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Speaker 1: He was the bad boy of the owners back in

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Speaker 3: Everybody hated them. You know, from an owner's perspective, I'm

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Speaker 3: just terrified the whole day. Your emotions are just all over.

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Speaker 3: My thing was, Okay, if I take a sip of

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Speaker 1: You've heard millions of pitches you were in on the

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Speaker 1: Lebron sweepsteak. What was your pitch games with names is

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Radio Welcome to Games with Names,

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Speaker 1: presented by win Bet. On today's episode, we're talking Game

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Speaker 1: six of the twenty eleven NBA Finals with Maverick's owner

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban. We promised not to pitch him anything. I

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Speaker 1: With if I had pitch. But we got into his pitch.

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Speaker 1: We were ready to just like a gun slinger.

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Speaker 1: We dive into him as an NFL owner or NBA owner,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the pig gets fat. What does he say?

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Speaker 1: into who's the greater euro Luca Dirk, Joe Kooker. We

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Speaker 2: He had some some wise words of advice.

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Speaker 1: Tons of times, tons of times. Then now he's like

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Speaker 2: I I like crunt traps. I'm a crunch trap guy.

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Speaker 1: The Big Three are looking for their first.

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Speaker 1: highly noted that you've tried to buy other organizations baseball teams, soccer,

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Speaker 1: Entrepreneurials bad boy. Yeah that was day one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to twenty twelve, twenty eleven. Now, this

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Speaker 1: What was going on in that time. And number one

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Speaker 1: is we we have a lot of Boston people. He

437
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: was arrested right down the street here in Santa Was

438
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: that like twelve years ago. It's that's crazy.

439
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, Rolling in the Deep, you know,

440
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: that was a great song. It was a song. And yeah,

441
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: Dell and now she's dating Rich from Clutch, right, and

442
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: so it's just like a small connection.

443
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: Obviously Kyrie Kyrie number one. Well you guys have Kyrie

444
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: right now.

445
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Kyrie.

446
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: You love him.

447
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: He's a good dude.

448
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: I spent some time with them. So when I think

449
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: I was suspended, I got suspended. I was on vacation.

450
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: The Celtics let me come into their organization and and

451
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: work with them. That's cool, just to keep a routine.

452
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: And uh I sat down with Kyrie a bunch. We

453
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: played ping pong and we just talk nothing about sports,

454
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: nothing about st That's who he is, you know, and

455
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: he just ask random questions and you know, I don't

456
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: really know him, but like I he was like a

457
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: really interesting guy.

458
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: He really likes to get deep on something deep, really deep, right,

459
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 3: Like he wants basketball is his profession, but he wants

460
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: to be a more well rounded human, right, and he

461
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: wants to connect to people on a human level, which

462
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: is why I like Kyrie. But that's not easy for

463
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Speaker 3: everybody to accept or understand.

464
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Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's it's tough because last few

465
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: years he's been with a bunch of teams and it's

466
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Speaker 1: hard for But you know.

467
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Speaker 3: What it's like when you look at athletes from the outside,

468
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 3: you don't really know until you know them exactly. You know,

469
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of perceptions, a lot of misperceptions. But

470
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: you know, when before we made the trade, you know

471
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: I would I went back and I watch after games

472
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 3: and other players around the league when they played him,

473
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: will come up and give him a big hug, right,

474
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: Not let's just exchange jerseys, you know, pat him on

475
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: the back, pat him on the head. It's just like

476
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: no larger than larger than life. They connect to him.

477
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: They love the guy, and that was a big difference maker.

478
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: And you know, when you talk to him, like because

479
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: he is so deep, it's not the typical conversation you're

480
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: gonna have with an athlete.

481
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: No, it could be something about the moon. It could

482
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Speaker 1: be something literally about like the ocean.

483
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, and he's really big into his

484
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: genealogy and so his Lakota roots and all these things,

485
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: which I find fascinating. Yeah right, I told him this,

486
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: he goes, I told him, you remind me of my mom.

487
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: My mom was the same way. So it was pretty cool.

488
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. What was life like for Mark Cuban in twenty eleven.

489
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: Well, pre June twelfth or post June twelfth, let's go

490
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: pre pre It was, you know, getting to the playoffs.

491
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I have the best life in the world.

492
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: There's just just no way fans or butts about it.

493
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: My kids are healthy, so that wall was good. But

494
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: you know, the sports side of things, you get to

495
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and we had made it past the first

496
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: round in a while, and there was some radio guys

497
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: that were calling us to one and done boys, and

498
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: so getting past.

499
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Speaker 1: That, well the year before was that the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: No, that was a couple of years ago, a couple

501
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: of years yeah, where we were sixty seven and fifteen

502
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: the last time guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't. That was crazy.

504
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: It was my shirt though, right, Yeah, yeah, I just

505
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I like your shirt.

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00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: I like your shirt too, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know, but uh, how's it changed since after te

508
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 7: Georgia was great because you know, I never paid for

509
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Speaker 7: a meal.

510
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Speaker 3: I mean because we beat the dreaded heat right, the Heatles.

511
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: Everybody hated them, and it was so different because, like

512
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: I remember, right after we won, I had to go

513
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 3: to New York for something I already had scheduled. On

514
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: the tarmac, I got off the plane and people just

515
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: started clapping. We all we went to a restaurant for

516
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 3: an event and in New York and people just go

517
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: clapping for me everywhere I went, and even in the

518
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: Board of Governor's meeting with other owners. When I came

519
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: into the next meeting, they started clapping, which was like insane.

520
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Speaker 3: That just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was like the second super big team

522
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: big three thing going on everyone. You know, the Celtics

523
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Speaker 1: kind of got away with it because those guys were

524
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: a little older in their career. They weren't necessarily in

525
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: the prime like right, these three.

526
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: No, it was going to be not one, not two,

527
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: not three.

528
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: And then the whole announcement with Lebron like that exactly exactly.

529
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Plus Danny traded for those guys and he made those movies.

530
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: These guys all that felt like left.

531
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Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly now you're in Shark Tank. Yeah, you've

532
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: heard millions of pitches, millions. You were in on the

533
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: Lebron sweepstake, tried to be what was the pitch? I

534
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: want to hear this legendary pitch A man that has

535
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: heard so many pitches in his life, you know, what

536
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: was your pitch?

537
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: We didn't get a chance really to sit down and

538
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: pitch and pitch him, so I had to go through

539
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: different channels, right through Maverick and other people I knew.

540
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: And it was.

541
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Speaker 1: Basically perfect guy to go through, by the way, with

542
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Speaker 1: the Mavericks.

543
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Maverick Mavericks, right, Maverick Carter, And it was basically

544
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: this will be your town and you and Dirk together

545
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: that compliment each other, with Jason Kidd as a point guard.

546
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: But we didn't really, we never had to sit down

547
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 3: with him.

548
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Fanny, Yeah, and that's exactly right.

549
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: We even got a little message from Jerry, you know,

550
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: a little video from Jerry and Tony Romo and all

551
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: these guys, and yeah, it didn't work, but it worked.

552
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: It worked. It worked and.

553
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: I made it all the sweeter. And I'll tell you

554
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: know a story about that. During that series, we were

555
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: down in last game one, were down in Game two

556
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: at halftime in Miami, and at that time to go

557
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: off the court, you walk on the court and you

558
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: make a left to go back to the locker room,

559
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: and pat Riley sat right there, was standing right there,

560
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: and he goes, we got you, Mark, We're too long,

561
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: too fast, and damn. Right after he says that we

562
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: come back in the second half and when and when?

563
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Speaker 1: So that was kind of is that an intimidation in

564
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: factor by old path?

565
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if he timidates me.

566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I know, but that's the kind of good is ARMANI suit?

567
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was arrogant, but that's okay.

568
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I like little fire.

569
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Oh no, there's always fire going I diden.

570
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up, but like, what

571
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: do people call you Mark?

572
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: Ye?

573
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: Mark?

574
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: Cubes cuban Yeah, cubes Mark whatever que yeah just no,

575
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: No one called me cube just cubes, yeah, Cuban cubes cues.

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00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: On this day in twenty twelve, twenty eleven, we also

577
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: go back on the social you were This will sound weird,

578
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm lying in bed with the trophy next to me.

579
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Dreams do Dreams Come True with the hashtag yep legendary

580
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: tweet legendary look at mana. He was such a stud.

581
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, JJ is the Northeastern Eastern.

582
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: Mine was eat your eat my heart out. Maps are

583
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: playing with hot fire cowabunga.

584
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Speaker 7: Okay, good first half dirty.

585
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: I have a feeling which he did heat up.

586
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, because he was I remember in

587
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: the locker room he was shaking his head. He was

588
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: like two for eleven or something like that. I remember, yeah,

589
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: and he was shaking as everybody's like, Dirk, don't matter,

590
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: don't matter. Come on, this is where you make. This

591
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760
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Speaker 2: Mean, we touched on a little bit of the narrative.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the super team, the heat year.

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Speaker 2: Lebron Bosh d Wade. Lebron brings big Z down there

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Speaker 3: So they were ten and ten playing us, and we

621
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622
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623
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Speaker 3: because Lebron gave Spolstra the shoulder shrug, right, remember right,

624
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: then I'll give you one other Miami Heat connection. So

625
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: when I first bought the MAVs, I got contacted by

626
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Speaker 3: Eric Spolstra's dad, who wrote one of the best marketing

627
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: books ever, and asked me to write the forward. So yeah,

628
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720
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629
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880
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630
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
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631
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: then ten years later his son was coaching.

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Speaker 2: He spose I mean, like, because I was a knock

633
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: on Spoe at the time. I go, he's too young

634
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: to coach these stars like pat Riley, all this stuff

635
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: they're about.

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00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: They were saying Pat was going to come out again, right.

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00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they were saying. I mean, it supposed

638
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: turned into just one of the rest. Yeah, is it?

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00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Like?

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00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: I know, he worked his way up from we were

641
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: joking towel boy the video room to head coach Blake.

642
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: Do you think staying with that team that long and

643
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: building you know, heat culture is like part of what

644
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: makes him so special.

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's hard to stay with

646
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: the team out It really really.

647
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Is, especially in basketball. Yeah, like even great coaches that

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: win championships.

649
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: You guys, especially recently, Yeah.

650
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: Because it's all it's a player's league.

651
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: And the changes too, Like you brought the point about

652
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: guys being in college for three years in the NFL.

653
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: Now they're getting with the NBA. They're getting younger and younger,

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00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: and social media is more impactful I think in basketball

655
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: than it is in football. I mean, there's some great

656
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: highlights for the NFL for high school and college players

657
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: on social media, but in basketball, kids are getting highlighted

658
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: when they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, and that's just

659
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: changed the whole mindset of kids coming in.

660
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I was the first kid on social

661
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: media in the locker room in two thousand and nine,

662
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: were you really Yeah, like my generation, the guys above

663
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: us were no clue. Everyone's before everyone and those Yeah,

664
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, so over the time, you know, like you said,

665
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: these kids are getting famous when they're twelve. And even

666
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: in football, you see a little kid he does a

667
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: backflip over a guy, right right, Yeah, and then he's

668
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: got like a million views. These guys they come into

669
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, thinking they've done things already before,

670
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: they've done.

671
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: Things what's even the last couple of years now with

672
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 3: nil they're getting paid because of it.

673
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to make that joke all the time

674
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: that the Alabama and the Florida guys were taking pay

675
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: cuts when they came to the NFL. Now it's legitimate

676
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and it's legit. It's crazy, but they were actually doing

677
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: that as well then.

678
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: No, I know obviously, I mean, yeah, the story is

679
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: a legendary, right, it's just above board now.

680
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark in saying that like this is this is

681
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: also sort of the first generation I feel like of

682
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: rookies that have maybe second or third year, but like

683
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: that have had their whole life on like the overtime

684
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: afflication of that, Like, yeah, what do you see when

685
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: these rookie I come in, like.

686
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's there's there's a good side. I'm actually

687
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: positive about it, okay, Because one they've made some money,

688
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: some nil money in high school, let alone college or

689
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: through overtime a lead or you know, g legal eight.

690
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: That's a good thing because they start to learn how

691
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: to manage their money, so that's a positive. They don't

692
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: just come to us with that too. They're used to

693
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: being under a microscope, and they're used to being watched

694
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: in cameras everywhere. Like back then, I had to worry

695
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: about a call at two o'clock in the morning, you know,

696
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: and you had your teammates, right, you know, all that

697
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: stuff went down, and now I don't have to anymore.

698
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: You know, guys they know those cameras everywhere, and if

699
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: they're going to be stupid, they're careful stupid, whereas back

700
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: then that just wasn't the case.

701
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: It's the information era, you know, Like these guys are

702
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: smarter now a lot back in the day, Like you'd

703
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: have like five or six guys that ate steaks with

704
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: their hands, not a forking knife. Like that doesn't happen now.

705
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: You see, like your linebacker he's eating a filet mignon,

706
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: like with perfect etiquette, perfect right, you know, I think

707
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: he must have youtub it or something.

708
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Really like two thousand and nine, right before then, Ivan Johnson,

709
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: who didn't end up making it with us. He played

710
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: with the Hawks for a couple of years. The guy

711
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: I called him Ivan Drago, but he had no idea

712
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: who that was, and he would he literally would just

713
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: for shits and giggles, beat the beat the hell out

714
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: of people. And then he went to like Taiwan or

715
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: the Philippines and play or Korea and just just destroyed

716
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: somebody and was booted from all leagues forever. And I

717
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 3: haven't heard from Ivan since. But yeah, it's you don't

718
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: have those guys anymore than thugs.

719
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: He was last playing in the Philippines in twenty seventeen.

720
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: Is that what it was?

721
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Ivan, Yeah, there you go, Ivan, Let's

722
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: get over to the main event. The average Jackie.

723
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Mark, you might have to help me with

724
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: this one. You know better than me. But I was

725
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: going through watching this stuff like this team with all

726
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: the guys, the Jason Terry's, the Deshaun. I forgot how

727
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: good Deshaun Stevenson was in this series and that it

728
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: was Oh my god. He was torturingate from saying the

729
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Jet Terry, I love.

730
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: The Jet Jet Jet.

731
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

732
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: Just talked to him yesterday.

733
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, he's with Is he with Arizona still? Longe

734
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: utah utah Okay, that's right. And he was assistant but

735
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: old veteran group yep. That was kind of the not

736
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: coming into this yep, third seed in the West, kind

737
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: of like everyone kind of said, flew under the radar.

738
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: And we had a lot of injuries too. I mean,

739
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: people don't realize Roddy bau Boah number three, he was

740
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: like our young speed demon. He got hurt. Karan Butler,

741
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: who's now with the heat, he got hurt. He was

742
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: our number two score and we were literally like twenty

743
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: nine and three after thirty. It was just insane or

744
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: twenty nine and five something like that. How good we were.

745
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Then Roddy Koran get hurt and then Dirk gets hurt too,

746
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: and we lost six in a row, and people were like, oh,

747
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: it's over for these guys, it's over. But we got

748
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: we went on this West coast road trip I'll never

749
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: forget where we were just getting blown out by twenty

750
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: twenty five points every single game. And it was after

751
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: the All Star break if I remember right, and it

752
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: was just like we were not like in high spirits

753
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: at that point.

754
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how do you deal with that in in

755
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: your sport? Because we you know, in football, we only

756
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: have sixteen games, seventeen games. Now, we'd lose a game,

757
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: we'd come in the building the next day and it

758
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: was like a fucking funeral.

759
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: Well it's still it's the same in the NBA. But

760
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: if you guys have like you go on games once

761
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: the next in the playoffs, it's definitely like that. But

762
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: even during the regular season, like you get on the

763
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: plane and it's it's a funeral, right, but then prett,

764
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: next practice or you know, next game you got to go?

765
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: Comes with leadership, Yeah, it does.

766
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: And and speaking of leadership, what's your best Dirk story?

767
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god that I'm allowed to tell.

768
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: We love whatever this is.

769
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've you know, I've had a lot

770
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: of fun with Dirk.

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: You're going to Germany with them?

772
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: No, I have not been to Germany with Dirk.

773
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Have not Octoberfest.

774
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: He's invited me. Yeah, I did a october Fest with

775
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: Dirk when his sister got married, but it was in

776
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: the US. Dirk. So, okay, yeah, I'm gonna tell I'm

777
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna fix the story that Dirk told at

778
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: his Hall of Fame introduction, right, so his enshrinement. So

779
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Dirk gets up there and he talks about how when

780
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: I first bought the team, we played one on one,

781
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: which is true, and he says, yeah, I dunked on

782
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: his head and he quit, which is true. But what

783
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: he did say is I scored the first two buckets

784
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 3: and I quit because I was up to one. So there,

785
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Dirk take that.

786
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: This year games with names Mark Cuban beats Dirk.

787
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: I have it on video too.

788
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: So you can't dunk on a guy that's not elite,

789
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Yes you can.

790
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: I don't care. I've been dunked on so many times

791
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: in my life.

792
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: And then I'd be remissed if we didn't talk about

793
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: the road to the finals. You beat Kobe, you beat Durant,

794
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: you beat Lebron, you beat Duell. That was in the finals,

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: but Kobe Durant on the way to the fire that.

796
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: First round against Portland, right, we were up two oh

797
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: maybe no it was two oh. And we go to

798
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: Portland and we're up like twenty four at halftime and

799
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: Brandon Roy, who could barely walk at the time but

800
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: it was just incredible player, came back and literally took

801
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: us and that made it to one, and I think

802
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: they tied it to two. But that really made us

803
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: come together and when we won that series, that really

804
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: built our confidence.

805
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes those come from behind or those losses that I saw.

806
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: Like for us, it was in twenty fourteen. We went

807
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: on to win the Super Bowl. That year, we went

808
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: and lost to the Green Bay Packers, and it was

809
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of like it was kind of like a basketball

810
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: trip for us. We went directly from Green Bay to

811
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: San Diego, stayed a week in San Diego, which we

812
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: don't do that. You can usually go back and forth.

813
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: But it was such a gelling moment from us for

814
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: us after that loss in November to come back play

815
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: in San Diego. We all were together in that area.

816
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: It was like the first time.

817
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: You don't know what it takes, right, don't because you know,

818
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: you got fifty three guys, which makes it ten times

819
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: harder and you barely get to know any of some

820
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: of them, you know.

821
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: But you know, and it's constantly revolving, right, just like

822
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: you guys, You guys are getting those ten day contracts and.

823
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Changes, but not as much as like you guys, right,

824
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: it's like, who were you with us? You know? It

825
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: takes time because when there's only fifteen guys, everybody's got

826
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: their own the veterans that they got their own personalities, right,

827
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: and they've got their own history and they've been through

828
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: it enough where they want to win. But it takes

829
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: time for everybody to get the rolls down. And we

830
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: got we got all that together early, and then the

831
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: injuries come along and then you know, we're still there's

832
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: stilled with some uncertainty. Then we get to Portland, we

833
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: get whooped on that comeback and it was like, okay,

834
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: this is what we got to do. We cleaned it up.

835
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle was great about it, figured it out, and

836
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: then boom, we just started rolling rolling. It was insane.

837
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: You guys swept the Lakers.

838
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember going into that series going, oh shit,

839
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: this is the two time defending champs. This is gonna

840
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: be tough.

841
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Now. Now we're full anti Laker podcasts. Okay, pro Kobe

842
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: podcast we love called anti Laker just any there with you?

843
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Any Kobe stories.

844
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Kobe and I would text back and forth more like

845
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: towards the end of his career.

846
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: He's picking your brain for entrepreneurs.

847
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: Well, no, I would. I would give him shit. I'm like, okay,

848
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: now that you're retired, and I remember when he retired,

849
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, now you're on mar turf. I'm gonna

850
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: kick your ass, but I'm happy to help you if

851
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: you're willing to accept the requirements. And yeah, yeah, yeah,

852
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, And and you know we got We weren't close,

853
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: but we got to be friends.

854
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: I remember he came and spoke to our team. We'd

855
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: always have some speaker in the off season. And the

856
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: amount of knowledge that came out of his on a

857
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: wide range, not just competition, not just sport, but like

858
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: how he educated himself in like multiple different facets of

859
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: life that I could speak like four languages, which insane,

860
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, like he was a he was a brilliant guy.

861
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah he knew, I mean felt that when year around him.

862
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: For sure. I mean he knew that he was going

863
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: to play to hes forty at the oldest right and

864
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: he was gonna hope so, you know, heartbreaking now, but

865
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: life is a little much longer, you know, when you're fortunate,

866
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: and I think he wanted to prepare for that.

867
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we got to pour a little out for

868
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: Kobe of the p h By the way, I'm not

869
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: a pitch guy, but you know, this water brand is

870
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: my water brand, and we are taking it.

871
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: I'm just choking, but I think I saw this on Amazon.

872
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on Amazon because it's great water.

873
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: I think they had a special on because I think

874
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: I bought like two eight packs. Are they like an

875
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: eight pax?

876
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got him in eight packs.

877
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: When we're done, I'll look on my Amazon because refrigerator.

878
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna send him to you. Even better,

879
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: even better if free will give you three You learned

880
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: all right? So you notoriously went dark? Yeah on social

881
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah you're social guy zero dark thirty. We all heard

882
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: from Lebron. So you're the real pioneer of shutting it

883
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: all down for the playoffs. Yeah, for sure. What you

884
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: had to get into mindset, you had to let everyone

885
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: know you were focusing up.

886
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm stupid, stitious and so stupid. You know, I've

887
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: been talking all the other ones and had to work

888
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: for us, So I'm like, I'm just gonna shut the

889
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: fuck up. And when we won the first series, I'm like, Okay,

890
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: it's working. Then the next it's working again. I'm not

891
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: gonna say a word. And you know, I don't know

892
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: about you, but I have so many routines that I'm

893
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: just stupid stitious about. Like if you watch me from

894
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 3: the first game of the first series. Up until Game six,

895
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: my face bloated like this because my thing was, Okay,

896
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: if I take a sip of the of my diet

897
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: coke at the right moment, we'll score.

898
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: And if I.

899
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: Take my diet coke and put it down the exact

900
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: right spot that we'll get a stop. And obviously it worked.

901
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: So I just kept on doing.

902
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: What's the record for dCas in a game?

903
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: Oh, I have no idea, there is no lie. I

904
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: would just give the guy a hundred bucks to say,

905
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: just come. And so I have so many like where

906
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: I sit, where my arms go, this on that. Still

907
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: to this day, I was.

908
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: The same way. I was very superstitious. Pregame what you eat,

909
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: when you eat everything, you have all routines, getting to

910
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: the stadium early, like everything had to be tailor.

911
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: Just reduces the stress because you gotta, you know, just

912
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: sitting there, like you said, I can't do anything, so

913
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: I gotta distract myself.

914
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Game breakdown, Jackie.

915
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Like we said earlier, Dirk started cold, Lebron started hot,

916
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: back and forth all first quarter. Then when I thought

917
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: was interesting, MAVs got their first double digit lead of

918
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: the whole series in the second quarter of this one.

919
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: Was that the whole series, the whole series, back and

920
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: forth all series and then of course the NBA a

921
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: game of runs. He'd come back, uh kill that twelve

922
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: point lead. Then we got a little scuffle before the half,

923
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: which I love to see. You don't see scuffles in

924
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: the finals anymore, which I mean no.

925
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: But when when you're the you know, the favorite saying

926
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: things aren't going so well, there's always scuffles.

927
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: It was Shawn and there mixing it up.

928
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: Sean. Shawn's a beast. I mean, I mean, who else

929
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 3: has got Abraham Lincoln on their neck?

930
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Now? Now? Forgot about that as an owner when you

931
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: see these because there's there's a lot of owners that

932
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: probably say, look at these guys are out there fighting,

933
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: like does it fire you up? Did it fire you up?

934
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course?

935
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Or is it like what are we doing? No?

936
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: I mean unless it's going to cost us a technical

937
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: in a close game, right, but Noah gets me fired up.

938
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: We'll talk quick. Another quick story. When I first bought

939
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: the team, right We're in Reunion Arena and I hadn't

940
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: known the team probably ten games, and we we had

941
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: this thing where if the mav scored one hundred points,

942
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: everybody in the fan, all the fans in the arena

943
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: got chaloupa free chiloopas from Taco Bell whatever it was.

944
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: And so one of our guys, Gary Trent, even though

945
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: you know, because kind of NBA unwritten rules are, if

946
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: you're up at the end, you don't go for that

947
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: last bucket. You just let the clock run out. One

948
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: of our guys. The fans are going chah loopah, cha loopah.

949
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: So Gary Trent throws it up there to score, right,

950
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: and I think it was Oliver Miller. Somebody throws them

951
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: on the ground and is on top of them. And

952
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm standing there because the game's over and we're expected

953
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 3: just to want I run out on the court while

954
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: they're they're still playing while all this is going on,

955
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 3: and you should see the look on the ref's eyes

956
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: and to try to stop me. And I realized, Mark,

957
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: these guys are a whole lot bigger than guys you

958
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 3: ever played with. So get your ass back.

959
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: But you got to keep the customer happy. They want.

960
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: Entrepreneur one on one, Yeah, no stupidity one on one

961
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: with both of those guys are two fifty and up.

962
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, so you were always on the you're always

963
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: on the bench. Yeah, I still do and it's still

964
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: on the bench.

965
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: I just pulled it up from the headline in the

966
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: Washington Post from the next day, Cuban punished for part

967
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: in Chiloupa Melee classic.

968
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: Oh my God in the Washington Post of all places. Whoa,

969
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: that's funny as hell. What year was that?

970
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: That was from February seventeenth, oh one?

971
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, right when I bought the team.

972
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: Jeloopa Melee. That's Chiloopah Melee. Now, when you're on the

973
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: sideline or the bench football, like, are you in there?

974
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Like are do you? Are you saying anything to the guys? Yeah? Yeah.

975
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: When coaches got him and he's drawing up a play,

976
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: are you over there? Well, because like, hey, why don't

977
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: you let's do this play?

978
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: No, but like I'll talk to the guys, Like because

979
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: the guys who are in the game right, they're focused

980
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: on the you're not listening to me and I'm not

981
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: talking to them. But guy just comes out of the

982
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: game and it's like, hey, you know, just reminder this

983
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: guy does this or whatever. And guy, I mean, I'm

984
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: not I don't yell at guys and saying you shocked.

985
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: Da da da da da. It's always encouraging and positive

986
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: nine percent of the time.

987
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: And then being on the bench, you're like one of

988
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: the first owners to like get to be involved.

989
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm screaming a yelling.

990
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: But the celebration when you guys win, Oh, that's the

991
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: best part.

992
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best part, you know, because when there's

993
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: like just one possession left, right, nobody just sits on

994
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: the bench where they're supposed to be. Everybody stands up

995
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: right at the sidelines right in anticipation of what's going

996
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: to happen, and everybody's holding their breath and that ball

997
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: is in the air, and if it misses, it's like

998
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: ah da da da, see ya da da da, And then.

999
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: What goes in I'm sprinting on, I'm getting in that

1000
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: pile on. Absolutely, absolutely, that's the best part.

1001
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: As a player, that's that's awesome when you see your

1002
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: owner that is that passionate about the team the game win,

1003
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Like that's what you want to play for, you know,

1004
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: that's that's something that you should you know. Look, I mean,

1005
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: as a player, it's just awesome to see the owner.

1006
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: It's not even about being the owner. It's just part

1007
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: of the team being a computer, the competitor, right computer.

1008
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: It's just like if you're not in the game as

1009
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: an athlete, it's it's different, but just every inch of

1010
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: my bean is caught up on what's going on in

1011
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: that moment, right There's no Okay, there's another game. There's

1012
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: none of that with me. It's just like every it

1013
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: could be, you know, other than preseason games, game one,

1014
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: game forty, game eighty, whatever it is. I'm all in, yeah,

1015
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, And.

1016
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: That's a beauty about sport because like with with our face,

1017
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: with our organization, when we won, it wasn't just us

1018
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: winning as players, it was the people that were serving us,

1019
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: the people that were saying as the organization, you know

1020
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, the organization, you know, every ladies that

1021
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: are helping you out everyone, but did their job to

1022
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: help us win.

1023
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: People don't released in the NBA. You lose money. You

1024
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: make more money when you have a bad team than

1025
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: when when you win a championship because you're buying rings

1026
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: for everybody, and those rings were expensive.

1027
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I got a few of those bad boys the aftermath. Yeah,

1028
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: take us through the night a live We all have

1029
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: everyone's got a story at liv what by the way,

1030
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: what a great place to win a championship?

1031
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Miami? Miami, well especially there are so many MAVs fans

1032
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: that have gone down there that by the end there

1033
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: you know, the chance were let's go MAVs, which was

1034
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: just so much fun. And then Jet was like, we

1035
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: got to go out. We got I'm like, Dirk, yeah,

1036
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: we got to go out, right, So we we wrangled

1037
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: up a party bus somehow some way and went a championship,

1038
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 3: just won a championship, right, so we're like going to live.

1039
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, cool, let's go.

1040
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: First time there? No no, no, no.

1041
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: Perfect spot right because I had to scout and so

1042
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 3: we went and oh boy, it was. It was a night.

1043
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: What's your best what's your best celebration memory?

1044
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: Well, the first part was my card getting declined when

1045
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: we went to buy a big bottle of Champlaine champagne.

1046
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: That was insane.

1047
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 7: So didn't call the accountant to let him know you're

1048
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 7: in Miami, a purchase the bottles will get you.

1049
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: Like I had changed my my MX card for whatever reason, right,

1050
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: and they came up to me like Mark, we've got

1051
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: this huge bottle of ace of Spade, not a Spades

1052
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and no, it was as Spades and

1053
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: it was like one hundred and forty grand and they're like,

1054
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: do you want it? And Jerk's like, yes, he wants it,

1055
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, yeah, let's get it. And then

1056
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: ten minutes later go buy and there's nothing, and Jerk's like,

1057
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: where is this? Come on, Cubs, where is it. I'm like,

1058
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: let me find out. Then two minutes later, you know,

1059
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: it's one of those mister Cuban went from Mark to

1060
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: mister Cuban, can we see you back here for a minute?

1061
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: Like your card was declined? I'm like what. I'm like,

1062
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's get americans Express on the line. And

1063
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: we call American Express and the lady said, I'm sorry,

1064
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: I can't approve it because it's just you know, you're

1065
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: at a club, it's one hundred and four thousand, You've

1066
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: never bought anything like this. We just changed cards and

1067
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: it's fraud detection. I'm like, can I talk to your

1068
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: manager and they're like, yes, sir, and he's like, how

1069
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: do I know? This is Mark Cuban and dah da

1070
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: dah I'm like, were you just watching TV? Did you

1071
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: see that we just won a championship and I'm trying

1072
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: to buy a bottle of champagne? You know, just go

1073
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: on whatever? It was, right, And so they finally approved

1074
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: it and I got my one hundred and forty thousand

1075
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: dollar bottle of champagne.

1076
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: Did you keep that bottle of champagne for?

1077
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: I wish I had. I wish I had. We gave

1078
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: it to somebody that was there who can at.

1079
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: Least you know they're protecting you.

1080
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly.

1081
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: Kind of like goddamn airport. You know, you tussle every

1082
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: time you have to go, and you're like, thank god

1083
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: they're checking. Ye. How special was it to get Dirk

1084
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: and Jason Kidd a title for their like.

1085
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: Really really important because you know, Dirk had just been

1086
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, criticized relentlessly about how he couldn't win the

1087
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: big game.

1088
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like the best player. He had that stigma.

1089
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: He was the best player in the league that couldn't

1090
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: win it, yep.

1091
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: And so I was happy for him. And Jay Kid

1092
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: was thirty eight, you know, he needed it and wanted it,

1093
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: and they just busted their ass and so yeah, I

1094
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 3: was happy for.

1095
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: Both of them. Jason kid coming back.

1096
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: It was nice.

1097
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'm from the Bay Area

1098
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: and so he's an Oakland was he was a legend.

1099
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: He was, he was a legend. Is Dirk the best

1100
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: euro of all time?

1101
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Now Jokic is going to be up there with

1102
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 3: him when it's all said and done. But Dirk, without question,

1103
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: right now is number one guy.

1104
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: What about Luke?

1105
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: Luca is going to be there too, for sure. I

1106
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: think Luca has a chance to be a lot better.

1107
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: But it's going to come down to Luca versus Jokic

1108
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: for the best Europeans of all time.

1109
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: No, you've hit, You've struck. You struck oil twice in

1110
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: your own Like how does that? You know, how does

1111
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: that work that you were you? Is it lucky because

1112
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: you were the first, like Dirk was like really the

1113
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: first European that like dominated. Yeah, and I'm talking about

1114
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: like there was always a couple of.

1115
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 3: Good players, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, game changing players.

1116
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: That's just on Dirk, right, Dirk just worked his ass off,

1117
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: just his the amount of effort he put in, like

1118
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: during the season, no sugar, no fried chicken, you know,

1119
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: nothing fried right, no alcohol during the season, and he's

1120
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 3: just that committed and fortunate. A lot of that now

1121
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: is starting to rub off on Luca and they're really

1122
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 3: close friends. So it's cool to see.

1123
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Is a Jim was very particular? Was engineering.

1124
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: Nice dry the.

1125
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Did the heat live up to the hype?

1126
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean obviously they won. They won again. They

1127
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: won three, I think, Yeah, so more power to them.

1128
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: That was it was cool to be take him down though, Yeah.

1129
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh no, Hey, I loved every minute.

1130
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: That's the best. That's that's insane. Jack. Did we miss anything?

1131
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: We're pretty good. But I gotta give a little shine

1132
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: to my man Yon me emy buzzer beater in this game.

1133
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 3: I saw Yan at the Hall of Fame and Shrineman.

1134
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Yan hit one of the biggest shots, right Yeah, end

1135
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: of the third quarter, maybe just an elbow jumper like

1136
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: and you could just see the whole arena and the

1137
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: and the Miami bench just the air came out when

1138
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: he was the later. Yeah. And another time he hit

1139
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: like two clutch free throws.

1140
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Too underrated guy, ye, Mark. I don't ask much of

1141
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: our guests on here, but this season, could you bring

1142
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: back the MAVs football jersey?

1143
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just telling you right. The first one is City.

1144
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: I designed those way back and I love those things.

1145
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 3: That we sold out and then I don't know what happened,

1146
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: and so I had them do it again and I'll

1147
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: have it probably work for the opening game. It's sitting

1148
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: in my closets. Com you guys do like, uh, you know,

1149
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: I love it. You asked that question, Jack.

1150
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like tell you they they they've

1151
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: done those whole social media where the basketball team and

1152
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: the football team they do like they do like a

1153
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: photo op of you know, the Boston Celtics wearing the

1154
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: Boston Patriots that we should do like a we should

1155
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys.

1156
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: We've done a bunch of stuff.

1157
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: We've done that.

1158
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, not not quite to that extent, but that's actually

1159
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: a good idea. You know, show support for each other.

1160
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: It shows support. But I can also see you know,

1161
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: owners and owners of different leagues.

1162
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: No, Jerry and I get along great.

1163
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you guys took it to another level. You

1164
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: put one on the team.

1165
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fun. I'd actually when I met Tony

1166
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: we were playing pickup and he came up to me afterwards. Hey,

1167
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: Mark just wanted to produce myself. I'm the backup quarterback

1168
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. I mean, I just thought this guy

1169
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 3: can hoop, right, he was really good, and I'm like, oh, okay,

1170
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: it's nice to meet you.

1171
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: And then was he just dishing?

1172
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: Oh he could score, he could do it all like

1173
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 3: he was like him and Kron Butler were all all

1174
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: Wisconsin State, all start.

1175
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: Tony's a stud.

1176
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's a hell of an golf He's

1177
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: a hell of an athlete. It's good, dude.

1178
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Speaker 1: Now, this is games with names. We like to name

1179
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: the game. This one's for Dirk. Okay, the first one

1180
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: is the sweetest. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

1181
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: I'd say this one's for Dirk.

1182
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: This one's for Dirk. This one's for Dirk, kind of

1183
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: like when they remember when Broncos.

1184
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: Maybe not where you say it, but this one's for Dirk.

1185
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1186
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1191
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1205
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Speaker 1: Not a fat guy, but just check me. Let's uh,

1219
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Speaker 1: let's let's score the game. The stakes of this game

1220
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: zero to ten? What are the steaks for me? Ten? Ten? Yeah,

1221
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: you can't. I mean you never want to get it

1222
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Speaker 1: to a game seven.

1223
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Speaker 3: No, No, you never know, because anything's possible.

1224
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: When you got them down, you break their neck, throw

1225
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: them away, throw them away, star power.

1226
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Speaker 3: Well, obviously it was the heatles, right, so that was

1227
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: as big as you can get back then.

1228
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: So and then you guys also had Jason Kid or yeah,

1229
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: of course yead Jet.

1230
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: So I mean everybody was watching because everybody wanted to

1231
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: see what would happen, and it was you know, I

1232
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: didn't feel bad for him, but it was just like

1233
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: everybody was rooting for us and against the Heat, so

1234
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: we were the underdogs that everybody was rooting for.

1235
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: So ten ten.

1236
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: Gameplay probably an eight eight, yeah, because there was some

1237
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: ugliness in the first half, end of the first half,

1238
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 3: and it wasn't a pretty game until the end. Jet

1239
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: hit a big three from deep Dirk did his left

1240
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: handed layup. Yeah, so I'd say gameplay was it wasn't pretty.

1241
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: But the name, this one's for Dirk, this one's.

1242
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: For Dirk, this one's for the dirty Heat defeat.

1243
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: So what do you think we name it or what

1244
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: do we do? We score it on the name?

1245
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: Well, the way you said it a six, the way

1246
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 3: I said I said it at ten? Ten I said it,

1247
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean.

1248
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: The middle of eight. Should we meet in the middle

1249
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: of eight?

1250
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: No, let's go ten, Let's go ten. This is this

1251
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Speaker 1: is you. This could score out to the best game

1252
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Speaker 1: we've ever done in the history.

1253
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm not stupid. It's like, if I give myself low scores,

1254
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: it's never going to score as the best game. But

1255
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: who's at the top of the leader board?

1256
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you mathematician?

1257
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: Were you doing I can add, I can add an average.

1258
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Speaker 1: Ye, where's it? Where's the line up? Jackie?

1259
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Speaker 2: This is taking the number one spot, number one, beating

1260
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Speaker 2: the eighteen and one Patriots Giant super.

1261
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Bowl eighteen and one giant loss.

1262
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Speaker 2: Anything to not make that number one. I'm happy with.

1263
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Speaker 1: I am too too well, Mark cubes Cube, whatever you

1264
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1265
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Speaker 1: want me to be come an owner. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: What does that do? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They just tell me that it's useful.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of that kind of stuff for our

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Speaker 1: women listeners.

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Speaker 3: But they tell me they like put it right next

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Speaker 3: to their bed like Eminem's and it's beneficial. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe their wives put it there, I don't know, or girlfriends,

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Speaker 3: happy wife, happy life always.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, you got it. Well, that was pretty pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Our first owner, a billionaire own I know what a

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Speaker 2: cool guy rolled.

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: Up just chilling by himself, by.

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Speaker 2: Himself, no entourage, no handlers.

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Speaker 1: What a guy, billionaire just rolling up by himself nothing.

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Speaker 2: That was so cool.

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Speaker 1: Sweatsuit chilling. I'm picking. I don't care, I just care.

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Speaker 1: He just he just he just got that. What's the

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Speaker 1: cheapest top ten business school?

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Speaker 2: I'm going there, Indiana, sign me up.

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Speaker 1: And sign me up. That's he was a cool dude,

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: cool guy. The Chiloopa story was.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, causing mayhem for Chiloopa's.

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Speaker 1: Patriots ever do something like that, like a Papa Gino's

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Speaker 1: or something, you get a sliceos.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember off top. We gotta do some digging

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Speaker 2: on that one, but I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that our pizza for a while was a Papa Gino?

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Speaker 1: I think it was. They may have changed it though

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Speaker 1: they used to be in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: No, wouldn't our guy, Our guy, Sammy Biggers was in

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Speaker 2: Papa Gino's commercials for a little while advertisements, Yes, Sam,

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Speaker 2: Sam Biggers.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Oh D'Angelo sorry DiAngelo Sandwich. I always drove by

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: one and never got it. Thought about it though. I

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Speaker 1: feel that, you know, I feel that. Can we talk

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Speaker 1: about our scoring system?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for today's post game segment, post interview segment, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a little breather and revisit the scoring segment,

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01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: sort of have a a state of the Union. Come

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01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 2: to Jesus if you will, on the way we've been

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Speaker 2: scoring these games. Because we talk about him with all

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Speaker 2: the guests and they can see the rankings and it's

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: they're all over the board, all over them.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's Mark came in and Brick is

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Speaker 1: our integrity.

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Speaker 2: Mark came in and was given tens all over and

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna argue with Mark, Like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, argue Mark.

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Speaker 2: He can't argue with Mark cuban in. I mean, no

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01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: matter what house you're in, he's in our house. But

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: we'll let him cook. But that means we gotta take

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: a little step back every now and again. Look at

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: some of these.

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01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: He just cooks and he leaves. Who's fucking doing the dishes?

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Speaker 1: We are?

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Speaker 2: We are putting your game number one overall over the

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01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: brand ski in Peterson. Come on, man, I think we're

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: in and within this number one number one that put

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Speaker 2: it out smart.

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Speaker 1: See that tells me he's a marketing guy because he

1355
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: knows how big games with names is and he wants

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: us right at the top. So every time we to

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: talk about his team, every place's just doing chess when

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: we're doing I'm playing like over checkers.

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a part of me is over here happy

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: like oh fucking eighteen one gets dethroned, but now it's like,

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01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, twenty eleven finals, Dirk like the dirty

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: dirty dirt getting one that's so whack and and Kyler,

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: I think who who we know is is all over

1364
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: these and is calculating and running the show over here

1365
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: like this. This is a stuck in Kyler's crawl, Like

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe game play looking through this list.

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01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 8: Ten I'm beside myself and I won't be silenced any longer.

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 8: This segment needs a hard look at the mirror, just

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 8: like just look at this list the Iron Man match.

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Speaker 3: These are scripted.

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01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: This is a fake situation. It's not scripted.

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Speaker 3: I know, we love the ww it's not scripted.

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Speaker 8: Michael's is the best, but that's better than the nineteen

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Speaker 8: ninety nine Women's World Cup or the twenty eight and

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Speaker 8: three Patriots Falcons super are you are?

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Speaker 3: We are?

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Speaker 8: We just gonna stand idly by and like just stand

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 8: by this list. And I don't I don't have any answers.

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 8: I just can see the problem. So maybe we need

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01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 8: to like not cho and then like, also, okay, Pro

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 8: Bowl at the end that I think that's the best

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01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 8: ranking we have. The Pro Bowl is at the very end.

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01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 8: That's fine, But like, what.

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Speaker 1: Do how it stars?

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 8: We've got We've got the Titans and Rams, Super Bowl?

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 8: What is that thirty thirty four that with Kurt Warner

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 8: that's over the statue of Liberty Game, which is probably

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01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 8: the greatest game of all time. I'll stand on the

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Speaker 8: table for.

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Speaker 1: That statue of Liberty Game. Zimbranski, Zibranski greatest game. It

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01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: was an exciting game. So was that the year after

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Speaker 1: the USC Texas or before.

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Speaker 8: After USC is two thousand and five. That this game

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 8: is two thousand and seven, So two years after, two years.

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Speaker 1: After, because that's when Boise State they were playing. Maybe

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 1: they were they were doing. Those are some fun Bowl games,

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01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: those that those that five years that so fun. I

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Speaker 1: mean I think it's because I played in those years.

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Speaker 8: I mean I was in college in those years too,

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Speaker 8: So it does have extra value.

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: But with that USC game, we gotta get, we gotta do.

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet. It's in the mix liners.

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, all we gotta do is bring a bag

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: of Wendy's in. He'll come in. See him on all

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: the goddamn commercials. Come on, Wendy.

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 8: What can we do to make this segment productive?

1407
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: Like? What are some soft square patties because you cut corners?

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: I think Kyler raises a good point and in wanting

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01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: to put in a little bit of a system, see

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01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: I think last year or In our past episodes, we

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: would wait until the guest was gone. Now the guest

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Speaker 2: is here. We were being what I'm trying to say,

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: we're being very hospitable.

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: Yes, there he is.

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: And this hospitality is leading to a little bit of

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: a downfall in the scoring system, in the integrity of it.

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: I think because they are.

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: It's gone.

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a joke. I mean, I don't harp

1420
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: too much on it because I like the stories, like

1421
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: the friendships we make, and I like the memories we

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: get to unearth on this show. I don't I don't

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01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: worry about.

1424
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Numbers, but.

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: We do gotta.

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 2: It is a it's a fundamental.

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: Part it is. So I don't know. So here's my solution.

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: What do we do?

1429
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 8: So we we have a hotline. Now, we've got a

1430
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 8: phone you can call in. It's not live, but we've

1431
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 8: got a voice message four two four two nine one

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 8: two two nine zero.

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01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 8: If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, leave a message,

1435
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 8: keep it under a minute. Leave some message, Leave leave

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01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 8: some ideas. I think we're open to hearing. I mean,

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01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 8: maybe we just do an episode where no guests and

1438
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 8: we just take a cold shower. Look at this list

1439
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 8: and maybe rescore some games, or maybe we know who

1440
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 8: we are and maybe we we we change some stuff.

1441
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 8: But I'm I think let's have the best idea when here,

1442
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 8: let's see what the fans have to say.

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 1: Why don't we bring up a fan a fan episode

1444
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: episode Real Scorrologist.

1445
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, go through this thing line by line, do a

1446
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: little audit, crack open the books.

1447
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like the ol I R S. Yeah,

1448
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna hire fifty thousand more. So we're

1449
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna do guys, you're gonna come in. We're coming for

1450
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: justice on this case.

1451
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: No stone left unturned and you can leave your message

1452
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 2: of under one minute at four two four two nine

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Speaker 2: one two nine zero.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that was another great episode of Games with names

1455
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: of Mark Cuban. Hell yeah, man, that's pretty cool to

1456
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: have Mark Cuban in our our clubhouse. Man.

1457
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like in the team issued sweats.

1458
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: What a beast team issue saves his money?

1459
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: I like it smart.

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: We're spending all that money, you know, where does he

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: gonna make it?

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: You better us?

1463
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: Episode?

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: Geez?

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to get some for the wall. Remember, guys,

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram x TikTok and Snapchat.

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, guys. Games with Names is

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