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Speaker 1: to the show. Welcome to the snowy Orchard Park, New York.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live. A new air of field

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Speaker 1: It was like la in an alternate universe. I mean

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Speaker 1: what is going on? What is it? Because you know

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Speaker 1: Nothing really from the Bills. We are just a little

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Speaker 1: I get the Heisman Trophy stuff. I understand it's it's

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Speaker 1: a favor by just washing their hands and guys like this.

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Speaker 1: And it should have started a long time ago and

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Speaker 1: it didn't. So I'm and I listen. I don't mind

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Speaker 1: second chances. I get all of that. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I don't. I'm not saying that the guys

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Speaker 1: can never have another job as long as he lives

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Speaker 1: or can't have a life. But why would the league

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Speaker 1: do that? You know, why would they put themselves through

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Speaker 1: that just for a guy who can run with it?

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, I you know, and you can.

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Speaker 1: The circle is going to be talked. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk ourselves in circles and all this. And I

436
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Speaker 1: think the frustrating thing for me is the same thing,

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Speaker 1: and that's frustrating for a lot of people. Murph. I mean,

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Speaker 1: where's the da I mean, why don't they prosecute these guys?

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Speaker 1: Why do they need this girl to come up and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to press charges. They've got the crime on

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Speaker 1: on camera, you know, I mean, this debate it's in public,

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Speaker 1: with the public forum. Why don't we do. Why don't

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Speaker 1: we got laws for this? Why don't Why don't Why

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Speaker 1: doesn't somebody put some teeth into what we all think

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Speaker 1: is right and wrong? You know, why does this guy?

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Speaker 1: Why does it? Why does it have to be this

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Speaker 1: person over here, the girl on the floor in this video,

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be her? It should be

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Speaker 1: the guys who are in charge and have the power

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Speaker 1: to make it happen. Criminal authorities. If that's a crime,

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Speaker 1: prosecute it. Yeah, I agree. Then we don't have to

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Speaker 1: have this conversation. When he does the time legally, when

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Speaker 1: he does whatever serves his sentence, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: whatever the law says it should be, then he can

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Speaker 1: come back. We don't have to. Then he can get

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Speaker 1: he can get on with it, and so can the

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Speaker 1: rest of us. Right, hey, we had Bills news just

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Speaker 1: out moments ago. A couple of signings by the Bills.

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Speaker 1: A center offensive lineman Spencer Long. You may be a center,

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Speaker 1: he may be a guard. Spencer Long signed to a

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Speaker 1: contract by the Buffalo Bills on the street for the

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Speaker 1: last six days, seven days a week. He was cut

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Speaker 1: by the Jets a week ago. The Jets signed him

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Speaker 1: for one year as a center. Spencer Long signed to

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Speaker 1: a contract by the Buffalo Bills. The Jets released him

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Speaker 1: last week to avoid a three million dollar roster bonus

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Speaker 1: which would have become guaranteed if he remained on the

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Speaker 1: roster last Wednesday. He's twenty eight years old. Signed a

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Speaker 1: four year deal with the Jets after four seasons with Washington.

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Speaker 1: The Jets were hoping he could play center for them,

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Speaker 1: and he did, but he had to move over to

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Speaker 1: played guard the second half of the season. I remember

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Speaker 1: specifically watching the Jets Dolphins game with the week before

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Speaker 1: the Bills played the Jets last year, Spencer Long, with

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Speaker 1: a hand injury, struggled miserably with snaps shotgun snaps. I

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Speaker 1: think he had seven or eight off target shotgun snaps,

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Speaker 1: and the Jets moved him to guard. Over the half

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Speaker 1: of the season. He played left guard stay there for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Five starts at left guard

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Speaker 1: for the Jets, eight at center. Total of thirteen starts

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. Last year. He was okay at left guard,

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Speaker 1: but really struggled at center. What are the Bills do

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Speaker 1: with them? We don't know center guard. He can play both,

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Speaker 1: but Spencer Long agreed to terms today on a contract

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Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Signed came into the league as

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Speaker 1: a third round pick of Washington in two eighteen. Signed

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Speaker 1: with the Jets or I'm Sorry in two fourteen. Four

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Speaker 1: years there. Spent last year with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Long is now a Buffalo Bill. Also, the Bills

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Speaker 1: have resigned defensive back Laffi Had Pitts, who turned into

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Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive backup player. Some depth there and

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Speaker 1: a pretty good special teamer. Laffie had Pitts war number

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Speaker 1: thirty for the Bills last year. Finished last season ranked

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Speaker 1: second and special team stackles at seven for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Played at University of Pittsburgh. Pretty good player there. Joined

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Speaker 1: the Bills in two seventeen after starting with Jacksonville. Came

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Speaker 1: into the league in two thousand and sixteen. If he

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Speaker 1: had Pits as an undrafted free agent with the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and Laffie hat Pits comes back to the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: He was a free agent claimed off waivers by the

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Speaker 1: Bills in October of twenty seventeen. So a couple of

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Speaker 1: signings Spencer Long and Laffie hat Pits. Pits his back

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Speaker 1: with the Bills. Spencer Long comes over after one season

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Speaker 1: with the Jets. He's interesting Steve in this sense. Spencer Long,

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Speaker 1: who again really struggled at center for the Jets last

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Speaker 1: year because of the hand injury. We would say, in fact,

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Speaker 1: the Jets it was said, we're thinking about bringing him

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Speaker 1: back to their roster after they let him go last week,

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Speaker 1: maybe at a lower price. But at the very least,

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Speaker 1: the Bills add to their depth. They've got NFL caliber

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Speaker 1: depth now at the interior offensive line positions, which many

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Speaker 1: of us believe is one of the foremost areas of

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Speaker 1: need for this team. So Spencer Long may provide some

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Speaker 1: of that depth. And maybe you know, who knows, this

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Speaker 1: guy started over the years in the NFL, maybe he

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Speaker 1: becomes a starter for the at least he's got some experience.

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody's going to come in and I know

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Speaker 1: how to handle a pro camp, know how to handle

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Speaker 1: end games. Just he's certainly big enough. He's six he's

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Speaker 1: six listed two different places, sixty four or six five,

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Speaker 1: three eighteen out of Omaha and Nebraska. So he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's one of those big corn fed Nebraska offensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're everywhere. I'm told that he works out with

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Speaker 1: the Jeremiah Searles, who was a Nebraska offensive linement right

525
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Speaker 1: and spent. He did a couple of stints on the

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Speaker 1: show with US forty four NFL starts for Spencer Long

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Speaker 1: and I signed to a three year contract by the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Well, we'll see. They gotta get some guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna try. They gotta find these guys somewhere,

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Speaker 1: and getting it done now is a good start. He

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Speaker 1: was a one year deal with the Jets, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, I think he got his hand hurt and

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Speaker 1: it and he had that bad game against the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: where he his hand was hingered, right, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I so it's the week before they played the Bills

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Speaker 1: in November, and I'm watching that game a couple of

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Speaker 1: times on tape last November, thinking, man, what are you doing, Jets?

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Speaker 1: That guy has trouble snapping. You can't. I think it

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Speaker 1: was seven or eight bad snaps in one game. Um,

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Speaker 1: And I was sitting there watching game, thinking, you gotta

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Speaker 1: get him out of there finding somebody else, And they

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Speaker 1: did eventually. Well it's not like, yeah, what was he

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Speaker 1: gonna do? I starts snapping at left hand and that'd

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Speaker 1: be even worse, right and if yeah, so, um yeah,

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Speaker 1: Todd Bulls got roundly criticized for leaving him in there

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Speaker 1: as long as he did, and then they moved him

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Speaker 1: to left guard, which says one thing about it. They

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Speaker 1: didn't just sit him down. They kept him on the field.

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Speaker 1: So he was one of their best five offensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: At least that's what they're team. That's yeah, yeah, uh well,

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Speaker 1: I don't and I don't know whether the Jets problems

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00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: started with their offensive line or not, but you gotta

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00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: think problem. A lot of people, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought the Bills offensive line was their problem, right, So um,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Maybe maybe the It's the real snarky question

556
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: is did we just make the Jets better? Did the

557
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Bills get better? It remains to be seen. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the Jets get better. Well, they may,

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Speaker 1: they may. They may have a guy better than him,

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Speaker 1: you know, now, if they were thinking about bringing him back,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah that. I was looking this up

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Speaker 1: earlier today. Meniche Schmida when he was released by the

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Speaker 1: Jets last week. I'm sorry it wasn't it was Menich.

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Speaker 1: It was Jets News and Notes. Said they could bring

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Speaker 1: him back. There was a discussion about bringing him back

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Speaker 1: to the Jets once they get his contract down. They

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Speaker 1: paid him a four year free agent contract a year ago,

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Speaker 1: released him out of that contract and were hope. I

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Speaker 1: guess you could speculate they were hoping to bring him back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because of the way they did it. They don't have

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Speaker 1: any cap hit this year on his contract because they

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00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: recently released him when they did so, Spencer Long, it's

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Speaker 1: probably doing his own best to work the free agent

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Speaker 1: market as well. Two years in a row. What a

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Speaker 1: couple of things important here, the Bills, The timing is

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Speaker 1: a significant. We're going to talk a lot about this

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Speaker 1: and you can join us. By the way they did

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Speaker 1: it a month before free agency. Now, when free agency

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Speaker 1: opens up on March thirteenth, I would anticipate offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: it'll be high on the Bills priorities, as it will

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Speaker 1: be in the draft. But here they are, a month

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Speaker 1: before free agency getting the jump on everybody else. Now,

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Speaker 1: was there a big market for Spencer Long? I can't

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Speaker 1: answer that. But they got to jump out a guy

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Speaker 1: who's got forty four NFL starts, signed him to a

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Speaker 1: contract before he gets to the unrestricted free agent market, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I think that's important and significant for the Bills. It is,

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Speaker 1: and if for those if you're having trouble following it,

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: why can they sign Spencer Long and not some of

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Speaker 1: the other guy the free agency market. Here's what happened.

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00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: The contracts all run out at the same time. So

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Speaker 1: the guys who are actually on the teams right now,

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Speaker 1: they're not free to be signed until free agency start.

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Speaker 1: Those contracts run out and free agent market begins. So

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Speaker 1: if you're under contract with the team, and even if

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Speaker 1: this is this last season was the last year of

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00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: your contract, you're still not a free agent just yet

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Speaker 1: until another month. These other guys, now, if you get

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00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: cut by a team, you're automatically a free agent right

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Speaker 1: now today. Like Spencer Long, he was cut last week.

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Speaker 1: So that's the difference. That's why you can find some

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00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: of these guys out on the street right now. But

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Speaker 1: for most of those guys, the guys who are really valuable,

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00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: they're still on the roster of teams. They're not eligible

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Speaker 1: to be signed for another month. And that's why you

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00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: know the it's considered you know that prime time you

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00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: get the cream of the crop of the guys whose

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Speaker 1: contracts have run out, who still maybe even great players,

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Speaker 1: superstar players, certainly good depth players and role players and

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00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: stars and starters and all kinds from the you know,

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Speaker 1: the whole spectrum of good and bad players come out

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Speaker 1: when these contracts run out in a month, and that's

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Speaker 1: when the big time, that's when the frenzy begins. Really,

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Speaker 1: but guys like Spencer Long, because of his contract situation

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Speaker 1: with the Jets, it's easy to see why he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that might have had a place to play, but

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Speaker 1: because of his contract situation, didn't. And so here you've

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Speaker 1: got a chance at a guy like Spencer Long. This

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Speaker 1: last week he is a Buffalo Bill. Now, Spencer Long,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the Bills personnel needs as we approach free agency. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Bills make an early preemptive strike today signing Spencer

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Speaker 1: Long to a contract. Offensive lineman and Jerry your guy

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Speaker 1: guards slash center. But free agency just over a month away.

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Speaker 1: We want you to rank your top three Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: free agent needs. You can do it on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. You can call us up eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty locally or outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let us know

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Speaker 1: your top three Bills free agent position needs. What are

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Speaker 1: you looking for? Which three positions? And let us know

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Speaker 1: why when you call us up. Yeah, give us a

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Speaker 1: call up those numbers eight three five fifty or eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty tweeted in. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss some of this on the tweet sheet and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about Spencer Long, newest Buffalo Bill. Now we got

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. Now, how you're feeling, mister, Complain

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Speaker 1: about the weather, Complain about traffic. Why don't these other

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Speaker 1: people buy new cars? We're here until three John Murphy's

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, One Bills Live from one Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Seve task what are you laughing about? Excited?

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Speaker 1: We have a new player. I know I didn't have

645
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: my thing and I was goofing around over here. I

646
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: didn't know we were on. There's a new Buffalo Bill today. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that one of the key positions for the Buffalo Bills,

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00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: Spencer Long interior offensive line in six, five, three, eighteen

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Speaker 1: in his sixty year four years with the Washington Redskins,

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Speaker 1: the team that chose him in the draft with a

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00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: third rounder in twenty fourteen last year, where the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets. Cut last Tuesday by the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Signed today by the Buffalo Bills, Spencer Long signed to

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Speaker 1: a three year contract. Thoughts on that Thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Bills being proactive, I think it's a look. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Spencer Long is going to be a great player,

657
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a good player, Steve, But I also think it's indicative

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Speaker 1: of the proactive, aggressive approach from this group, from Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott. They don't wait around. Yes, free

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: agencies a month away, we're all setting the thing or

661
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna get in free agency. They're not waiting for

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00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: free agency. They got get a guy who's on the street,

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00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: a street free agent who has forty four starts in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, struggled last year snapping the ball with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: so there are mitigating circumstances for his release by the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But I love the fact that the Bills are so

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Speaker 1: proactive and so aggressive that Spencer Lungs out there for

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Speaker 1: a week on the open market, and the Bills signed

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Speaker 1: him and signed him to a three year deal, which

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00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: to me indicates there might have been some other interests

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00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: and the Bills say, all right, we'll make it three years, Spencer,

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Speaker 1: And how do you what do you think of that? Right,

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if it comes out that there were

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Speaker 1: no other teams interested in Spencer Long just because of

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00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: his forty four starts in the NFL. He is, how

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00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: old I'm gonna look at he's twenty eight years old?

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00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Is he going to go to the Pro Bowl? You know,

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that. But a guy

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Speaker 1: who's got forty four NFL starts signed to the Bills

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Speaker 1: today a very proactive, aggressive move, I believe by the

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00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Bills personnel department. Yeah. I agree. And it's interesting too

682
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Speaker 1: to think about what that means going forward, because even

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00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: going into the draft, you always go through this. We

684
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: have these holes that Bills fans are aware of, wide receiver,

685
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Speaker 1: offensive line, maybe get some depth at running back, you know,

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Speaker 1: all this stuff going on. Maybe an edge rusher, of course,

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Speaker 1: like everybody's looking for. But when you start signing guys

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Speaker 1: like Spencer Long, you know, and you are signing guys

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Speaker 1: at these positions in the offseason, you start thinking, well, guys,

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00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: now it's not you know, now we can think about

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: getting maybe a good player, maybe a position we're not

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Speaker 1: really we weren't really looking at before, you know, And

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Speaker 1: so when the draft rolls around, maybe it's not so

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Speaker 1: easy to pick who they're gonna take, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they can pick a better player at another position. So,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just fun to see them signing

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: these guys and to start thinking about this team coming

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Speaker 1: up this next year being better than they were this year,

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Speaker 1: and it's fun to see him jump to the head

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Speaker 1: of the class and get a guy that everybody had

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Speaker 1: a shot at. Spends not there very long. Nope, we're

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Speaker 1: talking with rich Smini, who covers the Jets for ESPN

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Speaker 1: NFL Nation. He'll be joining us at the top of

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Speaker 1: the next hour one o'clock. Find out about Spencer Long.

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Speaker 1: Also find out about Greg Williams and some of the

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Speaker 1: other additions to the Jets coaching staff that's coming up

707
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Speaker 1: at one o'clock today on the show. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts eight three fifty toll free one eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty on Spencer Long on the bill's

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Speaker 1: priorities in free agents. We'll revisit that in moment. But

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Speaker 1: there's this, Steve, this little bit of news. Antonio Brown,

712
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: who had a traffic incident in Pittsburgh, did not show

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00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: off for court today, found guilty in his absence. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown tweets this out not too long ago, thank

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Speaker 1: you Steeler Nation for a big nine years. Time to

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Speaker 1: move on and forward hashtag new demands, and Tonio Brown

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00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: tweeted that out is he letting us know? It sounds

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Speaker 1: like he's leading us out that he's moving on, right,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it sounds like. Steelers told him that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Well, you can see

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00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: that coming though. I mean that he's been I didn't

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Speaker 1: know he was that kind of guy until this season.

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Speaker 1: I agree, you know. I always thought he was a happy,

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Speaker 1: go lucky guy, loved playing in Pittsburgh, loved his he

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00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: signed the big deal. I mean, what's he got to

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00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: be unhappy about? And all of a sudden he's unhappy?

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Speaker 1: How can you? How can that happen? It's a receiver, man,

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Speaker 1: They're divis what they're divis that's what I was. Yes,

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Speaker 1: less so sort of way less much less, sort of

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Speaker 1: gave it. But you know, receivers are Antonio Brown tweets out,

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Speaker 1: thank you Steeler Nation for nine great years. Time to

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Speaker 1: move on. That makes no sense. Well, the whole thing

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Speaker 1: this year didn't make any How does it go that

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Speaker 1: bad for a guy that's that good on a team

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00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: that's that good, with a quarterback that's that good. What's

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Speaker 1: he doing? Yeah, he's sabotaging his own career. But let's

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Speaker 1: put that aside for a second. There's a team that

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Speaker 1: is in dire desperate need of receiving help. With everything

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Speaker 1: that went on with Antonio Brown this year with the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: would you consider him for the Buffalo Bills? Arguably the

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00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: most talented receiver in the NFL the last what two

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00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: or three years? Is he Should he be considered by

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills given everything that's happened in his career,

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Speaker 1: the shutdown, they refusal to what report to practice, be

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00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: ready to play, kind of walked away from his team

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Speaker 1: this year. I gotta think hard about that. I would.

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Speaker 1: My initial reaction is no, don't want him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: predicting what the Bills might do. But I'd have a

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Speaker 1: hard time with a guy with history on my roster. Steve.

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Speaker 1: I really would, I really would. I get it. Here's

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Speaker 1: what I would do. I sit down with his representation,

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00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: say what's the story, what's he saying? And then you

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: sit down with him and you say, what do you

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: say now about being out at Pittsburgh? What happened there?

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00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: What's going on? Why is that? Why did that happen?

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00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Look him in the eye, get his explanation, because you

757
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: got to know that it's absolutely unacceptable to have your

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: to be ready to play and then to not show

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00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: up to practice and just walk off on your team.

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Speaker 1: This is a team with Buffalo who got stung by

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Speaker 1: that last year, right yeah, with Vonte Davis. I mean

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00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: they're not. This team's not going to go down that

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Speaker 1: road again. You better you're Unfortunately for Antonio Brown, now

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Speaker 1: he's got some explaining to do. As good as he is,

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Speaker 1: he's got to say, listen, here's my story, and here's

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Speaker 1: why it happened in Pittsburgh the way it did. Certainly

767
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: some of it was my fault, not all of it.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't exist in that environment anymore. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: then you may be okay, I'll listen to you. Right,

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Speaker 1: But if it's just like ah Ben Ben Roethlisberger, wouldn't

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00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: he said something to me in practice and he wouldn't

772
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: throw me the ball in practice? And why would I

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Speaker 1: go out to price if it's like that, I mean,

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00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: it's like what, No, you know what, go play for?

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00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals or Cleveland or whoever else you

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00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: can find of signing. We ain't got time for that. Yeah, well,

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00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting crazy. I mean, it sounds like Brown is

778
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: trying to force the Steelers into trading him, maybe before

779
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: the free agency period begins a month from tomorrow. You

780
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: also have to marry as Thomas, former Denver Bronco's wide

781
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: receiver who reportedly is going to be released by the

782
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, older than Antonio Brown. But he has to look,

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00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: the Bill's got to consider everything, right, you really do,

784
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: even Antonio Brown, even with his transgressions last year and

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he walked away from his team, they

786
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: have to consider You've got to dodue diligence. Even if

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00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: even if you say, well you know what, all in all,

788
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: we can't do it. After all, you still got to

789
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Speaker 1: check it out because there's still a chance that maybe

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00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't all his fault. Maybe he's not the incredibly

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: bad guy he looks like, or maybe the information you

792
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: got was misconstrued, or maybe he's spending it. Maybe he

793
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: is more of the guy that you thought he was

794
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: before all this came out. But certainly you've got to

795
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: check that out. You got to find out what you

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: can find out. Give him a chance to sell himself

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: to you. And I think that's unfortunately for Antonio, that's

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00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. He's got to sell himself now.

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00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: He can't just show up and say, here's my numbers,

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Speaker 1: you know, pay me, pay me. Yeah, that's different and

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00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: so but that's you know, certainly the Bills should give

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: him the opportunity to do that if he can. So

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00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on all of a sudden today,

804
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: and they came up right as we took the air

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00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes ago. We want you to rank

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00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: the Bills free agent position needs. And we got a

807
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: couple of tweets on this from the tweet sheet. Ray

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00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Prellowood's tweets in offensive line is first, because there's more

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00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: need than there can be addressed through the draft only,

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00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: and then wide receiver for the same reason, then tight

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Speaker 1: end because a security blanket for Allen is a top priority. Well,

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00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that if I would go crazy spending

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00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: money on free agent offensive lineman when I look at

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen and free agency, yes, I think it'll be

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Speaker 1: any good ones. I don't know. I think you can

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00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: solve some free agent needs in the draft and not

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Speaker 1: necessarily in the first round, second round, third round, fourth round.

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00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: You can get a guy who can line up and

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Speaker 1: play on the offensive line, and you don't need to

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00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: spend the first round around him. And I certainly don't

821
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Speaker 1: think you need to break the bank and free agency

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Speaker 1: to get an offensive lineman who can help. That's just

823
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: my take on that, right, And they started, they started

824
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the spills, the wheels spinning with you know this signing

825
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: today with Spencil. But you know, I mean, you know

826
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Speaker 1: he's guards center. Even if he's you know, who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guys got released from the Jets. I

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00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: don't think the Jets would have released him if they

829
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: he'd have been really really really good, right, Um, he

830
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: might be really really really mediocre, you know, but given

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: the problems their offensive line had last year. That in

832
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: some spots that may be an upgrade. Plus you have

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00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff there in New York, which makes

834
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: it easier. That's that's right. You know, you don't have

835
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: to justify that so so much as you would if

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00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the Todd Bowles regime. How would

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00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: you rank the Bills free agent needs? From cheesy tweetch

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Speaker 1: this in number one in all caps, offensive lightnment number two,

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle number three. Another cornerback or wide receiver. I

840
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: think you got corner or wide receiver a little bit

841
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: low on that list. I don't know that cornerback would

842
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: be my third option here, but I do think offensive

843
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: lineman first, wide receiver second I would put. But that's

844
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: a you know, I think we're coming to the realization, Steve,

845
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: that most Bills fans believe, and I think believe correctly,

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00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: that the Bills have a lot of needs, a lot

847
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Speaker 1: of needs that will be addressed in free agency. Well,

848
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: they were a six win team. Yeah, certainly you can

849
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: say maybe they would have been seven, eight, nine, whatever,

850
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: pick a number you want, if Josh Allen would have

851
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: been healthy through the four games that he missed in

852
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Maybe they got off to

853
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: the slowest of starts in the first couple of games

854
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Then they then when Josh Allen took

855
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: over and exploded onto the scene in the Minnesota game,

856
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: hurtling people and we show it, saw his athleticism. All

857
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, defenses stood up and said, okay, well,

858
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna play this team a little bit

859
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: differently with this guy at quarterback. And then they started

860
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: to put it together and they became competitive. At the

861
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: end of the season. We were three and three in

862
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: their last six, maybe four and three in their last seven,

863
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that. That can't be right, but

864
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: they were three and three in their last six, and

865
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: they were hard to beat or harder to beat at

866
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: the end of the season with Josh playing, and Josh,

867
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: as most of us saw, got better, markedly better week

868
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: by week. There were things he did one week that

869
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: he didn't do the week before that were much improved.

870
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of optimism surrounding him. Now you

871
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: got to give him a running game and some guys

872
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: to throw it too, and hopefully the defense can show

873
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: up and be a top five defense again like they

874
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: were this year. So you call here Sean on the

875
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: west side of Buffalo. Hello, John gohand you're on the air.

876
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: How are you doing, guys? Okay good? I wanted to

877
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: ask the question, what do you guys know about Duke Preston,

878
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: the kid they got from over in Canadada, Duke Williams

879
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Who you know about him? Is here here

880
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: in town working out with the team, or he can

881
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: surprise everybody because he was what one tame label was

882
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a first round pick out of Aubury. Uh. Yeah, I

883
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: don't know if he was ever a I don't know

884
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: if he was a first round pick and he had

885
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: he had some issues off the field. They but he

886
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: did play in Canada and was a really good player

887
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: up there. He's got a big he's a big dude,

888
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: and he battles for balls up in the air. High

889
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: points him really well. Uh. As you can see now

890
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: the MSG viewers are getting a load of him right

891
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: here on some highlights that we're looking at. He's a big, tall,

892
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: lanky guy. Uh. And you know this highlight they're showing

893
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: makes it. He's making it look easy because he's not

894
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: nobody has nobody around him, but by the same separations.

895
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: And I asked, I asked, my son, who plays in

896
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Canada he has? Oh, yeah, I know him. He's, you know,

897
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: a very physical guy. He's got good ball skills and

898
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: a good catch radius. Um, he was a good player

899
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: in Canada, no question about it. And he does have

900
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: some physical abilities. Uh. He is a good signing. And

901
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I think the Bills, I think he's intriguing. We don't

902
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna look like down here, but he

903
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: certainly looked good up in Edmonton. Yeah, that's whether he.

904
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. I haven't seen many people working out.

905
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: Nobody's done an airbork. Players kind of rehabbing here. But

906
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: that's about it. Coaches and staff working out right now,

907
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't really count. It's not helping us win games. John,

908
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: thanks for taking a break. We're coming back One Bill's

909
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 1: Live from One Bills Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

910
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show One Bills Live. We got

911
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: Bills news today. They've signed an offensive lineman, Spencer Long.

912
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: We were talking about free agency. That's our topic of

913
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the day. We wanted you to rank the Bills free

914
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: agent position needs they have given us a clue what

915
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: they're thinking today by signing offensive lineman Spencer Long. What

916
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: do you think of that? What do you think their

917
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: position needs are? Give us a call. Here's a call

918
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: from Gary Anna Cell. Hello, Gary, welcome, Go ahead, you're

919
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: on the air. Hey guys, though y'all doing good? Good? Yeah?

920
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: I know on from I'm gonna do three positions. I'm

921
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: gonna rank them. Okay, there were three often intier line

922
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Johns. I think in the draft

923
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: we can we can six out. I hope so um

924
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver big time. I like to get Try Williams

925
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: from a San Diego right, I like him, Maybe Golden Tate. Also,

926
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: we need a defensive end. That's number one in my book.

927
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: We need to pass me to get pass rush so

928
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: we can create turnovers. You know it's available today. Vinny Curry,

929
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: who I always like coming out of college, Marsha University product.

930
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I think a second round pick of the Eagles a

931
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I had some good success in Philadelphia.

932
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: Was a free agent, played for Tampa Bay last year.

933
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: One season with the Bucks. Got a little bit banked

934
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: up last year. But Vinny Curry is going to be

935
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: on the free agent market. Now you would think. I

936
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: love Vinny Curry. I hope the bills and thinking they

937
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: will take a look at him. What do you think

938
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: of him? Do you know anything about him? Gary, I

939
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah, it would be a good you know,

940
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm more looking at the kid from a Detroit you know, Ziggyonza, yes,

941
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: and then obviously Warrens. But he's not leaving Dallas are

942
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: so I would think because I think he's gonna be leading,

943
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna pay. They probably would already

944
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: pain him. So maybe we get our hands on him.

945
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: That would be fantastic. Well, I've I've sat in a production.

946
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: Thanks Gary for the call. I appreciate. I've sat in

947
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: in a production meeting with Ziggyons on a couple of occasions.

948
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: He's an impressive dude. He's a thoughtful, articulate and uh,

949
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, a calm guy for you know, he's one

950
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: of those big guys who's a real you know, he's

951
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: just got a good head on his shoulders. It really

952
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: comes across as an impressive individual. I'm all about it. Ziggyons.

953
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a great player. Um, I don't know

954
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: how happy he is in Detroit. I don't know what

955
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: they whether they like him or not, or whether he's

956
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: going to be available, whether they'll let him get out

957
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: of there, But yeah, I would I jump on board

958
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: with that or Vinny Curry, either one of those guys.

959
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about Vinny Curry like you do, Murph.

960
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: But Ziggy On says a guy that I do like.

961
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. Thanks you for

962
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: your call, Gary Squeezing. One more call here, we'll go

963
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: to Chris in Buffalo. Hello, Chris, good afternoon, Welcome to

964
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: the show. How are you guys. We're good. It's a

965
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: couple of things. I just wanted to touch on. The

966
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: last guy pass rush, and Jerry Hughes has like the

967
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: number one pass rush is in the in the NFL

968
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: pressure rate, and if we just get some pressure up

969
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: in the middle of our pass rush is fine. I

970
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: don't feel like our pass rush is that bad. You

971
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: got Trent Murphy coming off that that acl, so give

972
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: him another year. But if we you know, fire can't

973
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: really pass rush that well, So we just get us

974
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: get ourselves a nice pass rusher and we'll be fine,

975
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: and then um to the free agency. I think it's

976
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: obviously offensive line. It's bad. You know, we have no

977
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: run game. We can't really do play action because there's

978
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: no run game. What do you guys think about Um Saffold?

979
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: You think he's a bit too old or would you

980
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: rather go after spain And from Tennessee or Um or

981
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: one of them? Guys? I think we'll be fighting with

982
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: the Jets for a center, so we'll probably take the

983
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: second best one there. But I'm hoping we spend a

984
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: good penny. I know we have to spend some one

985
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million over the next two years something

986
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, I'd like to see a center

987
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: and a guard and maybe even Juwan Jane from Miami.

988
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: They look like they're gonna let him walk, maybe get

989
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: him for you know, cheap. But I would like two

990
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in free agency so we could clear clear

991
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: up the offensive line. What do you guys think, christ

992
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: account today's acquisition is one of those offensive linemen Spencer

993
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Long or no? I don't you know? He ranked as

994
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: a forty seventh grade for PFF. And you know I

995
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: heard he had a broken hand or something like that. Yeah,

996
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: a bad hand, Yeah, yeah, great. Lashaw McCoy is not done.

997
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: He needs he needs some he needs some talent. You know,

998
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: he can't really come out and say that like he's

999
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: been saying it, but uh yeah, before he even gets

1000
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: the ball he's getting because thanks for your call, I

1001
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: would count Spencer Long with his forty four NFL starts

1002
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: over four seasons, I would count him as I'm not

1003
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: even gonna say significant addition. But in addition, Steve a

1004
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: guy who has played in this league. Yeah, I think

1005
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: he's well, at least I think he's good enough to

1006
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: make this roster for sure. Maybe maybe if they do

1007
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: upgrade everything, maybe he will become a backup and then

1008
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: you've got to like where they're at. But certainly he's

1009
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: a guy that you got to look at. He's he's

1010
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of experience. But I'm with you, I

1011
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: think down inside and those guys you mentioned Spain from

1012
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: the Titans and the rest of those guys down inside,

1013
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: absolutely I'm and I'm in total on board with the

1014
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: offensive line people who say that's their top top priority

1015
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: in free agency, I'm totally behind you because if if

1016
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: you get good down on the center at the center spot,

1017
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: both guard spots, and even with the tackles we had

1018
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: last year and Juwan James from the Dolphins. I think

1019
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: he can really play, So yes, I'm I'm all about that.

1020
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I think fixed the offensive line at all costs this

1021
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: season and everything will get better behind him and around him.

1022
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta take a break. When we come back.

1023
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: Rich Simini of ESPN NFL Nation covers the Jets. We'll

1024
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: see what he knows about the Bill's new offensive lineman,

1025
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: Spencer Long. We'll see what he knows about the jets

1026
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: new coaching staff as well. All of that when we returned.

1027
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It's One Bill's Live presented by

1028
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

1029
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Blow Bills Radio Network Sports. The update from

1030
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive on what has become a busy football day.

1031
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: The Bills have signed an offensive lineman, Spencer Long. Former

1032
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: fourth round pick of the Washington Redskins. Spencer Long signed

1033
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills after being released just last week by

1034
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. I apologize. He was a third

1035
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: round pick of the Washington Redskins back in twenty fourteen,

1036
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: one year with the Jets. Released last Tuesday, signed as

1037
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: a free agent by the Buffalo Bills today. Spencer Long

1038
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: with forty four NFL starts over his NFL career five

1039
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: years so far. Spencer Long signed to a contract by

1040
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills for three years. The terms not disclosed.

1041
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: Bills also resigned one of their top special teams for

1042
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: a former from last year, Lafayette Pitts, agreeing to terms

1043
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: on a new contract to stay with the Buffalo Pills.

1044
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, antnio' Brown has reportedly officially requested a

1045
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: trade from the Pittsburgh Steelers, according to ESPN. The talented

1046
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver also issued a tweet in which he thanks

1047
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Steelers fans and said it is time to move on.

1048
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers released Vinie Curry today. The eight year

1049
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: defensive end spent one season with them. It comes four

1050
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: weeks before the start of free agency. Curry now an

1051
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: understricted free agent. The Buck signed him last March after

1052
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: he'd been released by the defending champion Philadelphia Eagles after

1053
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: a couple of good, solid years with the Eagles. Vinny

1054
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Curry began the season as the bucks starting left end,

1055
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: but was sidelined for four games at mid season and

1056
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans stint with Damerius Thomas lasted just seven games.

1057
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: The Texans expected to release the receiver later today. Houston

1058
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: sent a fourth round pick in the draft this year

1059
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos just before the October trade deadline

1060
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: last year for Damerius Thomas. Teams also changing seventh round

1061
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: draft picks Kyler, Murray and Ouce yesterday. That is firmly

1062
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: and fully committed to play in the NFL, putting aside

1063
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: his baseball hopes the Eysma Trophy winner, though the subject

1064
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: of some dot connecting. His agent is also the agent

1065
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: for Cardinals new head coach Cliff Kingsbury, and that doesn't

1066
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: have a factor in the Cardinals plans. Savers play tonight

1067
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: home game number six of their seven game homestand and

1068
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: a couple of college basketball games. Jub plays at Akron

1069
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and Saint Padaventure plays at Saint Joe's. And then, as

1070
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: the update from one Bills driver, as we said, it's

1071
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: become a kind of a busy day around the National

1072
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Football League, and to join us now to help us

1073
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: sort out some of it. Frequent guests of the show

1074
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: good friend of the show is the ESPN NFL Nation

1075
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: reporter covering the Jets, thirty years covering the New York Jets.

1076
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: Happy to have Rich Semini, ESPN writer Rich Semini on

1077
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: the lane with us rich, John Murphy and Steve Tasker

1078
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us today. Oh,

1079
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, guys. Good to be here. A

1080
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, including Spencer Long. What can you

1081
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: tell us about him? What are the bills getting? Yeah,

1082
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean that was a quick turn for center. So

1083
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: the Guests released him last week. He was going to

1084
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: be due three million dollars roster bonus on top of

1085
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: the three point five million dollars salary that was going

1086
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: to come later in the season, and the Jets decided

1087
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: to move on obviously, and obviously didn't take long for

1088
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: him to find a new home. You know, he had

1089
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: a roughie year last year with the Jets, I think

1090
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: partly because of an injury. He had what we later

1091
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: found out to be a damaged a tendon in his

1092
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: right hand, the snapping hand, and it bothered him, you know,

1093
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: for a few games. And the worst game, the absolute

1094
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: worst game, was Jets at Miami right around mid season.

1095
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: I guess he banged a certain way in the game

1096
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: and had just aggravated the injury. And I counted after

1097
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: watching the tape there were no fewer than seven shotgun

1098
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: snaps that were off target, including a couple that were

1099
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: like past the quarterback, and so it was a really

1100
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: it was really hard and the thing to watch. He

1101
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: battled through it, so you admire his toughness. And finally

1102
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: he got so bad in the game that Todd Bowls

1103
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: finally pulled him out of the game, I think with

1104
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: a few minutes left in the fourth quarter. I think

1105
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: actually it was probably it probably clinched Todd Bowls as ouster,

1106
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: because the criticism for why did you wait so long

1107
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: to take him out of the game kind of really

1108
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: rallied the fan daise against Todd Bowls. But Spencer, you know,

1109
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of games and then when he

1110
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: came back, he played left guard and he actually did

1111
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: a decent job at left guards. So I think the

1112
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Bills are getting a guy who can play center and

1113
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: both guard spots. And you know, he's obviously not going

1114
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: to be at a pro bowl level at either spot,

1115
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: but I think that versatility is probably something that appeals

1116
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Yeah, you know, I watched that game.

1117
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: I watched that game a lot. It was the week

1118
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: before the Bills went to New York and beat the Jets,

1119
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: and I had the same reaction I was telling Steve.

1120
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, what are they thinking? Why did

1121
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Jets get him out of there? Clearly something's not right

1122
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: with his snaps and that struck me in that day too.

1123
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: But forty four NFL starts for Spencer Long? Is he

1124
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: an NFL starting caliber offensive Nyman? Do you think you

1125
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: know he's he's borderline? You know, I thought, you know,

1126
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I do think that Jets had some interest in bringing

1127
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: him back. They just didn't feel he was worth the

1128
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: six point five million that it was going to cost

1129
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: to keep him for the year. And uh, you know,

1130
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: is he has starting he's in my opinion and from

1131
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: talking to coaches and some people around the league, I

1132
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: think he's probably a stopgap guy. You know, he's probably No,

1133
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have the build even said, are they're going

1134
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: to play him at center or guard? Has that even

1135
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: come up yet or about it yet? Yeah? So, but

1136
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: you know he could. The good thing about Spencer is

1137
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: he can play both. And do you know, he's a

1138
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: smart guy. He's a hard worker. We know he's a

1139
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: tough guy because you know, part and part of the

1140
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: reason why he didn't come out of that game is

1141
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: just that he wanted to play through that injury, and

1142
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: the coaches, you know, led him, which I think was

1143
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: a mistake on the coach's part. Every everyone saw what

1144
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: was happening there. But so he is a tough guy.

1145
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: The Bills are going to get that said. You know,

1146
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a stopgap guy who could

1147
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: hold a fort until someone else gets in there. Yeah.

1148
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: We're talking with Rich Samini, an ESPN NFL Nation reporter,

1149
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: covers the Jets and as Adam Gasee assembles his staff.

1150
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: This staff, and I know this is from a long

1151
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: one and I've talked to all these guys that are

1152
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: he's assembling on the staff, Greg Williams and Joe Vit

1153
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: Blake Williams. This staff strikes me as something that not

1154
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: so much as a coaching staff, it is something that

1155
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: you would light the fuse on and just wait for

1156
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: it to explode. Joe Vitt and Greg Williams were on

1157
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: the twenty and twelve New Orleans Saints staff and the

1158
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: bounty gate, and they have fired shots at each other

1159
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: through the media about who was lying and who said

1160
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: this and who said that. They both disparage the other

1161
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: from a distance. What's gonna happen when they get in

1162
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: the same room and on the same staff. Yeah, yeah,

1163
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: what you're going wrong? Right? Right? Uh? Yeah, I mean

1164
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: that's that was a very visual description there, Stephen that

1165
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: that is true because you know, not only did they

1166
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: take shots at each other through the media, but you

1167
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: know in sworn testimony, you know, with Paul Tagley, but

1168
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: the former commissioner was the you know, was the arbiter

1169
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: in that case. Uh, and they you know, vit accused

1170
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Greg Williams of lying. You know, he used that word,

1171
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: He called him a liar, and he just really attacked

1172
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: his character in that testimony. And so now they're they're

1173
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: reunited on Adam Gaye's staff. And I have to think,

1174
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: and I have not talked to Adam gays You can

1175
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: bet this question will come up at the combine in

1176
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but you know, I have to think,

1177
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, he must have got both of those guys

1178
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: in a room or on a conference call and they

1179
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: were willing to bury their hatchet and move on because

1180
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: that's a serious I mean, that was that wasn't just

1181
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: a little, one time, little argument spot because as you know,

1182
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: Steve coaches argue all the time. It's part of you know,

1183
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, meetings and so forth. But this was more

1184
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: than that. So that is going to be And by

1185
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the way, Joe VI is Adam Gaze's father in law

1186
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: as well, right, so you know it'll be a fascinating

1187
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: dynamic on this staff. And Blake william he's Greg's son.

1188
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: You guys know Greg Williams and Buffalo of course, and

1189
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: you know Blake from what I was told and I

1190
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: reported this, Adam really didn't want him on the staff

1191
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: and Greg was kind of put off by that, and

1192
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I think there were some tense moments there. Blake, you know,

1193
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of a reputation for being an abrasive personality in

1194
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: the different places he's worked. But they did find a

1195
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: spot for him and the staff as a defensive assistant.

1196
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to keep my eye on the

1197
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: sideline this year as much as much as the actual

1198
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: field with these guys. Yeah, And one of the things

1199
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, Greg Williams was suspended for eleven months

1200
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: from the NFL Joe Vitt was a six game suspension.

1201
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: This is all on also on top of Sean Payton's

1202
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: year long suspension as well, So this was not just

1203
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: your right. This wasn't you know a coach is getting

1204
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: into an argument on the practice field or even get

1205
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: into a shoving match. This was something that affected all

1206
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: of their careers and was really a black eye for

1207
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: the league at the time of which had happened, and

1208
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: they were all central figures in it. Yeah, no, no

1209
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Now we know Greg. I think I

1210
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be good for the Jets. They need

1211
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: some they need some energy on defense. You guys saw

1212
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: that JEP a lot last year, and you know, especially

1213
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: the game in the Medlife was just a disaster. I

1214
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: mean that was probably the worst Jet game I've seen

1215
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: in twenty or thirty years. They had no life on

1216
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: defense and the coaches Todd and Casey Rogers guys direction.

1217
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Greg Williams a long guy's accountable starter. There's just gonna

1218
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna start it up, and I do think that

1219
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: will be a positive for the Jets. With rich meaning form,

1220
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: ESPN covers the Jets has covered the Jets for three decades,

1221
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: back to Blake Wayams for a minute. Rich When Greg

1222
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: coached here, Blake was a high school player, senior. I

1223
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: think at Clarence High School. He used to take reps

1224
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: with the Bills defensive backs NFL defensive backs during training camp.

1225
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. But I'm surprised, and I was

1226
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: always stunned by that a high school player, even the

1227
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: coach's son, taking NFL reps of practice. But I'm also

1228
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: surprised that at the young what is he thirty four

1229
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: years old, he's developed such a bad reputation. You're right

1230
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: about him being a rubbs people the wrong way, And

1231
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't realize this, but he's never worked

1232
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Blake Williams for any other team than

1233
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: a team for which his father worked, Which that's instructive

1234
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: in some way, isn't it. Yeah, I mean you look

1235
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: at it. I mean, he was the linebackers coach in

1236
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland last year and he actually called the defensive plays

1237
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: over the last the second half of the season because

1238
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: when Greg moved up through the interim job, you know,

1239
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: he handed the reins, said Blake. Then you know, I

1240
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: think it did a reasonably good job on defense. Over

1241
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: the second half of the year, and so he was

1242
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: the linebackers coach, Greg who once called Blake the best

1243
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: young coach that I've ever had my staff, even though

1244
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: it was obviously biased. But so he comes to the

1245
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Jets and you would think he'd be at least a

1246
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: linebackers coach, but he actually took a demotion because he's

1247
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: a defensive assistant. So what does that tell you right there?

1248
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think if we were up to Greg Soley,

1249
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: he would have been the linebackers coach. But as I

1250
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, Adam Gaze had to be convinced

1251
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: of this, and there was some tense moments. I think

1252
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: Greg was frustrated that he couldn't get him in as

1253
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: a linebackers coach, so they just basically created a spot

1254
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: for him. He was fired by the Rams, I think

1255
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: after the two thousan twelve season. I know from talking

1256
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: to people close to that situation. He just little things,

1257
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, nothing major. I know one time he really

1258
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: yelled at a draft prospect, you know, at the scouting combine,

1259
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: you know when they had those fifteen minute meetings, and

1260
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: in one particular meeting, you know, Blake just went off

1261
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: on one of the college kids, one of the players,

1262
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: and I know that really upset people in the ram's organization. Cool. Hey,

1263
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm Adam Gaze. Let's talk about an end for a second.

1264
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: Rich as he recovered in the public's perception after that

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Speaker 1: near disastrous introductory news conference. What did you make of

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Speaker 1: that news conference and what did Jets fans think about

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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: that now you know a month later? Yeah, that, I

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01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: mean it was amazing. I mean that was an example

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01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: of how social media has has taken over the media.

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Speaker 1: I mean the memes we were up by the end

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Speaker 1: of the press conference with that. It was. It was bad.

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean I was I was way off to the side,

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: so I did not see his very peculiar eye and

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01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: head movements during the press conference and collafterwards when I

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01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: saw some of the teams, I just was basing it on.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a very good press conference,

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01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: just based on what he said and what he didn't say.

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: He really didn't. He looked at unprepared. You know, Usually

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: the coach comes in, speaks for about ten or fifteen minutes.

1280
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: He gives you his vision of the team, gets the

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: fan basics, sed sells his program to the public, but

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: there was really none of that, and I was just

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: really disappointed, you know. And then I saw the memes

1284
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: and I saw the criticism, and it just took off

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01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: like wildfire. And so yeah, I think it was It

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: was really an unfortunate day from the Jets perspective. For

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: from a public relations standpoint, Uh, he's gonna hey, look,

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: the Jet fans will they're desperate, you know, if he

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: can win games, they will play to anybody. And I

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: think I think he's a smart coach. You know, I

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know how good a overall coach he is. He

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01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: didn't do a great job in Miami, but Jet fans

1293
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: are hungry right now and they are desperate for a

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01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: winning program. Or we're sitting here in Buffalo and we

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: signed the one of the first people that Adam Gays

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01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: cut and Spencer Long, and we're asking and really the

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Speaker 1: question for us today, for you guys, for you Rich

1298
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: is what's job one for Adam Gasee. Now he's assembled

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01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: his staff, are there, what are their thoughts on the

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: free agent market? What direction are the heading? Where where

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: do Jet fans want the Jets to team to go

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: in free agency? In the draft? Well, they're gonna have

1303
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: about one hundred million dollars in cap rooms, so they

1304
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of flexibility. I think they will be

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: in on Levian Bell. I think they'll be a quickly

1306
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: aggressive bidder for Good. It'll probably come down with a

1307
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: Grucks on one or two other teams. And they really

1308
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: want a playmaker on offense, someone who could help Sam

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01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: Darnold develop. They don't really have that guy, especially in

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: the backfield right now, so that's that's a big priority

1311
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: for them. They'll probably be linked to Antonio Brown, who

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01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, as of about a half hour ago was

1313
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: tweeting out his goodbye to Pittsburgh, and you know he'll

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: probably be traded. I don't think that would be a

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: very good move for the Jets. I just think he'd

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: be too much of a disruption. And however, it wouldn't

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: surprise me if they're linked to him somehow and they

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: got it. They get the third pick in the draft,

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01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: they think they'll come away with a defensive player. Pass

1320
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: rusher is a huge need for them. They have to

1321
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: find someone who can play on the edge and get

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: some pressure on the quarterback. They should be able to

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: get one at three if someone offers him a deal

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: to move down for I think they would absolutely be

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: open to doing that. You know, it would be a

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: reverse of what they did last year to move up

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: to the quarterback this year. They can recoup some of

1328
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: that draft capital, and I think they're all for that

1329
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: if that situation material less respect coaching for my last question, anyway,

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: you meant Donald is really the key, isn't he? I

1331
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: mean a premium draft pick for him last year, a

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: pretty good rookie year, and Adam Gays brings up his

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: coordinator from Miami, Duell Logins, to be quarterbacks coaching coordinator.

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: There do they got the right guy to sort of

1335
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: take Sam Donald forward into his NFL future? What do

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, Lagins was really the number two guys.

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01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: It's going to be gass show in terms of the quarterback,

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: even though you know the quarterback you know, title belongs

1339
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: to Logins. That's how they sold this to the Jets.

1340
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: Sam and Adam a representative by the same agent, Jimmy Sexton,

1341
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: and you know, Autumn and Sam talked before during the

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: hiring process. Sam came away very impressed and relayed that

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: to the Jets ownership, and I think that was a

1344
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: big factor in their decision for hiring at him, it

1345
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: is all about the quarterback. They hired him mainly to

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01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: develop Donald, to make Donald a star, and can he

1347
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: do it? I mean, he did a good job with

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01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, but the cynic would say, well, it was

1349
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. So you know, how you know, how much

1350
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: did you really do for Peyton Manning. I will say this,

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of people around Peyton on

1352
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: that Denver team. He did get Peyton to play at

1353
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: a historic level which he had never played at before.

1354
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: So fifty five touchdown passes in one year, so you

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01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: got to give great Gays credit for that, you know.

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: But this is the first time he's working with the

1357
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: young quarterback and he even mentioned that at his press conference.

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01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: So it's really a little bit different than working with

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: a Peyton Manning or a Jay Cutler. The Jets are interesting, Rich,

1360
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: you got your hands full with this team this year. Yeah,

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting year. I mean the

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01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: coach is a little you know, a little kokie and

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01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: the like Steve said, the coaching staff might be a

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: powder keg ready to blow. And you know, you've got

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: a really interesting quarterback. I do think they'll they'll make

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: a big splash and free agency, so yeah, it should

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: be a really interesting, uh team. I mean, now they're

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna overtake the Patriots, you know they're not. That's not

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01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: going to happen right this year or maybe or never

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: until Brady retires. But I do think that Jets will

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Speaker 1: be a better team this year. That sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah, exactly. Rich,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much tending some time with us today.

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: We appreciate it anytime, guys, take care of Rich Simini

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline presented by

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01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: Subway Restaurants proud to be locally owned and operator. Rich Somini,

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01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation Jets Beat reporter cover the Jets for

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Speaker 1: thirty years and more. What did you say the coaching staff?

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: Somebody's waiting toil like the fuse. It's just something that's

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: not what you say, either coaching football or they're just

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: something you know, you light the fuse and wait for

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01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: it to explode, you know, I mean, it's listen, they've

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of strong personalities. It's a lot like

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01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: the Cleveland's the Cleveland Browns staff from a year ago

1384
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: with Todd Hailey and Greg Williams um and Blake Williams

1385
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: is also on that staff too. Nobody survived it. They're

1386
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: all gone m Adam case now and he's bringing, you know,

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01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: a big part of that with him to the New

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: York Jets. You know, I don't know. I just it's

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: interesting too, and I for for me, and I know

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: Rich Tomini and a lot of people around the NFL

1391
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: have a different view than I do, and probably rightfully so. Uh.

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01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Levion Bell is a guy. He had

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: mentioned that the Jets are gonna be big, heavy bidders

1394
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: on Levion Bell. If that's the case, man, I don't

1395
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: think that's a smart way to go. We've seen too

1396
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: many mid round to late round running backs be really

1397
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: really good in the NFL and to get in and

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01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: throw all that captain They've got a hundred million bucks

1399
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: if they're going to throw a ton of that cap

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: money towards one guy at a position that to me

1401
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: has been a little bit devalued or at least put

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: in a position where I don't know that Levion Bell

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 1: is kind of the past catcher that's saying. Alvin Kamara

1404
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: is in with New Orleans Saints or you know that

1405
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I just don't know if that's a

1406
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: smart way to go through the Jets. I don't think

1407
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is either. You know you mentioned the Howard

1408
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: reminds you of Cleveland. There's a report out today in

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: fact that Hard Knocks, the producers of Hard Knocks and

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: NFL films, are interested in doing the Jets this year.

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: Manischemda reports the NFL films they've not spoken to the

1412
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: Jets yet, but they do have an interest in having

1413
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: them be their team and Hard Knocks this summer. A

1414
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: source tells Pro Football Talk there's no chance at that'll

1415
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: that'll take part. It's a it's a brand new coach,

1416
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: Adam Gate. So the Jets cannot be compelled to be

1417
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks team, but that'll be something. They're an

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01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: interesting bunch, they really are. Yeah they are. But the

1419
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: players they have, I mean, Darnold makes them. You know

1420
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: it could our buddy from this Adams he was great,

1421
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: he'd be a superstar on Hard Knocks. Listen he is.

1422
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: He is a great player and a good guy. And

1423
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, Jet and you know Bills fans are gonna

1424
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,440
Speaker 1: see Jamal Adams for a long time because and unfortunately

1425
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: for Bills fans, because he is a good player, but

1426
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: he's also the type of gain I've I've been around

1427
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: the ring, around the rosie with Greg Williams and his

1428
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: philosophies about leadership. U Jamal Adams is not going to

1429
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: have a really fun first couple of weeks with Williams.

1430
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's the way he works, you know, he

1431
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: kep puts him through the ringer and see who you know,

1432
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: See if the cream rises to the top. You know,

1433
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: see if the great players and the great human beings,

1434
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: and the true leaders and the truly great men rise

1435
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: to the top of the roster. And sometimes those truly

1436
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: great men head you off at the past and say, listen,

1437
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: you can forget about that. I don't need to prove

1438
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: that to you. You need to prove you to me, right.

1439
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: So then all of a sudden, Hard Knocks is Hard

1440
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: Knockses killing it in the ratings because that's a big fight.

1441
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's the Jets reportedly have no interest in it,

1442
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: but that'd be great, Oh my gosh. That yeah. Listen.

1443
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: Greg has been a very successful defensive coordinator in the

1444
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: league for a long time. He has the depth of

1445
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: knowledge and the ability to call plays, install defenses. You

1446
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: could argue Greg get a really good job of the

1447
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: Browns this year. They were he was what was he

1448
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: five and three the last eight games and a team

1449
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: that was in sixteen the year before and what two

1450
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: and six going into that or one and seven going

1451
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: into that. I don't know what it was. But Greg

1452
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: Williams turned that team around, not turned it around, but

1453
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: certainly they were better with him than they were with

1454
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. And yet we both know that he comes

1455
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: with I don't know if it's baggage, it's more than

1456
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: it's more complicated than baggage. It's it's what attitude or

1457
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: something that he has that can that can that can

1458
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's hard and light a flame, he can

1459
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: light a bomb on a team. He's hard to be around. Yes,

1460
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: he's hard to be around. And I like around him,

1461
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And we're friends of his, Yeah, but he's

1462
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: hard to be around. We sit down a production meeting

1463
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: with him as a coach of the Cleveland Browns and

1464
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: you say, you know, and he starts talking. And because

1465
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: of all the stuff that's happened to him in his

1466
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: past with bounty Gate, with being fired as a head

1467
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: coach and being bouncing around the National Football League, being

1468
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, suspended for eleven months of the year, being

1469
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: called a liar by a guy who's actually now he's

1470
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: on a staff with again. He talks so much so

1471
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: that you can't ask him tough questions, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. He just starts talking and he didn't stop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just dominates the meeting and you can't you can't

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Speaker 1: even bring up another subject after. So I worked on

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Speaker 1: him here. He did the show with him for a

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: couple of years after his Buffalo tenure, and we got along.

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: He came up here, and I think he went to

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: Washington right when he left here, defensive believes, came up

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: with Washington game at the new air of Field then

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: uh whatever it was called Ralph Wilson see him, I guess,

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: And I went in the Washington locker room just to

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: say hello. I didn't want to, I didn't have time

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with Greg. He forced

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: me to come in and sit down with him in

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01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: his locker room, defensive coordinated locker room, and took twenty

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01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: five minutes of my time telling me how great a

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: job he was doing with Washington. But that's who he is,

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and he's engaging, he's kind of charming,

1489
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: but that's who he is. You can't, as you said,

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: when he gets talking, you can't stop him. And when

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01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: he's talking about himself, it's pretty amazing. He's an interesting guy.

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01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: It'll be an interesting year. We thank rich Simini for

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01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: joining us to talk about it. I want to talk

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: more about the Bills when we return. How would you

1495
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: rank their free agent position needs? What do you think

1496
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: they need? Which positions do they need? Free agency opens

1497
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: a month from tomorrow. The Bills already time the defensive

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: lineman today, Spencer Long. That's what got us going with

1499
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: Rich Semini. He played the last year with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk more about that when we come back

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: as well. What do you think of that signing? Got

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01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: phone lines open eight O three oh five fifty and

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Come on back One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy,

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: Steve Task, You're here until three o'clock, Connor Or from

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated dot COM's going to join us to two

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: o'clock Steve talk about some more of these issues. Bills

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: made news today they signed Spencer Long to a contract.

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman spent four years with Washington, one year with

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: the Jets. Released by the Jets last Tuesday week ago

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: today and signed by the Buffalo Bills. The Bill signed

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: into a contract. They also resigned cornerback Lafia Pitts, who

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: did a lot of good work on special team for

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01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo this past year. Take some phone calls here, Nick

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: on the line from Alden. Hello, Nick, go ahead, you're

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01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: on the air. HI. Welcome guys, thank you, Welcome to you.

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01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: I s the two part question. I guess, first the

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: ranking for the free agency. I would think you have

1521
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: to everybody wants to jump on the offensive line wide receiver,

1522
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: But if you look at the depth of this roster,

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: you have guys like Wyatt, Teller, Budegger and others that

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: I think, if you give them a chance, could solidify

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01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 1: this offensive line. Then you look at wide receiver and

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: you have Foster and Mackenzie and a lot of young

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: players that if you developed them. I think if you

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: turn Zay Jones into number one, you have the cast

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: to really spread the defense. Might the number two at

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: the number nine pick? Is there a chance where we

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: maybe move out of that position and maybe, you know,

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01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: gain some capital and do what with it? I mean,

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: where do you think the Bills What personnel moves should

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: the Bills add to their roster? Well, I'm looking at

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, the free agency, and you know the earlier

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: caller mentioned defensive end, and I like Ziggyanza, but I

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: think you go after someone like Trey Flowers to maybe

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: add some versatility to that defensive front seven and maybe linebacker.

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: You look at C. J. Mosley out of Baltimore, is

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith out of Baltimore, some of these guys that

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01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: could be impact players. But also on a rocational basis too,

1542
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: because you know Alexander's getting older. You're not sure how

1543
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: how well Milne is going to come back from his injury.

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: These are these are concerning questions that I think if

1545
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: you just add one or two pieces to this roster,

1546
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna make them better in the short term and

1547
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: the long term. M That's interesting because you're the first,

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: really one of the few people we've spoken to that

1549
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: thought that you know, defensive defensive side of the ball,

1550
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: not so much just defense. I'm not some detach tackle

1551
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: or some an edge rusher, but linebacker. That's a to me,

1552
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: that's a stretch. And I don't know that you find

1553
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: too many people who will believe that Zay Jones can

1554
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: be developed into a number one receiver UM with even

1555
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: with Robert Foster on the roster, Zay Jones as a

1556
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: guy who and you know, as far as the offensive line,

1557
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: the guys you mentioned, yeah you've I mean those are

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01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: um I don't know what you're thinking. If those guys

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: like Wyatt Teller or Ike Butcker, or those guys Jeremiah Searles,

1560
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: these guys, if they struggled to get on the field

1561
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: this last season, when the offensive line of the Buffalo

1562
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: Bills wasn't able to run block and could not move

1563
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: people out of the way, I don't know if you

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01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what you see in them that makes

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: you think they're going to develop into these guys who

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: can be dominant run blockers if they couldn't get on

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: the field this year. And there's no reason to think

1568
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: Matt Balano isn't going to bounce back from a busted

1569
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: leg tip or phibia break. So I don't know. I

1570
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I can agree with you, Nick. I

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01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: just think you've got to get some guys who have

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01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: some big time upside physically both a wide receiver, offensive line,

1573
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: and I will agree with you at edge rusher, But

1574
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: for linebackers and those guys, I don't know. I don't

1575
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: know if I can go down that road with you.

1576
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: From the tweet sheet, when we asked the question and

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: what do the Bills need? What would be your free

1578
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: agent position needs for the Bills? Taylor Sharman tweet listen,

1579
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: could you see the Bills trading back in the first

1580
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: round because they have so many holes to fill, maybe

1581
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: with the Raiders for their later first round picks. Yes,

1582
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: I can see that absolutely. I could see that they

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: have done that in the recent past. I could definitely

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: see them hoping, praying, you know, maybe even with the

1585
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: news about the quarterback right Kyler Murray, maybe they think,

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01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: oh good, maybe someone's gonna be eager enough to jump

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: up to the top ten. Yeah. I almost said stupid enough,

1588
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: but eager, so eager that they think we got to

1589
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: get into the top ten to get to Kyler Murray

1590
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, that would benefit the Bills absolutely, Nate, what

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01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: I would what if there was something? I mean, yeah,

1592
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think. If you want to upgrade

1593
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: and do something big time like that, you go out,

1594
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: and I think you go into the trade market more

1595
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: so than the free agent market. You go in and

1596
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: get a guy who's really established player the team really

1597
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up and accept that they've got

1598
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: a gaping hole over here, or maybe they've got a

1599
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: great player to position and they need to and he's

1600
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: coming to the end of a contract, they don't have

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01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: the money to keep him and they want to upgrade

1602
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: in another position. In the draft, you find somebody like

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: that where you could trade the number nine pick for

1604
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: a guy like, you know, like an AJ Green or

1605
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: a Julio Jones or somebody like that, or a number

1606
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: one wide out, a guy like a Keenan Allen's type

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01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: a player. Those kind of you know, those kind of

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01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: deals are the ones I kind of would look at

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01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: to say, you know, maybe we could get a guy

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01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe you can get maybe you get a

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: couple of offensive linemen for that pick from a team

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01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: who knows, But I don't think anything's off the table

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: for this front office. I don't think there's anything that

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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: they wouldn't consider if they thought they were gonna make

1615
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: their football team better and if they got good value

1616
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: for it. So I think you can. For me. I

1617
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: think that's one thing, because it used to be it

1618
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: never happened very much, and now it usually only happens

1619
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: on draft day or around the draft, where you get

1620
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: trades happening for trades for picks and guys like that.

1621
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised or and certainly I would probably

1622
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: welcome it if they could get a quality player off

1623
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: another roster by handing him some of our assets that

1624
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: we have in the draft, or even on the roster,

1625
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: our roster. It's an interesting tweet from the tweet sheet

1626
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: from Norman says, please sign Antonio Brown. I understand he's

1627
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: got an ego, understand he's got an attitude problem, but

1628
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: look how Richie Incognito did for Buffalo. Look how he

1629
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: became a great left guard for the team and got

1630
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: us into the playoffs. Just give the guy a chance.

1631
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: It's worth it. Richie, I mean, Antonio Brown is not

1632
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: Richie Incognito. Their issues are vastly different. Richie Incognito got

1633
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: caught up in a crazy bullying scandal. He became a

1634
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: he became a national outcast really for a couple of weeks.

1635
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: We talked about it with Richie when he was here

1636
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: with the Bills and then kind of got off the

1637
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: reservation just about a year ago. Right, yea, Antonio Brown

1638
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: quit on his team. That's significant. Richie never quit on

1639
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: his team. Antonio Brown quit on the Steelers on their

1640
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: way they were playoff berth That that's significant. I'm not

1641
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: saying that automatically rules him out of consideration for the Bills.

1642
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: They got to look at it, but that's a big factor.

1643
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: That's a huge factor. I think. Boy, there would be

1644
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: some serious questions to ask and be answered by Antonio

1645
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Brown for any team that was interested in him, and

1646
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: they would start with that question, what are you thinking

1647
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: last year? Why would you do that to a Steelers

1648
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: team that's kind of on pace to be a playoff

1649
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: team and you sabotaged it, you undermined it. Who how

1650
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: can you do that to your Team's? Right? The question?

1651
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Yeah, you've you've he's and I said

1652
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: it earlier in the show. He's got to sell himself

1653
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: to every team who talks to him. What happened in Pittsburgh?

1654
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: Answer that question, and it better. It needs to be

1655
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: convincing that you're not that same thing as not going

1656
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: to happen here the first time a bumping the road comes,

1657
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: the first time a game comes around and you don't

1658
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: get a catch, Are you gonna leave? You know? Are

1659
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: you gonna become a problem or are you gonna become

1660
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: an abstraction? Are you gonna poison the locker room? Are

1661
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: you gonna stop practicing? Are you gonna not show up

1662
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: for meetings? Are you not gonna work out? Are you

1663
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: gonna do all this stuff that you've done in Pittsburgh

1664
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: that makes you expendable? After being paid fifteen million bucks

1665
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: a year to be the number one receiver on a

1666
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: team that was ostensibly headed for the playoffs, and you

1667
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: just pulled the ripcord on him, Yeah, what happened? Let's

1668
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: let's hear it and it better be good. Yeah, And

1669
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: if you missed it, Antonio Brown. With a tweet today,

1670
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver posted a message saying farewell

1671
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: the Steeler Nation after nine years. Thank you Steeler Nation

1672
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: for a big nine years. Time to move on and

1673
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: move forward, apparently kind of reaffirming his request for a trade,

1674
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: requesting to trade, he would like a fresh start. Does

1675
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: that come in Buffalo? I don't know. I would be surprised,

1676
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: but stranger things have happened. Antonio Brown says it's time

1677
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: to move on. Call here from a Joe and Tonawanda

1678
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: to go ahead, Joe, you're on the air. Hey guys, huh, yeah,

1679
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: I was. You're covering what I'm going to talk here?

1680
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: Is Antonio Brown? Do you think he might be attracted

1681
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: to us because of Josh Allen is a Roethlisberger type

1682
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: and can do we have the millions to pay for him?

1683
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: And on the worst case, uh, can New England afford?

1684
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: Thank you? Well, the Bills have the money. There's not

1685
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: much question about that. Um. Look, would we be attracted

1686
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown? I don't know anything. I don't know

1687
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: much about him other than the fact that whoever pays

1688
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: the most money is probably going to be most attractive

1689
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown. Well, they're gonna it's not gonna be

1690
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: about the money. It's gonna be about getting the rights

1691
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: from the Steelers and trading for him, right that's what's

1692
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: going to happen. How much you're willing to give up

1693
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: for an Antonio Brown? And once you get him, is

1694
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: he gonna be the same jerk here as he was there? Um?

1695
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: The one team that is kind of scary to think

1696
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: about is the Pittsburgh is the New England Patriots. That's

1697
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of guy that could come in. They'd

1698
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: absorb and they don't. They don't have to sell him

1699
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: on their culture. Their culture is successful and Antonio Brown

1700
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: has been a firsthand witness to that on the games

1701
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: that they've played, important games. Um, So Antonio Brown could

1702
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: land in New England. I mean that would be the

1703
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: team that would go out and say, listen, bring you

1704
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: in here, but here's the rules, and they would dictate them,

1705
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: and their credibility and their ability to overcome it would

1706
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: ostensibly keep him in line. You'd be the new Randy

1707
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: Moss exactly. Here's a question for Stephen. I don't have

1708
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: this answer. I like throwing these out there, though. How

1709
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: far along are the bills and establishing their culture? Certainly

1710
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: you can't match it up against the New England Patriots

1711
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: culture with all the success six super Bowls in New England.

1712
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: But have the Bills in year two Now I'm moving

1713
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: into year three of Sean mcdermot's tenure. Have they established

1714
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: their culture yet? Can you have a good team culture

1715
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: when you only win six games? Do we do this show?

1716
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: Or was this before you arrived? Down the scene? Which

1717
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: comes first? Culture or victory? It was? I think I

1718
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: was here? Yeah, Yeah, I guess that's the question I'm asking.

1719
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: Do you have an established, positive, good team culture when

1720
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: you go six and ten? I think the Bills would

1721
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: argue yes, Oh, I think they would too. I don't

1722
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: think as any question about it. That, no question. They

1723
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: need better players, but they got to get the right

1724
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: kind of players there, and they're not gonna And here's

1725
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: and I've we've had these conversations before. Certainly fifty three

1726
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: guy roster, okay, plus whoever's on IR the practice squad.

1727
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: So you got like sixty guys or sixty or give

1728
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: or take guys in the room. If you've got sixty

1729
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: guys like Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander's here's what that

1730
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: gives you. That gives you the ability to go out

1731
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: and get a guy like Antonio Brown and they can

1732
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: the locker room will hem him in and keep him

1733
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: inside the lines even if your team is not winning.

1734
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: Can the locker room do that? Well, you're gonna win

1735
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: more games with Antonio Brown than without him, right, But

1736
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: if you have Antonio Brown, and then you get also

1737
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: a Levion Bell in there, and then also a you know,

1738
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: Avante Davis or and then on top of that, you've

1739
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: got to sprinkle in a smattering of Johnny Manziel. You know,

1740
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: you can't. All of a sudden, it starts to get

1741
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: too big to handle, right, It starts to be a

1742
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: little bit poisonous. And then you've got a group of

1743
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: guys that hang out, and then they start to buy,

1744
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: and then the whole level drops. Now you're not winning

1745
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: six games, you're winning two with the same virtually the

1746
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: same roster, except with three guys, right, So, and they're

1747
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: ostensibly those three guys you brought in are better players,

1748
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: but the other fifty five guys aren't playing as good

1749
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: because of those three guys. So that's what you try

1750
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: to avoid. That's what you're trying to avoid. You can,

1751
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you can, you can. You can put your arms around

1752
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: some guys who need some help, Some Josh Gordon's those

1753
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: kind of guys. But you can't do it for five

1754
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: of them, right, You can't do it for that many

1755
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: because then it's like that becomes your job every day.

1756
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: Instead of getting better, instead of game plan, instead a meeting,

1757
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: instead of watching films, you spend your time keeping these

1758
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: guys you know, on the wagon. Right. So that's the

1759
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: way it were, and that's where your culture is really good.

1760
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: When you got a bunch of guys who were pulling

1761
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 1: the same way. The problem is stereotypically speaking, guys like that.

1762
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, you always need a couple of guys you

1763
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: just hope they show up on time. You know, you

1764
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: need a couple of those guys that they set a tone.

1765
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: They set a tone and nastiness and physicality in a

1766
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: game that demands it. You know. All right, a lot

1767
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: to talk about, Antonio Brown says to Steelers fans, thanks

1768
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: for the memories. Time to move on. The Bills signed

1769
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman Spencer Long, who's got forty four NFL starts.

1770
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? And what do you

1771
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: think are the bills free agent position needs? What do

1772
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 1: they really need in free agency, which opens up a

1773
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: month from tomorrow. Got phone lines open. We've got tweets

1774
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: for you. You can let us know what The top

1775
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: three Bills needs are eight three fifty toll free one

1776
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Steve and I

1777
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 1: coming back One Bills Live from One Bills Drive on

1778
01:27:49,680 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, murphyc Taster One Bills Live. We're back

1779
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: on the air. We're doing again tomorrow two. As a

1780
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,560
Speaker 1: matter of fact, no more no days off. We're like

1781
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots from last year. No days all right, right,

1782
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: The Bills signed it off. The Bills don't take many

1783
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: days off. They signed an offensive lineman today, a guy

1784
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: with forty four NFL starts. Spencer Long forty four to

1785
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: fifty three career games played. He started in all thirteen

1786
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: games he played in for the Jets last year. He

1787
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: was a starter. Um again and Rich Amini. I was

1788
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: glad to talk with Rich. We had him on last

1789
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: hour or earlier this hour, I guess it was. He said, look,

1790
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: he's not a Pro Bowl caliber guard. But he I said,

1791
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: as he is starting caliber guard. He said, yeah, yeah,

1792
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: which is fine. That's what you're gonna get right now.

1793
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: Right they don't three year contracts. Somebody had the numbers,

1794
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: at least guessing at the numbers. Three year contract. You know,

1795
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a Hall of Fame caliber guard

1796
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: at this point, but you're gonna get a guy who

1797
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe played in the NFL. Here's the thing that he

1798
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: wasn't worth six million bucks this year to the Jets

1799
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: as a guy who they thought probably might be a

1800
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: backup in the best case scenario, and they released him

1801
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: because he was gonna get a three million dollars roster bonus,

1802
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: and so the Bills get him for less than that

1803
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: per year. Jason knock On four kind of interrupt. Yeah, yeah,

1804
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: you know, Jason knock On four says it's three years,

1805
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars for Spencer Long and up to fifteen

1806
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: million dollars with incentives. So what are we talking about?

1807
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Four points something million a year? That going right, right? Yeah?

1808
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: Backup or guard and if he plays, he's up to

1809
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: a five million dollars a year guy. Okay, that's that's

1810
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: what he is, you know. I mean, this isn't a

1811
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: blockbuster trade, but it certainly gives you a chance to

1812
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: get some competition, maybe get better in a game during

1813
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: the season where if if guys start to get you know,

1814
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: get clipped off. You got a quality guy to put

1815
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: in there. Guy's not going to be too big for them.

1816
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: The moment's not going to be too big for him,

1817
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: you know. And certainly if he comes in and the

1818
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: and the chemistry is right, all of a sudden, the

1819
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 1: guy does play pretty good, which is I've seen happen

1820
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: a lot coming out. We'll see a year with injuries

1821
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: too right to his hand, would he say, attending in

1822
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: his hand, but he was just trying to snap them.

1823
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't stinks man. Oh that game was

1824
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: rough Sea I saw. I remember hearing about it too,

1825
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: because you know, it gets around because he's got to

1826
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: keep snapping it. Yeah, I mean, it's not like until

1827
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: they take him out. He's got to stay in there.

1828
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: And Todd Bulls guys say, bro, and I don't. Here's

1829
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: the thing, Todd Bulls, Nick, you gotta go under center, right,

1830
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: don't go in snow shotgun, just go under center. Stop

1831
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: doing that. It's crazy. It was bad. And I found

1832
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: myself watching that game Jets. I think it was in

1833
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: Miami because the Bills were at the Jets the next week. Um,

1834
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I watched a game not mad or upset about Spencer Long.

1835
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm mad about the Jets coaching step. What are you doing?

1836
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: This guy's struggling. You can't you can't ask him to

1837
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: do shotgun snaps. You probably can't ask him to be

1838
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: the center anymore. They took him out finally, but it

1839
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: took a while. Crazy lock On for has this interesting

1840
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: too about Kareem Hunt. One year deal with the Browns

1841
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 1: for the veteran minimum, no guarantees. If he hits his

1842
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: roster bonuses and workout bonuses, it would top out over

1843
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: one million dollars. And of course he'd be a restricted

1844
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: free agent next year, so not a lot of money

1845
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: for Kareem Hunt and of course the Browns. None of

1846
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: us know how many games he will play either, right,

1847
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 1: because he's in the Commissioners he's on the commissioners exemple list,

1848
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: they're going to have to complete their investigation and find

1849
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: out what they want to do with the Browns. For

1850
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: the Browns, they're risking nothing except public opinion. That's it,

1851
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: and that's a big risk. Well, I mean it's a

1852
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: big it's a big public opinion hit. I think around

1853
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: the league it is, but in Cleveland, I mean, this

1854
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: is a team that drafted Josh Gordon, drafted Johnny Manziel

1855
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: and then you know they've they've been a mess. They

1856
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: went oh in sixteen. You know, this probably seems like

1857
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: nothing to them, this PR hit from what they've been

1858
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: through in the last five years, right, So yeah, why not?

1859
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: The Kareem Hunt went to school at Toledo, grew up

1860
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: just outside of Cleveland, So you know there's that John Dorsey,

1861
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: the gem of the Cleveland Browns is the guy who

1862
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: drafted him in Kansas City, So there's a lot of

1863
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: familiarity there and they're risking nothing except this PR hit.

1864
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: The money's nothing. And for a guy who led the

1865
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: league in rushing, I would not dismiss the PR hit

1866
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: because I do think that's significant. But maybe they feel

1867
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: they can take it, they can handle it. I guess

1868
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: they think they can handle it. Tweet I want to

1869
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: read to USTe because a specific question for you, Bills

1870
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Forever tweets in. While looking at the draft needs on

1871
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: our offensive line, Dion Dawkins had real problem with penalty Steve.

1872
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: He asks, can that be coached out of a player? Yes? Yeah, sure,

1873
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: of course, you get better. Typically you don't commit as

1874
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: many penalties, right, you don't feel like you need to

1875
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: commit penalties holding in particular. Coaching matters, and that's that's

1876
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna matter, and it's gonna help him. Hell, they'll

1877
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: coach him up and he'll stop doing it, or he'll

1878
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 1: be someplace else. I mean, that's just the way it is.

1879
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: It's the bottom line business. And they what were they

1880
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: going to do last year? Bench him for who? Connor

1881
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: mc dermott, No, probably not, you know how you think

1882
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, there's so when that offensive line

1883
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: gets better, that stuff goes away quick, and the coaching

1884
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: staff has a lot to do with it, No question,

1885
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: of course, you can coach that out of him. One

1886
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: more tweet I want to get to here from Nathan Monner.

1887
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Love the signing of Spencer Long more depth. He can

1888
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,879
Speaker 1: start immediately if need be, and it opens up options

1889
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: for the draft. Would love a trade out on the

1890
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 1: number nine spots, sign another offensive lineman and bringing a

1891
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers and Thomas Davis who can still play.

1892
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: That's an agenda. That's an ambitious, realistic agenda, I think, right,

1893
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Bringing a couple of wide receivers, Yes, I see that happening.

1894
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Signing another offensive lineman. I think they can draft some

1895
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. In particular, I don't think they want to

1896
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: pay a ton of money for offensive lineman, although Spencer

1897
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: Long at four points something million a year is that's

1898
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: not insignificant. But yeah, I think you're on the right

1899
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: track there, Nathan Bonner. That's kind of the path I

1900
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: would take if I were the Buffalo, right and listen,

1901
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: there's a I think a lot of it of what

1902
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: the Bills do is gonna depeade dependent on options available,

1903
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: particularly obviously in the draft. When you sit there and

1904
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: you say they pick, if they do this, we do that.

1905
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: If these two teams do this and this, and we're

1906
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna we're stuck with this, you know that kind of thing.

1907
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot of that is going to happen in

1908
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: the draft. Free agencies a little bit different. You can

1909
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: get your ducks in a row and then pull the

1910
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: trigger on a couple of three different guys and have

1911
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: it ready to go. And like we saw with Micah

1912
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: Hyde and Jordan Poor, you're the first time Sean McDermott

1913
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: had an option to do something with personnel. He pulled

1914
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 1: the trigger on those two guys and they've been phenomenal.

1915
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can do that again. One call to squeeze

1916
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: in here? And is he still there? Chris? And what Santega?

1917
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: Are you gone? Chris? I think he's gone? How about

1918
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: Mike and Northana? Wanda? Hello, Michael Ahead, you're on the air. Hi, guys,

1919
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 1: how are we doing? Good? Good? I'm gonna tell you

1920
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: you've scared the heck out? I mean, and know where

1921
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: you guys were last week? By design, we didn't want

1922
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: anyone to know where we were. Well, I was just

1923
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: getting ready to give Spectrum Cable hell, and I thought

1924
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 1: i'd have boycott them. Well, I appreciate the loyalty. Thanks.

1925
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I wish I had known. I mean, it really bothered

1926
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: me when I thought the show had been pulled. Anyways, Well,

1927
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: let's it'll shot us too. Yeah. Do you want me

1928
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: to leave that alone? Yeah, Steve doesn't want me to

1929
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: talk about ahead, Mike. Okay. The temptation of Antonio Brown

1930
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 1: is strong, um and I feel it. But I'm just

1931
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: leadly of having another salary cap disaster that could turn

1932
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: into a locker room cancer. And that's why I would

1933
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 1: never want Leveon Bell here either. Those guys put themselves

1934
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: above their teams, and I mean, we have a different

1935
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: culture here. Now, let's not screw it up. Um. As

1936
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: far as what we need in the draft, UM, let's

1937
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: not forget that our defensive line doesn't put the most

1938
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: pressure on quarterbacks. We need a stud tackler end and

1939
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. We need offensive lemon, and we definitely

1940
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: need receivers. A fierce wide receiver that will fight for

1941
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 1: the ball instead of around, instead of sitting around and

1942
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: watching other players make plays on the ball. Guys, I

1943
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: know I had a lot on the agenda today. Yeah,

1944
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: I'm at a little mess up, so I'm gonna let

1945
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: it go now. No, Mike, thanks for calling. We're sorry.

1946
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: We gave you a scare last week. And Betsy, Mike

1947
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: just gave me two solid ideas for future Twitter polls?

1948
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: Did he yes? John him down? So they don't forget it?

1949
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Can I spit them out to you right now? Okay?

1950
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: What type of receiver do the Bills need? And why?

1951
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: I actually I suggested that to our producer Jay Harris today.

1952
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: I was kind of out voted, but I think that's

1953
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: a legitimate Twitter poll because he had a type receiver.

1954
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: He wants a guy who will go get the ball. Yeah,

1955
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: that's part of it. But did they need a speed guy? Yes?

1956
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: Do they need a guy who a red zone target,

1957
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: big talk on the red zone? Yes? Do they need

1958
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: a guy who fight for the ball and move the change? Yes,

1959
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: they need all of it. But maybe we can drill

1960
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: down a little bit more in the next couple of

1961
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: days here and get more specific exactly what type of

1962
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 1: receiver would you like to see the Bills sign? Uh? Now,

1963
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I forgot my second. Mike gave us the second idea

1964
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: for a Twitter poll. What was was what did you

1965
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: have a raft DT edge rusher, defensive tackle, edge rusher,

1966
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver ferocity? Yeah, Antonio Brown and Antonio Brown? Simple? Right,

1967
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: This could be tomorrow's Twitter pole. What should the Bill

1968
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: sign Antoni? Should the Bills trade for Antonio Brown? With

1969
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 1: everything we know about him, with everything that happened in Pittsburgh,

1970
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see what you know? Not that? Well, yeah,

1971
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: we do get gauged. We can gauge what Bills fan

1972
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 1: think from our Twitter poll. Can we do that tomorrow?

1973
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to commit to it now, we'll talk

1974
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: about it tomorrow, all right? Should the Bills trade for

1975
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown? We better do it soon because somebody might,

1976
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: yeah might empty That's a legitimate question, it is there

1977
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: I Mike just said, uh, he doesn't want to give

1978
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: up the culture. Yeah, right, said he understands White. It's

1979
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: a temptation. Yeah, it's a temptation because that guy can play. Yes.

1980
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too. You this thing about what

1981
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: kind of wide receiver you want? And I was thinking,

1982
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: how do you quantify that? How do you put that

1983
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: in the pole and listen? Do you want a guy

1984
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: like Julio Jones or AJ Green, which yeah, okay? Or

1985
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: do you want a guy like a Tyreek Hill or

1986
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: a or an Antonio Brown, a smaller, faster guy like that.

1987
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: Or do you want a guy in his prime, a

1988
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: guy like a guy like the Golden Tate who can

1989
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 1: catch the short ones, a guy like Wes Welker, a

1990
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: guy like Julian Edelman, you know, like Cole Beasley down

1991
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: in Dallas, one of these slot, a little small slot guys.

1992
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: What kind of receiver are you gonna look for? It's

1993
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: a good title. I'm I'm starting to feel you now.

1994
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, we could, uh we could? You know what

1995
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know exactly what you mean. You do

1996
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Up? Yeah, Uh, tune in tomorrow

1997
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: find out what our Twitter pole is tomorrow. It's gonna

1998
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: be exciting, all right. Taking a break here we come back.

1999
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: Staff writer for Sports Illustrated, Connor or Or will join

2000
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: us offseason story lines in the AFC. What's he got

2001
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: for the Bills on the rest of the AFC teams,

2002
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: plus a lot more than that, including some of today's

2003
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: development sent Tonio Brown, etc. Connor, When we come back,

2004
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: come on back with us. One Bill's Live presented by

2005
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:23,879
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Bills Radio Network.

2006
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: Sports Date got the update from One Bill's Drive. The

2007
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 1: Bills have a new offensive lineman. A veteran NFL starter

2008
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: of forty four games over the years. Spencer Long, just

2009
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: released a week ago by the New York Jets, agreed

2010
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: to terms on a contract with the Buffalo Bills. Started

2011
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: out his career as a third round pick of the

2012
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins in twenty fourteen, went last year to the

2013
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: New York Jets on a free agent contract, then released

2014
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: by the Jets. Forty four starts, started all thirteen games

2015
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: in which he played last season for the New York

2016
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: Jets had a hand injury that forced the Jets to

2017
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: move him from the center spot to the left guard spot.

2018
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Spencer Long agrees to terms signs a contract with the

2019
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill. The Bills also announcing today that they have

2020
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: resigned cornerback special team in Lafia Pitts, who had seven

2021
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: special teams tackles with the Bills last year's second on

2022
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 1: the team in special teams tackles, and Tonio Brown says

2023
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: it's time to move on from the Pittsburgh Steelers tweeted

2024
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: out a message to Steelers fans today saying farewell, thank

2025
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: you for a big nine years. Time to move on

2026
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: and move forward. No word yet on whether the Steelers

2027
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: plan on trading the veteran wide receiver. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

2028
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: released Vinnie Curry today. The eight year defensive end spent

2029
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 1: one season there after several years with the Philadelphia Eagles.

2030
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: He was a former second round pick of the Philadelphia

2031
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Eagles back in twenty twelve. Vinny Curry, a strong pass rusher,

2032
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: now out there on the street a free agent defensive end.

2033
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: The Texans are expected to release wide receiver to Maryus Thomas.

2034
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Houston acquired him last October at the trade deadline in

2035
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: exchange for a fourth round pick with the Denver Broncos

2036
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: to Maryus Thomas, thirty one years old, quiet in seven

2037
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: games with the Houston Texans last year, and Kyler Murray's

2038
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: announcement that he's firmly fully committed to a pursuing his

2039
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 1: NFL career brought speculation that the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback

2040
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: might go to the Arizona Cardinals for the first overall

2041
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,560
Speaker 1: pick because of an aging connection between him and the

2042
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals new head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Not so, according to

2043
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals coach Bill Bidwell. Former Mississippi State defensive lineman Jeffrey Simmons,

2044
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 1: a projected first rounder in the draft, suffered a knee

2045
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: jury during training capetur in at ecl Savers home tonight

2046
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: against the New York Connoters. The ub Bulls on the

2047
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 1: road at Akron tonight, the top offense and defense in

2048
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: the Mid American Conference Saint Bonovitch, who travels to Philadelphia

2049
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: tonight to play at Saint Joe's bottom coach Mark Schmidt

2050
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: one went away from tying tying Larry we See for

2051
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: the program's all time coaching record. Steve I wanted to

2052
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 1: get that in there. That's nice, Larry. We see coach

2053
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 1: Bob Lanier and the great Saint Bonaventure in nineteen seventy

2054
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament team, and Mark Schmidt, who's done a fantastic

2055
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: job as the head coach down there, could tie him

2056
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: in career wins for the bodies tonight. That's significant. Big.

2057
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: If you're a historian of Western New York college basketball,

2058
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: that's big. It is big. Note some success and some ability,

2059
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: and some longevity and some loyalty and a lot of

2060
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 1: good things to come out of that. Stuff like that.

2061
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Those are great, are a great record. Actually, let's me

2062
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: getting in there. Absolutely. I appreciate that we're here to

2063
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: talk about football in the NFL. We've got plenty to

2064
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: talk about today with the Bills signing an offensive lineman

2065
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown, everything going on around the league, and

2066
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: joining us to discuss. Staff writer for Sports Illustrated, contributor

2067
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: for MMQB, the great website MMQB dot SI dot com.

2068
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Former NFL dot com reporter Connor are on the subway

2069
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: first take content with us. Hello, Connor, how are you

2070
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: this afternoon? How are you? We're great? You made it

2071
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: off the subway. I guess you have a little timing

2072
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,520
Speaker 1: issue with the subway, right, are you in New York? Yeah?

2073
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you guys up there probably laugh

2074
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: at us for saying that snow is delaying everything. But

2075
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, we got about five inches. But that I know,

2076
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: that's a child's play to you guys, that's nothing. Yes, well, no,

2077
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: that's significant. Well we'll tip our hats to You're good

2078
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: for you. But I've got to ask you the stuff

2079
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: going around the NFL. What did what did you make

2080
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,839
Speaker 1: of the Kareem hunt signing. It's for the veteran minimum.

2081
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: The Browns have absolutely no risk involved except for the

2082
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: pr you know, backlash that they're gonna get. And what

2083
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: do you think is when do you think the ruling

2084
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: from the NFL is going to come down about how

2085
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: long he's going to be suspended? Well, you know, I

2086
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: think that's the interesting part. I mean, I've seen reports

2087
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:20,879
Speaker 1: circulating that the Browns will know soon you know exactly

2088
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: when cream Hunts will come back. But to me, it

2089
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: was just a question of why. I mean, you know,

2090
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: you already have a talented backfield, you have a locker

2091
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: room that you know you retain the interim head coach

2092
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: in the belief that he's done a good job cultivating

2093
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: some sort of a spirit or a culture in the

2094
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: locker room. I feel like this is sort of a

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Speaker 1: divisive move, and you know, not to get into any

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Speaker 1: of the other issues surrounding. You know, how much due

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Speaker 1: diligence did the Browns? Do you know, did they talk

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Speaker 1: to the right people before signing Cream Hunt? Did they

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Speaker 1: sign him too soon? And you know, I think all

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Speaker 1: those questions are certainly valid. You gotta ask those questions,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta wonder about I think Connor John Dorsey's

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01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: connection to Kareem Hunt, right, I mean, he'd liked him

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Speaker 1: enough to draft him in the draft a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. Obviously he must feel like he knows the

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Speaker 1: kid pretty well. That has to be a factor in

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Speaker 1: this move by Cleveland, doesn't it. Yeah. I mean he

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Speaker 1: did cite um, you know, his own pre draft interviews

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Speaker 1: when he talked yesterday, And obviously you know that people

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Speaker 1: have said that he's gone through this with similar players.

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Speaker 1: But I think that you have to treat every case

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Speaker 1: individually here and certainly, regardless of what happens here, Dorsey

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Speaker 1: owns the stick now and he owns the signing, and

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Speaker 1: I think that this is something that is certainly going

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01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: to be on their shoulders, you know, if there's any

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01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 1: missteps moving forward, if there's any sort of hiccups in

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Speaker 1: the process. I mean, remember this was you know, just

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Speaker 1: back in in around Thanksgiving that we had heard about

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01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: this in the first place, and so you know, this

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Speaker 1: is certainly a high risk maneuver for a team that

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Speaker 1: is you know, may not even have him as their

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01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: lead ball carrier, and certainly not I mean, given how

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01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: well Nick chuplay last year. He kind of this is

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01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: an absolutely no way an attempt to minimize that the

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Speaker 1: action that Kareem Hunt did. But the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: recorded on video makes this worst, doesn't it just does

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01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: it has for other incidents similar to this. Don't you

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01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: think it makes it? It makes it more real to people.

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01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: That makes it, uh something of note, mostly because you

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01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: can look at that video over and over again on

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01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: social media and on television all the time. Certainly, I mean,

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01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: the optics of that are you know, are are painfully

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01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard for some people to watch,

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01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's the toughest part about

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Speaker 1: having something like that happen on video. Is you know,

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: people who who suffer from something like this, who that's

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01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: happened to before, they see that happen again and they

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01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: see you know, players getting a second chance, and so

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01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think that it's difficult from all ins

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Speaker 1: of the spectrum, but certainly, I mean, as you saw

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Speaker 1: with Ray Rice and a lot of these other people,

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01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: they have a hard time finding a second chance when

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Speaker 1: when it is a documented on video. Though, I think that,

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01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, the hope is moving forward that that people

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Speaker 1: kind of understand that it doesn't have to be caught

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01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: on video to be taken as seriously as this issue was.

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Speaker 1: And I understand the difference that it makes when people

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01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: can see it over and over again. But do you

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01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 1: think the NFL will ever get to the point where

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01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: there will be a real zero tolerance policy? No? And

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you if if you

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01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: think about it, I mean, you know, is that what

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01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: makes the most sense, right? You know? I mean is

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01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: that you know, if that happens, are people more encouraged

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01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: to cover it up, or people more motivated to to

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01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: not report an issue, or you know, are they more

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01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: likely to try to force somebody to cover up an

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: issue because they know that that's their one and only chance.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that in society we've seen largely

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Speaker 1: as a whole, you know, rehabilitation, therapy, understanding your actions.

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Speaker 1: You know, these are important things here. Um, but uh,

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01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: you know, we'll have to see kind of what course

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01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: the Brown has decide to chart with with Kareem Hunt

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01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,600
Speaker 1: and his road back as well on the line with

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated staff writer Connor Or, who covers the NFL.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to another issue. Antonio Brown tweets

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Speaker 1: out today, thank you Steeler Nation for a big nine years.

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01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 1: Time to move on and move forward, hashtag new demands,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know what that means, but is this

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Speaker 1: new today? Connor? Certainly we knew that there was a

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Speaker 1: riff between the Steelers and Antonio Brown. If anything, what

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01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: does this look like an attempt for him to kind

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01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: of force their hand to trade him away? What do

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01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,879
Speaker 1: you make of that? I joked on on our podcast

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01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: earlier today that you know, it's sort of like Michael

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01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: in the office just yelling I declare bankruptcy and thinking

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01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,560
Speaker 1: that that means that you can declare bankruptcy like you

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01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: can't just say I demand a trade and then you

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Speaker 1: get traded. You know, That's not how this works. And

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I think that some players

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Speaker 1: are a little bit confused about, you know, exactly the

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01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 1: machinations behind all this. But the Steelers are going to

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01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: need a really solid return on their investment to trade

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Speaker 1: away the best receiver of his generation at a time

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Speaker 1: when they have a thirty seven year old quarterback sending

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Speaker 1: super Bowl window, you know, an aging defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: it makes no sense to trade him unless they get

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Speaker 1: something in return. And perhaps this is Antonio's way of saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of poking the bear a little bit

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01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, you know, if I come back, I'm

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: going to be a real paint and the you know what,

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01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: can the steeves really ignored though? I mean he quit

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01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: on them once? Essentially, Yeah, I think that the end incident,

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01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens towards the entas season, I think

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01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: is something that transcends sort of the typical game of

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01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 1: ping pong that an unhappy player plays with management. You know,

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Speaker 1: this was letting your teammates down. This was you know,

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Speaker 1: leaving during a game where you know you had a

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Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. And I think that that

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Speaker 1: is sort of the Really I think that's the point

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01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: that Mike Tomin is not going to get be able

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Speaker 1: to get past a lot of his teammates aren't going

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01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: to be able to get passed. But unfortunately for the Steelers,

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01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: it's also going to be difficult to sell this player

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01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to somebody else and expect that you're going to get,

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01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, better than maybe a second or third round pick. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the big questions. They're thirty one other

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01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: teams that would love to have Antonio Brown. The question

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Speaker 1: is what's it going to take to get him? What's

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Speaker 1: your best guests about that? Yeah, I mean, I you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine a team doing a first round pick

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Speaker 1: right now. I just think that would be really surprising

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01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: to me. You know, we pulled each other on the

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Speaker 1: podcast today. If you were a general manager of a

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Speaker 1: team that was maybe in moderate contention or close to

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Speaker 1: be in playoff contention last year, would you do it?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think not only does the history

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Speaker 1: show that most Super Bowl teams don't have that that

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01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: star transcendent wide receiver on it, but you know, most

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01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: teams aren't able to function when there's a player who

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Speaker 1: gets to operate by a different set of rules. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that, you know, gems are getting smarter,

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Speaker 1: you know, while there are getting more aggressive, they're getting

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Speaker 1: aggressive for the right players. And I'm just not sure

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Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown gives that return that Steelers fins might

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01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: be expecting. And I don't see multiple first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I don't really even see one first round pick. Connor Roor,

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Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated dot com staff writer covers the NFL

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Speaker 1: is our guest Connor is Kyler Murray a short fire

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 1: first round prospect? Do you think at quarterback? I don't

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01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: think he would have chosen football over baseball if he

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01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: was not assured of that in some way, shape or form,

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01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's beyond just an agreement

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Speaker 1: that your agent makes. I think that you know, being smart,

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01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,759
Speaker 1: listening to the right people, and understanding that you're probably

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01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: not going to make it out of the first round,

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01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: right because at the end of the day, you have

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01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: to think about your family, if to think about your finances,

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01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: and as long as he gets taken in the first round,

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Speaker 1: he automatically does better than he does financially in baseball

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Speaker 1: found the way through spring training and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I think that he's got a pretty good idea

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Speaker 1: that he's going to be a first round pick. I

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01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 1: think there's a handful of teams, especially in that tweet

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Speaker 1: spot for him, which might be in that ten to

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Speaker 1: twenty range where they need quarterbacks and they need a

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01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: change and he might be the right player there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely expect him to go in that first round.

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01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 1: Where exactly I'm not one hundred percent sure yet. Is

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01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: there an issue in your mind as to his slight

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01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 1: bill he's five ten or what is that going to be?

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01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of teams that's got to

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01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: be an issue because of just the fact that, you know,

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01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 1: you don't know if the guy can hold up to

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01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 1: the physical pounding the NFL dishes out certainly. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was reading some comments from Pat Tremer

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the other day, just at the beginning of the season

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: about Kyle Aletta, and he talked about site lines, how

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01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: important that is to you know, sitelines, being able to

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01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: see over your offensive lineman. It makes you a more

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01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: accurate quarterback, maybe not as explosive as someone like Kyler Murray.

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01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: But you're going to complete more passes, you're going to

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01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: move the ball more efficiently. And I would venture to

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01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: say that about half the league still probably thinks this

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01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: way more than half the league. That's why we still

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01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: see Russell Wilson going at the third round, or you

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01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,640
Speaker 1: know why Drew Brees wasn't a first round pick. You know,

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01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: height is something that really really matters to these coaches,

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01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, this is certainly the

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01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: first day of weeks and weeks and weeks of us dissecting, uh,

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01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: someone being five nine, which as seeking as someone being

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01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 1: five nine, I can only imagine what he's going through

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01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: right now. That's terrible. I feel your pain as well.

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01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: Where would Cayler Barry go in the two eighteen draft

2274
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: as far as those quarterbacks? Where do you think he would?

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01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: How did he line up with those guys who went

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01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 1: in the first round last April? You're saying, where would

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01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: he have gone if he entered last April? Or where

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01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: is he going to go? How does he compare to

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01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the guys who went first round last year? See the

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01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel there those first rounders? Or yeah,

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01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: I think so, I think so, you know, I think

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01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,680
Speaker 1: that that lines up with um, you know what a

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01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: lot of scouts have said about this class. I mean,

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01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: last year was a once in a decade class, you know.

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01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: I think that we got two thousand eighteen. Maybe we

2286
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 1: didn't see anything really like that since two thousand and

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01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: four in terms of the quality in the depths of

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01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: the class and some of the different skill pets. But

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01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: all guys who you know, coaches were willing to trade

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01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: up for or or kind of build their offense around him.

2291
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Even Lamar Jackson is getting an offense built for him

2292
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: next season, and I think that that's something that really

2293
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: speaks to the quality in the depth of that class.

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01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: I think Murray is getting in at the right time.

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not really sure outside of Dwayne Hapkins

2296
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: and maybe truth mock you know, where he would fall

2297
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 1: in terms of of those guys. But really that's your

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01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: your biggest competition, man, And I think that he was

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: smart to sort of PenPoint the opportunity because they're going

2300
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 1: to be teams desperate enough to take a chance and

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01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: to build something that he can succeed it. Connor were

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01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: a month away from free agency, if there was a

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: position group in the NFL right now that in this

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Speaker 1: upcoming free agent market that is stronger than it's been

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01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: in a while, or maybe that stands aside from the

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01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: other position groups that are available, what would that be,

2307
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean this the defensive front. I mean, you know,

2308
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: I think you know, Jadevion Clowney probably you know, resets

2309
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: the market at that edge rusher position. You know, he's

2310
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 1: twenty six. You know he can get two more contracts

2311
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: out of that as that lifespan. The Marcus down in

2312
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Dallas is another guy who you know, you're you know,

2313
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 1: getting after the passer is such a premium at this point,

2314
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: and you don't see guys at that age hitting the

2315
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 1: market right now. So you know, I would guess that

2316
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: most of the fuss is definitely going to be around them.

2317
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: But also I think, you know, given that it's a

2318
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: down quarterback class, I think you're going to see a

2319
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 1: little bit of buzz around guys like you know, Teddy

2320
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: Bridgewater and Joe Blaco and a bunch of those. Of

2321
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: all Joe's not technically a free agent, will have sort

2322
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: of a similar sort of market to a free agent

2323
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 1: quarterback kind of Last Friday, you published a pretty interesting

2324
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,879
Speaker 1: note on si dot Com about the Alliance or American Football?

2325
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Can the Alliance or American Football be a path back

2326
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: to the NFL one weekend in the books? What did

2327
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: you think of the play and what do you think

2328
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: is this a viable option for players trying to fight

2329
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,879
Speaker 1: their way onto an NFL roster? Maybe maybe not Christian Hackenberg,

2330
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: who we talked about in this story, he had a

2331
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: rough He had a rough one there, But uh, you know,

2332
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great, you know, I think

2333
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: if the one thing you know, I asked, actually asked

2334
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of co workers today about what they thought,

2335
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:03,919
Speaker 1: and you know, we compared it back to the XFL

2336
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: or when we would try to watch CFL games, you know,

2337
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: during the off season, and I think that one of

2338
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 1: the things, you know, the quality of the broadcast is better,

2339
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: so it immediately keeps you in front of the TV longer,

2340
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: It keeps people's attention. The coaches are good enough where

2341
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: they can run a pro style offense, you know, and really,

2342
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's all the NFL has

2343
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 1: ever eated, is a sustainable sort of league like that

2344
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: where they can plug players from the Alliance. When I

2345
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: talked to Hines Ward last week was overjoyed about the

2346
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: possibility of having some of his players go to the NFL.

2347
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: So if you have that working relationship, that cooperation, and

2348
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: that quality of product, you know, I think that they're

2349
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: in a good spot. And to be honest, I think

2350
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,959
Speaker 1: that the XFL is probably a little worried they're relaunching

2351
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty that they may have already gotten beaten

2352
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: to the punch here. Yeah, it kind of thanks thanks

2353
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 1: for joining us. You do a great job of digging

2354
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: out some nuggets, especially now when things are pretty quiet

2355
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: around pro football. Thanks for spending a few minutes with us.

2356
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. Kind of

2357
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 1: Our staff writer for Sports Hillist, a contributor for MMQB,

2358
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway first Take highline presented by

2359
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: Subway restaurants, probably locally owned and operated. Steve, I was thinking,

2360
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 1: we did a lot yesterday on the Alliance, right, the

2361
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Alliance to American Football Week one and right. I forget

2362
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: who I asked about the timing of it. It might

2363
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: have been. I don't know who it was, but you

2364
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: know what struck me last night. One of the reasons

2365
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 1: why the Alliance may have kicked off a week after

2366
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and got going now is because, as

2367
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Connor said, the XFL is coming. There's another developmental league coming.

2368
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: They're out of the gate already, right. They gotta jump

2369
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 1: on the what's going to be their competition for television ratings,

2370
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 1: for talent, both coaching and player talent. The Alliance is

2371
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: going to get out of the gate first. They already

2372
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: are out of the gate. That's probably one of the

2373
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: reasons why they accelerated their timetable and got going. Not

2374
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 1: only are they up and running, they got a TV deal. Yeah,

2375
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 1: you can catch their games. They they seem to be

2376
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: running real football covered well. It shows up well, the

2377
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: quality of play is there. Although the games were you know,

2378
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: weren't spectacular, they were very competitive for the most part.

2379
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: There was one of the four games that were that

2380
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: was out of hand forty to six for the Orlando Apollos.

2381
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was good football and it was right

2382
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: when people were like still you know, emotionally attached to

2383
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: the game from the Super Bowl. It wasn't like this

2384
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 1: long drought and let's not forget there's only four games.

2385
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 1: And we said this at the end of the show, yesterday.

2386
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: There's only four games a weekend, and it's only for

2387
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: ten weeks, and it's just a little dose and a

2388
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: little bit of with you know, it just helps you

2389
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: ween you off a week weekly football game, which is

2390
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: exactly what this league is designed to do. And you

2391
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: got just enough guys, just enough good players to keep

2392
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: you interested and it'll I think it's at the perfect

2393
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: spot at the right time. And why not. Yeah, we'll

2394
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: talk more about the alliance. We were laughing after our

2395
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: show yesterday. Hey, we can't do alliance every day, but

2396
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: he don't want a week or so, right, Yeah, I

2397
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 1: think it's interesting enough because I'll tell you there's gonna

2398
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: be a time when this guy's like Garrett Gilbert. Yeah,

2399
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah Wolford. Also Will Wolford is connected to him,

2400
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: John Wolford, the kid Perez from the Kid Press from

2401
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: I can't remember the team it was. He played well yesterday.

2402
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: So these there's quarterbacks there, You've already got people chiming in.

2403
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: They said, listen, why don't we take our guy like

2404
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley or whoever. You got a young quarterback that's

2405
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: like last year would have been Nate Peterman. Why don't

2406
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 1: you plug him into the Alliance, let him play a

2407
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: little bit and get some reps instead of plugging him

2408
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: into you know, reps that are taken away from Josh

2409
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: Allen or whatever to let him play in the Alliance.

2410
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 1: But then again, you to do that, you got to

2411
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 1: release him. But still the thought is there. People are

2412
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: already saying, hey, let's let's get some guys that we

2413
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: need to develop and put him in that league. It's

2414
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: it's exactly what it was designed for. I was, I said,

2415
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: I think, I said a couple of times, yes, said

2416
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 1: I was looking for television ratings from Buffalo for the Alliance,

2417
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Anna Pergament. Buffalo News reported today that Saturday San Antonio's

2418
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: win over Cindy i go first game of the Alliance,

2419
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: had a CBS game a one point eight rating on Saturday,

2420
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: and I beat the NBA game with a one point

2421
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: two rating on the ABC affiliate. Um, that's significant, I think, right, yeah,

2422
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got a new league first game, uh,

2423
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: and it was just it was close and they're not

2424
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: great ratings by the way. One point eight for the Alliance,

2425
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: one point two for the NBA. That's significant. The NBA

2426
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 1: has been around for listen the game between the in

2427
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 1: the NBA. We asked it was Houston Rockets against OKAC. Yeah,

2428
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean I was some pretty star powered game that

2429
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 1: was not a little NBA game that wasn't the like

2430
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks and the Pelicans. NBA ratings traditionally, uh um,

2431
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 1: not good in Buffalo regular season, especially we're not a

2432
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: basketball town. I mean, I mean, he's not a pro

2433
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 1: basketball team. Right in the playoffs, it's a different story. Right,

2434
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 1: that's significant, It is significant, and I and a little

2435
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: bit of it. It'll be interesting to see is this

2436
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 1: as it wears on? Was that just like curiosity first week?

2437
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: Let's see what it's about? And will they settle into

2438
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: a lesser rating. I don't know, but I don't think so,

2439
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: because the games were actually pretty good, right, too much

2440
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: alliance to all Right? Sorry, we got a limitary move on,

2441
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: a little small dose. We're gonna move on. We've got

2442
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: the NFL tour falls coming up, plus much more. You

2443
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: can weigh in, what do you think what should the

2444
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 1: bill's position on priorities be when it comes to free agency?

2445
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 1: NFL free agency opens up a week or a month

2446
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: from tomorrow. Let us know eight three fifty toll free

2447
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty will

2448
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 1: take some calls, read some tweets when we come back.

2449
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

2450
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome Back Chamber Free Steve Tasker go until

2451
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: three today and One Goal's Live from One Bill's Drive.

2452
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 1: Bill signed an offensive linement today. Spencer Long in his

2453
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: sixty year, twenty eight years old, the product of him

2454
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Nebranska third round pick of Washington back in twenty fourteen.

2455
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 1: Four years there. Last year were the Jets thirteen starts

2456
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: last year forty four NFL starts. We've been talking about

2457
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: it since the news came out. Look, it's not a

2458
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 1: huge signing, but we're here to report some bills news

2459
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: and uh we got a couple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're less.

2460
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: Some of you are less than you're underwhelmed by the

2461
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: by the Spencer Long signing. I get it. I mean

2462
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: it may be better than Russ Bodine, you know, um

2463
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,480
Speaker 1: and up and better is better. Jst tweets and can

2464
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 1: we stop talking about a third string center. It's been

2465
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 1: about two hours. Now, let's move on. The only guy

2466
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: they signed today, Spencer Long. That's why we're talking about it. Yeah,

2467
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 1: I get it is third stringer. I don't know. We

2468
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 1: started forty four games for Washington and the Jets, So

2469
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: does that make him a third stringer? I don't know.

2470
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Daryl f twenty nine with a pretty good perspective. Russell

2471
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: Bodine was pretty bad in Cincinnati, ended up being pretty

2472
02:01:57,440 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 1: decent here, So we'll see. He says, I'm indifferent about

2473
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 1: this signing. I guess I'm indifferent too. I am indifferent

2474
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 1: about most moves and that. You know, I'm not telling

2475
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: the other guy's great. I'm telling you other Bills signed him,

2476
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 1: Spencer Long. I'm telling you he started forty four games.

2477
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: That to me, Steve, that is uh significant, got my attention.

2478
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're talking about how good it might be

2479
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: and how bad it might be too. He might be

2480
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 1: a complete waste of time, but um, they're moving, they're

2481
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: looking around for him, and uh And it's the timing, Steve,

2482
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: that gets me excited. At the time of the year

2483
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: when nobody's doing anything right, nobody's being signed. The Bills,

2484
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: Your bills, I would think, are out there making moves,

2485
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 1: trying to get better, trying to at least add to

2486
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 1: the depth and maybe get somebody a little bit more

2487
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,800
Speaker 1: than just a death player for the offensive line when

2488
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 1: no one else is being signed, right, that's to me

2489
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: a significant all right enough, let's talk about true false.

2490
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: I like that here you go ahead, go ahead, you go,

2491
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 1: you all right? NFL True false. It's sponsored by uh

2492
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Yancey's fancy America's I know, Western New York's artists and

2493
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Cheese New York's artistans, New York's artists and cheese gosh.

2494
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 1: I almost had it. You wanted it bad Yancy's fancies

2495
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 1: NFL True false. Banishing Kareem Hunt from the NFL doesn't

2496
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: do him or anyone else any good. This in responsive,

2497
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 1: of course, to him being signed by the Browns. Should

2498
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 1: he been banished. Does banishing him from the NFL for

2499
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 1: good do him or anyone else any good? Murph, It

2500
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do him any good, But it does good I

2501
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 1: think as far as setting the tone and letting other

2502
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 1: people know what sort of behavior will and will not

2503
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 1: be accepted. So banishing Kareem Hunt from the NFL hasn't

2504
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 1: been banished yet. His case has not been adjudicated yet

2505
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: by the NFL. He is on the Commissioner's exemplest. They

2506
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: will make the decision. It could be at least a

2507
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: six game suspension. That's what's happened in domestic violence incidents before.

2508
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: But if there's some sort of banishment for Kareem Hunt, yes,

2509
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: it does do good for everyone else. Lets everyone else

2510
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: know this is beyond the pale. This is a behavior

2511
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 1: that will not be acceptable for whatever the amount of

2512
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 1: time is. So yes, I say false. I say false.

2513
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: It does do somebody does do somebody good. I agree.

2514
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, worst case, somewhere down the line,

2515
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: maybe it changes the behavior of somebody who actually does

2516
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: stay in the league. You know, maybe it changes the

2517
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: behavior of one of the guys. Hey, listen, I saw

2518
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: what happened to Ray Rice. I saw what happened to

2519
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 1: kream Hunt. I saw what happened to Greg Hardy. I

2520
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 1: saw all that stuff. I'm not I gotta, you know,

2521
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: do something different. And maybe there's some would be victim

2522
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 1: out there who does not have to go through this

2523
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 1: because of it changes the behavior of guys left behind

2524
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 1: in the league. So yeah, I agree with you, it's false.

2525
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: I think it banishing him would send a good message,

2526
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: and it's got to be noted too. That since ray

2527
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: Rice in the league clearly stumbled over Ray Rice and

2528
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: what sort of punishment he should have. Since then, though,

2529
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: the league has made it I think a good faith

2530
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 1: effort to find the right solution here, well how much

2531
02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 1: of a how much of a suspension is acceptable for

2532
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 1: these type of situations? More importantly, a good faith effort

2533
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: to educate players, this is how you handle domestic situations.

2534
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 1: This is how you handled your domestic partners. This is

2535
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 1: what you do, what you can do, what you don't do,

2536
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 1: what you don't even approach. The league has made a

2537
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 1: shoot Steve, we go to the Every NFL employee has

2538
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 1: to go to seminars once a year about how to

2539
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 1: handle situations like this and what's good, what's not good,

2540
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: what's acceptable, what's not So in that case, the league

2541
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: is on it. Much more work to do. They can't.

2542
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think they'd be able to eradicate domestic violence

2543
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 1: situations from the league, but they're trying, and I give

2544
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: them credit for that. They're trying. It's much further ahead

2545
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: than it was a couple of years ago. So we

2546
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 1: will say false, all right, NFL true false. Number two,

2547
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 1: The Lions should draft a quarterback with the eighth overall pick.

2548
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: They are just in front of Buffalo, right behind Jacksonville.

2549
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 1: Should they draft a quarterback with the eighth overall pick?

2550
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 1: And if they do, would it be Kyler Murray? You

2551
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: want me to go? Yeah, go ahead? False? There's not

2552
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 1: one worth the eighth overall pick. Not this year. Nope,

2553
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: they can get by one more year, right, No, false,

2554
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: not this year, not with the eighth overall. By your time,

2555
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 1: you can win with what you've got. No, no, sir,

2556
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's so fun. A few are

2557
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: false because we listen. They got Matt Stafford can play,

2558
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 1: He can really still play. It's an organ The struggles

2559
02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:19,240
Speaker 1: of that organization start higher than Matt Patricia and Matt Stafford.

2560
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,920
Speaker 1: It's a it's a organization that has not been able

2561
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: to win at all on a consistent basis for decades.

2562
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, if they're gonna do something smart, trade sideways

2563
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 1: at least, and but don't take a quarterback. He got

2564
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:36,920
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford who can still really play. I agree, that's

2565
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 1: a falsity. So all right, last one ready both said false,

2566
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 1: Lions should not We both think they should not draft

2567
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback with the eighth overall pick all right NFL

2568
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 1: true false. Number three Dolphins will hit it big with

2569
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 1: Flores as their head coach. With the Flores gamble, it

2570
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: says here, I don't know if he's a gamble, Brian gamble,

2571
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 1: Brian Flores as a gamble. I don't know. Go ahead

2572
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 1: and head coach. Um, I'm not as they might, but

2573
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say false. Um. You know, Flores

2574
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 1: was not the defensive coordinator right in New England. I

2575
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever been at this level. Uh, you know,

2576
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: to be a head coach, certainly, Um certainly makes a

2577
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 1: good impression. Who's been around a successful team. There is

2578
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 1: no history of Bill belichick disciples having immediate success, of

2579
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: any success at all in the NFL. So to say

2580
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: that they'll hit a big with Flores as the head coach,

2581
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I'm gonna have to say false.

2582
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 1: They might, but I'm gonna have to say faye. I

2583
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 1: agree they might, but I don't think they will. I

2584
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 1: think their issues go deeper. I think there's he's a

2585
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 1: he has to prove a lot, uh, making this move

2586
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: from a coaching tree that has not borne very much

2587
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: fruit to this point. Bill O'Brien would be the only

2588
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 1: guy that would have had any some sort of success

2589
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 1: off the Bill Belichick tree. Correct, you're right, and he

2590
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 1: also had a state right and he was. Yeah, he's

2591
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 1: proven to be a pretty good coach, although even at

2592
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: the NFL level he's been just Okay, you've got all

2593
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 1: the way back to Eric Mangini, Charlie Weiss, Josh McDaniels

2594
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 1: in Denver, Matt Patricia in Detroit. Although it's early in

2595
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 1: his career in Detroit, you never know, but you know,

2596
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 1: he's just I don't know that Flores is gonna be

2597
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, Brian Flores is going to be that big

2598
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: a departure from those guys and what they were prepared

2599
02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:30,400
Speaker 1: to do. So that's NFL trufe. We both disagree or

2600
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: think that's false. One more thing on that too, it's

2601
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 1: more likely. I think if you would have if the

2602
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 1: question would have been the Dolphins will bringing a new

2603
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: coach in three years, I would have said true. I

2604
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 1: would have guessed true on that. Seriously, I mean, it's

2605
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: all set up now. You've got a quarterback switch coming

2606
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:49,080
Speaker 1: down the road, either this year or very soon for

2607
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Right, you got them. I mean, people are

2608
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:54,680
Speaker 1: talking about tanking in Miami. They're talking about legitimately having

2609
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 1: a bad season to get a better draft pick. So again,

2610
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that Brian Flores is out.

2611
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't survive that, Yeah, it doesn't survive. I would

2612
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 1: I would vote true on that. That's more likely. And

2613
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're that patient in Miami. Adam

2614
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 1: Gains goes in one year and they're in the playoffs

2615
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 1: ten and six. Then they're they blow it up. Uh,

2616
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: well they don't. They have a bad sea, a down

2617
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: season after having a pretty good one, they blow it up,

2618
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 1: change the culture, and then after they're trying to change

2619
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 1: the culture kind of struggle through that year, they fire

2620
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: him because of it. I don't think they're patient enough.

2621
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think their owner knows what he's doing. Man.

2622
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they have strong leadership in the football department.

2623
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: Tannenbaum still there, by the way, I don't know if

2624
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 1: he has anything to do with football. Kind of a

2625
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 1: first tier GM right in. Uh Greer said Chris Greer.

2626
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 1: He I do not know. It's Greer the guy who

2627
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 1: played hockey here is brother, first time general manager, good background,

2628
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a there's a lot of unproven

2629
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: football decision making talent down there in Miami right now.

2630
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely that Florence doesn't survive. You're right.

2631
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 1: That is NFL Truth Falls and brought to you by

2632
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. There you go.

2633
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 1: A couple of others from the tweet sheet. We asked

2634
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: you to let us know if you rank the Bill's

2635
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 1: free agent position needs on this day, one day before

2636
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,760
Speaker 1: a month away from free agency. Bernie Daniels tweets, and

2637
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 1: it should be online and wide receiver and experienced spart center,

2638
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 1: maybe Matt parrotis to help Josh and then top tier

2639
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver one or two, Golden Tate or maybe John

2640
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 1: Brown happy they signed Spencer Long. He took ownership of

2641
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 1: his season. This is a second chance. I'd loved John Brown.

2642
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 1: Let me say that. I thought he had a pretty

2643
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 1: good year with Baltimore last year and they had some

2644
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 1: great moments, not enough of them with Arizona prior to that.

2645
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 1: If the Bills could ever get John Brown, that'd be

2646
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 1: big for me. I love that guy. It's a really

2647
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, there's that's the exciting part about this

2648
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:45,280
Speaker 1: time of year. You know we're gonna get some new

2649
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 1: guys and some of them are gonna be hey, pretty exciting,

2650
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 1: hopefully more so than like Lake Spencer Long Nope, Nope,

2651
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 1: no offense intended. But well listen, we were talking about it.

2652
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: We kind of laugh about it. Brian Cook on the

2653
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, this signing may talking about Spencer along,

2654
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 1: This signing may seem a bit ho hum, but this

2655
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 1: is a good move. Bean deserves a solid golf clap

2656
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:08,840
Speaker 1: for making a move to address an obvious kneed. And

2657
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:10,440
Speaker 1: he's right as a golf clap is all. You're not

2658
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: standing up, You're clapping from where you are, very polightly.

2659
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 1: Plus the price tag is okay. Anne could end up

2660
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 1: being a value signing. Personally, I want to know more

2661
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: about the guy and we're gonna find out more about

2662
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 1: him as this team takes shape in training camp. The

2663
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 1: thing is they're anything invested in him yet, we'll find out.

2664
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: Trying to get him on the show, we'll see tomorrow

2665
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe there you go. Ky lives out there in Nebraska. Rather,

2666
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna fly him in with our budget. We have

2667
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:36,320
Speaker 1: a telephone, though, maybe we can even skype. There you

2668
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 1: go with the new Buffalo Bill. Spencer a long, good,

2669
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 1: solid acquisition, not gonna change the fortune of the franchise.

2670
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 1: We get it. We're taking a break. One Bill's Live

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02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,920
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Hell from One Bill's Drive. This is

2672
02:11:45,960 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, so what have we learned? It's

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02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,680
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02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:09,240
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2676
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:14,280
Speaker 1: We talked to Ritzimini, who covers the Jets for ESPN,

2677
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 1: NFL Nature Too. Talked to him about Spencer Long and

2678
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 1: about the Jets. Here's what he said about Spencer Long,

2679
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman the Bills signed today. You know, he

2680
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:25,200
Speaker 1: missed a couple of games, and then when he came back,

2681
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:27,360
Speaker 1: he played left guard, and he actually did a decent

2682
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 1: job at left guard. So I think the Bills are

2683
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 1: getting a guy who can play a center and both

2684
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:36,440
Speaker 1: guard spots. And you know, he's obviously not going to

2685
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 1: be at a Pro Bowl level at either spot, but

2686
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:40,800
Speaker 1: I think he got a versatility is probably something that

2687
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,680
Speaker 1: appealed for the Bills, and you know, is he is

2688
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:47,280
Speaker 1: starting he In my opinion and from talking to coaches

2689
02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 1: and some people around the league, I think he's probably

2690
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:54,280
Speaker 1: a stopgap guy who can hold the fort until someone

2691
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 1: else gets in there, and the Bills have time and

2692
02:12:57,040 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 1: money to get someone else in here as well. Hey, also,

2693
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 1: we had kind of are on the show from AMMQB

2694
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: dot SI dot com sports illustrated writer. We asked him

2695
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 1: if rookie quarterback Kyler Murray is a first round prospect,

2696
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 1: what does he think. I don't think he would have

2697
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:18,320
Speaker 1: chosen football over baseball if he was not as short

2698
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 1: of that in some way, shape or form, you know.

2699
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:24,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's beyond just an agreement that your

2700
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,839
Speaker 1: agent makes. I think that you know, being smart, listening

2701
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:30,720
Speaker 1: to the right people and understanding that you're probably not

2702
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 1: going to make it out of the first round, right

2703
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you have to

2704
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 1: think about your family, if to think about your finances,

2705
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:38,440
Speaker 1: and as long as he gets taken in the first round,

2706
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:42,280
Speaker 1: he automatically done as better than he does financially in baseball.

2707
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 1: Founts the way through spring training and all that other stuff.

2708
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,960
Speaker 1: We'll find out about Kyler Murray good show today, another

2709
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: one coming up tomorrow. Steve Good work today. That was

2710
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: very nice show today, a little signing to get us

2711
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:56,120
Speaker 1: through the day and got us chat about it. Thanks

2712
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 1: up to assistance George Blasteff, Colton like Thomas Homold or

2713
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:01,760
Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j J. Kevin cart Just James robel Our,

2714
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,280
Speaker 1: producer Jay harrisy Tomorrow at noon, One Bills Live from

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02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.