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Speaker 1: all day long or you blame somebody for your life.

433
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Speaker 1: A happy person would never want to be that wor

434
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Speaker 1: behave that way, and would never want to be in

435
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Speaker 1: a relationship with a person who complains all the time,

436
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: why would you write so? Then that person says, Okay,

437
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Speaker 1: how many times do I have to forget until I

438
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: stop forgetting and start remembering? That is my moment of change.

439
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: So today I'm going to behave in a different way

440
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: and make a different choice. I'm going to just stay

441
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: conscious to not do these things. Okay. Then the person says, well,

442
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: I feel unworthy, I feel stressed, I feel unhappy, I

443
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: feel sad, I feel victimized, I feel grief. Whatever is

444
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: this the emotion that I want to have in my future?

445
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: Well?

446
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Speaker 1: No, these are emotions that are connected to experiences of

447
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: the past. If I truly want love in my life,

448
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: I can't feel resentment. Okay. Am I willing to trade

449
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: resentment for this elevated emotion? Okay? Let me just remember

450
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: all the times in my day. If I start noticing

451
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: I feeling this emotion, I'm just going to become conscious

452
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: and not go unconscious to it and just temper it

453
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: and work with it. Okay. So that is that overcoming process,

454
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: that is the becoming process. Now it would make sense

455
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: then you would have to ask yourself, what do I

456
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: want to believe? What is a thought? Do I that

457
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: I do want to fire and wire in my brain.

458
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: So with intention and with attention, if you have the

459
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: person remember what they wanted to believe, and keep remembering

460
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: what they want to believe, and keep remembering what they

461
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: want to believe, they begin to install the hardware. If

462
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: you keep attending to it, the hardware becomes like a

463
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: software program. And now that's the new belief I can heal,

464
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: I can find the relationship and belief is like pregnancy.

465
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Either you are or not. I mean, there's no in between.

466
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: So it's you want to install the circuitry to such

467
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: a degree that that's the new voice in your head

468
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: that's saying you, come on, Jay, get up, Come on, Jay,

469
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: let's go. Come on, you can do this. Come on,

470
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Speaker 1: make the time for it. Come on, this is your vision, Come.

471
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Speaker 2: On, coach. In your own head, it's a voice. Voice.

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00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: If the voice is no longer the disbelief, the voice

473
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: is basically your future self talking to you, is what

474
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: it is, all right. So okay, So one of my

475
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: if I start behaving in the old way, I know

476
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Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to disbelieve. So how do

477
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I want to behave? How am I going to behave

478
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Speaker 1: on my next date? How am I going to behave

479
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Speaker 1: in my next zoom meeting with my team? How am

480
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Speaker 1: I going to behave with my children or my family,

481
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Speaker 1: with my partner, with my act I how do I

482
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: want to be? In the act of rehearsing mentally in

483
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: your mind who you want to be? The act of

484
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: just closing your eyes and mentally rehearsing that scene literally

485
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: causes the brain to look like you already did it.

486
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: It looks like it's already happened, right, So now you're

487
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: priming the brain neurologically. Keep doing it over and over again.

488
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: The hardware becomes more automatic. Like a software program, you

489
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: naturally get your behaviors to match your intentions. And because

490
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: you install the circuitry, practice feeling the elevated emotion. If

491
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Speaker 1: you feel that emotion and you say, when I feel

492
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Speaker 1: this emotion, I can believe in that future, then let

493
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Speaker 1: me just keep remembering to feel this way in every

494
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Speaker 1: part of my day. Just not This is not about

495
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: positive thinking. This is about conditioning my body emotionally into

496
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Speaker 1: the future. So I got to keep my energy up

497
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Speaker 1: the entire day, and I can't default back to the

498
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Speaker 1: old person. As long as I'm feeling this emotion, I'm

499
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Speaker 1: going to behave that way. As long as I'm feeling

500
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Speaker 1: this emotion, I'm going to believe in that future if

501
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I maintain this modified state of mind and body my

502
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: entire day as an experiment, should there be some evidence

503
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Speaker 1: in my life as a result of my change and

504
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: state of being a synchronicity, a coincidence, And if there is,

505
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: then I'm going to do it again. I'm going to

506
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Speaker 1: actually do it again. And I think that's how we

507
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Speaker 1: start stepping into that future.

508
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Speaker 2: What are some I love that What are some practices

509
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: and what are milestones in the day that people can

510
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: use to hardwire those thoughts and beliefs, like, what are

511
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Speaker 2: some mechanism what are some tactics that can make a

512
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Speaker 2: day feel like? Okay, that's my game plan for how

513
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this, because, as you rightly said,

514
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Speaker 2: you think about it in the morning. Okay, I'm going

515
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: to try and do this, and then you're late for

516
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: that meeting. You know, you spill coffee over yourself, something

517
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: happened the kids, aren't you know, And then you're stressed

518
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Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden you've gone from being

519
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Speaker 2: a descent to die And what are some key checkpoints

520
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Speaker 2: throughout twenty.

521
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it's bad to react. I mean

522
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Speaker 1: everybody reacts. I react. The question is how long are

523
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Speaker 1: you going to react? That's the real question, Like how

524
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: long you can keep that going? Because surely if you're

525
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Speaker 1: feeling that emotion, you're going to behave as if you're

526
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: in your past and you're going to believe in that past,

527
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're actually gonna believe that it's valid to

528
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: behave that way. Okay, So if people just set the

529
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: intention in the beginning of their day and we've all

530
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: done this and gone unconscious within the first hour, yeap.

531
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Speaker 1: Whatever it takes for that person with if it is

532
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: before they sit down and neat lunch that they check

533
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: in with themselves and see if they've fallen from grace

534
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: or if they're still in that state or where they're at,

535
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: if they do it on their break. A person who's

536
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: possessed in a good way when they understand like when

537
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I change, my life changes and nothing changes in my

538
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: life until I change. A person who's really really committed

539
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: to that, they will constantly be checking in with themselves

540
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: because they're paying more attention to their inner world. They're

541
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: paying more attention to themselves and less attention to everybody else.

542
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: They're really regulating their state. So to any reminder a

543
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: person has, and I do this sometimes three times a day,

544
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I have to break away and remember like I'm losing it,

545
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: like my energy's dropping, and in the light of all eternity,

546
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: this moment matters more than anything else because it's never

547
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: going to be the right time. It's never going to

548
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: be the right time when you feel that emotion. If

549
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: I could convert right now and when it's the hardest,

550
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: it matters the most. If I can just get back

551
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: into my heart and change my state, synchronize my heart

552
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: to my brain. If I can do that in fifteen

553
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: minutes and come back out, will I see reality differently? Okay,

554
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: let me practice that. I tend to be more patient.

555
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I tend to be more aware. I think the heart

556
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: is a different consciousness. I tend to be more considerate,

557
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: more present. I think that's the side effect of doing it.

558
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: So change is about reminding yourself over and over again.

559
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Change is about the overcoming process. The overcoming process is

560
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: actually the becoming process. And people all the time that

561
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: heal in this work, they're doing their meditations. They're not

562
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: doing their meditations to heal, They're doings to change, and

563
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: they discover that when they change, they heal. So, now

564
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: if you accept that as a new belief that when

565
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I change, my life will change, and you got to

566
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: keep reminding yourself of that belief. You got to keep

567
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: reminding yourself if I change, because this goes against the program,

568
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: like when my life changes, then I'll change. That's the program. No, no, no,

569
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: when you change, the experiment is will your life change? Okay,

570
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: So then now you attack the belief. It's not like,

571
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is something that's bigger than me.

572
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: You attack the belief like this is no longer serving me.

573
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: Being complaining is making me unhappy. Living by this emotion

574
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: justified or not, is not loving to me. This is

575
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: down regulating genes. My body's believing it's living in the

576
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: same event twenty four hours a day. If I feel

577
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: the same emotion, okay, well let's change that. So when

578
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: the person is taking on that belief like if I change,

579
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: my life changes, and I think most people try to

580
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: create a new personal reality as the same personality. It

581
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: doesn't work. We got to become somebody else. So if

582
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: you took that on as the truth, Okay, I got

583
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: to remember that if I change, my health could change.

584
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: If I change, my life could change. Okay, Now it's

585
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: a different game. Now. It's not like I have to

586
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: This is like I want to change to see my

587
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: life change, right, It's more of a want to What are.

588
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Some of the changes that you've seen people make in

589
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: their life that have had the biggest changes in their life.

590
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, I've seen I've seen the most

591
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: amazing things in the last in just in the last

592
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: few years. I mean the Joe the Spenzer that sitting

593
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: here today has had a dramatic change in his belief

594
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: system in witnessing human transformation to the scale that I've

595
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: witnessed it, that's literally changed my belief in what's possible, right,

596
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean in it's coming from the data that we're gas,

597
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: but it's also coming from the stories of transformation testimonials

598
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and this. I have to be careful about this because

599
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: this is a stretch for a lot of people. I'm

600
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: not talking about you know, just fifty people. I'm talking

601
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: about hundreds if not thousands of people who've broken the

602
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: four minute mile, that they went from absolute bankruptcy in

603
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: severe debt to you know, super abundance, whole new life

604
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: by changing. I've seen people with all kinds of health conditions,

605
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: from muscular dystrophe to spinal cord injuries, to Parkinson's disease,

606
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: to Stage four cancers to all kinds of crazy serious

607
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: health conditions to go into complete remission. The person changed,

608
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: and when they changed, their health change. I've seen people

609
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: brain scans when they're in that place of a transcendental experience.

610
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: I've seen what the brain looks like. That arousal that's

611
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: taking place in that moment where they're connecting is not fear,

612
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: it's not anger, it's not pain. That's what typically creates

613
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: arousal of survival. This arousal is ecstasy. This arousal is bliss.

614
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: They're having a transcendental moment where they're interacting with something

615
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: that's beyond their senses that's causing their body to be

616
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: lifted and aroused.

617
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: How much work does it take?

618
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing about what we're discovering. Get a

619
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Speaker 1: group of people together, give them information that's based on science.

620
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Have them understand the information, have it, teach it back

621
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: to somebody, Have them understand what they're doing and why

622
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: they're doing it. You know, combine quantum physics with neuroscience

623
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: and neuroendochronology and psychooneurimmunology and epigenetics and magnetism in Newtonian

624
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: physics and all that stuff. But make it really simple

625
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense to them so they can understand it.

626
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: Leave nothing to conjecture, nothing to superstition, nothing to dogma.

627
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Have it wired in their brain so they can teach

628
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: it back to somebody. They understand it. Set up the

629
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: conditions in the environment to apply that information, that philosophy,

630
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: that theory, personalize it, demonstrate, do something with it. Get

631
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: your behaviors to match your intentions, get your actions equal

632
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: to your thoughts. Get your mind and body working together.

633
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: You can have a new experience. Experience enriches circuitry in

634
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: the brain and it makes a chemical and that chemical

635
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: is called a feeling or an emotion. And now you're

636
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: teaching your body chemically to understand what your mind is

637
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: intellectually understood. Now the knowledge isn't just in the mind.

638
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Knowledge is the information, and the experience is now in

639
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: a body, and that's what emotion doesn't work chemically instructing

640
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: our body to understand what our mind is intellectually understood.

641
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: So you get a group of people together and have

642
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: them understand information and then go to the application that

643
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: you can see that in seven days people have these

644
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: very profound transcendental experiences.

645
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Are your progress workshops?

646
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the week long retreats, and so when we look

647
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: at the data and people who hit these aroused states,

648
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's more than fifty percent of the subjects that

649
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: we're measuring in terms of their brain scan, So it's

650
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: not like one person or two people. It happens more

651
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: and more as people get better at doing it.

652
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Have you seen any key traits that people who accelerate

653
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: that process have, people who really applied themselves effectively to

654
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: the process. What kind of traits and characteristics can people

655
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: develop in order to really see that shift and see

656
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: that change for themselves.

657
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I think people have to be present with information,

658
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: and I think paying attention is being present, and I

659
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: think it's a skill and the more you practice it,

660
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the better you get at it. But if you're not present,

661
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: then you can't you can't hear the information. Because your

662
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: mind is in the predictable future of the familiar past.

663
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: Right.

664
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Speaker 1: So that's why online courses for me is something that

665
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I never would ever do because I don't want to

666
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: compete with a person's attention, because it's so much easier

667
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: to forget this information than to remember it. Right. But

668
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: if you can get a community people together, have them

669
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: understand the information, and then in seven days immerse themselves

670
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: fully into transformation and change, sooner or later, there's an

671
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: emergent consciousness that takes place in the collective. And this

672
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: is what we discovered. One of the things that was

673
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: so amazing in just looking at the data is you

674
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: get people from all over the world that come to

675
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: these events, you know, sometimes the ninety different countries, and

676
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: you have everybody with their own very specific genotype and

677
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: genes make proteins, right, So everybody has their own unique

678
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: gene expression and their own genotype. But at the end

679
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: of seven days, about eighty percent of the population is

680
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: expressing the same genes and making the same proteins. That

681
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: means that that the tribe, the flock, the herd, the collective,

682
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: there's an emergent consciousness where people are biologically evolving together, right,

683
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: So something happens that's intangible when you get a group

684
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: of people together and they start overcoming themselves and they

685
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: sit with themselves long enough to be curious about what's

686
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: on the other side of that belief. Instead of saying

687
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: I quit and get up and get my cell phone

688
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: or call somebody, or go eat something and go do something,

689
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: you're going to sit there, and you're going to just

690
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: become really conscious that you're not going to give up

691
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: on you. You're going to go past that point. And

692
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: I think giving up on ourselves becomes a habit, right,

693
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: allow the person to get beyond sit long enough that

694
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: they come up against that emptiness or that pain or

695
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: that sadness, and instead of getting up and saying I'm

696
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: doing meditation wrong, I understand I'm actually doing it right.

697
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: This is part of the transformation process. Okay, now that

698
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this emotion, let me just lower the volume

699
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: to this emotion and get back into the present moment.

700
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: And now you're taming the animal, right, Yeah, you're taming

701
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: the animal self. And it takes an enormous amount of energy,

702
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: an enormous amount of awareness to do that. So, so

703
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: if you give people the information, and you give them

704
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: numerous opportunities to overcome themselves and numerous opportunities to connect.

705
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, this emersion consciousness will begin to form,

706
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: and just like infection spreads amongst the community and creates disease,

707
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you see health and wealth and

708
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: abundance and freedom becomes as infectious as disease. And then

709
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: and then that's what we see at the end of

710
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: seven days. There is an emergent consciousness that's reflected in

711
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: people's biology and genetically, they look like they're living in

712
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: a new life. Thousands and thousands of metabolites are being

713
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: released into their blood to suggest they're in a new

714
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: environment and they're in a ballroom and there's nothing really

715
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: special happening in a ballroom, but their bodies looking like

716
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: they're living in a new life, and they're making thousands

717
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: of new chemicals, you know, endogenous opioids, chemicals for neurogenesis,

718
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: chemicals that suppress cancer growth, chemicals that downregulate the genes

719
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: for Alzheimer's, chemicals that's created a resistance to a spike virus.

720
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: These are chemicals that the body innately is secreting when

721
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: it's living in the environment of love. When it's living,

722
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: the body can be relaxed in the present moment, not

723
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: be preoccupied with the next moment. We discovered when you're

724
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: relaxed in your heart and you're awake in your brain,

725
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: you're in the perfect state.

726
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: Awake in your brain.

727
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the formula.

728
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: How long does it take scientifically to rewire a belief?

729
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you could actually measure that.

730
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: I think there's too many variables, the comprehension of the information,

731
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: how long the person meditates, how present they are when

732
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: they are meditating, what their past was like, and you know,

733
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of variables. I've seen it happen instantaneously.

734
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: What appears instantaneous to be instantaneous, But that person could

735
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: have been grappling with that belief, you know, for a

736
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: long period of time. So it turns out, when we're

737
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: relaxed in our heart, the body is believing it's living

738
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: in a nurturing environment, and it begins to express new genes.

739
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: And that's exactly how we change.

740
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Because yeah, we always hear that, you know, the famous

741
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: thirty to ninety days for a habit, like sixty days

742
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: for a habit, that kind of thing to change a habit,

743
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: But a belief is so much more deeper than that.

744
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a belief is a habit of thinking. Yeah,

745
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: it's just a really unconscious habit of thinking. Everybody's belief

746
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: should always be challenged. My belief in what's possible is

747
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: being challenged today. I think that's fun. Like I watched

748
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: the scientists that are doing the studies, the empirical studies,

749
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: and watching them run the same experiment five times in

750
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: a row because they're really expecting a different outcome. I know,

751
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: right in that moment they're changing their belief. I know,

752
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: right in that moment they're discovering something new. I know

753
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: in that moment they're going on, this is unbelievable. Right. So,

754
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I think the greatest belief that we could ever have

755
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: is our belief in ourselves and our belief and possibility.

756
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: And I think that has to be earned. That has

757
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: to be earned. You've got to show up for you

758
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: enough times where you have that belief. You earned it.

759
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: It's not like you do something in one day. The

760
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: person who heals from a health condition, who finally says,

761
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I thought this could work for me.

762
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: They show up every day. They're showing up every single

763
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: day because if they don't show up, then they don't

764
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: believe it's possible, and they have to show up to

765
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: prove to themselves that it is. And some of those

766
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: people did their meditation for a year and they earned

767
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: that belief in that future. And of course the effect

768
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: was they had that moment that looked like, oh my god,

769
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: that person just seeing they've been walking the yellow brick

770
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: road for the last year and they never missed a day.

771
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: And they'll tell you the meditations I remember the most

772
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: were the hard ones, not the easy ones, the ones

773
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: where I had to sit with myself and I would

774
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: not give up. Those are the ones that mattered the most,

775
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: because that's what got them to that point, right. It

776
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: was the overcoming process. Nobody wants to overcome. Amazon Prime

777
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: just spoiled us, you know, they just on it, right,

778
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: But it's the overcoming process that ninety five percent that's programmed.

779
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what you've got to dig deep in and you've

780
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: got to become really conscious of it and that overcoming process.

781
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: The side effect of that is the actual becoming process.

782
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: The body's liberated energy naturally moves to the heart. It's

783
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: not like something that you have to do. The body

784
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: is no longer tormented emotionally by the past, it's no

785
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: longer habituated into the past, it's no longer believing in

786
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: the past. Energy naturally moves into the heart when it's

787
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: not in survival. It's where it should be going. And

788
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: now we're ready to create. So it's important for people

789
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: to understand that you always have to give something up

790
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: from your past in order to create a new future.

791
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just so obsessed with the person at the

792
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: top of the mountain that we don't look at the

793
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 2: journey they took to get this. Sure, and no matter

794
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: how many times we know that there is no such

795
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: thing as an overnight success in any way in healing

796
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: or whatever it may be, constantly feel like, oh, but

797
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: look at that person. They've figured it out and they're enlightened.

798
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: Maybe they always had it. We're we're good at ascribing

799
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: enlightenment to people without thinking that they had a purification

800
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: journey to get there. Yeah, and therefore we kind of

801
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: believe like we either have it or we don't. We

802
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: don't believe that journey is possible for us.

803
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I think we were told the

804
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: wrong story.

805
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've just kept telling ourselves the wrong sting.

806
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

807
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: I saw in source you talked about how protein in

808
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: meditation that creates immunity. When did you talk about that?

809
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: That's that just sounds mind blowing.

810
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: As I said, genes make proteins, and proteins responsible for

811
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: the structure and function of your body. The expression of

812
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: proteins is the expression of life. So react and respond

813
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: the conditions that cause you to feel the emotions of survival.

814
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Your reaction or your response to that condition, to that

815
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: challenge will actually weaken your body if you keep doing

816
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: it over and over again. Stress it consumes enormous amounts

817
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: of energy for the body. So the repetition of that

818
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: begins to downregulate genes and create disease. And so if

819
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: you can turn on the stress response just by thinking

820
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: about that problem, your thoughts could make you sick. So

821
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: the question is can your thoughts make you well? And

822
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: so we said to people, Okay, trade resentment and impatience

823
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: and frustration for an elevated emotion like gratitude or appreciation,

824
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: kindness and care. We'll hook you up to a heart

825
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: rate monitor. We want to make sure that your heart

826
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: is coherent, so we know that you're actually feeling these emotions.

827
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: And we're gonna measure an immunoglobulin called immunoglobulin A, which

828
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: is really the primary defense against bacteria and virus in

829
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: your body. It's the body's natural flu shot and it's

830
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: suppressed when cortisol levels go up because stress hormones shut

831
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: down the immune system. So could a person then create

832
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: an elevated emotion And the body is so objective that

833
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: it does not know the difference between a real life

834
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that that

835
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: person is fabricating by thought alone. To the body, it's

836
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: the unconscious mind, it's the same. So if the person

837
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: feels the elevated emotion, will they begin to signal new

838
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: genes that will make new proteins. And we discovered that

839
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: that particular immune globulin A went up by fifty percent

840
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: in the subjects that we measured, So feeling elevated emotions

841
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: causes the body to upregulate genes and allow the immune

842
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: system to repair and regenerate. Now that study was our

843
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: first study, but when we when we started looking at

844
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: the plasma of advanced meditators right around the time COVID happened.

845
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: In one some of our first experiments that we did

846
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: with the University of California, San Diego, we had all

847
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: this plasma and they closed the lab down and closed

848
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: the university down and the lab was minimized, but we

849
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: had all this great plasma from advanced meditator, so there

850
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: was a little bit of time. So we just started

851
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: messing around with creating a pseudovirus like a SARS COVID

852
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: two virus, and we picked the first subject and we

853
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: did what's called an adoptive transfer. We used his plasma

854
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: and put the pseudovirus near an A two receptor, which

855
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: would you know what the spike virus attaches to. And

856
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: we discovered that there was an immunity in the plasma

857
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: of the advanced meditator where the virus could not enter

858
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: the cell, like it was like stuck on the outside

859
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: of the cell. We saw that in novice meditators there

860
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: were some that were stuck to the outside of the

861
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: cell and others that made it into the cell, and

862
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: then we saw with the controls that they all were

863
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: in the cell. And so we went through a series

864
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: of the scientific experiments, and we isolated that it was

865
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: a protein, and then we'd isolated the exact protein that

866
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: the body and advanced meditators make, and it's called serpent

867
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: A five, And if you look online for serpent a five,

868
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: it'll tell you that it has a profound effect against

869
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: the sarscobe two virus. And so the plasma of advanced

870
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: meditators were naturally creating an elevated level of serpent A

871
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: five that inhibited the virus from entering the cells. In

872
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: other words, the body is greater than the environment. And

873
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: so we've replicated the study a few times and we

874
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: see the same outcomes. We published a paper on it,

875
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's out there.

876
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Wow, that's I mean, that's pretty remarkable.

877
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were super surprised. We were really surprised.

878
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: Very surprising. Yeah, it's mind blowing to think about that

879
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: being possible, but I guess it shouldn't be. It's just

880
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: that we haven't we haven't really accessed the true powers

881
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: of the body in the mind, and we're almost unaware.

882
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: You know, we always hear that quote of like you

883
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: only use ten percent of your brain or whatever it is.

884
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: What is your research found of like how much we're

885
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: not tapping into the ability that we have.

886
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: Well, they used to call this pseudoscience, and I can

887
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: tell you know, you can't call it pseudoscience. This is

888
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: what our data suggests. Our data suggests that your autonomic

889
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: nervous system manufactures the pharmacy of chemicals that works better

890
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: than any drug. That's what our data shows. A drug

891
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: study at its best is about twenty five percent one

892
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: out of four people have a response, and it usually

893
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: takes three months or more to have an effect. We're

894
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: seeing that at the end of seven days, the seventy

895
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: five percent, eighty four percent, one hundred percent of the

896
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: people that are in that are being tested are having

897
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: the same outcomes. So their plasma, their blood, their brains

898
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: in seven days look like advanced meditators people who just

899
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: have never meditated before. Every time we've done a study,

900
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: we have been completely blown away by the power of

901
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: human potential. We're greater than we think, We're more powerful

902
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: than we know, We're more unlimited than we can ever dream.

903
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: And when you have this incredible evidence in science, and

904
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: you have the incredible evidence in human testimony, I think

905
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: evidence is allowed us voice right. So as again my

906
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: belief has been absolutely blown away because the data is

907
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: telling us that we're incredibly powerful. And as an example,

908
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: we took just as a fun experiment, we took young

909
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: people between the ages of eighteen and twenty five and

910
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: we paired them with elders that were at least thirty

911
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: years or more older in their sixties, seventies, or eighties,

912
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: and we did brain scans on them and did cognitive

913
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: tests on them, and did some other studies. And the

914
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: job was that they had to spend the entire seven

915
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: days together. They had to eat together, they had to

916
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: sit next to each other, they had to teach the

917
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: information back to each other, they had to meditate next

918
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: to each other, they had to have a huddle at

919
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: five point thirty in the morning and take these cognitive tests.

920
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: And it was hilarious because at the beginning of a study,

921
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: the elders were like, I'm sorry, I have another kid.

922
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: This kid is not going to work for me. And

923
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: the young kids were like, oh my god, that person

924
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: is There's no way. They're so mean, I'm never going

925
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: to make it. And we said no, no on this part

926
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: of the study. And turns out that they became incredibly

927
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: connected and we used people going through a seven day

928
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: retreat as the control, which just about one hundred percent

929
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: of the people's brains changed for the better. So these people,

930
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: we knew their brains were going to change for the better.

931
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: But when we paired the young with the old, their

932
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: brains were comparatively way better, way better than anybody in

933
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: the in the community that was going through the event.

934
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: In other words, the wisdom of the elder somehow was

935
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: transferred to the youth, and the plasticity of the youth

936
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: somehow was given to the elder. And we looked at

937
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: the post scans of the brain. Their four brains were

938
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: in beautiful gamma like super conscious, super present, super aware,

939
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: and the rest of the brain was elegant patterns of alpha,

940
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: creative and relaxed and awake. When we did the cognitive tests,

941
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, we expected that we were expecting or hoping

942
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: that the elders would perform better by hanging out with

943
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: the youth. But we discovered the youth actually performed better

944
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: by hanging out with the elders. And again, we just

945
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: never anticipated that it's so important for you to hang

946
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: out with your grandparents, it's so important to hang out

947
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: with people that are older than you, because there's an

948
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: exchange of information, both locally and non locally that transforms

949
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: each other. And we discovered that people change people. That's

950
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: what community is about. So get a collective network together

951
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: of two thousand people or twenty five hundred people from

952
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: all over the world, and at the end of seven days,

953
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: they're all expressing the same genes, making the same proteins

954
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: or microbiome is dramatically changed. Their microbiome looks like they're

955
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: a completely different person. They're making thirteen fourteen different probiotic

956
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: microbes that would take them months to make, and they're

957
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: making those in seven days, right, So the emerging consciousness

958
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: is being reflected on every level, from brain to heart,

959
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: to microbiome to gene expression, to immune system to breast milk.

960
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing great studies in the breast milk

961
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: studies we're doing with women that go through a seven

962
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: day event. There's information in their breast milk that could

963
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: heal a wound in forty eight hours that would normally

964
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: take two weeks, where there's information in there that's pro

965
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: life and pro growth. So we've never been disappointed Jay

966
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: in any of the studies we've done. We've always sat

967
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: there and shook our heads. And every now and then

968
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: a new scientist joins the you know, joins the team,

969
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: and someone will be presenting on the microbiome as an example,

970
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: and you see these I mean dramatic changes where people's

971
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: microbiomes actually look the same. Right, So they're not changing

972
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: their diet, they're not taking a probiotic, they're not staying

973
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: away from you know, there's no you know, no abstinence

974
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: from sugar. They're just living there. Everything's the same, but

975
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: their microbiomes are completely different to reflect a different person.

976
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: There's a neuroscientist and that kind of joined and she's like,

977
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how is this all working? Like, how is

978
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the mind producing such dramatic effects on the microbiome in

979
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: seven days? So we're never disappointed in the studies we do.

980
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: So I do think we have a really great potential

981
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: human potential. I just think that we have to reframe

982
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: certain beliefs about health and certain certain beliefs around lifestyle.

983
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Before I get to my last question, there's one thing

984
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, Richard. You've told about the

985
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: power of you know, you're doing these retreats, right, now

986
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: with you just told me once coming up with like

987
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 2: eight thousand people twenty five hundred people, and you're talking

988
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: about the power of collective consciousness, and I think the

989
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: world at large is experiencing what seems to be a

990
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: dividing collective consciousness. And I think even if you look

991
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: at it on a micro level, Let's give an example

992
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: of like a bunch of friends you like to get

993
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: together and they like to talk about their challenges and

994
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: the problems and the issues they're having with whatever it

995
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: may be. What's kind of collective consciousness? Is that creating?

996
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: And how can people elevate each other together as friends?

997
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: Because in the same way as you said, until we change,

998
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: nothing changes. We keep seeing the same people, we're all

999
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: in the same position, and things are not changing, so

1000
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: obviously something hasn't changed.

1001
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: First thing is that reality is a memory. We see

1002
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: reality through the lens of the past. That's just the

1003
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: way it is. So, so I have a memory of you,

1004
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: and as long as they have a memory of you,

1005
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: you show up equal to my memory of you. Then

1006
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can recognize Jay. The moment a

1007
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: person starts to change in a small collective community, they

1008
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: don't show up as the memory that people have of them,

1009
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: like something's different, something's out of phase, right, And so

1010
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: then a question is like, what is it? What is

1011
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: it about you? And if the person's happier than you,

1012
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: suspect ohether they are in love or oh they must

1013
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: have got a new job, or they're taken a new drug,

1014
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: a new medication, whatever it is, right, but they're genuinely

1015
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: just different or happy. So if that consciousness of that

1016
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: small collective is all about evolution, is all about love,

1017
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: it's all about growth, you're going to say to that person,

1018
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: so what happened? And that person's going to say, I changed, Like, well,

1019
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: how did you change? I just decided that I was

1020
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: holding on to this emotion resentment, and I've just been

1021
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: working for the last two weeks, and I feel better,

1022
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely feel better now that I'm not addicted

1023
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: to that emotion of resentment. Now the person is naturally

1024
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: going to say, what, well, how did you do that? Well? Okay,

1025
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: And then you get in the conversation about change. Right now,

1026
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: the person's inspired by someone in the flock who's breaking

1027
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: out and changing their consciousness, changing their awareness, changing their energy,

1028
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: changing their emotional state, and it's evident. They're the example,

1029
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: and mere neurons switch on in the brain and mere

1030
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: neurons emulate behavior. So if that person is kind and

1031
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: present and considerate and caring, all of a sudden, you're like, wow, Wow,

1032
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: Jay is like really present and really cool, and you're

1033
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: going to begin to think about that more and more,

1034
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: and miror neurons will be like encouraging you to behave

1035
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: like that tribe, that person in the tribe. You get

1036
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: enough people doing that, and then you know, the collective

1037
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: changes naturally. And of course it's not a linear process,

1038
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: but that's how people change now on a macroscopic level,

1039
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: like the world, and all the time that I've lived

1040
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: on this planet, I've never seen the world personally in

1041
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: the state that it currently is in. And there's a

1042
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of separation, there's a lot of division, there's a

1043
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: lot of extremes. How there's a lot of uncertainty. You know,

1044
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: this is a crazy time. And so our curiosity is

1045
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: there's a collective consciousness in the world, and that collective

1046
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: consciousness is based on the information that the consciousness is

1047
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: being fed. Because information causes you to become conscious of

1048
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: whatever you are unconscious to and you can't have consciousness

1049
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: without energy. You can't have a thought without a frequency.

1050
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: So the division that's taking place collectively is a lot

1051
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: of chaos and a lot of disorder. Okay, So if

1052
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the energy is chaotic and entropic and disorderly, but there's

1053
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: an enormous amount of it, is there a way to

1054
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: change that energy collectively? And is it the number of people,

1055
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: is it the amount of energy, or is it the

1056
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: most coherent signature? And it doesn't have to be a

1057
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: large group. It could be a small collective group with

1058
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: coherent hearts in coherent brains. Could they begin to collectively

1059
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: begin to change the field. And that's what we're looking at.

1060
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: We're looking to see in an event that we do

1061
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: with two thousand people. As an example, we have random

1062
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: even generators that are placed all throughout the room and

1063
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: they're sophisticated coin tosses, and the more you toss a coin,

1064
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: the more it's going to be fifty to fifty. So

1065
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: these machines are tossing thousands of tosses per second. So

1066
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: and the random it wouldn't be zero zero one zero

1067
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: one zero one, and maybe one one one zero zero

1068
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: zero one zero one zero zero zero one one one

1069
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: zero zero like that, back and forth. But overall it's

1070
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. And if there's nobody in the room,

1071
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: it's always fifty to fifty. Get a collective network of

1072
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: observers together with brain and heart coherence, and set an

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Speaker 1: intention for whatever it is. It's just to say, heal others,

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, that machine goes zero one

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: zero one one one. It just moves right outside of

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Speaker 1: the norm outside. So this is a machine that's programmed

1077
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: to flip a coin randomly, and all of a sudden,

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01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: the effects of a collective network of observers is causing

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Speaker 1: a random event generator to become more orderly. There's an

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Speaker 1: effect that's taking place. Okay, we see it over and

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Speaker 1: over again. We take one of those random event generators

1082
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: and we wrap them in a Faraday cage, you know,

1083
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: like copper and nickel in heavy metals inside lay electromagnetism,

1084
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: and they insulate frequency. You go to the dentisty puts

1085
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: the lead apron on you. It's to block the radiation

1086
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: from the X ray, right, So that's frequency. So build

1087
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: a Faraday cage around one of them and insulate them

1088
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: and all the others are moving outside of normal, but

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: the one that's insulated is behaving as if nobody's in

1090
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: the room. So now we're starting to wonder is it

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: an electromagnetic energy that actually is having this effect? Right?

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01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: So then how is that important? Well, Okay, if you're

1093
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: in survival, you're not going to trust. If you're in survival,

1094
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: it's all about the self. If it's in survival, you're

1095
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: not at your best. You're going to act very primitive, primitively. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So coherent heart magnetic field, coherent brain electric field. Now

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Speaker 1: you've got a Wi Fi signal. What is the number

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Speaker 1: of people that it would take to begin to produce

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01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: changes that could be globally So we did this event

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01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: in September last year called Walk for the World, and

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: we invited the entire world to walk to become the

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01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: very change they want to see in the world. We

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: estimated we had probably about three hundred in plus three

1104
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: fifty thousand people from all over the world in one

1105
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two different countries gather together and do

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Speaker 1: this walk. And we were partnering with the Heart Math Institute,

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01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: and they have these gigantic sensors that measures the earth

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01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 1: electromagnetic field. Okay, So the hypothesis was, if we could

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Speaker 1: change the Earth's field, will it have an effect on

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: human behavior, like, will it produce some type of change

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: in the collective consciousness. So when we did that walk,

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: we saw the same thing happen that happened in the

1113
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: room with a random event generator, the same exact pattern

1114
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: they just went, and all of a sudden, about at

1115
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: forty five minutes in to the walk, you see this

1116
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: dramatic shift in the field of the Earth. So I

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know what it takes, but I do know that

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01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: an emergent consciousness that could form for humanity is going

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01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: to have to be a collective consciousness. It's not one soul,

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a collective network. And so just like that

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: flock of birds, just like that school of fish. You

1122
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: study that phenomenon in biology and you think there's some

1123
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: leader that everybody's foeling, but it's not a top down front.

1124
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: It's a bottom up from it, and everybody's leading. Everybody

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: is behaving in the same way in synchrony. And when

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: that happens, the appearance of a larger organism always takes place,

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: and the tribe comes together. Pro social network switch on

1128
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: on the brain. We move closer, we bond. We don't

1129
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: see we don't see any differences. We come together. We

1130
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: only see the vine in each other. And and our

1131
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: appreciation for life, our appreciation for the moment is enhanced

1132
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: from the experience as well.

1133
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Speaker 2: So powerful, I mean that that resonates so strongly. And yeah,

1134
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: it's definitely something to aspire to and work towards, something,

1135
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: something to something to kind of lock into creating in

1136
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: our small communities and not underestimating the value of our

1137
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: ordinariness and how powerful that can be and how extraordinary

1138
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: it can be when we're connected together.

1139
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think love is the nelue, right,

1140
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: you know that it's what bonds us. It's it's the

1141
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: magnetic force that draws things together. It's a it's a

1142
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: very limbic brained thing. And and and uh, falling in

1143
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: love with yourself, falling in love with life, falling in

1144
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: love with the future, you know, falling in love with

1145
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: the moment is what why we're here. I mean, that's

1146
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: what makes life beautiful. So in the world right now,

1147
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: the world needs everybody, The world needs you, The world

1148
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: needs me, and the world needs everybody to actually show

1149
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: up as the very change they want to see in

1150
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 1: the world. That means then you're going to have to

1151
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: do things that feel unnatural. That means when everybody else

1152
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: is angry and resentful, you're showing forgiveness. When everybody else

1153
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: is fearful and anxious, that's time to show courage. You know.

1154
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: When people are racing and rushing and competing to get

1155
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: to the top, that's when you stand still and draw

1156
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: the experience to you. And I think when you do

1157
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: that in the beginning, it feels unnatural. But that's how

1158
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: we become supernatural, right, That's how an emerging consciousness can

1159
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: actually form.

1160
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing that's really going to stay with

1161
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: me today is that I used to believe that the

1162
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: opposite of love was hate, but actually it's stress. Yeah,

1163
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: And because a lot of people will say I'm not

1164
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: a hateful person, but I think everyone will agree that

1165
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: they're a stressed out yet.

1166
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, fear is not the opposite of love, it's

1167
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: the separation from it. And you know, pain and suffering

1168
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: is not the opposite of love. It's a separation from it. Anger, hatred, hostility, violence,

1169
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: It's not the opposite of love, it's the separation from it.

1170
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: So then a person who begins to transform themselves. And

1171
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, we work with prisons, you know, thousands and

1172
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: thousands of prisoners, and these these are people that can't

1173
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: even close their eyes and meditate because their instinct tells

1174
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: them that something really horrible will happen to them because

1175
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: they've had a turbulent past. You see, prisoners come together,

1176
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: right and move out of stress, the absence of the

1177
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 1: addiction to the stress hormones. It's called joy. The body

1178
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: is free, it's no longer out of balance, and people

1179
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: come back into the balance of their They feel like

1180
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: themselves again. Like I feel like myself again. I got

1181
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: my life back. And I just read a testimonial from

1182
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: one of the veterans that we do the study on

1183
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: PTSD just last week and retreat that we did. These

1184
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: are people that had some pretty turbulent pasts, you know,

1185
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: and that were suicidal and they this guy said, I

1186
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: was ready to take my life, you know, I was

1187
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: ready that bills to end my own misery. And I

1188
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: feel completely different now I've got my life back, I

1189
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: got my family back, I got everything is different, right,

1190
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm different. I feel that I can't stop crying, like so,

1191
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: so the war ended. The war ended for him, you know,

1192
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: it ended like yeah, he's not an old soldier and

1193
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: now he's a new soldier. Right, it ended. It ended.

1194
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: So that person who tells the story of their mental

1195
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: health change, the person who tells the story of their

1196
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: change from their physical health condition, the person who tells

1197
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: the story that's gone from bankruptcy to abundance, the person

1198
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: who tells the story of how the synchronicity of them

1199
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: running into the person that would become the love of

1200
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: their life happened. When they stand on the stage and

1201
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: they tell the story to the collective, there's a change

1202
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: in consciousness because the person's becoming aware there's truth standing

1203
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: right on the stage. There's an example of truth that's

1204
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: telling them that somehow this person has changed and their

1205
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: life and their health has changed, their their future changed

1206
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: in some way. And that forem minute mile. Then the

1207
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: person that's speaking it is breaking through a certain level

1208
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: of consciousness or unconsciousness, and surely someone in the audience

1209
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: is going to relate with them. They're going to see,

1210
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: my goodness, if that person can do it, I can

1211
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: do it as well, Right, and that's when it gets

1212
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: really fun because that's when the person believes in themselves

1213
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more right in their belief and possibility

1214
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: is enhanced their able to make their change in a

1215
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: shorter amount of time. In other words, they're shortening the

1216
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: distance between the thought of what they want and the

1217
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: experience of having it when they do it properly. Right, So,

1218
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: get enough people together in an immersive experience in someone

1219
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: has that change or that breakthrough, you start seeing, like

1220
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 1: five people step out of a wheelchair and one event,

1221
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 1: two people blind, two people game to event blind, seeing

1222
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: at the end, seeing at the end of seven days.

1223
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. So the evidence and testimony is that formative moment,

1224
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: and people do the best with what they think is available.

1225
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: So if you don't know, or if you're not conscious

1226
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: of that possibility, you'll make the same choice, yes, And

1227
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: so when people become conscious of it now, they can

1228
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: begin to make a different choice. And I think, for

1229
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: as many crazy things that are going on in the world,

1230
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: and that's a whole other conversation, there's a lot of amazing,

1231
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: great for unbelievable things happening as well, like really amazing things,

1232
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we just got to hold on absolutely.

1233
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: Joe, thank you so much for coming back onto on purpose,

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: sharing your incredible research experiences. And this is going to

1235
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: be one of those ones that I'm going to probably

1236
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: listen to again with my eyes closed, because I think

1237
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: there were so many powerful parts that, especially around when

1238
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: we're trying to rewire our thoughts, when we're trying to,

1239
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: as you were saying, to feel and experience something before

1240
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: it happens. I think if we can really just take

1241
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: all of that in, and if we can start to

1242
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: construct our community around us, to build a collective consciousness

1243
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: that pushes us all forward, helps us change, I think

1244
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: we'll be onto something. So thank you so much. You're

1245
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 2: welcome your time, your energy, your presence.

1246
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: And make it an experiment. Yes, make an experiment. Don't

1247
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: make it have to make it a want to like Okay,

1248
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: let me just see if I change my energy, life change,

1249
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 1: If I change something about me a belief, a behavior,

1250
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: and emotion, should the should something in my life some

1251
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: event begin to change? That's when it becomes exciting, right,

1252
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: and now it's a it's an experiment.

1253
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, so the source is out right. Now you can

1254
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: go watch as well. The new doctor inventory with doctor

1255
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: Joe Despenser and Joe excited for so much more. Congratulations

1256
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: and all the retreats and workshops, and again, thank you

1257
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: so much for joining me on Purpose.

1258
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jane, I always appreciate it. Thank you, thank you.

1259
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: If this year you're trying to live longer, live happier,

1260
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: live healthier, go and check out my conversation with the

1261
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: world's biggest longevity doctor Peter Attia on how to slow

1262
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: down aging and why your emotional health is directly impacting

1263
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: your physical health.

1264
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: Acknowledge that there is surprisingly little known about the relationship

1265
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: between nutrition and health, and people are going to be

1266
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: shocked to hear that, because I think most people think

1267
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: the exact opposite,