Speaker 3: sitting there, like you said, I can't do anything, so
Speaker 3: I gotta distract myself.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Game breakdown, Jackie.
Speaker 2: Like we said earlier, Dirk started cold, Lebron started hot,
Speaker 2: back and forth all first quarter. Then when I thought
Speaker 2: was interesting, MAVs got their first double digit lead of
Speaker 2: the whole series in the second quarter of this one.
Speaker 2: Was that the whole series, the whole series, back and
Speaker 2: forth all series and then of course the NBA a
Speaker 2: game of runs. He'd come back, uh kill that twelve
Speaker 2: point lead. Then we got a little scuffle before the half,
Speaker 2: which I love to see. You don't see scuffles in
Speaker 2: the finals anymore, which I mean no.
Speaker 3: But when when you're the you know, the favorite saying
Speaker 3: things aren't going so well, there's always scuffles.
Speaker 2: It was Shawn and there mixing it up.
Speaker 3: Sean. Shawn's a beast. I mean, I mean, who else
Speaker 3: has got Abraham Lincoln on their neck?
Speaker 1: Now? Now? Forgot about that as an owner when you
Speaker 1: see these because there's there's a lot of owners that
Speaker 1: probably say, look at these guys are out there fighting,
Speaker 1: like does it fire you up? Did it fire you up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course?
Speaker 1: Or is it like what are we doing? No?
Speaker 3: I mean unless it's going to cost us a technical
Speaker 3: in a close game, right, but Noah gets me fired up.
Speaker 3: We'll talk quick. Another quick story. When I first bought
Speaker 3: the team, right We're in Reunion Arena and I hadn't
Speaker 3: known the team probably ten games, and we we had
Speaker 3: this thing where if the mav scored one hundred points,
Speaker 3: everybody in the fan, all the fans in the arena
Speaker 3: got chaloupa free chiloopas from Taco Bell whatever it was.
Speaker 3: And so one of our guys, Gary Trent, even though
Speaker 3: you know, because kind of NBA unwritten rules are, if
Speaker 3: you're up at the end, you don't go for that
Speaker 3: last bucket. You just let the clock run out. One
Speaker 3: of our guys. The fans are going chah loopah, cha loopah.
Speaker 3: So Gary Trent throws it up there to score, right,
Speaker 3: and I think it was Oliver Miller. Somebody throws them
Speaker 3: on the ground and is on top of them. And
Speaker 3: I'm standing there because the game's over and we're expected
Speaker 3: just to want I run out on the court while
Speaker 3: they're they're still playing while all this is going on,
Speaker 3: and you should see the look on the ref's eyes
Speaker 3: and to try to stop me. And I realized, Mark,
Speaker 3: these guys are a whole lot bigger than guys you
Speaker 3: ever played with. So get your ass back.
Speaker 1: But you got to keep the customer happy. They want.
Speaker 3: Entrepreneur one on one, Yeah, no stupidity one on one
Speaker 3: with both of those guys are two fifty and up.
Speaker 1: Oh man, so you were always on the you're always
Speaker 1: on the bench. Yeah, I still do and it's still
Speaker 1: on the bench.
Speaker 2: I just pulled it up from the headline in the
Speaker 2: Washington Post from the next day, Cuban punished for part
Speaker 2: in Chiloupa Melee classic.
Speaker 3: Oh my God in the Washington Post of all places. Whoa,
Speaker 3: that's funny as hell. What year was that?
Speaker 2: That was from February seventeenth, oh one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right when I bought the team.
Speaker 1: Jeloopa Melee. That's Chiloopah Melee. Now, when you're on the
Speaker 1: sideline or the bench football, like, are you in there?
Speaker 1: Like are do you? Are you saying anything to the guys? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: When coaches got him and he's drawing up a play,
Speaker 1: are you over there? Well, because like, hey, why don't
Speaker 1: you let's do this play?
Speaker 3: No, but like I'll talk to the guys, Like because
Speaker 3: the guys who are in the game right, they're focused
Speaker 3: on the you're not listening to me and I'm not
Speaker 3: talking to them. But guy just comes out of the
Speaker 3: game and it's like, hey, you know, just reminder this
Speaker 3: guy does this or whatever. And guy, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not I don't yell at guys and saying you shocked.
Speaker 3: Da da da da da. It's always encouraging and positive
Speaker 3: nine percent of the time.
Speaker 1: And then being on the bench, you're like one of
Speaker 1: the first owners to like get to be involved.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm screaming a yelling.
Speaker 1: But the celebration when you guys win, Oh, that's the
Speaker 1: best part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best part, you know, because when there's
Speaker 3: like just one possession left, right, nobody just sits on
Speaker 3: the bench where they're supposed to be. Everybody stands up
Speaker 3: right at the sidelines right in anticipation of what's going
Speaker 3: to happen, and everybody's holding their breath and that ball
Speaker 3: is in the air, and if it misses, it's like
Speaker 3: ah da da da, see ya da da da, And then.
Speaker 4: What goes in I'm sprinting on, I'm getting in that
Speaker 4: pile on. Absolutely, absolutely, that's the best part.
Speaker 1: As a player, that's that's awesome when you see your
Speaker 1: owner that is that passionate about the team the game win,
Speaker 1: Like that's what you want to play for, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's something that you should you know. Look, I mean,
Speaker 1: as a player, it's just awesome to see the owner.
Speaker 3: It's not even about being the owner. It's just part
Speaker 3: of the team being a computer, the competitor, right computer.
Speaker 3: It's just like if you're not in the game as
Speaker 3: an athlete, it's it's different, but just every inch of
Speaker 3: my bean is caught up on what's going on in
Speaker 3: that moment, right There's no Okay, there's another game. There's
Speaker 3: none of that with me. It's just like every it
Speaker 3: could be, you know, other than preseason games, game one,
Speaker 3: game forty, game eighty, whatever it is. I'm all in, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, And.
Speaker 1: That's a beauty about sport because like with with our face,
Speaker 1: with our organization, when we won, it wasn't just us
Speaker 1: winning as players, it was the people that were serving us,
Speaker 1: the people that were saying as the organization, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the organization, you know, every ladies that
Speaker 1: are helping you out everyone, but did their job to
Speaker 1: help us win.
Speaker 3: People don't released in the NBA. You lose money. You
Speaker 3: make more money when you have a bad team than
Speaker 3: when when you win a championship because you're buying rings
Speaker 3: for everybody, and those rings were expensive.
Speaker 1: I got a few of those bad boys the aftermath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take us through the night a live We all have
Speaker 1: everyone's got a story at liv what by the way,
Speaker 1: what a great place to win a championship?
Speaker 3: Miami? Miami, well especially there are so many MAVs fans
Speaker 3: that have gone down there that by the end there
Speaker 3: you know, the chance were let's go MAVs, which was
Speaker 3: just so much fun. And then Jet was like, we
Speaker 3: got to go out. We got I'm like, Dirk, yeah,
Speaker 3: we got to go out, right, So we we wrangled
Speaker 3: up a party bus somehow some way and went a championship,
Speaker 3: just won a championship, right, so we're like going to live.
Speaker 3: I'm like, cool, let's go.
Speaker 1: First time there? No no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Perfect spot right because I had to scout and so
Speaker 3: we went and oh boy, it was. It was a night.
Speaker 1: What's your best what's your best celebration memory?
Speaker 3: Well, the first part was my card getting declined when
Speaker 3: we went to buy a big bottle of Champlaine champagne.
Speaker 3: That was insane.
Speaker 7: So didn't call the accountant to let him know you're
Speaker 7: in Miami, a purchase the bottles will get you.
Speaker 3: Like I had changed my my MX card for whatever reason, right,
Speaker 3: and they came up to me like Mark, we've got
Speaker 3: this huge bottle of ace of Spade, not a Spades
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and no, it was as Spades and
Speaker 3: it was like one hundred and forty grand and they're like,
Speaker 3: do you want it? And Jerk's like, yes, he wants it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, yeah, let's get it. And then
Speaker 3: ten minutes later go buy and there's nothing, and Jerk's like,
Speaker 3: where is this? Come on, Cubs, where is it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: let me find out. Then two minutes later, you know,
Speaker 3: it's one of those mister Cuban went from Mark to
Speaker 3: mister Cuban, can we see you back here for a minute?
Speaker 3: Like your card was declined? I'm like what. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's get americans Express on the line. And
Speaker 3: we call American Express and the lady said, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I can't approve it because it's just you know, you're
Speaker 3: at a club, it's one hundred and four thousand, You've
Speaker 3: never bought anything like this. We just changed cards and
Speaker 3: it's fraud detection. I'm like, can I talk to your
Speaker 3: manager and they're like, yes, sir, and he's like, how
Speaker 3: do I know? This is Mark Cuban and dah da
Speaker 3: dah I'm like, were you just watching TV? Did you
Speaker 3: see that we just won a championship and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to buy a bottle of champagne? You know, just go
Speaker 3: on whatever? It was, right, And so they finally approved
Speaker 3: it and I got my one hundred and forty thousand
Speaker 3: dollar bottle of champagne.
Speaker 1: Did you keep that bottle of champagne for?
Speaker 3: I wish I had. I wish I had. We gave
Speaker 3: it to somebody that was there who can at.
Speaker 1: Least you know they're protecting you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Kind of like goddamn airport. You know, you tussle every
Speaker 1: time you have to go, and you're like, thank god
Speaker 1: they're checking. Ye. How special was it to get Dirk
Speaker 1: and Jason Kidd a title for their like.
Speaker 3: Really really important because you know, Dirk had just been
Speaker 3: you know, criticized relentlessly about how he couldn't win the
Speaker 3: big game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like the best player. He had that stigma.
Speaker 1: He was the best player in the league that couldn't
Speaker 1: win it, yep.
Speaker 3: And so I was happy for him. And Jay Kid
Speaker 3: was thirty eight, you know, he needed it and wanted it,
Speaker 3: and they just busted their ass and so yeah, I
Speaker 3: was happy for.
Speaker 1: Both of them. Jason kid coming back.
Speaker 3: It was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'm from the Bay Area
Speaker 1: and so he's an Oakland was he was a legend.
Speaker 1: He was, he was a legend. Is Dirk the best
Speaker 1: euro of all time?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Now Jokic is going to be up there with
Speaker 3: him when it's all said and done. But Dirk, without question,
Speaker 3: right now is number one guy.
Speaker 1: What about Luke?
Speaker 3: Luca is going to be there too, for sure. I
Speaker 3: think Luca has a chance to be a lot better.
Speaker 3: But it's going to come down to Luca versus Jokic
Speaker 3: for the best Europeans of all time.
Speaker 1: No, you've hit, You've struck. You struck oil twice in
Speaker 1: your own Like how does that? You know, how does
Speaker 1: that work that you were you? Is it lucky because
Speaker 1: you were the first, like Dirk was like really the
Speaker 1: first European that like dominated. Yeah, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: like there was always a couple of.
Speaker 3: Good players, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, game changing players.
Speaker 3: That's just on Dirk, right, Dirk just worked his ass off,
Speaker 3: just his the amount of effort he put in, like
Speaker 3: during the season, no sugar, no fried chicken, you know,
Speaker 3: nothing fried right, no alcohol during the season, and he's
Speaker 3: just that committed and fortunate. A lot of that now
Speaker 3: is starting to rub off on Luca and they're really
Speaker 3: close friends. So it's cool to see.
Speaker 1: Is a Jim was very particular? Was engineering.
Speaker 3: Nice dry the.
Speaker 1: Did the heat live up to the hype?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean obviously they won. They won again. They
Speaker 3: won three, I think, Yeah, so more power to them.
Speaker 1: That was it was cool to be take him down though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh no, Hey, I loved every minute.
Speaker 1: That's the best. That's that's insane. Jack. Did we miss anything?
Speaker 2: We're pretty good. But I gotta give a little shine
Speaker 2: to my man Yon me emy buzzer beater in this game.
Speaker 3: I saw Yan at the Hall of Fame and Shrineman.
Speaker 3: Yan hit one of the biggest shots, right Yeah, end
Speaker 3: of the third quarter, maybe just an elbow jumper like
Speaker 3: and you could just see the whole arena and the
Speaker 3: and the Miami bench just the air came out when
Speaker 3: he was the later. Yeah. And another time he hit
Speaker 3: like two clutch free throws.
Speaker 2: Too underrated guy, ye, Mark. I don't ask much of
Speaker 2: our guests on here, but this season, could you bring
Speaker 2: back the MAVs football jersey?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just telling you right. The first one is City.
Speaker 3: I designed those way back and I love those things.
Speaker 3: That we sold out and then I don't know what happened,
Speaker 3: and so I had them do it again and I'll
Speaker 3: have it probably work for the opening game. It's sitting
Speaker 3: in my closets. Com you guys do like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I love it. You asked that question, Jack.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like tell you they they they've
Speaker 1: done those whole social media where the basketball team and
Speaker 1: the football team they do like they do like a
Speaker 1: photo op of you know, the Boston Celtics wearing the
Speaker 1: Boston Patriots that we should do like a we should
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: We've done a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: We've done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not not quite to that extent, but that's actually
Speaker 3: a good idea. You know, show support for each other.
Speaker 1: It shows support. But I can also see you know,
Speaker 1: owners and owners of different leagues.
Speaker 3: No, Jerry and I get along great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you guys took it to another level. You
Speaker 2: put one on the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fun. I'd actually when I met Tony
Speaker 3: we were playing pickup and he came up to me afterwards. Hey,
Speaker 3: Mark just wanted to produce myself. I'm the backup quarterback
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. I mean, I just thought this guy
Speaker 3: can hoop, right, he was really good, and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: it's nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: And then was he just dishing?
Speaker 3: Oh he could score, he could do it all like
Speaker 3: he was like him and Kron Butler were all all
Speaker 3: Wisconsin State, all start.
Speaker 1: Tony's a stud.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's a hell of an golf He's
Speaker 3: a hell of an athlete. It's good, dude.
Speaker 1: Now, this is games with names. We like to name
Speaker 1: the game. This one's for Dirk. Okay, the first one
Speaker 1: is the sweetest. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Speaker 3: I'd say this one's for Dirk.
Speaker 1: This one's for Dirk. This one's for Dirk, kind of
Speaker 1: like when they remember when Broncos.
Speaker 3: Maybe not where you say it, but this one's for Dirk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. We got to score this game.
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Speaker 1: Not a fat guy, but just check me. Let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's score the game. The stakes of this game
Speaker 1: zero to ten? What are the steaks for me? Ten? Ten? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. I mean you never want to get it
Speaker 1: to a game seven.
Speaker 3: No, No, you never know, because anything's possible.
Speaker 1: When you got them down, you break their neck, throw
Speaker 1: them away, throw them away, star power.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously it was the heatles, right, so that was
Speaker 3: as big as you can get back then.
Speaker 1: So and then you guys also had Jason Kid or yeah,
Speaker 1: of course yead Jet.
Speaker 3: So I mean everybody was watching because everybody wanted to
Speaker 3: see what would happen, and it was you know, I
Speaker 3: didn't feel bad for him, but it was just like
Speaker 3: everybody was rooting for us and against the Heat, so
Speaker 3: we were the underdogs that everybody was rooting for.
Speaker 1: So ten ten.
Speaker 3: Gameplay probably an eight eight, yeah, because there was some
Speaker 3: ugliness in the first half, end of the first half,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't a pretty game until the end. Jet
Speaker 3: hit a big three from deep Dirk did his left
Speaker 3: handed layup. Yeah, so I'd say gameplay was it wasn't pretty.
Speaker 1: But the name, this one's for Dirk, this one's.
Speaker 3: For Dirk, this one's for the dirty Heat defeat.
Speaker 1: So what do you think we name it or what
Speaker 1: do we do? We score it on the name?
Speaker 3: Well, the way you said it a six, the way
Speaker 3: I said I said it at ten? Ten I said it,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: The middle of eight. Should we meet in the middle
Speaker 2: of eight?
Speaker 1: No, let's go ten, Let's go ten. This is this
Speaker 1: is you. This could score out to the best game
Speaker 1: we've ever done in the history.
Speaker 3: I'm not stupid. It's like, if I give myself low scores,
Speaker 3: it's never going to score as the best game. But
Speaker 3: who's at the top of the leader board?
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you mathematician?
Speaker 3: Were you doing I can add, I can add an average.
Speaker 1: Ye, where's it? Where's the line up? Jackie?
Speaker 2: This is taking the number one spot, number one, beating
Speaker 2: the eighteen and one Patriots Giant super.
Speaker 1: Bowl eighteen and one giant loss.
Speaker 2: Anything to not make that number one. I'm happy with.
Speaker 1: I am too too well, Mark cubes Cube, whatever you
Speaker 1: want me, whatever, whatever you want me to call you,
Speaker 1: just don't call me late for dinner. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on. This is awesome. It's great to have a conversation.
Speaker 1: Anything for me. Let me know, win bet, win bet
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Speaker 1: one more thing. I was actually, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you're an owner of a National Basketball Association team. I
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Speaker 1: want me to be come an owner. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: got any words of wisdom for a potential owner of
Speaker 1: a professional basketball team in Israel?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do they make any money? There's your answers,
Speaker 3: there's your answer, unless you want to go. I mean
Speaker 3: it's fun to be able to say, you know, I
Speaker 3: own this team and you know, go over there and
Speaker 3: hang out and for a little bit. Yeah, it'd be fun.
Speaker 3: It depends how much money they want from you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, you got it. Well, that was pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Our first owner, a billionaire own I know what a
Speaker 2: cool guy rolled.
Speaker 1: Up just chilling by himself, by.
Speaker 2: Himself, no entourage, no handlers.
Speaker 1: What a guy, billionaire just rolling up by himself nothing.
Speaker 2: That was so cool.
Speaker 1: Sweatsuit chilling. I'm picking. I don't care, I just care.
Speaker 1: He just he just he just got that. What's the
Speaker 1: cheapest top ten business school?
Speaker 2: I'm going there, Indiana, sign me up.
Speaker 1: And sign me up. That's he was a cool dude,
Speaker 1: cool guy. The Chiloopa story was.
Speaker 2: Amazing, causing mayhem for Chiloopa's.
Speaker 1: Patriots ever do something like that, like a Papa Gino's
Speaker 1: or something, you get a sliceos.
Speaker 2: I don't remember off top. We gotta do some digging
Speaker 2: on that one, but I remember that.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that our pizza for a while was a Papa Gino?
Speaker 1: I think it was. They may have changed it though
Speaker 1: they used to be in the stadium.
Speaker 2: No, wouldn't our guy, Our guy, Sammy Biggers was in
Speaker 2: Papa Gino's commercials for a little while advertisements, Yes, Sam,
Speaker 2: Sam Biggers.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh D'Angelo sorry DiAngelo Sandwich. I always drove by
Speaker 1: one and never got it. Thought about it though. I
Speaker 1: feel that, you know, I feel that. Can we talk
Speaker 1: about our scoring system?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for today's post game segment, post interview segment, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take a little breather and revisit the scoring segment,
Speaker 2: sort of have a a state of the Union. Come
Speaker 2: to Jesus if you will, on the way we've been
Speaker 2: scoring these games. Because we talk about him with all
Speaker 2: the guests and they can see the rankings and it's
Speaker 2: they're all over the board, all over them.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's Mark came in and Brick is
Speaker 1: our integrity.
Speaker 2: Mark came in and was given tens all over and
Speaker 2: we're not gonna argue with Mark, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, argue Mark.
Speaker 2: He can't argue with Mark cuban in. I mean, no
Speaker 2: matter what house you're in, he's in our house. But
Speaker 2: we'll let him cook. But that means we gotta take
Speaker 2: a little step back every now and again. Look at
Speaker 2: some of these.
Speaker 1: He just cooks and he leaves. Who's fucking doing the dishes?
Speaker 1: We are?
Speaker 2: We are putting your game number one overall over the
Speaker 2: brand ski in Peterson. Come on, man, I think we're
Speaker 2: in and within this number one number one that put
Speaker 2: it out smart.
Speaker 1: See that tells me he's a marketing guy because he
Speaker 1: knows how big games with names is and he wants
Speaker 1: us right at the top. So every time we to
Speaker 1: talk about his team, every place's just doing chess when
Speaker 1: we're doing I'm playing like over checkers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a part of me is over here happy
Speaker 2: like oh fucking eighteen one gets dethroned, but now it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, twenty eleven finals, Dirk like the dirty
Speaker 2: dirty dirt getting one that's so whack and and Kyler,
Speaker 2: I think who who we know is is all over
Speaker 2: these and is calculating and running the show over here
Speaker 2: like this. This is a stuck in Kyler's crawl, Like
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe game play looking through this list.
Speaker 8: Ten I'm beside myself and I won't be silenced any longer.
Speaker 8: This segment needs a hard look at the mirror, just
Speaker 8: like just look at this list the Iron Man match.
Speaker 3: These are scripted.
Speaker 1: This is a fake situation. It's not scripted.
Speaker 3: I know, we love the ww it's not scripted.
Speaker 8: Michael's is the best, but that's better than the nineteen
Speaker 8: ninety nine Women's World Cup or the twenty eight and
Speaker 8: three Patriots Falcons super are you are?
Speaker 3: We are?
Speaker 8: We just gonna stand idly by and like just stand
Speaker 8: by this list. And I don't I don't have any answers.
Speaker 8: I just can see the problem. So maybe we need
Speaker 8: to like not cho and then like, also, okay, Pro
Speaker 8: Bowl at the end that I think that's the best
Speaker 8: ranking we have. The Pro Bowl is at the very end.
Speaker 8: That's fine, But like, what.
Speaker 1: Do how it stars?
Speaker 8: We've got We've got the Titans and Rams, Super Bowl?
Speaker 8: What is that thirty thirty four that with Kurt Warner
Speaker 8: that's over the statue of Liberty Game, which is probably
Speaker 8: the greatest game of all time. I'll stand on the
Speaker 8: table for.
Speaker 1: That statue of Liberty Game. Zimbranski, Zibranski greatest game. It
Speaker 1: was an exciting game. So was that the year after
Speaker 1: the USC Texas or before.
Speaker 8: After USC is two thousand and five. That this game
Speaker 8: is two thousand and seven, So two years after, two years.
Speaker 1: After, because that's when Boise State they were playing. Maybe
Speaker 1: they were they were doing. Those are some fun Bowl games,
Speaker 1: those that those that five years that so fun. I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's because I played in those years.
Speaker 8: I mean I was in college in those years too,
Speaker 8: So it does have extra value.
Speaker 1: But with that USC game, we gotta get, we gotta do.
Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet. It's in the mix liners.
Speaker 1: I mean, all we gotta do is bring a bag
Speaker 1: of Wendy's in. He'll come in. See him on all
Speaker 1: the goddamn commercials. Come on, Wendy.
Speaker 8: What can we do to make this segment productive?
Speaker 1: Like? What are some soft square patties because you cut corners?
Speaker 2: I think Kyler raises a good point and in wanting
Speaker 2: to put in a little bit of a system, see
Speaker 2: I think last year or In our past episodes, we
Speaker 2: would wait until the guest was gone. Now the guest
Speaker 2: is here. We were being what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 2: we're being very hospitable.
Speaker 1: Yes, there he is.
Speaker 2: And this hospitality is leading to a little bit of
Speaker 2: a downfall in the scoring system, in the integrity of it.
Speaker 2: I think because they are.
Speaker 1: It's gone.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a joke. I mean, I don't harp
Speaker 2: too much on it because I like the stories, like
Speaker 2: the friendships we make, and I like the memories we
Speaker 2: get to unearth on this show. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: worry about.
Speaker 1: Numbers, but.
Speaker 3: We do gotta.
Speaker 2: It is a it's a fundamental.
Speaker 1: Part it is. So I don't know. So here's my solution.
Speaker 1: What do we do?
Speaker 8: So we we have a hotline. Now, we've got a
Speaker 8: phone you can call in. It's not live, but we've
Speaker 8: got a voice message four two four two nine one
Speaker 8: two two nine zero.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 8: If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, leave a message,
Speaker 8: keep it under a minute. Leave some message, Leave leave
Speaker 8: some ideas. I think we're open to hearing. I mean,
Speaker 8: maybe we just do an episode where no guests and
Speaker 8: we just take a cold shower. Look at this list
Speaker 8: and maybe rescore some games, or maybe we know who
Speaker 8: we are and maybe we we we change some stuff.
Speaker 8: But I'm I think let's have the best idea when here,
Speaker 8: let's see what the fans have to say.
Speaker 1: Why don't we bring up a fan a fan episode
Speaker 1: episode Real Scorrologist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go through this thing line by line, do a
Speaker 2: little audit, crack open the books.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like the ol I R S. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna hire fifty thousand more. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do guys, you're gonna come in. We're coming for
Speaker 1: justice on this case.
Speaker 2: No stone left unturned and you can leave your message
Speaker 2: of under one minute at four two four two nine
Speaker 2: one two nine zero.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was another great episode of Games with names
Speaker 1: of Mark Cuban. Hell yeah, man, that's pretty cool to
Speaker 1: have Mark Cuban in our our clubhouse. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like in the team issued sweats.
Speaker 1: What a beast team issue saves his money?
Speaker 2: I like it smart.
Speaker 1: We're spending all that money, you know, where does he
Speaker 1: gonna make it?
Speaker 2: You better us?
Speaker 1: Episode?
Speaker 2: Geez?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to get some for the wall. Remember, guys,
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