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Speaker 2: This is episode sixty five of Native Lamp Pod. I
Speaker 2: just got on my louting gear because somebody's losing the government.
Speaker 4: Y'all want to guess who I am?
Speaker 6: Hello, Elon musk.
Speaker 4: Ding Ding ding ding Ding or maybe on one of
Speaker 4: his programs that gave it away. Wow, Andrew.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing racial anything you, especially in Black History Month.
Speaker 4: This is our This is our first Black History Month.
Speaker 7: Episode blackeded Black Black.
Speaker 4: If you don't count my live pod from yesterday.
Speaker 2: But happy Black History Month while the white people is
Speaker 2: looting and stealing things out the federal government.
Speaker 4: So, speaking of which, what are you talking about today, y'all?
Speaker 6: Wydeed, we got to talk about the federal government. We
Speaker 6: heard a lot of y'all's comments asking us the thievery
Speaker 6: and the federal government and the proposal to a lot
Speaker 6: of federal workers that they take these early buyouts and
Speaker 6: what the implication for that is, not only for the
Speaker 6: workers themselves, but society writ large.
Speaker 1: That's right and exclamation mark the black middle class that
Speaker 1: has been born into the DMV thanks to early careers
Speaker 1: at the government doing excellent work in an excellent way.
Speaker 8: Because why they earned it?
Speaker 4: How about that they did earn it?
Speaker 2: And speaking of did earn it, what we did earn
Speaker 2: is a huge fight on our hands because of the
Speaker 2: folks who chose to let the couch win in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four and also for the folks who chose to
Speaker 2: vote for the other side despite everybody telling you exactly
Speaker 2: what it was gonna be. We didn't need a crystal ball.
Speaker 2: We had twenty sixteen to go through twenty twenty to
Speaker 2: look into what Donald Trump was going to do. So
Speaker 2: we are going to talk about what this fight means,
Speaker 2: how we bring the fight to the feds, and what
Speaker 2: role we all play, what does it mean to play
Speaker 2: our position in this day and age while they are
Speaker 2: looting treasury, trying to get rid of leases at GSA, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 2: So so that is our rundown for today, and it's
Speaker 2: a very very special episode. We don't have cost to action,
Speaker 2: but we have a special tribute for someone very special.
Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, So this was yours that we were
Speaker 2: going to talk about these What was happening? What's happening
Speaker 2: with the federal government employees they're being offered to, you know,
Speaker 2: please go home, resign because Elon Musk wants to treat
Speaker 2: the federal government like X formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 4: So what's up with this?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's wild.
Speaker 1: Angela and Tiffany, and Tiffany, you and I can can
Speaker 1: co do this one because I know DC is resident
Speaker 1: home for you. So you know when you go out,
Speaker 1: everywhere you go, you're running into federal employees. I can
Speaker 1: I can not, but I could barely imagine what it
Speaker 1: is like, right, now working within this federal government. If
Speaker 1: you're at USAA AID USAID and you were called out
Speaker 1: by the richest man in the world as a criminal organization,
Speaker 1: the president then doubles.
Speaker 8: Down on that.
Speaker 1: I could imagine you feeling in some ways devastated, But
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know what I was
Speaker 1: told alone time ago. Check the source. Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: the source on this thing. And I think it's important,
Speaker 1: in recognition of Black History Month and in recognition of
Speaker 1: who it is that we're dealing with, to remind us
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk grew up and apartheid South Africa. When
Speaker 1: the United States finally determined its position against apartheid, thanks
Speaker 1: to the great lobbying work of members of the Congressional
Speaker 1: Black Caucus, it was USAID that went in really representing
Speaker 1: the United States government and began to create grant programs
Speaker 1: and set up institutions that could move people from this
Speaker 1: posts mid enslavement system where black folks were treated as
Speaker 1: the underclass and whites. In South Africa, the minority were
Speaker 1: obviously treated as those who were privileged. So Elon Musk
Speaker 1: grew up in an environment apartheid did not end until
Speaker 1: I think three years after he had graduated high school.
Speaker 1: So his exposure to us is through that lens, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately for him and all of his privilege, he's actually
Speaker 1: never had to really compete against us. And now he's
Speaker 1: in DC and he's seeing black folks scaling all kinds
Speaker 1: of walls, against all kinds of obstacles. And you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised, none of us, that they want to now
Speaker 1: pull the rug from underneath us. But to get that
Speaker 1: to the details of this package, because we are right
Speaker 1: now approaching the closing days for federal employees' ability to
Speaker 1: accept the offer that's been made by Elon Musk, supported
Speaker 1: by his vice president Donald Trump, and it essentially said
Speaker 1: that we encourage you to leave the government. And this email,
Speaker 1: by the way, we sent to two million federal employees
Speaker 1: never done. They can't recall a time where one individual
Speaker 1: email two million employees of the federal government offering them
Speaker 1: the opportunity to depart from the government. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you choose this option, you can go and you
Speaker 1: can work from home, and you can take leave, and
Speaker 1: we'll pay you all the way to September. Now, y'all,
Speaker 1: there are lots of reasons to raise an eyebrow to
Speaker 1: this kind of an offer. One, if the man is
Speaker 1: offering you this, know that on the back end he's
Speaker 1: getting triple, double, quadruple, you name it, benefits from it.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, y'all, we got to see this for
Speaker 1: what it is. This is their attempt to hollow out
Speaker 1: the government and the government employees who in DC they
Speaker 1: oftentimes kind of conflate with.
Speaker 8: People of color, black folk very specifically, who.
Speaker 1: Have gotten out of their place, have somehow been able
Speaker 1: to navigate this government work committed years, decades in some
Speaker 1: cases for folks to get where you are, only to
Speaker 1: be told by the least qualified people in the room
Speaker 1: that you didn't earn it. I want you to hear
Speaker 1: from one of the lawmakers at our federal level, who
Speaker 1: is speaking as a whole state representative. Let's hear from
Speaker 1: Senator Tim Kaine and hear his advice to federal employees,
Speaker 1: and then me and my colleagues will pick up on
Speaker 1: the other side of this and I have a conversation
Speaker 1: on our own.
Speaker 10: My advice to you today is simple, even if it's
Speaker 10: not easy. Don't give up. Don't give up. Keep serving
Speaker 10: every day folks. You are here because of your expertise.
Speaker 10: You are here because of your patriotism. You are here
Speaker 10: because you know the value in dedicating your life to
Speaker 10: serving your fellow Americans.
Speaker 8: America needs you.
Speaker 10: Donald Trump and cronies are determined to do anything they
Speaker 10: can to knock you off. Course, they've even dangled a
Speaker 10: phony buyout in your face. But make no mistake, that
Speaker 10: buyout is a trap. Donald Trump has no authority to
Speaker 10: offer you a resignation buyout. Don't trust a guy with
Speaker 10: a long history of stiffing contractors by taking him up
Speaker 10: on a sham deal that he won't follow through on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just so that was again.
Speaker 1: Senator Tim came from the state of Virginia, United States
Speaker 1: Senator and one of the distinction I want to point
Speaker 1: out here real quick is that this offer that Elon
Speaker 1: Musk made to federal government employees is almost a replica
Speaker 1: of the offer that he's sent to Twitter employees when
Speaker 1: it came under his ownership. I mean, they had to
Speaker 1: change a few lines, but by and large, it's pretty
Speaker 1: much the same communication that was sent to clear out
Speaker 1: that organization. But the reason why the present of the
Speaker 1: senator is warning you that this may be a sham
Speaker 1: deal is because the federal government is really just getting
Speaker 1: into the business of buyouts. The Clinton administration had to
Speaker 1: go to court to get signed off to offer folks
Speaker 1: up to twenty five thousand dollars for a buyout. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you work till September that you would exceed that amount.
Speaker 1: And it is right now contestable and there will be
Speaker 1: lawsuits on this as to whether or not the government
Speaker 1: could actually legally offer this at all. Angela, Tiff, y'all
Speaker 1: have worked around and in your case, Angela, within the government,
Speaker 1: how are y'all how do you processing this? And then
Speaker 1: also I'd be interested to hear what advice would you
Speaker 1: give to our friends folks. We don't know people who
Speaker 1: are holding it down at the federal level around how
Speaker 1: they ought to see this deal.
Speaker 2: I just really quick and tif, I don't won't talk long.
Speaker 2: I want you to be able to weigh in. I
Speaker 2: want to point out some facts here that are really important.
Speaker 2: So senators him came represents Virginia. As Andrew said, Virginia
Speaker 2: has the largest share only second to Maryland, of oh no,
Speaker 2: not even seconds to Maryland. Actually the largest share of
Speaker 2: federal government employees overall. There are four thousand more than
Speaker 2: four million federal government employees throughout the country. In Virginia specifically,
Speaker 2: there are one hundred and forty four thousand. That's not
Speaker 2: counting the folks who still benefit from federal retirement federal
Speaker 2: pension funds, which would all be compromised under this deal.
Speaker 2: So if they agreed to separate from the government, they
Speaker 2: will disqualify themselves from receiving their federal retirement. Most of
Speaker 2: the people that I know who are still in the
Speaker 2: federal government, if they didn't rotate on and off.
Speaker 4: The hill, they just stayed.
Speaker 2: And even for the folks who went back to Capitol Hill,
Speaker 2: they did it because of the federal government retirement plan,
Speaker 2: And so you forfeit that opportunity by doing this.
Speaker 4: The other thing that we.
Speaker 2: Should I want to throw into the mix here for
Speaker 2: your consideration is the folks that weren't offered the ability
Speaker 2: to retire but were summarily fired, some of them five
Speaker 2: months away from retirement, and they also are no longer
Speaker 2: eligible for that retirement because of a partisan firing. And
Speaker 2: I think all of this is horrible, it's not fair.
Speaker 2: People aren't necessarily thinking about consulting with their attorneys because
Speaker 2: They're like, I just want to get far away from
Speaker 2: what is to come. This doesn't look like the government
Speaker 2: that I signed up to work for, to defend, to protect,
Speaker 2: and to even have my name affiliated with this, my
Speaker 2: legacy affiliated with this. So they're trying to get away
Speaker 2: from it, not realizing all they're compromising to run away
Speaker 2: from it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: There, well, I think Angela can attest to this. It's
Speaker 6: interesting in Washington, DC, it's one of the only cities
Speaker 6: that takes on the personality of the administration in charge.
Speaker 6: And so when I first moved here, George W. Bush
Speaker 6: was coming in office, and the city took on that personality.
Speaker 6: When President Obama was in office, I mean, DC to
Speaker 6: me was one of the most amazing cities. You know,
Speaker 6: you had all these chefs from different embassies opening restaurants,
Speaker 6: and it was a thriving metropolis of young, innovative talent.
Speaker 6: You know, that was one of the things he did.
Speaker 6: Empowered a lot of young people and you know, different
Speaker 6: thinkers to be in these leadership positions. And then when
Speaker 6: Trump got in office, it felt very pose to apocalyptic.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys remember when Malanya decorated
Speaker 6: the White House for Christmas, and it was the red trees,
Speaker 6: I mean, just looked very strange and weird, and we
Speaker 6: had of course COVID and since then it's been a
Speaker 6: really interesting dynamic in DC. It feels like one I
Speaker 6: can understand what Angel's saying that you want to flee,
Speaker 6: and so what this is to me, there's the issue
Speaker 6: of the personality of DC that I think having the
Speaker 6: only thing that keeps the blood flowing in Washington, d C.
Speaker 6: It is the home of the federal government. So oftentimes
Speaker 6: d C is a city that does not feel impacted
Speaker 6: by or as impacted by unemployment numbers or you know,
Speaker 6: the job market because the home of the federal government.
Speaker 6: The other thing that why we should all be concerned
Speaker 6: is because essentially Elon Musk is firing people who would
Speaker 6: be in charge of regulating his multiple tentacles of business
Speaker 6: that he wants to do within the federal government, and
Speaker 6: so he will have free reign essentially over instituting policy
Speaker 6: bypassing any kind of congressional oversight, as we have already
Speaker 6: seen walking into buildings demanding without any security clearance, demanding
Speaker 6: to see things that are well above his intellectual level,
Speaker 6: well above his pay grade. And so that is the
Speaker 6: main thing I'm concerned about. I really hope people listen
Speaker 6: to what Angela said, what they would be giving up,
Speaker 6: what they'd be leaving on the table. I understand it's
Speaker 6: not the government that they chose uh to serve. And
Speaker 6: I think another thing that we have to be concerned
Speaker 6: about is how the federal government is being weaponized to
Speaker 6: serve Donald Trump. And so there, according to the reporting,
Speaker 6: there were people who were advised they said, listen, if
Speaker 6: you see somebody trying to cover up DEI, any initiatives
Speaker 6: that are focused on diverse city, equity, inclusion, disability, any
Speaker 6: of it by calling it another name or sneak it
Speaker 6: into the budget, please report that person. We are expecting
Speaker 6: you to report that person. And I just wonder, like
Speaker 6: we talked about, how long before that gets to outside
Speaker 6: the federal government, how long before it's you know, report
Speaker 6: your neighbors who are not MAGA. And I just I
Speaker 6: think the complacency that we're seeing in society, I don't
Speaker 6: know what it's going to take for people to hear
Speaker 6: the sound of the alarm. Just this morning there was
Speaker 6: a recall, or just this week, I should say, there
Speaker 6: was a recall on broccoli that it was like an urgent.
Speaker 6: It was urgently recalled. What'd you say?
Speaker 2: And I was just saying it was it was marked
Speaker 2: as deadly. It's a dead like a deadly recall at
Speaker 2: Walmart by one of the stores that decided to get
Speaker 2: rid of DEI if they would have kept us in broccoli,
Speaker 2: recalled exactly.
Speaker 6: But also this is a function of the f DA,
Speaker 6: you know, So without government instant tuitions, there are there
Speaker 6: are tangible consequences that we will be confronted with. And
Speaker 6: I don't think people, I think a lot of us
Speaker 6: who are engaged realize that. I don't think the masses
Speaker 6: are going to realize that until something devastating happens, which
Speaker 6: is is frightening to me.
Speaker 1: Uh, Tiff, It's interesting you talked about the the sort
Speaker 1: of culture shift, the mood shift, the vibe shift, if
Speaker 1: you will, that happens, do these transitions, and then you
Speaker 1: landed here on the oligarchs, right, the Trumps, in the
Speaker 1: in the in the Musks, attempting to turn employee co
Speaker 1: worker against coworker, making you read out each other and
Speaker 1: presumably to even get into their graces, right, so you
Speaker 1: be protected while you throw others under the bus. I
Speaker 1: already know that federal employees are smart enough to resist
Speaker 1: this most obvious play. Why because you all have served
Speaker 1: diligently on waiverly through democratic and Republican administrations. Y'all have
Speaker 1: survived presidents, in fact, many presidents and administrations. This one
Speaker 1: is different, obviously, because they want to burn the house down.
Speaker 1: This one is different because the enemy is within. To
Speaker 1: borrow a phrase from Donald Trump, the enemy is exactly
Speaker 1: the phrase the fox guarding the hen house. Can't be
Speaker 1: more apropos than this moment that we see right now
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and Elon Musk. They don't have respect
Speaker 1: for the jobs that we do because they don't respect government.
Speaker 1: Why because government regulates, Government holds them accountable. Government says, hey,
Speaker 1: if you produce something that hasn't been created and engineered
Speaker 1: with the safety of the American people in mind, nah,
Speaker 1: we're pulling that off the shelf.
Speaker 8: They don't want that.
Speaker 1: It costs them money, and they are They are fine
Speaker 1: with treating our lives as expendable so long as their
Speaker 1: profit margin continues to grow.
Speaker 8: And I I just I'll in here.
Speaker 1: And simply say I know it is not easy. I
Speaker 1: know it's hard. It's hard waking up each day looking
Speaker 1: at the news to see what new controversy has arrived.
Speaker 1: But y'all, you swore an oath to the Constitution, to
Speaker 1: this country of ours that we're still in the pursuit
Speaker 1: of making more perfect. You survive other days, and you
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna survive this one too. But we
Speaker 1: need you to hang in there because their greatest hope
Speaker 1: is that you take this offer. You leave the government,
Speaker 1: and you get replaced with a loyalist and acolyte of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump who takes a loyalty oath to watch out for.
Speaker 8: Him and have his back.
Speaker 1: And what we need are people like y'all who have
Speaker 1: the American people's back. So good luck, and we're here
Speaker 1: for you. I know, all right, y'all, we just heard
Speaker 1: the problem and there are many and when we get back.
Speaker 8: On the other side of this break, we'll talk some solutions.
Speaker 9: Stay with us.
Speaker 2: We have a question that we want to get to
Speaker 2: from the audience. We got a lot of audience feedback today,
Speaker 2: and so we want to make sure we get to
Speaker 2: as much NLP fam as we can because you know
Speaker 2: this is your safe space too.
Speaker 4: So let's roll that question. Hello there, Native Lampard.
Speaker 11: I love you guys.
Speaker 12: This is Charlene here.
Speaker 4: I just have a question.
Speaker 12: I wonder, and I apologize if you've already answered it,
Speaker 12: but what do you think is the plan for Democrats?
Speaker 11: Of what should be the plan?
Speaker 12: I find it very concerning that there isn't some organized
Speaker 12: effort to combat Trump at every turn, someone that speaks
Speaker 12: out in real time against what he's saying, what he's doing,
Speaker 12: and presenting the alternative. He was questioned about the economy,
Speaker 12: and this man, the President of the United States, actually
Speaker 12: shrugged his shoulders and looks like, you know, people will
Speaker 12: understand and people will not understand. People are afraid, people
Speaker 12: are anxious, people are distracted, which is I'm sure part
Speaker 12: of the plan, and you know, it's just craziness. I
Speaker 12: don't know if.
Speaker 11: This duty will be rotated since a true and definitive
Speaker 11: leader doesn't seem to have emerged as is yet, So
Speaker 11: I don't know, just wondering what's the plan? What do
Speaker 11: you guys think it should be? Thank you, Welcome.
Speaker 6: Home, Welcome home. That well, she did ask about a leader,
Speaker 6: and I just want to say I know that we
Speaker 6: ask you guys about leaders. We are going to get
Speaker 6: to your top five. Angela had a great idea to
Speaker 6: ask that question about your top five leaders. We're going
Speaker 6: to drop that on our mini pod, So we're not
Speaker 6: gonna get into that now, but be sure to check
Speaker 6: out mini pod that drops on Monday, talking about top
Speaker 6: five leaders who you would send to go to the
Speaker 6: White House. But Angela, I love her question. Curious your
Speaker 6: thoughts on the fight because of all the people I know,
Speaker 6: I think everybody's been engaged a lot, but you've been
Speaker 6: passionately engaged across a lot of efforts. So curious your thoughts.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking back even to our conversation
Speaker 2: last week about a boycott around Target, and my frustration
Speaker 2: with that boycott is no different than what it is here.
Speaker 2: You know, I even I shuddered even say the term
Speaker 2: resistance now, but I feel like that's what it is.
Speaker 2: And so when I think about resistance, I have to
Speaker 2: think about what are we resisting?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 4: And you could say Donald Trump? But what about Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: Are you resisting?
Speaker 2: You know, when I think about all of the fights,
Speaker 2: when you know, when you're in fight modes, sometimes you
Speaker 2: forget who your actual enemy is and you can sometimes
Speaker 2: turn your fire towards the people you love, and now
Speaker 2: it becomes a friendly fire dynamic. You kill off the
Speaker 2: very person, the very ally that you need because you
Speaker 2: agree with them seventy five percent at the time and
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent of the time. So I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about what's happening right now and where the fight should
Speaker 2: be mounted. So to me, it is there are nominations
Speaker 2: before the United States Senate. Those nominations are of people
Speaker 2: who truly didn't earn it, who truly and for the
Speaker 2: most part, are unqualified. And being very careful with my
Speaker 2: language because this is a very litigious administration, and so
Speaker 2: they don't appear to be qualified. They appear to have
Speaker 2: positions that will end up being harmful to the American people.
Speaker 4: Tip just talked about the role of the FDA.
Speaker 2: So that's a Senate fight. When you think about the House,
Speaker 2: the House is responsible for the purse strings of this
Speaker 2: cunta constitutionally visa v appropriations measures. Also in concert with
Speaker 2: the Senate, there's a fight to mount in terms of
Speaker 2: how money is being spent and not spent by the
Speaker 2: federal government. That is a fight that's in the House.
Speaker 2: When you think about for the fight for the people.
Speaker 2: You always have to remember that the people who are
Speaker 2: elected to serve you in the House and the Senate,
Speaker 2: really at every level of government, but right now we're
Speaker 2: talking about the federal level. Those folks have an obligation
Speaker 2: to answer your call, to be responsive to your needs
Speaker 2: and to meet your demands. The role of the people
Speaker 2: is to make calls, to send emails, to show up
Speaker 2: and let people know, like Ayanala did in that gift
Speaker 2: not on my watch.
Speaker 4: That wasn't as loud as I wanted it to be.
Speaker 2: But y'all understand when I think about the other things
Speaker 2: that are happening, the distractions, the distractions that we see
Speaker 2: on social media, the distractions are misinformation. The distractions are
Speaker 2: the ways in which we are divided because we I
Speaker 2: don't agree on every single issue. The distractions are on
Speaker 2: how to fight. I don't like the way that you're fighting,
Speaker 2: you know, or your fight isn't the way that I
Speaker 2: would fight. Those are the distractions. And so if we
Speaker 2: can peel back all the layers of the onion and
Speaker 2: say what is the fight, what are our demands, and
Speaker 2: now what is my role to play? I think that's
Speaker 2: what we have to do in this moment. And we
Speaker 2: clearly got to take a step back now, y'all. I
Speaker 2: know we did a whole podcast on what is Project
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five thanks to Andrew Tip.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to make sure that on the solo
Speaker 2: pods on Tuesday, I am going back to like, this
Speaker 2: is what it said in Project twenty twenty five. Here
Speaker 2: is the page number. I found my nine hundred page binder, y'all,
Speaker 2: because I wasn't about to pay for that book. So
Speaker 2: I spend two hundred dollars on the binder because I
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna give him the money.
Speaker 4: Right, Like, I literally am trying to go back to it.
Speaker 2: So if we can constantly reset and refocus on our
Speaker 2: what I think we can get to a better how
Speaker 2: So that's where I am right now. I hate to
Speaker 2: be that granular, but I think it's important for us
Speaker 2: to understand it as a matter of strategy. We can't
Speaker 2: talk about a strategy if we don't even agree on
Speaker 2: what the fight is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I loved your framing their angela around,
Speaker 1: just sort of taking this. The beauty of going back
Speaker 1: and looking at Project twenty twenty five is not.
Speaker 8: Anything other than to reduce the.
Speaker 1: Shock value of their actions because right now, every day
Speaker 1: they get on TV, every day they wake up, every
Speaker 1: time Trump must tweet. Whatever they do, their intention is
Speaker 1: to overwhelm us by their sheer force and will that
Speaker 1: they don't give us about any of the rules of
Speaker 1: the game. And the truth is, y'all, my frustration has
Speaker 1: so much been about the fact that the system seems
Speaker 1: not to be able to reinforce its own rules. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, if it's illegal for Elon Must to go
Speaker 1: in and occupy the treasuries back in system to have
Speaker 1: access to information about every single American in this country,
Speaker 1: our most private, our most protected information, if he can
Speaker 1: do that, and the only thing we can hear from
Speaker 1: members of Congress.
Speaker 8: Is that's flatly illegal.
Speaker 1: But he still got access to the system, and it's
Speaker 1: still doing whatever he wants to do. It seems that
Speaker 1: the systems fail safe, ain't catching nothing. The feil safe
Speaker 1: is not a fel safe at all. And if I
Speaker 1: were to, I think all of us have been in
Speaker 1: a bit of a malaise after the election. Some of
Speaker 1: it disbelief, a lot of it disappointment and hurt, some
Speaker 1: of it blame around who's responsible for what and why
Speaker 1: we lost. Some of it is denial that we even lost,
Speaker 1: and something is still amiss in the system, and all
Speaker 1: of that is fine, but I think we've had a
Speaker 1: really hard time pivoting off of that devastation to believing
Speaker 1: what they actually said to us when they ran. And
Speaker 1: now my question is did any of the Democrats who
Speaker 1: went out and caped for the Democratic ticket believe what
Speaker 1: we were telling the voters. Did we believe that this
Speaker 1: man was a threat to democracy, that we believed Project
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five was their blueprint and they intended to
Speaker 1: implement it. Because if we believed it, it seems to
Speaker 1: me the time between the transitions should have been on
Speaker 1: how it is that we have a game plan that
Speaker 1: catches them at every single step of the way. And
Speaker 1: I got to admit Angela and Tiffany this week was
Speaker 1: the first time I feel like I saw Democrats stiffen
Speaker 1: a spine a little bit. The protests over at three
Speaker 1: of our departments in Washington, DC, led by members of
Speaker 1: Congress and attended by hundreds thousands of people, And then
Speaker 1: I saw Senator Brian Schatz say I am going to
Speaker 1: shut down all confirmations for any appointments at the United
Speaker 1: States Department of State until the money for USAA is reinforced.
Speaker 8: He can do that.
Speaker 1: I gave you an example last week of the Republican example,
Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville, of holding up all military appointments, and he
Speaker 1: did it for months on end.
Speaker 8: So shacks on the Democratic side.
Speaker 7: You know what, this is not business as usual.
Speaker 1: We're not confirming people to the State Department until the
Speaker 1: State Department relinquishes its control over an agency that was
Speaker 1: established by the United States Congress and appropriated their budget
Speaker 1: by the US Congress. Your job is to push send
Speaker 1: on the check. That's it at this stage, because it's
Speaker 1: been signed and passed into law. So the resistance can't
Speaker 1: just be However, at congressional levels, we need mayors, we
Speaker 1: need community leaders, we need school board members. There are
Speaker 1: over a half a dozen, maybe two dozen Republican congressional
Speaker 1: seats that are in compromised districts that can go Democratic.
Speaker 1: There are to be strategies the Democratic Party locally in
Speaker 1: each one of those congressional districts, be holding town hall
Speaker 1: meetings and activating every time that Republican member votes against
Speaker 1: their district's interests. Those are just some examples of ways
Speaker 1: that we can engage. But it's not just one level
Speaker 1: of engagement.
Speaker 8: We got to.
Speaker 1: Drill down if we're trying to have the kind of
Speaker 1: impact that we know we need.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Andrew, first of all, I just think it's really
Speaker 6: helpful insight to have both you guys, because Angela your
Speaker 6: work in government mostly I know you've worked across several sectors,
Speaker 6: but it's mostly been on the federal side. And Andrew,
Speaker 6: your expertise, even though you've obviously dealt with federal government
Speaker 6: as well, has been on the local side. So I
Speaker 6: think this is really insightful information for not only our
Speaker 6: audience but elected officials. I will tell you, guys, I
Speaker 6: am a bit concern because it is how do you
Speaker 6: fight this? You brought up Elon Musk. We talked about
Speaker 6: him at the beginning of the show, and I'm thinking
Speaker 6: about his multiple, multiple tentacles and across business, and I
Speaker 6: do I feel like Congress is a bit feckless. Must
Speaker 6: Rocket companies they effectively dictate the NASA schedule, now, the
Speaker 6: DoD the Department of Defense, they depend on Musk technologies
Speaker 6: to get most of its satellites in orbit. His companies
Speaker 6: have three billion dollars across nearly one hundred different contracts
Speaker 6: with seventeen different federal agencies, some of them that he's
Speaker 6: trying to dismantle. His companies have been targeted and at
Speaker 6: least twenty recent investigations, including the safety over his Tesla cars.
Speaker 6: Anytime I call for a car and it's a Tesla,
Speaker 6: I cancel. And in this new role, he'll have the
Speaker 6: power to recommend wide ranging cuts, which he has been doing.
Speaker 6: And it's we're essentially giving the world's richest man, a
Speaker 6: government contractor, the ability to regulate the regulators who would
Speaker 6: hold him accountable for any of these things. It is
Speaker 6: overwhelming to combat. It's overwhelming to combat that. And so
Speaker 6: when you guys, when I hear you guys, That's why
Speaker 6: I wanted to start by saying, it's so effective to
Speaker 6: hear you talk about it, I have to tell you.
Speaker 6: For me, when people start talking to me about mid terms,
Speaker 6: they start talking about Congress, they start talking about the
Speaker 6: Democrats gonna do. I don't. I'm not even in it.
Speaker 6: The we I'm talking about is our community. And I
Speaker 6: think a lot of people want to know what do
Speaker 6: lay people do if I'm not you know, a politician.
Speaker 6: If I'm sitting here watching this happen, what do we do?
Speaker 6: My thought has always been, we have to give people
Speaker 6: something to believe in again, because so many people are
Speaker 6: checked out, and I don't know how we get people
Speaker 6: to pay attention before it's too late, because we're going
Speaker 6: to see tangible, palpable things happen that are going to
Speaker 6: devastate all Americans, but us first. It's gonna devastate Black
Speaker 6: folks first, and it's gonna hurt us the hardest. And
Speaker 6: so I think if we, you know, we try to
Speaker 6: do the best we can here at Native lampod with
Speaker 6: informing people. We had a call and you know, we
Speaker 6: were all complaining and Michael Harriet, who you know is
Speaker 6: a writer and is a great journalist, he had a
Speaker 6: really good point that made me so outraged, and I
Speaker 6: want to share it. I wanted to share it like
Speaker 6: it was my own original thought, but it's not. It
Speaker 6: was Michael Harriet's. But he was basically talking about after
Speaker 6: white folks have stolen so much from Black people, including
Speaker 6: our labor, our culture, our ideas across the board, they're
Speaker 6: stealing your money right now, they are taking money from
Speaker 6: U HBCUs they taking money from you. Alphas omegas aka Dela,
Speaker 6: They taking money from you to give it to Delta
Speaker 6: Delta Kai or whatever. They shutting y'all down, Black folks
Speaker 6: who depend on a range of services. They taking money
Speaker 6: from you to fill the pockets of people who don't
Speaker 6: even need it. They are enriching themselves. And to me,
Speaker 6: even that simple enough message is enough to outrage people
Speaker 6: from the bottom up. I think when Democrats start talking
Speaker 6: about policy, and you know, it gets when you start
Speaker 6: incorporating complicated government language. People in the two now and
Speaker 6: they're already pissed off. We have amazing leaders like Congressmen
Speaker 6: Ayana Presley who we know and love, congress Woman Jasmine Crockett,
Speaker 6: who have the ability to speak very plainly and make
Speaker 6: it digestible. But I just think a lot of people
Speaker 6: feel outraged or they feel despondent, and they want to
Speaker 6: know what to do with it. And I'm just am
Speaker 6: curious you all's perspective. What do you say to those people?
Speaker 6: The people who might not they might not have capacity
Speaker 6: to call Congress eight hundred times, maybe once or twice
Speaker 6: a week, but like, they are pissed now and they
Speaker 6: want to take it to the streets. I don't know
Speaker 6: if marches is the thing. I don't know if blocking
Speaker 6: traffic on the four or five is the thing. Maybe
Speaker 6: I don't know. But do y'all have any thoughts about that.
Speaker 4: I think that you brought up Congressman and Pressle. I
Speaker 4: think we should go to her.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is everybody's role isn't the same,
Speaker 2: and so you play your position. So here is Congressmoman
Speaker 2: and Pressley playing her position at a rally. And I
Speaker 2: do want to give credit where credit is due. These
Speaker 2: rallies and convenience have been organized by move On and Indivisible,
Speaker 2: and the members of Congress showed up to play their
Speaker 2: position in front of the Department of Treasury yesterday.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead roll there.
Speaker 14: As a pod member of the Committee on Overside, I'm
Speaker 14: here for some real.
Speaker 15: Time congressional oversight. This is an unprecedented moment, a constitutional crisis.
Speaker 4: But we will match their energy.
Speaker 15: With unprecedented organizing, marbiligy, mobilizing, agitating. We will see you
Speaker 15: in the courts and Congress and the streets.
Speaker 14: Elon Musk is a not seen not BA baby, a godless,
Speaker 14: lawless billionaire hello, would elected any law. This is the
Speaker 14: American people.
Speaker 7: This is not your trashy.
Speaker 14: Cyber truck that you can just dismantle.
Speaker 16: The part and so up.
Speaker 17: And I want to say to Republican colleagues.
Speaker 4: At senship.
Speaker 6: Will here to say in the hopes that you will.
Speaker 15: See the light, but if you do not see the light,
Speaker 15: we will bring the fire.
Speaker 6: I got goose bumps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was so powerful.
Speaker 2: And I think that as frustrating as it is to
Speaker 2: have to stop pause for a moment to figure out
Speaker 2: the approach, it's clear that there has not been a consistent,
Speaker 2: cohesive approach. We know that there has been a lot
Speaker 2: of internal within the Democratic Party. Hell even just this
Speaker 2: past weekend with these elections, many people don't even know
Speaker 2: who Ken Martin is, the new DNC chair.
Speaker 4: What is his strategy?
Speaker 2: Is he working with Democratic leadership in the House or
Speaker 2: the Senate to come up with an approach. Why aren't
Speaker 2: they sitting in on the House floor saying it won't
Speaker 2: be another damn bill that passes until you get this
Speaker 2: dude under control. The Senate side, it won't be another
Speaker 2: nomination that nobody will get confirmed until you do right
Speaker 2: by your taxpayers. There is a clear to me approach
Speaker 2: that is about putting your body on the line in
Speaker 2: ways where most of our members have already had to
Speaker 2: do that. We have some brand new elected senators. Every
Speaker 2: time I think about Lisa Lisa Blunt Rochester, the first
Speaker 2: image I have of her is her praying feverishly on
Speaker 2: January sixth, and now she's got to do this all
Speaker 2: over again. The insurrection looks different, but it is an
Speaker 2: insurrection no less. And so we have to be clear
Speaker 2: about what is our collective call call.
Speaker 4: Our first call is to unify. It is to get
Speaker 4: on the same page.
Speaker 2: Whether you are a Republican, Democrat, independent, a libertarian, whatever,
Speaker 2: you should want to protect your hard earned money.
Speaker 4: You should want to protect your taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2: Did you sign up to pay for Elon Musk six
Speaker 2: coders to come in and have full, unfettered access to
Speaker 2: the Treasury payment systems?
Speaker 4: Probably not, regardless of your party.
Speaker 2: And so I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we have to look at the fact we don't have
Speaker 2: the executive branch. The executive branch is now run by
Speaker 2: an oligarchy. It's a monarchy, it's all type of it's
Speaker 2: a problem We don't have the legislative branch, but we
Speaker 2: have places.
Speaker 4: Andrew rays such a good point. We have places where
Speaker 4: we can lean in those Republican members who just barely
Speaker 4: won in mostly blue districts. Who are those people? We
Speaker 4: should be putting them up on our social media.
Speaker 2: Blow them up, let them know you're going to be
Speaker 2: right there at every town hall meeting, at every public
Speaker 2: appearance in their district, letting them know that if they.
Speaker 4: Don't sign up to protect democracy, this is gonna be
Speaker 4: their last term.
Speaker 2: Hell, it might be all of our last term. But
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We do have the judicial brands,
Speaker 2: use it. There are a number, there are even Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan appointed judges, confirmed judges who are stopping Donald Trump
Speaker 2: because it's too far. So we have got to utilize
Speaker 2: every single tool because guess what, y'all, Just like democracy
Speaker 2: is fragile, so are the tools. So if we don't
Speaker 2: immediately use what we have at our disposal, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be in trouble.
Speaker 6: Well, we talked a bit about Andrews actually kicking you.
Speaker 8: I just, I just I would say a man, and
Speaker 8: then give it back.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well I'm giving it back to you. I'm passing
Speaker 6: the mike to you because we were talking about this
Speaker 6: a little bit before we record on our conversation, and
Speaker 6: we talked about the buyers remorse that some people are having.
Speaker 6: Now Angela just made I think a really good point,
Speaker 6: a challenging point for us to accept, but a point
Speaker 6: about friendly fire, you know, because you don't like twenty
Speaker 6: five percent of what somebody said, like you, you know,
Speaker 6: we're cut off, or you think, well, your community voted
Speaker 6: overwhelmingly for this. So I'm not gonna help and I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna share in your outrage. I'm a wait till
Speaker 6: it comes to me. And I do think we have
Speaker 6: to set that aside on some level. You know, we
Speaker 6: this week Donald Trump and and Prime Minister Netanyah who
Speaker 6: wasn't was in town and just what they have planned
Speaker 6: for Gaza. It's basically an intention to displace one point
Speaker 6: eight million people Palestinians who call Gaza home, and Trump
Speaker 6: has described it as turning it into the Riviera of
Speaker 6: the Middle East. There's no solid plan on what this
Speaker 6: looks like. There's no he said, you know, well, we
Speaker 6: have to go to other countries with humanitarian efforts and
Speaker 6: see if the Palatinians can live there. There's no plan
Speaker 6: on how to do that. But also it's not even
Speaker 6: your place to do that. It's just so awful. And
Speaker 6: so we talked, Okay, well let's let's play the clip
Speaker 6: and then I'll pick up on the other side.
Speaker 7: It is illegal, yeah, illegal.
Speaker 18: I would like to see Jordan, I'd like to see
Speaker 18: Egypt take some look. The Gaza thing has not worked.
Speaker 18: It's never worked. And I feel very differently about Gaza
Speaker 18: than a lot of people. I think they should get
Speaker 18: a good, fresh, beautiful piece of land and we get
Speaker 18: some people to put up the money to build it
Speaker 18: and make it nice and make it habitable. And I
Speaker 18: don't know how they could want to stay. It's it's
Speaker 18: it's a demolition side.
Speaker 1: Not amounts of forcibly displacing those people from Godzas.
Speaker 9: I don't think so.
Speaker 18: I think if they had the opportunity, they'd love it,
Speaker 18: if they had an alternative together. They have no alternative
Speaker 18: right now. I mean they're there because they have no alternative.
Speaker 9: What do they have?
Speaker 18: It is a big pile of rubble right now. I mean,
Speaker 18: have you seen the pictures of it? Have you been there?
Speaker 18: It's to live? Who can live like that and very dangerous.
Speaker 18: A shooting all over the place is bombing all over
Speaker 18: the place on both sides. No, I would think if
Speaker 18: they had an option of moving to an either in
Speaker 18: a large group or various smaller groups and take care
Speaker 18: of the close to two million people, I would think
Speaker 18: that they would be thrilled.
Speaker 1: This is exhibit A listeners of why you do not
Speaker 1: want to take history out of public education. But also
Speaker 1: the ridiculous man's comments were completely void of the fact
Speaker 1: that the Palestinian people who he's talking about redeveloping and
Speaker 1: making the riviera, have been occupied in my brisk land.
Speaker 1: And the greater is the greater. What we now know
Speaker 1: today is Israel for centuries. This is their land, and
Speaker 1: people who don't understand have no appreciation for history, and
Speaker 1: a people's who could say something that's flagrant as we'll
Speaker 1: put them away, you know, cinem elsewhere.
Speaker 7: No, da da dah.
Speaker 8: This is not going to work. Who the hell are
Speaker 8: you let.
Speaker 1: Me say this Palestine, the Gaza is sovereign territory. Sovereign
Speaker 1: you If anybody across the country, across the world listened
Speaker 1: to Trump, Yet at that press conference, they could only
Speaker 1: conclude one thing, and that is that the United States
Speaker 1: of America is now a rogue nation, a rogue nation
Speaker 1: who does not conform to international norms, treaties, and laws.
Speaker 6: We stand alone on the global stage.
Speaker 8: As a well.
Speaker 1: No, we got good company going down there with Maduro, right,
Speaker 1: hang out over there with Poop Kim Jung Ouh's got
Speaker 1: a place for you, right.
Speaker 7: Those are the kinds of.
Speaker 1: People who we are now lining up side by side
Speaker 1: with holding hands because they are also despots, just like
Speaker 1: the despot that we have as president of the United States.
Speaker 1: What is what, Tiffany, to your question around what do
Speaker 1: we do with those folks who we know, communities who
Speaker 1: we know could have performed differently in the life.
Speaker 6: Like some of the Palestinians and their protest vote.
Speaker 1: It could all look different, right, I would have to say,
Speaker 1: not only, we're not burying the hatchet here. What we're
Speaker 1: saying is is that divided, none of us will be
Speaker 1: able to stand divided, none of us. We're all fodder.
Speaker 1: We're all food on the plate for them to devour.
Speaker 1: So in this moment we got to come together. But
Speaker 1: but but but know this, I need you to remember
Speaker 1: that I'm coming to have your back right now. And
Speaker 1: I need this to inform you and the folks who
Speaker 1: you have influence over the next cycle, because we've got
Speaker 1: congressional races and this and that and go down the list.
Speaker 1: But this is not a carte blanche live and let live.
Speaker 1: This is I'm with you on this. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you this much. I need you to remember this moment.
Speaker 1: Sketch it in your brain, on your heart, and in
Speaker 1: your hand so that the next cycle you're not sitting
Speaker 1: out here post selection with your regrets and stay homes
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Why because you saw
Speaker 1: the bigger picture and recognized that this is a formula
Speaker 1: that we just have to work to our advantage and
Speaker 1: we will creep along and make progress as we can.
Speaker 6: You got, Angela.
Speaker 2: I just have to so I'm I'm for you know.
Speaker 2: I was on the pre production call. I'm for unity.
Speaker 2: I just got to get something off my chest. And
Speaker 2: I've been doing really good and not cussing on this podcast,
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you now I'm about to cuss.
Speaker 4: So please bleep it. Where the fuck is Jill Stein's
Speaker 4: bitch ass? Where is Jill Stein? Because my question is
Speaker 4: you had all of this.
Speaker 2: Iire and fire for what was happening with the Palestinian people,
Speaker 2: as you should have. Your dumb ass got on a
Speaker 2: podcast and called me a a black face in a
Speaker 2: high place.
Speaker 4: You had all of.
Speaker 2: This smoke for Kamala Harris, and you still ain't said
Speaker 2: a goddamn thing about Donald Trump or this administration. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: he's done exactly what Jared Kushner said he was going
Speaker 2: to do, which is to have a plan to develop
Speaker 2: this area so it's beachfront property. And these people are
Speaker 2: still suffering, and you are silent. You are complicit with
Speaker 2: this man.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not even trying.
Speaker 2: To come at all of the people who voted for her,
Speaker 2: who stayed at home, which also I'm very, very frustrated by.
Speaker 2: But I want to be so clear about the fact
Speaker 2: that this is the problem. If a motherfucker comes around
Speaker 2: every four years, well all kinds of shit, but they
Speaker 2: can't protest when your money is getting hijacked, Federal dollars
Speaker 2: are being frozen. American people still can't afford these damn eggs,
Speaker 2: and you're silent. Be clear about who they are. Don't
Speaker 2: you ever come at me again. My work's be for itself.
Speaker 2: Whether we're in cycle or out of cycle. Don't you ever,
Speaker 2: God damn come for me again now to unity you
Speaker 2: and it why I just got to get ahead. I
Speaker 2: just am saying you, guys, I know now we have
Speaker 2: to move forward. We cannot sit and I told you so,
Speaker 2: because that I told you so puts us in the
Speaker 2: very harm tip that you talked about.
Speaker 4: We, our people can't afford.
Speaker 2: To sit on the sidelines and be harmed, because to
Speaker 2: your point, our people will be harmed first. So my
Speaker 2: question is, if the other side strategy is to steal,
Speaker 2: to kill, to destroy, just like the devil, what is
Speaker 2: our strategy to counter that?
Speaker 4: What is our.
Speaker 2: Strategy not only to respond, but to prepare so that
Speaker 2: we're not on our heels the next time this is coming.
Speaker 2: We've got to figure out how to not let the
Speaker 2: perfect be the enemy of the good. We just got
Speaker 2: to and I hate to continue to talk about harm
Speaker 2: mitigation and harm reduction and our votes. We should get
Speaker 2: abundance and winover re vote because of all that we've
Speaker 2: given to this country.
Speaker 4: That's exhausting. But also here we are.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't want to be coming from going from
Speaker 2: trauma to trauma. Yeah, you know, like this ain't it either,
Speaker 2: So we gotta figure it out.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the question. I say this because I think
Speaker 6: this is something you were hitting on Andrew about, you know, unity.
Speaker 6: And I think Black women in particular have been great
Speaker 6: organizers because when we organize, we do it for the
Speaker 6: greater good of community. And I understand black women that
Speaker 6: y'all are tired, because I'm tired. We tied. You know,
Speaker 6: we a is tired of the bullshit like we are tired.
Speaker 6: But the country benefits from us saving ourselves. We're not
Speaker 6: out here trying to die as sickophants for our country
Speaker 6: who still causes us harm. We are out here saving ourselves.
Speaker 6: We're saving our husbands, our sons, our daughters, our families,
Speaker 6: our parents, our grandchildren, the future generations of us who
Speaker 6: have yet to be born. And sometimes that is going
Speaker 6: to cause us to dip into a cause because we
Speaker 6: are trying to stop the train from running us over.
Speaker 6: And if it's fifteen people in front of me, I
Speaker 6: need to stop the train from running you over, because
Speaker 6: after that train knocked you down, it's coming for me.
Speaker 6: And I think we have to change. I get it.
Speaker 6: We pissed off, We pissed off. After the election, we
Speaker 6: looking at everybody like we ninety two percent, what the
Speaker 6: fuck were y'all doing? You know, we get that you
Speaker 6: showed up. Did you get into your group chat and
Speaker 6: bring your mama, your cousins, your auntie? Did y'all do
Speaker 6: it like we've been doing this forever? Like how many
Speaker 6: times did we have to do it for y'all to
Speaker 6: get the message. Kim Blackwell made the point we got
Speaker 6: to talk to white women now. And when I say
Speaker 6: we got to talk to white women, that does not
Speaker 6: include Yeah, that is not my ministry in it. I'm
Speaker 6: not good for that. That's not Angela's ministry. That's not
Speaker 6: good for that. It might not be Andrew's ministry. And
Speaker 6: we don't know.
Speaker 7: Look, I ain't talking.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is when you do show up at
Speaker 1: the meeting, and now we're all in emergency mode because
Speaker 1: you're coming down your street or your.
Speaker 7: Block on your way, I'm gonna we're gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, We're gonna be there for the
Speaker 1: fight that impacts us collectively. We will be there for
Speaker 1: the fights that impact us collectively, but you will be
Speaker 1: called to the carpet. We're going to remember in this
Speaker 1: moment that remember how you feel right now?
Speaker 6: Right, Well, I just I just want to I just
Speaker 6: want to finish the other point about it's not just
Speaker 6: white women, because there's also the Latino community, you know,
Speaker 6: and that we don't talk a lot about because white
Speaker 6: run newsrooms still center white folks, but the Latino community
Speaker 6: is very disaggregated, you know, different countries of origin, different philosophies,
Speaker 6: but they splintered heavily towards Republicans. Somebody got to talk
Speaker 6: to that ain't my my ministry either. I'm quicker to
Speaker 6: do that before I could could with white women, but
Speaker 6: I don't know enough. I'm a guest of the community,
Speaker 6: not a member of it. So y'all need to talk
Speaker 6: amongst yourselves and we will do what Weekend Palestinians with
Speaker 6: their protest vote. Somebody got to talk to Palestinian people
Speaker 6: like we really do have to take on the Fred
Speaker 6: Hampton approach. Poor white folks. Somebody got to talk the
Speaker 6: poor white folks. That ain't my ministry, you know. I'll
Speaker 6: echo Dave Chappelle when he said, of all the whites,
Speaker 6: the poors are the worst because they really don't us right,
Speaker 6: and they are the like obviously their exceptions to this rule,
Speaker 6: but a lot of them feel like I'm in this
Speaker 6: situation because of you. When when the wealthiest white man
Speaker 6: laughing at all of us, they don't have no community
Speaker 6: for you, that you think Elon give a shit about you.
Speaker 6: It was Virginia, he don't care great exactly exactly. So
Speaker 6: I don't know how we do those conversations. Something that
Speaker 6: Angela you said when we were at Kim Blackwell's conference
Speaker 6: in Miami and we were talking about being tired, and
Speaker 6: this is before the election. We were talking about being tired,
Speaker 6: and you made a good point and said, well, maybe
Speaker 6: everybody's not tired in the same way. So I know,
Speaker 6: if it's not my ministry to talk to white women,
Speaker 6: if you got the patients and tolerance for it, then
Speaker 6: that's that's your ministry, like right now. But we have
Speaker 6: to give people something to believe in. And something has
Speaker 6: to uh to outrage us before before it's massive loss
Speaker 6: of life, before it's acts of violence. Something has to
Speaker 6: bring us to outrage for us to bring this country
Speaker 6: to unity and for us to unite and fight. And
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is, but I know every
Speaker 6: week on this podcast, we will have these discussions, try
Speaker 6: to figure it out, and if y'all got ideas, we
Speaker 6: want to hear from you two about it.
Speaker 2: I want somebody to start a petition and make sure
Speaker 2: just signed on run over never again.
Speaker 4: That's what I want. That's a good starter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And more importantly to people who actually went and
Speaker 1: sacrificed their vote that direction, see what you got for it?
Speaker 9: All?
Speaker 8: Right? Where they at now? You look into the left,
Speaker 8: right behind you, side front.
Speaker 4: They ain't know where to be treated you like a
Speaker 4: load dollar.
Speaker 7: Hello, or useful tool right because we don't know what's
Speaker 7: there there around her and.
Speaker 8: What always there.
Speaker 1: But let me one thing I just want to say.
Speaker 1: Everyone does have a question about where it is, we
Speaker 1: need to what it is. My simple response is it
Speaker 1: is not rocket science, y'all. There is no We don't
Speaker 1: have to conclude some chemistry formula that we don't remember
Speaker 1: since high school.
Speaker 8: It is nothing like that.
Speaker 1: It is you feel this in the heart and the
Speaker 1: nerve and in the sinew that something ain't right, and
Speaker 1: you take that righteous indignation and you spread it to
Speaker 1: your family, friends and neighbors. And then while y'all sitting
Speaker 1: there chatting about how unbelievable. The moment is you start
Speaker 1: putting out ideas around how we stand in the gap,
Speaker 1: what we do, it is it is just that visceral
Speaker 1: that it happens. And yes, I'm with Angelin and Tip
Speaker 1: about a plan and hopefully we folks gonna get there.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime between time, everything that has been
Speaker 1: forecast is happening right right. You don't have to wait,
Speaker 1: it is happening right now. Get in touch with your heart, nerve,
Speaker 1: and your spine, your sinew, and get to work. I
Speaker 1: don't need you telling me. I know what I gotta
Speaker 1: do now. I see the threat. It is staring me
Speaker 1: in my face every day.
Speaker 4: Andrew, can you answer that though? What are you like
Speaker 4: for some people who literally do Congress members? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was Locally, we'll publish the list of the seats
Speaker 1: that are targeted seats, and if you live in those areas,
Speaker 1: you start making noise in those areas.
Speaker 8: And it don't take much.
Speaker 1: If you went to a congress person's office and you
Speaker 1: bought fifteen of your friends, I guarantee you that's fifteen
Speaker 1: more people than they've seen all year.
Speaker 8: At that office.
Speaker 1: It is just as simple as going to have been
Speaker 1: saying in the grocery store, because sometimes it gets this way.
Speaker 1: You see, your politician. People never hesitated when I was
Speaker 1: mayor may. I love your managor Da da dad, but
Speaker 1: you need to get them street lights on earlier on block.
Speaker 1: Bloh blah blah blah blah. They let their demands be known,
Speaker 1: and they didn't make apology for making those demands be known.
Speaker 1: You do the very same thing here. And I know
Speaker 1: it will be exhausting to have to call your Republican
Speaker 1: members of Congress because you live.
Speaker 8: In a red state or in a red district.
Speaker 1: But you call them anyway. Why Because they are no
Speaker 1: longer candidates for office. They are now the congress member
Speaker 1: for all of us, and all our tax dollars are
Speaker 1: being aggregated to pay for this here system. So so
Speaker 1: you're accountable to me, So Angela's That's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: around them. It is touchable, it's tangible, it's feelable, and
Speaker 1: you don't need a rocket scientist to solve this problem.
Speaker 8: We are the solve.
Speaker 6: And they are the minority. Correct me if I'm wrong, Andrew,
Speaker 6: they are the minority. Like when you in population. That's
Speaker 6: what I mean, because people get caught up and like,
Speaker 6: oh it's split, you know, like, oh, it's so close
Speaker 6: in the Senate because it's you know, they got this
Speaker 6: much of a majority. But no, right, when you zoom
Speaker 6: out across the country, MAGA Republicans Conservatives, they are the
Speaker 6: minority in this country. A majority of people support most
Speaker 6: of the Democratic policies. The challenge is, this is how
Speaker 6: we got confused, and Angela corrected, that's what the popular
Speaker 6: vote last time because it was such a narrow margin
Speaker 6: and the voting population was so small, So people think
Speaker 6: there are these two equal forces when they are not
Speaker 6: this when it was the count. Right, But there is
Speaker 6: this small amount of people with power over this amount
Speaker 6: of people, and we have to make people real happen, right, right.
Speaker 2: That's the same way slavery was. There were more folks
Speaker 2: enslave than there were slave holders. And I think that
Speaker 2: we have to remember that we are the people. We
Speaker 2: the people have power in our hands. And to that point,
Speaker 2: we have Robert, who's a regular who has sent in
Speaker 2: his own CTA and he's talking about what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Let's roll that.
Speaker 16: Hey, this is Robert from les in South Carolina. Welcome home, y'all,
Speaker 16: call your congressional members. Make your voice heard, make the
Speaker 16: issues heard. I don't care if you've got a Democrat Republican.
Speaker 16: I got all Republicans. I'm giving him hell right now.
Speaker 16: Call them most have ever called in the last seven
Speaker 16: or eight days. Call your congressional members. They need to
Speaker 16: know you exist. They need to know these issues are important.
Speaker 16: They need to feel the pressure.
Speaker 8: Let's go. Welcome home.
Speaker 6: That's right, Welcome home, Robert. I wonder if what has
Speaker 6: a dog? He looked like he has a dog.
Speaker 4: It sounds like, but you know the the what.
Speaker 2: I just gonna tell you one thing, Andrew, because Andrew
Speaker 2: is our resident Rainbow Rainbow coalition builder. I wanted to
Speaker 2: play Robert because I think it's important we put people
Speaker 2: in boxes based on where they are geographically. This is
Speaker 2: Robert from South Carolina, y'all. Robert is about that life.
Speaker 2: He's always, you know, reaching out to the show and
Speaker 2: letting us know when he likes something, when he doesn't
Speaker 2: what he's doing. I think it's so important to understand
Speaker 2: that one person can make a huge difference. And that's
Speaker 2: what all we're saying. Do not forfeit your power in
Speaker 2: this moment. Do not forfeit the fight. You might not
Speaker 2: want to call it resistance anymore than I do. I
Speaker 2: get it, But we have so much to do in
Speaker 2: so little time. Andrew's right, we do need to figure
Speaker 2: out what our demands are in a line quickly, but
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of time. As time goes on,
Speaker 2: the more tools that we continue to lose.
Speaker 8: That's sir, Oh, that's it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 8: I love Robert's comment in this since Angela and Tiff.
Speaker 1: That he has figured out the big secret that politicians
Speaker 1: don't want you to know, and that is simply that
Speaker 1: it don't take a lot of people to move them.
Speaker 1: And when they don't hear from us, they think that
Speaker 1: we're okay with what they're doing. They take silence as
Speaker 1: complicity and in many cases approval for what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And if you know you not approving, let them know
Speaker 1: you're not. And I promise you they are soft in
Speaker 1: the sense that they don't like to be unpopular. They
Speaker 1: don't like to be on the opposite side of the
Speaker 1: people who put them in office because them same people
Speaker 1: got the they empowered to take them out of office.
Speaker 8: That's what you have, that's what you should stand on.
Speaker 8: I put you here.
Speaker 1: I ain't vote for you, but you got here, well
Speaker 1: we sure as hell going organize and take you out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, thank you again, Robert. Don't go anywhere though,
Speaker 6: because we'll be right back on the other side of
Speaker 6: the break.
Speaker 10: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2: You know what we should do the next couple of shows,
Speaker 2: Maybe we can eat semi relate a call with a
Speaker 2: member of Congress and like, what what we do?
Speaker 4: What we would say.
Speaker 2: My person that I would want to call is Kirsten
Speaker 2: Cinema because I just don't understand what's happening. Why she's
Speaker 2: whipping votes for Tulca Gabbert. That's the story for another day.
Speaker 2: But I think it's really important for people to see
Speaker 2: it's really not that hard.
Speaker 6: They have to simulate. I think we should do it
Speaker 6: in real time. Uh D.
Speaker 4: But that's what I meant, like actually, not a role play,
Speaker 4: but I actually called OK.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, sorry, a one party territory
Speaker 6: so we can record.
Speaker 8: Except they're responsible to all of us.
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean the law, but I mean no, no,
Speaker 6: I mean the law where you can't there's a two
Speaker 6: party state or a one party state and then two parties.
Speaker 2: But that's to record the call. We wouldn't be I
Speaker 2: guess we are technical, so I'll tell them. I'll be
Speaker 2: like I'm calling from.
Speaker 4: Native lamp pis exactly, but my listeners can hear you.
Speaker 6: But I believe d C is one one party. Only
Speaker 6: one party has to know a call is being recorded.
Speaker 6: In some states is both parties have to know. So anyway,
Speaker 6: what we were recording in DC when we do yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: but I really like that idea to call members. I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna say who, but somebody daddy be calling members.
Speaker 2: Eddie Rye Junior all day, ain't no secret. Everybody on
Speaker 2: PAPA right probably on the phone with a member right now.
Speaker 4: He has a listenership. Sorry, I'm so on in tangent,
Speaker 4: but I got to tell you all this.
Speaker 2: So there's a reparations bill that's up in the Washington
Speaker 2: State legislature. When I tell you, Eddie ride Junior is
Speaker 2: raising holy hell about this book bill. He not even
Speaker 2: letting this. This man is telling him he wants to
Speaker 2: make sure the build on die. Eddie Ryde is like,
Speaker 2: let me tell you why you're wrong. This bill is
Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives is here's here He's like,
Speaker 2: you're gonna pass this bill, and I'm like, Dadd's gonna
Speaker 2: take a legislator legislature.
Speaker 4: But we're gonna talk to Papa Ride about strategy after this.
Speaker 2: Right now, his role is agitation, Mine might be advocacy.
Speaker 4: We all have a role to play.
Speaker 2: Let the agitators agitate, let the advocates advocate, and let
Speaker 2: the legislators legislate.
Speaker 4: And I don't got knowing more Reverend Jackson ryme but them.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna go to this thank you, very special tribute.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Reverend Jackson. We love you.
Speaker 2: Let's go to this very special tribute. When this podcast airs,
Speaker 2: it will be a special day. And so here we are.
Speaker 4: We have something to share with youll stame recording, h
Speaker 4: I hope.
Speaker 8: So anyway, what they want me.
Speaker 1: To say here, oh tiff Man, happy birthday, they are
Speaker 1: this is crazy.
Speaker 8: Happy birthday friend. Listen.
Speaker 1: They want me to say here, Oh you is kind,
Speaker 1: you are smart, you is important. That's a good message,
Speaker 1: but it's Tiffany. I can make my own message.
Speaker 8: What's up, big beautiful friend of mine.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to wish you another happy three sixty
Speaker 1: five and to say that this last year was made
Speaker 1: all the more rich for me because of the time
Speaker 1: we had deepening into our friendship. You are brilliant, you
Speaker 1: are hilarious, you are direct, you crazy as hell, and
Speaker 1: you'll get a brother in a fight in a minute
Speaker 1: just saying do better. Happy birthday, girl.
Speaker 2: I stand before this thing to show you the type
Speaker 2: of queen you are.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, says, I love you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing time, space, your brilliant your beauty,
Speaker 2: your encouragement with the world.
Speaker 4: I pray that this year, you know.
Speaker 2: It, pulls off a miracle for you, because right now,
Speaker 2: the way this thing is set up, America is the ghetto,
Speaker 2: but you deserve so much more. So let's pray for
Speaker 2: divine favor and that you get all the things that
Speaker 2: you ask and hope for because you are worthy, My sister.
Speaker 17: I love you, Bee Birthday, Birthday, Happy birthday, tiff. I
Speaker 17: just want you to know, sister, how much I love you,
Speaker 17: how much I adore you, that I am absolutely clear
Speaker 17: that in a moment like this, we need truth speakers
Speaker 17: like you. I cannot wait until this new book comes out.
Speaker 17: I cannot wait to see all the wonderful, wonderful, powerful
Speaker 17: things that I know you will do that you are doing,
Speaker 17: but most importantly, just thank you for being you. You
Speaker 17: have been such a blessing in my life. Your spirit,
Speaker 17: your courage, your truthfulness, your jokes, like your time. Just
Speaker 17: spending time with you has been one of the greatest,
Speaker 17: greatest blessings in my life. So I just want to say,
Speaker 17: happy birthday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, happy birthdays, happy LB Right when we sound like
Speaker 6: happy birthday, Tiffany, you are creating your own way, which
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 4: You've always done, so.
Speaker 6: I salute you the cocktail, Happy birthday.
Speaker 5: Enjoy Hey, Tiffany cross.
Speaker 8: Dime piece.
Speaker 5: As we all know, I just wanted to push you
Speaker 5: a happy happy birthday. You are the sweetheart of the machetes,
Speaker 5: always making sure that you're taking care of everybody else
Speaker 5: and hoping that this birthday you take care of you
Speaker 5: because you deserve all the good things. Love you so much,
Speaker 5: baby says, And anybody asked me, yes, we are related,
Speaker 5: love you girl.
Speaker 19: Oh my Tiffy, and I wanted to wish you a
Speaker 19: happy birthday.
Speaker 20: Well, he would actually like to say, come give me
Speaker 20: a belly rub. That Happy birthday to the best dog
Speaker 20: Auntie and the guest sister machete that anybody can ask
Speaker 20: having a great birthday. Hopefully clearly he's he's given you
Speaker 20: his best, he's getting you all because.
Speaker 4: He's very excited for you on your special day. So hey,
Speaker 4: it was up, Tip.
Speaker 21: I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday, and
Speaker 21: I also wanted to thank you. You know, you're such
Speaker 21: a sports expert and you're such a gifted broadcaster. I
Speaker 21: just want to thank you for never fully taking the
Speaker 21: dive into sports broadcasting.
Speaker 8: Because I might be out of a dove.
Speaker 21: I mean, if you're kind of astute on point analysis,
Speaker 21: and with your breath of knowledge about sports, you really
Speaker 21: made sure that my career was able to stay on track.
Speaker 4: So thank you for never jumping into sports.
Speaker 7: Happy welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 4: Kid, Happy birthday.
Speaker 13: I just hope that this is the most abundant and
Speaker 13: beautiful year for you, because you absolutely deserve it. Your
Speaker 13: heart is massive, You are generous, you are thoughtful, you
Speaker 13: are brilliant, and you are always, always, always looking out
Speaker 13: for the people. So I hope that this is the
Speaker 13: year that all the people look out for you, That
Speaker 13: people watch out for you because the heights are going
Speaker 13: higher and higher, and then you have the happiest birthday.
Speaker 7: I love you.
Speaker 22: As happy birthday, sending you the warmest, biggest, bestest birthday
Speaker 22: wishes on another trip around the sun. My wish for
Speaker 22: you is that your voice becomes even stronger. My wish
Speaker 22: for you is that you attract all of the goodness
Speaker 22: in the world from top to bottom, left to right.
Speaker 22: My wish for you is that you finish your book
Speaker 22: and that we get the blessing of learning from one
Speaker 22: of the sharpest minds.
Speaker 5: In the game.
Speaker 22: And my other wish for you, Tiffany, is that you
Speaker 22: get loved on from near and far in all of
Speaker 22: the ways. And may it be equal to or bigger
Speaker 22: than all of the love that you put in the world.
Speaker 22: That's a lot of love, girl, that's a lot of love.
Speaker 22: I love you a lot. I'm wishing you the happiest birthday.
Speaker 22: And I know times are weird, but you are a
Speaker 22: bright light. Oh you are a bright light in the
Speaker 22: darkest of times. Love you, says.
Speaker 17: Beautiful, beautiful, Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday.
Speaker 4: I get ready to a show, but girl, I have
Speaker 4: to say something. My producer says, Happy birthday too, Happy Birthday.
Speaker 4: Have a great day and another wonderful year around.
Speaker 8: Them to come to New York act.
Speaker 23: What's up? How are you doing, tiff what's your favorite aquarian?
Speaker 23: Plus love wishing my other favorite quary in a happy birthday.
Speaker 23: Keep fighting a good fight, Glarily.
Speaker 9: Oh that's now we all know how I feel about
Speaker 9: p d A podcast The Splays of Affection. But I
Speaker 9: got an assignment from our chief of staff, and of
Speaker 9: course I'm going to hop on to say Happy birthday
Speaker 9: to you, Tiffany, my dear friend. You are a force
Speaker 9: of nature, someone we love, trust, listen to, and just
Speaker 9: value so deeply. I hope you have an amazing birthday
Speaker 9: and can't wait to celebrate with you in person.
Speaker 8: Happy birthday and you're wrapping the.
Speaker 24: Book in the bed, Tiffany, Happy birthday. Sorry just for
Speaker 24: the podcast. This is roy Wood or Machine, Tiffany Cross
Speaker 24: a very esteem and professional birthday, and I hope that's
Speaker 24: your birthday is as spectacular as you are and you
Speaker 24: get to drink a lot of wine and eat a lot.
Speaker 8: Of drugs I mean food.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday to our.
Speaker 8: Harmed beautiful friends.
Speaker 4: Words from the birthday Queen.
Speaker 6: I will tell y'all off off camera, what has been
Speaker 6: going on this week with that is the best birthday celebration.
Speaker 6: If if no nothing else happened, that is the best
Speaker 6: birthday celebration. I'm gonna watch that about twenty more times.
Speaker 6: Thank you guys for pulling that together. And I just
Speaker 6: feel so full and grateful. I'm grateful. I'm broadcasting a
Speaker 6: day from Roland Martin Studio. Yes, a Blackyard Network roller
Speaker 6: Martin Unfiltered. I'll be broadcasting here from now on. And
Speaker 6: it just I feel so grateful to be uh, to
Speaker 6: be able to have this platform, to share it with
Speaker 6: you guys, to share this space with you guys.
Speaker 18: Uh.
Speaker 6: And if I could do anything, if I had like
Speaker 6: one wish, it would be that we all the people
Speaker 6: in that video, all of the machetes, all of us
Speaker 6: would be together in person. I couldn't think of anything
Speaker 6: material that I'd want. I couldn't think of I was
Speaker 6: talking about this the other day. If I had all
Speaker 6: the money in the world, I don't know that it
Speaker 6: would solve any other problems I'm having right now, and
Speaker 6: maybe a few, but not not really. But it really
Speaker 6: the older I get. It's the intangible things. It's the
Speaker 6: it's the laughter, it's the jokes, it's the feel good
Speaker 6: moments and most of those have been shared with the
Speaker 6: folks you saw in that video with you guys, and
Speaker 6: so I'm just so abundantly grateful and this year and
Speaker 6: there was a lot of inside messages from the Machete,
Speaker 6: So Alicia, I heard you, I hear everything you're saying
Speaker 6: and every everybody else. I'm just so grateful and my
Speaker 6: cup run is over. So what a blessing. So thank
Speaker 6: you guys, so so fun.
Speaker 8: Happy birthday, Yeah, birthday.
Speaker 2: Make sure y'all send all the love to Tip today.
Speaker 2: It is her birthday, the day our podcast drops. And
Speaker 2: she's a Black History Month queen, so you can tell
Speaker 2: her Happy Black History Month too. If you don't, make
Speaker 2: sure you also follow her other podcast, which is called
Speaker 2: Across Generations. There are six hundred and thirty five days
Speaker 2: until the midterm elections, and most importantly, it's Tiffany's birthday.
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